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fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 4:40 AM

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But crazy to know there’s a better ending

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@late wyvern anim for max-si-d-01-03 0 1

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 4:41 AM

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Replay highscore traces for Sky! and DarkStuff? in MAX-SI-D-01-03 using palette plus:

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Am I seeing right that I was ahead after the wall before the bump??

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Something that is also relevant here. It is possible to lose time when jumping off of a wall when less than 0.1 units away but not actually touching the wall. How are supposed to accommodate this in RTA? Hell if I know

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 4:44 AM

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fickle ether Am I seeing right that I was ahead after the wall before the bump??

It’s hard to tell in this palette tbh

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You walljump a frame earlier than Sky, but his boost is better

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 4:50 AM

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I am ahead!! @zenith owl moleW

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 4:52 AM

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He landed earlier and got better acceleration

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 4:52 AM

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Terrible

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 4:59 AM

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I feel decently confident that you have the most optimal walljump frame

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I don’t see another frame being cleaned there

sturdy yarrow Jun 28, 2025, 5:01 AM

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fickle ether I *am* ahead!! <@156995792220061696> <:moleW:336279896055742474>

welcome to the MaxExperience™

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:05 AM

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supple zenith I don’t see another frame being cleaned there

Or maybe. Looks like you need another 1.5 units to the next frame. I guess it could be possible to get better boosts, more optimal airtime to potentially squeeze that out

sturdy yarrow Jun 28, 2025, 5:15 AM

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just avoid the friction frames or something

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:16 AM

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Unironically yes

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Or don’t if they give you better alignment for the head boosts

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:35 AM

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@late wyvern max scores for sky scraper

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 5:35 AM

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Interpolated highscores for sky scraper (MAX-SI-D-01-03) by Darkstuff:ansi 00: NateyPooPoo - 83.779020 01: Sky! - 83.771330 02: DarkStuff? - 83.768723 03: Eddy - 83.743469 04: vector7 - 83.713951 05: Slomac - 83.707329 06: YaxMin - 83.706347 07: Schmole - 83.700981 08: aight - 83.697321 09: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.697124 10: Wobert - 83.692276 11: _kkstrong - 83.689777 12: Hild - 83.687771 13: Kostucha - 83.687614 14: vertexv - 83.685029 15: CeramicBlue - 83.670910 16: SimVYo - 83.667291 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.666667[0m 17: pralkarz - 83.613661 18: auds - 83.478112 19: ekisacik - 83.424494Scores: 22.

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:35 AM

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moleYo

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Y’all also forgot to go for the optimal exit door entry just sayin

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 5:38 AM

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@late wyvern missing max si hardcore

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 5:38 AM

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ekisacik is missing 0 out of 5 highscore SI story top 20 scores for Max mappack.

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 5:38 AM

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:>

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(i took the sr 0ths too)

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(it was just sky on the first two columns)

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oh yeah, all the runs are deathless. in case you were wondering if i reset at all in the first half of any of these

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:45 AM

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i hadn't considered hardcore sr 0ths

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probably the only valid metric for time measurement lmao

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@late wyvern max scores for scraper

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 AM

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Interpolated highscores for sky scraper (MAX-SI-D-01-03) by Darkstuff:ansi 00: Sky! - 83.779145 01: NateyPooPoo - 83.779020 02: DarkStuff? - 83.768723 03: Eddy - 83.743469 04: vector7 - 83.713951 05: Slomac - 83.707329 06: YaxMin - 83.706347 07: Schmole - 83.700981 08: aight - 83.697321 09: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.697124 10: Wobert - 83.692276 11: _kkstrong - 83.689777 12: Hild - 83.687771 13: Kostucha - 83.687614 14: vertexv - 83.685029 15: CeramicBlue - 83.670910 16: SimVYo - 83.667291 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.666667[0m 17: pralkarz - 83.613661 18: auds - 83.478112 19: ekisacik - 83.424494Scores: 22.

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 AM

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lol

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we're definitely nearing the zenith

tranquil fiber Jun 28, 2025, 5:54 AM

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So when do the full-tab speedruns start

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:55 AM

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could be interesting

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it'd be fun if it was like a head to head race

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:55 AM

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Man there are some run killers toward the end though

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SV’s going downhill, maybe not so bad with some practice

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Maybe I’ll do one tomorrow

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 6:14 AM

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tranquil fiber So when do the full-tab speedruns start

Honestly playing this has made me want something like Eon (disambiguation) in N++

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Really long tab with framewar-style levels that you can only submit level scores to by completing a full tab run

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:17 AM

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EON is literally a long tab with framewar style levels

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Wait, the levels are short?

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Well yeah. I made them

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Ya boy makes short levels

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 6:17 AM

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-# Nevermind then!

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:18 AM

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It was really the OG framewar tab, but I failed to market it as such

sturdy yarrow Jun 28, 2025, 6:23 AM

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in my imo it would be a little too big for a framewar tab

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:27 AM

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For community level competitive highscoring certainly

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But the average size of the levels is on par with this tab, at least for speedrun mode

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My original plan for this tab was to only have 75 levels, to really concentrate the competition. But I’m glad we ended up with the full 125. Plenty of variety to keep things interesting

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:34 AM

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i should have made an actual cornercase level

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 6:34 AM

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im glad im the only one that did a bunch of 1 tile underhangs lol

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that wouldve been way too annoying otherwise

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:34 AM

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like the morsel one i made a while back

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since it floundered in classic

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:36 AM

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zenith owl i should have made an actual cornercase level

Cornercase currently isn’t supported by Nsim

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That’s why the one slomac submitted isn’t in here, otherwise it would have been

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:38 AM

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that is a true statement

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i do recall

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:39 AM

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One of these days we’ll push the update for Eki’s level moleSmile

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Not that anyone is gonna challenge that Bobio score

tranquil fiber Jun 28, 2025, 6:42 AM

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is that an hour-long gd level

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 7:03 AM

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tranquil fiber is that an hour-long gd level

yeah, it's pretty good

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it uses the entirety of "The Angel" by Cacola

business casual

The Angel, by Cacola

from the album The Angel, The Demon,

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don't worry, gd players also think it's insane someone charted something that long and had it turn out actually good

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the balancing in that level is pretty deliberate - the first 5 minutes was described to me as a "stamina check", the middle 45 is a pure consistency test (easy gameplay), and the last 5 minutes is the hardest part of the level by far

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yes, that's right, i am defending something that is intentionally backloaded. maybe hardcore mode did break me

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-# there is a triple spike (clean ~3f timing) at the very end, and multiple people have died to it

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 7:24 AM

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supple zenith One of these days we’ll push the update for Eki’s level <:moleSmile:947930721773...

Serious question - do you want to change the level?

pastel beacon Jun 28, 2025, 7:33 AM

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supple zenith It was really the OG framewar tab, but I failed to market it as such

The marketing as-is was perfect. Whilst it can be highscored, the journey element is the standout

sturdy yarrow Jun 28, 2025, 7:36 AM

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yup

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using ghost tiles to act like a scroller is pretty clever

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||also the palindrome column was very nice moleSmile ||

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 8:09 AM

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supple zenith Not that anyone is gonna challenge that Bobio score

Also, I tried to hit the double double underhang earlier and oh my god it's so technical lol

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you need to have speed coming from the previous jump, but not so much that you hit the block

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but the positioning is also so volatile

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 1:55 PM

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north barn Serious question - do you want to change the level?

Maybe it’s charming to have it in here like it is. If anything it’s a conversation piece

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 2:27 PM

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late wyvern Interpolated highscores for `sky scraper` (MAX-SI-D-01-03) by `Darkstuff`:```ans...

Wowow

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Am I wrong to think there’s a whole frame left to save though?

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If Sky was able to beat my score getting a worse walljump frame, I figure .783 and above must be possible

analog plover Jun 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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@late wyvernscores for max-si-c-1-0

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Interpolated highscores for garden warrior (MAX-SI-C-01-00) by Wobert:ansi 00: NateyPooPoo - 86.845209 = 01: CeramicBlue - 86.845209 = 02: YaxMin - 86.845209 = 03: Eddy - 86.845209 = 04: ekisacik - 86.845209 = 05: DarkStuff? - 86.845209 = 06: SimVYo - 86.845209 = 07: fantastic damag - 86.842777 08: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 86.839078 = 09: Sky! - 86.839078 = 10: Slomac - 86.838860 11: jp27ace - 86.836268 12: vector7 - 86.832705 13: Wobert - 86.832697 14: Schmole - 86.829218 15: vertexv - 86.828612 16: Kostucha - 86.798750 17: _kkstrong - 86.793524 18: pralkarz - 86.787658 = 19: Hild - 86.787658 = [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 86.750000[0mScores: 24.

analog plover Jun 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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unfortunately maxed 😔

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@late wyvernscores for max-si-a-3-0

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Interpolated highscores for crank (MAX-SI-A-03-00) by Darkstuff:ansi 00: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 85.559941 = 01: NateyPooPoo - 85.559941 = 02: Eddy - 85.559941 = 03: CeramicBlue - 85.559941 = 04: ekisacik - 85.559941 = 05: Sky! - 85.559941 = 06: DarkStuff? - 85.559941 = 07: SimVYo - 85.559941 = 08: fantastic damag - 85.556990 09: jp27ace - 85.556736 10: vector7 - 85.555952 11: _kkstrong - 85.550897 12: YaxMin - 85.550341 13: Slomac - 85.548123 = 14: vertexv - 85.548123 = 15: Schmole - 85.543269 16: aight - 85.539109 17: Hild - 85.534230 18: Wobert - 85.533883 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 85.533333[0m 19: aloading444 - 85.459782Scores: 24.

analog plover Jun 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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unfortunately maxed😔 😔

oblique bear Jun 28, 2025, 3:12 PM

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you still tied the maxes moleSwole

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 3:33 PM

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fickle ether If Sky was able to beat my score getting a worse walljump frame, I figure .783 a...

That said I’m having less and less fun going for it

north barn Jun 28, 2025, 4:25 PM

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supple zenith Maybe it’s charming to have it in here like it is. If anything it’s a conversati...

That's what I was thinking :)

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 4:27 PM

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fickle ether That said I’m having less and less fun going for it

I threw like 900 attempts at the level just trying to barely pass natey, that .779 has to be damn near the limit

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:01 PM

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But is my reasoning for why there is another frame wrong?

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Your reasoning is fine, but maybe jumping a frame late isn’t that suboptimal

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Maybe it lets you land sooner and get more acceleration or something

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 5:04 PM

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analog plover unfortunately maxed😔 😔

No juicy unmaxes today. Thanks for confirming these moleThanks

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:06 PM

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supple zenith Maybe it lets you land sooner and get more acceleration or something

That would make me think that the advantage of jumping a frame later would have to do with sub-unit positioning, about where you are when you enter air-time and start falling, and thus that there could still be an optimal way to fall on the sooner frame

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Unless the suggestion here is that waiting on the wall for a single frame might even be optimal

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:06 PM

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you might be able to do something if you jump into the wall on your way to the right instead of just falling

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idk for sure tho

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about to stream some max tab if you wanna talk while watching pov

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https://twitch.tv/xSkylighter

Twitch

xSkylighter - Twitch

ninja go brrrrrr

analog plover Jun 28, 2025, 5:13 PM

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supple zenith No juicy unmaxes today. Thanks for confirming these <:moleThanks:624028573891690...

Who said the day is over moleThink

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:14 PM

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zenith owl https://twitch.tv/xSkylighter

@fickle ether

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:18 PM

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I see it I see it, I'm at work so my capacity is limited

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Sorry :(

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Sounds cool tho

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I might tune in if you're streaming when next I get a chance

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:19 PM

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i'm on for another 3 hrs

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then work calls

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@late wyvern max scores for scraper

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Interpolated highscores for sky scraper (MAX-SI-D-01-03) by Darkstuff:ansi 00: Sky! - 83.782906 01: NateyPooPoo - 83.779020 02: DarkStuff? - 83.768723 03: Eddy - 83.743469 04: vector7 - 83.713951 05: Slomac - 83.707329 06: YaxMin - 83.706347 07: SimVYo - 83.705575 08: Schmole - 83.700981 09: aight - 83.697321 10: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.697124 11: Wobert - 83.692276 12: _kkstrong - 83.689777 13: Hild - 83.687771 14: Kostucha - 83.687614 15: vertexv - 83.685029 16: CeramicBlue - 83.670910 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.666667[0m 17: pralkarz - 83.613661 18: auds - 83.478112 19: ekisacik - 83.424494Scores: 23.

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:19 PM

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so close to the next frame

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Oh SHIII

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:O

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:21 PM

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this is why i wanted you to tune in :P

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playing this right now

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:25 PM

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@zenith owl Yea easier to just talk here and I'll engage by joining you in the level

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Ain't no WAY we don't got the next frame

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:26 PM

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das fair

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Every attempt the first two corner bumps are perfect that I lose to stupid bullshit is tragic

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Improvement!

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.776

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:42 PM

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nice

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:44 PM

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I do get many .783s in-game now

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Got a .767 that should NOT have been a .767 that makes me think that could have been it if I hadn't flubbed the end

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Improvement, .777

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Oh!

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@zenith owl I got it :)

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@late wyvern anim slow for max-si-d-01-03 0 1

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Replay highscore traces for DarkStuff? and Sky! in MAX-SI-D-01-03 using palette plus:

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 PM

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@late wyvern max scores for scraper

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Interpolated highscores for sky scraper (MAX-SI-D-01-03) by Darkstuff:ansi 00: DarkStuff? - 83.783478 01: Sky! - 83.783045 02: NateyPooPoo - 83.779020 03: Eddy - 83.743469 04: vector7 - 83.713951 05: Slomac - 83.707329 06: YaxMin - 83.706347 07: SimVYo - 83.705575 08: Schmole - 83.700981 09: aight - 83.697321 10: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.697124 11: Wobert - 83.692276 12: _kkstrong - 83.689777 13: Hild - 83.687771 14: Kostucha - 83.687614 15: vertexv - 83.685029 16: CeramicBlue - 83.670910 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.666667[0m 17: pralkarz - 83.613661 18: auds - 83.478112 19: ekisacik - 83.424494Scores: 23.

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Holy mackerel

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:51 PM

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why is it still displaying as .783

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lol

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Because it rounds to that

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 5:52 PM

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man how tf

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 5:53 PM

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:D

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Our runs look nearly identical

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 6:01 PM

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Yeah it would be an .800 in game, but it rounds down to 783 here lol

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:13 PM

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OOOOH no.

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:13 PM

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i still haven't gotten the .8 yet

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:13 PM

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@zenith owl It's true, I was just testing it and it's true.
You can, at full speed, get another corner bump off of the tiny alcove corner.

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And land.

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:13 PM

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zenith owl i still haven't gotten the .8 yet

Oh shit you're right, that's what you were saying

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HUh

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

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.800 finally, still behind tho

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@late wyvern max scores for scraper

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

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Interpolated highscores for sky scraper (MAX-SI-D-01-03) by Darkstuff:ansi 00: DarkStuff? - 83.783478 01: Sky! - 83.783368 02: NateyPooPoo - 83.779020 03: Eddy - 83.743469 04: vector7 - 83.713951 05: Slomac - 83.707329 06: YaxMin - 83.706347 07: SimVYo - 83.705575 08: Schmole - 83.700981 09: aight - 83.697321 10: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.697124 11: Wobert - 83.692276 12: _kkstrong - 83.689777 13: Hild - 83.687771 14: Kostucha - 83.687614 15: vertexv - 83.685029 16: CeramicBlue - 83.670910 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.666667[0m 17: pralkarz - 83.613661 18: auds - 83.478112 19: ekisacik - 83.424494Scores: 23.

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

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ayyyy

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Nice

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

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cleared it by 35 microseconds lmao

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:17 PM

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I'm still convinced there's a lot of time to save in this level

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:18 PM

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fickle ether <@156995792220061696> It's true, I was just testing it and it's true. You can, a...

AUGH i got it and panicked fuck

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:22 PM

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.784 :D

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:23 PM

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CURSE YOU

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:23 PM

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i didn't even use the extra corner

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i just played the very end corner smarter

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if you do like a three frame tap it's more optimal than a one frame bc more force into the corner

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i'm at almost 2k atts lmao

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:25 PM

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1440 myself

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:26 PM

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gonna work to clean up my dirtiest levels to get closer to eddy

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i have like 20 seconds to clean

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:33 PM

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I'm throwing in the towel for now as well

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Want to come back to it

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:33 PM

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fair lol

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level be rough

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arguably the tab in its purest form

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Thank you 💚

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When I heard of this tab, this and crank were exactly the types of things I wanted to make

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Honestly I am surprised more things like it weren't made, but the best level ever made is very much in the same vein

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:37 PM

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i'd argue janky kong is in that same vein

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:37 PM

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@late wyvern screenshot of janky kong

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 6:37 PM

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No MET matches found for janky kong.

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:37 PM

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@late wyvern max screenshot of janky kong

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 6:37 PM

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Screenshot for janky kong (MAX-SI-E-04-02) by Skylighter v1 in palette plus:

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:37 PM

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Oh yes

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Very much so

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(I haven't played the whole tab yet)

tranquil fiber Jun 28, 2025, 6:38 PM

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🤮

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🤢

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💀

fickle ether Jun 28, 2025, 6:38 PM

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(In fact I am not playing much of N++ because after the last biiig highscoring push, for CTP, my right wrist still acts up when I start highscoring again, after days of not playing)

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I'm actually very happy that sky scraper has no mashing, because it's all pure timing

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 6:42 PM

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still had me scraping lul

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 7:45 PM

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 7:45 PM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jun 28, 2025 (19:45) UTC. MIN: 53941.133.

00: Eddy           - 54495.155 (125)
01: Sky!           - 55341.131 (125)
02: NateyPooPoo    - 55455.039 (125)
03: Slomac         - 56155.074 (125)
04: vector7        - 56221.777 (125)
05: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 56325.557 (125)
06: vertexv        - 56377.055 (125)
07: YaxMin         - 56595.106 (125)
08: CeramicBlue    - 57318.447 (125)
09: aight          - 58414.963 (125)
10: Schmole        - 58487.170 (125)
11: Hild           - 58642.947 (125)
12: _kkstrong      - 59104.285 (125)
13: ekisacik       - 60164.296 (125)
14: pralkarz       - 61371.637 (125)
15: Wobert         - 65903.953 (125)
16: auds           - 68443.743 (125)
17: aloading444    - 69850.597 (125)
18: scottie1230    - 72609.110 (125)
19: Emmoji         - 89825.310 (125)```

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 7:45 PM

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there we go passed natey

muted scroll Jun 28, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Big cool club

somber shoal Jun 28, 2025, 9:12 PM

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@late wyvern scores for maxsic24

late wyvernBOT Jun 28, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Interpolated highscores for aplombs away (MAX-SI-C-02-04) by Skylighter:ansi 00: fantastic damag - 80.287524 01: Sky! - 80.280199 02: SimVYo - 80.251376 03: jp27ace - 80.235897 04: vector7 - 80.176712 05: Eddy - 80.145060 06: vertexv - 80.083491 07: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 79.975355 08: NateyPooPoo - 79.693396 09: YaxMin - 79.660502 10: aight - 79.658629 11: CeramicBlue - 79.588637 12: ekisacik - 79.571326 13: pralkarz - 79.537678 14: Wobert - 79.462661 15: Hild - 79.457242 16: Slomac - 79.445236 17: _kkstrong - 79.360141 18: DarkStuff? - 79.356334 19: auds - 79.337639 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 79.250000[0mScores: 24.

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 9:14 PM

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Yeah I didn't optimize this that much

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There is still an entire .1 in this

somber shoal Jun 28, 2025, 9:17 PM

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huh, i felt my run was clean

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unless i missed an innov

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I guess I could hit a few more corners but yeah, i'm moving on

zenith owl Jun 28, 2025, 9:23 PM

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you can get a low corner off the block before the exit switch and not have to slow down for the perp

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and that saves time

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I kept choking runs that got it so just took a run that got 0th

somber shoal Jun 28, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Oh yeah that's what I did

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By the way you don't need to hit the low cj in the middle, a 1tap does the trick

old lagoon Jun 28, 2025, 10:56 PM

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This keeps happening to me

supple zenith Jun 28, 2025, 10:59 PM

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The cost of cheater prevention measures

old lagoon Jun 28, 2025, 11:04 PM

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Has to be the highest speed corner clip I've ever seen

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and it happens so often

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Was it not sufficient to remove just the top block of each of these?

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I suppose it may be uglier

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 6:25 AM

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what?

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 6:31 AM

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Block on bottom, two one-ways up top

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 6:38 AM

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Eh, that would've made it harder

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Is that not what you meant? Perhaps I'm confused about all of this lol

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 6:55 AM

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It was

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 6:55 AM

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What would it make harder?

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Less leniency to collide and potentially get corrected away from inside the wall

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Having it as full oneways is better, I just considered for a moment the what-if half of it was solid to prevent clipping

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Really? I woulda thought the downward facing one-ways were essentially "wider"

sturdy yarrow Jun 29, 2025, 9:38 AM

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@split patio moleHyper

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new start at @late wyvern screenshot of maxsic13

late wyvernBOT Jun 29, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Screenshot for you died (MAX-SI-C-01-03) by Slomac v1 in palette vasquez:

sturdy yarrow Jun 29, 2025, 9:39 AM

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saves about 0.1s

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 2:22 PM

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tranquil fiber Really? I woulda thought the downward facing one-ways were essentially "wider"

-# Now I feel like I don't understand how one-way clipping actually works. All the sides are wider than they appear, yet somehow you can slip into the corners?

supple zenith Jun 29, 2025, 2:22 PM

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sturdy yarrow new start at <@535634130436620298> screenshot of maxsic13

God damnit yax I stared at this for a good 45 seconds wondering when it was going to start

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If you’re talking about an innov use anim, that’s what it’s for! moleW

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 2:43 PM

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north barn -# Now I feel like I don't understand how one-way clipping actually works. All t...

.....I have no idea, come to think of it

analog plover Jun 29, 2025, 3:03 PM

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The width of the oneways depend on the way the ninja is facing...

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 3:24 PM

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WHAT oh that makes sense

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I always thought the -++ clip-up think was just the margin of the oneways pushing you back up, I'm guessing it's both of these effects?

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 3:26 PM

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old lagoon This keeps happening to me

Wait but then how do you clip the corner here moving up and right?

olive nova Jun 29, 2025, 3:36 PM

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i think there's still a gap but you need to be moving quite fast to use it because otherwise the one way pushes you back

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 4:05 PM

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north barn Wait but then how do you clip the corner here moving up and right?

Are you familiar with the clip where you walk off a oneway corner, then turn around and clip through? You don't have to be walking off it, that's just the easiest and most consistent way to get the right angle. And that angle works for all directions of corners. The setup for this route just so happens to perfectly line you up to hit that angle at high speed

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 4:06 PM

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Something isn't adding up

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Yes, I know of that clip, but I'm also used to turning around and clipping back up onto the oneway, and now I'm wondering, does it get bigger or smaller when you turn around

olive nova Jun 29, 2025, 4:07 PM

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old lagoon Are you familiar with the clip where you walk off a oneway corner, then turn aro...

those work more easily because you're facing away from the center of the oneway

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it's bigger when you're facing the center

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 4:07 PM

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okay, so

olive nova Jun 29, 2025, 4:07 PM

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or have velocity towards it

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 4:07 PM

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how is it even possible when you face it

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 4:07 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

olive nova Jun 29, 2025, 4:07 PM

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olive nova i think there's still a gap but you need to be moving quite fast to use it becau...

,

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 4:08 PM

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I've done this exact clip from standing on the ground with just a normal speed jump into it

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 4:08 PM

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is it bigger than a tile or not

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why does placing it on the side of a wall extend how far down you can slide it

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 4:08 PM

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because the hitbox of the oneway is slightly bigger

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 4:08 PM

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right, so

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how can you clip a oneway while facing it

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if that's

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 4:10 PM

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So with the setup of the level/route, I think you're actually still facing left at the moment of hitting the corner

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Maybe?

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tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Uhh

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That's just a black screen for me

old lagoon Jun 29, 2025, 4:14 PM

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yeah that's a discord bug

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Happens to me sometimes

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 4:14 PM

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Nice love discord

north barn Jun 29, 2025, 4:15 PM

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old lagoon

oh, well that makes a lot more sense

analog plover Jun 29, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Phew, tough grind for that one moleSmile

somber shoal Jun 29, 2025, 5:14 PM

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???

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I got that like half an hour ago 😂 ggs

analog plover Jun 29, 2025, 5:16 PM

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How tf did I get that time droneXD

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skill level

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@late wyvernscores for max-si-c-4-1

late wyvernBOT Jun 29, 2025, 5:16 PM

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Interpolated highscores for illustrated litchritchure (MAX-SI-C-04-01) by NateyPooPoo:ansi 00: SimVYo - 83.825288 01: fantastic damag - 83.755113 02: ekisacik - 83.752829 03: vertexv - 83.752373 04: NateyPooPoo - 83.738007 05: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.724811 06: Eddy - 83.712756 07: vector7 - 83.676188 08: _kkstrong - 83.662725 09: aight - 83.648982 10: Slomac - 83.648130 11: Hild - 83.634931 12: CeramicBlue - 83.629089 13: Sky! - 83.586613 14: Schmole - 83.582559 15: YaxMin - 83.577116 16: jp27ace - 83.557392 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.500000[0m 17: auds - 83.368169 18: Wobert - 83.352413 19: scottie1230 - 83.336647Scores: 23.

analog plover Jun 29, 2025, 5:16 PM

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???

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I don't understand how this level works but I'll take it

sturdy yarrow Jun 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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@late wyvern anim for maxsic13

late wyvernBOT Jun 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Screenshot for you died (MAX-SI-C-01-03) by Slomac v1 in palette vasquez:

sturdy yarrow Jun 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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happy natey?

tranquil fiber Jun 29, 2025, 6:42 PM

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damn, that's slick

supple zenith Jun 29, 2025, 6:43 PM

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I realized exactly one millisecond after clicking it that I should check the wording.

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Nice try moleSmile

sturdy yarrow Jun 29, 2025, 6:46 PM

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well played

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 1:39 AM

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Huh, so that's faster?

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That's what I was originally doing in my first playthrough, but when it was beaten without it I just assumed it was slower and stopped doing it, guess I actually needed to clean it, lol.

old lagoon Jun 30, 2025, 1:59 AM

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well we all know that Eddy is famously unable to clean things very well, so it's only natural that this 0th isn't his

sturdy yarrow Jun 30, 2025, 2:45 AM

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for real

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they just letting anyone be grandmaster these days

muted scroll Jun 30, 2025, 3:13 AM

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True.

north barn Jun 30, 2025, 3:16 AM

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analog plover I don't understand how this level works but I'll take it

Counter-intuitively, cleaning the vertical movement is higher priority than cleaning the horizontal movement

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The way the route gets "squeezed" is quite odd indeed, and it's how I took a 0th at all

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Unless you mean that hitting the top of the slope at the end of each pass is somehow faster, in which case I don't know why

pastel beacon Jun 30, 2025, 1:08 PM

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is outte drunk?

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(anim vs screenshot)

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updated the giant steam guide for MAX

distant lion Jun 30, 2025, 1:18 PM

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time to download this

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and i might even stream honestly

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https://twitch.tv/nnexterr hop on if anyone wants ^^

Twitch

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distant lion Jun 30, 2025, 2:55 PM

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just played through it, was quite fun

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went by pretty quick

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id say i did pretty well for a first time

tranquil fiber Jun 30, 2025, 4:13 PM

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poor schmole

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 4:54 PM

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@late wyvern max slow anim 0 1 for downhill

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 4:54 PM

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Replay highscore traces for Sky! and vector7 in MAX-SI-D-04-03 using palette wyvern:

north barn Jun 30, 2025, 5:30 PM

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how are those angles that different

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:31 PM

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i jumped slightly higher + earlier at the start

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so i got more of a push off the slope

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skeptical if max, should be very close tho

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@split patio kinda curious, is there a way to calculate the combined frame total of all dev time requirements?

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wanna compare it to current sr sum of best

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:46 PM

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Sure, it's 61323 frames or 10230.033 seconds.

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:46 PM

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that was fast 😮

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:48 PM

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I know my way around a database

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:48 PM

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it would have been silly if we planned ahead and tried to make it a thousand seconds cumulatively

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(10230 is a typo lmao)

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Oh I meant the total score not the sr score converted to seconds

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:49 PM

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oh lmao

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:49 PM

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But yeah you're right that's awfully close to 1k seconds, damn

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:50 PM

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most of it could be saved in the very last level lmao

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if it were like 88.500 instead of 69.000 we would be way closer

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:50 PM

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Hard to anticipate it but it would've be a dope easter egg

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:51 PM

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i'm clawing closer to your SOB tho

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a little over 10s behind

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:52 PM

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The hardest 10 seconds though moleSmirk

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Plus, my total sr score is actually maxed, not worth contesting it

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:53 PM

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sees 10 potential seconds of improvement from community SOB

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it's not gonna get hard until I have about 4 seconds between us I think

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:54 PM

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Are you using the "worst" function?

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:54 PM

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no i'm just rawdogging it

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playing levels i liked

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will use worst at some point

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:55 PM

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Madman, but yeah not truly required until you want to really get down to the deets

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:55 PM

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like i said i think i can shave off six more seconds before i have to really start grinding frames

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this tab is awesome though

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one of the coolest things ever made for this game for sure

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frame interpolation + fun and interesting levels for the concept = recipe for greatness

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really feels like i'm playing a brand new intro tab (and i love metanet intro lol)

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 5:58 PM

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Yeah so glad we stuck through with the idea

tranquil fiber Jun 30, 2025, 5:58 PM

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it's really highlighted the collective insanity of our community

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 5:59 PM

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most tabs struggle to get a full leaderboard from what i've seen

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and this got one (or really close to one) within two weeks

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which is pretty crazy

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:00 PM

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Indeed, and most boards were full within less than a week in fact

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The issue that arose when the first board reached 20 scores happened in like day 2 or 3

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It's finally done, the Scores Around Mine leaderboard will now work like in the main game (but properly)

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Eddy once again straight up dunking on the meatnut server dev

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:08 PM

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split patio It's finally done, the Scores Around Mine leaderboard will now work like in the ...

they said it could never be done

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probably

old lagoon Jun 30, 2025, 6:09 PM

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Thank you Eddy

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Foolish question - why don't episodes have dev times?

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:11 PM

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They do, just bust out the calculator

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:11 PM

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eddy could probably math out all the level dev times and transpose those to the episodes

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:12 PM

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split patio Indeed, and most boards were full within less than a week in fact

I think this is a testament to the highscoring community showing up and doing our thing. Classic was also a major hit in that sense. Both of these tabs came with leaderboard novelty though so I’m sure that also contributed significantly.

old lagoon Jun 30, 2025, 6:12 PM

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Decent chance I'm not going to finish this tab, just like Clever

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:12 PM

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Agreed, they're similar in their milestoness

old lagoon Jun 30, 2025, 6:13 PM

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Oh you said classic

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:13 PM

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Nexter finished this tab in 1 hour and you're not gonna? moleSmirk

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:13 PM

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base clear or dev times

old lagoon Jun 30, 2025, 6:13 PM

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Either

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I get all dev before moving to the next episode

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So its both or nothing

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:14 PM

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split patio Agreed, they're similar in their milestoness

Still, I love the spirit in here. It makes me want to do another highscoring focused tab. If we wanted to continue with introducing novel mechanics we could do a blind routing focused one next moleThink

old lagoon Jun 30, 2025, 6:14 PM

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Also self route all devs (so far)

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:15 PM

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That’s the best way to do it imo

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:16 PM

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I blinded my first playthrough as well, pretty fun. Not sure how many dev times I had by the end though, didn't really push a lot.

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:17 PM

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supple zenith Still, I love the spirit in here. It makes me want to do another highscoring foc...

Yeah this is a cool idea that we exploited in the NReality days via protected and private leaderboards. In N++ we only experimented with it once in that contest nw ran years ago where we had to submit the attract files via email, lol.

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It could be done natively now, I already even have the protected leaderboard functionality implemented (i.e. no replays). Private ones (i.e. no scores) would be easy too.

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:19 PM

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zenith owl eddy could probably math out all the level dev times and transpose those to the ...

I can add this if you guys want. I thought about it, but since it hadn't been brought up I skipped it. I could even add it for columns if you guys dare moleSmirk

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:19 PM

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columns are all 0.000 anyways

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lol

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for sr score though could be silly

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:20 PM

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Yeah at least the score would make sense there

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:20 PM

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what's the command to see the sr scores for this tab's hardcore

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is that even built in

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Brb I’m gonna speedrun the tab and that will be the dev time

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Literally

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@late wyvern sr scores for maxsi0

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-00:ansi 00: ekisacik - 11784 01: Sky! - 14184Scores: 2. Cleanliness: 1656f.

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:21 PM

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we would have to add a clause for episode/hc dev times though, since the intent was completion is centered around level dev times

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:22 PM

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zenith owl what's the command to see the sr scores for this tab's hardcore

Is that what you meant?

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:22 PM

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yeah

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i was misordering it

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:22 PM

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That should also work

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@late wyvern max sr scores for si0

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 6:22 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-00:ansi 00: ekisacik - 11784 01: Sky! - 14184Scores: 2. Cleanliness: 1656f.

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:23 PM

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guess it has to be scores and not score

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lmfao

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:39 PM

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willing to stream more MAX highscoring if anyone wants to watch

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https://www.twitch.tv/xskylighter live with it rn

Twitch

xSkylighter - Twitch

MAX tab highscoring

▶ Play video

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FUCK there's an error in one of my levels

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@late wyvern screenshot of snap crackle hop

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 6:49 PM

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No MET matches found for snap crackle hop.

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:49 PM

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@late wyvern max screenshot of crackle

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 6:49 PM

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Screenshot for snap crackle hop (MAX-SI-A-04-01) by Skylighter v1 in palette wyvern:

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:49 PM

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one of the switches doesn't have all 4 doors

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that's a bruh moment

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completely ruins the level gimmick

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:50 PM

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Literally unplayable 😔

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:50 PM

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i only bring it up bc it's way faster

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:51 PM

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Yeah you're right, surprising nobody caught it before

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:51 PM

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ykw i'm not actually that salty

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the resulting fast route is kinda silly

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so i'm fine with it

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:52 PM

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split patio Yeah you're right, surprising nobody caught it before

I caught it before moleSmile

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As in yesterday

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:52 PM

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there's a free entire second of timesave in this now

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optimal route still requires the funny trick i wanted in this level

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@supple zenith just want it to be said the second i saw it i beat your score first try lmao

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:56 PM

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supple zenith I caught it before <:moleSmile:947930721773838386>

And kept it secret like a true ninjafarian

supple zenith Jun 30, 2025, 6:56 PM

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I enjoyed having a literally trivial 0th in max tab for a day

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 6:56 PM

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i'm improving back to front rn

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so it was gonna be on my radar

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 6:57 PM

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Dev scores for episodes and stories are up.

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Dev rankings and lists will continue to default to levels only unless otherwise specified though.

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 7:02 PM

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sloppy run but trick implemented

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84.500 seems optimal with a super clean run

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you should make the worst rankings interpolated too

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 7:34 PM

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Probably won't be relevant for most cases but it makes sense

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 7:34 PM

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@late wyvern max screenshot of gummy bear

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 7:34 PM

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Screenshot for SUPER twisty gummy bear! (MAX-SI-D-02-00) by w95559w v1 in palette wyvern:

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 7:34 PM

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fuck this level

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so unintuitive

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this level would be vastly improved with oneways lining the one-tile gaps

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 7:55 PM

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zenith owl it's not gonna get hard until I have about 4 seconds between us I think

i am at that threshold now

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gonna take a break, mentally drained after that sesh

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 7:56 PM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jun 30, 2025 (19:56) UTC. MIN: 53826.528.

00: Eddy           - 54416.405 (125)
01: Sky!           - 54685.762 (125)
02: NateyPooPoo    - 55423.330 (125)
03: Slomac         - 56155.074 (125)
04: vector7        - 56221.777 (125)
05: vertexv        - 56270.076 (125)
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 56282.695 (125)
07: YaxMin         - 56529.682 (125)
08: CeramicBlue    - 57310.945 (125)
09: aight          - 58414.963 (125)
10: Schmole        - 58487.170 (125)
11: Hild           - 58642.947 (125)
12: _kkstrong      - 59104.285 (125)
13: ekisacik       - 60163.980 (125)
14: pralkarz       - 61371.637 (125)
15: NEXTER         - 62601.855 (125)
16: Wobert         - 65903.953 (125)
17: auds           - 68443.743 (125)
18: aloading444    - 69122.804 (125)
19: scottie1230    - 72520.391 (125)```

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 7:57 PM

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subtracted around 600 frames though

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pretty solid

split patio Jun 30, 2025, 8:30 PM

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zenith owl you should make the worst rankings interpolated too

It's done

zenith owl Jun 30, 2025, 8:34 PM

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awesome

outer swift Jun 30, 2025, 10:04 PM

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@late wyvern max anim trace 0 5 11 18 for sie20

late wyvernBOT Jun 30, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Replay highscore traces for Eddy, NateyPooPoo, aloading444, and ekisacik in MAX-SI-E-02-00 using palette starfighter:

outer swift Jun 30, 2025, 10:04 PM

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love me some trace anims

fallow thorn Jun 30, 2025, 11:46 PM

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that's so sick

outer swift Jul 1, 2025, 12:28 AM

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k i'm done with attempting to get dev times on levels, at least for now

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i might come back later

oak gyro Jul 1, 2025, 4:38 AM

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jul 1, 2025, 4:38 AM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 01, 2025 (04:38) UTC. MIN: 53819.054.

00: Eddy           - 54416.405 (125)
01: Sky!           - 54685.762 (125)
02: NateyPooPoo    - 55423.330 (125)
03: Slomac         - 56155.074 (125)
04: vector7        - 56221.777 (125)
05: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 56256.772 (125)
06: vertexv        - 56270.076 (125)
07: YaxMin         - 56525.054 (125)
08: CeramicBlue    - 57175.433 (125)
09: aight          - 58414.963 (125)
10: Schmole        - 58487.170 (125)
11: Hild           - 58642.947 (125)
12: _kkstrong      - 59104.285 (125)
13: E L L S        - 59832.728 (125)
14: ekisacik       - 60163.980 (125)
15: pralkarz       - 61371.637 (125)
16: NEXTER         - 62601.855 (125)
17: aloading444    - 64794.263 (125)
18: Wobert         - 65903.953 (125)
19: auds           - 68443.743 (125)```

split patio Jul 1, 2025, 5:15 AM

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Nice, planning on aiming at those dev scores?

tranquil fiber Jul 1, 2025, 5:35 AM

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no

muted scroll Jul 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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All outte rankings somhould have dev scores

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What is the sum of all dev scores?

split patio Jul 1, 2025, 5:51 AM

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split patio Sure, it's 61323 frames or 10230.033 seconds.

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Surprisingly close to 1k seconds for sr

muted scroll Jul 1, 2025, 5:56 AM

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:o pralkarz is so close

north barn Jul 1, 2025, 7:25 AM

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split patio Sure, it's 61323 frames or 10230.033 seconds.

given the total starting score is 125 * 90 = 11250, that would pin the sr sum as 1019.967, since we don't have to account for gold :)

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most people that got all dev times probably have sub 1k

split patio Jul 1, 2025, 7:30 AM

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split patio Oh I meant the total score not the sr score converted to seconds

Yeah I expressly meant the total hs score, for those interested in checking those rankings.

north barn Jul 1, 2025, 7:31 AM

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zenith owl one of the switches doesn't have all 4 doors

ok my level not getting a patch is understandable but i kinda wish this could cause that seems really frustrating lol

split patio Jul 1, 2025, 7:31 AM

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As for going sub 1k seconds, one can also check those who are sub-60125 frames in the sr score rankings.

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Or sub-60k if we want to round, depends on how we want to compute time

north barn Jul 1, 2025, 7:33 AM

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late wyvern ## Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack -# __Date__: ...

-# let's say sub-60k so i have to do something

oak gyro Jul 1, 2025, 10:51 AM

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split patio Nice, planning on aiming at those dev scores?

Thanks! I will try and get some better scores today for sure

analog plover Jul 1, 2025, 7:26 PM

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@late wyvernhow many max dev

late wyvernBOT Jul 1, 2025, 7:26 PM

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SimVYo has 125 out of 125 over-DEV highscore level scores for Max mappack.

analog plover Jul 1, 2025, 7:26 PM

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done

supple zenith Jul 1, 2025, 7:30 PM

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@late wyvern max rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 1, 2025, 7:30 PM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 01, 2025 (19:30) UTC. MAX: 150.

00: SimVYo          - 38
01: CeramicBlue     - 26
02: Eddy            - 26
03: NateyPooPoo     - 18
04: YaxMin          - 15
05: Sky!            - 13
06: jp27ace         -  4
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  -  4
08: fantastic damag -  3
09: vertexv         -  2
10: Slomac          -  1```

sturdy yarrow Jul 1, 2025, 7:48 PM

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@late wyvern max average rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 1, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Rankings - Highscore overall top 20 average ranks for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 01, 2025 (19:48) UTC. MIN: 0. Min. scores: 0.

00: Eddy            -  2.167
01: SimVYo          -  2.720
02: fantastic damag -  4.277
03: Sky!            -  4.380
04: NateyPooPoo     -  5.107
05: jp27ace         -  7.505
06: YaxMin          -  7.777
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  -  8.014
08: Slomac          -  8.453
09: vector7         -  8.592
10: vertexv         -  8.685
11: golfkid         -  9.318
12: CeramicBlue     -  9.413
13: ekisacik        - 10.941
14: DarkStuff?      - 11.119
15: E L L S         - 12.000
16: _kkstrong       - 12.149
17: Kostucha        - 12.490
18: Schmole         - 13.540
19: w9555           - 13.722```

sturdy yarrow Jul 1, 2025, 7:48 PM

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7.777 moleHyper

viscid fox Jul 1, 2025, 9:05 PM

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zenith owl this level would be vastly improved with oneways lining the one-tile gaps

that was, funny enough, in the original level before i gave it to natey

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the reason i decided against it is because the tiny bit of extra hitbox makes it impossible to transition to the round corner dropdown

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and i like seeing people using the outside wall :p

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in hindsight it might be slightly better if i keep 1 way on like just one side but that's inconsistency in itself

supple zenith Jul 1, 2025, 9:39 PM

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While it’s not the best level for super optimal play, I thought the level was fun to route/navigate

somber shoal Jul 1, 2025, 9:49 PM

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something up with the game rn? I can't submit any scores atm

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never mind lmao

fickle ether Jul 1, 2025, 9:51 PM

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That happens sometimes on Tuesdays

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Due to Steam server maintenance

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I’ve lost a Metanet 0th (improvement, thankfully) that way
I make it a point not to highscore seriously on Tuesdays

somber shoal Jul 1, 2025, 9:52 PM

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I get that for the base game, just didn't expect it to happen with Eddy's server

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But anyways it's back

fickle ether Jul 1, 2025, 9:55 PM

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I think Eddy said he was unable to get around the game’s code requiring a connection to the steam servers to submit a score, he’s only able to hijack where the score goes after

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Not sure if that’s an outdated file and he was able to fix that, it’s been a long while

zenith owl Jul 1, 2025, 11:57 PM

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 12:02 AM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 02, 2025 (00:02) UTC. MIN: 53797.966.

00: Sky!           - 54415.357 (125)
01: Eddy           - 54416.405 (125)
02: SimVYo         - 54460.073 (125)
03: NateyPooPoo    - 55423.330 (125)
04: Slomac         - 56155.074 (125)
05: vector7        - 56221.777 (125)
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 56255.919 (125)
07: vertexv        - 56270.076 (125)
08: YaxMin         - 56494.558 (125)
09: CeramicBlue    - 57130.726 (125)
10: aight          - 58414.963 (125)
11: Schmole        - 58487.170 (125)
12: Hild           - 58642.947 (125)
13: _kkstrong      - 59104.285 (125)
14: E L L S        - 59112.791 (125)
15: ekisacik       - 59824.784 (125)
16: pralkarz       - 61371.637 (125)
17: NEXTER         - 62601.855 (125)
18: aloading444    - 64794.263 (125)
19: Wobert         - 65903.953 (125)```

zenith owl Jul 2, 2025, 12:02 AM

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i've done it

sturdy yarrow Jul 2, 2025, 12:11 AM

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time for sub 54

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moleHyper

zenith owl Jul 2, 2025, 12:18 AM

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like hell I'm saving four hundred frames from here lmfao

split patio Jul 2, 2025, 1:28 AM

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Sim is very close too

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Might go back and clean some more here and there.

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The community has also opened a 200+ second gap below 54k, nice

zenith owl Jul 2, 2025, 1:29 AM

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frame, not second lmfao

split patio Jul 2, 2025, 1:29 AM

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Oh yeah, lol

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So we're talking less than 2 frames per level of room moleHyper

split patio Jul 2, 2025, 1:30 AM

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fickle ether I think Eddy said he was unable to get around the game’s code requiring a connec...

I think this is still indeed the case. I don't even know how those communications work because I've never sniffed them properly, but the game connects to Steam first, probably to authenticate, and then you can talk to Metanet's server. If the Steam authentication isn't performed the game enters offline mode and doesn't even try to perform requests to the server anymore.

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Thus why you can see it entirely skipping the submission process as opposed to trying and failing, for instance.

zenith owl Jul 2, 2025, 1:36 AM

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my internet has been particularly spotty lately so that's been affecting me more than usual

fickle ether Jul 2, 2025, 1:50 AM

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split patio Thus why you can see it entirely skipping the submission process as opposed to t...

Which is incrreeeeeddibly lame

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If it just fails to submit, I can wait for the connection to strengthen

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When it doesn’t even try I throw a fit

split patio Jul 2, 2025, 1:56 AM

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Agreed, another complaint to Shawn filed ✅

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 3:30 AM

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I noticed that it invalidated my session at some point and it just started skipping the submission and global rank

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Restarting made it happy

old lagoon Jul 2, 2025, 3:32 AM

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Probably dropped connection for a bit

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 3:32 AM

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It's Tuesday so it checks out

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 7:12 AM

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@late wyvern max how many top5

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 7:12 AM

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ekisacik has 17 out of 150 highscore overall top 5 scores for Max mappack.

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 7:12 AM

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@late wyvern max how many dev

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 7:12 AM

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ekisacik has 82 out of 125 over-DEV highscore level scores for Max mappack.

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 7:12 AM

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good ratio

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wait thats actually way more dev times than i was expecting lol

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maybe i should just do a pass to clean it tomorrow

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 8:11 PM

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@late wyvern screenscores for max-si-e-00-04

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 8:11 PM

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Screenshot for diving upwards: the prequel (MAX-SI-E-00-04) by NateyPooPoo v1 in palette quench:

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Interpolated highscores for diving upwards: the prequel (MAX-SI-E-00-04) by NateyPooPoo:ansi 00: CeramicBlue - 79.784823 01: ekisacik - 79.755189 02: NateyPooPoo - 79.731236 03: fantastic damag - 79.730314 04: Eddy - 79.724198 05: SimVYo - 79.714504 06: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 79.640834 07: Sky! - 79.639102 08: golfkid - 79.617178 09: Schmole - 79.540783 10: Slomac - 79.538007 11: Kostucha - 79.527222 12: vector7 - 79.513816 13: YaxMin - 79.492875 14: E L L S - 79.420885 15: Hild - 79.398477 16: Wobert - 79.325326 17: DarkStuff? - 79.317414 18: jp27ace - 79.316463 19: _kkstrong - 79.266575 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 79.000000[0mScores: 28.

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 8:11 PM

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do you ever pull an insane run out of your ass

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i think i jumped .65 up to 01st LOL

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alright, first column clear, many scores i'm happy with

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i feel like i understand my current skill level as a platformer player. that being, the spot directly below the best

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like, i'm not on the level of ninz, eddy/bobio/sky, ayumirenko, etc. but i'm like at the top of the tier right under that

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i just have some physical and mental limitations i think that don't really enable me to play at the super super competitive level but that doesnt really bother me because i am good enough to understand them

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when the metanet servers are running smoother i feel like i could confidently take any top 5 i want except some of intro

olive nova Jul 2, 2025, 8:21 PM

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~~what about maxed levels~~

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 8:22 PM

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obviously there are exceptions

olive nova Jul 2, 2025, 8:23 PM

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boards also just have a ton of difficulty variance in general imo

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 8:25 PM

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i mean i agree theres a lot that have a random insanely difficult input as a entry requirement

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~~speaking of, i wonder if anyone else will replicate the end sinister skip someday. it's hard but it's not as hard as most of hardest~~

olive nova Jul 2, 2025, 8:27 PM

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it's hard because who wants to play that balancing

north barn Jul 2, 2025, 8:36 PM

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it's what i've heard referred to as "mentally difficult"

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i got motivated to do 2k atts to get it because of the fact that it's hilarious

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some inputs are Less funny though

olive nova Jul 2, 2025, 8:40 PM

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north barn ~~speaking of, i wonder if anyone else will replicate the end sinister skip some...

~~also, most of hardest = like, bramble or harder so that bar is like pretty high to do a 10 hour grind on something~~

sturdy yarrow Jul 2, 2025, 8:51 PM

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sometimes i get runs that i know im like never beating again

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like @late wyvern max screenshot of worm

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 8:51 PM

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Screenshot for would you still max me if I were a worm? (MAX-SI-C-02-03) by Slomac v1 in palette vasquez:

sturdy yarrow Jul 2, 2025, 8:51 PM

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im never spamming that fast ever again

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and ofc bob swoops in and milliseconds me

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@late wyvern max anim 0 1 for maxsic23

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Replay highscore traces for CeramicBlue and YaxMin in MAX-SI-C-02-03 using palette vasquez:

supple zenith Jul 2, 2025, 9:07 PM

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@late wyvern max rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 9:07 PM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 02, 2025 (21:07) UTC. MAX: 150.

00: Eddy            - 43
01: CeramicBlue     - 28
02: SimVYo          - 28
03: NateyPooPoo     - 15
04: Sky!            - 12
05: YaxMin          - 12
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  -  4
07: fantastic damag -  3
08: jp27ace         -  3
09: vertexv         -  2```

supple zenith Jul 2, 2025, 9:07 PM

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Eddy rampage

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Not sleeping on bobio’s tortoise push either

zenith owl Jul 2, 2025, 9:13 PM

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holy fuck eddy really is on a rampage

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-300f since last night

supple zenith Jul 2, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Sim had a cool 12 0th lead yesterday

old lagoon Jul 2, 2025, 10:07 PM

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zenith owl -300f since last night

Clearly you angered him

muted scroll Jul 2, 2025, 10:26 PM

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 10:26 PM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 02, 2025 (22:26) UTC. MIN: 53743.378.

00: Eddy           - 54121.073 (125)
01: Sky!           - 54415.357 (125)
02: SimVYo         - 54460.073 (125)
03: NateyPooPoo    - 55423.330 (125)
04: Slomac         - 56155.074 (125)
05: vector7        - 56221.777 (125)
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 56255.919 (125)
07: vertexv        - 56270.076 (125)
08: YaxMin         - 56450.132 (125)
09: CeramicBlue    - 56919.821 (125)
10: aight          - 58414.963 (125)
11: Schmole        - 58487.170 (125)
12: Hild           - 58642.947 (125)
13: _kkstrong      - 59104.285 (125)
14: E L L S        - 59112.791 (125)
15: ekisacik       - 59412.729 (125)
16: pralkarz       - 61371.637 (125)
17: NEXTER         - 62601.855 (125)
18: aloading444    - 64794.263 (125)
19: Wobert         - 65903.953 (125)```

somber shoal Jul 2, 2025, 10:29 PM

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@late wyvern screenscores for max-si-e-00-04

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 10:29 PM

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Screenshot for diving upwards: the prequel (MAX-SI-E-00-04) by NateyPooPoo v1 in palette vasquez:

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Interpolated highscores for diving upwards: the prequel (MAX-SI-E-00-04) by NateyPooPoo:ansi 00: fantastic damag - 79.792041 01: CeramicBlue - 79.784823 02: ekisacik - 79.755189 03: NateyPooPoo - 79.731236 04: Eddy - 79.724198 05: SimVYo - 79.714504 06: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 79.640834 07: Sky! - 79.639102 08: golfkid - 79.617178 09: Schmole - 79.540783 10: Slomac - 79.538007 11: Kostucha - 79.527222 12: vector7 - 79.513816 13: YaxMin - 79.492875 14: E L L S - 79.420885 15: Hild - 79.398477 16: Wobert - 79.325326 17: DarkStuff? - 79.317414 18: jp27ace - 79.316463 19: _kkstrong - 79.266575 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 79.000000[0mScores: 28.

somber shoal Jul 2, 2025, 10:29 PM

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oh

supple zenith Jul 2, 2025, 10:36 PM

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@late wyvern anime trace 0 1 2 3 for max-si-e-00-04

late wyvernBOT Jul 2, 2025, 10:36 PM

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Replay highscore traces for fantastic damage, CeramicBlue, ekisacik, and NateyPooPoo in MAX-SI-E-00-04 using palette Vasquez:

supple zenith Jul 2, 2025, 10:37 PM

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My route survived

analog plover Jul 2, 2025, 10:44 PM

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I don't think it's optimal but maybe it doesn't matter because of the bottleneck. Plus the alternative is annoying to execute

supple zenith Jul 2, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Yeah this one definitely feels the best imo

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I did mess with alternates on the bottleneck but decided it wasn’t worth it, at least at the time

somber shoal Jul 2, 2025, 11:06 PM

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I get a slight bump on the final jump which I think helps in some way

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It was err... definitely intentional

sturdy yarrow Jul 2, 2025, 11:27 PM

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zenith owl holy fuck eddy really is on a rampage

we shoulda released max when the semester was active

zenith owl Jul 2, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Honestly I already got my moment of glory

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I was ahead of eddy for a brief moment

old lagoon Jul 3, 2025, 6:01 AM

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@late wyvern anim max SI-D-1-0 6

late wyvernBOT Jul 3, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Replay highscore trace for golfkid in MAX-SI-D-01-00 using palette tr-808:

old lagoon Jul 3, 2025, 6:01 AM

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Is there no way to make that type of corner jump faster than just simply a double jump to the top?

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Seems very counter-intuitive

north barn Jul 3, 2025, 5:42 PM

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ive learned a lot about this game in the last week

somber shoal Jul 3, 2025, 9:27 PM

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wow d-02 is packed with bs

split patio Jul 3, 2025, 10:59 PM

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@late wyvern screenshot maxsid2

late wyvernBOT Jul 3, 2025, 10:59 PM

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Screenshot for MAX-SI-D-02 v1 in palette vasquez:

split patio Jul 3, 2025, 11:00 PM

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Oh yeah, rough one to highscore

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For the pack's standard, that is

split patio Jul 3, 2025, 11:04 PM

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old lagoon Is there no way to make that type of corner jump faster than just simply a doubl...

Well, consider that it doesn't help getting to the ceiling sooner as long as you're already able to reach it before hitting the slope, but it does help to reach the slope horizontally as soon as possible. The slope jump only gives you vertical momentum, but not horizontal one (||you can run on it but probably not enough to compensate?||), so it probably doesn't help if you can reach the ceiling without it, which you can.

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I experimented with it as well but this is my a-posteriori explanation.

somber shoal Jul 5, 2025, 3:45 PM

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jul 5, 2025, 3:45 PM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 05, 2025 (15:45) UTC. MIN: 53708.743.

00: Eddy            - 54013.118 (125)
01: Sky!            - 54415.357 (125)
02: SimVYo          - 54460.073 (125)
03: fantastic damag - 54809.719 (125)
04: NateyPooPoo     - 55423.330 (125)
05: Slomac          - 56155.074 (125)
06: vector7         - 56221.777 (125)
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 56255.919 (125)
08: vertexv         - 56270.076 (125)
09: YaxMin          - 56330.357 (125)
10: CeramicBlue     - 56919.821 (125)
11: aight           - 58414.963 (125)
12: Schmole         - 58487.170 (125)
13: Hild            - 58642.947 (125)
14: _kkstrong       - 59104.285 (125)
15: E L L S         - 59112.791 (125)
16: ekisacik        - 59412.729 (125)
17: pralkarz        - 61371.637 (125)
18: NEXTER          - 62601.855 (125)
19: aloading444     - 64794.263 (125)```

somber shoal Jul 5, 2025, 3:46 PM

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little overdue but finally done

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Thanks for the tab guys, had a really good time with this one

muted scroll Jul 5, 2025, 4:11 PM

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Wow Eddy gonna stop with 13 seconds left?

zenith owl Jul 5, 2025, 4:12 PM

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Everyone keeps saying seconds when it's frames 🙄

split patio Jul 5, 2025, 10:18 PM

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I'll push for it for sure, would've probably happened yesterday if it weren't for DDay

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Really wasn't expecting it to be plausible to accomplish just a few days ago

split patio Jul 5, 2025, 10:46 PM

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I still have to replay the last column episodes, I'm sure some level improvements will follow along the way, although I'm already starting to feel the consequences of these latest grinds on my index (jump) finger, lol. I guess I'm untrained for these sessions now.

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 1:49 AM

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@late wyvern screenshot of MAX-SI-A-02-02

late wyvernBOT Jul 6, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Screenshot for thousand elegant vectors through the vast sky (MAX-SI-A-02-02) by abho v1 in palette tr-808:

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Did anyone else get dev time with a lowjump here?

north barn Jul 6, 2025, 1:52 AM

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yes :) there's a few ways here

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actually i'm not sure if i did a lowjump or just a tap

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...wait, a lowjump where

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second jump right

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 1:57 AM

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Correct

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I have since improved with another route

supple zenith Jul 6, 2025, 2:34 AM

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@late wyvern max rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 6, 2025, 2:34 AM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 06, 2025 (02:34) UTC. MAX: 150.

00: Eddy            - 59
01: CeramicBlue     - 27
02: SimVYo          - 19
03: NateyPooPoo     - 13
04: YaxMin          - 12
05: Sky!            - 11
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  -  4
07: fantastic damag -  3
08: jp27ace         -  1
09: vertexv         -  1```

supple zenith Jul 6, 2025, 2:34 AM

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Damn Eddy

zenith owl Jul 6, 2025, 2:34 AM

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Shocked I only lost like two in that massacre

storm burrow Jul 6, 2025, 2:42 AM

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I'm shocked I still even have one left

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 2:51 AM

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What's the lowest fractional people have seen?

split patio Jul 6, 2025, 2:53 AM

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There are some instances that can cause a 0 to happen, but double digits is really low. I can check in the db.

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 2:56 AM

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I was kind of looking more for personal stories than a database lookup, but that's also cool

split patio Jul 6, 2025, 2:57 AM

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Hahah fair enough, thought you might mean that

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I have gotten double digits before, but I can't recall the lowest tbh

supple zenith Jul 6, 2025, 2:58 AM

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I had a 27 or 37 I think, Idk how to search in forum threads on mobile but I posted about it here

split patio Jul 6, 2025, 2:59 AM

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These are the lowest ones still on the boards, already in microseconds left till next frame, for those interested:

+----------------+-------------+------+-------+
| level          | player      | rank | micro |
+----------------+-------------+------+-------+
| MAX-SI-D-01-02 | vector7     |    7 |    16 |
| MAX-SI-A-03-03 | pralkarz    |   18 |    23 |
| MAX-SI-D-03-03 | Slomac      |   14 |    26 |
| MAX-SI-D-02-00 | scottie1230 |   22 |    29 |
| MAX-SI-B-02-04 | ekisacik    |   17 |    34 |
| MAX-SI-A-03-02 | NateyPooPoo |    6 |    37 |
| MAX-SI-C-03-02 | kkstrong    |   10 |    40 |
| MAX-SI-C-02-04 | aloading444 |   21 |    41 |
| MAX-SI-A-00-04 | golfkid     |    8 |    42 |
| MAX-SI-A-00-02 | w9555       |   23 |    42 |
+----------------+-------------+------+-------+```There are even lower ones if we include the obsolete runs, including a couple of 3's.

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 2:59 AM

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oh wow 66 isn't even my own lowest

split patio Jul 6, 2025, 3:00 AM

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And these are the highest ones, i.e. farthest from next frame:

+----------------+------------------+------+-------+
| level          | player           | rank | micro |
+----------------+------------------+------+-------+
| MAX-SI-B-00-02 | NEXTER           |   28 | 16661 |
| MAX-SI-A-03-00 | pralkarz         |   21 | 16659 |
| MAX-SI-C-02-01 | vertexv          |    5 | 16657 |
| MAX-SI-B-00-01 | NewGirl+         |   24 | 16656 |
| MAX-SI-A-02-04 | Emmoji           |   27 | 16656 |
| MAX-SI-E-03-00 | Hild             |   10 | 16653 |
| MAX-SI-D-03-01 | YaxMin           |   13 | 16643 |
| MAX-SI-A-00-01 | NEXTER           |   29 | 16638 |
| MAX-SI-E-04-03 | fantastic damage |    6 | 16637 |
| MAX-SI-A-00-01 | aloading444      |   26 | 16632 |
+----------------+------------------+------+-------+```

zenith owl Jul 6, 2025, 3:02 AM

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I'm on neither of these lists :(

split patio Jul 6, 2025, 3:03 AM

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As long as it's because you broke the next frame I think that's a winner ;)

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These are the closest 0ths to the next frame:

+----------------+----------------+-------+
| level          | player         | micro |
+----------------+----------------+-------+
| MAX-SI-D-03-03 | EddyMataGallos |   102 |
| MAX-SI-E-02-02 | CeramicBlue    |   266 |
| MAX-SI-B-00-01 | EddyMataGallos |   637 |
| MAX-SI-C-03-00 | SimVYo         |   880 |
| MAX-SI-A-02-04 | EddyMataGallos |   945 |
| MAX-SI-B-03-00 | SimVYo         |  1114 |
| MAX-SI-C-02-01 | EddyMataGallos |  1252 |
| MAX-SI-D-00-03 | CeramicBlue    |  1295 |
| MAX-SI-A-01-04 | SimVYo         |  1505 |
| MAX-SI-D-03-02 | EddyMataGallos |  1536 |
+----------------+----------------+-------+```

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And these are the farthest 0ths from the next frame:

+----------------+------------------+-------+
| level          | player           | micro |
+----------------+------------------+-------+
| MAX-SI-D-01-03 | Skylighter       | 16335 |
| MAX-SI-E-03-00 | EddyMataGallos   | 16245 |
| MAX-SI-B-00-03 | EddyMataGallos   | 16201 |
| MAX-SI-D-00-04 | fantastic damage | 16193 |
| MAX-SI-C-02-00 | YaxMin           | 16018 |
| MAX-SI-E-01-01 | Untamed Nim      | 15974 |
| MAX-SI-E-00-00 | NateyPooPoo      | 15824 |
| MAX-SI-D-00-02 | CeramicBlue      | 15810 |
| MAX-SI-A-03-04 | EddyMataGallos   | 15744 |
| MAX-SI-A-03-01 | CeramicBlue      | 15697 |
+----------------+------------------+-------+```

zenith owl Jul 6, 2025, 3:04 AM

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Oh nvm LMAO

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I assume my farthest 0th is sky scraper

split patio Jul 6, 2025, 3:05 AM

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Oh yeah, that one that caused confusion because it still showed as .783

old lagoon Jul 6, 2025, 3:05 AM

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Alright up to 60 devs now

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2 episodes tonight, and actually got dev time on the episode for both of them as well

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B-02 even got full dev times on first completion, all 5 levels

split patio Jul 7, 2025, 11:56 AM

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Got it:

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@late wyvern max sr score rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 7, 2025, 11:56 AM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 07, 2025 (11:56) UTC. MIN: 53691.178.

00: Eddy            - 53931.884 (125)
01: Sky!            - 54415.357 (125)
02: SimVYo          - 54460.073 (125)
03: fantastic damag - 54809.719 (125)
04: NateyPooPoo     - 55423.330 (125)
05: Slomac          - 56155.074 (125)
06: vector7         - 56221.777 (125)
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 56255.919 (125)
08: vertexv         - 56270.076 (125)
09: YaxMin          - 56330.357 (125)
10: CeramicBlue     - 56654.483 (125)
11: aight           - 58414.963 (125)
12: Schmole         - 58487.170 (125)
13: Hild            - 58642.947 (125)
14: _kkstrong       - 59104.285 (125)
15: E L L S         - 59112.791 (125)
16: ekisacik        - 59412.729 (125)
17: pralkarz        - 61371.637 (125)
18: NEXTER          - 62601.855 (125)
19: aloading444     - 64794.263 (125)```

olive nova Jul 7, 2025, 11:57 AM

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~~Saved 70 frames on the last improvement?~~

split patio Jul 7, 2025, 11:58 AM

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I had a whole column left to replay and waited until I finished to post it, thus why I knew I had plenty of wiggle room :P

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Also managed to do it in episode mode, just barely, which I'm perhaps happier about

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@late wyvern max sr episode score rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 7, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun episode scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 07, 2025 (11:58) UTC. MIN: 53691.178.

00: Eddy           - 53997.000 (25)
01: SimVYo         - 55015.000 (25)
02: Sky!           - 58876.000 (25)
03: E L L S        - 59248.000 (25)
04: YaxMin         - 59272.000 (25)
05: NateyPooPoo    - 60006.000 (25)
06: Slomac         - 60994.000 (25)
07: CeramicBlue    - 62300.000 (25)
08: NEXTER         - 62565.000 (25)
09: _kkstrong      - 62602.000 (25)
10: vertexv        - 63252.000 (25)
11: ekisacik       - 63533.000 (25)
12: aight          - 64267.000 (25)
13: vector7        - 64447.000 (25)
14: Schmole        - 66558.000 (25)
15: Hild           - 67278.000 (25)
16: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 67777.000 (25)
17: pralkarz       - 67880.000 (25)
18: auds           - 69546.000 (25)
19: Wobert         - 70484.000 (25)```

split patio Jul 7, 2025, 12:00 PM

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I was actually at 54006 when I finished going through all eps for the 2nd time, so I had go look for a relatively improvable one at the end to replay it

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Might try to nab a few extra level 0ths here and there but other than that I'm probably calling it on this tab

supple zenith Jul 8, 2025, 12:56 AM

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Huge GGs Eddy ninjavictory

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Doing it in episodes is even more crazy lol, awesome stuff

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 1:29 AM

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What happened to my MAX install?

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I didn't do anything, but now it's got the MAX levels but is pulling from the Metanet boards

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ok just ran the installer a few times and it's back

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That was bizarre

zenith owl Jul 8, 2025, 1:36 AM

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did you verify integrity of game files?

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 1:41 AM

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I did not

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I've done that before, that would not have left the pack levels in place

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 2:24 AM

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 8, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 08, 2025 (02:24) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: CeramicBlue     - 125
02: Eddy            - 125
03: fantastic damag - 125
04: Hild            - 125
05: NateyPooPoo     - 125
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
07: Schmole         - 125
08: SimVYo          - 125
09: Sky!            - 125
10: Slomac          - 125
11: vector7         - 125
12: vertexv         - 125
13: YaxMin          - 125
14: _kkstrong       - 124
15: E L L S         -  87
16: pralkarz        -  87
17: jp27ace         -  86
18: ekisacik        -  83
19: golfkid         -  75```

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 2:24 AM

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I've made it!

outer swift Jul 8, 2025, 2:25 AM

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aw man

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 2:27 AM

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I didn't knock you off though, it was Wobert

muted scroll Jul 8, 2025, 2:58 AM

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One day I’ll finish the tab

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 3:01 AM

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I probably will one day as well

gaunt ingot Jul 8, 2025, 4:04 AM

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Yeah dang, I had 74. Time to reinstall...

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Did you beat the whole pack or no?

gaunt ingot Jul 8, 2025, 5:46 AM

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I did base completion a day after it was released I think, and then I chipped away at the dev times for a week after or so.

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 6:06 AM

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ah I usually just do one, two episodes max at a time

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and I've only done 3 columns, so my 75 dev times are 100% of my completion

gaunt ingot Jul 8, 2025, 11:55 AM

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 8, 2025, 11:55 AM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 08, 2025 (11:55) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: CeramicBlue     - 125
02: Eddy            - 125
03: fantastic damag - 125
04: Hild            - 125
05: NateyPooPoo     - 125
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
07: Schmole         - 125
08: SimVYo          - 125
09: Sky!            - 125
10: Slomac          - 125
11: vector7         - 125
12: vertexv         - 125
13: YaxMin          - 125
14: _kkstrong       - 124
15: Wobert          -  88
16: E L L S         -  87
17: pralkarz        -  87
18: jp27ace         -  86
19: ekisacik        -  83```

gaunt ingot Jul 8, 2025, 11:59 AM

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And I've made it back! Fair's fair hehe

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Indeed it is

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eki will be safe for a while from me, not going to be able to play for the rest of this week for sure, and don't know when I'll be able after the weekend

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 4:42 PM

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ok I half lied

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Found time for one more episode, but that's not enough to overtake eki, and now I definitely don't have time

north barn Jul 8, 2025, 5:02 PM

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i still didnt actually do a second pass beyond the first and last column LOL

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shit is hard

old lagoon Jul 8, 2025, 6:31 PM

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I've only run into a few that were struggles to get dev time

zenith owl Jul 8, 2025, 10:37 PM

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@late wyvern anim 0 1 for max-si-e-01-02

late wyvernBOT Jul 8, 2025, 10:37 PM

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Replay highscore traces for Sky! and CeramicBlue in MAX-SI-E-01-02 using palette wyvern:

split patio Jul 8, 2025, 10:53 PM

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3 frames on what was already a clean run

zenith owl Jul 8, 2025, 10:53 PM

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main optimization is a new ascent at the very start

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i do a triple instead of a double and it carries me

split patio Jul 8, 2025, 10:54 PM

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I'd say main reason people hadn't implemented it is because it very often seemed unavoidable to get launched over the wall and into the slope

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I thought about it but discarded it for that reason

zenith owl Jul 8, 2025, 10:59 PM

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yeah you need like a one or two frame tap on the very last jump to stay under

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conveniently a skill i happen to have

supple zenith Jul 8, 2025, 11:04 PM

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Or jump into a DI moleThink

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Bobio replay in 3…

supple zenith Jul 8, 2025, 11:28 PM

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@late wyvern scores for maxsie12

late wyvernBOT Jul 8, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Interpolated highscores for hell's halfpipe (MAX-SI-E-01-02) by Slomac:ansi 00: NateyPooPoo - 84.393164 01: Sky! - 84.389638 02: CeramicBlue - 84.343100 03: SimVYo - 84.332468 04: Eddy - 84.328729 05: fantastic damag - 84.320859 06: YaxMin - 84.314884 07: vector7 - 84.250039 08: golfkid - 84.231092 09: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 84.220432 10: vertexv - 84.219183 11: ekisacik - 84.105388 12: Slomac - 84.084531 13: Kostucha - 84.008780 14: pralkarz - 83.740951 15: NEXTER - 83.730183 16: aloading444 - 83.724182 17: Hild - 83.719631 18: DarkStuff? - 83.719144 19: _kkstrong - 83.657957 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.500000[0mScores: 27.

supple zenith Jul 8, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Here let’s make it a little harder for him

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Next frame - 84.405

north barn Jul 9, 2025, 12:48 AM

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late wyvern Replay highscore traces for Sky! and CeramicBlue in MAX-SI-E-01-02 using palette...

i need to find out wtf kind of running up slope math sim was talking about

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theres a couple optimizations like this one where i am more or less guessing instead of discerning if it's actually faster

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 1:06 AM

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I don’t think there are many cases where it’s worth considering

north barn Jul 9, 2025, 2:41 AM

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there are at least like 3 in the first column

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 2:49 AM

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What I mean is that in the vast majority of cases jumping is better

split patio Jul 9, 2025, 3:14 AM

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split patio These are the lowest ones still on the boards, already in microseconds left till...

I just got an 11 microseconder

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@late wyvern scores for maxsic41

late wyvernBOT Jul 9, 2025, 3:14 AM

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Interpolated highscores for illustrated litchritchure (MAX-SI-C-04-01) by NateyPooPoo:ansi 00: SimVYo - 83.825288 01: fantastic damag - 83.825119 02: Eddy - 83.816656 03: Sky! - 83.797925 04: YaxMin - 83.764507 05: ekisacik - 83.752829 06: vertexv - 83.752373 07: NateyPooPoo - 83.738007 08: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 83.724811 09: vector7 - 83.676188 10: _kkstrong - 83.662725 11: aight - 83.648982 12: Slomac - 83.648130 13: Hild - 83.634931 14: CeramicBlue - 83.629089 15: Schmole - 83.582559 16: jp27ace - 83.557392 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 83.500000[0m 17: auds - 83.368169 18: Wobert - 83.352413 19: scottie1230 - 83.336647Scores: 25.

split patio Jul 9, 2025, 3:15 AM

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Almost thought it was an actual rank for a second lol

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Should be the lowest one in the boards right now

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 3:24 AM

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Nice lol

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 3:44 AM

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@late wyvern max rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 9, 2025, 3:44 AM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 09, 2025 (03:44) UTC. MAX: 150.

00: Eddy            - 69
01: CeramicBlue     - 26
02: NateyPooPoo     - 15
03: YaxMin          - 12
04: SimVYo          - 11
05: Sky!            -  9
06: fantastic damag -  3
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  -  3
08: jp27ace         -  1
09: vertexv         -  1```

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 3:45 AM

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Grabbed a few back today but Eddy is sitting here with a certified nice 69 so no one is going to care

sturdy yarrow Jul 9, 2025, 3:45 AM

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@late wyvern max episode ranking

late wyvernBOT Jul 9, 2025, 3:45 AM

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Rankings - Highscore episode 0ths for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 09, 2025 (03:45) UTC. MAX: 25.

00: Eddy - 25```

sturdy yarrow Jul 9, 2025, 3:45 AM

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i guess i shouldn't be surprised

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 3:47 AM

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@late wyvern Anim 0 1 for maxsib42

late wyvernBOT Jul 9, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Replay highscore traces for Eddy and NateyPooPoo in MAX-SI-B-04-02 using palette classic:

outer swift Jul 9, 2025, 3:47 AM

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yo that's my level

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 3:47 AM

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My run was clean AF but Eddy eked out the score by the grace of a single innov

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moleW

sturdy yarrow Jul 9, 2025, 3:47 AM

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welcome to highscoring

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you must be new here

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 3:49 AM

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That jump is nasty I don’t want to do it

split patio Jul 9, 2025, 3:56 AM

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It is quite inconsistent, hard to react fast when you finally get it :P But not horrible, worth it imo

sturdy yarrow Jul 9, 2025, 3:57 AM

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ugg thats the worst feeling

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you finally land the most luck trick ever

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and then you react too slow cuz you expected to screw up

supple zenith Jul 9, 2025, 4:03 AM

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Sometimes after landing a hard trick I suicide from muscle memory

sturdy yarrow Jul 9, 2025, 4:06 AM

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aiya

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too real

split patio Jul 9, 2025, 5:11 AM

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@late wyvern screenscores for maxsib40

late wyvernBOT Jul 9, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Screenshot for k (MAX-SI-B-04-00) by Slomac v1 in palette vasquez:

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Interpolated highscores for k (MAX-SI-B-04-00) by Slomac:ansi 00: Eddy - 84.251730 01: Sky! - 84.226443 02: vertexv - 84.221121 03: SimVYo - 84.219015 04: Nim "Mr. 0ths" - 84.213433 05: fantastic damag - 84.203944 06: ekisacik - 84.192578 07: Slomac - 84.186667 08: NateyPooPoo - 84.121026 09: vector7 - 84.041489 10: YaxMin - 83.985063 11: E L L S - 83.979788 12: auds - 83.965865 13: jp27ace - 83.919928 14: Hild - 83.834505 15: CeramicBlue - 83.305645 16: pralkarz - 83.130899 17: Schmole - 82.730331 18: aight - 82.665030 19: _kkstrong - 82.566262 [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 82.500000[0mScores: 25.

split patio Jul 9, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Got "a couple" more frames here the other day, wonder how much is left for the final bottleneck

zenith owl Jul 10, 2025, 7:50 AM

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supple zenith Next frame - 84.405

improved to .416

split patio Jul 10, 2025, 7:04 PM

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@late wyvern max rank

late wyvernBOT Jul 10, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 10, 2025 (19:04) UTC. MAX: 150.

00: Eddy            - 75
01: CeramicBlue     - 25
02: NateyPooPoo     - 13
03: YaxMin          - 12
04: Sky!            - 10
05: SimVYo          -  9
06: fantastic damag -  2
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  -  2
08: jp27ace         -  1
09: vertexv         -  1```

split patio Jul 10, 2025, 7:05 PM

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Hit 50% of 0ths

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Getting tough to find them, for sure

sturdy yarrow Jul 10, 2025, 7:52 PM

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woah

old lagoon Jul 14, 2025, 7:33 PM

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 14, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 14, 2025 (19:33) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: CeramicBlue     - 125
02: Eddy            - 125
03: fantastic damag - 125
04: Hild            - 125
05: NateyPooPoo     - 125
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
07: Schmole         - 125
08: SimVYo          - 125
09: Sky!            - 125
10: Slomac          - 125
11: vector7         - 125
12: vertexv         - 125
13: YaxMin          - 125
14: _kkstrong       - 124
15: golfkid         - 100
16: Wobert          -  88
17: E L L S         -  87
18: pralkarz        -  87
19: jp27ace         -  86```

old lagoon Jul 14, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Triple digits now

muted scroll Jul 14, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Nooo, you wont get there before me

old lagoon Jul 14, 2025, 8:00 PM

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Well I'm done for today

split patio Jul 15, 2025, 6:09 AM

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Slow but steady

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kk 'bout to get CRUSHED

muted scroll Jul 15, 2025, 6:14 AM

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moleSweatZ

old lagoon Jul 16, 2025, 10:11 PM

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 16, 2025, 10:11 PM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 16, 2025 (22:11) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: CeramicBlue     - 125
02: Eddy            - 125
03: fantastic damag - 125
04: Hild            - 125
05: NateyPooPoo     - 125
06: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
07: Schmole         - 125
08: SimVYo          - 125
09: Sky!            - 125
10: Slomac          - 125
11: vector7         - 125
12: vertexv         - 125
13: YaxMin          - 125
14: _kkstrong       - 124
15: golfkid         - 120
16: Wobert          -  88
17: E L L S         -  87
18: pralkarz        -  87
19: jp27ace         -  86```

old lagoon Jul 16, 2025, 10:11 PM

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Imminent

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:30 AM

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@muted scroll @late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 17, 2025, 3:30 AM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 17, 2025 (03:30) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: CeramicBlue     - 125
02: Eddy            - 125
03: fantastic damag - 125
04: golfkid         - 125
05: Hild            - 125
06: NateyPooPoo     - 125
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
08: Schmole         - 125
09: SimVYo          - 125
10: Sky!            - 125
11: Slomac          - 125
12: vector7         - 125
13: vertexv         - 125
14: YaxMin          - 125
15: _kkstrong       - 124
16: Wobert          -  88
17: E L L S         -  87
18: pralkarz        -  87
19: jp27ace         -  86```

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:30 AM

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golfCool

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jul 17, 2025, 3:31 AM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 17, 2025 (03:31) UTC. MIN: 53675.863.

00: Eddy            - 53903.972 (125)
01: Sky!            - 54396.334 (125)
02: SimVYo          - 54460.073 (125)
03: fantastic damag - 54809.719 (125)
04: NateyPooPoo     - 55410.002 (125)
05: Slomac          - 56155.074 (125)
06: vector7         - 56221.777 (125)
07: YaxMin          - 56234.956 (125)
08: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 56255.919 (125)
09: vertexv         - 56270.076 (125)
10: golfkid         - 56417.992 (125)
11: CeramicBlue     - 56654.483 (125)
12: aight           - 58414.963 (125)
13: Schmole         - 58487.170 (125)
14: Hild            - 58642.947 (125)
15: _kkstrong       - 59104.285 (125)
16: E L L S         - 59112.791 (125)
17: ekisacik        - 59412.729 (125)
18: pralkarz        - 61371.637 (125)
19: NEXTER          - 62601.855 (125)```

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:31 AM

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Almost in the top10, I'll take it

muted scroll Jul 17, 2025, 3:32 AM

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Noooooooo!

zenith owl Jul 17, 2025, 3:32 AM

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I'm still astonished that eddy managed to save over 8 seconds across all the levels

muted scroll Jul 17, 2025, 3:32 AM

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Why must the last level be so impossibly hard

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I already have ccsPro attempts and I’m bot closer to beating dev time

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:36 AM

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If you mean the final level of the pack, I am also very annoyed by it

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but did manage to get dev there

supple zenith Jul 17, 2025, 3:38 AM

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“Manage”

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:38 AM

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Hey I'm not good at chimneys

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Had to break out the trill technique

supple zenith Jul 17, 2025, 3:39 AM

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To get a score of sixty nine???

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:39 AM

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trold

supple zenith Jul 17, 2025, 3:39 AM

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In tears over here

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of SADNESS

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 3:41 AM

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Sadness that there will be no further progress updates from me?

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You should be crying tears of joy that this is the first pack I've finished

supple zenith Jul 17, 2025, 3:53 AM

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That’s huge actually, we got golf to finish a tab rainbowninja

muted scroll Jul 17, 2025, 4:08 AM

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YUGGGEEEE

sturdy yarrow Jul 17, 2025, 4:08 AM

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? tab next

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 4:12 AM

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? tab is base completed already

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You want ! tab instead, there's 100 levels I haven't played yet

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 4:29 AM

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Actually though I'm still not sure which level kk is missing dev time

muted scroll Jul 17, 2025, 4:30 AM

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@late wyvern missing MAX dev

late wyvernBOT Jul 17, 2025, 4:30 AM

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_kkstrong is missing 1 out of 125 over-DEV highscore level scores for Max mappack.

MAX-SI-E-04-04```

old lagoon Jul 17, 2025, 4:31 AM

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what a shame to fracture your jumping finger in the middle of a run like that

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Next time don't push down so hard

muted scroll Jul 17, 2025, 4:33 AM

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Maybe thats my problem

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I dunno why I cant get it

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Ive tried all the things

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:47 PM

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@late wyvern sr scores for max-si-00

late wyvernBOT Jul 20, 2025, 11:47 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-00:ansi [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 10960[0m 00: Eddy - 11118 01: ekisacik - 11784 02: Sky! - 14184Scores: 3. Cleanliness: 1004f.

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:47 PM

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Haha, when did those get dev times?

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Are those the totals of the levels within them?

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:49 PM

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Yeah, those are just the totals summed, I added them for episodes and stories some time ago

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:49 PM

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Just play perfectly moleSmirk

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the sr hardcore dev times seem actually hard to hit lol

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:50 PM

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I'd say they very much are considering you have to no-death them haha

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They're probably insane?

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:51 PM

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I did clear all the hardcore columns deathless but hitting the dev times means playing perfectly and not dying too

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:51 PM

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Yeah the no death itself isn't the hardest part if you are allowed to play conservatively

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:51 PM

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-# ...flawlessly, and at high speed

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:51 PM

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But the dev times aren't trivial in such conditions

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At least, not many

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:52 PM

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You can spare a second or so by playing some stages very well compared to their time

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:52 PM

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Very true

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:52 PM

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and you get like 20 seconds for free on the last column thanks to a meme

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:52 PM

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Lol yeah that's such a gift

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That one above was my only run and without preparation, it was much closer than I expected to be honest and I remember it being quite improvable of course, so I wonder if the dev scores are realistic

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:53 PM

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I would say that they are humanly achieveable, it's just very very tough

old lagoon Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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yeah but is Eddy really a human? moleHolmes

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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...might actually be fun since the run length is so short compared to a typical hardcore column?

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clocks under 4 minutes

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Apologies for this

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@late wyvern sr scores for max-si-01

late wyvernBOT Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-01:ansi [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 12150[0m 00: ekisacik - 13386 01: Sky! - 14800Scores: 2. Cleanliness: 2608f.

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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@late wyvern sr scores for max-si-02

late wyvernBOT Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-02:ansi [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 12608[0m 00: ekisacik - 13398Scores: 1. Cleanliness: 2519f.

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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@late wyvern sr scores for max-si-03

late wyvernBOT Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-03:ansi [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 12761[0m 00: ekisacik - 14721Scores: 1. Cleanliness: 3286f.

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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@late wyvern sr scores for max-si-04

late wyvernBOT Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM

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Speedruns for MAX-SI-04:ansi [34m++: -- DEV TIME -- - 12844[0m 00: ekisacik - 15086Scores: 1. Cleanliness: 4682f.

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:55 PM

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@late wyvern max sr community

late wyvernBOT Jul 20, 2025, 11:55 PM

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Community's total speedrun scores for Max mappack on Sunday July 20 at 23:55:24 (+0000):

┌────────────────────┬───────────┬───────────┐
│                    │ Total     │ Average   │
├────────────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤
│ Level scores       │ 53675.863 │   429.407 │
│ Episode scores     │ 53997.000 │  2159.880 │
│ Story scores       │ 67714.000 │ 13542.800 │
├────────────────────┼───────────┼───────────┤
│ Episode difference │   321.137 │    12.845 │
│ Story difference   │ 14038.137 │  2807.627 │
└────────────────────┴───────────┴───────────┘

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:56 PM

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yeah every single one clocks between 3 and 4 minutes

split patio Jul 20, 2025, 11:58 PM

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Yeah definitely a strong point of these columns in particular, short runs and easy levels that allow for fast iteration and not too much frustration

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Until you get to a really clean point, that is

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Also your scores are surprisingly homogeneous, which speaks to how regularly the levels were laid out in the tab, I was surprised by that when I first saw it, specially considering it was likely accidental.

north barn Jul 20, 2025, 11:59 PM

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honestly after all dev times i might go for hardcore fastclears

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feels like something i would do

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finding consistent strats for going under dev will be very fun i think

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 12:02 AM

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Sounds like so, as well as trying to gather some surplus in the levels with greater margin

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Surely required for the tighter ones

analog plover Jul 21, 2025, 6:43 PM

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The best metanet hardcore 0ths have a cleanliness of just over 1000 frames. To get the hardcore dev times on max tab, looks like you need to be within 1-2k frames of cleanliness. Given how short and easy these levels are, it's fair to say that getting the dev times is quite a lot easier than getting a metanet hardcore 0th moleSmirk

olive nova Jul 21, 2025, 6:46 PM

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~~sounds like this comparison works for getting one of the best metanet hardcore 0ths~~

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:44 PM

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@late wyvern hardcore largest spread

late wyvernBOT Jul 21, 2025, 9:44 PM

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All stories with the largest highscore spread between 0th and 1st:

SU-17 - 162.567 - SimVYo
S-14  - 156.400 - SimVYo
S-17  - 132.383 - SimVYo
SU-04 - 130.717 - SimVYo
SU-03 - 113.417 - SimVYo
S-19  - 108.017 - SimVYo
S-18  - 105.433 - SimVYo
SU-18 - 105.234 - SimVYo
S-15  - 102.567 - SimVYo
SU-16 - 102.334 - SimVYo
S-13  -  95.816 - SimVYo
S-16  -  94.366 - SimVYo
SU-12 -  87.084 - SimVYo
SU-11 -  82.000 - SimVYo
S-11  -  81.600 - SimVYo
SU-02 -  79.500 - SimVYo
SU-15 -  74.583 - SimVYo
S-10  -  73.067 - SimVYo
SL-11 -  72.766 - Yuqu
SU-14 -  71.783 - SimVYo```

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:44 PM

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of course the biggest one is the one column i gave up on rerunning

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@late wyvern screenshot of SU-17

late wyvernBOT Jul 21, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Screenshot for SU-17 v2 in palette quench:

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:45 PM

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i hate shunted so much

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:45 PM

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It's also broken because of napoleon blownapart, isn't it?

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:45 PM

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broken how?

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i was able to submit to it after the last update i think

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Can't submit scores to the leaderboards, except for a brief period hashes weren't checked a few years ago

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That's why there's so few scores in comparison to the other columns near it

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:47 PM

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You're kidding, they never fixed those?

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:47 PM

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Nope, when the hashes were put back in place they were again the old ones, so the same levels are broken again

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:48 PM

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omg i remember the hashes being lifted around when i was doing runs

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so i just missed the window?

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jfc

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:48 PM

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Boat sadly sailed

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:48 PM

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What's the old version look like again

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:48 PM

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I'm glad I took advantage of it to highscore the few remaining levels and episodes I had left

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Even though I had confidence they might actually fix them at that point

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@late wyvern screenshot for napoleon blownapart

late wyvernBOT Jul 21, 2025, 9:49 PM

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Screenshot for napoleon blownapart (SU-D-17-02) v2 in palette vasquez:

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:49 PM

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@late wyvern v1 screenshot for napoleon blownapart

late wyvernBOT Jul 21, 2025, 9:49 PM

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Screenshot for napoleon blownapart (SU-D-17-02) v1 in palette vasquez:

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:49 PM

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I think a trap door was removed or something

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Oh shit the bot has version history

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Does the workaround for replacing levels still work?

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Might just resort to it, wouldn't even break replays

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Yep, it does for this one and several others, though unfortunately not for all of them for some reason

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#highscores message

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:51 PM

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the other ones might just be cause of that off by one bug

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:52 PM

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Yeah the tab enders with switches in them (such as destroyer of worlds) are still broken because it's a difference issue causing an incorrect hash

north barn Jul 21, 2025, 9:52 PM

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one hand slow clapping is indeed a weird case though

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:53 PM

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Although we know it's the hashes for all of them, since they all opened up again during that period. The tab enders is caused by the overflow we've discussed previously.

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Slow-clapping is the odd one out completely, no idea why resorting to the old version doesn't fix it

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And you can also tell it's different because instead of submitting (and failing) it just stales, iirc

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I had the theory they might've tried to fix the issue server-side when they found out, starting with this level, but failed to do so and broke it in a different way

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Column SU-00 is also broken for whatever reason, and it was the only one that had a completely empty board until that day, meaning it was broken from the start. But once again, it opened up when the hashes were down.

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@late wyvern nav scores for su0

late wyvernBOT Jul 21, 2025, 9:56 PM

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Navigating highscores for SL-00:

*00: SimVYo          - 803.217
*01: Frycek          - 763.467
 02: almost          - 730.417
*03: overlordlork    - 728.167
 04: Yuqu            - 711.717
*05: paulqlight      - 692.667
 06: xela            - 681.067
 07: ekisacik        - 668.067
 08: Deunousen       - 647.150
 09: maaz.           - 645.150
 10: WheatyTruffles  - 643.483
 11: Thisguy248      - 595.050
 12: jordanriddell64 - 586.383
 13: MrSprucetree    - 580.133
 14: Plethora        - 575.133
 15: oransquid       - 555.417
 16: Jirka           - 535.283
 17: ManerYina       - 524.550
 18: Schi3           - 524.433
 19: Moosenger       - 518.917```*Warning: Navigating scores does not update them.*

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 9:57 PM

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First score Apr 25, last score Dec 7, all 2022.

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 10:13 PM

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north barn Oh shit the bot has version history

Yeah, and for mappacks too, it's so subtle hardly anyone notices :P

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Whenever you see v2 it's a sign there's a previous version available, which you can query by adding v1, or any other number potentially. It always defaults to the latest version available.

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In this case they don't actually correspond to 2 exact game versions, they were actually spread over maybe 4 updates, each affecting different levels. So I took all original versions and crafted a "v1" and combined all the updates together into a "v2".

split patio Jul 21, 2025, 10:17 PM

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analog plover The best metanet hardcore 0ths have a cleanliness of just over 1000 frames. To g...

Fair game, I hadn't thought to check those cleanlinesses but you're right

analog plover Jul 21, 2025, 10:29 PM

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The hash checks will be fixed in the upcoming TEN++ update surely along with every known bug

north barn Jul 22, 2025, 12:28 AM

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split patio In this case they don't actually correspond to 2 exact game versions, they were ...

I just read it as "version 1 of this level" rather than "this level from version 1 of the game"

split patio Jul 22, 2025, 1:05 AM

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Yup, that's what I was hoping to convey with those little tags

silent orbit Jul 25, 2025, 10:15 AM

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@late wyvern max sr score rankings

late wyvernBOT Jul 25, 2025, 10:15 AM

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 25, 2025 (10:15) UTC. MIN: 53675.863.

00: Eddy            - 53903.972 (125)
01: Sky!            - 54396.334 (125)
02: SimVYo          - 54460.073 (125)
03: fantastic damag - 54809.719 (125)
04: NateyPooPoo     - 55410.002 (125)
05: Slomac          - 56155.074 (125)
06: vector7         - 56221.777 (125)
07: YaxMin          - 56234.956 (125)
08: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 56255.919 (125)
09: vertexv         - 56270.076 (125)
10: golfkid         - 56417.992 (125)
11: CeramicBlue     - 56654.483 (125)
12: aight           - 58414.963 (125)
13: Schmole         - 58487.170 (125)
14: Azzo            - 58518.176 (125)
15: Hild            - 58642.947 (125)
16: _kkstrong       - 59104.285 (125)
17: E L L S         - 59112.791 (125)
18: ekisacik        - 59412.729 (125)
19: pralkarz        - 61371.637 (125)```

silent orbit Jul 25, 2025, 10:15 AM

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 25, 2025, 10:15 AM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 25, 2025 (10:15) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: CeramicBlue     - 125
02: Eddy            - 125
03: fantastic damag - 125
04: golfkid         - 125
05: Hild            - 125
06: NateyPooPoo     - 125
07: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
08: Schmole         - 125
09: SimVYo          - 125
10: Sky!            - 125
11: Slomac          - 125
12: vector7         - 125
13: vertexv         - 125
14: YaxMin          - 125
15: _kkstrong       - 124
16: Azzo            - 122
17: Wobert          -  88
18: E L L S         -  87
19: pralkarz        -  87```

silent orbit Jul 25, 2025, 10:15 AM

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thought i had em all

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Jul 25, 2025, 10:19 AM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Jul 25, 2025 (10:19) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: Azzo            - 125
02: CeramicBlue     - 125
03: Eddy            - 125
04: fantastic damag - 125
05: golfkid         - 125
06: Hild            - 125
07: NateyPooPoo     - 125
08: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
09: Schmole         - 125
10: SimVYo          - 125
11: Sky!            - 125
12: Slomac          - 125
13: vector7         - 125
14: vertexv         - 125
15: YaxMin          - 125
16: _kkstrong       - 124
17: Wobert          -  88
18: E L L S         -  87
19: pralkarz        -  87```

silent orbit Jul 25, 2025, 10:19 AM

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that's better

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really fun pack for a non highscorer

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great work

supple zenith Jul 25, 2025, 1:20 PM

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moleSwole

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GGs

faint tree Aug 11, 2025, 2:32 AM

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furretfastwalc

old lagoon Aug 11, 2025, 2:33 AM

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pog

faint tree Aug 11, 2025, 2:34 AM

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this has been alright so far. speed stuff stresses me the hell out so my enjoyment toward a pack like this will always be limited

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I can only express thanks that the dev times have been pretty reasonable so far

old lagoon Aug 11, 2025, 2:39 AM

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Are you self-routing dev times?

faint tree Aug 11, 2025, 2:39 AM

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nooo lol, I don't have the patience for that unfortunately

zenith owl Aug 11, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Self-routing elevates the experience imo

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But ofc you do you lol

faint tree Aug 11, 2025, 2:41 AM

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I've never been able to grasp speed tech in this game, I could try but I doubt it'll go well

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levels as early as the third one had me flummoxed on when and how quickly I had to jump up the slopes

old lagoon Aug 11, 2025, 2:43 AM

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@late wyvern screenshot of MAX-SI-A-00-02

late wyvernBOT Aug 11, 2025, 2:43 AM

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Screenshot for a rare glimpse of mother orb's children (MAX-SI-A-00-02) by audrey v1 in palette tr-808:

faint tree Aug 13, 2025, 6:40 PM

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=]

supple zenith Aug 13, 2025, 6:54 PM

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Cracked

prime nacelle Aug 14, 2025, 1:07 AM

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moleSmile

fathom tartan Aug 19, 2025, 5:49 PM

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@late wyvern Max how many dev

late wyvernBOT Aug 19, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Kostucha has 125 out of 125 over-DEV highscore level scores for Max mappack.

fathom tartan Aug 19, 2025, 5:49 PM

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cute little pack

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would be interesting to see this idea on more complex levels with more routing possibilities

split patio Aug 19, 2025, 6:02 PM

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Specially the dev scores yeah, the interpolation would be basically useless in that scenario though, which was the main idea when making tab with framewars..

fathom tartan Aug 19, 2025, 6:04 PM

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ah yes I meant dev scores

supple zenith Aug 19, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Yeah dev scores that have a stronger emphasis on routing, and less on precise execution. Sounds like good fun

muted scroll Aug 19, 2025, 6:10 PM

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I would play that pack

vestal acorn Aug 19, 2025, 7:47 PM

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I definitely want to make that tab at some point.

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This tab had elements of that but we opted more for framewar levels this time

faint tree Nov 24, 2025, 3:09 PM

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how do I go about manually implementing my pre-patch save for this tab into the game? afaik the the installer swaps out everything properly except for the save file

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this has probably been brought up somewhere else but I'm not active in most custom tab threads/channels AMnoThinks

olive nova Nov 24, 2025, 3:17 PM

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if you disable cloud save and remove the save from the folder and the local cloud folder you should just be able to decompress the file the installer made and put it in the n++ folder

faint tree Nov 24, 2025, 3:36 PM

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that seems to have worked, thanks. just to double-check, can I still play online without my scores getting thrown onto metanet levels?

olive nova Nov 24, 2025, 3:38 PM

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you'd have to ask eddy about whether the installers work otherwise, but i think if you can see the max tab scores and the dev times on there and such it should have replaced the server

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(also it shouldn't put scores on the metanet servers either way because the hash verification would fail)

faint tree Nov 24, 2025, 3:41 PM

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I can indeed see the max tab scores, including my replays. I'll still wait on @split patio for the final say

split patio Nov 24, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Yeah, that's correct, everything else other than the savefile handling shouldn't have changed, so submission should go through my server. Just be very careful when managing your savefile manually (for your own good :P) to ensure you don't get them mixed.

The game will now use the nprofile.gz file, and only fallback to nprofile when the compressed one isn't available, so you'll notice it will start to save your progress in the former, not the latter, so that's the one you'll need to backup at the end. The installer will continue (incorrectly) swapping the latter though, which means that when you uninstall the pack it will save nprofile into nprofile_max.zip, but this will be outdated as we just described.

For now, it's best to completely ignore the automatic savefile handling and do everything manually and carefully before/after running the installer. I'll try to come up with an idea to mitigate this problem for the future, although if the cloud save also needs to be handled somehow I might just have to disable the savefile feature altogether instead, which also forces users to be mindful about the saves (which is a good thing, imo).

north barn Nov 25, 2025, 1:27 AM

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Automatic compression definitely makes manual handling less annoying

faint tree Nov 28, 2025, 7:55 PM

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man I forgot how much this pack doesn't jive with me

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my flow is playing an episode blindly, going through the levels individually (trying to do dev times blind when I can) and then replaying the episode to get its dev time

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it's an exhausting amount of repetition. that's probably part of the framewar appeal, practicing levels to perfection and all that, but it isn't for me

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the levels are well designed and the difficulty is very accessible for non-highscorers, it's just this weird rhythm of play that's screwing with me I think

faint tree Nov 28, 2025, 10:11 PM

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I literally didn't rikoFrown

old lagoon Nov 28, 2025, 11:03 PM

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@late wyvern screenshot max-si-e-2-0

late wyvernBOT Nov 28, 2025, 11:03 PM

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Screenshot for you know what you need to do (MAX-SI-E-02-00) by Slomac v1 in palette tr-808:

fickle ether Nov 28, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Oh yea heeheee

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That’s for highscorers for sure

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Canonical thwump boost in this tab

north barn Nov 28, 2025, 11:10 PM

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it isnt that obvious

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but it is cool

faint tree Dec 7, 2025, 12:50 PM

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@late wyvern max dev ranks

late wyvernBOT Dec 7, 2025, 12:50 PM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Dec 07, 2025 (12:50) UTC. MAX: 125.

00: aight           - 125
01: Azzo            - 125
02: CeramicBlue     - 125
03: Eddy            - 125
04: fantastic damag - 125
05: golfkid         - 125
06: Hild            - 125
07: Kostucha        - 125
08: NateyPooPoo     - 125
09: Nim "Mr. 0ths"  - 125
10: Schmole         - 125
11: SimVYo          - 125
12: Sky!            - 125
13: Slomac          - 125
14: vector7         - 125
15: vertexv         - 125
16: YaxMin          - 125
17: kkstrong        - 124
18: WheatyTruffles  - 124
19: Wobert          -  88```

faint tree Dec 7, 2025, 12:50 PM

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harumph

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@late wyvern missing max dev

late wyvernBOT Dec 7, 2025, 12:51 PM

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WheatyTruffles is missing 1 out of 125 over-DEV highscore level scores for Max mappack.

MAX-SI-B-04-03```

faint tree Dec 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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@late wyvern missing max dev

late wyvernBOT Dec 7, 2025, 12:54 PM

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WheatyTruffles is missing 0 out of 125 over-DEV highscore level scores for Max mappack.

faint tree Dec 7, 2025, 12:55 PM

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also got all the episode dev times, dunno if outte tracks that

faint tree Dec 7, 2025, 1:23 PM

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had a bit of a headache reverting my save; managed it by having steam cloud disabled and removing the zip folder where the .gz gets written (in the main and backup folder)

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you have to increment something in the game (dying, beating a level) for a new .gz to be written, so keep that in mind if you plan on fucking with your save

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having nothing but an nprofile with no steam cloud puts you back in the dark ages BruhSit

split patio Dec 8, 2025, 4:41 AM

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They should be tracked yeah:

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@late wyvern max dev rank episode

late wyvernBOT Dec 8, 2025, 4:41 AM

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore episodes for `Max` mappack

-# Date: Dec 08, 2025 (04:41) UTC. MAX: 25.

00: Eddy            - 25
01: SimVYo          - 25
02: WheatyTruffles  - 25
03: E L L S         - 20
04: Sky!            - 20
05: fantastic damag - 19
06: Kostucha        - 18
07: YaxMin          - 18
08: jp27ace         - 15
09: NateyPooPoo     - 14
10: Slomac          - 10
11: golfkid         -  8
12: DarkStuff?      -  7
13: kkstrong        -  7
14: NEXTER          -  7
15: CeramicBlue     -  4
16: ekisacik        -  4
17: vertexv         -  4
18: Wobert          -  4
19: Azzo            -  3```

split patio Dec 8, 2025, 4:43 AM

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faint tree having nothing but an nprofile with no steam cloud puts you back in the dark age...

It might be a simpler option than having to remember to deal with Steam Cloud and ensure it updates your save, but it's good to also have a working online option

faint tree Dec 8, 2025, 5:06 AM

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I think I'll keep it disabled for now, since I'm used to religiously backing up my saves

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dunno if you plan on making new tab installers, but it'd be ideal if they could swap out the saves in the main folder, backup folder, and cloud folder

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no pressure to do that of course, I don't even have a clue how feasible it'd be

split patio Dec 8, 2025, 5:35 AM

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Swapping in the backup folder should be no problem, not sure about the Cloud folder though (location, permissions, etc)

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Is the backup folder actually used though? In what circumstances?

faint tree Dec 8, 2025, 5:41 AM

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I was unsure of that myself haha

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I changed the files there out of paranoia mostly. I only have recollections of the main .gz file and cloud save overwriting what I'm attempting to swap in

split patio Dec 8, 2025, 5:53 AM

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Fair enough :P My save there is a month old, I think it's safe to say it's not generally used, although perhaps it falls back to it in case of corruption droneThink

faint tree Dec 8, 2025, 5:56 AM

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I wonder if there's a specific trigger for overwriting it, like beating a level/episode for the first time

pseudo shuttle Apr 16, 2026, 7:32 PM

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I'm having trouble getting MAX to load, anyone know what's going on, please? It installs and gives me the MAX splash screen, but when I go to play it's just the normal Metanet levels. I've tried turning off Steam Cloud

outer swift Apr 16, 2026, 8:29 PM

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@split patio is the man

pseudo shuttle Apr 16, 2026, 8:31 PM

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Sorry, found them! They were in the Intro tab, but it kept my gold from the Metanet one so I didn't notice a change in the thumbnails

outer swift Apr 16, 2026, 8:34 PM

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Oh yeah maybe switch out your save manually if you want to see your progress

pseudo shuttle Apr 16, 2026, 8:57 PM

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Gotcha, thank you!

split patio Apr 16, 2026, 11:27 PM

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Yeah unfortunately the savefile format was changed in november, so all mappack installers don't swap the savefile anymore (except for the latest one), and thus you have to do it manually.

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The new savefile, btw, is nprofile.gz, not nprofile alone, which you might have as well (but which isn't updated anymore).

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Another issue you might encounter is Steam Cloud, which sometimes replaces your save back with the one saved online, even if you manually changed the file. In that case you may have to disable Steam Cloud for N++.

#MAX

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall top 20 average ranks for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun episode scores for Max mappack

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Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore episode 0ths for Max mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for Max mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore episodes for Max mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

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Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun episode scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Highscore episode 0ths for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Highscore overall 0ths for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Interpolated speedrun level scores for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore levels for `Max` mappack

Rankings - Over-DEV highscore episodes for `Max` mappack