Make the Anti-Aircraft Cannon a fast projectile instead of a hitscan explosive?

[weary echo]

idk i think you just have a skill issue ngl /jk

[weary echo]

gonna try aagun with 3 times faster speed than rockets

[wintry hare]

something something engine does not like fast projectiles

[weary echo]

cant sv_maxvelocity right or smth like that fix that?

[cedar depot]

What about something that's about the speed of the Huntsman arrows? I think that's a reasonable comparison

[weary echo]

playing with bots on cp_dustbowl, it doesnt feel that bad

projectile speed 4 for rockets feels good too i think

[obtuse whale]

I think wait until you see the new Steam release AA gun hitreg

Then revisit this

[cedar depot]

If it’s less annoying to fight, then I count it as a win.

[sharp marsh]

They tried this and it sucked to use

Theres footage of it somewhere hang on

#tf2classified message

[weary echo]

just increase sv_maxvelocity, duh, now you get bigger max speed

[sharp marsh]

I cant tell how serious you’re being

[cedar depot]

Ah, okay, I see. I guess it'd cause weird behavior if it went any faster. At least it's apparently getting nerfed in a different way - something involving collision hulls iirc

[sharp marsh]

Its literally impossible for it to go any faster ftr

This is as fast as projectiles go

[cedar depot]

I didn't know that. It's ultimately w/e, though, since an actual decent fix is apparently in the works

[sharp marsh]

The exact words from the gameplay lead at the time were “and for those that want it to be a projectile, here's me testing it with a projectile at max possible speed, same range, same stats. Sucked ass, significantly harder to use. and projectile is so fast you can't airblast it”

[weary echo]

what do you mean

[sharp marsh]

Like was that message sent sincerely or are you being sarcastic

[weary echo]

uhh, i think i was being serious, maybe, i dont remember

[fleet loom]

Fat-soldier subclass

[sharp marsh]

Fair enough

[sharp marsh]

Theres a vid somewhere of an early version of the AAC where a dev blast jumps with it hang on

[weary echo]

how woudl you be able to blast jump with the aac unless it has an instant wind-up speed, or am i missing something

[weary echo]

did they jump

[sharp marsh]

With the blast from the explosion

Same deal as sticky jumping without jumping

Either way there was a type of explosive based vertical mobility and idk what else you’d call that

[weary echo]

Minijumper

[sharp marsh]

Regardless that only existed in the first modern beta iteration

[fleet loom]

imagine the chaos of heavys flying and spamming grenades everywhere

[severe ginkgo]

live tf2 heavy balance suggestion

[red lava]

Another day, another suggestion for aa cannon to be a projectile

[maiden yacht]

holy fuck this is bad

[sharp marsh]

Yeah. It never made it out of beta for a reason lol, and thats against bots

Imagine fighting a player with any sort of mobility with this

Tbh since this vid is against bots, I wonder if it ever made it into playtesting like this

[maiden yacht]

i've wondered what the AAC would look like as a projectile but i always imagined it would keep its like, proximity detonation

although i guess that can only be a thing if it's hitscan so it knows where its supposed to explode

[sharp marsh]

I'd imagine that and the delayed fire are a product of the initial projectile concept

[simple sphinx]

the only real problem with the aac is that it uses the bounding box, making it a fast projectile is stupid

[sharp marsh]

The real problem with the AAC is high ping