#Spy watch: le monpère (speed drain version)

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vestal fern
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Did your wife just call you and told you you're gonna be a father?, SAY NO MORE. This cloak lets you dissapear forever to avoid the consequences the same way my dad did!.

A spy cloak watch that lets you become infinitely invisible in exchange for slowly becoming slower and slower till you cant escape the responsibilities of what you did in the past.

Stats would be:

+infinite cloak meter

-You lose 3% of your speed every second. (In like your 107% base speed gets slowly drained)

•The speed you lost is recovered after uncloaking at a rate of 3% per 0.5 seconds

Yes this is cloak and dagger but you dont need to stand still while cloaked in the middle of the warzone

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Might need extra downsides to avoid it becoming a better version of the stock watch.

midnight moth
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that sounds rly bad, idk the exact numbers but it sounds like u wouldnt get any farther than u would with stock because of the reduced speed

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and staying cloaked waiting in place to ambush people wont work since by the time u uncloak ur gonna be comically slow

uncut swallow
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Ren's right on this one but I'm pleasantly surprised that you actually came up with a pretty interesting concept

vestal fern
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Then i can make it 1% every second maybe

uncut swallow
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The problem really isn't how fast it drains but more how slow it comes back

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it's an interesting way of doing the Cloak and Dagger but you'd be a sitting duck for a while out of lcoak

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I'd probably have speed regain fairly fast

vestal fern
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I can buff how fast it recovers then

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Lile 5% every 0.5 seconds

uncut swallow
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I think if it were that fast you'd have to make the speed decrease faster as well? Find some sort of middle ground with testing

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If you're incentivised to use it like the cloak and dagger I think the uncloak sound effect should probably be lower potentially

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to make patient plays a bit more rewarded?

vestal fern
uncut swallow
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idk it seems like the downsides would outway that a fair bit

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you're so much slower

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you can't escape nearly as easily

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you're pretty often going to get stuck in unfavourable locations

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I think it wouldn't be frustrating to play against

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It would just be a different playstyle ?

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Interested to see what others think of a concept like this

midnight moth
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it would offer new strategies but i dont think itd be comparable to stock

uncut swallow
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I agree that it's considerably weaker than stock

vestal fern
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Maybe it caps when you're 10% slower than heavy?

uncut swallow
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I feel like capping it at heavy's speed would probably be fine if you were to go down that route

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no need to make him slower than a heavy

vestal fern
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Noted engineer_ok

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Maybe it only drains when you move and doesnt drain when you're walking while crouched?

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Maybe it could instead of slowing you down, damage you?

fresh pine
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if anything this is op you only loose 8% movement speed if you use it to the same extend as stock

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which you recover in a second

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this would be very hard to get right without it feeling janky or annoying to use and without it being too much value

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you definetly need another downside

vestal fern
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What if instead of slowing you it made you have -25 health?

hoary nova
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What about infinite cloak excites you? What are you planning to do with it?

vestal fern
uncut swallow
zealous ravine
# hoary nova What about infinite cloak excites you? What are you planning to do with it?

Most people desire infinite cloak because disguises don't fool players and the stock watch while it can help with stealth. Its stealth capabilities are limited and map dependent (it requires the map maker to not hate spy and provide spy with hiding spots).

So infinite cloak 'fixes' the issue of being spotted while getting into position, covers edge cases where your hiding spot may not be 100% perfect or just an accidental curious pyro walking into your hiding spot before an opportune moment to strike arises.

A dead ringer or le`escampette spy will be an aggressive trickstabber or a run in and out type spy.
However as of current the stealthy sam fisher spy is not in the game.

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0^ 0 I do not think infinite cloak is really the solution

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but I am one of the people that are vocal about wanting a CnD equivalent and it is exactly for that reason

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the Le`escampette while fun does not really work for many spies

fresh pine
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yea sometimes it's unavoidable but if you have so little faith in them i don't see it as anything but an acting issue

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but yea i agree that this is not how you do the more stealthy aproach

hoary nova
vestal fern
fresh pine
vestal fern
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Or i can make it Hurt you every second you're cloaked

fresh pine
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that would probably be better

vestal fern
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And caps at 65 health

fresh pine
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i honsetly i would make it drain with no cap

vestal fern
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That would put a limit on how much time you can spend cloaked

fresh pine
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i think making it just have a much longer cloak time is better than just straight up infinite

vestal fern
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Maybe like 5 damage per second?

fresh pine
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exact number doesn't really matter that can be changed later

zealous ravine
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I'm definitely one to use a disguise whenever I can but aware players will not be fooled most of the time

fresh pine
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5 would be a good number to start tho it gives you 24s of cloak

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more than enough to get you where you want if you are willing to risk your health

vestal fern
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Maybe the damage could be done by drowning, soo when you uncloak you start regaining some of your lost health?

fresh pine
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you aren't going to uncloak right behind someone unless you want to gamble them having headphones

vestal fern
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Or maybe its like the running gloves of boxing where you lose max health, but slowly regain it afterwards

fresh pine
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why even add health gain

vestal fern
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Ok then no

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Ill make a remake of this suggestion but with health drain instead of speed drain

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Spy watch: le monpère (speed drain version)