#Meutte Montre [Spy Watch]

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glacial sorrel
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A new Spy watch. Has a similar functionality to the Stock watch with a couple major changes:

Pros:

  • The decloak sound is muted

Cons:

  • 10% faster cloak drain
  • 25% less cloak from ammo crates
  • Consumes 10% cloak on initial cloak

(I'm really bad at balancing so lmk if anything here needs to be changed lol, the main gimmick should stay tho)

dusty bear
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that's... kinda worthless

glacial sorrel
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imo one of the problems with spy is that decloaking alerts people so you cant get your stab in

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this is my attempt at fixing that without making it unfair

dusty bear
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thing is decloak on its own is not worth like

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i mean essentially cloaking at all due to how much it costs with this and how its not even going to let you be fully invisible

glacial sorrel
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tbh idk why i added that shimmer radius increase

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its really unnecessary

digital zenith
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i think not being able to decloak right behind someone is a key component to making spy not ass to fight against since it'd be annoying if he could pop out of nowhere and get a stab before anyone can react

rain socket
dusty bear
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i think its fine to play around with it but this is a bit much for so little

jade root
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when it'd be useful it'd be useful im just not sure if its healthy

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yeah its harder to get in and you will need more positioning and routing knowledge to do succesfully but its still bullshit to have a spy decloak right behind you and have zero warning

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even if theres an arguable balance to it since you need more skill to get in but less to actually get the stab, it just feels like removing a mechanic that makes spy a fun class to play against

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i do agree even then its not a lot though

dusty bear
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perhaps im biased as ive made a watch like this, but also like

jade root
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so it's kinda bs when it works and kinda useless when it doesnt

dusty bear
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there's lots of ways to find out spy, even if he isnt super weak like he is in live

jade root
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but its not like it actually takes that much effort for spy to hide the decloak sound imo

dusty bear
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one of the main ways to counter him is to make sure he doesnt get into a position to get a stab anyways

jade root
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if theres a big concentration of people its not usually gonna be an issue because theres a lot of noise due to the nature of this game

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if there isnt then you can decloak from farther up to get your stab since theres less eyes on the pick

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it feels like it can be more annoying than effective somewhat

dusty bear
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what im saying is i dont believe in a mechanic being quote unquote "unhealthy" for the game, but even if i did idk if decloak is uber essential to stay

jade root
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removing it punishes like, beginner snipers and tunnelvision engis and basically nobody else

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to say it simply: removing decloak from base watch does very little and the little it does punishes beginner players and basically nobody else

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so i somewhat agree with the fact its not a lot but i dont agree with the idea that it can just be "buffed" into being good because i think good applications of it against players of equal skill are few and far between

dusty bear
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that's fair enough

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feels more like something that'd be apart of a main gimmick, like uhh

jade root
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no decloak noise AND less decloak time hell yea

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fuck em snipers

jade root
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silent decloak would actually be useful here because using it in tandem with a reduced decloak time means that you can get picks on isolated targets really fast and really easily, while also letting you pick targets in huge crowds with your healing and cloak

dusty bear
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esp since it tethers you to enemies

jade root
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yeah it actually lets you stalk them and take your time for a quick pick

dusty bear
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at least we agree it being the Main upside isnt enough for a sidegrade

jade root
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