New to AoS and feel bad for bothering people in Tactics and List Chat. Need help picking an army | /r/AgeOfSigmar | Page 1

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 9:16 PM

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The only thing I know I want (am open to changing of course). I want a bit more of an elite focused army mostly because I dont want to have to paint 1000 clan rats. Im still rather new to wargaming and dont trust that I wont go crazy from it. A monster mash army would be great but Im open depending on how interesting the army is. I don't care for the best faction either. In terms of playstyle, I have no clue honestly.

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So far these are the lists I've gotten help with along side an Ogre list,Nurgle List, and NightHaunt List

📎 Angry_Trees.txt 📎 Goblins_with_Spiders.txt 📎 Mech_Rats.txt 📎 Stomp_Lizards.txt

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Currently Im leaning towards Seraphon,Nurgle,NightHaunts,and the Ogres but I know that 2 of those 4 are rather popular and Im rethinking it.

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New to AoS and feel bad for bothering people in Tactics and List Chat. Need help picking an army

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I have looked into the lore for some of the factions but none of them have really peaked my interest yet.

turbid hinge Jan 29, 2023, 9:53 PM

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What about the factions interests you?

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:01 PM

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hmm

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the factions with less model count are SoB rather extreme

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then following that theres ogors, and FEC if you don't spam ghouls

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stormcast is a good pic too,t hey don't usually take more than 30 or so models

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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turbid hinge What about the factions interests you?

Any faction that allows me to flex the little creativity I have. Basically one that isnt just openly good or comically evil. Example could probably be a Skaven army that openly hates chaos. The purple warstone they came into contact with has kind of screwed with them more than usual. They see Sigmar as the Great Horned Rat and the Stormcast as his eternal Stormvermin. Something weird like that

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What do you mean by SoB?

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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sons of behemoth

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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oh

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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the megagargants

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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yeah Im gonna dodge them lol

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:02 PM

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I think they look derpy AF

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but some ppl like

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them

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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Im not a fan of them honestly

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:03 PM

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probably a good call, their kinda stupid expensive

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sylvaneth has a pretty good roster

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and they don't spam dryads anymore

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so their fairly elite

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but really the most creative factions are gonna be the ones with the bigger rosters

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sylvaneth is ok

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but the biggest ones are stormcast, LRL is up there now, soulblight gravelords, slaves to darkness,

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stuff like that

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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LRL?

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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lumineth realmlords

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tho I personally wouldn't recommend them either

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they've a nasty habbit of their tome only lasting a year

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:05 PM

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fair enough

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:06 PM

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any aesthetics you're fond of

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or tropes you enjoy

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I could try pointing a couple factions out

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game styles you might like

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stuff like that

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:07 PM

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Im rather simple when it comes to strategies so any faction that doesnt require a PHD and having read the Art of War before starting the game with be nice

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Id rather not need to remember 100 different buffs needed for a unit to function

turbid hinge Jan 29, 2023, 10:12 PM

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Hm. I'm not really knowledgeable about the rules regarding the game. However, If you're planning on Seraphon it'd probably be better to wait until summer. They're having new releases which may be a range-refresh.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Yeah I do know about that

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:13 PM

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sylvaneth has a fair few overlapping buffs iirc

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I'll just @rotund wraith to check

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if you want simple and semi elite

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ogor mawtribes would be ur faction

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tho the ogors are a bit derpy like mega's

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the Beast claw raiders mounts are cool

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that's usually what I go with

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:14 PM

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they indeed are

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:14 PM

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their overall gameplay comes down to minding your distance from enemy units

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so you don't get charged

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and you charge them

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always be charging

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plus, if you can find their old SC kit

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they're not expensive to get into

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tho that's not officially carried by GW anymore so its harder find

turbid hinge Jan 29, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Their old SC is fantastic, if you wanna go Beastclaw Raiders. That's what I'm going for for mine. You could probably find it on Ebay for a decently good price.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:16 PM

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I do plan on grabbing 3rd party and printed units so options shouldnt be too bad

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:16 PM

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the new one is pretty good too

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tbh

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but only if you wanna get into foot ogors

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yeah if subbing is ur thing too, then that wouldn't be an issue

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so yeah, mawtribes would be a good faction to start off with imo

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sylvaneth also wouldn't be bad, their a lil more to think about tho

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:21 PM

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I did find the tree models very cool

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:24 PM

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eternal slate I'll just <@85988742375944192> to check

howdy, how can I help?

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questions about treeple?

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:27 PM

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yeah I couldn't remember if they had like

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a lot of overlapping buffs to remember

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kinda like how nh do

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:28 PM

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buffs, not so overlapping . Positioning is the most important thing.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:28 PM

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No matter what i run,it'll require the tree terrain right

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:28 PM

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yeah, normally at least 3 sets worth

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:29 PM

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eternal slate a lot of overlapping buffs to remember

Treeple rely on buffs, but it's generally just the 1 , +3 charge, +2 charge. or being in range of a revive spell/ability

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after that you have to constantly check your measurements so you're in range of trees to accept buffs, and be able to teleport

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:30 PM

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Going to very slowly run away from that

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:30 PM

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ha

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it's quite the techy army

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bit like playing 5d Chess at times.

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but when you get it right, it's very fun and you set the pace for the whole game.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:33 PM

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Yeahh,im going to back off from that. Im too smooth brained for that

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:34 PM

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haha that's fair. I see you were thinking ogors? they look good fun too. lots of good durabilty and pew pew

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:34 PM

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Im playing 30k Horus Heresy so AoS is a whole beast

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:35 PM

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yeah ogors is way simplier than that

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you really just slap units on table

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and charge

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:35 PM

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Im looking at a number of armies. Ogres just got moved up higher on the list

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What about Nurgle?

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:35 PM

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hmmm they're sorta similar, not too much going on

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:35 PM

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Nurgle are pretty simple too. durable, play the attrition game.

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:35 PM

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but they are much slower on the table top

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:35 PM

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thats fine

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:36 PM

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their moves are all like 4 inches

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:36 PM

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unless you use the flies. they are speedy at times

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personally i don't find playing against nurgle all that fun. Lots of disease dice to keep track of

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:37 PM

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Im fine with the slow grind forward. Obviously ranged armies will have a hay day with me but thats whatever

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:37 PM

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nurgle is a real solid army. just do your opponents a favor and track disease tokens for them.. haha

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:37 PM

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nurgle is one of teh best armies in the game

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they have a cuople speed units to help them catch out the enemies shooters

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:38 PM

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Im mostly afraid of trying to paint them but I can just take it slow if i end up doing it

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:39 PM

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nurgle is very simple to paint. Being "dirty" looking you can get away with almost anything and just say it's nurgle

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paint them greens and browns, slap on a few washes.. Boom icky nurgle

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:39 PM

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I did have a list laying around. Personally I dont care for the flies but am not sure

📎 Big_Cancer.txt

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Also I wanted to paint them Black with some purples and such

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:40 PM

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robust shadow I did have a list laying around. Personally I dont care for the flies but am not...

oohh.. how did you do this collapsible list? haha

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:40 PM

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Made a notepad file and threw it in Discord

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:40 PM

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is this dragging a txt doco into discord?

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nice, didn't know it could display them like this. haha back to your list

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:41 PM

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robust shadow I did have a list laying around. Personally I dont care for the flies but am not...

there was a tournament winning list quite similar to this recently.. i'll see if I can find it

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oh sry it came 3rd.. still a super solid list

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📎 Nurgle_Cancon_3rd.txt

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ooh fancy

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it won all it's matches, but came 3rd overall due to points. there were 6 armies that did 5-0 out of 202 in this tournament

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old GHB keep in mind however.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:44 PM

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Im not seeing how they added the Corvus Cabal and Chosen

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GHB?

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:44 PM

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general's handbook. seasonal rules

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:44 PM

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oh,I dont even know the current ones as I still dont have a single game under my belt

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:45 PM

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ah all good. The seasonal rules change things like battalions , add a new seasonal spell, and a few rules around unit interactions

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this tournament was right at the end of the previous season. So some of the battalions in that list aren't available anymore

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:46 PM

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yeah,the Expert one for sure

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:46 PM

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yeah, that's the one. the other 2 are part of the core rules and can still be used

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the list still works quite well in the new season.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:48 PM

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Let me wipe mine clean real quick and take a look

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Im not seeing the Chaos Chosen for some reason

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I found it

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Wait,how does he have multiple Artifacts?

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:52 PM

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robust shadow Wait,how does he have multiple Artifacts?

Command Entourage – Magnificent. He has 3 heroes in a battalion to gain an extra enhancement

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Okay,I wonder how important Morbidex Twiceborn is

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:53 PM

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im not super familiar with nurgle myself.

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:54 PM

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rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:54 PM

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@sinful gorge how's your nurgle knowledge?

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 10:58 PM

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Looks like I need another lower wound sub-commander to properly fill out that battalion

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 10:59 PM

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what are we on about for nurgle

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 10:59 PM

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you know the nurgleburgles much drath?

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 11:01 PM

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I know a fair bit about them yeah

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but I don't play them

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if you want a nurlge player you'd wanna ask megamouse

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:05 PM

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@hazy inlet sorry for the ping but I would like your help if thats okay

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:11 PM

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What do you need help with

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:12 PM

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When it comes to this list here, how important would you say Morbidex Twiceborn is

📎 Nurgle_Cancon_3rd.txt

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Also if I wanted to replace him, what non-mounted hero would you say is a good option?

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Im not much of a fan of him personally

eternal slate Jan 29, 2023, 11:19 PM

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the 3 maggoth lords are the most point efficient units in the book

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they are pretty important

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tho there are def lists that can run without them

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:19 PM

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I have 2 of them

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I'll need another leader with less than 10 wounds to fill up the Command Entourage so i cant actually take the last one anyway

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:40 PM

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I like furies with maggothlords

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They can screen really good for them since they always get out of the way

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They either get killed in which case the maggoth can pile in.. or I activate and fly away at which case I can pile in the maggoth

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If you wanted to replace morbidex I would consider festus

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He's a healing aura for the other maggoths

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:42 PM

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Festus?

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oh i found him

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:43 PM

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The leechlord

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He's a locus so everyone in 14" heals d3 ok instead of 1

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And he has a d3 heal for a model next to him

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:44 PM

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if i keep the chaos chosen, can i still pick the mark of nurgle even though they arent in a slaves to darkness army

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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you have to pick the mark

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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You don't get the bonus

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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but don't get its benfits

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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got it

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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You don't want any S2D units

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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has it been mentioned that list is old season?

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:45 PM

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Unless it's for so some kind of utility

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:46 PM

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Here is the current list im writing. Yes it was mentioned so i was using it as a template

📎 Big_Cancer.txt

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:46 PM

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big issue is one champion

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:46 PM

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without the Chaos Chosen,im at 490 open points

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:47 PM

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It's easier to post lists in the chat using ```

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:47 PM

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     - Subfaction: Blessed Sons
     - Grand Strategy: Blessed Desecration
     - Triumph: Bloodthirsty
LEADERS
Bloab Rotspawned (320)
     - Spells: Plague Squall
Orghotts Daemonspew (320)
Plague Priest (100)*
     - Artefacts of Power: Arcane Tome
     - Spells: Levitate
     - Prayers: Heal
Lord of Afflictions (230)*
     - General
     - Command Traits: Overpowering Stench
     - Incubatch
     - Dolorous Tocsin
     - Artefacts of Power: The Splithorn Helm
Festus the Leechlord (150)*
BATTLELINE
Rotmire Creed (130)
Rotmire Creed (130)
Corvus Cabal (80)
Rotmire Creed (130)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Command Entourage
     - Magnificent

TOTAL POINTS: 1590/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App```

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oh wow,didnt know that

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:48 PM

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Yeah it makes it easier

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I would change corvus cabal for 3 nurglings

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May as well deep strike something that gives you corruption points

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:50 PM

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is there anything else I could take. Im gonna be 100% here...I despise those models

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:50 PM

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You could make some out of the single nurglings ?

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You could take gutrot

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He lets you deep strike the rotmore

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He's expensive though

rotund wraith Jan 29, 2023, 11:51 PM

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hazy inlet Yeah it makes it easier

ohhh ahhhh

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:52 PM

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to be fair, if i drop the Cabal, I'll have 490 open points so i do have some options

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:52 PM

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i think drop lord of afflictions for lord of plagues

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and add some blightkings

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:53 PM

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make him my general?

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:54 PM

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yes because he'd be the only option for it

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:54 PM

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Just don't add a GUO

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Lord of affliction is the best general

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:56 PM

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i think lord of plagues plus blightkings could be good

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just because its a second champion

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:56 PM

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I don't rate blight kings

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:56 PM

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and buffs the kings

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fair enough

hazy inlet Jan 29, 2023, 11:56 PM

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Especially not in last season

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:56 PM

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yeah but current season

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i think they're okay

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biggest issue is speed

robust shadow Jan 29, 2023, 11:59 PM

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isnt that the entire army's issue

old berry Jan 29, 2023, 11:59 PM

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yes and no

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its the issue with everything except pusgoyles and plague drones

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:01 AM

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fair enough

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:02 AM

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and because of their speed and pregame move from a subfaction pusgoyles dominated a lot of matches

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:04 AM

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I see

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Hmm,I'm suprised Nurgle doesnt have any big monsters outside of the Great unclean one

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oh,I still have the plague priest. I dont think i saw y'all say anything about him

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:06 AM

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nice utility

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heal prayer is decent

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and he's a galetian champion so will help with battletactics for this season

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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Don't I already have 2 with Festus and the plague priest

hazy inlet Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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I mean the maggothlords are big monster

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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robust shadow Don't I already have 2 with Festus and the plague priest

festus isn't

hazy inlet Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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Also isn't this for the last season?

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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named characters don't count

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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oh

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If im just doing regular games,does the season even matter?

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:07 AM

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hazy inlet Also isn't this for the last season?

i thought they just based the list off a tourney winner from last season

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well not winner

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 AM

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I did

hazy inlet Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 AM

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I would consider dropping festus for a rotbringer with a endless spell if it's for the GC season

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 AM

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like top 6 in 100

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thats a good call

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:08 AM

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okay,500 open points

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Also,do seasons matter for regular play?

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:09 AM

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my group uses matched play

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because normal play doesn't have scoring

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:09 AM

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fair enough,I think my group does matched play also

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I can always ask

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:11 AM

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yeah

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with 500 points you could include a 4 man of pusgoyles i think

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oh wait

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battleline

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whats the list so far

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:12 AM

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     - Subfaction: Blessed Sons
     - Grand Strategy: Blessed Desecration
     - Triumph: Bloodthirsty
LEADERS
Bloab Rotspawned (320)
     - Spells: Plague Squall
Orghotts Daemonspew (320)
Plague Priest (100)*
     - Artefacts of Power: Arcane Tome
     - Spells: Levitate
     - Prayers: Heal
Lord of Afflictions (230)*
     - General
     - Command Traits: Overpowering Stench
     - Incubatch
     - Dolorous Tocsin
     - Artefacts of Power: The Splithorn Helm
Rotbringer Sorcerer (140)*
BATTLELINE
Rotmire Creed (130)
Rotmire Creed (130)
Rotmire Creed (130)
CORE BATTALIONS
*Command Entourage
     - Magnificent

TOTAL POINTS: 1500/2000
Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App```

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:12 AM

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okay so 4 pusgoyles fits

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or 10 blightkings

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:13 AM

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Blightkings seems to fit the theme more I think

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:13 AM

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i'd lean pusgoyles tbh

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just because a 4 man of pusgoyles take buffs better than the 10 of bks

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and they have a movement advantage

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:15 AM

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fair enough...what about spells,artefacts and aspects for the Rotbringer

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:16 AM

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i think give arcane tome to rotbringer instead of priest

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:17 AM

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isnt he already a wizard

old berry Jan 30, 2023, 12:18 AM

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yeah but he gets 2 casts then

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actually

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plague priest with levitate is decent utility

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i think out of the spells the rotbringer can take rancid visitations, magnificent buboes and cloying quagmire are decent picks

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not too sure of quagmire though

robust shadow Jan 30, 2023, 12:22 AM

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got it. I'll look and ask more questions another time. I need to get some paper work done. Thanks everyone for the help

#New to AoS and feel bad for bothering people in Tactics and List Chat. Need help picking an army