Weapon Idea: Garrote wire

[ruby cape]

This ain’t my YER.

[glossy osprey]

How would you change it

Pls help me

[ruby cape]

Well I don’t think giving a Wire is a good idea. His knife is just as Iconic as Soldier with a Rocket launcher. Takes away what makes him Spy.

[glossy osprey]

To be fair tf2c does have some drastic changes from the classes iconic weapon such as the nailgun. Yes its in the first trailer. However, its drastically different looking from the iconic scattergun yet fits his core

[fierce idol]

I support giving spy more espionage variety, seems like this one would also have the downside of only being able to “backstab”? I can’t picture it being easy to do a front attack

[true terrace]

i think the eternal reward should be a disguise kit.

[ruby cape]

I mean scouts iconic for being fast, often being shown off with his bat more In the videos, the scattergun isn’t as iconic as scout just being fast.

It’s like engineer and his buildings, changing them out for like a jetpack just doesn’t fit.

The AA maybe different to the minigun, but it’s still a HEAVY weapon for the Guy. Not some light weight LMG that removes the power and rev up. It’s just not for Heavy.

[glossy osprey]

good idea

[glossy osprey]

I mean this is still a stealth weapon.

[ruby cape]

But it’s not as cool as Spy flipping out the knife, doing a little trick, right before the stab.

[glossy osprey]

he could pull it out, extend it to show the wire off, and it like snaps back. For backstabs, he does like a quick garrote and leaves dead people in like a stationary choked position

[ruby cape]

Ah wait… problem… he needs both hands don’t he?

Would overlap the watch.

[haughty wadi]

3rd hand?

[glossy osprey]

No when idle hes holding the wires in one hand but when his back is behind someone he would extend it with his other hand

And make the animation not play when cloaked since you cant backstab anyway when cloaked

[night plume]

Don't try to argue with them, some people are just hell bent on being "in the right" and being contrarian for the sake of it. This idea rocks.

[ruby cape]

Tf is that suppose to mean.

[glossy osprey]

I didnt start it dont ask me

[glossy osprey]

Idk thank ya i guess

[ruby cape]

Apparently voicing concerns about ideas is “being in the right” I suppose.

Like yeah on paper it’s cool. But that mostly comes down to it already borrowing ideas from the YER that is a personal favourite.

Plus when I think it over… this wouldn’t work with the Tranq at all, since you can butter anyone with it in an emergency (as much as I hate the Tranq as it is)

[glossy osprey]

Can you give me ideas to like keep the concept but make it distinct from the YER

Like maybe suggest new downsides

[ruby cape]

That’s kinda hard, Since this seems to be a stealth tool, but the YER covered both parts to that. Being a silent Killer & Stealing disguises.

I think a downside could be no Spywalking, so you have to commit to a disguise and can’t run a Full speed as a Heavy.

[glossy osprey]

Good idea

[glossy osprey]

On a different note thanks for telling me i can spywalk

[ruby cape]

It’s one of the few QoL that makes Spy less ass to play as, instead of using the same 2 disguises.

Plus a heavy running at Mach 8 is funny as hell to see when it happens.

[glossy osprey]

Probably the closest to sprinting tf2 ever gets

[ruby cape]

Scout can sprint… he just has it Locked at all times.

[glossy osprey]

Anyways can you rate the revised stats (idk if 50% less cloak sound is OP)

[ruby cape]

It’s says a “Silent backstab” but then claims to makes a Choking noise on “Backstabs”

And I think the quieter cloak would be a problem due to the old YER item set being basically silent, even on the DR.

Then comes the “Choking” animation itself which would need all 10 classes to have new animations play just for that I presume. So that depends how much the devs give in to the wire instead of the knifes.

Losing half your cloak for a manual disguise sounds fair compared to all of it from the YER.

And then again, the lack of “butter knives” making the Tranq obsolete for a load out or focusing on just a get away tool (which would be an upside to me, but a lot of others would disagree)

[glossy osprey]

I changed it a bit and removed the choke thing. So about the tranq, i feel its still useful as you can disorienate people and like cloak away

[ruby cape]

Maybe, but that’s not what people use it for now days (unfortunately)

[glossy osprey]

In that case its just a crutch to butterfly noobs

[ruby cape]

https://tenor.com/view/i-said-that-several-times-john-mulaney-saturday-night-live-i-said-that-many-times-i-repeat-myself-gif-25067644

[glossy osprey]

Ohwell

[haughty wadi]

IT was once a good concept, now ruined

[burnt sphinx]

No extra cloak drain on a YER is always a great thing to see

I saw this in another suggestion, but maybe Silent killer could also mute/gag dead players while they're respawning?

So they can't call out for a few seconds

garrote wire is a really clever choice visually. When I imagined a hypothetical YER I always went with like a quick neck snap with his bare hands, and this is in a very simular territory to that

Love it

[keen forge]

Adore the concept and have been egarely awaiting TF2C's answer to the YER, but the stat "You are unable to attack with it while not backstabbing" immediately makes me think of this thing having negative synergy with the Tranq Gun on the same tier of Gunboats + Dynamite Demo. I don't know if the TF2C team is trying to avoid weapons that have next to no synergy with each other but that popped out to me.

[burnt sphinx]

I think it could still be fine since the tranq makes for a good getaway tool if you whiff a stab and someone notices

[ruby cape]

Wait a minute… if you can’t attack without a backstab then you can’t break your disguise for missing because it won’t register… uh oh.

[cosmic plover]

make it do whip damage on butter knifes

[ruby cape]

https://tenor.com/view/whip-cool-whip-stewie-griffin-peter-griffin-family-guy-gif-4478720

[glossy osprey]

You can use the tranq as an escape tool