#the toy gun

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rare gorge
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  1. why 0 damage on a revolver that also has what i feel no ammo?
  2. right click is already used for cloak
  3. what special weapon abilities you mean?
quick ember
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1: its a gun that used for disguises

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the enemy team will see you shooting as the class your disguised as

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2:you can keybind that to somthing else

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3:i mean special abilitys like a heavy reving their minigun or a sniper using their scope

rare gorge
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a gun for disguising only feels... off, specially even if you can't deal any damage for when you are caught and need to escape;
you can replace it, but why would you change cloak button?;
and what about other classes like scout, soldier...

quick ember
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you dont seem to understand

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you turn the gun to a tool

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also you arent replacing the cloak button you are replacing the gun's special ability button

rare gorge
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... you do understand most of the weapons is suppouse to be for TeamFortress2CLASSIFIED...

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spy doesn't have at all any other stuff other than the stock revolver&tranq

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so having a "toy gun" would just make you lose damage for a thing that at best, people will just spy check

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so even if you did a good trick for a player, someone would still spycheck regardless

quick ember
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do you main spy?

rare gorge
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i dont but i just feel this just sucks, it feels pointless to play

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you lose damage, over able to trick someone that isn't just wanting to actually spycheck

quick ember
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the spycicl is a bad knife but it saves lives

rare gorge
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like, if i were to see a sniper scope or something, i would still burn them just to make sure

quick ember
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let's see other people opinions

quick ember
rare gorge
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for you

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but i would do that

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cuz it just makes sense to always spycheck

quick ember
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rare gorge
quick ember
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im not trying to be rude but your opinion alone isn't valid

rare gorge
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i just dont see why would you use this in TF2c

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it doesn't even have a lot of weapons for spy

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so this feels useless to use unless they decided to add more weapons

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which one is for more damage(revolver)
and another is for support(tranq)

quick ember
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um that's why this forum exist budy

rare gorge
quick ember
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get behind enemy lines disguise as someone and pretend shooting

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OR

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pretend to spy check the enemy

rare gorge
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i still very feel people would spycheck you regardless

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no matter if the disguise was good

quick ember
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im telling you this weapon is huge for spys you just can't see the potential

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also you spy check everyone but not everyone does like you

rare gorge
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for what then? nothing on Spy for TF2C man, nothing

quick ember
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let's just see if someone else will comment about this

ashen slate
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All this is gonna do is make people more paranoid and spycheck harder

quick ember
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if only i can mod

rare gorge
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look, all i will say, the reason this is pointless, is that you deal 0 damage

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and can disguise distracted enough players

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but there can also be players who just go "wait a sec... i think that might be a enemy spy!"

quick ember
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what about less experienced players

rare gorge
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all i feel you want about this is just a weapon to trick players, but in reality you just want to make people insane

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your previous disguise kit already would make people go insane spychecking dispensers and such

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and this just makes it worse

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and remember, spy has 2 weapons in TF2c

slate glen
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This just isn't interesting

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People shoot their teammates even if they ar eshooting lol

quick ember
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ok i give up

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it was not the worst conversation i could have imagined from the tf2 community

quick ember
slate glen
quick ember
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interesting game your playing rn

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dwarf fortress

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good taste

slate glen
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Thank you

woven spade
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i don't know why every one is down voting this

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just because it doesn't solve pyro's problem doesn't mean it's bad

plain nest
# quick ember do you main spy?

bro good spy mains use their gun. and I main spy. I don't use the amby, I don't use the kunai. The custom weapon mentioned has potential tho

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maybe like 'r' to switch firemodes to "mimicking" enemy diguises, coming at the cost of -20% firing speed, -84% clip size and 70% damage penalty

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(for dumasses you dont have to reload cuz its a one round weapon so use the reload for smth else)

undone charm
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This does have potential as a non spy main

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This could make me play spy more

slate glen
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People will spycheck players regardless of if they’re obviously not a Spy

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And even if they didn’t, they’d start to do so

sonic crane
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I’ve bounced around the idea of a mimic gun before
Problem is that players don’t care & it’s just comically complex for the amount of disguises & variety of weapons
And by ‘players don’t care’, I mean people will still spycheck you despite the odds & your teammates are playing a game usually not to actively work together & instead just fight with teammates happening to be on their side, so they won’t pretend to be getting damaged more often than not unless actively trying to help you sell it

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Most people playing TF2 are just playing the “Fortress Two” part, & this weapon really relies on your Team acting to help sell it

rare gorge
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i still believe the huge problem, is just its giving Spy a weapon with nothing to do for it on TF2c

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if spy had more revolver options, sure, i wouldn't mind it ig

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but it still feels weird because well, a revolver should be something that ideally you just use when it's going wrong

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even the tranq i feel it can be good damage as it's suppouse to be a support weapon i feel

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where even if you didn't get the knife hit, teammates could do it

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(if they are aware of it tho)

plain nest
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also 13 damage and projectile bullet makes it js less reliable, you miss out on low health targets

rare gorge
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still better than having a weapon that deals 0 damage just so you can fool at best, someone who hasn't discovered about the weapon yet

plain nest
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hows my rebalance above tho

raw jolt
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I feel like any "fake shooting animation item" for spy should just be a basekit thing

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id much rather the ability to fake a shooting animation to be just an inherent skill rather than at the cost of your revolver

slate glen
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Yeah, its not really useful enough to replace anything in Spy’s kit

sly galleon
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All it does is make spy checking more annoying

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So i really don't see any point in it at all