Knockouters

[hot sundial]

Description: Say goodbye to your jaws
Attributes:
⚪ RMB Ability: Charge in any direction (even sky) for 1 second. Impact with environment or enemies creates explosion that does not damage the wearer. The enemy gets knocked away from the impact (same way they would get knockbacked by Force of Nature)
Cooldown for 10 seconds
🔵 Equips and unequips 25% faster
🔴 -50% normal attack speed
🔴 -35% normal attack damage
🔴 No random crits

Edit: removed health penalty

Gameplay point:

Improves heavy's movement at cost of the melee weapon being useless for the usual hand to hand combat
Allows heavy to get himself to the higher places normally only soldier/demoman/engineer with jump-pad would have access to
Repurposes fat scout play style. Knockouters turn it from a joke to a viable strat since it's faster to pull out a shotgun than minigun after charging towards enemies
(Image of heavy fanmade weapon melee weapon model by Adam F. Streeter taken for an impression on what the weapon would look like

[torpid yew]

Giving heavy a health penalty is plain stupid. It's his only saving grace when revved and pushing

[hot sundial]

Hmmmm. Fair. Removing that

[torpid yew]

You do need to replace it with sth else

[hot sundial]

Mini crit damage penalty when charging?

[torpid yew]

Thats not really a downside. You just made the upside weaker

[hot sundial]

What do you think would work better?

[torpid yew]

I am thinking currently

Thats the hard part of giving heavy a movement tool

[hot sundial]

I intend it to be shorter in range than demo's shield charge. But of course there still gotta be downsides to such ability

Make the recharge speed 12-15 seconds instead of 10?

[torpid yew]

Again thats not a downside

You are making the upside less good

[hot sundial]

Let me know when you'll come up with fix

[uncut flare]

Making heavy worse in melee isn't really much of a downside in my experience.

The minigun shreds anything at close range, and the AA doesn't do terribly

[placid star]

tracking with the minigun is harder than flicking a punch though

[uncut flare]

And if you get caught out without being revved, you can have a shotgun

[uncut flare]

Yeah but it does more than double the dps

[placid star]

double the dps means nothing if you hit less than half of your shots

[torpid yew]

That's still plenty more than what you'd be doing with fists

Must i remind all classes can run out of heavies melee range

Also minigun dps is literally over 500

[placid star]

imo if heavy gets a movement tool it should be a secondary as his playstyle is heavily reliant (pun intended) on his secondary

like how the buffalo steak sandvich gives a movespeed buff but removes the healing of the normal sandvich

[hot sundial]

Good thought. What if the charge attack weapon applies explosion on impact like damaging with demos shield would AND you'll mini crit enemies during charge if using melee?

Uhhh no. On second thought I just came up with heavyknight loadout, lol. That's not good

Weapon solely to charge and not being able to use any other weapon during that sounds much better

Does it?

[loud verge]

Hmm

[hot sundial]

[loud verge]

🫡

[hot sundial]

🫡

[stable warren]

this seems more like an overwatch ability than something that would be in tf2

[hot sundial]

I think it's fun nevertheless. I have no hope in any weapon from this channel to be added in the official tf2c game so let's say it's just a concept for a weapon mod

[stable warren]

devs do lurk so the odds arent 0

[hot sundial]

Lead developer said to me that the channel is purely for fun and they won't likely consider anything suggested here as they already have years of saved suggestions and concepts though

[hot sundial]

[torpid yew]

*and see what people like and don't like to see in game

You are correct, that the chance of a single weapon being added from here is pretty much 0 but they will most likely use all this feedback from people to see what they DO want to add

[hot sundial]

Hm, makes sense

[torpid yew]

I wish i read what i type before sending. Correcting all of my horrible grammar and typos everytime is shameful

[hot sundial]

You text better than the most of native English speakers, even with typos

[torpid yew]

Well then thank god you didn't actually read this then before i fixxed it

[hot sundial]

I did though

[torpid yew]

Then why u prasing it

[hot sundial]

I don't praise it, I just say that despite that you're better than the natives