#Aki Believers Group

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verbal whale
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normal ones are not good

regal girder
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Yea normal flip daggers is kinda

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I mean if it works then nice, but if it dont work you just lose your turn up close

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Even worse if it whiffs lol

verbal whale
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the glaring issue i’m seeing is that you don’t fireball drive rush

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it’s like playing ken but not using crmk dr

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it’s probably your strongest tool, learn how to use it

cedar wolf
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I tend to forget

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like I've done it

verbal whale
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unfort that’s like half of aki’s identity

cedar wolf
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I'm conscious I'm supposed to fireball than drive rush

regal girder
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So like

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What you can do is like throw one fireball from midscreen

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Even fullscreen and see how they react to it

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If they jump it you could aa them

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If they hold block then thats your cue to start using fireball into drive rush

verbal whale
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even if they jump you can AA from dr

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and you get a massive conversion

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with the dr sthk xx dive pickup

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dive makes them bounce on the fireball

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and you pickup again with dr stmp

regal girder
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I wish i learnt that conversion, i never could get the timing right for that

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M whip was always good enough for me when they neutral jump

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But yes the main point here

verbal whale
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first thing id fix tho is substitute the flips with ex flips

regal girder
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Is that fireball into drive rush is like

verbal whale
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maybe a bit less frequent

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then probably cut off a bit the crlks

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since they don’t really do anything

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if you wanna press something fast do jab

cedar wolf
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oh

verbal whale
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if you wanna check walk backs do crmk

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it’s not bad in oki tho

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but i’m personally not a fan at all of aki crlk

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outside of dr crlk

regal girder
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Yea id say using cr lk in oki or drive rush cr lk is better than how youd normally use it

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But yeah work on doing less risky stuff at round start

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Cuz if you blocked that h tatsu

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You definitely could've taken that round

verbal whale
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oh ye that tatsu tells us you’ve been obvious with the fireballs the last rounds

regal girder
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Ngl at round start i just hold back and see what they do

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And react to whatever they do accordingly

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Jump in -anti air

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Drive rush, st mp

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Drive impact drive impact them back

verbal whale
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regarding your neutral id suggest to go take like 2 games from broski or hikaru

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and try to see what buttons they press

regal girder
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Yea the neutral is like

verbal whale
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esp against ryu stmk is a god button

regal girder
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Its almost there

verbal whale
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crmp is also a good tool this patch

regal girder
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Also work on the oki as well

cedar wolf
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I have no idea about aki's oki

regal girder
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What

verbal whale
regal girder
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Ok we gotta fix that immediately

verbal whale
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for now it’s more than enough

cedar wolf
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yeah I do m slide or double dash after h whip

verbal whale
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youre +5

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ye it’s good enough

regal girder
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Yea m slide is good enough for a strike throw mixup

verbal whale
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be careful cause double dash is +6

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so instant throw whiffs

regal girder
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M slide into cr mk

cedar wolf
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oh

regal girder
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Or m slide into throw

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After cr mk you are +1 on block

verbal whale
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for the safejumps i’d stick to them only in the corner

regal girder
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So you still get to do stuff

verbal whale
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also after the big corner combo

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after puddle

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you either get meaty fireball

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but i’m not the biggest fan

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unless you’re against JP

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i usually do either
sthp whiff into throw
stmp to kill a bunch of frames into manually timed stuff

regal girder
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When i was in diamond i just did the whiff sweep into safejump, i didnt wanna complicate myself with the tons of options she has in the corner lol

verbal whale
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ye that gives up the puddle tho

regal girder
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Ok on the second round you're a lil too much passive

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You did od fireball at the start which is a hella goated fb imo but you didnt do anything with it

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And then i think you were kind of just waiting for something? Idk

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Missed punish on the blocked DP thats hella important

cedar wolf
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yeah I dunno what I was doing

regal girder
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Ok so second round, try to ease up on the cower crouch approaching, its good when you have a fireball read on your opponent

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However if hes doing nothing then you're leaving yourself open a lot, especially when cower crouch kicks whiffs

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So the main things to work on is number 1 oki, number 2 fireball into drive rush at midscreen

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Number 3 working on neutral (can easily be fixed by just watching another aki player)

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And a little bit less reliance on flip daggers id say, the normal versions at least

cedar wolf
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alright

regal girder
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Oh and also just try waiting at round start and see what they do

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Take information of your opponent

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If they're passive then you can prolly get away with round start fireball drive rush and then boom you're in

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Other wise, react according to what they do

cedar wolf
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trying to do all this and rank up in this game is angering

modest fox
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take a break if you're getting tilted

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it will do wonders for your rank

cedar wolf
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I dunno how you guys do this

regal girder
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Take a break, go outside

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Or just find a way to chill while gaming

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Like

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Throughout the end of plat and going into diamond, i started playing my music in the back while gaming and turns out im more confident the more chill i am so

cedar wolf
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i

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will get high instead

regal girder
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Orrr that

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Yeah

cedar wolf
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i did successfully stop drive rush with st. mp today though, a few times

weary widget
modest fox
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do what exactly

verbal whale
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since to improve something you do “badly” you have to do it a lot

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but since it’s something that usually lacks in your gameplay it’s surely not your strongest suit, so doing it at the beginning will result in losses

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but long term improving brings wins

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god video from probably the best content creator about improving

slender bone
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it's a nice vid

cedar wolf
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i'll check it out at some point

cedar wolf
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Still not really understanding my gameplan with AKI

slender bone
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are you doing fireball dr

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or raw Dr button

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did you stop doing things like venomous fang, od cruel fate

cedar wolf
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uh

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mostly

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but without all that I'm lost

slender bone
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what was your cfn again

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I need to look at what's going on

cedar wolf
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TheCommissioner

slender bone
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oh nice and simple

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ok I watched one of the Juri matches
I actually do not know for what purpose you were pressing many of these buttons

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it almost felt like a button check in some spots

cedar wolf
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I didn't know what to do

slender bone
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Start with a simple plan and don't deviate with "fake" stuff

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If the plan is fireball > DR
or DR button
whiffing mp lash, doing yolo venomous fang, yolo DI, st.hk, f.hk from full screen should not be something you are doing

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the reason for that is
If you don't have a reason for doing those things don't do them
if it's bad reason, that's fine because then you can fix it with a good reason, but no reason is stupid - you are doing yourself absolutely no favours. It doesn't help you get better, it doesn't even help you on the first step to getting better because it's mindless action

cedar wolf
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then how do you like...fix that

slender bone
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Actually map out a reason for using those things

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mp lash -
venomous fang -
DI -
st.hk (full screen) -
f.hk (full screen) -
cr.hp -

Give me a reason for these move usages

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Write down anything you can think of, and "I don't know" isn't an acceptable answer

cedar wolf
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mp lash is for aa, venomous fang to punish fireballs, di is to power through someone's moves, st. hk is a combo starter or aa, f. hk is to whiff punish, cr. hp is for sweeping

slender bone
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ok

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mp lash is not an AA in many scenarios even buffed, use hp lash, st.hk, or cr.hk
venomous fang can pretty much only be used if you're already in stance, rarely as a raw reaction but also parry, neutral jump, blocking is fine
DI is shit in almost every single scenario, use only for stun or counter DI; this is a terrible habit to have
st.hk is a combo starter or AA, but I specified full screen
f.hk can whiff punish but I specified full screen
cr.hp sucks, you will only use it when you are doing a specific combo or after st.mk PC > cr.hp, use cr.mk instead

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but also your mp lashes in these matches are not reactions
you're just sending them randomly

cedar wolf
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i thought they were gonna jump

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I don't get why you wouldn't use it as an aa

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or why not use every tool in the toolbox in general

slender bone
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because you're not using every tool to begin with

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and the ones you are using, you're using them in weird ways

cedar wolf
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oh

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so that whole list I need to keep in mind for every fight?

slender bone
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well no

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What you should be doing is narrowing down a list of moves that you know what you want to do with them, and use them a lot

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if you lose because you didn't do something else, that matters less than understanding the moves that you do use and use correctly

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There were some other moves you did which I didn't list
OD lash
cr.hk
st.mk
st.mp

but I could understand why you used those ones over the others

cedar wolf
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maybe I was tilted

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or panicking

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this game's pace is hard to keep up with sometimes

slender bone
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then slow it down

cedar wolf
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what's the difference between slowing it down and being too passive?

slender bone
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passive is doing nothing because you aren't expecting anything
slowing it down is you're not being the aggressor but looking for something from the opponent counter - a jump, raw DI, drive rush

cedar wolf
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makes sense

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So what moves should I absolutely not use anymore?

slender bone
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All moves have situational use but the moves above you just need to rework when and where you use them

cedar wolf
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I think I get it

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I am particularly at a loss when it comes to what to do in neutral though

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And in the corner

slender bone
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neutral is easy

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"don't play it"

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end it as fast as possible

cedar wolf
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I've been repeatedly perfect ko'd as soon as I get cornered

slender bone
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well that's when you have to learn defense and that shit sucks

cedar wolf
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I tend to wakeup throw or parry or try and jump out

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And yeah I know I need to just block but

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I want to get out

slender bone
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ye that shit be scary

cedar wolf
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So I guess that can be my homework, using moves with more thought

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Or pretty much just slow down

slender bone
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If you know why you're using those buttons, just think about using them in a different way
or if you feel like playing casuals for some reason - pick a single button and use it 3x as much as all the other buttons

cedar wolf
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Oh yeah there are non ranked games

regal girder
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The best thing that helped me learn aki quickly is to not overcomplicate it, i literally did the same 3 things in neutral and pressuring and i managed to get to master

slender bone
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I also did the same few set of moves

cedar wolf
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What moves were they

regal girder
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Well fireball into drive rush is a big part of it

slender bone
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j.hp > cr.lp > cr.lp xx hp lash > f.dash f.dash > cr.lk or cr.mk
st.mp xx DR st.mk > st.hk xx heel strike > cr.lp
one corner safe jump
st.hk PC hk cruel fate > cr.lp

I didn't use:

  • st.lk
  • any version of cruel fate outside of corner combo
  • cr.mp
  • st.lp TC
  • st.hp
  • f.hp
  • cr.hp
  • cr.hk
  • hp bubble outside of corner
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I didn't do fireball DR when I was climbing

cedar wolf
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Maybe I will do that

slender bone
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I kept it simple because I am a gorilla with small memory so why complicate it for myself

regal girder
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The time to get saucy with aki is after youve managed to make a base for yourself as a player

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Meaning just keep it simple

cedar wolf
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I will try this then

cedar wolf
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see now I feel like I'm just purposefully handicapping myself

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and that isn't fun

slender bone
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I dunno man

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It's either play simply or play poorly

cedar wolf
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like I'm not even sure what to do here

slender bone
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using a bunch of tools badly isn't helping you

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using few tools well, will

cedar wolf
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so just j. hp, st. mp or st. hk

slender bone
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I used some other buttons that lead into moves I had practiced a lot but didn't use many things because I didn't "need" them

regal girder
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so like if you use a lot of tools without really knowing how to use them, you're just gonna end up confusing yourself at the end of the day

cedar wolf
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well now I'm just flailing with st. mp trying to hit them

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I guess I shouldn't be doing ranked yet

cedar wolf
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st. mp doesn't even reach

cedar wolf
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and when do I use st. hk?

slender bone
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when you're in their balls

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otherwise to AA

cedar wolf
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so far I am failing to stick to this

slender bone
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why is that

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what are you reverting to

cedar wolf
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venomous fang, serpent slide, all my normals

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mp lash

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ex slide

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DI

slender bone
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and they have done you no good, I imagine

cedar wolf
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Sometimes yes, sometimes not

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but it's like reflexively doing it

slender bone
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unfortunate

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really have to focus hard if you want to break bad habits

cedar wolf
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yeah and not do this in ranked

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I will be able to do this better in casual or lounges

slender bone
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It can be done in ranked but why have additional pressure when you don't need to

cedar wolf
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Yeah I'm just a numbers addict

fickle sundial
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dont forget that ranked allows for you to play with people in YOUR skill level and that's the primary point. Numbers and ranked_image.jpg are just not smth to concern with mate

cedar wolf
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still if I need to break these habits I need to hit the other modes

slender bone
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yeah playing a ft50 in which you make the whole set while working on those issues is huge since doing something similar in ranked will take forever

cedar wolf
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so what should be my go-to antiair?

slender bone
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but st.hk is good
hp lash is decent

cedar wolf
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why cr. hk? The range?

modest fox
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it's a busted normal anti-air imo

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great range, great hitbox

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gets full combos on PC

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even better if opp is poisoned

cedar wolf
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I will try and use that more then

modest fox
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combo on PC is raw DR into st.lk, heavy lash if I'm not mistaken

slender bone
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I just like it

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I am mostly a one track mind when I do anti-airs
I pick one and pretty much only use that one

modest fox
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why do you like it

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i like it as well

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because it's good and easy

slender bone
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probably because I spend a lot of time crouching

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so it's easy access

regal girder
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Its a simple anti air so i like

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But most of the time i try going for h whip cuz of the oki

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Even better when they are poisoned and i get a conversion so I can make them contemplate about jumping

cedar wolf
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bryan f just put out a video on tilt that I am watching, and it is resonating with me

slender bone
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I wonder if it's a rehash of something he did years ago

regal girder
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Brine

cedar wolf
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i never saw any old ones either

cedar wolf
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I did some casuals with a minimum of moves I think

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cr. mk instead of sweep more, more st. mp, more cr. hk anti air

modest fox
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are you using them purposefully or just because you're "supposed" to use them

cedar wolf
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no idea what you mean

cedar wolf
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still not really sure what I'm supposed to be practicing

regal girder
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There is a difference between pressing buttons for the sake of pressing them

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Vs pressing a button with intent/purpose

cedar wolf
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I'm just trying to hit them

regal girder
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Right but with what

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Cuz im sure you know that certain ranges means you gotta use certain buttons/moves so that they reach

cedar wolf
regal girder
slender bone
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I gave you what you should be practicing

regal girder
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denz PepeHug

cedar wolf
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minimizing my moves right?

slender bone
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yes but also the ones that you do use, use them with an actual purpose - you had a purpose but it was wacky so I said use them in this way instead

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No reason < bad reason < good reason

cedar wolf
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I guess that's something I just need to figure out then

slender bone
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I don't think you need to figure it out per se
Use them how I suggested you use them
Unless you mean figure out how to internalize those usages

cedar wolf
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yeah that

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wait I can't find your suggestions in the backscroll

slender bone
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I guess they weren't laid out clean but let me fix that

mp lash - use this from very far away, particularly if they jump your fireball from more than 3-4 dashes away
venomous fang - only do this if you're already in stance from 2-3 dash distances away and you see a fireball
DI - only 2 scenarios; counter DI or you're going to stun them with DR cr.mp xx DI
st.hk (full screen) - this is not a full screen move, use it much closer
f.hk (full screen) - this is not a full screen move, use it much closer
cr.hp - only use this after st.mk PC -> cr.hp combo

cedar wolf
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yeah there we go

cedar wolf
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alright I did likt a ft20 casual set with some random manon, we were about evenly matched. Keeping in mind all that shit up there, I didn't do venomous fang more than once and that was by accident, did DI like maybe three times, mp lash hit more often

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didn't quite shake off sweeping though, and I was a bit closer for f.hk and st. hk but still whiffed them a few times

regal girder
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could prolly ease up on the use of fhk in neutral btw

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it's too slow and lacks some range for neutral

cedar wolf
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yeah but it's fun to catch them pressing a button

slender bone
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I use f.hk too much personally instead of st.hk to shimmy

regal girder
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i only use f hk for oki, or doing it from drive rush after fireball

slender bone
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that's a personal issue I have

cedar wolf
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when can you use f. hk as oki

slender bone
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usually in the corner

regal girder
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after h whip knockdown, or in the corner

cedar wolf
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like do I dash up and do it or

regal girder
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for h whip, i just drive rush in, if you do it at the right timing, it's also DI safe too

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i just do it from drive rush tbh

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hella deadly mixup pressure from that, because +6 on block goes brrrrr

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but that's good that you had a long set with someone

cedar wolf
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yeah I felt zen

regal girder
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having long sets with people helps a LOT with learning how to take notes of someones play style, while working on your own gameplan

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that's why i didn't ranked for the longest time, because the sets of ranked are way too short for me to try and adapt to anything

cedar wolf
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mostly it was me just defending against manon's normals until I thought I saw an opening

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or punishing her sweep or jump kick

regal girder
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that's why I sucked in sf5 as well, i never got the time to do long sets with anyone, so the only way how I thought was the way to improve was just spam ranked

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that led to no improvement to me in all of my hours in 5

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in 6 i just had a new slate, relearned footsies, neutral, all that stuff

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and now i'm literally chilling with the game cuz of the long ass sets i had with various people here lol

cedar wolf
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it's better if they are around my level

regal girder
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that's how you start improving

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it is a very good thing that you're able to find the openings of the manon

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you should try doing sets with some people in sf lobbies channel that are around your level too, doing this literally helps you in the long run as long as you're actively learning and taking notes of your opponent

cedar wolf
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I should

regal girder
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that's how I learned man

slender bone
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like you, I played a lot of SFV

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so I did not play long sets with people in SF6 to improve
I just played ranked

regal girder
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i wasn't good at either one of them lmao, i only recently got decent-ish at 6 lol

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i still need a lot of time to get better, up to the point where I think is good enough for me

cedar wolf
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I'm still struggling with everyone outranging me with their normals

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It's pissing me off, I can't even get close to hit them, or I'm always whiff punkshed

sand echo
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Hi Guys! Just joined this discord! Do we have anyone here offering Aki Coaching? I have around 120h in the game, i have reached Diamond with Gief and Diamon 2 with Aki in this time-frame, looking to improve!

regal girder
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Barca is our main guy here but he switched to ken lol

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You still got a lot of aki masters here tho so just ask any questions whenever you got any and someone will respond

weary widget
weary widget
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I defo could’ve done better but I played my heart out

cedar wolf
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Oh you're at evo too, nice

sand echo
weary widget
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Second time coming here

cedar wolf
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fuck sagat how do I fight him as aki

cedar wolf
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it is really hard not to just do her drill dive

weary widget
# cedar wolf fuck sagat how do I fight him as aki

Depends on what youre dealing with cause both light slide and coward crouch go under tiger knee and high shot low shot is honestly her bigest problem in this mu but its one that can be played around by timing your jump ins and or doing flip

cedar wolf
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I'm constantly ghetting lightr whip jumped

weary widget
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Ngl youre probably just over using it then

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or being very predictable

cedar wolf
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i don't get aki

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how the fuck do I play her

modest fox
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fireball drive rush 🙂

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poison into 1 million damage

cedar wolf
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trying to get to master is aging me rapidly

modest fox
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dont focus on the rank it doesnt matter

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what have you been trying to learn recently?

cedar wolf
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a whole lot of nothing

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maybe a new wallsplat combo

modest fox
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no wonder youre getting frustrated

cedar wolf
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yeah I wanna die

modest fox
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okay calm down man

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want me to take a look at a game?

cedar wolf
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sure

modest fox
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just watched the game again "bumpasaurus" who was playing Ryu

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this guy mustve jumped like 20 times and you antiaired him once

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you dropped a lv1 conversion where you shouldve not even done lv1 (you had him in the corner with the bnb, just poison him and continue pressure)

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you died due to a random DI

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I dont think learning a new wallsplat combo is the killer plan you need to get to master

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first round you didnt do much really, you just stood around and got jumped on

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I dont think I saw a single fireball

cedar wolf
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I was probably mad tilted at that point from previous losses

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so my gameplay falls apart very easily

modest fox
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second game against him youre antiairing more, still doing random DI and throw when youre minus

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you autopilot a lot of stuff, like walkback sthk xx h cruel fate

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also sthk xx stance kicks, this one is especiallly bad because this Ryu has shown he will DI that move

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wakeup lv2, not sure what the idea was, that move is not invincible nor would it have killed ryu if he did something silly

modest fox
cedar wolf
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not particularly

modest fox
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okay, watching vs DeeJay Huev0sFritos22

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first round definitely seems more solid than the other game I watched

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I suggest blocking more on defense, you get counterhit a lot when it's their turn

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randomly doing stance dive gets you punish countered

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try to have a plan if youre doing jabs, you get one hit in and then do nothing

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dont do random DI

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second round seems like a bunch of unlucky stuff until you do lv1 on wakeup while Deejay is fullscreen away

cedar wolf
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i dive or DI because I feel like I'm gonna catch them and they are stupid

modest fox
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and what happens when they dont?

cedar wolf
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but then I don't

modest fox
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DJ dropped a lot of stuff, then you dropped a lot of stuff and lost anyway

cedar wolf
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denzel told me not to random DI already but that is going to be a long time until I stop

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because it's a reflex now

modest fox
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yeah I get it

cedar wolf
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same with diving

modest fox
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but dont try to explain "why" you DI or random dive

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there is no reason

cedar wolf
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I guess that means autoplay

modest fox
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yeah you autopilot a lot and it gets you killed

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slow down

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or just do fireball drive rush into strike / throw / shimmy for free wins

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only halfjoking there

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you were also doing a lot of cruel fate randomly which worked out but I dont recommend doing that

cedar wolf
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so I need to be less aggressive?

modest fox
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not necesserally, you need to think more about what youre doing and why youre doing it

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right now youre just doing stuff

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why do you do cruel fate? why do you dive? why do you DI? it's all autopilot

cedar wolf
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I get told that a lot, yeah.

modest fox
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why do you do sthk xx h cruel fate

cedar wolf
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but how do I like...focus.

modest fox
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autopilot again

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cut down what youre doing to the essentials

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you dont need dive, you dont need DI, you dont need cruel fate

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you need a bnb (which you dropped at crucial moments), you need a punish bnb

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you dont need fireball DR but it turns the game heavily in your favor

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I used to win a lot of games by doing fireball, DR stmp throw

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do that twice, then shimmy them

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now I'm not saying you need to rely on gimmicks

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but like, you dont have to overcomplicate stuff and throw out a bunch of shit

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same thing on defense: you tech even when they havent shown you throw on wakeup yet, you do lv1 even though the opponent is nowhere near

cedar wolf
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yeah I do that tech thing a lot and get blown up for it

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like if they neutral jump

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I don't think I will ever fully understand it

modest fox
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what do you mean

cedar wolf
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so I should only try to tech on wakeup if they have previously thrown me on wakeup?

modest fox
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it's how I do it mostly

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you get counterhit a lot because you tech

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do you know about delay tech?

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it's when you tech late which allows you to both block their meaty attack as well as tech their meaty throw

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right now I think youre just doing instant tech which is why you get counterhit into a combo every time

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delay tech is really strong but if they notice youre doing delay tech, they might shimmy or neutral jump to get a fat punish counter combo

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I just dont tech a lot, I'd rather take the small amount of throw damage and inferior pressure than a full combo into good oki

cedar wolf
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I've had delay tech explained several times since sf5 but I don't think it's clicked yet

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so it's only on wakeup?

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like I could just never try and tech

modest fox
modest fox
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see how that works out

cedar wolf
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see that's what I don't get. If I do or don't it feels like I just lose either way

modest fox
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taking a throw - 1200 damage

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teching and eating a meaty - 3000 damage

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you should be blocking way more than you should be teching

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right now its the opposite

cedar wolf
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it's another knee-jerk reaction I have to get rid of

modest fox
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yes

cedar wolf
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so, give me some goals for my next fights. Would not trying to tech so much be one?

modest fox
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blocking on wakeup, not using DI as a panic button

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probably the biggest ones

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along with not dropping your basic combo and not doing random special moves

slender bone
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you can delay tech at literally any time

modest fox
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I thought so but I dont wanna spread information im not sure about

slender bone
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block an attack? slight pause, press throw
waking up? slight pause, press throw

max screen, no chance of attack? slight pause, press throw

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it's the same action in every scenario

cedar wolf
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I do it when I'm blocking their combos

slender bone
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yeah, it's valid there too

cedar wolf
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or sometimes cr. lp x2, st. lk, mp lash

modest fox
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yeah that's good

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you also know the punish counter sthk heavy cruel fate one

cedar wolf
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yeah hp cruel fate and then the rest

regal girder
cedar wolf
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nah I don't know any frame data

regal girder
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Thats important to know

modest fox
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I saw you try to use crmp a lot to take back your turn, try stmp instead

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crmp is 7 frames, stmp is 6

cedar wolf
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oh

modest fox
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or jabs of course

cedar wolf
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how does one remember frame data?

modest fox
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you dont need to remember everything

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4 frame startup (crlp) and 6 frame startup (stmp) are important for punish situations or taking your turn back

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for example drive reversal is -6 on block so you can punish it with your stmp

cedar wolf
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I hope I figure all this shit out

modest fox
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for now you need to block on wakeup and stop doing DI

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and think about what youre doing during a match instead of autopiloting

cedar wolf
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I've tried but I can't stop and think about literally everything I wanna do

modest fox
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okay you don't have to actively think about every single thing but you do have to think somewhat right

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right now you're sending stuff without rhyme or reason or so it seems

cedar wolf
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so If I block on wakeup and I'm just sitting there doing it, what then

regal girder
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Well lemme ask you

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If your opp knows their meaties

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Whats the better option so that you dont take dmg

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Mash lp on wakeup or hold block on wakeup

cedar wolf
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I dunno. block?

regal girder
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Well yes

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If you block on wakeup you dont take dmg from their meaty hit

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If you press something on wakeup you are very likely to get hit

cedar wolf
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but when what do I do if I'm just sitting there blocking

modest fox
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they do their thing, you block it, there you go you can play the game again

slender bone
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the way you remember anything is grinding specific scenarios

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you block drev

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why would you press crmp when it works exactly 0 times?

cedar wolf
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you don't even play the game anymore

slender bone
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Yeah but I still have knowledge

regal girder
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Respectfully, denzel got a lot more knowledge about the game than a good amount of us here, he has the coach icon for a reason lul

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So it would be a good idea to listen to what he has to say since there is a reason why hes saying it

cedar wolf
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fuck all this shit actually

modest fox
cedar wolf
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sorry my drinking put me in a dark mood

cedar wolf
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how do I train myself to not get irrationally angry at modern controls users

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because if I'm losing my brain wants to think they're cheating despite the damage lowered

slender bone
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It's hard because you know the root of the reason why you hate them and it's up to you to reason your way out of that hate

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they only have lowered damage on 2 things tho
raw specials and supers
everything else is normal damage

cedar wolf
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maybe I just need to not look at the M

slender bone
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a big thing is just because they're M doesn't mean they make good decisions

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these are her ranked matches lifetime

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nearly 7200 ranked matches

cedar wolf
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damn

slender bone
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this is me in comparison

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we are similar MR ranges

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M doesn't make decision making easier, only some execution things

cedar wolf
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Yeah it just gets harder when on the losing end and that execution thing is in the back of my head

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but anyways I am working on just blocking more and not worrying about getting thrown rn

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today I may eat my vegetables and finally make use of replay mode

weary widget
regal girder
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I just learned the new corner combo you can do with aki its so badass bro

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And does more dmg than the one i usually do

modest fox
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which one is that?

regal girder
# modest fox which one is that?

If you do pc st hk xx stance dive (detonate), you can do st hk drc st hk m whip into m whip (detonate), pdr st hk drc st hk xx l m flip daggers into lvl 3

slender bone
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st.hk PC starter while they are already poisoned

regal girder
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Sad world innit

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What i havent tried out is like

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If you can do it from m whip detonate

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Like m whip while theyre poisoned on the ground

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And then st hk drc st hk m whip ...

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Hmmm

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Cuz like od whip applies poison

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Oh shit it works??

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God i love aki

modest fox
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sounds cool B) haven't played AKI in forever im a low master Terry champ now

regal girder
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The basic combo i do for corner st hk pc only does like 6.2 k dmg

modest fox
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only buffpeepo

regal girder
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This one with all them m whips does 6.7k Pog

modest fox
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how much drive

regal girder
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Cashout combos

modest fox
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pretty good

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never OD DP while poisoned ❤️

regal girder
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Thats why my brother hates aki lul

cedar wolf
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I noticed my coward crouch gets hit by sagat's DI even if I'm not doing the kicks

modest fox
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yeah it has a weird hitbox, not sure if that's intended

slender bone
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It's not likely

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he's the only one who does it

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and it works on all low profile things

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maybe they are experimenting with DI working against all low profile moves, which would make the answer to AKI slither pressure be "just always DI"

cedar wolf
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still really struggling to fight sagat without resorting to coward crouch dive or DI

slender bone
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it's the same as Guile

cedar wolf
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Uh I dunno how to fight Guile either

weary widget
# cedar wolf still really struggling to fight sagat without resorting to coward crouch dive o...

Ex whip to beat fireball, cruel fate reliably goes over low shot, you can react to low shot pretty well with dive at the mid screen distance, use heavy bubble/light whip to end your block strings, ex fire ball will get you in decently well and if they counter with ex high shot just do light slide/coward crouch, and if they really like high shot 2.Hk and coward crouch roll beat it and net you a good reward

cedar wolf
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my light whip still gets jumped over or DI'd all the time

modest fox
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youre probably being too obvious then

slender bone
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sometimes you just get cooked

regal girder
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You're using it too much or just really really unfortunate timing

cedar wolf
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I actually looked at a replay for once and did the player control thing

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Mostly I saw that if I reacted to a bunch of di or a whiffed throw I could have taken a round

regal girder
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Good, so now you identified what you could've done better

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So now you got goals to work and try to implement in future games

modest fox
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hey thats great man

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I should do that more myself

regal girder
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Being shimmied by aki really really hurts

modest fox
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never tech ❌
never reversal ❌
block and take the throw ✅

slender bone
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tech immediately, no delay ✅
randomly sa1 during their blockstrings ✅
f.jump out of the corner 4x in a row ✅
don't press on their plus frames ❌

modest fox
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always forward jump got it

regal girder
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Always lvl 1 on wakeup ✅
Always get in with cruel fate ✅
Block ❌

modest fox
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taking notes rn

weary widget
cedar wolf
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should I also stick to like one move for anti airing

regal girder
cedar wolf
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the other challenge right now is to not rage against every single character I lose to

regal girder
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Tip number 1 of playing fgs, never take it personally, cuz its just a game

slender bone
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or only take it personally and use that rage to get better

modest fox
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staying calm ❌
analysing gameplay ❌
raging ✅
make it personal ✅
doxx people you lose against ✅

regal girder
weary widget
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If they're poisoned then I'll have 236.Mp or 236.Hp in my mind activley looking for it but if its not on my mental stack then 2 and 5.Hk are just what I default to

cedar wolf
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juri's a piece of shit character too how do I deal with her normals

slender bone
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which ones in particular

cedar wolf
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hold on someone left after 1-1 and I gotta cool off

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cr. mk mostly

cedar wolf
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here's another thing pissing me off

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why does the opponent sometimes block in time during my coward crouch kick, cr. lp x2 into hp lash string?

modest fox
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if they block after you start the combo you just dropped it

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or is that not what you meant

cedar wolf
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yeah it's between coward crouch kicks and then the cr. lp

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is there some sort of timing to it

modest fox
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so the coward crouch kicks hit right?

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it's a link to crlp yeah

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so of course you gotta time it right

cedar wolf
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I just try and mash them out as soon as the kicks go

modest fox
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well

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dont do that

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try to practice correctly without mashing

slender bone
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They can only block if you fuck up

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There's nothing else going on

weary widget
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What exactly are you struggling with outside of her normals cause AKI can out range her using 2.Hk

slender bone
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I imagine Sagat's low shot hits all of Aki's normal fireball avoidance except venomous fang, ye?

weary widget
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Not really it’s weird

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She can do heavy flip from a distance and punish on a reaction if you’re fast enough

slender bone
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but sinister slither / lk snake step don't beat/avoid low shot?

weary widget
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No

slender bone
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rip

regal girder
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Hey @weary widget if you got time, would you mind looking at some replays of mine where I play aki? I feel like i could be doing better options, however i wouldnt really know what those options are. My main plan throughout my time playing aki is mainly just fireball drive rush but as i recently learned, thats never going to cut it consistently

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Ig what im trying to ask is what i could alter about my gameplan to have a more consistent means of options, as opposed to just doing fullscreen fireball drive rush

weary widget
regal girder
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Lemme check em out first before i send

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So my cfn is CantCounterDI and ill just send some replays that were towards the end of entire sets if thats cool

weary widget
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OK

regal girder
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Ok so we got

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JHGMWT7HD
CX7L3SGGH
TVF7NUUJF

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And ig to end it QJ5J5KJKW

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That last one is when i fought housemans sagat in a set, it was pretty brutal, but i think a factor of it was definitely lack of matchup knowledge, however when i fought his sagat, i realized a problem where if im outranged by a char with pretty good normals, then i dont really know what to do

weary widget
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Ok Ill take a gander and see what Im working with

regal girder
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Theres definitely something to poke at for basically all the matches im ngl lol

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I kinda just picked randoms ones, all the matches were just me getting washed

weary widget
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Ok so it feels like you dont know how to establish your presence on the screen

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Also in that second round of the sagat match you had him in checkmate

regal girder
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When fireball drive rush stops working, i just dont really know how to work with that really

weary widget
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So AKI has a good amount of buttons to do that in way of 2.Hk, 5.Mk, 5.Mp, 5/6.Hp, gotta rotate them effectively, also you have to walk in and out of your opponent's range to bait a button

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While FB DR is good its really only good on a knock down

regal girder
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Im not sure why, but specifically for aki i just have trouble with the "poking game" with her compared to other chars

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I also play jamie, and the playstyle for him is pretty simple to understand, and i have an easier time of moving around to bait and whiff punish stuff, but for aki it just feels completely different, idk why

weary widget
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Well thats cause almost all of her good pokes arent DR cancelable outside of 5.Mp and 2.Mp

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And her poking game also involves whip which is extremely committal '

regal girder
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Yea, if the replays didnt include it, there were many moments where going for whip just costs me the whole round

weary widget
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Well that wasnt the only thing but yeah you're not wrong

regal girder
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So other than a lack of matchup knowledge and failure to establish myself on screen, are there other things to improve upon?

weary widget
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Awareness of you situation and resources. And knowing what anti air to use at certain ranges

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Also punishes

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There where a lot of punishes you could've done

regal girder
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For blanka or sagat?

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Or both lul

weary widget
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Yes

regal girder
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Alright sounds good, so i gotta work on the poking game, knowing the MUs

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And situation awareness

weary widget
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Yes

cedar wolf
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update trying to play patient is still really hard

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especially when I tilt

slender bone
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tilt is ggs tbh

cedar wolf
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Yeah, it is./

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probably bad to insult myself for missing a combo right

slender bone
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yes

verbal whale
regal girder
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Oh my god hes back Pog

weary widget
cedar wolf
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I tend to tilt frequently

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this probably hampers my ranked progress

slender bone
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definitely does

cedar wolf
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I'm really struggling to play patient

cedar wolf
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can someone help me with like...trying not to do DI and claw dive and throw tech all the time

slender bone
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It's hard because it seems like you're just autopiloting those options

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You have to put like 100% brainpower into not doing those

cedar wolf
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I got so close to master rank and now I'm like...panicking in diamond 5

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telling myself if I just grind for like three more hours I'll get it

regal girder
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Trust me, take like a 5 minute break for yourself

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No point in stressing yourself out bruh

cedar wolf
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alright I'm stepping away

warped nymph
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I just picked her up today and challenged myself to commit to just her for a whole month.
Cfn is baconn
Or add me in disc

regal girder
warped nymph
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Thank you!
What do y’all usually use in nuetral? I’ve been finding it really tough to play vs mai and like Ken/ryu

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Basically the shoto like characters feel really hard to play against

slender bone
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Just jump until they can stop that, then I'll use lp lash, st.mk, cr.mk, cr.mp, or st.mp, sometimes f.hp

warped nymph
modest fox
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pretty sure it's your answer

warped nymph
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Oh okay .
That makes sense.
I ran a longer set vs Mai yesterday and it felt pretty tough.
I don’t face her much but I realize why everyone says she such an oppressive character to fight.
She legit doesn’t let you breathe at all💀

modest fox
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was she the same rank as you?

warped nymph
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No, he was a 1600-1700 rashid main that’s been playing Mai

I’ve only been playing for 3 months 💀

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I did manage to win a set of 3 vs him tho by the end of it .
I’m sure he sandbagged a bit tho

modest fox
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pretty big chance the oppressiveness wasnt character specific, but just because theyre a way better player

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although Mai is pretty oppressive

warped nymph
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Probably a good point

regal girder
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Try to find sets against people your level if you can

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What rank is your highest ranked char currently?

modest fox
regal girder
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Cuz if you're fighting high masters when you peaked at like, idk diamond or something, not the greatest idea tbh, the skill gap is to large to even learn from this

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Yeah me too lul

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Fool cart and houseman

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Fighting these guys actually help me out though, its actually workin

modest fox
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I get destroyed by my 1500-1600 friend on the daily, not sure I'm learning a lot but whatever lul

regal girder
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I also get destroyed, i just see it as practice against whats just eventually going to come at some point

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I can sometimes manage, get a few wins here and there

warped nymph
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I’ve been playing 3 months and my highest is blanka at diamond 3

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Does anyone watch replays ?
It’d be cool to get some advice on what I could start doing.

modest fox
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yeah I wouldnt bother playing 1600mr players at that point

regal girder
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Ok, then yeah, playing with a 1600-1700 is gonna be way too oppressive to learn from, try finding someone in battle hub, or perhaps in sf lobbies

regal girder
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Run a quick set or somethin

verbal whale
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the most efficient way is to go and lab whatever you don’t understand, and in general be curious about what’s happening to you rather than tilted about it

warped nymph
warped nymph
cedar wolf
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is aki's poison bubble pop used for anything?

modest fox
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the fireball followup?

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iirc it's optimal damage in cashout combos into lv3

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also used in some blockstrings I think? I didnt use it much when I played her

regal girder
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Its a way to catch someone trying press after they block the bubble, some ranges its safe

verbal whale
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dr jab always punishes

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only exception might be gief or manon i dont remember which

winter wingBOT
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Move not found
No similar moves found
modest fox
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wrong bot woops

peak crystalBOT
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AKI

nightshade chase (bubble burst) - 214LP > 6P (burst)

Startup

14

Active

6

Recovery

29

On Hit

KD +42

On Block

-4

cedar wolf
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today I will try and make master and try to not rage when I get a win streak broken

regal girder
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-4

modest fox
slender bone
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it's nightshared chaser non-burst

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it's not easy to get the burst one

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just assume it's not real

modest fox
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I dont even know what that means

slender bone
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if they get the block the bubble pop and not the chain part?
It's really wacky

modest fox
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oh yeah thats wacky as hell

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doesnt exist like you said

slender bone
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You can probably do it but it's something that you might as well just ignore

cedar wolf
#

I'm REALLY struggling against sagat right now and he's one of my main sources of instant tilt besides Mai

modest fox
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why do you instant tilt

cedar wolf
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like despite previous tips I am NOT understanding t

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I'm not going into that

modest fox
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fair

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what do you struggle with?

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fireballs, big pokes?

cedar wolf
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the pokes

modest fox
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was gonna try to help you but I have no clue lul

cedar wolf
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I just want to hit master

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I'm like 500 away

modest fox
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youre close, youll get it soon

verbal whale
regal girder
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Oh damn

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I suppose i just get hella lucky, no one punishes it

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Knowledge check ig?

cedar wolf
#

I hate drive rush into DI and wish that was removed

verbal whale
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people dont punish it in 1700

modest fox
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so when would you use it

cedar wolf
#

I'm still also really struggling to understand what to do when I'm cornered

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like if I block too much I'm too passive but if I don't block I get blown up

verbal whale
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which is like -10 by itself

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it's very gimmicky tho i dont like it that much

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and it's suicide against deejay cause he can H sobat punish it

weary widget
warped nymph
weary widget
cedar wolf
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so I'm using coward crouch dive every match because I can't break the habit

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when is it actually a good time to use it? Why doesn't it hit JP more often when he's sitting back?

#

this game is stupid

modest fox
#

you cant go into coward crouch and then dive on reaction to fireballs

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only dive if youre already in coward crouch and expect a fireball

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or just stop doing it because it's not worth the risk imo

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cc dive was an awful habit of mine up until the higher ranks in diamond

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it's good in certain combos either as a way to pop poison or for decent corner carry

cedar wolf
#

i want it to work on reaction

modest fox
#

okay it doesnt though

cedar wolf
#

yeah but I want it

modest fox
cedar wolf
#

why is master ranked harder to win in

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also why not use every move available

modest fox
cedar wolf
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yeah

modest fox
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lets go dude, congrats

cedar wolf
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now I'm testing the waters

verbal whale
modest fox
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master rank starts you out in 1500mr, but most players drop 200-300 MR right off the bat

verbal whale
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when you get masters you’re expected to drop like 2/300 mr

modest fox
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it's a different ranking system where you dont get pushed upwards like in the metal ranks

verbal whale
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usually getting back to 1500 takes as long as getting to master

modest fox
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longer in my case but I did switch characters as well

verbal whale
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then maintaining 1500 is another story

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and getting over 1600 another one

cedar wolf
#

wait you START at a higher MR?

verbal whale
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you start at 1500

cedar wolf
#

that's stupid

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start me at the bottom

verbal whale
#

it’s actually very good

modest fox
#

that's not how it works

verbal whale
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since mr is a 0 sum game

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they gain what you lose

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if you start at 0 there would be an issue with this

cedar wolf
#

what is the range of MR

verbal whale
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usually people are between 1200 and 2200 in europe and NA

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japan gets to 2400 cause their ranked is inflated

modest fox
#

I'd say there's a substantial amount of sub 1200 people as well

verbal whale
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really?

cedar wolf
#

so they expect me to get my ass kicked

verbal whale
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i believe it

modest fox
#

enough to mention 1100-2200 imo

cedar wolf
#

dumb game

modest fox
verbal whale
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well not really cause you mostly go like 2-20

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but you have to get to players to your level

modest fox
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yeah I'm not saying it's the same but dont get too worked up about losing a lot at the start

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youre just getting placed into your actual level

cedar wolf
#

it's just annoying

slender bone
#

Japan is only inflated because they actually have enough people to have a functional climb

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other regions are poor

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MR is ELO
ELO is the rating system they use in chess and the reason why it doesn't start at 0 is because then you get negative rating

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so I think they start it at 1100 or something like that

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chess grandmasters have something like 2800 elo

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when you get to a high level, losing 1 match undoes like 6 months of work

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but you chance of winning is like 95%+ against weaker opponents in many scenarios lmao

verbal whale
#

ye the reason why you don’t start at 0 is cause 1100 looks better than -400

slender bone
#

"what's your MR?"
"-145"
despairge

cedar wolf
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latest thing pissing me off is all my moves getting jumped

modest fox
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my lowest MR was 1195 which made me feel like an iron player all over again

verbal whale
#

sf6 ranked system is very good as long as a lot of people play it

modest fox
slender bone
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The other two already answered but it's not that master is "harder", it's that the points now more closely reflect your winrate

modest fox
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so at the start it will be harder

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because youll be facing players who are 1450-1500mr

slender bone
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I have no idea how far I feel, I've seen below 1200 before tho

cedar wolf
#

I guess that all makes sense

slender bone
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It's not less frustrating, mind you

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Just how the system is built is all

cedar wolf
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but now subconciously I feel like not trying as much since I'm going to be outclassed

slender bone
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slow grind man

modest fox
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you can choose to just tank your MR

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if you dont believe you stand a chance against 1500

cedar wolf
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yeah fuck it

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switching gears, if they block my coward crouch kick sequence do I just block?

slender bone
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ye

cedar wolf
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usually I try the kicks, and if they block those I go for a command grab next

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but then sometimes they hit a crouching normal when I go for the grab, is that just how the guessing game goes?

slender bone
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ye

cedar wolf
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I think focusing on the fact I can't actually lose master rank is slowly helping me be more relaxed about ranked

slender bone
cedar wolf
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But now I'm getting more irritated at my rl local because I'm aware of all the mistakes I still do

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Since my current goal is to win at least 1 game against all these heavy hitters

warped nymph
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Dude, Ken feels so tough to face I stg

modest fox
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what's giving you trouble?

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from what I'm seeing in your history it's more likely youre having trouble because youre playing against a ken who's in plat 2 while youre in silver 5

warped nymph
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He’s a 1900 Ken peak on his alt lol
Yeah I DID just pick Aki up a few days ago.
Just his insane pressure and corner flowcharts he has.
It feels like juri but even worse 😂

regal girder
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When i do stance dive in the corner with poison on (the midair version of this hit, where they tumble backwards) is there a way to follow this up with an attack meterless?

cedar wolf
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at what point do I stop getting my ass kicked in MR because this shit is annoying very quickly

slender bone
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uhhhhhhhhhhh

modest fox
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it stops when you're at the appropriate MR level for your skill at this point

weary widget
cedar wolf
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I will also pledge to not play after drinking anymore because I get mad more easily

vivid orbit
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What do I do against the akuma float thing?

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I keep trying to stand heavy kick anti air and get punished for it

verbal whale
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it’s a guess

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you have to read what he wants to do and try to antiair

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qcfHP is good from close

vivid orbit
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Damn

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I need to start thinking while playing

weary widget
weary widget
slender bone
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before my internet went out yesterday

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that last row wasn't there

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and I thought, "I remember the last matchup chart, he missed a category"
good to know he added it back lmao

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picking up where I dropped off

regal girder
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Lily is good for aki?

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I always struggle against her lmao

slender bone
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"don't let her get stocks, drive rush her down. You fucked up if she gets stocks tho"

regal girder
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Ahh

warped nymph
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How do yall deal with loss streaks man.
I finally made it to d3 and tanked right back down to d2 after like an 8 loss streak.
Demoralizing fam

slender bone
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wonder if I actually landed anything I practiced today
then sleep on it and try again tomorrow

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going up and down is part of the journey

warped nymph
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It was 100% me just making dumb mistakes when I went back and watched some games

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It’s just frustrating

modest fox
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good on you for watching the replay buffpeepo

cedar wolf
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so what am I supposed to do to improve now

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instead of just get my ass kicked in MR

modest fox
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depends on whats going wrong in your gameplay

cedar wolf
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I don't have a clue what I'm doing

modest fox
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same

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I've been stuck at low MR for hundreds of hours

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working hard to fix my shortcomings

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it is what it is

cedar wolf
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then what is the point of me playing?

modest fox
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what's been the point of you playing up until now?

cedar wolf
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to reach master rank

modest fox
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personally I play to have fun. sadly I think I suck and this thought prevents me from having fun, so I need to get better. So I play to improve

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if your goal was just to reach master rank you might as well stop playing

cedar wolf
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I was considering it

modest fox
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or you can get a second character to master

cedar wolf
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oh yeah

slender bone
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I think that's a bad idea tbh

cedar wolf
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I will most likely forget this conversation and keep grinding by tomorrow

modest fox
slender bone
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goal is done, drop game and go do something else

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Especially when it was with extreme anguish the whole journey

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why do a sequel to that?

modest fox
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actually true

weary widget
cedar wolf
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I'm not dropping the game

warped nymph
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I’m gonna try and implement that

weary widget
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Its gonna be tough

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And of course I still go "Guiles a bum ass character" but thats not productive and I know Im just saying that out of salt in the moment and that Ill come back at it with a more critical lense later

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Its comepletely natural to feel tilt and salt its just a matter if you let that control your actions and thought process that matters

cedar wolf
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and yes I will take more characters to master

cedar wolf
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why is everyone's dr overhead faster than mine

modest fox
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no idea

peak crystalBOT
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AKI

pu lao - 3MP

Startup

24

Active

3

Recovery

18

On Hit

3

On Block

-2

weary widget
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Because AKIs is legit slower

cedar wolf
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I'm also working on not hurling expletives at my ranked opponents

slender bone
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ye I think the standard is 20-21f

weary widget
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That is the standard between 20-22

cedar wolf
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or teabagging them

weary widget
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Kim’s is faster and allows for a natural link into lights which I think is fucking stupid personally

slender bone
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just like Ibuki in SFV but Ibuki's was 28f

weary widget
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I honestly don’t know what capcom was cooking with this balance patch

regal girder
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Personally i like the delay to it, it catches a lot of buttons for people that delay press on wakeup

modest fox
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you teabag?

cedar wolf
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why are you surprised at this point

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like come on

weary widget
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Honestly that shocked me too but then again I dont know you at all

copper yacht
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Commish even teabags me

cedar wolf
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yeah but that's a friendly bag

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  • you deserve it
copper yacht
slender bone
vivid orbit
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How do I punish Hazanshu?

slender bone
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I think only one of them is actually punishable

vivid orbit
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I checked and light is punishable on block

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But is there anything I can hit them out of the air with?

regal girder
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Gotta be quick wit it tho i think

slender bone
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I think aiming for Chun while she's midflight is...dicey

vivid orbit
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If it's possible it's good enough

weary widget
vivid orbit
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Should I try to hit her out of the air with jabs or is it just better to parry?

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And if I do jab then can I get a combo?

weary widget
vivid orbit
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Ok I'll try them out, thanks

cedar wolf
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So remind me what buttons are safe to press in neutral

slender bone
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anything that can cancel into DI

cedar wolf
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Uhhh

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I only know st hk

slender bone
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?

cedar wolf
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As di cancel

slender bone
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buttons that are special cancellable are also DI cancellable

cedar wolf
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Oh

cedar wolf
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I feel like I'm not fully grasping this character

hollow tundra
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Hi, I am stuck at Plat 1 with Aki right now and am not entirely sure what to focus on / what to lab (its most likely anti-airing) could someone help me get better?

modest fox
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post a replay recording and someone'll have a look

hollow tundra
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ok thanks ^^

regal girder
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First things first, learn how to anti air, you hold back by default, gotta break out of that habit and not let them get in for free

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You blocked a good amount of h tatsus, which is hella minus, so learning the combo there will help you in the long term

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Basic dp punish is st hk xx h flippy daggers into crlp crlp st lk xx h whip

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Blocked some sweeps close to the end, gotta make it a habit to punish with cr hk

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I think you're tryna do a little too much of aki shit (which isnt bad) but the issue is your basic gameplay isnt all there yet to properly use aki shit

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Practice AA, punishing, and not dropping combos

hollow tundra
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Thanks for all of the information and the the time you took i will hit the dojo <3

cedar wolf
slender bone
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sir

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where are your combos

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why are you doing crLp crmp

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bro

cedar wolf
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panicked

slender bone
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what

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the fuck

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are these sweeps

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why do you keep pressing that

cedar wolf
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I thought you could interrupt his charged punch with sweep

slender bone
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if you react to the full charged but you are just sending it, there is no reaction

cedar wolf
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ok

slender bone
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panic crmp doesn't logically track

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what's the purpose even as panic

cedar wolf
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far reach

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and not a heavy

slender bone
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are you sure

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-2 button into 7f is

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insane, to put it

cedar wolf
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oh it's 7f

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I never bothered to learn the numbers

slender bone
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I think with that type of thought process, you can't complain about getting pressed on

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hell even if you don't know the exact numbers

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you cannot do light into medium oB in sf6 safely

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more over crLp crmp does not combo on counterhit

cedar wolf
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well I didn't MEAN to press cr. lp into cr. mp like I said

slender bone
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so you are doing a string that will never pay off for doing

cedar wolf
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yeah I know it doesn't combo

modest fox
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if you watch this replay you wouldn't be able to point out what lost you the game?

weary widget
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Also drive management was all over the place

weary widget
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Yeah that sums it up

cedar wolf
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as in I just need to work on pretty much everything in my gameplay

modest fox
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sounds harsh but it's true

cedar wolf
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I was tilted anyway so I wasn't at 100 percent

modest fox
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what percent were you at

cedar wolf
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I dunno I'm grinding ranked rn so

modest fox
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why are you grinding ranked? did you practice any of the stuff Korn said

cedar wolf
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i gotta correct something

cedar wolf
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okay it's been corrected, ranked session over

sleek rune
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oops :3

young moth
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hey guys could someone break down the medium slide oki after heavy whip

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i know you can throw

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for strike, best bet is crmk?

regal girder
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Cant really shimmy after that too iirc

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But yeah basically a striek throw mix

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Strike can do st mk or cr mk both are hit confirmable

young moth
regal girder
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Both options are good, double dash you're plus 6, medium snake step you're plus 5

young moth
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ye but can u shimmy on double dash

regal girder
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Hmmm

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I only did a little bit of testing for that

young moth
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i rly like shimmy cuz i get hit by a lot of exdps and it feels risky blocking in throw range

regal girder
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But if they delay tech then yes you can shimmy, but if they immediately tech i dont think it works

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I know for sure that drive rush after h whip can shimmy out of there

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I might be wrong on the double dash one, cuz i dont do it much lol, so youll have to test that one

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But from what i remember only if they delay tech

young moth
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okok got it

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so ill just do slide oki if they start teching or dping ill switch to drive rush

regal girder
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Make sure to not overdo the drive rush

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Its strong but its a limited resource

sleek rune
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I’ve always done double dash ngl and you can def catch people delay teaching

regal girder
sleek rune
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Prolly not but not a lot of people commit to immediate tech anyways

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At least in my experience

young moth
slender bone