Derby Cane Rework

[fresh robin]

Ever since the derby cane was added I always felt like it was underwhelming and even that it felt like a direct downgrade, tho I've seen some people say that its better than the umbrella and even that it was overpowered. I don't know about all that, I've hardly seen any civ actually use it, and when they do it hardly does much.

I feel like instead of applying haste to a single team mate, it'd be useful if when activated it made an area of effect around the civ that granted a speed boost to all team mates inside, the area of effect would be smaller than the "morale" effect the civ passively gives encouraging people to huddle around the civ thus keeping him safe as they push.

and because I think it would be fun when its activated it plays the horse race trumpet fanfare

[hearty ember]

the idea sounds fun in itself

I think the morale radius should be reduced if he's using this, and for the effect radius to match the morale radius (it'd be confusing to have the morale be different than the actual area of the effect)

We could rework it into something like:

[sullen cloud]

I feel like the only reason you're seeing lots of civilians only using the umbrella is because lots of new players just joined and they don't know the civilian has another melee option

[frail dune]

Should just add those Risk of Rain 2 subtle AoE circle visuals

[hearty ember]

Derby Cane:
Alt-Fire: Give Haste to all allies inside your Morale Radius

-250% Recharge Rate (50s to fill up)
-20% Morale Radius
-25% Boost Duration (6s)

Haste Increases firerate, reload speed, movement speed and specific class actions

Downside numbers could change

[frail dune]

AoE haste is intense

[hearty ember]

It is

That's why it'd take 50s to charge

alongisde reducing your morale radius (we could go as far as -33% if needed)

and lastly it lasting only 6s instead of 8s

we could reduce the numbers even more

[topaz ridge]

by this point isn't this a new weapon rather than a derby cane rework

[hearty ember]

but I quite like the idea of haste being AoE

[hearty ember]

I mean yes but

what is derby cane other than umbrella but different m2 effect

wouldn't it make sense to rework derby into being more unique rather than adding another one

[topaz ridge]

ig

[fresh robin]

I think this is a pretty good way to go about it, I was thinking about the boost effect being shorter but wasn't sure so I'm glad we came to the same conclusion on that, but we can't forget the trumpet sound, its the most important part, on top of it being silly it would signal to the enemy team what weapon the civ is using

[hearty ember]

sure

[fresh robin]

:)

[split quarry]

I had a balance idea for the derby cane that gave the civilian a +1 capture rate like the pain train, but idk if that would work

[frail dune]

Civ has +5 capture rate.

Well

+4

[split quarry]

oh i didnt realise lmao