Cucu sitting there looking all pretty like
#road to 200k messages
broken patio
cerulean cape
Saliba should have more than gab and he had 10 only lol
latent depot
My defence is 6/6/6/5.5/4
cerulean cape
Robinson had 22 at fb
latent depot
Gabriel underperformed xG and was still the best ppm, so at least he has that. Cbit might just be +0.3ppm for him then
broken patio
Ah, so
Isak + 6.5m mid + colwill
Vs
Watkins + Rogers + cucurella
I think the Watkins version wins
pulsar chasm
if gusto plays it is usually him that goes into the front 5
latent depot
if gusto plays it is usually him that goes into the front 5
Either way Cucu has solid underlying stats 0.15xGI90 (0.1xG90), 5 goals last season
quick dawn
id rather have bruno than watkins maybe
cerulean cape
Ah, so
Isak + 6.5m mid + colwill
Vs
Watkins + Rogers + cucurella
2 for sure
broken patio
Really?
cerulean cape
Especially start of season
broken patio
Yeah villas fix are tasty af
quick dawn
watkins is streaky
latent depot
Villa fix are mid, what are you seeing?
pulsar chasm
id rather have bruno than watkins maybe
united start tough and bruno could play deeper
cerulean cape
Ticker have them top in first 6
broken patio
Noones fix look amazing tbh, villas just aren't bad
There aren't many easy games now apart from the bottom 3
cerulean cape
No top 6
pulsar chasm
forest really nice first 6 on the whole
broken patio
Forests look good yeah, I do like the look of their defenders still ngl
Before Europa and small squad fatigue set in
Milenkovic calling for me
quick dawn
i dont understand getting any 5.5 defender over a 6
latent depot
Forest and Chelsea
silent jasper
Forests look good yeah, I do like the look of their defenders still ngl
Sels set and forget keeper? 
cerulean cape
i dont understand getting any 5.5 defender over a 6
With cbit 5.5m outscored the 6m last season
broken patio
Pickford set and forget keeper ngl
pale tiger
Aina and neco Williams 5.0
cedar hull
Gab and cucu imo
silent jasper
Pickford set and forget keeper ngl
oh yeah fr
broken patio
Aina and neco Williams 5.0
Nowhere near Murillo and milenkovic once you apply CBIT points though
pulsar chasm
neco williams averaged over 10 a game i saw somewhere
broken patio
They were the 2 top scoring Defs last season and aina wasn't even in the top 10
latent depot
What was Milenkovic cbit
cedar hull
neco williams averaged over 10 a game i saw somewhere
Yeah because he doesn't play 90
broken patio
38 wtf
cerulean cape
19 out of 36 games
latent depot
Ok Milenkovic is s-tier
cerulean cape
Tark was 22 out of 33
cedar hull
Clearances make the majority of cbit tbh, tackles, interceptions etc are the minor amount
cerulean cape
Ive been on the cbit kings every draft
cedar hull
People still don't realise this is big at the back season
cerulean cape
Extra 4 points every 4 games tyvm
pulsar chasm
Yeah because he doesn't play 90
he does mostly no?
moreno back so maybe not now idk
broken patio
People still don't realise this is big at the back season
It might be
pulsar chasm
this was the graphic i saw
cerulean cape
When cc crunch numbers
broken patio
Milenkovic to start the season makes a lot of sense
cedar hull
Fwds all time low, defenders all time high with lowest price ceiling ever
cerulean cape
Big atb will be template
latent depot
Ok has anyone done the maths for cbit per game
cedar hull
Big atb will be template
They never go big at the back because there's no content there unlike high scoring fwds and spicy mids
cerulean cape
Ok has anyone done the maths for cbit per game
Not yet
broken patio
People still don't realise this is big at the back season
Thing is there's cheap defenders I want too:
Van de ven, DeCuyper, Konsa
latent depot
Beef ready to be hurt again by another Brighton FB
broken patio
100%
cedar hull
Thing is there's cheap defenders I want too:
Van de ven, DeCuyper, Konsa
3 6/5.5s and a 4.5 rotation
trail forum
premium defenders look pretty good but the thing is thats also the only position with decent cheap options
trail forum
if there was a good cheap mid or striker then id be all for big at the back
quick dawn
my structure looks alright doesnt it
trail forum
but you cant really ignore the only place to save money
broken patio
my structure looks alright doesnt it
Post?
cedar hull
44 effing 2
broken patio
Where do I find 1m here? I guess it's Watkins down to Pedro or whoever
cedar hull
Watkins shouldn't be 9m without pens
cerulean cape
433 for me
broken patio
Watkins shouldn't be 9m without pens
Maybe
pulsar chasm
Where do I find 1m here? I guess it's Watkins down to Pedro or whoever
i'd have said wirtz
quick dawn
yeah or a cheaper mid than wirtz
cedar hull
I seem to be the only one on mateta train
broken patio
Ah Bowen is exactly 1m cheaper, calm
broken patio
I seem to be the only one on mateta train
Tough first 2 (maybe 3) fix put me off
cerulean cape
I seem to be the only one on mateta train
Memory still fresh
broken patio
But I don't hate it
quick dawn
the 7.5s all seem close
cerulean cape
Bb1 still calling tho, let's see
broken patio
Wissa with pens could be kinda fun
cedar hull
Who's on pens for palace, can't remember out of eze mateta
broken patio
Brentford seem to get a lot of pens too
cerulean cape
Who's on pens for palace, can't remember out of eze mateta
Eze
cedar hull
Wissa with pens could be kinda fun
I like him but we don't know how the new manager sets up
trail forum
drafts gonna go crazy when gordon scores a brace in pre-season
cerulean cape
Sorry mateta was on pens pre gw30 then some voodoo magic shit meant eze took pens gw31 onwards
cedar hull
Considered Gordon but just steering clear of Newcastle for now til we get transfer clarity
cerulean cape
Also bad fixtures
latent depot
What's Caicedo's cbit
cedar hull
Sorry mateta was on pens pre gw30 then some voodoo magic shit meant eze took pen...
Market value enhancing
broken patio
I like him but we don't know how the new manager sets up
Yeah that's the thing
What do we think of evanilson?
cerulean cape
What's Caicedo's cbit
Like 40 or 42
pulsar chasm
Yeah that's the thing
What do we think of evanilson?
you didn't ask me but like him
cedar hull
Yeah that's the thing
What do we think of evanilson?
Good for price, that's about it though, pen uncertainty
Kroupi might steal minutes too
LW/9
latent depot
Ok so Caicedo is effectively 3.7ppm, that's still lower than Enzo's 3.8 even without cbit
quick dawn
Yeah wissa is good if he stays
broken patio
If I was on 352 kroupi would my 8th attacker 100%
quick dawn
Who
cedar hull
If I was on 352 kroupi would my 8th attacker 100%
I went 352/442 just for kroupi haha
broken patio
4.5m Bournemouth fwd, 22 gosls last season
cerulean cape
Ok so Caicedo is effectively 3.7ppm, that's still lower than Enzo's 3.8 even wit...
Enzo gets tackle bps boost, i think he had net 7 tackles last year
So gains like 2bps per match
cedar hull
It got changed from net to won now too right
latent depot
So Enzo at 4.6ish ppm that's very solid for 6.5 mid
quick dawn
Am I the only person on strand larsen
cedar hull
Need someone that isn't me to do these calculations
pale tiger
Am I the only person on strand larsen
I am
cerulean cape
So Enzo at 4.6ish ppm that's very solid for 6.5 mid
I considered Enzo for bb1 team in the 6.5m slot
latent depot
With the fixtures I think Enzo is the best GW1 6.5
broken patio
What are we all saying on saka?
cerulean cape
With the fixtures I think Enzo is the best GW1 6.5
Ahead of kudus also?
cedar hull
Kudus is just a placeholder for me rn
quick dawn
I like saka over palmer
latent depot
Don't hate having both because it's basically Saka over Isak
cedar hull
He will be good if nailed but minutes risk there
broken patio
Don't hate having both because it's basically Saka over Isak
Yeah
latent depot
Ahead of kudus also?
Too many unknowns
broken patio
I don't like Kudus
Screams trap
Looks amazing irl but never gets that many goal involvements
New manager, dunno how they set up
cedar hull
broken patio
Threat of mins from BJ
cedar hull
Looks amazing irl but never gets that many goal involvements
I've never owned him and didn't like his west ham hype, but better players will likely make him better, think he's fine that's all
latent depot
I'm looking at a 542 squad with the 4th midfielder rotating fixtures with a defender
No defender cheaper than 5.5
Just need a 4.5 mid to emerge for 2nd on the bench
cedar hull
It's not like you mcgrr to do something outside of the box
latent depot
Ignore me, I'm washed
cedar hull
Nah full respect
My problem with the 5.5 Def's is I think Everton and forest regress a fair bit
broken patio
I'm coming around to Bowen
Good gw1 fix and him being .5 more than all the 7.5m picks means you can swap to any of them even if they rise a bit
So you just go to whoever of wissa, Pedro, solanke, mateta, wood etc looks good
latent depot
Weird goal projections tbh. Liverpool's xG last season was so far ahead of the rest, it was embarrassing
cedar hull
Yeah James being cheaper that cucu was interesting
cerulean cape
Reece James
broken patio
I found the best 5.5m def
latent depot
James tucks into the midfield 2 in the 3-2 build up, Cucu is part of the front 5 playing essentially as a left 8
wanton whale
🔥
lone glade
wtf
pale tiger
quick dawn
what do we think about wirtz vs marmousb
broken patio
How do you even set your badge
broken patio
what do we think about wirtz vs marmousb
Boring answer but just from an eo pov it makes so much sense to start with wirtz and not overthink it, can always move to Marmoush
broken patio
Eo though
pale tiger
i had to sign up an adobe account to create team badge
wanton whale
I’ve sacrificed wirtz for Saka rn
trail forum
if marmoush starts in preseason hes a lock in my team ahead of wirtz
wanton whale
Feel like he’s a player I could always bring in
trail forum
a pool cam never really been viable in fpl, cant really see that changing now
broken patio
Did not expect AWB to be the 4th most owned defender rn lol
trail forum
there just isnt enough to go around
lone glade
Did not expect AWB to be the 4th most owned defender rn lol
sunderland gw1 is the biggest reason
broken patio
I'm honestly just gonna follow the crowd on wirtz and not overthink it
What's the worst that could happen
trail forum
since when were you a boring fpl manager 
broken patio
Hey I've got 2 Brighton players okay :(
broken patio
That's the ones
broken patio
It will be different this time
trail forum
broken patio
west marsh
Did not expect AWB to be the 4th most owned defender rn lol
Hope they don’t discover Senesi too
trail forum
nobody is buying a bou defender dw
latent depot
Kadioglu was briefly hyped as potentially OOP
broken patio
Kadioglu actually would've been good if he didn't get injured for the whole season
He started playing every week and then bam he died
latent depot
Something in the water in Brighton
broken patio
Unfair to group him in with barco and such
broken patio
Something in the water in Brighton
We're just allergic to having a fullback who's clearly 1st choice and plays every week
We haven't had a right back for like 6 years
Just constantly playing people reverse Oop at right back
Looks like it will be the same this season too
quick dawn
bit more template
cerulean cape
wanton whale
ew
wanton whale
thats a good option then isnt it
nah
cedar hull
Looks good, can always do Virgil to 5.5, Rogers down, kroupi to 7.5
If you wanted another 7.5 fwd that is
latent depot
where is vamp spreadsheet @slim bane
quick dawn
ill probably stick with rogers
trail forum
this is my draft anyway dunno about wood or solanke or pedro
less time spent aligning the jersey colours and more time considering enzo as an option would be good
wanton whale
this is my draft anyway dunno about wood or solanke or pedro
its decent, I usually like starting the season with a bigger spread of teams personally but not a bad thing
latent depot
Gabriel only 6.7 defensive contributions per 90
random twitter
doubt that's the highest contributors, but a random bunch of names
wanton whale
Yeah stronger teams won’t benefit nearly as much
cerulean cape
Nice Ive owned the top 3 since the game launched
latent depot
I was waiting for data
so those 3 prob beat out all of the 6.0s
but 0.4+ for the 6.0s is almost unattainable in other positions
big at the back is very back
cedar hull
Did you do cucu as well?
latent depot
didn't find data for him
cedar hull
What data do you need?
latent depot
errr, I think the data is behind the scout paywall
@cerulean cape needs to steal it
cedar hull
Can you not get it from fbref
latent depot
I'm not scraping data
wanton whale
Nice Ive owned the top 3 since the game launched
You owning all three of those?
cerulean cape
In every draft
wanton whale
Sound strategy tbh
cedar hull
Is cbit tackles won, clearances , interceptions and blocks right
latent depot
VVD at 11/37 games getting DC points is a useful yardstick. he has 8.41 DC/90, so Porro at 7.94 and Cucu at 7.2 don't look great. Gabriel at 6.7 
cerulean cape
Btw my bb1 idea became much simpler. If salah hauls and bruno blanks gw1 which is highly realistic then my bb is redundant
That's not even assuming my bb spurs players aren't sht
prime plinth
Btw my bb1 idea became much simpler. If salah hauls and bruno blanks gw1 which i...
My hope is to go bb1 no salah. Win the captaincy swings in 2 and 3 with a stronger team in theory till wc4
Gyokeres likely to come in. Not sure if Saka is worth it or not. Will he be the Son like exception after losing pens presumably
latent depot
think I'm dropping Palmer
prime plinth
Bb1 will have murrilo and tark for me if wc4
Only thing is if Gab scores a goal it could outweigh what tark and murrilo offer early. They seem pretty safe to get a cs and added points within those 3 gws
Won't have Hudson odoi. Kudus maybe. Bowen probably not given a 3 gw plan. Something like gyokeres into isak gw3
Probably find a way to take out udogie and colwill. Wirtz not a lock. Welbeck can go if it makes sense.
cerulean cape
My bb and non bb teams are very similar
I use the 5.5m from salah to bruno to have a bench essentially
obtuse shoal
Wait jazzy do you have Bruno? Or am I reading it wrong?
obtuse shoal
Don’t really see why you’d ever get Bruno at this price.
cerulean cape
3 game spell, lack of mids if bb
Could get saka
For 1m more
But would need a 5.5m mid to come up
Early days
latent depot
Zubimendi has a lot of cbits in La Liga 👀
cerulean cape
Zubimendi has a lot of cbits in La Liga 👀
So does stach for leeds
In bundesliga
Shame he'll be 5.0m
I miss 4.5m andreas
cedar hull
4.5 mids this year seems the worst they've been, need one to breakout
quick dawn
yes
cedar hull
People got mad at me for saying gyokeres 8-8.5 saying he will be 10+
latent depot
yeah prob 8.5
cerulean cape
9m
cedar hull
8.5-9 is what he should be, no idea why hat FPL will do
cerulean cape
8.5m or 9m fair
latent depot
wirtz at 8.5 makes me think he'll be priced the same
cerulean cape
Havertz exists and probably starts gw1 at fwd
latent depot
also there's a gap at 8.5
cerulean cape
they were bad last year tho, was rogers who saved up
At least they played
Winks started like first 20 games
latent depot
Devenny will get minutes off the bench
which is ok for 2nd/3rd bench along with Kroupi
you just have to spend a bit on 1st bench
5.0s are dead tho
trail forum
why do they always make the prices and essentially force us to have non-starting attackers on the bench
do they just expect an option to appear
cedar hull
5.0s are dead tho
Le fee for Sunderland at mid is good
latent depot
every season is intended to start like this. players are priced on prior season, so obv the desirable ones are too expensive
enablers will emerge tho
latent depot
great 4.5s are the exceptions tbh, we got spoilt on a couple of consecutive seasons
there was that 4.5 Norwich winger, I forget
trail forum
cantwell ?
cedar hull
He had potential then just fell off the map
latent depot
yeah, bro kept on getting subbed at 70 for 3 points
trail forum
yeah was such a letdown
cedar hull
Playing 2 fwds just for kroupi
latent depot
I remember Cantwell getting 10 points once when I started him vs another relegation team
I think I've got a structure that I'm happy with
pulsar chasm
Playing 2 fwds just for kroupi
is he supposed to get decent minutes
latent depot
waiting to pick 7.5/7.5 forwards and a 5.5 mid
cedar hull
is he supposed to get decent minutes
Don't actually know ,but wonderkid who got 22 goals in ligue 1 last season, was bought from lorient ? I think then loaned back
latent depot
this part of the squad I'm happy with
pulsar chasm
yeah i did see he had a good year last year
realistically he gets cameos but better than the midfielders
cedar hull
this part of the squad I'm happy with
Virgil over cucu, true cbit merchant
trail forum
I remember Cantwell getting 10 points once when I started him vs another relegat...
spot the dodgy brighton fullback
cedar hull
So you're gonna average a CS extra every week through cbit
latent depot
Virgil over cucu, true cbit merchant
VVD underperformed xG
cedar hull
realistically he gets cameos but better than the midfielders
A 4.5 fwd getting minutes is rare enough tbh
Gakpo? How much is he
pulsar chasm
7.5 i think
latent depot
yeah, Gakpo's underlying stats at LW are uncannily similar to Diaz
if Diaz leaves, that's his spot
also might sometimes be OOP
pulsar chasm
if Diaz leaves, that's his spot
they’ll probably sign someone
pulsar chasm
but for first few weeks sure
cedar hull
I'm fine with the pick, that bracket in midfield is terrible anyway
cedar hull
Would you consider gyokeres out of interest
latent depot
too much value in defence to be faffing about with mid priced attackers
cedar hull
I'm steering clear til we know more
pulsar chasm
there’s so many good defenders to me
they’ll all end up being shit most likely but
latent depot
Would you consider gyokeres out of interest
yes, I've got 7.5/7.5/5.5 to fill FOR/FOR/MID so can afford him at 8.5, but I'm not going there if he's not guaranteed to start GW1
latent depot
I'm fine with the pick, that bracket in midfield is terrible anyway
reminder of the gap between Liverpool's attack and everyone else 
cedar hull
latent depot
an attack rating 25% better than 2nd place City is mental
cedar hull
city winning 1 in 13 not doing them any favours for their stats
pool just had a clear run, insane work by slot tbf
i think there will be a definite consideration for double pool fullbacks at somepoint this season
latent depot
Angeball disappointingly low for what it was supposed to be
cedar hull
Angeball disappointingly low for what it was supposed to be
injuries
quick dawn
what if the forest defenders are just shit
cedar hull
slot has always preferred overlapping to inverted fullbacks from his time at feyenoord
latent depot
overlapping FBs just means cross and inSalah
latent depot
I think I'm prob going Elliot Anderson once MGW is confirmed gone
latent depot
holy shit Gabriel, get out of my team
quick dawn
idk i think the 6s are safer than the 5.5s
isnt it just based on forest still keeping lots of clean sheets
cedar hull
not at all
CS are irrelevant to cbit
murillo and milenkovic could not clean and still get 4 points each
even with potential for bps in like a 1-1 draw now due to tackles
quick dawn
yes but thats the reason they had decent points returns last season
latent depot
why are RAN and Kerkez there? can't read anything into that data
ok added a couple of names, don't think anyone else is relevant
Gvardiol back on the menu is funny
didn't expect Gabriel to be so bad, but Gvardiol outperformed xG while Gabriel underperformed
Lacroix is interesting because he has some goal threat
acoustic edge
thoughts on 7.0 midfielders? semenyo p good on cbirt afaik
acoustic edge
equivalent to 7.5 fwd tho
latent depot
also dead price point 
acoustic edge
eg
acoustic edge
also dead price point <:sobbusiness:972938976367366214>
ðŸ˜5atb cba
latent depot
triple forest D is wild
acoustic edge
why not tho
elevenify put out data for first 6 and nfo top 5
cbs op for cbit and sels best 5.0
latent depot
double is already hugely +EV, triple is just begging for variance
acoustic edge
picks in isolation 😔
latent depot
I mean that's how you get rank 1 I guess
acoustic edge
this part of the squad I'm happy with
do u have isak solanke here?
cedar hull
do u have isak solanke here?
#1271658771730534476 message
wanton whale
nfo top 4 yk
accurate if wissa leaves
acoustic edge
jsl looks ropey
latent depot
Spurs/Esteve rotation
cedar hull
Just spent some time on a premier league dataset analyzing cbit to realise the data wasnt completely updated 
just found this btw
latent depot
Burnley 5.6 expected goals in 6 PL games is wild
they scored only 69 in 46 championship games
cedar hull
latent depot
top right Virgil?
cedar hull
Fully recommend the fpl restyle extension btw
west marsh
What’s the best 5.0?
cedar hull
fwd? def? mid?
west marsh
Midfielder
cedar hull
le fee ig, not much info
pale tiger
👀
cedar hull
foderingham
latent depot
they should prob buy another
latent depot
they don't have a great track record for buying tbf
if we're generous, Bowen would have got 175ish points as a forward
Ok done tinkering for day 2, I guess this is v2
cedar hull
@latent depot mids
latent depot
wish Christie was a starter
wanton whale
CBIT bonus is overrated for mids
cedar hull
oh for sure
latent depot
not overrated for 5-5.5 mids
wanton whale
hopefully some budget gems come out during preseaon
wanton whale
is it still 2 points for mids
yeah
and you need 12 DC
wait its recoveries only for mids?
wanton whale
damsgaard looks interesting tho
hell nah
at 6m you may as well strecth the extra 0.5
acoustic edge
to who
wanton whale
ndiaye, mitoma, enzo, rice, kudus
no clue how well brentford do with no thomas frank, no mbuemo and possibly no wissa
latent depot
oh wait, Christie was a starter, he ended the season with a groin injury
wanton whale
Igor thiago if wissa leaves 👀
cedar hull
do u have semenyo
nah
thiago plays with or without wissa tbh
wissa thiago schade most likely
wanton whale
speaking of Igors, I would like to see Igor jesus in preseason
wanton whale
wissa thiago schade most likely
true
pulsar chasm
oh wait, Christie was a starter, he ended the season with a groin injury
yeah christie is first choice i’m pretty sure
latent depot
Christie is clear then for 5.0 MID
cedar hull
are you rotating your 5.0 mid
latent depot
no
bro will be perma first bench
honest 4 pointer off the bench
actually, might play him GW4 cos Forest are away to Arsenal
and GW5 with Tark at Liverpool 
cedar hull
have you looked at le fee
latent depot
no idea who that even is
cedar hull
12.51 cbit average, on set pieces
latent depot
for the worst team in the league tho?
pulsar chasm
burnley are worse
latent depot
Christie has some attacking threat and occasionally plays AM
also 12.5 cbit average is not really reliable enough for the points
pulsar chasm
christie isn't a 90 min lock though
cedar hull
yeah i thought itd be higher tbh
slim bane
where is vamp spreadsheet <@231018137699483648>
No vamp this year I’m afraid
Just started my new job and im basically busy 7am to 9pm everyday lol
Althooooo I do need some metric to choose my players
I’ll see if I have the time
The UI is so shit tho
cedar hull
what do you need for vamp, i can help if need be
slim bane
what do you need for vamp, i can help if need be
I literally haven’t started the spreadsheet so if you’re helping you’re basically doing the whole thing
anw just finished my second draft based on vibes and forcing salah
wanton whale
anw just finished my second draft based on vibes and forcing salah <:kekw:666253...
Bench from hell that ðŸ˜
Nice team tho
slim bane
to calculate vamp you need to collect
Points, Games Played, Cost, then the formula is (Points Per Game - 2) / Cost
Ideally your points can factor in the new defensive actions and position changes but I’ve no idea where to get that
To factor positon changes I basically just counted the number of CS points and goal points someone would lose
Or gain
slim bane
reminder of the gap between Liverpool's attack and everyone else <:zoop:60896593...
Does it change if we sign gyok and rodri comes back
slim bane
didn't expect Gabriel to be so bad, but Gvardiol outperformed xG while Gabriel u...
And cos saka was out so his source of attacking points dried up
cedar hull
wouldnt be crazy to say pools could increase too
prime plinth
Cold bench boost
prime plinth
BB yolo
not the same... similar idea though. I'd be locking myself into wc4
Probably drop someone in defense because they only need to play the bb week
Saka and gyokeres probably over Watkins gw1 though. That way I cover Leeds
carmine tree
already done porro to vdv for the 100% start and holding 1m in bank atm
prime plinth
Don't know enough about de cuyper yet
Idea is just to have an optimal captain gw2 and 3 still and just hope salah doesn't go crazy enough to outweigh the fixture value and increased team quality
cerulean cape
AWB got 9 cbit 9 times
oak furnace
welcome back lads
latent depot
Is Isak out and Wissa to Newcastle happening?
cedar hull
Isak is a grey area, pool got ekitike so it's looking less likely but it seems he wants the move
Newcastle want wissa, but Brentford don't wanna sell, player wants the move and I think he has 1 year left
35-40 bid might do it
broken patio
what if the forest defenders are just shit
That's my biggest worry
I would love a forest CB as they're insane for cbit and have great fix, surely they can't be as bad as the end of last season, right?....... Right?
cedar hull
They're a well coached team, even if they regress to the mean I think they're still good defensively
Not as many clean sheets, same cbit tho
broken patio
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Interesting that tarkowski isn't on this list
latent depot
Isak to Saudi would be wild
broken patio
Damn cucurella only got CBIT points in 3 games
I guess that's not really his role
Tough to say if he'll keep up his attacking returns or not though
cedar hull
He's good on tackles won bps I think
broken patio
Yeah
I kinda want Virgil, tarkowski, Murillo ngl
All 3 look imperious
But... I wanna play DeCuyper :((((((
cedar hull
broken patio
Fuck that
carmine arch
0.5 itb
cedar hull
Downgrade foster and adingra, welbeck to 7.5, aina to 5.5
Ndiaye to rogers
Wait Raya wtf
carmine arch
Cus I want double arsenal defence
carmine arch
Downgrade foster and adingra, welbeck to 7.5, aina to 5.5
Aina is for rotation with konsa
carmine arch
They have the best cs odds
carmine arch
Who would I even get for the extra mil
orchid plank
Only one viable game till gw6
carmine arch
Only one viable game till gw6
And they still have the best cs odds till then?
broken patio
I have 0 arsenal defence rn tbh
Not interested in them at all ngl
cedar hull
I'm sure you could work out a way to get an 8.5 over ndiaye, or just improve def
orchid plank
And they still have the best cs odds till then?
Fairs if you think Arsenal clean against Man Utd,Newcastle,City,Forest and Pool away
broken patio
With cbit added the other premium Defs outscore arsenal cbs by quite a bit
carmine arch
Fairs if you think Arsenal clean against Man Utd,Newcastle,City,Forest and Pool ...
The bookies do
cedar hull
Arsenal defend by system not players so they weak on cbit
broken patio
Id rather have Virgil, tarkowski, Murillo or cucu over an arsenal Def
broken patio
Your arsenal bias is showing
cedar hull
Essential? Nah
carmine arch
Gabriel is Gabriel mate
orchid plank
Wont be surprised if we concede to him from a set piece tbf
cedar hull
It's united lads
carmine arch
No starting 4.5 strikers right
cedar hull
Kroupi best shout
carmine arch
cedar hull
Adingra down, welbeck up
carmine arch
There is no 8.5 striker
cedar hull
Rogers to 8.5, or keep and get a 6 6 5.5 def
cedar hull
Double arsenal def
Pool are a better attack relative to other teams than arsenal defence is
cedar hull
carmine arch
I just can't make myself sell my guy gab
cedar hull
25% better than next best team
carmine arch
Yeah good point tbf
cedar hull
Or keep Rogers and go 6 6 5.5 Def no konsa
carmine arch
25% better than next best team
carmine arch
I'm gonna test a no saka draft (assuming he has no pens)
cedar hull
Can't escape welbeck
broken patio
Nope
carmine arch
I love welbeck
broken patio
I also can't escape decuyper
carmine arch
broken patio
Even though my brain is telling me that a 343 with Virgil Murillo tarkowski is the way
Maybe I just bin tarkowski and tell myself that Pickford is enough
cedar hull
We got no info rn, a lot will change
broken patio
And go Pickford Virgil Murillo and DeCuyper/konsa
cedar hull
Pickford too much imo
carmine arch
I think 1 arsenal defence is worth it
broken patio
Pickford too much imo
People wanna pay 5.5 for tark and Pickford outscored tark last season even if you add tarks CBIT points and keep Pickfords points as they were
Pickford got 158
You'd pay 5.5 for a Def with those points
cedar hull
He overperformed crazy though right
broken patio
It's what he does though
He's been doing it for years
Imo it's another case of, if he was 5.0 he'd be in everyone's team
cedar hull
Did he save 2 pens that year
Yeah it's a tricky price
Like I'm not saying he's bad
5.0 too cheap 5.5 little bit too much
orchid plank
I also can't escape decuyper
Give it till the week of deadline
latent depot
The thing that persuaded me on Pickford is that Everton started the season shite so his full season metrics are actually underselling his performance after Moyes
broken patio
Yeah
latent depot
Tark actually underperformed xG consecutive seasons, so if he actually hits some positive variance...
I'm pretty set on double Everton, double Forest CBs, Gabriel and VVD for my back 6
broken patio
I didn't expect you to be hot on Gabriel with CBIT stuff
latent depot
Bro scored 3 goals on over 4 xG in 28 games
broken patio
Valid
latent depot
Arsenal set piece coach OP
cedar hull
Oh I didn't realise he underperformed
latent depot
Yeah Gabriel's xG90 improved to 0.16 last season
Also I bet they get more clean sheets this year
VVD also underperformed xG
So I've got 3 cbit farmers and Gabriel/VVD from the 2 best defences who both underperformed xG
There's quite a big gap to 3rd best defence, I'll paste the table later. I've pasted it here before if you want to go looking for it
The table where I average xGA and actual GA for home and away
cedar hull
I do expect Chelsea's defence to improve this year but arsenal with zubimendi likely do as well
broken patio
Maybe it really is big at the back year
Especially with so many ~7mishh mids and forwards being unknown
cerulean cape
I'm not feeling gab
But vvd i can buy into
Elliot Anderson looks really good for 5.5m
Avgs 15 cbrit per 90
Took 48 corners
With mgw on the field
If mgw goes, Anderson pls
latent depot
Yes he does, but I'm going Christie/Baleba double up instead of 5.5/4.5
cerulean cape
Fairs
latent depot
That 3rd forest spot looks really valuable
Wood is still great even if you deduct 16 points for xG overperformance
latent depot
So no Anderson then
latent depot
If a 4.5 mid emerges then Anderson is back on my radar
But that means giving up Wood
cedar hull
Wood is still great even if you deduct 16 points for xG overperformance
Does this Include bonus gained from them
cerulean cape
I really like villa fixtures, some disagree. First 7 is great for attack
latent depot
Does this Include bonus gained from them
Well you can deduct 20 if you want? Either way he remains decent in VAPM
cedar hull
I was thinking more 25 to 30, he averages 9 pointers from overperformance
latent depot
That's a bit too pessimistic IMO cos he's always been a decent finisher
-20 and he's still 0.4 on VAPM
broken patio
Anderson looks great if they sell mgw yeah
cedar hull
He's an average finisher
89 goals 88.32 xg
He's a decent pick but I don't think there's too much between a few 7.5s right now
Can easily make the argument for best of them
latent depot
Point stands, -24 and he's still at 0.385 VAPM
The other 7.5s are bad until Wissa to Newcastle is confirmed
I guess Wood is worse without MGW and Elanga
broken patio
I guess Wood is worse without MGW and Elanga
Definitely
latent depot
But it's still Nunoball and he's the centrepiece
Anyway, if you make similar adjustments to Bowen you end up with 166ish points including position change at 0.36 VAPM
broken patio
Ops on solanke?@latent depot
latent depot
I dunno, he's a bad finisher, but really should have done more under Angeball
cedar hull
Need that toney treatment 
latent depot
I don't hate the pick but I've gone off Solanke
I basically only like Isak, Wissa at Newcastle, and Wood at this point
cerulean cape
Watkins in for me
latent depot
I think Christie almost matches Anderson's output
quick dawn
this is basically my team but the defence is different
broken patio
Anderson to 5.0, Pickford to 4.5 gets me solanke to Watkins I guess
latent depot
If Anderson moves to CAM, he's not farming cbit anymore
pale tiger
is tark back from injury
quick dawn
someone on reddit said maybe not
pale tiger
ffs
latent depot
Quite annoying that 3 of Baleba's 4 attacking returns came from his 8 games at CM
Takes half as many shots at DM, but small samples
carmine arch
lone glade
JSL pens holy cook
pale tiger
yes sir
cedar hull
Christie on corners @latent depot
latent depot
What's branthwaite's cbit
trail forum
see lets talk andys team
broken patio
Not as good as tarks
trail forum
hes basically going for pen takers
latent depot
But Tark might be dead
cerulean cape
Is he injured still
quick dawn
Solanke pens?
violet temple
are branth and tark the same price?
cerulean cape
Ye
violet temple
damn alr
broken patio
I think tark is fine? Idk
cerulean cape
hes basically going for pen takers
Tell me someone uses review without telling me
cedar hull
Analytics heavy on Anderson/cbit/solanke it seems
trail forum
seeing solnake in a lot of teams recently
cerulean cape
Solanke cos pens if son minutes reduced
broken patio
Yeah solanke feels like one of those comfort picks that you don't need to think about too much
cerulean cape
Ok new draft big atb
broken patio
Also his eo is gonna be big
zinc cave
cerulean cape
Collins had 159 last year either cbit
zinc cave
Ok new draft big atb
What’s this site
cerulean cape
I didnt see that
broken patio
The app is fucking ass
I search for a player and they don't come up
I sort by total points and it's just.... Wrong
cedar hull
Pinnock beats Collins in cbit iirc
broken patio
Sorted by total points and it put solanke at the top
cedar hull
Less goal threat though
trail forum
opposite to big at the back
broken patio
Isak is annoying me
Hearing rumours of his future being uncertain though, and wissa to Newcastle? Wtf is going on
trail forum
idk but ive only heard bad things
violet temple
opposite to big at the back
Actually looks quite good
broken patio
idk but ive only heard bad things
Probably enough to make not owning isak feel... Okay?
trail forum
Probably enough to make not owning isak feel... Okay?
hes left training, he wants a move, linked with saudi, wissa linked with newc
always something
im not even considering him
trail forum
Actually looks quite good
violet temple
wissa should just go to spurs easy lock
idk what to make of wirtz will probably stay away
cerulean cape
Who has the best 4.5m def rotation
trail forum
idk what to make of wirtz will probably stay away
yeah i really dont think hes gonna be all that from an fpl aspect
trail forum
but im a pussy and always have a shit gw1 so cant really afford to risk it
cedar hull
Rogers is very popular
trail forum
personally dont think hes worth 7 but seeing him everywhere
violet temple
Rogers is very popular
oh damn did not know that
cerulean cape
any of y'all looking at rogers?
Clear 3rd mid
violet temple
personally dont think hes worth 7 but seeing him everywhere
Yeah I kinda wanna have a villa attacker will see if I've got budget for watkins if not I might be there for Rogers
I think watkins got pens now too iirc?
broken patio
Rogers is 100% locked in my team
cedar hull
personally dont think hes worth 7 but seeing him everywhere
Would be too cheap at 6.5
trail forum
yeah true i guess
violet temple
At 6.5 you wouldn't consider any other 6.5s
Ye lol he'd be best by a mile
trail forum
always hard to swallow the correct price tag of someone once you have had them cheap
cerulean cape
Early days but ruling out bb i think
cedar hull
Cba for bb1
violet temple
Early days but ruling out bb i think
likewise
quick dawn
i cant decide on the best 6.5 mid
broken patio
Rogers
quick dawn
might actually be rodri
violet temple
I don't think bb gw1 gives us enough money to build a decent bench also
violet temple
i cant decide on the best 6.5 mid
Ndiaye is there I guess
trail forum
the best 6.5 mid is a 4.5 defender to free up budget
broken patio
So sad but I think I like Enzo and rice the best of the 6.5s
cerulean cape
Ndiaye barely played even when back from injury
trail forum
was the kompany big brain emote removed
violet temple
Ndiaye barely played even when back from injury
oh?
trail forum
cerulean cape
Charly alcaraz played a bit and did well
broken patio
Ndiaye got fucking 9 goals all season
violet temple
now that's what u call interesting
cerulean cape
How much was he
broken patio
was the kompany big brain emote removed
Yeah it's annoying
violet temple
don't everton have a new striker btw?
broken patio
Rallen do you remember this emote:
violet temple
Barry or something is he nailed?
cedar hull
Ndiaye got fucking 9 goals all season
4 in 520 mins under moyes
broken patio
cedar hull
He played shit under dyche
cerulean cape
Oh alcaraz is 5.5m
cedar hull
He's mid but he's not shit
cerulean cape
No doucoure as well, there's a cam spot free
violet temple
No doucoure as well, there's a cam spot free
Mcneil no?
cerulean cape
Didn't play much
violet temple
he was injured I believe
broken patio
Rw spot up for grabs too as Harrison is shit
quick dawn
i guess rice is an option
violet temple
everton are honestly really mid attack wise but they do have the fixtures I guess
broken patio
Can't wait for 5.0 Ayari to be playing as a 10 and getting good cbit numbers and goals
violet temple
Can't wait for 5.0 Ayari to be playing as a 10 and getting good cbit numbers and...
👀
broken patio
I'm telling you content creators will be talking about him big time at some point
It's too early, don't go there gw1
But it's gonna happen at some point
violet temple
the rogers of this season perhaps?
latent depot
Ah fuck, took a closer look at Christie's minutes, looks like he's off the menu
cerulean cape
Ah fuck, took a closer look at Christie's minutes, looks like he's off the menu
He was injured last 10
latent depot
He only started from midseason
broken patio
Check this screenshot
We've shifted from a 4atb into a 3atb, but it's actually DeCuyper LCB, and then dunk and vanhecke.
Wieffer has inverted from RB into the midfield 2 alongside Hinshelwood. The wingers have become wingbacks - Mitoma, gruda (out of shot), and then welbz is flanked by O'Riley, who started #10, and Ayari, who has become the other #10
Gomez played a similar role in the last friendly
violet temple
But he does run the midfield for them
esr is gonna somehow be good again
He'll get some jammy ah points like he does
broken patio
Ayari already scored a few in preseason and scored well at the end of last season too
latent depot
Looks like Lewis Cook and Alex Scott at Bournemouth's preferred starting pivots
cerulean cape
esr is gonna somehow be good again
Will tick along ye
pale tiger
watkins or bowen
cerulean cape
10 g+a season player
broken patio
Looks like Lewis Cook and Alex Scott at Bournemouth's preferred starting pivots
Where does this leave christie
broken patio
:/
orchid plank
esr is gonna somehow be good again
Wilson will get the returns it’s fine
broken patio
Does this mean we go back to Anderson
latent depot
Tavernier ended the season playing the 6 alongside Adams
So yeah Bournemouth look like they have 4 players for CM/DM
With Tav also able to play there
broken patio
Back in you go Anderson
latent depot
Does this mean we go back to Anderson
Yeah might have to be cos Baleba is so shit
broken patio
Ayari is the truth
You heard it here first
Even I am not bullish enough to go there gw1 though
cerulean cape
latent depot
Ok I think Adams and Cook might be first choice pivots, with Christie for competition and Scott returning from injury
cerulean cape
Without looking guess how many games konsa hit cbit?
broken patio
Oh god
latent depot
I also saw and it was shit
broken patio
Don't tell me it's like 3
cerulean cape
Less
cerulean cape
2 games
broken patio
Christ
trail forum
well he scored a clutch goal for me near the end of the season
soooo
whos the real winner
latent depot
I might start the season with Gvardiol until Tark returns
carmine arch
Might be copping jsl
broken patio
So who are the best 4.5s for cbit?
violet temple
udogie 2 and vdv 0? 💀
latent depot
Spurs defensive metrics are obv irrelevant
cerulean cape
I might start the season with Gvardiol until Tark returns
Obrien if noo tark?
cerulean cape
I really like obrien, he might even play rb again
latent depot
Obrien if noo tark?
I'm not looking at double Everton defence without Tark farming cbits
cerulean cape
Vs perma injured Coleman and out of favour patterson
broken patio
I might start the season with Gvardiol until Tark returns
Or we just go branthwaite?
broken patio
I'm not looking at double Everton defence without Tark farming cbits
Valid tbf
Double forest it is then
trail forum
i wish i was arsedto check myself, but id like to see what proportion of these cbit thresholds were against top10 teams, cant imagine it makes total sense to get forrest CBs for the easy fixtures and expect high cbit in those games too
broken patio
i wish i was arsedto check myself, but id like to see what proportion of these c...
Yeah I get you, like, if they're happening in games where we're benching them then what's the point
Which is why it probably benefits the premium CBs that you play every game, the most
trail forum
yeah and for their good fix run at the start you want clean sheets, and clean sheets dont come when each cb had 10+ clearances/tackles
broken patio
It might for some teams
Like forest and Everton
Due to how they play
Not gonna happen for arsenal for instance
cerulean cape
Wait
Michael keane stayed at everton
Wtf
He was out of contract
Fuck
Ye tark 3 months out atm
Doubt he starts season
trail forum
Like forest and Everton
picked two random comfortable wins by forrest last year (3-0 wol and 3-0 whu) and i guess you're kinda right
quick dawn
just get the premium defenders
trail forum
is it tackles ot successful tackles for cbit
broken patio
Ye tark 3 months out atm
Wtf
Well
Pickford is probably still good...... Right?
But if I'm not going tark then do I swap to milenkovic (already have Murillo) or branthwaite
Think I'd feel better about doubling on forest than on Everton with no tark
quick dawn
me having 0 of either
violet temple
Pickford is probably still good...... Right?
Not worth 5.5m unfortunately
broken patio
Disagree
trail forum
munoz from gw4 >
violet temple
u can get any keeper with 5.5 but u choose an everton one 💔
broken patio
munoz from gw4 >
He's also really high on CBIT for some wacky reason
trail forum
yeah exactly
violet temple
I guess it depends when ur wildcarding tho
broken patio
u can get any keeper with 5.5 but u choose an everton one 💔
Check these points
Pickford got 158 last season
You'd pay 5.5 for a Def with that
So why not Pickford
violet temple
when are u planning on wildcarding any idea beef
broken patio
When I need to
violet temple
if ur gonna wc late id rather opt for raya Or rotate 2
broken patio
If I'm wildcarding late then pickford becomes even better
Top scoring GK 2 seasons in a row
The longer you leave it the better
violet temple
okay then looks like u know what ur cooking
gl
I'm prob gonna just stick to what I normally do and rotate 2 cheap keepers
broken patio
Has that ever worked?
violet temple
no I always bench the one that hauls 🔥
broken patio
This is my problem with rotating gks
The only time cheap gks haul BIG is in tough fix, where they aren't expected to clean, but make a ton of saves and somehow do
And then they get bps and everything
violet temple
honestly I haven't really looked too much into keepers
broken patio
Sure they get cleans outside of the tough fixtures and will blank in most of the tough fixtures
violet temple
Just tryna figure out the attackers first seems the most important area
broken patio
But the massive hauls in tough fixtures are what elevates their overall points at the end of the season
By rotating cheap gks you guarantee to miss out on every single one of those hauls
violet temple
But the massive hauls in tough fixtures are what elevates their overall points a...
Ye I get what ur sayin
how much is sels?
5?
broken patio
5.0
violet temple
that's a good price
may potentially be there
is there any1 that's insane on cbits from nfo?
cerulean cape
Wtf
Sorry I meant hes been out for 3 months
Still out tho
Only 3 weeks til start of season
If hes doesn't start gw1 then hes not a pick
I do think obrien is good enough to replace him
violet temple
O'Brien was decent last season I believe
broken patio
Yeah it's not looking good
I think I'd be happy to just have Pickford tbh
And double up on forest instead
violet temple
woah going big at the back I see
violet temple
looks good
cerulean cape
Bowen to welbeck maybe an option
broken patio
Obvs Milner never played so who knows
violet temple
I might be overlooking welbeck
U are indeed seems to be the real deal
broken patio
This is one of those occasions where I thank my bias because I don't have to decide on welbeck, I just own him
violet temple
Yeah vvd is good from like gw 4 if I'm not wrong
latent depot
Might actually start Anderson and play him every week... If he plays CM/DM he's going to farm cbits and if he plays CAM, well you've got a 5.5 CAM. Some games he'll switch position so you get the 2 points as well
Bro could average 4.5ppm
latent depot
15 DCs per 90 is wild. Caicedo is 13/90
My back of the envelope maths adjusts him to 161 points at 4.35ppm for last season
broken patio
Did not expect to be tripled on forest after their end to last season lmao
broken patio
This means no Wood
Join me on milenkovic Murillo Anderson gang
latent depot
Well yeah, that's the plan
latent depot
Not sure about his service without MGW/Elanga, but Forest rate to remain defensively sound
I might still revert cos lack of forwards
violet temple
Join me on milenkovic Murillo Anderson gang
If tark is fit for gw 1 are u gonna switch sels and tark for milenkovic and pick
violet temple
switch to*
cerulean cape
Maybe even harvey elliot
cedar hull
broken patio
If tark is fit for gw 1 are u gonna switch sels and tark for milenkovic and pick
Would probably just swap milenkovic for tark
latent depot
Need Wissa and Isak transfers to happen but Wissa would be 50% owned
broken patio
Yeah