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#Offering help on Guilty Gear XRD Rev2
marble cipher
Offering help on Guilty Gear XRD Rev2
austere portal
hi i am very interested in learning Johny could you help me with getting a grasp of combos neutral etc
austere portal
EHM EHM
he do damage and coin = better sword thing
also combo from slash to mist thingt
neutrel you can poke with slash i thin
also if you get coin in combo you do extra damage for the stonks
@marble cipher
marble cipher
yeee thats already pretty good basic understanding of him
austere portal
What da hell
marble cipher
neutral is a lot about getting any move on block and then doing mist cancels to force + frames
austere portal
i learned that in 5 minutes from dustloop
marble cipher
or going in with zwei
austere portal
cool
marble cipher
johnny is not terribly complicated character
as johnny you just want to get atleast one coin in at any point so your combos become better and start to loop
austere portal
oki
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but like if you were to learn just couple bnb's we could potentially do few matches and see how it goes, and i can give you input based on that
marble cipher
since understanding johnny basics and actually doing them is gonna be bit different
austere portal
i can be ready if you tell me when
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i could do some sets tomorrow
austere portal
oki if your up we could do them now
marble cipher
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm its bit late but i guess i could squeeze short set in and see how you do
where are you from, just to make sure that we can actually play :D
austere portal
norway
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ah should be good then since i am from finland
austere portal
oh cool
austere portal
couldnt find
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🤔
austere portal
it is j4oi right
marble cipher
no worries, nothing wrong in being new!
austere portal
gtg be back in like 20 minutes
austere portal
before i go i will just say i will hit up training mode before we continue
i am better normaly i swear
not at neutral though
marble cipher
few main things to consider as you are starting to learn the character:
- Most knockdowns allows you to throw coin to get a level for your mist stance
- Normal on block into mist stance into stance cancel can make you very +frames
- You just need to learn couple bnb's and you already got a goal to achieve during games and get some structure to your play
marble cipher
i am better normaly i swear
i mean its fine, you are new and there are no expectations, so dont worry about how well you do at this moment
what is important is that we are learning :P
nothing more
austere portal
ok i just made a combo its 5p 5k glitter is gold slash and then slash in the middle
austere portal
also if you could you help me with finding bnbs in any way
should i like learn the once in dustloop
marble cipher
you should definitely look up on dustloop for combos
it has decent listing of the bnb's
marble cipher
ok i just made a combo its 5p 5k glitter is gold slash and then slash in the mid...
thats a good start 👍
once you learn few of the bnb's for different situations
most of the bnb combos also give you standard oki where you get to dash in for meaty moves or do zwei yrc for high/low
but that comes after the combos
elfin veldt
in particular this playlist is a great place to start https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdTZ1_bahz1N9cQhir1tGLWL0LAaeNSAK
austere portal
thank you you are very helpfull
arctic timber
Any tips you can give for venom
marble cipher
that is a very vague question
in pressure, neutral, defense?
general tips would be like, summon a ball at full screen if given opportunity
stinger yrc is strong neutral tool
fS/2S/6P/6H are all good normals to cover different angles in neutral and prevent opponent from dashing in
learn the K ball oki
its super effective oki setup from most knockdowns
@arctic timber
but being bit more specific on what kind of help you need would help a ton
arctic timber
pressure and neutral would be cool
marble cipher
pressure is all about carcass raid for venom
so learning to do cS>carcass raid
or other normals into it during pressure is key to effective offense
since it lets you net huge plus frames to dash back in
jump cancellable normals can go into TK mad struggle for easy overhead into combo
QV is your frame trap special
non charged version is fast and tighter frame trap, but minus on block
but once your opponent respects the non charged version, you get to charge it slightly or longer and it becomes more plus on block
2D is extremely low profiling move
that can go under most things that dont hit directly on the floor
dustloop also has very good video tutorials on most things
most notably, the K ball oki is very important
on combo side of things you kinda need to learn 2 different combos
the cS>iad loop
and cS(2hit)>QV>5P>iad loop
cS wont hit on crouchers 3 hit and launch, so you gotta have hitconfirm on them with the QV route
if you can do those 2 combos you can cover like 90% of situations with those
and they both lead into K ball oki
thats some general notes
i guess i should add that dark angel super is one of the best in the game
extremely good on block due to heavy chip dmg, very good frame advantage, insane setup tool on knockdowns
arctic timber
i guess i should add that dark angel super is one of the best in the game
That the giant ball right?
marble cipher
yea
arctic timber
cool
fathom horizon
how do i actually learn usful combos and just improve my combo game in general
elfin veldt
Check out character resources such as dustloop, figure out what your most common starters are and look for combos from those starters
fathom horizon
Cool thanks
marble cipher
yeah thats a good start