haven’t planned in detail
#road to 200k messages
cerulean cape
a lot depends on on brighton
are we saying no to fulham right?
esr over murphy maybe if gw6 wc
latent depot
Fulham is just a pure fixture play, wouldn't talk anyone out of it. Realistically there's 1 clean sheet GW1-5, prob happening either GW2 or GW3
The fix are better for attack
cerulean cape
Yea thinking esr over murphy
slim bane
Yea thinking esr over murphy
Murphy to esr is possible
cerulean cape
Murphy being a shit footballer for 95% of his career is really putting me off
It saves a ft for me
cerulean cape
So esr + 4 gw1-5 vs a murphy/minteh
latent depot
Don't think I'd bother with Murphy on any other WC plan than WC6
cerulean cape
I've bought into wc6
I can never see a world where esr ever gets a double return
But is that an issue, probs not
slim bane
4.2 PPG is sufficient for ESR
cerulean cape
How much should a 5.5m get with vapm
latent depot
Fulham have been underwhelming in pre
cerulean cape
Fulham have been underwhelming in pre
Expected, never score more than 2
cerulean cape
4.2 PPG is sufficient for ESR
So 21 points for 5.5m?
slim bane
So 21 points for 5.5m?
21 points in 5 games
That’s 2 assists 1 goal
Same for Murphy
Assuming Murphy starts all games
(He won’t)
latent depot
Murphy gets to bank some clean sheets with 65-75min subs 
slim bane
doubt they clean until then 
latent depot
Think Newcastle buy a winger at deadline, Murphy has a shot to start GW1-5 if he's earned it before IB1
If he can't do it with those fix, he's gone for Minteh GW4-5
cerulean cape
Yea
latent depot
WC6 is so perfect for Wood/Murphy tbh, you get to punt on Brighton's GW4-5
latent depot
And you have Barco's freeroll for GW4-5 triple up as well, can get rid on WC when Estu is definitely in contention
latent depot
His xGI per start is actually better than Gordon's
umbral zinc
I dont mind Murphy but it feels weird to triple up on Newcastle attack
It's just a mental bias though I guess
latent depot
Ignore that and ask yourself if you would triple up on the 4th best attack in the league for 8.5/7.5/5.5 at home vs the worst promoted defence ever, with ok fix GW2-5
umbral zinc
Oh I know, just an odd feeling seeing 3 Newcastle shirts in the bottom half of my team
Would be a first
latent depot
If everyone owns Isak, then nobody owns Isak
umbral zinc
Isak is absolutely locked and I'm pretty set on Gordon (other than the fact I have a slight suspicion he might not start gw1)
cerulean cape
If everyone owns Isak, then nobody owns Isak
Basically this
slim bane
Still dk who to captain
cerulean cape
Isak is absolutely locked and I'm pretty set on Gordon (other than the fact I ha...
I agree with the Gordon doubt
But howe is just wtf
No point guessing him
latent depot
Gordon is annoying, wish he had more minutes in pre
cerulean cape
I'm been on isak cap all along
umbral zinc
Barnes is a super capable replacement so wouldn't be surprised to see gordon benched
slim bane
mental bias as well
cerulean cape
I think isak and barco are the only 2 that has made it to every draft I've made
slim bane
Hasn’t done well when he’s in my team
latent depot
I post teams with Isak captained but I'm just pretending. Will cap Salah
Mid over forward and all that
slim bane
Yea I’m between Jota and isak for now
latent depot
I don't think that's as close... Jota's playing 65-75?
slim bane
cerulean cape
You seen the Diaz probs fake news?
slim bane
You seen the Diaz probs fake news?
what
slim bane
lmaooo
latent depot
What
latent depot
Not as dumb as Gordon to Liverpool tho, they'd have Chelsea depth at LW
cerulean cape
So we need another 7.5m mid now lol?
slim bane
imagine my team just changes kit colours
cerulean cape
Not Gordon or diaz
slim bane
Don’t even have to spend FTs
Gordon to pool then Diaz to city
Suddenly I have a city player
and the three pool is still there
umbral zinc
Gordon to ESR, Wood to Havertz works
I like Havertz but Wood bags at least 2 goals gw1
umbral zinc
<:kekwat:680200992456835134>
I mean I'm not set on it
My 3rd striker spot is either Wood Havertz or Joao pedro if i get broke
latent depot
🪵 gets too much disrespect 41G 6A in 110 starts under Dycheball, DCL could never
cerulean cape
Dcl should 100% be in more convos with wood/muniz/dcl
Not saying I would pick him
But he's deffo convo worthy
latent depot
He was back to missing sitters in pre. DCL is on my radar for WC6 tho, Everton fix swing is GOATed, but Wissa is also there
There are timelines where I end up with 3x Brentford and 3x Everton on WC6 to facilitate 3x City and 3x Arsenal 
slim bane
No Cunha?
latent depot
Wolves fix run is later
slim bane
9 onwards
slim bane
new manager right
latent depot
When did he join I forget
slim bane
forgor
slim bane
Why would you get a gw9 player on wc6
Thinking ahead 
cerulean cape
He joined like 2 days before season I think
slim bane
and lost Neto
latent depot
Elevenify CS odds are noticeably different to spread bet market
Always knew they were sus
oak furnace
I've gotten to a stage where ive over thought everything
cerulean cape
I have overthought but mostly with the same team luckily
umbral zinc
Its down to the last few positions for me
Eze and Wood vs Solanke and Smith Rowe is what I'm tossing up at the moment a
Currently on the former
lavish parcel
How many games are we expecting Barco to play?
oak furnace
I didn't realise Brighton gw 4 and 5 is so good
split grove
Just making my contribution to the 10000
slim bane
Just making my contribution to the 10000
W
split grove
since it opened
Well good luck
slim bane
lol
lavish parcel
do I dare go 2x 5.5s and rogers
oak furnace
I've entered delulu overthinking with my team
lavish parcel
is that time of the year
broken patio
Barco THB Johnson GANG
acoustic edge
Elevenify CS odds are noticeably different to spread bet market
am slightly worried elevenify is overrating arsenal attack but ode train marches on
broken patio
acoustic edge
haaland too expensive
slim bane
esr solanke or havertz bobb?
broken patio
I can't convince myself on Bobb with the other xmins risk players I have in this team
oak furnace
Have I gone to far?
slim bane
I can't convince myself on Bobb with the other xmins risk players I have in this...
fair
oak furnace
Is it good?
lavish parcel
one of the teams
oak furnace
Lmao
oak furnace
I feel like Eze can go down to get in solanke
lavish parcel
solanke going to spurs was perfect
oak furnace
broken patio
I feel like Eze can go down to get in solanke
Eze wood/Muniz is the same price as ESR/Murphy solanke O_o
oak furnace
Why have I built the most random team that might actually work
Have I lost the plot
Wait this might work
In gw3 porro and Solanke to a 4.0 (maybe that villa right back if he's playing) and Watkins
I've stumbled across the team
cerulean cape
In gw3 porro and Solanke to a 4.0 (maybe that villa right back if he's playing) ...
said this not far up
oak furnace
said this not far up
So I'm not crazy
I just have this feeling that Salah will haul gw1
He does this every year
Pretends he's washed in preseason then hauls gw1
lavish parcel
Eze wood/Muniz is the same price as ESR/Murphy solanke O_o
I prefer the second
oak furnace
I prefer the second
Same
lavish parcel
sonlanke to watkunku
oak furnace
Fuck me I'm actually so happy
I didn't think I'd find something I would be happy with
It's still very risky but that's how I play
latent depot
Robinson is a worthwhile upgrade over Johnson, punt on Bobb over ESR
broken patio
Can't bring myself to do that
latent depot
1 pointer GW2-3
oak furnace
If you do that it's basically my team
latent depot
Rogers/Bobb rotation when Murphy is right there
oak furnace
I just went with porro over Saliba and got Rogers on the bench
Idk who to start gw1 out of bobb and Rogers tbf
I feel like bobbs highest xmins is gw1
latent depot
Murphy
latent depot
Oh lol I thought that was Gordon
zenith jolt
Bobb and rogers
oak furnace
Lol
zenith jolt
Just get a 5.5
latent depot
Didn't look closely
oak furnace
Don't want a 4.5 on the bench
latent depot
I assumed it was Gordon cos you only had budget for 5.0 rotation
latent depot
🪵
oak furnace
I just think Salah significantly outperforms saka son palmer over the first 5 weeks
Wood over Solanke gives me 1.5 which isn't enough for Rogers to eze
I'm trying to avoid players with transfer risk tho
zenith jolt
joao pedro/armstrong does
oak furnace
Eze, Diaz, guehi, Andersen, Gordon
I think that Solanke is important because he gives you an easy way to get Watkins in gw3
I don't see how going without Watkins in gw3 makes sense
oak furnace
Fpl wire hates w
Quansah
Hates who?
cedar pine
Fpl wire hates w
Quansah
Because of the liverpool spot i assume
Soo easy to imagine trent plus two attack being essential early on
Then u stare at ur quansah who gets 2 or 6 pts
frank mulch
Who here is on Jota
slim bane
Who here is on Jota
Jota TAA in here mostly
oak furnace
Is hall fieldable gw3 at home against spurs?
I think he might be a better pick than Robinson
But need to field in gw3
lavish parcel
Who here is on Jota
hi
violet temple
Who here is on Jota
Say gm to 99% of the rmt
latent depot
Wait really
I'm on Salah/Szobo/Trent
Szobo has less competition at CAM and I think he's the most likely after Salah to start every game GW1-5. His average position was basically the same as Jota's on Sunday
lavish parcel
Interesting
Back to Porro + Szobo and 0.5itb
Downgrading porro to afford Jota is what I am stuck with
But spurs are spursy
They will find a way to concede vs Leicester who haven't scored in 3 preszn games
latent depot
It was Mac10 attacking the box that Tsimikas was aiming for before the clearance to Nyoni for his goal from edge of the box
Szobo was in the same position as Nyoni, just on right side of box
Cross went over Mac's head
lavish parcel
Szobo could have had goal but instead chose to assist no?
latent depot
Yes he made the better decision in a 1v1
lavish parcel
That would be similar to what he scored vs Betis
latent depot
Looks like both Mac and Szobo will be allowed to get forward
lavish parcel
Yeah if gravenberch or Endo starts with them
I wonder what would happen if Elliot was there
latent depot
Mac/Szobo/Jota average positions are just about a straight line. Salah most often furthest forward but wide, Diaz behind him and also wide
The set play is Allison to CF to win the header, Szobo picks up second ball, pass, run, receive pass, score/assist
lavish parcel
Yeah
Or sometimes dink the ball to cf and hope he finishes
Jota and Carvalho's goals
I wanna have triple Liverpool but Son and Saka are in the way
I can see myself downgrading Saka for Liverpool mids around gw4
split grove
I can see myself downgrading Saka for Liverpool mids around gw4
Best to wait to see who plays consistently for them? Seems like entire squad is rotation based right
lavish parcel
Worst case scenario for triple Pool is if the game ends 1-1 with dead goal from Nunez/Gakpo in second half
lavish parcel
Best to wait to see who plays consistently for them? Seems like entire squad is ...
That was the plan before Sunday's game
But I need someone who is not Salah for their GW2 game vs Brentford at Anfield
And it's between Szobo and Jota who have both looked lovely and nailed on during all preszn
split grove
But I need someone who is not Salah for their GW2 game vs Brentford at Anfield
Trent?
Oh an attacker
lavish parcel
Can't afford him sadly, it takes away one of my captaincy options
latent depot
I wanna have triple Liverpool but Son and Saka are in the way
I don't like either of them I looked at Son's LW vs CF stats from last season and it put me off. Saka didn't look sharp in his only game, but their best fix is GW1, can't afford for him to warm up
lavish parcel
Saka did miss a big chance tho
split grove
Can't afford him sadly, it takes away one of my captaincy options
Everyone else is maybe a minutes risk
lavish parcel
Son is just unpredictable
split grove
Don’t take my word for it though I’m truly clueless this is my first day of fpl hahaha
Just learning from others
lavish parcel
With Solanke, I expect son's returns to increase where he wouldn't be the only finisher
More assists, more bps and he plays 90 mins most of the games
Son is a long term hold just if there a week when the triple Pool and triple city fail, son's returns could help my rank
He is only owned 11%
10.8% dropping coz of Solanke
split grove
I can’t understand why Palmer isn’t more favorable
lavish parcel
Palmer was so lovely under Pochettino
latent depot
Maresca is fraudulent, Chelsea look terrible, barely any preseason, GW1 vs City
lavish parcel
Chelsea are adapting to Maresca's idea and it won't click right away
split grove
But everyone takes nkunku because he’s cheaper
lavish parcel
Nkunku is 6.5m
Why wouldn't you get it
Especially when the money this year is tight
But again, Chelsea are still adapting and they are more of a wait and watch compared to Liverpool mids
cerulean cape
Szobo so clear of nkunku first 5
latent depot
Nkunku might be injured by GW5
zenith jolt
Felix to chelsea would be the final blow for nkunku
split grove
Szobo so clear of nkunku first 5
Do you think he will be a consistent start?
latent depot
I think he's the 2nd most likely attacker after Salah to start every game GW1-6
lavish parcel
Think he is the best midfielder after Salah to be nailed on
latent depot
But obv not a certainty
LW and CF have more/better comp
I think CAM/CF/LW all get subbed 65-80 mins every game
split grove
Think he is the best midfielder after Salah to be nailed on
Does he play the full game?
lavish parcel
Like mcgrr said
lavish parcel
He would be subbed off once the game is theirs
But I think he is nailed to start every game unless slot decides to use Elliot if Szobo plays UCL
split grove
I did some searching and he liked to play 4 attackers so I thought maybe Diaz or Darwin play more over a midfielder
lavish parcel
He has said he will play 433 on paper
Which needs 3 midfielders
Then during the play, he could opt for 4231 or 424, using the cam as a secondary striker
And the wingers wide
split grove
Oh so maybe Alexis szobo and Elliot
lavish parcel
To open up the defence backline
I wish he would play Elliot over Endo and Gravenberch
split grove
He willlll
lavish parcel
But that means szobo is handed a little defensive role
split grove
Not of Alexis plays defensive like last year
lavish parcel
Oh yeah not that much
Szobo struggled so bad when he was used as double pivot under Klopp
McAll has the ability to be the #6 on his own
With Szobo and/or Elliot as #8 or even #10 together
split grove
I am not smart enough to understand double pivot but yes I agree whatever you said hah
lavish parcel
If he chooses Elliot over the other twos
lavish parcel
I am not smart enough to understand double pivot but yes I agree whatever you sa...
Double pivot is a pair of CM playing behind the number #10 and has more defensive duty , eg 4231 or 4222 in some cases
It could be used to maintain good shape and possession of the ball
split grove
That makes some sense still a bit confusing but I think I get it
lavish parcel
Slot is known for overloading players in the attack so the likelihood of double pivot is very minimal especially against weak teams
latent depot
Slot builds centrally with the 6 and 8 slightly offset vertically in front of the CBs, the 10 is further forward. That said, Mac was arriving late in the box as well, or maybe taking it in turns with Szobo
The 10 is almost as high as the CF
lavish parcel
Does that reduce the appeal of taa and robbo?
We haven't seen their threat from set pieces
latent depot
Both are great, Slot's FBs have a ton of returns. In his system LB/RW provide width, LW cuts inside, RB inverts and progresses. But obv that's not suitable for Liverpool's players
We've seen both FBs quite deep, LB is overlapping more, Trent is underlapping more, but too small a sample to say if that's the strategy
They're both advancing tho despite deep starting position
Basically the team is set up to get the ball to the 10 and the FBs advance with the ball
Trent will prob ping his signature long balls from deep, or under/overlap. LB will be crossing more
Through balls and overloads from the right
split grove
We've seen both FBs quite deep, LB is overlapping more, Trent is underlapping mo...
All I hear about Trent is he can’t defend
latent depot
He'll get a lot of cover in Slot's system
split grove
I don’t understand it because others says he’s the best modern defender in the world so what the heck is he
split grove
Both are bad takes and not nuanced enough
Had to look up what nuanced meant but yeah I see what you mean
lavish parcel
Mcgrr with the level 10 English
split grove
Mcgrr with the level 10 English
I’m level 1 so I can’t even keep up haha
lavish parcel
Yeah he forces us to learn some words to be better at FPL
fleet oracle
All I hear about Trent is he can’t defend
It’s not that he can’t defend, he’s actually a good defender. He doesn’t want to defend, pushes up very high, and so therefore has gotten caught out of position when Liverpool get turned over.
lavish parcel
It’s not that he can’t defend, he’s actually a good defender. He doesn’t want to...
Sevilla's goal says otherwise
Bro got juked
Bradley more solid defensively
acoustic edge
It’s not that he can’t defend, he’s actually a good defender. He doesn’t want to...
i’m sure “doesn’t want to defend” is tactical lmfao
taa will be good
latent depot
yeah imagine a modern player who'd let their team down cos they "didn't want to" defend
acoustic edge
yeah imagine a modern player who'd let their team down cos they "didn't want to"...
a player that gets paid 180K a week asw
broken patio
I remember Rory Jennings saying that arsenal selling auba was a massive mistake
cerulean cape
Taa defensive ability being bad is overstated
Walker was the worst England player this summer and he got rb of the tournament
latent depot
that was so strange, were there any other England players? I forget, maybe they felt like they had to pick one, and also ruled out Carvajal for missing a game due to his RC?
latent depot
So many people benching Barco GW1 
cedar hull
Dunk bullet header with barco assist incoming
latent depot
Clean sheet spread bet odds bit weird tho, just smacks of "errr we don't know"
cedar hull
Yeah i genuinely think they have no clue
Lot of key manager changes and/or signings
@latent depot surely obrien plays over keane no?
Or is tarkowski out too
In terms of eve defence
latent depot
I don't know enough about Everton defence
cedar hull
They signed obrien from lyon for 20m
Good defender
If tarkowski is here it should be tark + obrien
latent depot
Haven't done the research cos I lost interest in owning them pretty early in pre
Well that's reassuring, do you own Mykolenko then?
cedar hull
Nah
Pickford
Well leno atm
Switch to leno with branthwaite news
Forgot they signed obrien but just remembered
latent depot
Ah, Pickford is the play if you're wildcarding around GW13-15
cedar hull
I dont like any keepers other than henderson and they might lose their 2 best cbs
latent depot
Yeah, it's not ideal. Realistically, every 4.5-5 GK is likely keeping 1 clean sheet GW1-5
Obv somebody will keep 2, but not at all predictable who
frank mulch
I dont like any keepers other than henderson and they might lose their 2 best cb...
They did fine without Guehi
Last season
oak furnace
Yeah, it's not ideal. Realistically, every 4.5-5 GK is likely keeping 1 clean sh...
There's gonna be some random keeper who hauls from a pen save but it's just luck of the draw
lavish parcel
I am on Areola atm
latent depot
They did fine without Guehi
It's Andersen to Fulham that's the issue
lavish parcel
Lopetegui's defensive stats at Sevilla were one of the bests
PL is different but they have got nice recruitments
latent depot
It's not improving overnight, especially with their fixtures
lavish parcel
Less likely to concede 2 goals tho
Wait
No
West Ham lost 3-1 back to back in preszn vs Wolves and Palace
How did I forget it
Ffs
cedar hull
They did fine without Guehi
I know, hence why i said 2 cbs
Areolas first five arent actually too bad
Deceiving
Chelsea is a 2, fulham a 2,
Villa and palace meh
lavish parcel
I am on and off about areola
latent depot
Chelsea GW1-3 is a 2, think they'll have adapted to the system by after IB1
cerulean cape
Twitter
lavish parcel
Other candidate is Muric but I doubt Ipswich keep any cs
lavish parcel
https://twitter.com/BrightonBubble/status/1823411407137788266
No fucking way
cedar hull
Barco dead
cerulean cape
more barcontinueonthebench
cedar hull
At least gw4/5
latent depot
No Kadioglu is right footed and will play RB
Veltman is a CB and has been playing RB out of necessity
latent depot
Kadioglu can play everywhere on the pitch, and is two footed
oak furnace
Kadioglou was originally a right back
cedar hull
His primary position is LB
latent depot
His career position map is crazy on transfermarkt
cedar hull
But is right footed ofc
cerulean cape
lavish parcel
Wtf
cerulean cape
you're welcome
oak furnace
Played left back in the euros
lavish parcel
Could be our Lundstram
oak furnace
Give us kadioglou 4.5
lavish parcel
Definitely he is in my team
latent depot
Does Estu play RB at all
cedar hull
No
latent depot
Give us kadioglou 4.5
Estu is 5 right? Haven't looked
lavish parcel
I think
oak furnace
Imagine they fuck up and make kadioglu 4.5
oak furnace
Estu is 5 right? Haven't looked
Yep
cedar hull
Estu is 5 right? Haven't looked
5 yeah, hes never played rb in his career
latent depot
Yeah he's going to be 5, too risky that he ends up RW
oak furnace
Or even better make him 4.0
lavish parcel
I think my defence is set if kadioglu is 5m or under
oak furnace
cedar hull
Hes not gonna start straight away
oak furnace
dont see how he can be 5
latent depot
Maybe Barco plays LW
lavish parcel
Maybe Barco plays LW <:pepela:868517076954927124>
Mitoma
latent depot
Oh well, I only need Barco until GW5
oak furnace
kadioglu minteh pedro triple up
lavish parcel
Really hope FPL don't make him a midfielder
cedar hull
Doubt it
oak furnace
he played left back all euros
latent depot
Would be weird if they did
lavish parcel
That's great then
oak furnace
he has to be defender
cedar hull
Thats his career positions, but only really played lb past year
oak furnace
its just whether hes 4.5 or 5.0
cedar hull
Most likely 5 if we are being honest
latent depot
Brighton stacking LBs like Scotland
oak furnace
imo hes a new signing and unproven so should be 4.5
lavish parcel
I am vibing with Munoz, Mitchell and Kadioglu probably then
oak furnace
but they made calafiori 6.0 based on his potential
cerulean cape
price him at 4.7m
oak furnace
if they give kadioglu 5.0 theyre saying hes on estupinan level
cedar hull
Thats exactly why hed be 5
latent depot
Calafiori 5.5 would have been a mistake fo sho. He could be clear of the 6.0 CBs by GW6
oak furnace
timber is 5.5 so i expected calafiori to be priced the same
lavish parcel
Beef creaming somewhere
latent depot
Na, new starting calibre signing was always going to be more than bro who missed a season through injury
cedar hull
timber is 5.5 so i expected calafiori to be priced the same
Timber isnt gonna be first choice, hope this helps 👍
oak furnace
if calafiori is gonna be first choice left back why not price him at 6.5 like white then
now hes 0.5 underpriced on white
latent depot
Well he could be worth that, but obv enough doubt there for them to err towards 6
cedar hull
Because like you were saying earlier, hes unproven
oak furnace
either way I expect kadioglu will replace veltman at right back and then estupinan will replace barco at left back when hes fit
lavish parcel
Estu always gets injured tho
oak furnace
barco probs a fine pick imo
latent depot
The only fix that I really need Barco for is GW1 so I'm ok. GW4-5 would be nice to have
lavish parcel
🪵
latent depot
Wood/Murphy to Brighton 5.5s
oak furnace
will be a 1-1 or something
latent depot
i just feel like everton probs score gw1
Yeah both games were 1-1 last season. They'll shithouse a goal
lavish parcel
oak furnace
thats why im just going for lewis hall and then barco can play gw4-5 if he makes it there
i really want more info on what is going on with villa rb
https://www.astonvillanews.co.uk/2024/08/12/matty-cash-transfer-verdict-emerges-as-aston-villa-confirm-loan-exit/
Seems like cash is staying but he didnt play any preseason
latent depot
Yes that's the clickbait title that I saw
Cash is staying, it's some rando who's getting loaned
He played plenty of mins in pre, just 0 in the final game
oak furnace
yes but is he fit?
oh
yeh cash played the second last preseason game but not the last one
https://x.com/avfcbreaking/status/1821556088136757657
look at this from nedeljkovic tho
Twitter
latent depot
Yes, he's got a fair bit of hype, but if he's not starting consistently, doesn't matter what price he is
oak furnace
would he be coming off the bench if he doesnt start?
latent depot
Prob some chance yeah, how else do you give him mins
oak furnace
ucl starts early
latent depot
Includes ET subs to run down the clock
oak furnace
im just trying to work out the best third defender slot for gw3
latent depot
Yeah I looked at that that's why I have Barco/Robinson/HB rotation for GW1-5
oak furnace
ive got trent porro hall barco 4.0
but considering swapping hall to robinson
oak furnace
yeh thats why im like i could risk the villa rb incase he plays gw3
latent depot
He's your best bet if Cash is out and they haven't bought anymore until deadline
oak furnace
also considering if i do porro solanke to 4.0 watkins in gw3
then my defence would be trent 4.5 4.0 4.0 4.0
latent depot
Why don't you replace Hall with Robinson and go with my suggested rotation
oak furnace
yeh thats what im considering
then gw3 i either get the villa rb or one of the ipswich guys as my third 4.0
trent porro robinson barco thb
then porro to 4.0 in gw3
latent depot
I think bookies have Brighton clean sheet odds too low. Hurzeler is solid and there's not a huge adaptation from last season
oak furnace
probably gonna wildcard in gw6 to triple arsenal
hopefully i can field 2 of bobb murphy and rogers until gw6 also 💀
slim bane
So many people benching Barco GW1 <:peepoSmile:937329542480154705>
I’m on the fence
slim bane
Ah, Pickford is the play if you're wildcarding around GW13-15 <:pepela:868517076...
Yesssir
lavish parcel
Is it a bad thing that I have 22.5 spent on defence?
slim bane
Why is eze 6.1
Cos the hub AI tool
lavish parcel
My mid is 30.5m and my attackers are worth 28m
oak furnace
i still dont know whether to captain salah, haaland or isak
i feel like if i own salah i should captain him
oak furnace
i think i like isak the best
lavish parcel
Tf
slim bane
the one big problem is that I think the Murphy jump to kdb is too much
lavish parcel
No Minteh ?
slim bane
but anw it’ll leave my team like this
slim bane
No Minteh ?
idk I’m just playing around with price points
oak furnace
when does brentford run clean up?
slim bane
The non-premium players are dependent on form anyway
lavish parcel
Minteh+ JP is nice to have for gw4-5
slim bane
oak furnace
im trying to find a way to get minteh in gw4
slim bane
Minteh+ JP is nice to have for gw4-5
you can’t be planning for 2Gws surely
Unless you’re on wc6
lavish parcel
Long wc
oak furnace
im on wc6
oak furnace
u starting havertz now ayy?
slim bane
yea
lavish parcel
Trying to extend my wc most I can while aiming for ez fix
Locked on assets are Saka, Son, Haaland, Isak who won't leave my team unless there is an injury
slim bane
I’m trying to jump ahead of the wc teams by using FTs to get into a team wc teams might end up in
and then we will be on par but I still have WC
so by the time meta shifts again and people need to use FTs, I can WC and get ahead
lavish parcel
Maybe the effort to jump ahead could lead to chasing them
slim bane
points wise maybe but in terms of where the squad is at we’d be the same
unless I balls up my FTs
lavish parcel
Why not just plan bit by bit
That way you wont have to make any compromises with your picks
slim bane
5-6GW chunks are ok
cos if say u get in minteh for only 4 and 5, he’d need to put up 12.4 points in 2 games to be worth it
lavish parcel
Just start off with the price points that are easily accessible to those who wc6
slim bane
Need to see potential wc6 teams then
probably should scroll up to find if mcgrrr posted any
lavish parcel
Brentford assets, Arsenal assets, City assets
Maybe spurs
Yeah definitely spurs
Havertz/Solanke
Son/Saka/Foden/Kdb
Trent/Arsenal Def/Gvardiol
Mbuemo/Diaz/Gordon/Trossard
Murphy/Minteh/Carvalho
Wood/Muniz/Wissa/JP
That is roughly what wc teams would like like, hard to say what defence they will opt for
Really good price points picks
oak furnace
my plan for gw6 wildcard is 3 arsenal, 3 spurs, 1 city, 3 villa, 3 everton, 2 brentford
lavish parcel
3 Everton tf
oak furnace
the have the money to get a second and third city players for the villa players
lavish parcel
3 villa
lavish parcel
Okay if it is that way
Still I don't see where I would triple up on villa
Plus UCL starts
oak furnace
Still I don't see where I would triple up on villa
they play ipswich gw6
then i would jump off them only triple city
lavish parcel
Watkins alone should suffice
oak furnace
maybe
lavish parcel
You don't need to necessarily triple up on team like villa, brentford, palace, Brighton
No matter how good the fix look
The high priced assets are there for a reason
Consistency
They will get you returns in tough games
Saves the unnecessary transfer panic
Having triple high priced assets of the same team like Haaland, kdb and Foden is understandable coz if you had that trio towards the end of season, you were hauling every other week from them
oak furnace
Here's a gw6 wildcard draft
obviously its way too far out to know
but something like this
slim bane
but anw it’ll leave my team like this
so somewhere in the ballpark ig
oak furnace
pretty similar
slim bane
the one big problem is that I think the Murphy jump to kdb is too much
also I realised later I’m stupid lol idn to do Murphy to kdb, I can do Murphy to mboomo
oak furnace
it just means i can have other assets before then
like having isak and murphy until gw5 then jump off
one guy im worried about not owning is esr
bobb/rogers vs esr/winks
slim bane
If I don’t make any other transfers I won’t have to take hits:
Murphy -> Minteh GW4
Isak -> Wissa (+2.5M) GW6
Gordon -> Eze (+0.5M) GW6
Minteh -> Mboomo (-1.5M) GW6
TAA -> Myko (+2.5M) GW8
Diaz -> KDB (-2M) GW8
Jota -> Foden (-2M) GW8
oak furnace
He has neither
oak furnace
Is Kdb really gonna stay fit for that long
oak furnace
Also if calafiori takes the left back spot surely you want him?
slim bane
Is Kdb really gonna stay fit for that long
Even better I can get Rodri for 3M less
Then I can get son for eze
oak furnace
If kdb gets injured is Rodri the pick?
slim bane
Probably
oak furnace
Rodri is just goated player
slim bane
might consider getting Rodri anyway to fit in son
lavish parcel
True
slim bane
that was one of my gripes unless Eze completely tears it up
lavish parcel
I might have start to think of something like this if I wanna extend my wc
Not gonna copy you I promise
slim bane
frank mulch
What happened to Luis Diaz
slim bane
What happened to Luis Diaz
I’m playing transfers now
lavish parcel
overlooked Solanke ngl
The run from gw6 to gw19 is so nice
Solanke and Porro might be my Set and forget picks
oak furnace
lemme redo this gw6 team
best arsenal picks are saka calafiori and havertz from gw6 yeh?
slim bane
ehhhhh
oak furnace
or would another defender be better over havertz
oak furnace
yeh thats cos its what u have
slim bane
that’s always been my consideration
oak furnace
idk if we can fit haaland solanke havertz foden and son
I managed to get this
My team will look nothing like that in gw5 so I'm likely wildcarding there
slim bane
idk if we can fit haaland solanke havertz foden and son
Yea I reached the same conclusion unfortunately
slim bane
Probably can drop Cala to 4.0
lavish parcel
Wonder if I want to switch Saka to Foden GW2/3 and keep him long term if pep says he will play those games
oak furnace
Wonder if I want to switch Saka to Foden GW2/3 and keep him long term if pep say...
i think its a possibility
lavish parcel
I will just start off with Saka then
slim bane
idk if we can fit haaland solanke havertz foden and son
if I had porro over ars def then 5.5 mids maybe
arguably looking at amad / mainoo
lavish parcel
Jumping onto foden before gw6 teams could prove vital @slim bane
slim bane
not that bad
oak furnace
if I had porro over ars def then 5.5 mids maybe
arguably that team could easily be manageable
slim bane
Jumping onto foden before gw6 teams could prove vital <@231018137699483648>
but I’m probably jumping on after gw6 tho
to catch pool’s last few games
need to see mood
lavish parcel
7.5m mid price point for those pool mids
oak furnace
we got palace away in gw7 which is likely a hard game then chelsea gw8 who also trouble us as well
lavish parcel
Realistically we are not going for Nunez and Gakpo, forward spot
It comes down to Diaz, Jota and Szobo unless you wanna spend big on Salah
oak furnace
i ideally only want diaz and jota until their xmins drop
lavish parcel
Easily achievable if you start off with gordon
I have Jota right from the start so it's not bad
oak furnace
if jota holds the striker spot then he might be a season long hold
oak furnace
Easily achievable if you start off with gordon
this makes no sense
lavish parcel
Just hope he doesn't get injured
lavish parcel
this makes no sense
Gordon to Jota/Diaz gw4
oak furnace
im starting jota
oak furnace
jota is a lock
lavish parcel
to catch pool’s last few games
I was trying to say that to Ayy when he said this
I thought he doesn't have any Liverpool mids
For some reason, I am sorry about that lol
oak furnace
prefer the left
umbral zinc
i have been on the left yeah
im not convinced on saka being worth for 10m to start with but i think hes better than the other options
oak furnace
get son over saka
slim bane
For some reason, I am sorry about that lol
blud forgor we looking into the future rn
umbral zinc
get son over saka
still like saka over son
son back on the wing doesnt do it for me
for now at least
oak furnace
Yeh it's up to you
lavish parcel
we're over 25% there
siuuu
scenes when we hit 10k before the deadline
not impossible
but would probably need some game-breaking news
It's possible
lavish parcel
if I had porro over ars def then 5.5 mids maybe
This is what mine looks like after gw7
Hard to let Isak go with the way Newcastle fix changes
Mixed run of fix
I will message in shorter bursts
and not full sentences
Trossard could be any 7m or lower mid
lone glade
good
lavish parcel
maybe that gets the count up
Yeah
I think
That will help
you dropped porro? or is that down the line
I don't have porro
Spurs concede too many goals for him to justify his vapm
Son and solanke likely to get all the bps unless porro scores
fleet oracle
@slim bane that all looks good but 1 or 2 bad price rises/falls and that whole strategy goes up in smoke. Then you’re left chasing transfers to avoid using the WC early, possible taking hits and making early transfers just to accommodate
lavish parcel
Any def above 5m needs to have atleast have atleast 4 ppm to be in consideration
fleet oracle
thinking about transfer plans up till gw7
I assume you have 0 itb at the end of this?
lavish parcel
Some of the transfers could be done weekly
He isn't doing all those at once
Very low chance that is affected by the price gain and loss unless Foden plays GW2 and gets 15 points
fleet oracle
Also, I have 2 drafts, one with Salah, one without, I think if you go Salah you are locking into a WC6, whereas if you go without you can maybe extend it beyond
lavish parcel
Not necessarily
Salah and a cheap mid can be changed to any 2 midfielders in the game
I have seen teams with Salah opting for long term wc
Just gotta be flexible
fleet oracle
If I don’t make any other transfers I won’t have to take hits:
Murphy -> Minteh ...
I’m referring to this plan.
Eg, if jota or diaz, or both suffer a fall gw6, then he can’t transfer them gw8 like he want to in his plan.
Or if he was to make a transfer later on in the week for Isak>wissa and kneejerkers have already created a +0.1m for wissa and -0.1 for Isak, that’s a 0.2m loss at the price of extra days before transfers are made
lavish parcel
Again, he is not doing all the transfers at once
fleet oracle
Salah and a cheap mid can be changed to any 2 midfielders in the game
True. And no lack of quality cheep mids
lavish parcel
I’m referring to this plan.
Eg, if jota or diaz, or both suffer a fall gw6, the...
There will always be kneejerkers and casuals affecting the price changes
Doesn't mean you're plans are ruined
He is trying to get to them before everyone who wc6, so it's gonna be the same week too
Should he choose to do it after gw5
fleet oracle
Are you on salah or no atm?
lavish parcel
I don't have Salah
oak furnace
Wtf my messages didn't send
oak furnace
Anyway my point was in other years I've let early price changes effect my decisions
fleet oracle
I had him in almost all my drafts, until I made a draft without him that looked so nice
lavish parcel
I have Saka and Son instead who provide me pathways to Foden/KDB if needed + variety of captaincy options
fleet oracle
Anyway my point was in other years I've let early price changes effect my decisi...
I remember one year chilwell went up twice in 1 gw and priced me out of him bc I waited. I brought him in the next week and he started the game and got injured, I lost 0.2m and a FT, it scarred me
lavish parcel
I have Jota, Murphy and Gordon who help me navigate through a variety of midfielders after gw5*
lavish parcel
Fair enough
fleet oracle
My brother is a Newcastle fan, and he said he would rather livra or hall play on the wing instead of murphy.
But not Almiron
lavish parcel
Almiron is on his way to mls
fleet oracle
Saw that
oak furnace
Murphy is very good
lavish parcel
Murphy has played on the right side all preszn and last 10 or games
fleet oracle
Is Joe willock still in contention to start?
lavish parcel
Livra and Hall are not playing anything except fullbacks
We don't know what willock is upto
But he isn't a RW
oak furnace
Either way I'm happy risk starting Murphy
Think he gets me to the first wildcard pretty well
fleet oracle
I’m surprised Harvey barnes isn’t getting more attention tbh.
lavish parcel
Barnes is a threat to Murphy should Howe choose to play Gordon on right and Barnes on Left
fleet oracle
From Eddie not fpl
lavish parcel
Not going Murphy wont hurt your ranks
But going with Murphy and if he hauls, you have a headstart
So less risk, high reward
Guess who Newcastle play gw1 compared to other 5.5m mids
fleet oracle
Only person I’d be tempted to swap him for is nkunku, but I’m only picking him for the 2-7 run and don’t wanna book a transfer early
lavish parcel
Southampton (worst defensive team who got promoted to PL)
fleet oracle
I suppose I could go very agressive early and go murph gw 1 into nkunku gw2
lavish parcel
It's upto you
fleet oracle
That also would mean if nkunku isn’t it, but eg madueke looks hot, I can swap to him instead without it being a sideways move
lavish parcel
Chelsea for me are wait and watch
oak furnace
I suppose I could go very agressive early and go murph gw 1 into nkunku gw2
Waste of a free transfer
lavish parcel
They didn't look good all preszn and first 3 don't look good
fleet oracle
Waste of a free transfer
That was my initial thought, but now I’m considering being really aggressive
Only have porro for 1-2
oak furnace
Only have porro for 1-2
Yeh so how many transfers are you gonna be wasting
fleet oracle
I should be ok to bench porro for arsenal and newcastle. Unless injuries
Brighton signing that Kadioglu really doesn’t do my team any good
cedar hull
cedar hull
Adjusted bonus against non pen expected returns
cedar hull
Defenders look so bad
Yeah the bonus have hurt them a lot
oak furnace
This is why odegaard and Bruno are priced at 8.5
lavish parcel
Might downgrade Saka to Odegaard to free up cash
oak furnace
There's a reason I still own Salah
lavish parcel
Haaland vs Salah debate is still on?
Both have pens, both have nice xgi with and without pens
But that was last year under Klopp
cedar hull
It seems to be haaland Vs haaland and salah rn
Salah only teams seemed to regress a fair bit
lavish parcel
Haaland + Salah limits you to early wc ngl
oak furnace
I usually early wildcard anyway
lavish parcel
I wanna have a flexibility to compete with those wc6 teams in the long run
oak furnace
Where are you gonna wildcard
lavish parcel
Wc12 is the plan
oak furnace
Why there
lavish parcel
Third IB*, final games of the group stage of UEFA nations league
Important final games of Europe group stages* ( UCL, UEL,CL)
Lots of fixtures turning
Easy triple up on Arsenal
Nice newcastle fix + spurs fix
Brighton double up
Chelsea might be either without Maresca or Maresca ball is adapted
Until then, I can use my FTs looking that the majority of wc teams
And play accordingly
slim bane
<@231018137699483648> that all looks good but 1 or 2 bad price rises/falls and t...
just a rough plan ofc
lavish parcel
Imagine having Trent after Klopp left
cedar hull
Geertruda 8g 5a
lavish parcel
Eredivisie tax
cedar hull
Player quality tax
oak furnace
Gvardiol to porro
lavish parcel
Gvardiol is a long term pick I think
cedar hull
Geertruida better than Taa
Taa hater
lavish parcel
I don't hate him
cedar hull
Gvardiol to porro
Porro so short term tho
lavish parcel
I would rather have my team built properly
cedar hull
What even is your team
oak furnace
Porro so short term tho
That's fine
oak furnace
Muric 
cedar hull
That team is so eh
oak furnace
Damn muric was at City
Lmao he had 0 clean sheets in the prem last year
But averaged 4.7 points per batch
lavish parcel
Now look at his saves %
cedar hull
Pen save skews everything
lavish parcel
Atleast he knows how to save one
lavish parcel
Long way to go
oak furnace
i just dont see how u can start a goalie who has liverpool and city in his first 2
lavish parcel
Long way to go
oak furnace
stop saying that
oak furnace
would rather get him in after the first 2
lavish parcel
Why bother changing gk
oak furnace
to avoid shit fixtures
lavish parcel
It's a gk bro
Tough opps means more saves points
More goal conceded too but he saves a lot
lavish parcel
I bet he gets atleast 7 saves against Liverpool
slim bane
change it on wc if needed
oak furnace
I bet he gets atleast 7 saves against Liverpool
is slicker the backup gk?
lavish parcel
After the first 2, he doesn't face any of the top 6 teams until gw10
lavish parcel
is slicker the backup gk?
Bentley from Wolves
Although I like the name
Might change it
oak furnace
i actually like what muric did last year
4.7ppm even with an own goal
is there anywhere to see last seasons data match by match
slim bane
idk
oak furnace
if i want munoz i think i might go muric
This is what I've ended up with if I go no Salah
Quansah Robinson and nkunku are the ones in fiddling with
What do you think? @slim bane
slim bane
Looks decent
oak furnace
I still don't know what to think of nkunku
Could go to murphy
Then get porro over quansah
slim bane
Gordon Murphy gang
slim bane
Gordon Murphy gang
hivemind innit
oak furnace
Pretty much
slim bane
hivemind innit
Wrong reply
oak furnace
I know
oak furnace
i know
prime plinth
where solanke
My anime lover
lone glade
My anime lover<:pog:608271967686098944>
prime plinth
He's not going to start though
latent depot
Ange said he's in contention, which people chose to interpret as he's starting, but that's just confirmation bias
it's not clear at all, but he'll prob be asked again at the presser
slim bane
where solanke
in gw6 for isak maybe
latent depot
only change that I've made to my squad from Saturday is Winks to Sangare. could say I've been locked for days now if you ignore my brief flirt with no Salah, only to rule out all the 9.5-10.5 mids and didn't like how else I could spend the money, so reverted back
umbral zinc
i lowkey need that diversity in my side
got too many red shirts
but sangare is obviously better for what i need my 4.5 to do
unless winks returns gw1 which i definitely do not expect
oak furnace
Ange will be honest about whether he starts or not I think
He's usually good like that
What's the appeal of sangare?
broken patio
So many people benching Barco GW1 <:peepoSmile:937329542480154705>
Im so ready for the haul
broken patio
Does Estu play RB at all
Nah only ever played lb or LW for us (he was shit at LW)
latent depot
sangare is tempting
if Barco plays GW1-5 my 1st sub rotation will be Sangare BOU (H)/HB NFO (H)/Sangare WOL (H)/Robinson WHU (H)/HB IPS (H) 🤓 think Sangare has a reasonable shot at 3 points, especially with some % of getting subbed. Winks is playing 90 with a ceiling of 2
broken patio
Is sangare nailed though
latent depot
played every game in pre, started final 2 and played 66 + 57 
broken patio
umbral zinc
And with Winks being so highly owned, a drop to 4.4 wouldn't be out of the question
latent depot
I see him in predicted lineups and he's worth 30M euros allegely on Transfermarkt
umbral zinc
Sangare is good, he was good in the eredevise
umbral zinc
Was linked to clubs a lot better than Forest
latent depot
[ready to start]?? isn't that editorialising?
latent depot
I expect him to start, but I don't think it's more likely than say... 75% so give him a yellow flag as we know most yellow flagged players start most of the time
it's just a disaster if you pick him and he doesn't start
oak furnace
I'm currently just sat on this
Only part I'm not sure on is probably that bobb/Murphy/Rogers and then Robinson/barco/thb
Should be able to field Murphy/Bobb gw1/2 then bobb/Rogers gw3 potentially
prime plinth
Ange said he's in contention, which people chose to interpret as he's starting, ...
He literally said Kulu won't be st. Mentioned Solanke didn't need time because he had a full preseason and fits the system.
Also Richy hasn't played a single minute
It is highly likely Solanke is the gw1 starter
umbral zinc
I'm pretty sure Solanke will start gw1 but its not an absolute certainty
prime plinth
Neither is Jota
umbral zinc
I reckon we'll get more information on that at his next presser tho he'll be asked
Jota has insane upsdie that Solanke doesn't
They are not the same
umbral zinc
What does Jota even have to do with it, they are two seperate players
violet temple
Jota will start gw 1 I reckon but solanke I'm gonna wait for the press conference of ange should give a clear picture
umbral zinc
You can have both, you can have 1, you can have neither
prime plinth
Richy and Son both scored at a high rate and Solanke has much better qualities to Richarlison in the role
umbral zinc
I think Solanke will do well and he's still in consideration for my team but I would pick Jota over him
prime plinth
That is fine. I don't dislike Jota. If people want to suggest Solanke is a doubt. Go without him. Gw3-4 isn't exactly must have
umbral zinc
Solanke is great, I think hes a decent striker and spurs create a ton of chances for the striker in their system
I just dont like those fixtures 3-4 otherwise I'd be all over it
oak furnace
People forget spurs Arsenal last year was 2-2 they can easily score
prime plinth
I intend to move to Watkins if that presents
I think Solanke is my outlet to go without Haaland
oak furnace
Same
prime plinth
Idm Wood but I just don't trust Forest to outplay Bournemouth
Easier to hold Solanke if need be as Tottenham are close to fixture proof in an attacking sense
I do expect it to be Watkins in for gw3 though
I'm really keen on Watkins for that run despite his over performance last season
prime plinth
Yeah Bobb is one I'm just going to wait on. Idk if he has enough ceiling to be taking up an attacking spot for me personally
Highly talented. Shown attacking potential. Just not the type of player I want to start with this season
latent depot
Yes, Grealish/Bilva/Doku have shown that starting on the wings for City doesn't mean guaranteed points
latent depot
WC6 so much simpler