Short new intro in my latest video

[merry rampart]

Does the short intros I just added in my video first time bothers anyone, or it does add to the experience? also does the first few seconds of music loops play well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJM7fnX_k68

[hardy lance]

A 12 second nameplate intro is excessively too long, IMO.

Those intros are honestly kind of a thing of the past, it really should be under 5 seconds or less if you don't want to absolutely kill your retention rate

[merry rampart]

a vaporwave music video with pixel art style

[merry rampart]

about the past... well that's my goal to make it look something from past... but you are true about the retention rate
any idea about how I can balance it?

hmm
any idea how can I make a balance between both?

[hardy lance]

That's perfectly fine to make it look like it's in the past, but I'd make the nameplate 3-5 seconds

[merry rampart]

thanks
I'll try to make it shorter next time

[hardy lance]

Depends on your style they may be willing to take the slight retention drop

[hardy lance]

If anything, keep this, and have the text to speech thing read out your name, and have it end after 3-4 seconds, drop the "Nicsan presents"

[merry rampart]

I want it feels like an old glitched found footage of something

[merry rampart]

great idea

[hardy lance]

You should see some of my intros, some of them absolutely break every rule about what creators are "supposed to do" xD

just because they break the rules, you can still keep high retention if it's done well

250K views, 75%/30 seconds and I don't speak at all for half of that which is supposed to be a big nono

This is getting into really dangerous territory but 70%/30 seconds and I don't speak at all for the first 42 seconds (55K views)

you're always gonna see that in long form videos with thousands of views

70%+ retention in anything longer than 5 minutes is good

[merry rampart]

also another question
in you opinion how can I make the first few seconds looks more alive visually( I mean for the CRT looking nicsan logo)

[hardy lance]

I don't try to be as risky anymore, but I still do unconventional openings because i have a knack for it and the retention charts don't lie, but if you can get a 70%+/30s retention on a video whatever you're doing is good

I just think since Big John is doing something very unconventional, can't really hurt to go all in on the aesthetic if it's done correctly

ofc the hard part is doing it correctly, but that's something that's learned with experience and practice

[hardy lance]

Honestly not sure, I've only tried a nameplate intro once and it never stuck, but I you probably wanna just experiment with whatever graphical effects stuff your video editor has

[merry rampart]

hmm
I'll try to play with its tools to see

thanks for your honest opinions

I was thinking about a 3D glitched logo as well
still trying to learn the blender

[grand valley]

Intros are bad

Don't do them

[hardy lance]

tho @merry rampart should know to never really trust any advice you get 100%, everything i say, and everyone else here says tends to be anecdotal unless backed up with evidence. But when you're a small channel you can experiment with stuff however you like and it's not really ever gonna shadow ban your content or do anything permanently irreversible

[merry rampart]

sure let me find it

[hardy lance]

this case is a bit different

[grand valley]

I see that now

[merry rampart]

thanks
that was heartwarming to hear

[grand valley]

But I still think they're bad

Its not worth a 20 percent drop in retention

[hardy lance]

yeah but depending on Johns targeted audience it might not be as drastic.

And if it doesn't work out, John can just drop it

[grand valley]

He should try

[merry rampart]

it's really a common theme in vaporwave art style, to keep the viewer hanging or make them feel something went wrong in the production...

[hardy lance]

And with the YT editor you can even remove it afterwards if it doesn't really work out

If Big John was doing almost anything else I'd say absolutely don't do the intro but niches are niches :)

As a larger channel Im still able to experiment, but it takes a lot more time for the algorithm to shift an audience of 50,000 then say, 100

a few weeks/ month maybe if I drastically shift content

Yeah, Im actually about to do a major niche shift as well, although I've already been preparing my audience to enjoy my content less for minecraft and more for my style of video

[merry rampart]

the discord wont let me to upload it here (it's 8mbs) where else I can upload the opening?

alright

[merry rampart]

isn't it with the danger of shadowban for bigger content creators like you?

[hardy lance]

Big content creators scream shadow ban when they stop making content people want to watch, or more often their audience grows out of their niche, you saw it with a lot of those old Minecraft youtubers that got really big in 2012, the ones that went to Fortnite did perfectly fine while the ones that didn't change their content died, makes sense if you think about it

Huge channels with millions of subscribers do need to take a channel shift a lot slower though, they need to accommodate their audience because going cold turkey with the algorithm finely tuned for millions or 10s of millions of people is going to hurt real bad

This is why its way more common for youtubers to just make a second or third channel

that way you can accommodate two separate niches and not deal with the algorithm shock or whatever

[merry rampart]

I assume that means the growth of new channel will be faster than first one in retro respective ... thank you
that'll be useful for me in the future

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eo7UqXEXjH1dZHwRx-OIGbxfRDeQkd7Y?usp=sharing

does the link works?

thanks 🙂