Spy Revolver: The Stranger Danger

[scarlet flax]

A revolver that lets spy track targets he has hit for a period of time. Also functions as a cross between a pistol and a revolver some what. Could help with seeing where the enemy is when getting away as well even.

[candid torrent]

WHY??????

What does spy need that for?

You can literally go invisible to scout ahead

[earnest carbon]

to bully a player specifically (maybe even track a pyro so you can avoid them)

[scarlet flax]

To track players easier. Maybe you shot someone defending something and you wanna see where they check or run off to.

[shut geode]

i see the vision, 30 seconds is a long ass time tho

[viscid gate]

hidden stat: increases spy paranoia on the target

[warm cipher]

yay wallhacks

[dusky glen]

hell no

[vast osprey]

For me, it's cool, but make the weapon a weapon on par with the tranq gun

and reduce the effect duration

[inner anvil]

It plays Jaws music to affected players

[scarlet flax]

15 seconds?

[vast osprey]

Sure, if it was a projectile-based weapon similar to the tranq gun, I'm onboard with that, sounds cool af

[sand carbon]

I’ve seen the “tracking players” gimmick brought up a lot and it sounds like it could be a fun idea, but putting it on a ranged weapon just would not work IMO

[scarlet flax]

I kinda feel this gimmick would weirdly work well with spy. Spy already tracks people, but this would give an extra edge to that. Keep in mind though only the spy can see it.

Unlike the tranque this can sorta still deal good enough damage.

[past shadow]

Increases paranoia by letting players know they are watched

Like when they get marked for death

[small cedar]

Hi

[steel moon]

not always

there's times where the enemy just spreads well enough or yiu don't have enough space to scuttle through

i can see this weapon have a use

but not much offensively

[candid torrent]

Ok you now know the location of 1 person that you shot so he now knows that there is a spy around

[small cedar]

I mean if you made this as accurate as the revolver, you can tag people from a fair distance

but by the time you get over to where that'd be helpful to your stealth, the effect is half worn off

this would be a powerful tool when combined with some team communication but you'd need comp levels of coordination for it to be useful, so let's say it's mostly just a tool for the spy. Even then this has quite a few interesting use cases, you could mark the pyro to avoid him, the engineer to know when he's away from his nest, the combo to know where they're pushing etc.
However, all of this has to be done from afar and probably from the safety of your team. Otherwise, spy undisguises, alerts everyone and dies achieving nothing. It certainly changes your average spy life but mostly just slows down the process if you wanna use it

Make it do no damage but have infinite accuracy I dare you, then spy's gameplay becomes sniper with extra steps

[split valve]

imo, make the debuff visible to your teammates and massively reduce that duration, maybe making it cure if you die a la harvester

the core idea is good, spy should be able to spy on people

just waaay overtuned and weirdly selfish

[small cedar]

I'd rather not have random outlines popping up on everyone's screen

[split valve]

thats a fair critque

honestly my main issue is this steps on the tranq's toes

since thats the "support" revolver

[small cedar]

true. If it were something to replace the sapper that'd be interesting but you need the sapper to make it useful since I'd say marking engineer is probably the primary use case

[split valve]

actually had a sapper idea that did just that

[shut geode]

im assuming the outlines would only be visible to you, but having 4 of them on ur screen + the objectives would become obnoxious

[split valve]

as the idea is suggested yes its only the spy, i think they were referring to my suggestion for the suggesion

[small cedar]

Skel was suggesting visible to your whole team, if it's just to you I mind it less because

well, you're causing it

it's like if all classes got medic auto call

(which they did due to a bug for a while lmfao)

[split valve]

I think the main issue is its hard to sell seeing someone's outline when you could just kill them

the only usecase for this i can see is sniping someone a mile away and trying to get a trickstab later

[small cedar]

that's why long range is important in this gun's stats

you can shoot at players you wish to avoid/follow BEFORE you cloak and go in

[earnest carbon]

btw the faster firerate raises some eyebrows for me

shouldn't it be slower?

[scarlet flax]

Despite the firerate and greater clip size it does less damage then stock whole clip wise.

It can pump out damage but not as effective as stock nor is it useless though for offense either.

[earnest carbon]

yeah but making it shoot very fast just allow spy to tag so many people at once, making it overwhelming for your allies