Aki Believers Group

[lusty drum]

it's not something you wanna use often cause it's very slow

there's a sneaky corner reset into command grab you can do too but that's really situational

[verbal whale]

i just wanna add it’s not that situational now cause you can get it from any MWhip crumple

[weary widget]

It's bad if you abuse it and doing a meaty command grab is very obvious since I don't think you can make kicks plus OB outside of burnout. So I usually sprinkle it in once I establish kicks as an option I will default to, you could also slightly delay kicks too to catch them trying to press

[lusty drum]

Oh sick I'm gonna try and bust that out in ranked tonight at least once then

I don't do it often but landing the grab makes me cackle

[verbal whale]

ye the route is always the same, after MWhip crumple you go DR sthk xx L flippy daggers, stlk

and then either DI or command grab

[lusty drum]

THAT'S what I was doing wrong, supposed to be light

was like "why it no work"

[versed pecan]

Is Aki simple to play?

[weary widget]

Yes and no

[versed pecan]

Like on a scale of Akuma to Jamie

[weary widget]

We compare her to bison

In terms of gameplay and gameplan

[versed pecan]

Ah I play bison

[verbal whale]

particular scale

but btw she’s not the easiest, but like sf6 doesn’t have any mechanical hard character, everyone is very accessible

[versed pecan]

That not the scale we use for no brain required to brain required

[weary widget]

Oh then jamie

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[verbal whale]

i’m not sure akuma is the easiest and jamie is the hardest but it’s not important here

but ye aki can be tricky cause her playstyle is pretty unique

and she has plenty of routes

[weary widget]

Specifically when it comes to set ups and "optimal" routes

Her oki is easy to get into but can get really funky really quick

[verbal whale]

ye also her throwloop is manually timed, her oki is very good due to safejumps, you have to be mindful of poison procs etc

her main tool to approach is very slow so you can’t throw it out at any moment

but the reward she gives you is kind of insane rn

she’s super duper good

she has some terrible MU but nothing too impossible

but she also does very well into shotos

[versed pecan]

When I pick up characters I have to either play with someone and have them explain or it just takes a very long time

[verbal whale]

and the lack of crmk DR can confuse some people

[verbal whale]

you are lucky one of the best akis in the world made a 2h guide about her

[weary widget]

For mid-screen do 5.Mp for command grab for some reason 5.Hk doesn't work

[weary widget]

Lets be honest the depth he went into is needed more often for all the characters in this game, outside of Ken

[verbal whale]

ye it was insane how good the guide was

my only complaint was how he structured the combo section

[weary widget]

Wdym?

[verbal whale]

i don’t like giving out full aki combos, i prefer explaining the different building blocks that make them and then build them up

instead of just listing the different routes

[weary widget]

Well lets be honest not everyone will think of the things other AKIs have so him having it there is better than just going "Here's a sting you can do differently have fun"

[verbal whale]

oh ye for sure

[weary widget]

Also we should probably pin the aki guide

[verbal whale]

don’t get me wrong i wasn’t complaining

it was just what I would have done differently if i had to make it and if i had the insane knowledge he has

[verbal whale]

ye totally @slender bone

[weary widget]

Yeah I know constructive criticism is quite different than complaining

[verbal whale]

https://youtu.be/2kBkizvG7eM?si=JJM8ohjRs0b_6CQb

broski you are so fucking good man I love you

[verbal whale]

ty

[weary widget]

Thanks Denzy

[weary widget]

@versed pecan @lusty drum Here's a good example of resets and how complex she can get

[lusty drum]

yeah I need to work that st.lk reset into my gameplan

[versed pecan]

Damn that’s crazy

[weary widget]

Keep in mind this is a everything going your way scenario some people will catch your ass lacking if you're just autopiloting this

[bright herald]

hey guys im a beginner on the game and im trying to switch from my previous main to aki since she is cooler

im having some trouble connecting 5LK after 2LP > 2LP in some combos

is there a problem if i just ignore it ang go on or is 5lk after 2lp a core part of her stuff?

[verbal whale]

it’s mostly a matter of being optimal, she can survive without it (like she did in S1) but it’s very important to eventually start to do it, since you lose some really really good routes.

[bright herald]

i'll try to get used to it eventually

its just weird how the timing is

[kind bronze]

AGHHHH

[weary widget]

Moving to day 2 fellas pure aki

[lusty drum]

Bought at the retro game con

[kind bronze]

OOOO

The queen herself

[lusty drum]

Color 2 on the other side

[kind bronze]

Even cooler

[weary widget]

Bro pools was so much fun

[kind bronze]

Whats pools?

[fickle sundial]

EVO Pools

[kind bronze]

OHHH

EVOOOOO

AKIIII

OOOOO

[kind bronze]

By this time next year Repun just you watch

I’ll be one of those pot monsters at evo

[fickle sundial]

I'd like to see that 👀

[kind bronze]

It’ll be thanks to your coaching 👍🏽

And my no lifting this game

Lifeing*

[weary widget]

Yeah got out loser side I play again tomorrow

[kind bronze]

You got this broski

[fickle sundial]

Good luck

[kind bronze]

Top 8 is calling your name

[verbal whale]

@kind bronze im free if you want

[kind bronze]

Ahh sorry mate

I was still sleeping

[kind bronze]

Think you’ll still be free in maybe an hour?

[verbal whale]

i don't think so, sorry

[kind bronze]

Ah thats alright

Thanks anyway!! Really sorry man

[fickle sundial]

C'est la vie

There's another time

[kind bronze]

Always

Ive got nothing but time lol

[kind bronze]

MY GLORIOUS QUEEN

Soon enough I shall get ryu to plat one and I will begin to play you all the time

[versed pecan]

Would anyone here be willing to come into training with me and teach me aki?

[weary widget]

I would if I was home

Currently at evo tho so once I get back I’ll teach you some tech

[versed pecan]

Alright bet

[hoary lynx]

Hi, I'm a plat Aki and I'm trying to improve my combos. Right now literally everyone in plat is doing to me 3100 combo damage on various hits and I hit for 1800-2100, so I'm getting really behind. This is my current list of combos, basically I learn one for every situation and always try to do those (it's how my brain works)

I was learning a new DI crumple one, specifically the one that appears as Moderate, the j.hk one (before I was doing just my heavy punish, which does 2000, and this does 2600). But a couple of people in another thread told me the j.hk combo was maybe too difficult and swap it for something more consistent.

So, my question is, can you give me some options of combos that are a healthy mix of a next step in the ones I already know, and that have better damage? Specifically I think I lack combos that would start with a DR o with a medium. But any advice on others that you feel are important and that there are easy alternatives are also very welcome.

Note that I have already watched Broski's tutorial and didn't help much because there are just too many and a lot I thought they were too hard for me right now. I also have read all of the ones in Simple Breakdown sheet from the coaching channel, and I am missing the context of which ones are better for my current execution, a lot of them feel as hard as the DI crumple one, and I would appreciate the recommendation of other AKIs in diamond for example.

[fickle sundial]

quick question did you make your own GDoc like this

Asking out of curiosity

[hoary lynx]

yes

habit of my job and other hobbies i guess

feedback on the gdoc are also welcome (?)

[fickle sundial]

Interesting I go for mindmaps personally and make them bit of a flowchart

[verbal whale]

so as you probably know aki has her most damage from poison procs, so it’s important to learn combos both for poisoned and unpoisoned targets.After stHK you want to go into down+PP kicks, which will frame trap on block and hit them on hit, so the combo looks like
stHK, d+pp~k, crlp, crlp xx qcfHP
IF they are poisoned after qcfHP you wanna do DR crMP xx qcfHP.
Now aki damage mid screen isn’t usually that high, her main strenght is her oki and corner carry.
Her 2 main whiff punish buttons in my opinion are stMP and crHK rn, with stHK being the best but a bit tricky on the range. After a PC stmp, you wanna go
stmp (PC), stMP, DRC, stMK, stHK, d+pp~k, crlp, crlp xx qcfHP (with the same ender as before if they are poisoned).
after crHK punish counter the enemy will be launched, and you wanna follow with DR crLP xx qcfMP.
her BIG damage comes from the corner routes.
In the corner you can get
[whatever into qcfHP] DR stHK xx qcbHP, DR stHK xx d+pp~p. This gives you like a +87 KD where you can setup a puddle (qcbMP) and throw a meaty fireball.
The other big important combo is after DR crMK rn, which is
DR crMK, stHK xx d+pp~k, crlp, crlp xx qcfHP

those are not super optimal, they were in S1, but the optimal ones require a bit of execution which let me know if you are confident on having

and require you to confirm if the opponent is crouching sometimes

[verbal whale]

also whenever you have confirmed your hit, it’s so much better to end with qcfHP instead of qcbHP

also fHP to counter crmk is VERY risky

[hoary lynx]

with the first combo, you mean it's a good option for DI crumple, or for neutral st. hk d+pp x k and try to hit-confirm?

[verbal whale]

stHK always goes into stance kicks

and even on block you are not punishable and frame traps if they press

it loses to DI tho, but DI loses to your command grab

that’s where the mix comes from, also it makes them parry the hits to not take drive damage very risky

[hoary lynx]

yeah, my question is more the context of the combo. I'm guessing neutral

[verbal whale]

ye whenever you hit a stHK

stHK is a good button to press when you get the range down

safe, good range, good drive damage

[hoary lynx]

I'm very very not confident on having good execution lol, but I'll try to implement these. Just to confirm:

(neutral) stHK, d+pp~k, crlp, crlp xx qcfHP
(neutral poisoned) stHK, d+pp~k, crlp, crlp xx qcfHP, DR crMP xx qcfHP
(raw dr approach) DR crMK, stHK xx d+pp~k, crlp, crlp xx qcfHP

For the whiff punish, I'm going to say I don't trust myself with hitting a st. mp pc yet. I struggle with the st. hp one and that has a lot more range than st. mp, so I'm going to wait a bit on that specific combo. I also don't really trust myself with conditional combos corner / not corner yet, I struggle with basic combos, I think I'm going to get comfortable with these first.

[verbal whale]

tbh hitting stMP is easier than stHP because it’s twice as fast

and moves aki forward

[hoary lynx]

oh, I see

maybe I can try for a bit then

but each combo can take around 15-20 hours to actually implement so with these I have enough for at least 3 weeks lol

thanks again

[verbal whale]

good luck with your journey

just a side note

DO NOT end in qcfHP on block

if they block the first hit, stop after d+pp~k

[hoary lynx]

noted

[quartz cedar]

Can someone help me get out of iron? I really like aki’s design and her combos feel good to hit but every time I play her the game turns into getting cyber bullied simulator 2024. All of normals are really weird and honestly scary to use, sHK has a lot of startup, MP doesn’t have a lot of range cMK is a decent low, but doesn’t lead to anything, etc, so I just end up holding down back and praying they do something unsafe, and even if they do, all I get is cLP cLP heavy whip before resetting back to neutral where I get bullied into the corner all over again. Then if I try to set up a fireball, they will just walk with me and parry everything until I’m in the corner again, every time I’ve tried to DR behind the fireball they do ex fireball and I get hit. If anyone would be down to play some sets at some point or watch some replays w met to help me get over my fear of throwing out moves it would be much appreciated bc I’m about to end up on scrub quotes Twitter or something if things keep going the way they are.

[slender bone]

Where are you normally fighting people?

We can play in like ~8m

@quartz cedar

[quartz cedar]

I’m down, I’ve only got like an hour though

[slender bone]

totally fine

[quartz cedar]

Are you down to vc? I feel like it would be more helpful, no pressure tho

[slender bone]

I'll turn my game on, I'll be in 1 on 1 coaching

[quartz cedar]

Cool

[slender bone]

What CFN you got, I'll invite you

[quartz cedar]

@slender bone I'm in silver now, why is this still working lamo

also thx

[slender bone]

simple plan

[kind bronze]

What was the plan??

[slender bone]

> bnb

after landing bnb f.dash f.dash and either cr.lk > cr.lp xx hp lash or throw
do almost nothing else
punish things you know how to punish
otherwise mash after every blocked anything

[hoary lynx]

Any context on when it's good to throw st. hk in neutral? I'm trying the combos from the other day and don't find it easy to do in neutral because of the startup + range

[verbal whale]

startup is fast at 9f, the hard thing to tell you is when a buttons is good to throw out. You don’t wanna throw it out a lot, but if you are feeling your opponent is coming inside your range it’s good to press something to stop him. In aki’s case you have stHK, crMK, stMK, stMP, each one has its own benefits, stHK has good range and it’s fast while dealing good drive damage on block, you can go into stance and be safe, threatening the strike/command throw mix

[slender bone]

Often I don't press st.hk in neutral

The range isn't spectacular and the confirm window is either hard or I don't practice it

[verbal whale]

confirm is 18f so not hard

[hoary lynx]

I feel like always I try in range, I get a counter-hit, maybe I'm just throwing it too close or something

[verbal whale]

neutral stHK is very good once you get the grasp of the range because it forces your opponent into a budget mixup:
-if you go into stance you have strike command throw, very good when they are low on drive since they lose a lot of drive in most scenarios
-if you end in fireball you have a way riskier option with the fireball frame trap followup
-if you end in LWhip you have drive damage and you are pretty much always safe
-you can bait with L Slide

[hoary lynx]

you want to throw it at max range right? I think that was my problem

I'm used to st. mk range and was throwing it there and eating mp counter hits

[verbal whale]

ye you wanna be far, but probably you wanna go take a look at your replays and see if you had any pattern in your button pressing timing, because stHK is a 9f move, and mediums are usually 6-8f, so if you are getting CH it means that your opponent knew you liked to press there

[slender bone]

I should probably watch Broski's guide lmao

[weary widget]

He has a written one should you wish

[slender bone]

2h isn't that much time when you're grinding in games to it but that's good to know

[copper yacht]

2h is nothing when I'm grinding in games because I get fueled by the screams of my enemies

A 2h video is hard though

I could be watching Star Trek IV or something!

[weary widget]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLwAu_oK-oWEMCNh4IdRLNDiwPPwXPrkXSf-quPUwAI/mobilebasic

@slender bone you mind pinning this?

[quartz cedar]

If they get hit by the cLK cLP heavy whip on wake up do I get another double dash strike throw mix? They seem to be sent two far away w the toxic blossoms version of the heavy whip, maybe I was not timing the cLK right though

[verbal whale]

yes toxic blossom gives a different knockdown, if you feel confident you can recognize the situation and follow the poison proc with DR crMP xx qcfHP and repeat the double dash pressure

[quartz cedar]

What should i do after the throw, I’m too far away for pressure so I usually go for a fireball but idk if that is the right thing to do

[verbal whale]

normal throw or command throw from stance?

[zenith osprey]

hey, i would love some AKI coaching as well if its possible.

[fickle sundial]

afaik we dont really offer outside of casual "coaching" that is vod reviewing a match if you got smth and we mostly here just ask and answer questions.

You can start with Broski's guide if you have the time for it to understand her more

[verbal whale]

i can sit in VC whenever i have time if you guys need anything

[zenith osprey]

yeah im familiar with her buttons and ive seen broskis guide. some vod reviewing wouldnt hurt i guess, or even better some sets since the OP is in europe.

[verbal whale]

i’m pretty busy lately but maybe tomorrow in the afternoon i can gets some sets in

[zenith osprey]

that sounds amazing

will send u a pm when i get off from work

[quartz cedar]

Both

[verbal whale]

so command throw doesn’t give anything real, throw you can follow with:
-DR stMP in the corner (gives a very meaty stmp)
-i really like DR stMK mid screen, they can’t mash it

[quartz cedar]

Cool thx

[verbal whale]

dr stMP in the corner is so plus that you can link stHK on hit

[bright herald]

hey guys this is gonna sound weird since its something so simple but i can finally reliably connect 5lk after 2lp on combos!

sf is one of my first fighting games so i coudnt use different light attacks reliably because of the timing

never thought i would be so happy about being able to do 100 more damage off of one combo

[slender bone]

for now just do hp lash ! > lp lash

after throw, just do reset it neutral for now

keep it simple

Barca gives you the advanced stuff but if you want to keep the mental stack low, just do those 2

[verbal whale]

oh sorry i missed this part

ye denz is the best to ask for the keep it simple stuff, he’s extremely good at simplifying things down

[slender bone]

no worries, he was just iron 2 days ago so I gave him a super basic gameplan

j.hp > cr.lp > cr.lp xx hp lash > f.dash > f.dash > cr.lk > cr.lp xx hp lash if it hits

or throw instead

got him to silver

[verbal whale]

terrorizing lower rated players with the power of oki

[slender bone]

hell yeah

[fickle sundial]

Wow and Ken can do this with just 2 Bars for ex Dragonflash

#buffAki

[fickle sundial]

Oki is such a cheatcode

[verbal whale]

[fickle sundial]

Lemme cook with my agenda

[cosmic scarab]

I’m new here and I’m a believer I just need help getting better. I’m stuck at Plat 3 been going to locals about a month getting washed but getting noticeably better. I’m looking for coaching. Just reading the tips for now. AKI is cool.

[verbal whale]

hey welcome aboard, feel free to ask whatever question you have and share some replays if you want more direct help

tbh we should also change name since the believing GREATLY paid off in s2

[zenith osprey]

"Cult" seems more appropriate

[slender bone]

heh

so p3 and locals are gonna have different levels of competition

[cosmic scarab]

Yea I noticed lol @slender bone

Thank you will be much appreciated @verbal whale

Want to share my haute42 T16 pad art here too. I know it’ll be appreciated here. I designed it myself.

[verbal whale]

oh that’s very good

[cosmic scarab]

Thanks @verbal whale my first one working on a new one too

So how do I share replays ?

[verbal whale]

ye i can’t look at them now cause im going to bed

but tomorrow i’ll take a look

[slender bone]

my art is still SFV Mika

[verbal whale]

i need an hitbox art

[slender bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298975400611020810/494208546955722753/20180925_140743.jpg?ex=66a92c13&is=66a7da93&hm=fa09e1aba417ae60dcf09ac28b229ec65fc8097efd532725c83a1e4ba597414d&

[lusty drum]

Lack of good art/ideas for art is what's keeping me from building my own leverless

something like this is what I wanna try and do. maybe for AKI.

(not mine, lifted from r/fightsticks)

[cosmic scarab]

Nice @slender bone

I see the vision @lusty drum would be a good look it’s hard to find good AKI photos like that though.

[lusty drum]

I think I can find something in the concept arts

either that or commission something nice

I like this one cause of the alpha 3 stuff

[weary widget]

For free can’t he?

[weary widget]

Can I glaze Myself?

[bright herald]

nah that was diabolical i can hear his head going aw dang it everytime

[verbal whale]

why light slide instead of puddle framekill?

[cosmic scarab]

Games? Training?

[kind bronze]

LET THE GLAZE BEGIN 🧎‍♂️‍➡️

[weary widget]

Broski showed it off in either this aki video or one of his streams but it’s a an option select for wake up dps

[verbal whale]

oh ye you DR in after no?

and the party catches the reversal

[weary widget]

Yeah and if they don’t you still just dr

It doesn’t work on Ed tho

[verbal whale]

ye i got what it was

damn i completely removed it

[cosmic scarab]

Games @verbal whale

[verbal whale]

i can play a few

italy-central might be laggy tho

let's try

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

[verbal whale]

cfn?

[cosmic scarab]

Megalodon_Don

[verbal whale]

uh

[cosmic scarab]

One moment

[verbal whale]

inv me it's the same as discord

[cosmic scarab]

No under score in mine

[verbal whale]

ok lemme invite

oh wAIT

i enter

lol

AAAA

ok let's do this

i invite you

ok maybe it's a bit too much

[cosmic scarab]

Let’s try one more

[verbal whale]

ok

sorry but it's extremely bad

[cosmic scarab]

Yea it’s too bad maybe you can watch my replay and see where I can improve

[verbal whale]

ye lemme take a look at some

[cosmic scarab]

Idk know how to do let me start a ranked match and go from there

[verbal whale]

i'm watching old replays

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

[verbal whale]

how long have you been playing aki for?

[cosmic scarab]

I played when she first came out then I stopped playing the game for months now I’m back playing everyday for about a couple of months.

Can you look at my last match I just played

[verbal whale]

I watched this replay, there is a lot to work on:
_First of all you gotta drastically reduce the number of jumps and backjumps, almost after every interaction you had with your opponent you jumped somewhere on screen
-take a look at what aki basic combos (lmk if you need 'em) and practice them in order to get them down consistently, and after that study what oki you have on the knockdowns you get. I noticed a lot of the times you were just pressing buttons hoping for the best
-Be more aware of the buttons you press, there was a round where you did a fHP in jab range
-qcfMP isn't a great antiair, for now stick to stHK and crHK

[verbal whale]

sure

ok notes are the same but you antiaired way better

get comfortable being a bit more reactive

[weary widget]

If you’re still looking we can play

[cosmic scarab]

Yes

Thank you @verbal whale I will work that

@weary widget yes we can

I need help with corner pressure once I corner them how can I start a combo after kd and then start my loops. @verbal whale

[weary widget]

Lemme know whenever you’re available

[fickle sundial]

https://x.com/Tyrant_UK/status/1818288598157856922?t=LZP6mIarOOLmNlkIosBOWg&s=19

Ty (@Tyrant_UK) on X

AKI players when they remove fireball > drive rush and they actually have to play neutral

Twitter · Jul 30, 2024, 2:12 PM

Levels of cope right here

[lusty drum]

well the most recent character he used is bison

soooo od psycho crusher us

[verbal whale]

ok but the first meme is actually kinda true

[slender bone]

the worst she can do is block

wrong, the worst she can do is get hit trying to AA

the best she can do is block or parry

[fickle sundial]

Aki is an honest character

[slender bone]

now now

let's not tell lies

[fickle sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-cat-blinking-cat-funny-cat-funny-cat-blinking-gif-27202865

Honest footsies character real real

[weary widget]

Who let him out of his cage

[weary widget]

I might change my pfp to that

[verbal whale]

i’m desperate for a good aki pfp

[fickle sundial]

I can send my pfp from the artist

[verbal whale]

nah i like silly pfps

like the one i have now

i might draw one myself

[kind bronze]

🧍I would like one

I’ve simply been reading this chat and studying up on aki and planning a way to learn her when I make the eventual switch off ryu

[fickle sundial]

https://twitter.com/OrekiGenya/status/1726684346495783052

👻 (@OrekiGenya) on X

Aki (redraw
#SF6 #streetfighter6

Twitter · Nov 20, 2023, 7:30 PM

[kind bronze]

I NEEED the pfp

Oooo

[weary widget]

It’s all your big boss

[fickle sundial]

I have a whole folder just for Aki fanart

[kind bronze]

🙏🏽

Aki is queen

[fickle sundial]

Not as many as I'd like, but Aki just doesn't get as much attention as Chun does i.e

[verbal whale]

ok it’s aki pfp time

[weary widget]

I wonder why?

[fickle sundial]

Good thing I will change mine tmr

[weary widget]

Rhetorical question btw

[verbal whale]

ok tbh aki has insane amounts of art

it’s just extremely nsfw for some reason

[fickle sundial]

Yeah

for no reaosn

[verbal whale]

[weary widget]

Gooner logic evades me

[fickle sundial]

I use danbooru for most of my art search

[verbal whale]

i’m a big fan of very simple art

[kind bronze]

Hey Repun isn’t a goner

[verbal whale]

like the pfp i have now

[kind bronze]

Gooner*

Hes the Goon

PRAISE BE

[fickle sundial]

Never cook again

[kind bronze]

😔

[verbal whale]

btw this group has grew a lot lately

happy to see more people interested in the char

[weary widget]

The kitchens on fire please stay out

[fickle sundial]

One of my favs

[kind bronze]

The temple grows

[weary widget]

Understandable

[kind bronze]

She’s so cool

[weary widget]

Well we know why

[verbal whale]

[fickle sundial]

I am an Aki fan since I learned about Broski which was in Jan!!!!

[kind bronze]

It’s Cause she’s the hottest thing since the sun itself

[verbal whale]

biggest addition i had lately are the ex whip extension hikaru does

like that is so goddamn smart

[weary widget]

That’s one reason but not the biggest

[fickle sundial]

Ok venom get back to your lab and practice what I taught you

[kind bronze]

Will do!

I have been labbing out footsies practice and learning the range of my attacks

[kind bronze]

What’s the biggest reason?

[fickle sundial]

👍

[kind bronze]

👍🏽👍🏽

[fickle sundial]

Mine is her combo conversions and style of gameplay

[weary widget]

Buffs and c3 prior to them people were just saying how trash she is

[verbal whale]

small quality of life buffs

[kind bronze]

Ohhhhhhh all very cool reasons!!

[fickle sundial]

Yeah remember Daigo?

[weary widget]

Literally had the worst jab

[weary widget]

Absolutely

[kind bronze]

Oh god

Now she’s the best at everything🙏🏽

[fickle sundial]

sure...

[verbal whale]

people were sleeping hard on aki after ed patch

[weary widget]

Well no she still has the worst fireball

[verbal whale]

then patch came

and we eat

so well

[weary widget]

And now people are complaining

[fickle sundial]

You just reminded me barca of Broski vs Mena

from Redbull kumite

[verbal whale]

[weary widget]

Which I find enjoyable and annoying

[verbal whale]

broski my GOAT

[fickle sundial]

One of the best sets this whole year

[kind bronze]

The frame count on her fireball is pretty bad

[verbal whale]

the crowd shouting my magnum opus

[weary widget]

Cause most of the time people complain about stuff that’s so dumb

[kind bronze]

Tis the curse of video games

[fickle sundial]

Her fireball is solid for drive rushing, but dont expect to win any fireball wars

Esp against akuma or dj

[weary widget]

Like “Oh her burn out pressure is too strong” not realizing they can just super out of it

[verbal whale]

aki’s fireball contesting tool isn’t her fireball

is whip

if you can’t dive

[fickle sundial]

Mfw a character has a strength and I get punished for throwing my drive gauge like I am Noah

[verbal whale]

deejay is very easy to dive at least

[fickle sundial]

Fair

But have fun with his sway low

or cr.MP

[verbal whale]

19f confirm window 6f medium

[weary widget]

Should played the match up pre patch and holy shit it was bad

[verbal whale]

i did

[weary widget]

We both did

[verbal whale]

it was extremely bad

[fickle sundial]

Def one of the best cr.mps in the game

[weary widget]

Just imagine all the no AKIs not knowing how bad it was

[verbal whale]

now i bear deejay tbh

[verbal whale]

the pain new akis didn’t experience are the antiairs

they are so good now

[fickle sundial]

Hey guys at least Guile matchup is easier with dive buff right???

[weary widget]

I wish

[verbal whale]

[weary widget]

That and the jab dropping

[verbal whale]

my most underrated buff is for sure the L Slide, it’s so good now that i’m understanding it

[weary widget]

And pre buff defense holy shit you had to do astronomy, hypothetical physics, quantum physics, and trigonometry just to survive the corner

[verbal whale]

you really needed to like the character to play her

but she’s both cool as fuck and turbo good

[fickle sundial]

Aki kinda felt feast or famine pre S2

[weary widget]

Exactly she was not a character you played if you wanted to have a good win rate you played her cause you loved how she played

[cosmic scarab]

Games? FT5

[verbal whale]

she still is tbh

[fickle sundial]

Bit more consistent at least

[verbal whale]

but in a much more reliable way

[weary widget]

I would if I wasn’t cooking I’ll let you know when I’m done

[verbal whale]

a lot more consistent

[cosmic scarab]

Ok @weary widget

[verbal whale]

i play a very slow aki but i can slow down the game really well now

[weary widget]

I’m the exact opposite

I play agro as hell

[verbal whale]

i play turbo patient aki but i don’t let them breath on the first opening

i get fucked on the patient part sometimes but that’s cause i’m ass

[fickle sundial]

I am more like Barca, but once I get my oki I go in flow state

The nagain

I play chun a lot

I play reactive for a reason

[verbal whale]

i mean aki’s oki is so good

[weary widget]

I just love harassing them both up close and from afar

[verbal whale]

i’m starting to be more aggressive lately tho

[fickle sundial]

Ye no deny

[weary widget]

Oh yeah this was her jab pre buff

[verbal whale]

now it’s like thrice the hitbox

[slender bone]

oh yeah

Barca

I stopped being 100% lazy

[kind bronze]

WOAHHHH

MASTER

AWESOME

[kind bronze]

Ew

[verbal whale]

biiiig

[slender bone]

I think my favourite part of the clip was the instant rematch

no delay, just let's go again

[cosmic scarab]

Congratulations

[slender bone]

thanks

[weary widget]

I’m proud of you son

[slender bone]

[verbal whale]

also denz have you labbed other stuff or are you still sticking with the most basic stuff?

[weary widget]

Also peep

[slender bone]

basic

I was watching Hikaru last night

"man, I really didn't do anything special on Aki at all, eh?"

[verbal whale]

hikaru has some insane routes

[slender bone]

basic bitch stuff, not even 50% used

[verbal whale]

it’s cool to watch him lab

[slender bone]

I used literally 0 mk slide as oki

corner meaty was pretty much only safe jump

[verbal whale]

i like mk slide more than double dash cause it’s +5

double dash you whiff the throw if you don’t delay

[slender bone]

I found double dash easier to time which is why I did it

[verbal whale]

biggest thing i’m stealing from hikaru is PC stMP into ex whip

it’s basically a DR extensions for 2 bars

[slender bone]

things I didn't do was like heel strike CH/PC into an actual strong button

CH into st.mp or PC into stMK > st.mp

[verbal whale]

oh ye now PC goes into stmk

[slender bone]

just went basic bitch cr.lp

[verbal whale]

did you go into the stLK routes?

[slender bone]

yeah but I would forget it when I hit it on oki

mostly because I didn't confirm crouch

so like I'd do cr.lk > cr.lp > st.lk xx hp lash > f.dash > f.dash > cr.lk > cr.lp xx hp lash! instead of st.lk xx mp lash!

[verbal whale]

one thing i’m having issues with, and maybe @weary widget can help me, is the walk stMP xx hwhip after mwhip crumple

[slender bone]

you shouldn't get overhead there, right? since that's df.mp

[verbal whale]

i think you have to just do a stlk before it

[verbal whale]

nono it’s not an input issue, my hwhip just whiffs

[slender bone]

oh so you gotta walk more but it's kind of annoying

[verbal whale]

he cause they fall

[slender bone]

that timing sounds hard af

[verbal whale]

i labbed it for like a very short time tonight, but i’ll try it more tomorrow

cause idk if you are aware but you have different routes based on how many lights are before stlk

[slender bone]

ye since the pushback changes

but I like to keep it simple

[verbal whale]

i think this one requires only one stlk, cause hikaru does it a lot after ex whip, stlk mwhip

[slender bone]

he was streaming 9 hours earlier, it was kind of OD

[verbal whale]

hikaru is just so good as aki

converts every single shit or interaction

[weary widget]

It’s not 5.Mp

[verbal whale]

what

[weary widget]

It’s 5.Lk

[verbal whale]

hikaru is doing stmp now

wait lemme see if i find a clip

[weary widget]

Send a clip

@cosmic scarab you good to go?

[cosmic scarab]

Yea @weary widget

[weary widget]

Sent you an invite

[cosmic scarab]

Can you send it again

[weary widget]

I did

[verbal whale]

i know which vod it is but i’m not at the pc since it’s 1am here

i’ll send it tomorrow

[weary widget]

Ok

@cosmic scarab take notes during this set

Noticed how I almost never made the first move during a round

[cosmic scarab]

That’s was hard to deal with. I’m real see I’m not that good. But I’ll watch the replays. Yea

[weary widget]

We all start somewhere and honestly your better than a lot of plats I’ve played against

I also used a “forbidden” reset

[cosmic scarab]

I don’t know what to do after I get a knock down combo and keep corner pressure

[weary widget]

Well I occasionally back up because I might be away but the pressure is still there

And there’s quite a bit of stuff you can do it just depends on the knock down my personal favorite and one you should use since your in plat is a safe jump

[cosmic scarab]

Or when to take my turn that gets me blocking too much and eventually get me thrown.

[weary widget]

Well that’s match up dependent

[cosmic scarab]

Should I hit j. Hp low or high on the safe jump

[weary widget]

But typically you’re delay teaching

[weary widget]

Honestly doesn’t matter but the lower the better

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

Thanks for the tips

[weary widget]

Another thing I noticed is you tend to drive rush into grab while that is a good thing it’s not the only thing you wanna do you can tick throw using her jab or 5.Mp

Although it’s better to do jab

[cosmic scarab]

On the drive rush meaty low kick what can I combo off that

[weary widget]

5.Hk into whatever follow up you wanna do kicks or ex lash

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

[kind bronze]

Haven’t made the switch to aki just yet, still playing ryu but I tried Aki out in a casual match

WOW

It is hard to keep people poisoned if you don’t really know how to

I think before I make the switch I’m definitely gonna have to lab her the heck out, relearning a lot of basic stuff

[fickle sundial]

It's not that you want to keep it as long as possible, but to use it for pressure and combo as much as possible

[kind bronze]

Gotcha, question I was actually wondering about her

[fickle sundial]

Shoot the question

[kind bronze]

Do most of her combos set up poison and use it in the same combo? Or is it instead just you have two different strings, one if you have them poisoned the other if you don’t and it’s up to you to get them poisoned by knowing how to

[fickle sundial]

I'm always here

[kind bronze]

Thank youu

[fickle sundial]

Do you just want to talk and me show a bit of Aki wizardry in a few min

Either way, from how I understand your question

You end a combo with a poison application on them

And then the next combo procs the said poison

[kind bronze]

I can’t tbh right now cause I’m watching a show with my pops

Though tmrw im free the whole day pretty much?

[kind bronze]

Aghhh gotcha gotcha

[fickle sundial]

I'm available till like 11pm your time

Maybe midnight if I'm crazy

[kind bronze]

Oh then perfect

Probably later tonight

[fickle sundial]

just lmk ahead

[weary widget]

@verbal whale so I did some damage testing and in all honesty it’s just better to do the dash 5.Lk

[slender bone]

must be some kind of funny reason why hikaru does something else

[weary widget]

Hikaru does some strange things

But this one doesn't give much more reward compared to just dashing or drive rushing

[copper yacht]

Have you considered Aki but as a watermelon

Asking for a friend

[slender bone]

[copper yacht]

Congrats on master Denny 😎

You're finally in the club

[slender bone]

heh, the MR loss club

[verbal whale]

what if i used your pfp but the opossum had aki’s hair

[cosmic scarab]

What’s the best button to DI from because mine always get called out and Games anymore FT5?

[slender bone]

DR cr.mp xx DI if you're gonna stun

[cosmic scarab]

Ok What about regular di

Thanks

[slender bone]

Regular DI you don't cancel from a button

[cosmic scarab]

I know but I was looking for like a setup so it’s not really predictable

[slender bone]

you don't really want to be using DI that much anyway

it's not a good habit against stronger players so learning to mash it early is bad

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

[quartz cedar]

@slender bone people finally figured out how to hit crouching heavy punch what do I do now?

[slender bone]

j.hp, you mean?

so this is the hard part, you gotta now realize that only jumping won't get you ahead and you have to spend some time standing grounded

st.mp is a button you kind of want to press sinec you can cancel into DI to stop other people's DI

you also want to work on some better punishes for moves you block

[quartz cedar]

@slender bone I fell back into being way too defensive so I overcompensated and now I’m way too aggressive, how do how do I pick when to walk up and when to block

[slender bone]

we can try some games later to help you ease into it
today is a bad day though since I have ff14 raid

[quartz cedar]

Np, I’ve got GTFO with the boys going on so I wouldn’t be able to anyway

[quartz cedar]

Was I fast enough with my inputs to hit actual aki burnout pressure or was my opponent just bad and mashed at the wrong times?

[slender bone]

you were still a bit slow but they held so much of it so that's good

[cosmic scarab]

Man I need a strategy to beat Jp no matter what I do I hard to get in and focus on everything he puts on the screen. I’m playing lvl 8 cpu but I’m training for a guy at locals I can’t beat. I won once by staying close but he pushes me out. Help me. It’s frustrating.

[verbal whale]

can i change the description with "PEAK LEGEND AKI" ?

[verbal whale]

i don’t think lvl8 cpus are a good sparring partner since afaik they literally read your inputs

[weary widget]

The second I hop on all the Ken’s decide to hop on

God I hate this match up

[verbal whale]

aki ken?

or ed ken

[weary widget]

Yes

I just hate Ken

[verbal whale]

fair enough

[gritty creek]

oh i was about to say damb the glowup

then saw the number

[weary widget]

I feel like he deserved the bag

[lusty drum]

man refused to block

[quartz cedar]

I’ve started to run into a lot of people who either throw tech or invincible reversal on wake up after heavy whip. In order to be out of throw range, I have to single Dash, but they can recognize that and wake up blocking. Is there a way to do my double dash to look convincing but still be out of throw range or am I just dumb and managing to screw up walking backwards after the double dash.

[weary widget]

Well there is the infamous safe jump

[weary widget]

@verbal whale Akilytes, get it? like acolytes

Was literally about to fall asleep and then it hit me

[gritty creek]

iirc you can also do like m-slide for oki

[verbal whale]

you can walk back after double dash

you just have to be committed for it, like you have to take your oki with the idea of walking back

[verbal whale]

[weary widget]

No?

[weary widget]

You can but if you wanna use 2.Mk after it typically drops

[verbal whale]

ye biggest difference is that mslide is +5 and double dash is +6

[weary widget]

The 2.Mk connects but that’s it

You’re better off using double dash or 1 dash into Dr 6.Hk since it’s di safe

[gritty creek]

who tf is doing wake up di

in master

[verbal whale]

some people try it especially if you already showed the meaty fhk

and not many people can tell if that fhk is di safe

[slender bone]

Ares is in gold

[weary widget]

Either hard reads or accidental and the meant to do drive reversal

[slender bone]

the wake up Drev

and getting DI

[quartz cedar]

Can someone send a pic of the aki win screen w the default costume and color, trying to convert another member to the cult of aki while at work

[quartz cedar]

Thx

[verbal whale]

btw @weary widget i'm labbing the walk stmp after crumple

you have to be super late

but you have to only put the stlk before qcfmp

[slender bone]

I've been seeing Broski do it

[verbal whale]

but it's actually 200 more damage

sthk, stance kicks, stlk xx M whip, walk stmp xx hwhip is 200 more than dash stlk xx qcfhp

[slender bone]

makes sense

[fickle sundial]

Wdym you can get a st.mp after h.whip(!) Proc

Is it some corner shenanigans

Oh wait you prolly meant m whip

[slender bone]

mp lash!

[verbal whale]

medium sorry

[fickle sundial]

All good I caught on

Interesting, but why do you need to delay the stmp a lot?

Range issue?

[verbal whale]

yes

in order to make the qcfHP connect

[fickle sundial]

Ahh

I'm gonna try that out

[weary widget]

Ok so after some time I can definitely say that the ed and aki mu is in AKIs favor

[cosmic scarab]

How so? @weary widget and games?

[weary widget]

Sure give me a sec

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

Says room is full

Here

[weary widget]

Forgot I was downloading something my b

Changing controllers and characters

[cosmic scarab]

Ok

What controller you got

[weary widget]

I was using leverless for bison

I use pad for ed and aki

[cosmic scarab]

Bison gets a lot of plus from after devils reverse and psycho crusher

[weary widget]

For Psycho crusher hes only plus on mine detonation

[cosmic scarab]

I went on a streak after playing you I’ve learned

[weary widget]

Ok so lets break it down

[cosmic scarab]

Good set you’re too good

[weary widget]

What do you think you did well

[cosmic scarab]

At first not jumping a lot but blocking and taking my turn

[weary widget]

At first you were jumping alot and while its not terrible its not great either and you adapted pretty well to that

And as for blocking you did do that well enough but there was some really unsafe stuff I was doing and once you get to diamond you will need to start checking those

[cosmic scarab]

Your ed I couldn’t deal with that I can’t think of what I did well but I know I did a lot bad.

[weary widget]

Well yeah I did a lot of the stuff I do against people my rank so I wasnt expecting you to catch on

You did good when it came to parrying charged flicker but that isnt always a great option because as Im sure you saw me do I canceled it and went straight for a grab

[cosmic scarab]

Well I would get close to killing but I just couldn’t capitalize and my corner pressure and defense is weak. Any tips against Ed you could share. Like gaps I can take with a button.

[weary widget]

Well iirc a lot of eds in your rank rely on ex flicker really often so you can just DI on read

Same with charged flicker point blank

You can also Dive flicker and his fireball on reaction

[cosmic scarab]

Ok I couldn’t figure it. The pace you were at I get flustered and I start dropping combos and revert to bad habits. I’ll watch the matches and see why I couldn’t end rounds when I had a chance but I feel like I’ve gotten a lil better I’m surprised I took a couple of matches but thanks again.

[weary widget]

Np man if you have any questions feel free to ask

And as for bison that mu just sucks in general

[cosmic scarab]

What does iirc mean

[weary widget]

If I recall correctly

[cosmic scarab]

Oh ok

[lusty drum]

I cannot AA shadow rise for the life of me so I think I'm better off not trying lol

keep getting stuffed

also what are some good options off of cr.hk punish counter AA? it gives a big juggle state but I keep messing it up

[verbal whale]

depends on the distance, you can cancel it into super, very close you can cancel it into qcbHP DR crhp, mid distance you can DR crlp xx qcfMP, far you can qcfLP

[weary widget]

Wait shadow rise is bisons thing yeah?

[verbal whale]

it's bison command jump iirc

rank1 aki in italy still btw

[weary widget]

Wait garnet had an aki?

[verbal whale]

he he has one

plays her into shotos i think, he used it against takamura in WW

[weary widget]

Ah ok

[agile peak]

I am unsure of what to ask, but I have been struggling to break out of diamond with this character and I cannot figure out where I am really going wrong. I can drop some replay codes if anyone wants to review them

[slender bone]

sure

[agile peak]

AXG6KB6HY, VXF6CKJNA

[slender bone]

ok let me look

[agile peak]

appreciate it alot

[slender bone]

AXG6KB6HY

• DI in strange situations
• DR st.hk is often worse than DR cr.lk / DR cr.mk due to the range and effective combo potential
• Cooked by cr.mk xx DR from Chun

VXF6CKJNA

• meaty after hp lash needs to be confirmable (single st.mp is not it)
• DI ought to only be used in 2 situations; counter or part of a stunning sequence like DR cr.mp xx DI

There wasn't a whole lot in these 2 replays but I feel like your capabilities are not solid
I think a good idea would be to dial back on some aspects of your gameplay and do easier stuff that is repeatable

For example, you already use mk snake step after hp lash so what meaty options do you have after that? Throw? Shimmy? What confirmable route is available there? Does this work in the corner or are you doing something different?

Do not do too many things at once or you're going to get lost when a situation arises
Do keep some routes simple until you're fully aware of when it'll work so that you can move onto something more damaging

[agile peak]

I gotcha, thank you

[slender bone]

bruh

that should be illegal

[lusty drum]

I landed that shit on someone a couple weeks ago and I was cackling

like the game after I learned about it

broski is live btw my aki friends

[verbal whale]

https://clips.twitch.tv/FlaccidIncredulousStorkFeelsBadMan-PnWZB2d1XccGqqwb

[lusty drum]

https://vxtwitter.com/reiq/status/1821002127164277210

[cosmic scarab]

Fire

[copper yacht]

I can high crush di meterless right

How do I do that

Slide? crouch? does either work?

[slender bone]

low profile?

[copper yacht]

Yeah

[slender bone]

heel strike is how
I don't know if snake step is actually reliable

[verbal whale]

ye stance works

remember to actually wait for the DI animation to end before using the kicks

cause the frame you press your kicks aki’s hurtbox returns to normal

[copper yacht]

Does it depend on the DI or does that work for everyone

[verbal whale]

works for everyone

like aki hurtbox during the stance is low profiling DI

[verbal whale]

🙇‍♂️

[slender bone]

let's go

[fickle sundial]

Broski my goat

[crude path]

🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐

[crude path]

heel-strike is a semi-low profile, it'll go under standing attacks like Ryu stHP or Ryu stLP, but it'll be hit by attacks like crLP or LKs

it also doesnt go under fireballs, which is a huge shame because the low-profile stops and semi-low profile begins as SOON as AKI transitions into heel strike

it disallows going under a fireball at point-blank and subsequently punishing with heel strike, unless it's a really slow fireball like AKI's own

[crude path]

Random bit of AKI trivia, but some of her attacks are named after some of the Nine Sons of the Dragon, the mythological sons of the Dragon King

Her overhead or 3MP is named after Pu Lao

6HK is named after Qiu Niu

and her Super Art 3 is called Claws of Ya zi

[crude path]

https://vxtwitter.com/HiFightTH/status/1707396085533339969

old tweet but I think abt this a lot lol

[weary widget]

Is that an actual reference

[crude path]

who knows

[crude path]

has anyone here seen Broski's new vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vod47laQs6E

why is it when Broski lands DR~fHK, he skips stMK and goes straight to stMP

because he could do DR~fHK, stMK, stMP and still be able to continue the same routing afterward with H whip or M Whip

fHK is naturally +4oH, so DR~ makes it +8 and stMK is 8f, whereas stMP is just 6f

[slender bone]

might be how he plays or unsure of spacing for some reason

[crude path]

weird

[verbal whale]

it can also be tournament combo, as easy as it is you are doing a link for not that much damage

and the window is bigger

[slender bone]

^

[crude path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhbtDAd7yRA

I watched this vid and I landed this 'move' (the explosion part of nightshade chaser) several times, a few in a single set against a Ryu

it catches late jumps against the fireball because the fireballs hurtbox expands rapidly

or alternatively you can catch people jumping it wayyy too early

tho those are not very common, but its nice to have the option to catch someone off-guard with it

[weary widget]

Adds more scaling

[cosmic scarab]

Believers I did a thing. Behold a work of art. I did the artwork as an amateur and build it myself as a first time build.
“My Magnum Opus!”

[crude path]

THATS SO COOLLLLLL

[cosmic scarab]

Thanks AKI is cool.

[crude path]

so cool

[weary widget]

The coolest

[slender bone]

dang that is well done

[cosmic scarab]

Thanks

[cosmic scarab]

What’s a combo I can link after DR 6Hk? I feel my offense is repeating the same bnb combos that opponents catch on to, so any suggestions on meaty setups or okis. That’s not the regular bnbs? I also see that a lot of people have learn to jab out after snake step into kicks will 5lk continue the block stun?

[slender bone]

f.hk is +4 oH normally, so anything that is 8f or faster

[cosmic scarab]

Ok thanks

[weary widget]

There’s a plethora of oki options what is your current gameplan

[cosmic scarab]

Just seeing this @weary widget I been using dr CrMk into StHK or switch that between Dr Mp overhead combo. Haven’t got much out of Dr FHk. I guess I just need to learn new combos. Because It just leads back to me doing snake stance in to double kicks double punches or lk mwhip until it’s blocked

[weary widget]

Well Honestly 6.Hk is really used on drive rush and after a drive russh 6..Hk and on a few meaty set ups and tbh you really only need that combo for mid screen no poison. What you could do is try to learn some new poison combos/setups

[crude path]

Im watching Brian_F play AKI and he got the +84KD with Stance ~P

and his set up was puddle into empty stMP

what does this set up? Does the stMP bring him closer and frame-kill for an auto-timed strike-throw?

imma test that rn before I play dbd

yeah no it doesn't

Im not sure why he went for that then

https://youtu.be/7tG443LDsQA?si=JTANi8sVZzHNZU02&t=1598

here's the clip he did BTW

+84KD, Puddle set into stMP makes AKI +12

which is like, very not useful

[slender bone]

I don't really watch anyone outside of Broski or Hikaru

I don't really think there's any value in watching people who aren't those 2

[crude path]

yeah, it should've been clear a while ago he isn't an AKI main lol

I thought he mightve been copying something he saw Broski do

because he was talking to broski earlier in the vid

but he was probably trying to make framekills up on the spot

but yeah +12 is so bad that it perfectly sets up your opponent for DI'ing your fHK

[verbal whale]

hikaru does that too sometimes, it’s to make auto timing easier, timing a meaty crmk manually is easier while being +12 rather than like +40

[fickle sundial]

Dia is a good player who got into Aki from the start of S2

I think he makes good shit usually or at least his streams are very enjoyable

and relatable honestly

bc he isnt perfect at Aki

[slender bone]

I've only ever watched one of his videos and he said "Kimberly's 5H is good" and I went, "ye anime player, no need to watch this anymore"

[verbal whale]

[slender bone]

(nevermind the fact that both st.hp and st.hk are good)

[verbal whale]

but ye for the question colossus had, sometimes you can franekill to make manual time stuff easier, that’s why sometimes you see hikaru do stuff like stLP or stMP or stLK after puddle on the +84KD

[slender bone]

ye like you said +12 is easier to time than +40

[slender bone]

haha my Aki is so scuffed

[weary widget]

Well I do it cause it gives me like three options, meaty throw, meaty 6.Hk, and I don’t know if it still works but meaty 2.Mk

[verbal whale]

how did the ranked sesh go denz

[slender bone]

-55 MR

(I think)

[verbal whale]

oh well that’s not too bad

[slender bone]

well maybe 25, I started at 1516 went up to 1530? then down to 1487

I dunno, MR is whatever

[verbal whale]

mr is very volatile

VERY volatile

[slender bone]

nah

only players

if you're strong enough, you only go up until you run out of people around your level

[weary widget]

Remember always throw a bad fireball against gief

[crude path]

Its so satisfying when there is a clear and evident gap between your skill and someone elses

I played 14 mirror matches against another AKI and she didnt do any fancy AKI stuff that I've been doing for a long time

didnt do safejumps with H Whip, didnt do any set ups with Stance ~P (toxic blossom)

she kept ending her comboes with L Whip and I realised she's only +1 after L Whip, and she keeps doing stMP, so if I press crLP I can just completely ruin her day

[crude path]

I found a fun thing to do, has anyone seen Broski's newest vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IZYe0ptZEs

[fickle sundial]

I did yeah

good vid

[crude path]

the 5th move in this video is Adamant Flame, and in the video Broski tells you to start doing drills to react and identify each version of Adamant Flame

Akuma makes a different sound on each version

its actually really fun lol

[slender bone]

I always just jab after every one because I'm too lazy to lab it

[fickle sundial]

^

Most consistent and easiest to do thing

Optimising your punish on these adamant flames is smth Broski should and does care abt

bc he is high level and competes in WW and such

[slender bone]

like

[fickle sundial]

but we dont need that

[slender bone]

optimal punishes are soooooooo far away for me as it is

[fickle sundial]

there is plenty of other shit to learn or do

[slender bone]

I don't do optional punishes on normal shit

[fickle sundial]

Valid

[slender bone]

nevermind funky shit like Adamant

[fickle sundial]

Only thing I do for the heavy one

is if my enemy keeps spamming it

I just DI

works if no super

[slender bone]

just let them do the whole thing and they are like -16

[fickle sundial]

They rarely do the whole thing, just the first part

so that way they are safe

[slender bone]

ye

[fickle sundial]

https://fxtwitter.com/broskiFGC/status/1828852734847582376?t=kT4a0MXC3W4FWizSP94l-A&s=19

Christ

[verbal whale]

he won’t greed the lvl1 next time

[slender bone]

he is so good lul

[fickle sundial]

The heel strike at the end was the shocker for me

didnt know you can do it

[slender bone]

I feel like normally he would do lp lash there

[crude path]

https://vxtwitter.com/TArsanyazmy/status/1828861588654436589

https://vxtwitter.com/broskiFGC/status/1828852734847582376

I found out from this clip that, in the DI stun combo, if you burn out from doing the 236PP, instead of doing DR~stHK xx stance~P into OTG super, you can do Stance~ K and it'll catch the opponent after the bubble then you can super-cancel that

[weary widget]

Fortunately I played akuma so I accidentally memorized it

[cosmic scarab]

@weary widget can I get some practice with you?

[weary widget]

Not tonight but for sure tomorrow

[cosmic scarab]

Ok cool

[hoary lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmH2bjrckps

If someone wants to give me some advice against Luke, I’d really appreciate it. Felt a bit lost. Besides a couple of panic moments (two qcf kk, one dumb di) I’m not sure what I should have been doing. Tried to check DR 4 times and 3 I ate a combo, I’m assuming because I was too slow, not sure if Luke has guaranteed DR safe approach after his fireball?

[copper yacht]

Hmm on the drs, it looks like you could've checked them

I saw one that you were just too slow and didn't even get ch, one where you got ch out of heavy bubble, one where you went for s.mp but were just a little slow (I would tried s.lk there maybe)

In general, there are two things that stand out to me, although idk how Luke-specific they are

[slender bone]

CH f.hk is +6

[copper yacht]

The simpler of the two is that you don't seem as ready to convert off your hits

^^

This Luke was turning his hits into big combos

[slender bone]

What's with the lights into cr.mk

[copper yacht]

Aside from that one counter di you just didn't seem ready to do combos most of the time

Like when you blocked the knuckle and punished with pc c.mk > nothing

It's one thing to not know if it'll punish ofc but if it lands pc you should have plenty of time to convert off it

You get a roundhouse there! Big news!

[slender bone]

I think checking DR is probably not actually a main focus here

[copper yacht]

The other thing, and honestly I think it was a bigger problem, is that you spend most of your time just kinda walking back and forth in the midrange

Not that that's a bad idea

But you're not doing other stuff

When he's throwing fireballs, you're just blocking them

You can jump, you can parry, you can coward crouch, you can toss your own

But you'll just kinda shimmy back and forth and then eat a dr c.mk

You'll throw an ex fireball and then let it take space but hardly follow it in

I don't think you dred in at all, even when you had the fireball out

Check that one point in time where you burned him out

He had no gauge, no super

He was totally at your whims

But your whims were kinda just to stare him down while his bar went back up

[slender bone]

^ all of that

[copper yacht]

Playing reactively can be a good idea but not if you let him walk all over you

I think you lost these games because the Luke was making active efforts to open you up and you weren't really doing the same - the drs are a consequence of that but you could've been doing the same stuff to him

[hoary lynx]

Can you hitconfirm every pc? I honestly had no idea

[hoary lynx]

Too focused in reactions, if he’ll jump, if he drive rushes, if he fireballs, if he dashes forward. I tend to not attack, not sure if because it’s not my style or I haven’t learned yet to do it properly

[copper yacht]

It's not always feasible but confirming a link off that c.mk there is totally doable

Especially since you should've been expecting it to hit

[hoary lynx]

I’ll check when I’m back home. But yeah, I often do this. If I go on the offensive it tends to not work for me, I’m very flowcharty and I still don’t know safe ways to attack besides st hp into light knees

[copper yacht]

I get the impression that it's the latter more than the former

You don't look like you're comfortable going in

[hoary lynx]

Also affects that I don’t know any combo starting with cr mk lol

So I guess I’ll look into it at home

[copper yacht]

So even when it's 100% time to go in, you're just kinda standing there waiting for something to happen

[copper yacht]

Haha pc c.mk gives you s.hk

Same as dr c.mk (which is a sick option to start using!)

Try playing games where you make it a point to go outside your comfort zone by using new options

Jump, raw dr, ex dive in, s.mp drc, etc etc

Try experimenting with different options against fireballs and see what you like, see what you don't, figure out why

[hoary lynx]

Lol, ok, cool to know

[copper yacht]

You can dive over them, you can parry, you can coward crouch preemptively and lunge on reaction to the fireball throw for a punish

[hoary lynx]

Is the normal thing to do in this case just
cr. mk, st. hk, qcf. lp?

[copper yacht]

Hmm I don't remember how far away you were but you'd at least be able to get s.hk xx qcf mp

Since it forces stand

[hoary lynx]

true, cool, thank you

I still am unsure how you were so sure this was going to PC though. Is it just knowing frame data and experience? I think this is one of the first times I block a qcb lp charged from a Luke, so I had no idea about the frame data in question

sorry for being obtuse, just trying to get it

[hoary lynx]

I assume it's because there are 16 frames of hitstun and therefore you can react to the PC tag?

finding a bit hard to do on reaction, tbh

[copper yacht]

So ideally, yes it'd be a combination of those two things

To be real with you, I didn't know that it would punish

But lp knuckle is a big combo starting move, so there's a good chance that you get some sort of punish - I knew that for sure

When you press c.mk there, even if you're not 100% that it'll punish, there are only a couple possible outcomes

It landing pc is likely, so you're not reacting to it outta nowhere like if you just walk up c.mk in neutral

[hoary lynx]

hm, kay

I usually just do it for "get out of me" buttons so I don't even look for those, guess I should

about the raw dr approach, you always do it behind a fireball right? I have an issue with dropping too much drive gauge in the ex. fireballs and blocking so I'm finding adding a couple of raw dr here and there is really hurting the gauge in general

[lusty drum]

safer behind a fireball, but if they don't check my drive rush I'll just do it raw sometimes

fireball can also bait out jumps if you're ready to slap them with a st.hk or h.whip out of the drive rush

but yeah using the fireball to cover your approach is very strong

[copper yacht]

You also get a lot of mileage over doing lp fireball without having to spend the bar

It's worth doing that sometimes

Then you can spend the bar on your dr instead

[lusty drum]

aki is very drive meter efficient so I don't mind getting spendy

[hoary lynx]

ok, thanks. Am trying to apply it this afternoon from time to time but I think it's just too obvious and people just tend to block

[lusty drum]

if they block then you're in for free

[peak crystal]

AKI

qiu niu - 6HK

Startup

14

Active

3(5)3

Recovery

16(24)

On Hit

4

On Block

2

Forces stand on hit, Low crushes on frames 11-26 (not actually airborne at all), Excellent Drive Rush and bully tool going over low attacks and being plus on block naturally, Carries over Counter-Hit / Punish Counter bonus frame advantage to both hits, First hit puts airborne opponents into a limited juggle state (second hit air resets them), +8F extra recovery frames (24F) on whiff, Incurs 20% damage scaling penalty if used as the first hit of a combo

[hoary lynx]

I'm getting some hits from time to time as well so it's worth it, I think I just struggle with offensive stuff

[slender bone]

I definitely use that button too often

[weary widget]

Playing against cammy is torture

[verbal whale]

i share cause i didn't know but you can sideswitch here

[weary widget]

Cursed side switch

[hoary lynx]

If anyone on EU would like to have some matches or give tips for the mirror, I would appreciate it ;-

[fickle sundial]

https://www.twitch.tv/hikaru_shiftne/clip/OnerousStrangeCakeSquadGoals-3yxsToBJ7Nd6ZoZt

What a beast at converting shit

[verbal whale]

it’s cool cause both devil reverse and demon flip give you a pretty good juggle

[fickle sundial]

https://www.twitch.tv/hikaru_shiftne/clip/LovelyDeadGoldfishNomNom-C18bo7cyyo28lQ1K

[hoary lynx]

What are the options with Aki to extend a combo with Dr starting with St. hk?

or well, one decent option

[fickle sundial]

Imma let @verbal whale cook on this

[hoary lynx]

anything basic works for me

[fickle sundial]

generally speaking tho you extend it with st.hk>st.mk>st.mp

into whip ofc

if you wanna kill you do xx DRC st.mk>st.HK>heels>lights into st.LK h whip

[hoary lynx]

but how do you get there? From a normal st. hk

sometimes I get people from it but the only thing I can get off that right now is the basic heels + light + whip

[fickle sundial]

You wanted DRC extentions from st.hk correct?

[hoary lynx]

yeah. Ok, so the combo is st.hk DRC st. mk... and so on?

[fickle sundial]

yeah thats the common DRC extension

I dont like DRC conversions too much tho except if it kills

I'd rather spend drive gauge for EX specials or oki

[hoary lynx]

how do you extend it more than once?

ok, on the second st hk

got it

thanks

[fickle sundial]

you extend it on the st.mp part

not the 2nd st.hk

[hoary lynx]

ah, I was doing st. hk DRC st. mk > st. hk DRC st. mk > st. hk, heels (finish combo)

any reason to go for st mk > st mp in the middle?

[fickle sundial]

It links natively and is free damage

[hoary lynx]

this one seems to do 100 more damage though? maybe I'm not understanding correctly

I don't need it optimal though, both work for me

thanks again

[verbal whale]

depends how much you wanna spend
3 bars is stmk, sthk xx stance kicks, lights xx ender
6 bars is sthk ,stmk, stmp DRC stmk, sthk xx ender (max damage midscreen is stance kicks, crlp, stlk xx fireball, followup xx lvl3)

[fickle sundial]

Oh so my advice is better just for full drive combo

"Cashout"

[hoary lynx]

cool, thanks!

[latent vale]

Hello guy's what good combo after a DI ?

https://youtu.be/1yrJWppq2Q8
I am currently trying to learn this ones but i am having a rough time lol

[verbal whale]

this one is fine

if you want corner carry you wanna do DI PC, jHK, PDR sthk xx dive

harder tho

[latent vale]

do you have a video of that pls ?

[verbal whale]

gimme 15 mins and i can record

[latent vale]

Thank you very much

The video of broski got too many infos and combos, i don't know where to start lol

i only use the 2LP 2LP 236HP

[verbal whale]

ok sorry time to get dinner and i do everything

like 30 more

[verbal whale]

those are the 2 i use

[latent vale]

Thank you very much 🙂

[weary widget]

Yeah I almost exclusively use the first one

[latent vale]

I cannot finish the first one i almost always whiff the 236HP when i manage to get him*

i can get all the combo if i don't use the 5LK, but every time i use it, i miss the combo

[dreamy zinc]

am i to slow on the heavy chain? cant seem to get it land

[slender bone]

yes, you aren't cancelling the cr.lp

you're mashing too much

[dreamy zinc]

[verbal whale]

i use the second one only on poison

that does corner to corner

[weary widget]

True but I like the oki

[verbal whale]

RANK1 IN ITALY

[hoary lynx]

I use it without the 5lk, too finicky for me otherwise

[crude path]

I couldnt hit rank 1 in my region if I wanted to. Mainly because I share a region with Broski, Endingwalker, Lexx and more...

[copper yacht]

That just means it'll be all the more rewarding when you do

[dreamy zinc]

the classic

[weary widget]

BTW this guy this is how the guy played

[slender bone]

lmfao

hasho into od dp

[weary widget]

But I’m the problem

[slender bone]

It's your fault
It could be my fault but I don't like that so it's your fault

[weary widget]

You’re right I’m wrong