#Penetration enchant bug

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lucid mural
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There seems to be an issue with sentient scythes AOE ability and Penetration 1-5.

Here is a video posted by Visnox:

viscid sand
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same with spartan sweep afaik

wind bluff
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god damn the penetration enchant just sucks ass lmao

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all it does is just ruin ur weapon

lucid mural
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Seems to be the case.

indigo forum
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BS penetration already has a fix in latest rlmixins

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its just post-2.9.3

viscid sand
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so its still magic dmg or no

remote pelican
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Do we even really need penetration? Assuming it makes 70% final damage into magic that'd still be worse than RP:C unless using weird magic focus strats.

viscid sand
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we had that suggestion before, apparently shiv wants it for variety

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and i mean it would be fine if it wouldnt interfere with so much stuff and didnt do magic dmg

remote pelican
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If it still is magic and works based on final damage you'd use it with magic focus potions. If it's literally just a worse rune piercing capabilities I never see it getting used as low % armour piercing can still reduce damage.

viscid sand
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well ppl use it bc they dont know 🤓

lucid mural
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I feel if that is the case, just rename it to "magic piercing"

remote pelican
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Assuming it's still 70% of damage at level 5, it's based on final damage, and remains magic damage (a lot of assumptions) then a weapon swing would deal 0.7 x 2.5 = 175% magic damage instead of a 100% damage swing with golden book wyrm armour. With magic focus level 3 from wine it'd be 227.5% damage per swing. (Then plus the 30% after it's gone through armour calc)

lucid mural
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:3 i likely the sounds of that

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Since I wanna main golden scale anyways

remote pelican
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I really like it too, but it might be too strong with magic focus potions. If it was only gold or golden book wyrm armour that'd be fine, as those armours can't last in lost cities at all, but the potion makes it too easy to gain that big of a boost to damage.

lucid mural
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Well since gold really is so weak, the damage could be an excuse to work within its limits

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Regular gold breaks on explosions, and golden scale takes awhile to get

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Honestly the name is just too misleading given the details.

river meteor
lucid mural
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Can be useful

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Depends on build

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Mainly use it with magic focused builds

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But yeah it is fixed, i believe

river meteor
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So it wouldn’t hurt to put it on my god cleaver

lucid mural
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The code states it converts up to 70% damage to magic typed damage. This is the main reason people disregard it as a usable enchant.

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It also broke alot

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But the fixes will make it usable

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I think we need to wait for 2.9.4 before using it though

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It should be safe on the cleaver now.

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Just no aoe weapons atm

silk isle
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Use this enchant for 1/3 healing D_

river meteor
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Bruv

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Trash then

silk isle
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Yep it’s not good on god weapons right now

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It will actually give u less damage

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If you one shot to mob you don’t get any healing at all

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And arc slash or sweeping won’t proc

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Also ash destroyer 2x damage only applies to the 30% damage

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So instead of having 2x damage you will have 60 + 70 = 130% damage

lucid mural
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Ouch, ew

lucid mural
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If there is a stupid way to beat myself to full health

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Best form of pain

silk isle
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Since it converts 70% of the damage to magic damage only the 30% of the normal damage actually gets the lifesteal enchant

lucid mural
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Holy shit that is busted

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What kind of spaghetti code is that

silk isle
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Idk

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And for some reason if u one shot the mob you don’t get healed at all

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I’m guessing the reason for this is because the 70% magic gets applied first then the normal damage

lucid mural
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Honestly this needs to be removed and just instead convert damage into magic damage for magic weapons.

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I can see it granting dnd style magic sword tag

silk isle
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This is very weird for a enchant called “penetration” and description of “partially pierces armor” or something like that

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Does all this funny stuff

lucid mural
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Yeah, explains why it does partial bypass though

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Magic damage bypasses armor

silk isle
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Yep

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Should be like magical edge or something

lucid mural
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I can see Fonny just slamming his head on the keyboard over this one.

silk isle
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yep D_

lucid mural
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Curious how fonny "fixed" it with how bad the code is.

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This enchant is so bad all over

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But can be amazing

silk isle
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I am using it in my hcc run so I can beat the game with 4 enchants D_

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It’s a pretty situational enchant that can be good in certain situations but just trash the rest

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Atleast right now

lucid mural
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Fair