#The Duel Welder

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left spindle
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This is my second attempt to create a custom TF2C weapon! Give me your honest opinion since I'm still new to weapon making! X3

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solemn plume
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i think stun is very very annoying

left spindle
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Even for 1 second? O.o

solemn plume
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tbh even without that it would be fine

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yeah

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stun is really annoying nobody likes playing against it

left spindle
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Oooo ok! Gimmie a sec-

solemn plume
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and the building speed and whatnot would make it incredibly cracked for turtling engineers

left spindle
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Any suggestions on what the speed would be to make it more balanced? o3o

solemn plume
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i think without the extra health it would encourage engineers to be more careful with building placement

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losing 2 buildings would be exteremely painful however moving two successfully would be rewarding

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did you know that the decreased swing speed is an indirect nerf to the repair speed

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not that its bad at all

left spindle
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I did look at that and I was like "Would that be counter intuivitve?" but I wasn't really sure XD

solemn plume
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i dont think its bad at all i think its completely fair because of its upsides

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the main question i would be asking when thinking of a weapon idea is why, what for, and how it will be used.

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so what is this weapon for exactly

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whats your idea

left spindle
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I was thinking it could be good for both attack and defense honestly o3o

If you're on offense, you could push up both a sentry and a dispenser to help your team. But at the same time you'd have to be careful when doing so as a Spy could easily backstab you or a Sniper could headshot you for moving too slow. Making you think about whether it's a good idea to carry one building and play it safe. Or carry both and go for a high risk high reward

For defense, it can save you time during set up time by upgrading the buildings at your spawn then taking both to the front lines. Likewise, if you have cover from your team and you lose the defending point, you can grab two buildings and retreat without needing to sacrifice one

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Plus someone said you could use the Buff Engineer model for this weapon and I thought that would be funny-

solemn plume
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i see

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i am guessing it rewards positioning too

left spindle
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Yep, if you put em in the right spot it could benefit you and your team. If not, a few good rockets or pills by the enemy and all that walking and work goes down the drain +3+

high panther
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defo a cool idea to carry 2 buildings, but i the extra max health is a little bananas. being able to tank 2 headshots from sniper is a big deal as engi

sharp radish
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175 health is a bit overkill

merry surge
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I do like the idea of moving multiple buildings at once

sharp radish
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It's good for offensive engie so moving your nest is easier

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But other than that not much

onyx dock
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Why decrease the carrying speed? This had the potential to replace the eureka effects ability to quickly set up in places without metal.

sharp radish
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The carrying speed isn't really the problem i'd say. as i said outside of offense engie moving up his shit i don't see any point

onyx dock
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The hell it isn't. 50 extra max health is sooo stupid its not even worth mentioning. But carrying two buildings is such a cool unique idea that could actually work.

sharp radish
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And i think the whole carrying your stuff forward could be done better and ngl i think i know how to

sharp radish
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Also you missed the opertunity to call this weapon the dual welder.

left spindle
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I actually WAS gonna call it that originally XD

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I appreciate all the feedback on this weapon so I'll tweak it and see what y'all think of the changes later today! X3

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Hmmm, actually I was thinking of another way of doing it but I wanted to see what y'all think o3o

Instead of making it a melee weapon, instead it would be a secondary. This way you can choose which sentry you could pair with it!

So you could have the ability of moving up a normal/artillery sentry and a dispenser. Or, you can move up a teleporter exit and dispenser while having a mini sentry as cover!

What do you guys think? To OP or could it work? o3o

grim dust
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isn't melee swing speed around 0.6 seconds? so 0.5 sec swing speed would be a buff?

left spindle
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Oops, I meant for that to be .7 seconds, my bad XD

left spindle
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Made some adjustments. What do you all think now? ^3^

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The Duel Welder

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Now Engie won't be so tanky against Snipers but still vulnerable to headshots

You can still use a melee which means you can use either Mini, Normal or Artillery

And it can be better at helping both offense and defense!

This would be kinda like the Mantreads or the Gunboats for an Engie. Not a weapon but a tool ^3^

solemn plume
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i am the evil ura manne

left spindle
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O

solemn plume
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so theres no longer a longer attack delay?

left spindle
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No cause you can't attack with this weapon. It's primarily an assist tool like the Mantreads or the Wrangler X3

solemn plume
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i see

high panther
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seems legit

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useful on offense but not overpowering

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because you trade the self defense of the pistol/ movement of the coilgun

sharp radish
coarse ingot
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i think for the custom weapons that make different sentries

left spindle
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Yeah what ArtZy said! You can pair the Duel Welder with different wrenches that build different sentries X3

sharp radish
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Do you mean you can equip multiple wrenches...

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How would that even work

left spindle
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I'm trying me best I'm not Uncle Dane dang it qwq;

sharp radish
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you made the weapon so you should be able to explain to me what this means

left spindle
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Alright lemme see if I can-

Primary - Shotgun
Secondary - Duel Welder
Melee - Wrench

This loadout means you can build a normal sentry and carry it along with one other building

But you can also change it up to make

Primary - Shotgun
Secondary - Duel Welder
Melee - Artillery Wrench

Now you can build an Artillery Sentry and carry it along with one other building

And so on and so forth-

sharp radish
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So why does that text exist at all

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That it is able to carry replacement buildings would be common sense

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I am just overthinking stuff then

left spindle
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You'd think that, but trust me for weapon details in TF2 you GOTTA be specific cause some peeps won't understand XD

sharp radish
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But i don't see how anyone can interpret that you can't move a jump pad

left spindle
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So you're saying before the text change you knew you could carry a normal sentry and another building, but switch wrenches to instead use other sentries. That you weren't just locked into one? o3o

sharp radish
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Yes that would be pretty common sense

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It just allows you to carry 2 buildings so there isn't even any confusion to be had

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"Allows user to use different sentries" sounds like it is a sentry replacement

left spindle
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We got freaking Albert Einstein over here-

Alright I'll change it XD

sharp radish
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I didn't know albert einstein only had 2 braincells

left spindle
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XDDDD

sharp radish
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I may not be below average after all

left spindle
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There we go, posted the wrong one before XD

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