🏹・survival-games

[marble vine]

ty!

[prisma cape]

That is such a wrong take. The game was one dimension, slow and arguably boring. We're trying to fix that and create a fun balance experience.

[cloud marten]

ok, i wont, either way i didnt mean to eat chicken in a web. I Hate when you scrool the mouse

[dense slate]

There is a rediculous amount of bullting new players or players that dont abuse certain features of the game. They are taking over and making it nearly impossible to enjoy

[hot dirge]

why not make an effort to tweak the preview to what you like then? 😀

[celest vault]

I think there should be two game modes. An original version termed "Classic" and the new one

[hot dirge]

instead of holding on to the miserable and sad old sg

[reef stirrup]

But you can see how many people are playing sg rn, i get its because the new update but almost 1k people, if it was exactly 1k and it was a perfect world it would be 500 500 around the amount it had before. I am trying to give suggestions to fix the problem or at least make it better

[stray stag]

this was not the way to go about it

[oblique olive]

they're not trying to drive sg veterans away, they're trying to add more features to the game to bring new players while trying to make the game fun for both parties

[devout oyster]

There is a learning curve to all games, that's how it is. The same could be said about any other game

[astral crane]

As much as I am not a personal fan of the update being a long time sg player I dont think splitting is the way to go. we are better of just finding a balance between the people who dont like and like the update

[dense slate]

no

[celest vault]

Oh lol. I'm on controller so I don't know how that feels

[hot dirge]

right that was subjective

[stray stag]

Keep the things people like, so that we can always play TheHive survival games we have known for a long time.

[prisma cape]

Then I'm afraid you're not gonna like me. We try our best and are doing what we think is right for the greater community 🙂

[oblique olive]

yes i agree

[blazing hemlock]

I agree completely. You had to rely completely on raw pvp skill and as a mobile player with no PBMM, that was very hard. Now there is a bit of other skill as well, likeusing boomboxes.

[stray stag]

Mobile players hold back the bedrock edition, I miss when they had their own version.

[prisma cape]

To those being constructive, thank you so much! We read all the comments and will make adjustments where needed 🙂

[hot dirge]

tweak the preview to your liking instead of wanting nothing changed at all! sg had incredibly low player counts

[queen quarry]

I agree when the new tw update came out all we had to do was adjust our play styles

[reef stirrup]

It was better, more difficult, i think most of the sg community on hive likes a challenge. But the new game mode made it a bit too easy taking away that feeling of accomplishment of winning a game that is hard to play.

[cloud marten]

I Was controller way back in the day

[blazing hemlock]

this isnt helpful at all. Not everyone is priviliged enough to be able to afford everything

[jagged zinc]

yeah this is what i believe as well

especially since players new to hive won't understand the boom boxes or what 1/2 the new items added are

SG is normally the go to game when players are new to a server and adding all these items to SG rather than having it base pvp is a bad idea

along with players that enjoyed SG as it was

[stray stag]

Nobody made that argument when MCPE was its own version.

[hot dirge]

more difficult? man all the new stuff adds so much depth to the game fights got 2x better

[oblique olive]

i feel like this new mode is more challenging as there are new strategies that u have to account for now

[celest vault]

I started to learn kb&m, such a whole new experience

[cloud marten]

alright, imma go, have a great day guys

[torpid bear]

Please just try to give the preview an actual chance, it's only been out for a few hours Play around with all the new stuff, you might actually find something you really like. Sure change may not always be something for everyone, but is actually needed to bring the game forward

[celest vault]

You too!

[prisma cape]

no u

[blazing hemlock]

:o

[tired jolt]

Would it be possible for certain boomboxes to explode on impact instead of a fuse? It would make some boomboxes more interesting imo

[hot dirge]

everyone has an equal chance to win? "easier" is not it

[stray stag]

SG was boring, and it needs spicing up, but this preview needs to be balanced heavily.

[dense slate]

can we make it a little less intense and a little more fun? I feel like with any game that has certain overly competitive aspects it draws more toxic players (Ex:Fortnite)

[prisma cape]

Totally!! Suggest it on the forums to see if others agree 🙂 Boomboxes in general will be balanced

[hot dirge]

intense IS fun

[tired jolt]

Will do

[odd flume]

Make a personal list, keep coming back to it over the day or so and see where you land with it. Then make sure to make a thread of post it here 😄

[oblique olive]

that's what the preview is for

[hot dirge]

your meaning of fun is simple and slow

[oblique olive]

agreed

[reef stirrup]

To be fair that is semi true, but there are so much stuff that are the opposite. Like lets say the supply crate thing, part of the drops are to whoever finds them first, hunting them down. Adding the supply crate tracker just defeats the rush to find it. You know where it would be

[blazing hemlock]

i think adding pearls from cows and maybe supply drops would be cool

[astral crane]

one thing I love tho is the activity viewer its gonna make SG so much more fun

[hot dirge]

didnt you say you want the update to be easier on new players? why be harsh with the ones with no knowledge on the locations lol

[dense slate]

true but when everyone goes after everyone immediately it puts a certain pressure that makes it uncomfortable to play after a certain time

[jagged zinc]

this is another thing i see wrong with the update

i see how people would want an equal chance, but for players that are actually good there should be a classic SG as to keep SG a challenge and not make it to where any noob can win because of the things added to "alance" the game

[blazing hemlock]

it could be useful both offensively and defensively

[oblique olive]

that's why people are saying to lower the amount of supply crates in the game at a single time and to lower the drop rate of flares

[devout oyster]

It's probably worth mentioning that adding an easier way to find supply crates was one of the most requested features since SG was released

[astral crane]

they has pearls originally.... didnt go so well

[umbral oak]

Trios or squads in sg ???

[supple mural]

I think people are overreacting as this preview literally just came out today

[torpid bear]

Totally! Makes the game so much faster and interesting

[blazing hemlock]

hive sg before was way to rng based

someone could get 2 dia pieces and chain iron from a mid chest

[jagged zinc]

wdym? it's more rng based now that it was then

[blazing hemlock]

someone else gets 3 chicken

[hot dirge]

the loot was literally changed...

[oblique olive]

chance and skill are both crucial factors in any game
it allows skilled players to come up with new strategies based on their circumstance, and allows noobs to still have a chance at winning instead of just dying to some pro

[blazing hemlock]

thats my point

[queen quarry]

I think crumbling cobble should be added so people have more freedom of movement, it would also make fights play out differently

[mortal mica]

Is pbmm active in the preview?

[hot dirge]

you cant make arguments on rng mostly unless its too unfair. its battle royale

[zinc helm]

Please no

[hot dirge]

you want equal gear? suggest duels then lol

[dense slate]

Im pretty sure there a no newbs this tima around they were ALL harassed by tryhards

[oblique olive]

adding blocks may completely change the game

[astral crane]

thats just uhc...

[devout oyster]

It'll be active if there are over 300 players playing 🙂

[blazing hemlock]

there were 700 players on earlier and a pc player every game

[devout oyster]

This is a preview mode, it makes a lot of sense that experienced players will be playing

[red trail]

I'm liking the update, I just think the player tracker greatly increases third partying and cleaning, not sure of any ways to fix that though

[mortal mica]

Ah, ig i kinda assumed it would have 300 cos of the preview. Thanks!

[oblique olive]

that's wut the update is for ヾ(•ω•`)o

[jagged zinc]

if hive ever gets the player count where SG might have a chance with a "classic" mode would there ever be a classic mode added?

[dense slate]

please elaborate on how this update helps that fact

[devout oyster]

We're not considering adding a classic mode

[hot dirge]

please, tweak the preview to your liking by making suggestions lol

[celest vault]

the past two weeks have been EXPLODING with updates. Lunar event, Fire Sword change and fire prot, Nemo change, and now THIS?? I wonder how Hive pulled it off...

[zinc helm]

are new levels going to be added ?

[oblique olive]

the new update to sg brings new players into the sg community, while allowing noobs to have more fun in the game

[reef stirrup]

Ok that may be true, but as the game developed (and i dont speak for all but) most people started to like the rush to find it. The adventure i would say to find it, with people trying to hunt it down also. Its like a race thats quite fun. But making it easier is to me worse and takes away all the point of the adventure. So you know in normal survival minecraft with treasure maps it shows the general area of the loot. Well what if the map had a dot exactly where the chest/loot was, it wouldn’t be as much fun because you are taking away the adventure, and excitement of finding it

[devout oyster]

This update is primarily focused on gameplay, but we'll definitely add more levels in the future 🙂

[oblique olive]

probably

[prisma cape]

For example. Instead of saying "I hate it when I'm being rushed it's unfair". Say: "Why don't you make it so the activity tracker doesn't have a signal until X players are left".

Think out of the box, think how gameplay could be better. Don't get stuck in the past 🙂

[hot dirge]

so you are saying to embrace rng

[red trail]

I prefer skill over luck

[jagged zinc]

they've probably been working behind the scenes for the past few months for all these changes to come out at once

[mortal mica]

Just wanna say, the tracker thing is great. Is it a possibility that you would introduce cows into it?

Like, they would be a blue dot or smth

[red trail]

I suggest increasing the kill health from 3 hearts to 4 or maybe 5 hearts

[astral crane]

cow spawn in specific places so u can learn those if u wanna get cows lol

[odd flume]

That was discussed but we thought with letting supply drops be found this way, the cows were the only thing that would still be a surprise

[mortal mica]

ok

thanks!

[odd flume]

and yeah, they are set places, so you can also learn them

[celest vault]

It's impossible playing this preview, without getting constantly recognized and targeted.

[mortal mica]

good point, ig i dont really play sg much

[dense slate]

maybe you can add longer grace period? the immediate slaughter is annoying

[blazing hemlock]

ive learnt most of them in sg4

[celest vault]

Yeah, they have been doing some amazingly work

[blazing hemlock]

yesssssss

[mortal mica]

probably will once the update is out

[hot dirge]

im not the staff

[blazing hemlock]

i get targeted so often

[stray stag]

that's what makes cows and sg good, you know what to expect

[red trail]

there are a lot of recognizable ppl online

[silk path]

so, after playing this update a bit more, i quite enjoy this actually, thing need to be balanced obviously but, that's what the preview is for, overall, great stuff guys :)

[astral crane]

lol ya even im getting targetted on my main

[hot dirge]

also, classic sg has no grace, hive is being generous to the casuals and pe players

[idle sage]

if you'll only take criticism that you want to hear then just update it and dont consider
watch the number drop lower than it already is

[blazing hemlock]

i think high level leaderboard players should be able to nick

like top 5

[stray stag]

with the preview, with so many random new items thrown in, it's just a lot box simulator

[red trail]

Also a bow nerf is NEEDED

[astral crane]

bro plz

[night sail]

It would most likely just confuse players

[oblique olive]

that's probably cause every sweat is playing the preview, so they know who u are and thus target u
its probably best to wait a few hours for the excitement to die down

[mortal mica]

its really laggy for me, but ig thats just my doodoo phone and wifi

[prisma cape]

Yeah we do believe arrows are too common!

[celest vault]

I don't know, the bow is kind of just part of the game

[hot dirge]

no aja its the damage CMON

[red trail]

It is, but it does wayyyy to much damage

[hot dirge]

its THE DAMAGE!!

[daring vapor]

i see alot of staff!

[red trail]

Bow spammers can destroy people

[daring vapor]

im excited

[alpine jewel]

I haven’t even managed to get online yet and people are already downing the preview

[hot dirge]

at range its still a laser cannon

[daring vapor]

i am big fan Splodg3r

[jagged zinc]

arrows seem to be just find

it's the damage that's a problem...

fine*

[red trail]

Bows should be used for combos and taking maybe a heart or two off an enemy, not spamming them to half a heart

[alpine jewel]

Before I didn’t even play SG but now I’m actually interested because of boom boxes and launchpads

[mossy nimbus]

i am recking everyone in sg rn 10 win streak

[celest vault]

Ive edited it based on feedback, so wether you have already seen it or havnt seen it check out my ideas to make sg great again https://forum.playhive.com/t/balance-the-new-preview-sg/33619?u=zoelys_alt

[alpine jewel]

Teleporters are definitely going to be camped however

[hot dirge]

thanks for the video idea

[queen quarry]

This may be a bad idea but I was thinking it would be cool to remove wood swords from the loot table and just make everyone spawn with one so if they cant find a weapon they at least stand a chance.

[red trail]

lol

[hot dirge]

LOOOL

[alpine jewel]

Lmao

[celest vault]

definitely, damge needs to be 3/4 or even half of what it is now. Personally, I think they should do something like Mineplex's old SG where the longer the shot, the more the damage

[dense slate]

If you make the game as intense as it is now without seriously cutting it down a notch you WILL get a lot new players at first who will easily learn how to get an upper hand but with no way to let newer players have any upper hand you will lose new players when its overrun with tryhards

[red trail]

honestly a great idea

[alpine jewel]

Cool I helped a streamer

[hot dirge]

not all partners are streamers

[red trail]

that would be cool

[hot dirge]

if anything we are mostly youtubers

[blazing hemlock]

yes ^

[alpine jewel]

Yeah but it’s harder typing you tubers

[hot dirge]

yt

yters

[alpine jewel]

See I messed up already (actually autocorrect but still)

[hot dirge]

its okay

[blazing hemlock]

i run a partners roster

weve found around 80 partners and ~66 of them are yts

[red trail]

How many Twitch streamers

[blazing hemlock]

2

[umbral oak]

Bruh

[blazing hemlock]

but we know of another

[red trail]

ye

very few

[blazing hemlock]

we just dont have enough info

[celest vault]

how many are TikTokkers

[red trail]

Most ppl can't get 70 average viewers

[blazing hemlock]

7-8 iirc

[celest vault]

I mean

[blazing hemlock]

https://forum.playhive.com/t/hive-partners-roster-unofficially-curated/24866

[reef stirrup]

I agree

[celest vault]

I don't get how you could even make a Hive tiktok

[red trail]

Even the current streamers are getting like 20-40 viewers, one of em doesn't even do hive content

forgot his name

[odd flume]

They are wild, some Hive TikToks gets 5Million+ views

[oblique olive]

how

[blazing hemlock]

one of them has 1million followers iirc

[red trail]

cause it's tik tok

[celest vault]

true

[odd flume]

tru

[red trail]

I posted some crappy ender pearl clutch and it got 6k views

[celest vault]

Lol

[red trail]

no edits

so much easier

[celest vault]

People who havnt played kb&m think that e pearl clutches are so hard so they like them lol

The activity tracker thing is kinda confusing, can anyone explain it for me

Haven't played the new preview yet, but I watched PotatoPie's stream, and that is a LOT of new things to play around with

[red trail]

^

Yeah its very fun

[blazing hemlock]

who thinks that tp/launchpad locations should be randomised each game? they currently spawn in the same spot every round

[bleak geode]

red is a human and yellow is a supply crate

[blazing hemlock]

green is a teammate in duos

[red trail]

honestly would be kinda cool

[blazing hemlock]

also multidirectional launchpads might be neat

[red trail]

ye

or being able to rotate them a lil

[versed hare]

What's happening with SG? It's full of hackers!!

[red trail]

no it's not

[celest vault]

And im guessing the red lights moving from left to right, would be some sort of compass pointing towards players, while the number of red lights indicate how many are nearby. Correct me if I'm wrong

[bleak geode]

it’s always been like that

[red trail]

I came across an auto clicker but thats all

[stray stag]

Its just sweats

[celest vault]

I mean, no. Unless the people creating it chose the different possible locations. The reason I say no is that is because they could spawn glitched into a tree or something

[south flicker]

I don’t think the activity tracker works on mobile

[versed hare]

Too many autoclickers

[idle sage]

everyone is just sweaty rn

[versed hare]

Exactly

[south flicker]

I could hear the pinging, but no boxes showed up

[supple mural]

There are people that are actually good at the game on rn

[bleak geode]

yeah, each red light is a different player and you can go specifically in that direction to find them

[red trail]

ye lots of ppl on rn

[versed hare]

Why?

[celest vault]

Ah ok thanks

[versed hare]

Why are there players on right now?

[red trail]

my only problem with the player tracker is that third partying happens a lot more often

[dense slate]

Truth

[stray stag]

imagine being the guy who doesn't know about the update preview

[reef stirrup]

Why didnt that get deleted lol, just a clip of my comboing someone with og loot

[versed hare]

I quit with SG until Hive have sorted it out

[blazing hemlock]

in a few days it will die down probably

youll be able to test it without a sweat every game

[dense slate]

at this point it is nearly unenjoyable

[reef stirrup]

Same

[celest vault]

I'm SUPER suprised the update even came out this MONTH, yet alone TODAY

[idle sage]

i wish that sg would keep things that people wanted and lost everything that no one asked for
like there is no downtime with the update so why have campfires??
boomboxes if they really have to be implemented then balance them
trackers are too common and are really powerful
the rng of the game skyrocketed
solve what people wanted to be solved
this extra is making it so much worse

[stray stag]

yeah, this whole update is not that great

[hot dirge]

im getting the fov changer mod to zoom but i still cant find any constructive criticism

[blazing hemlock]

fr

[hot dirge]

when will people understand what a preview is

[alpine jewel]

Ikr

[celest vault]

Ummmm no? all you have to do is play regular sg and not click the gamemode preview sg

[blazing hemlock]

its like they only care about themselves

[versed hare]

I am playing the regular SG

[reef stirrup]

And i set my render distance up to max and still cant find anyone who asked

[hot dirge]

ooh

[blazing hemlock]

damn

[dense slate]

longer grace period

[blazing hemlock]

they got us there

[stray stag]

that's a good one, I'm using that next time

[alpine jewel]

Where are
The askers
My frieeeeends

[idle sage]

well if no one said anything then how would they know it sucks?

[hot dirge]

we see there's no askers anywhere

alex is tall

turn that uppp

[reef stirrup]

Or should i say

I looked all over my server list and still cant find anyone who asked

[zinc helm]

to make this update really good nerf boom boxes hard, keep looting the same as before. then it will be a good update for the game

[alpine jewel]

Ur server list is probably just bots

[idle sage]

the whole point of a preview is for feedback?????

[stray stag]

to make the update really good, remove breaking chests and boomboxes and keep everything else

[reef stirrup]

Makes no sense

[hot dirge]

by....hearing people talk in a constructive manner instead of "how would they know it sucks"

[dense slate]

longer grace period

[hot dirge]

oh come on im just a sg veteran not a youtuber nor a staff member

[alpine jewel]

Oh please no

[blazing hemlock]

no ur the falcon

lol

[bleak geode]

i am hearing some really bad opinions here lol

[dense slate]

thats my suggestion but there apparently only askers for those who age=ree with your opinion

[celest vault]

The reason why they made a preview in the first place is to get people to make forum threads with ideas to improve the game, not to make people diss hive, i mean like, icant even count higher than 10 and i still can tell how many decent posts there r lol

[hot dirge]

i was singing a song

[reef stirrup]

Like how sg is now good

[hot dirge]

its dope dude

[odd flume]

People are allowed to disagree here, but lets go back on track of keeping it respectful at the same time, please

[devout oyster]

Alright, let's not turn this into arguing

[bleak geode]

hi taria

[idle sage]

there are askers though

[stray stag]

cubecraft has a longer grace period, it's kinda boring

[alpine jewel]

I felt that

[blazing hemlock]

splodg3r, might it be possible to add some kind of sg suggestions channel?

[hot dirge]

im afraid i started something here guys please stop

[dense slate]

dying three second after grace period because people target you is boring

[stray stag]

I don't suffer from this issue, so maybe it's something you're doing wrong

[celest vault]

On the hive forums there is a suggestions channel

[idle sage]

i think it's the flares that ruin it for the grace period

[devout oyster]

We're all actively following this channel, so no need for another channel

[blazing hemlock]

ik

ah ok splodger

[devout oyster]

Let's keep it constructive, no need to argue 🙂

[stray stag]

I run away from spawn every game and don't suffer this problem. If you're going to complain about doing something that gets you killed, don't complain, fix your play style.

[reef stirrup]

There was 0 reason for that to he deleted

[dense slate]

Why didnt you delete the literal guy telling me im playing the game wroing for hab=ving a problem with the game???

[devout oyster]

Comments like that can be taken seriously by people, let's stick to the discussion

[blazing hemlock]

• remove the web and blind boomboxes: way to op
• lower the rate of flares: also op
• only allow 2-3 supply drops at the same time to avoid confusion

[celest vault]

Splodger quick question, would it be possible to make a message telling people to post suggestions on the forums if they have any and then pin it to this channel?

[bleak geode]

what do flares do?

[blazing hemlock]

summon a suplly drop where u throw it

[hot dirge]

removing is never the way to go in my opinion, nerfing them is better

[celest vault]

Call airdrops

[bleak geode]

ohh

[blazing hemlock]

theyre insanely common

[devout oyster]

[celest vault]

Huh interesting

[idle sage]

flares down time maybe
balance boxes if they have to be added
trackers seem too common for what value it has
campfires seem unnecessary with so much going on
the skill aspect seems to not matter as much anymore

[hot dirge]

dont want to remove depth from the game do we

[stray stag]

This man is mad because I'm telling him the game isn't the problem, it's his playstyle. I'm shocked.

[reef stirrup]

Swarms are never coming out, been almost a year

[celest vault]

I agree with most of that except flares, I think flares are fine in rarity

[bleak geode]

you’re quite negative

[blazing hemlock]

i still think they did a slight rate decrease

[celest vault]

Yeah as of right now, I only have an issue with trackers, I got 3 from a single cow lol (atmost 2 seems reasonable)

[blazing hemlock]

i havent been inflicted by the blindness yet, how long does it last and how far can you see?

[odd flume]

We agree campfires, trackers and boom boxes are too common at the moment, we are watching it and continue to make changes 🙂

[celest vault]

@frail sable

You really just teamed on me

[low owl]

its normal blindness and quite annoying

[blazing hemlock]

do campfires affect everyone or just the placer?

[odd flume]

Everyone

[celest vault]

Instead of boxes how about books? Instant health / regen book instead of campfire, fire trail book instead of flame boom box, speed book instead of slowness boom box

[blazing hemlock]

oki

[stray stag]

My hotbar gets filled way too quickly, now, that needs fixing

[blazing hemlock]

press q

[alpine jewel]

Oh that’s busted, just hope your opponent places a healer and then knock em dead and steal the thing

[hot dirge]

campfires are really cool guys

[blazing hemlock]

ye

[hot dirge]

fns finally

[blazing hemlock]

they burn ppl too

[alpine jewel]

Yeah it sounds cool

[blazing hemlock]

?

[bleak geode]

i feel like there’s too many boom boxes, it should be toned down on release like how the treasure wars did that with their update preview

[odd flume]

Well, they are on fire

[hot dirge]

flint and steel

[alpine jewel]

I haven’t played yet tho so I wouldnt know

[blazing hemlock]

or is fire on them?

[celest vault]

A cool trap idea: find someone and sneak up on them, then place a few cobwebs on them, through blindness boombox, and now you can just spam them for the next few seconds

Campfires r cool, but can u make it so that if u accidentally walk on one u dont get on fire?

[bleak geode]

just don’t walk on it

[odd flume]

It can be a tactic to fight around it and knock the enemy onto it

[celest vault]

Fire boombox Is ok

[hot dirge]

it doubles as a fns

[alpine jewel]

...but they’re on fire.

[blazing hemlock]

what is fns

[bleak geode]

ohh true

flint and steel

[blazing hemlock]

ahhh

[alpine jewel]

Just don’t walk on them.

[bleak geode]

interesting

[celest vault]

Launchpad trickshot compilation

[bleak geode]

this is hype

[celest vault]

My current favorite boombox is web boombox, it completely changes the game

[odd flume]

Someone needs to do this

[hot dirge]

gotta get deezee on this

[blazing hemlock]

in a bad way

instead of having to break one cobweb

[low owl]

its a interesting idea but way too common

[bleak geode]

100% a new deezee video in the next 24 hours

[blazing hemlock]

u have to break 20

[celest vault]

No, in a good way. It allows better play for mobile players who can't hit as fast or move very tactically

[blazing hemlock]

im a mobile player and its just annoying

[marble vine]

My favorite thing about the boomboxes, specifically the web and slowness boxes, is that you can stop or slow down people who are running, and if they strafe to dodge them, you gain ground

[blazing hemlock]

maybe a nerf

[celest vault]

@hot dirge i saw ur comment on my post, which things do u agree with and which ones do u not? If you have a better ideo let me know and i will definitely consider editing it into my post

[blazing hemlock]

but it spawns way too many cobwebs

[celest vault]

but that's the point of it

[blazing hemlock]

nO

im suggesting a nerf

or a removal

[alpine jewel]

No removal

[celest vault]

And the cobwebs disappear anyway

[blazing hemlock]

o

[alpine jewel]

Wait did you not know that.

[blazing hemlock]

i forgot

[celest vault]

Why not just up the spawn rates of normal cobwebs

[alpine jewel]

Cause tnt is cooler

[celest vault]

Tru

[zinc helm]

The new update is eh, the reason why hive sg was the best one I’ve ever played was because it’s simple. It’s not hard to know what to do it’s fun it’s simple. Thought running around the map got boring sure, but player compasses would’ve fixed it. I just think the update is a bit much. Hopefully the hive team will balance it out/remove some things. Can’t wait to see some of the issues fixed!

[hot dirge]

i dont wanna go into too much detail because im going to sleep but i dont agree with chest break time, removing teleporters or set drop zones

[hot dirge]

maybe because of trapper bias

[red trail]

I also agree, I think there are a bit too many different types of tnt, and cache cows aren't as good anymore as they more often drop tnt than diamond gear

[remote coral]

theres so much stuff, i love it, so much

[plain sphinx]

I liek the update

[blazing hemlock]

there are 6 boomboxes

i feel like the normal one should removed

[red trail]

ppl see my suggestion: https://forum.playhive.com/t/sg-preview-suggestion/33633

[blazing hemlock]

and the web and blindness removed/heavily nerfed

[plain sphinx]

Ye

[alpine jewel]

How long do you get blinded for

[blazing hemlock]

no idea

[south flicker]

I really don’t think blindness needs to be nerfed

[low owl]

about 5 seconds i think

[celest vault]

To quote PotatoPie, Hive SG used to be a bit of a running simulator. You find items, run around for a while, and kill a player every now and then. I'm glad, because the new preview adds a bit more strategy into the game, and may possibly make duos more playable, since duos before the update was your teammate getting separated from you in the first few seconds, then dying in the next minute

[plain sphinx]

True he was correct

[south flicker]

Even if you’re right on top of it when it detonates, it gives you blindness for no more than 10 seconds

[alpine jewel]

Ok then maybe change it to three

But I don’t think it should be nerfed that bad

[red trail]

I just like the cobweb boomboxes

[alpine jewel]

Same

I haven’t even played and I like them

[red trail]

imo the poison and regular ones are kinda useless

[low owl]

yes but they are really common

[plain sphinx]

I don't hate them but they seem to common

[alpine jewel]

The reg and poison do actual damage

[south flicker]

Staff said earlier that all boom boxes would appear less frequently

[red trail]

KB boomboxes would be cool, but there would need to be a way to balance them to not be used to run away easily

[celest vault]

Yeah, and unless barrier blocks were added to deathmatch arena, people could just boombox onto an unreachable place

[red trail]

yeah boomboxes would require a bit of work to add

KB

[celest vault]

which is also why E pearls can't be added

[red trail]

^

e-pearls would be cool but i can see why they aren't being added

[blazing hemlock]

i mean its an easy fix

just add more barriers

[alpine jewel]

It’s not THAT easy

[celest vault]

not really

[alpine jewel]

They’d have to go to every map and add barriers

That’s like

Pain

For one item

Maybe 2

[red trail]

ye

[blazing hemlock]

but its easy by definition

[celest vault]

there are many more places that shouldn't be reachable besides deathmatch

[blazing hemlock]

just time consuming

[alpine jewel]

Who needs merriam webster

[blazing hemlock]

like eating a clock

[alpine jewel]

Get out

[celest vault]

And they would have to put them on every single tree in Northwood

[red trail]

That was very very very good

[blazing hemlock]

u can spleef the leaves to get em out

[plain sphinx]

And all the buildings

[stray stag]

There's plenty of ways to get on most of the trees in Redwood, that's why leaves are breakable

[alpine jewel]

The second hand embarrassment grows with each passing second

[low owl]

cant they add a play area like in skywars?

[blazing hemlock]

^^

[celest vault]

You can't break blocks in SG

[blazing hemlock]

u can break leaves

[devout oyster]

If we were to add enderpearls it would require a LOT of work to ensure that they couldn't be abused

[blazing hemlock]

and carrots, wheat, mushrooms

[devout oyster]

For now we'll be avoiding them

[alpine jewel]

Add shears (pretend In caps)

[celest vault]

Wait, really?

[blazing hemlock]

yeye

lol

makes for good traps

[odd flume]

SkyWars etc are flat maps, it's easy to add a "max height" - but for SG the maps are wayyyy more complicated

[celest vault]

When was THAT added?

[stray stag]

Sounds like an excuse to not implement a feature that people want

[blazing hemlock]

idk im not an old hive player

[devout oyster]

Since launch haha

[red trail]

lol

[blazing hemlock]

yikes

[alpine jewel]

I’ve never tried that

[celest vault]

I never noticed that feature

[plain sphinx]

Honestly I don't want it so......

[blazing hemlock]

oof

[low owl]

i know but its a better idea than adding barrier to every tree in the map

[odd flume]

Neither of them are good enough ideas to make it to live 😄

[stray stag]

So we have a single person, alright.

[keen grail]

I wish they were totems in sg

[alpine jewel]

Ok no

Just no

[celest vault]

why?

[low owl]

no.

[odd flume]

What would you want totems to do?

[celest vault]

https://forum.playhive.com/t/balance-the-new-preview-sg/33619?u=zoelys_alt
Ive updated it so that way it is easier to read, and it goes over how to fix supply drops landing in places we cant reach, boom boxes cluttering inventories, teleporters, ect.

[stray stag]

ok dude, there's bad ideas and then that idea

[ebon plume]

Hmmm not sure about these changes

[zinc helm]

I have faith that the hive team will fix the Sg update, right now it’s a mess sure, but it’s only the first day of release. Can’t wait to see the finished product guys!

[plain sphinx]

No I can think of many people that would agree with me

[alpine jewel]

Exactly

[ebon plume]

Is the level cap increased?

[odd flume]

The trick to calling in a good supply drop, is to not call it when you are stood under something

[stray stag]

That's a given.

[odd flume]

You'd think so

[blazing hemlock]

the only place totems should be is to open the unlocks

[celest vault]

And if they did add E pearls, they wouldn't just add barriers, it wouldn't make sense for the newer players. They would probably have to make a whole new enderpearl retrieving system that returned your E pearl, at least I think. It sounds like a thing they would add

Can I ask, what was the reason behind adding flares and callable supply drops?

[plain sphinx]

Epearls would just make the game 100x more complex

[blazing hemlock]

many many people wanted it

[red trail]

It's like hive java

[alpine jewel]

I’ll tell you, I could never find a supply drop or cow until now

[red trail]

they had/have callable supply drops

[blazing hemlock]

people got too stacked off of it because only certain people found them

[alpine jewel]

My stats are terrible

[celest vault]

yeah but on hive java they seem more balanced, could just be me though

[alpine jewel]

And I’ve played for like a year

[red trail]

they were

[vestal wigeon]

That's cuz there was a list of places they spawned lmao, it wasn't random

If u just checked the spots with a route u would definitely run into something

[celest vault]

Still, I feel like when 10 of them are called a game its a bit much

[low owl]

probably because if you got a supply drop before the update and you could pvp you would automatically win the game because everyone else would have chain, leather and sometimes diamond

[celest vault]

This happened to me lol, someone called it in the sewers, so I got to take the loot and run

[blazing hemlock]

lol

[alpine jewel]

That’s a gg moment

[celest vault]

Yeah but now everyone is stacked, but I see why they were added

maybe they should make flares less common?

[blazing hemlock]

definitely

[alpine jewel]

Yay, if everyone is stacked I actually get to play the game

[vestal wigeon]

Idk lol, if someone else got the supply drop, all I have to do is shoot em like once and it was fair game, twice and their armors mine

[red trail]

agree, i think there should be two types of supply crates, one that is the flare one and isn't as good but is still worth it, and the default ones

[celest vault]

this game makes me so mad

[alpine jewel]

Without getting offed at cornucopia in the first minute

[ebon plume]

No more no armour challenges :(

Well

It'll just require more skill :D

[alpine jewel]

And cobwebs

Lots of those

[bitter knot]

what if we played fortnite instead of this

[alpine jewel]

Ew no why

[celest vault]

Maybe switching the loot tables for supply drops now? Since they are more common?

[red trail]

then we would be brainless emo ppl...oh wait

[bitter knot]

good idea!!!

[alpine jewel]

You think ur slick

box what big brain paragraph have you been typing for so long

[odd flume]

For people who haven't been around for us doing "previews" before.

What happens is; we watch and discuss all the constructive feedback from the game, Discord, forums etc and follow up with what we call a "fast follow" update with rapid tweaks, generally within a day or so of the preview coming out.

We then continue to watch and see how those changes settle the game and react accordingly 🙂

[celest vault]

Imagine replying to your own post to make it seem like a cool idea, i cant but maybe.... you could?

[low owl]

some people said now sg doesnt require much skill but in my opinion (im lvl 13 btw and havent played much) the new update adds more chances to win a fight against someone really good

[celest vault]

Boomboxes are sooooooo good omg

[alpine jewel]

Facts

[celest vault]

Kinda

[bitter knot]

WHAT!!! i dont reply to my own messages

[alpine jewel]

Too good in fact

[celest vault]

They explode so quickly that they are incredibly useful

[red trail]

Definitely more strats

[celest vault]

Some are too good

[vestal wigeon]

Lol really? In SW I find boomboxes useless

[celest vault]

some are like dealable

[ebon plume]

Less chance for me to win against someone bad?

[celest vault]

Nah they are rare

[red trail]

new boomboxes

[alpine jewel]

Ok now I need to go actually play the update

[vestal wigeon]

I haven't tried em so I'm legit curious

[celest vault]

Blindness boomboxes

Like I just feel like being blinded mid battle is just odd and uneeded

Kb and dmg boomboxes are like the only ones that r useful

[low owl]

i would not call them rare

[alpine jewel]

See you guys once I have experience in the game

[red trail]

Cobweb boomboxes

[celest vault]

Fire boomboxes

[celest vault]

Don't worry they will change some things shortly after

[bitter knot]

boomboxes boomboxes

[red trail]

boxesboom

[vestal wigeon]

Lol yeah, rarity gets balanced a lot. For example when boomboxes were added to tw in the previews, they initially were dirt cheap

[devout oyster]

We will be increasing the rarity of a lot of the newly added items

[red trail]

GOODS

[devout oyster]

They were quite common as we wanted them to be tested 😄

[celest vault]

THANK YOU

[bitter knot]

they should add steel armour

[red trail]

erm

not sure if that's possible

[bitter knot]

YES!!!

[red trail]

and also like why

[celest vault]

I wonder why Hive hasn't updated the trello Bedrock public roadmap yet🤔 maybe because the update hasn't fully come out yet

[bitter knot]

i have an obsession with steel

its a problem

[red trail]

obv

[celest vault]

It's literally a preview

[devout oyster]

We've been focusing on looking at feedback and tweaking to be completely honest

We'll get to that stuff later 😄

[bitter knot]

the boomboxes suck its stealing from fortnite

[celest vault]

I cant wait for sg update

[bitter knot]

so are the campfires

they stole

cozy

[devout oyster]

[bitter knot]

camp

[celest vault]

No they didnt steel them

[devout oyster]

Campfires/similar items are in a looooot of games

[odd flume]

What's a fork knife?

[red trail]

that's what my friend said lol

[low owl]

so you are saying that boom boxes are a copy of grenades from fortnite

[devout oyster]

Take Minecraft Dungeons for example

[bitter knot]

YES!!!

[celest vault]

With how irrelevant fortnite is, if they can take something from fortnite and make it good im okay with it

[red trail]

the the diamond sword is a copy of the scar

[celest vault]

damn

[bitter knot]

wait a copy of handgrenades from call of duty modern warfare

[red trail]

i thought hive was orginal jeez

[low owl]

I can see a connection but there are many differences like the fact that they give different effects

[bitter knot]

grenades are mean

[hallow shadow]

It was a good update, but I wish there was new levels

[bitter knot]

NO

bad update

[celest vault]

No, they aren't copying anything from any game. Explosives were invented first in China, thousands of years ago, in the form of fireworks

[red trail]

Look at dis cause it important: https://forum.playhive.com/t/sg-preview-suggestion/33633

[alpine jewel]

ok trackers are op

[celest vault]

Yes

[bitter knot]

guys

what do the thermometers do

[celest vault]

Maybe too much actually

[red trail]

They are really good and helpful

[odd flume]

@bitter knot Lets ease on the memes a bit, your sarcasm is at least 500% right now

[red trail]

to easy to third party with em tho

lol

they do kinda look like thermometers imo

[odd flume]

Little mobile phones

[bitter knot]

finally someone who understands what irony is

[low owl]

i mean except from the balancing issues the new features themselves are pretty good

[red trail]

yes

that too

[alpine jewel]

yay i got killed by teamers, brb bois i gotta grab some usernames

[red trail]

Fun

[celest vault]

I just realized....... HIVE STOLE PVP FROM FORTNITE

[red trail]

yes

hive is so unoriginal smh

[reef stirrup]

i know, i not usually like this, just quite mad about the update in my opinion ruining it

[opal cargo]

I wounder why, there is no update preview to duos.

[sharp shard]

its a test ig

[opal cargo]

I know, but why would, they not have duos to? They have some parts related to duos in the patch notes.

[celest vault]

I just thought of something

[hallow shadow]

I think new levels should be introduced and also can there be a way to get the other npc costumes, bc some gamemode have multiple skins

[celest vault]

Crumbling cobblestone would be really good in SG

[blazing hemlock]

i think level 30 should reward the one it does currently

[red trail]

yeah

[blazing hemlock]

and level 50 reward the blue one

[celest vault]

Or as I call it, Crumblestone

[hallow shadow]

yeah

[bitter knot]

i am level 60

too cool for school

[red trail]

so many ppl don't know about it

[hallow shadow]

Im level 30, and have been there forever

[blazing hemlock]

im level 13 xD

[red trail]

so i use it to accidentally team grief my teamates

[hallow shadow]

Well I am max in almost every game

[celest vault]

Give me a sec, gonna try for the 5th time to create a forums acc

[blazing hemlock]

but i might try to grind now that its easier on mobile players

[hallow shadow]

and I like new levels

[vestal wigeon]

Quick question, and it might already have it idk, but if sg gets enough players will it get platform-based matchmaking?

[blazing hemlock]

there is already pbmm

since late jan

but it never really works cos low player count

[vestal wigeon]

Gotcha gotcha, thnx

[odd flume]

+300 players in a queue for it to work

[low owl]

oh so thats why i have been launching people

[blazing hemlock]

but now theres an update the player count might go up

to make pbmm better

[opaque bane]

I like the new update but I wouldn’t mind a classic Sg mode

[low owl]

last time i checked there were 500 players

[celest vault]

Theres more than 500, apparently it's not displaying correctly rn

[blazing hemlock]

i mean permanently

[odd flume]

Correct. It's not counting people in the preview mode properly atm, there are actually more than it shows

[devout oyster]

It’s also worth noting that we haven’t really advertised the update yet since it’s a preview, no server icon etc

[glad nimbus]

Will there be new levels

[celest vault]

It's not part of this update as far as I know, but there could be in the future

[glad nimbus]

That sucks

[devout oyster]

This update is primarily focused on gameplay

[stray stag]

So what your telling me is there is a high enough player count for old sg and this new update to coexist

[glad nimbus]

People have been lvl 30 for way to long

[devout oyster]

We’ll definitely add more levels in the future though 😄

[glad nimbus]

Ok

[nimble ermine]

Facts

[hallow shadow]

Thank you

[stray stag]

We like old SG, don't alienate your playerbase.

[nimble ermine]

No

[nimble ermine]

Amen

[hallow shadow]

actually there is more players

[blazing hemlock]

hns first please 😆

[alpine jewel]

ok if i were on switch my opinion would be otherwise, but rn on mobile fire destroys my framerate

[hallow shadow]

and it is different

[alpine jewel]

play normal.

[celest vault]

The variety of the boomboxes is awesome !

[blazing hemlock]

6 is a bit too many

i would yeet normal and poison

and nerf web and blind

[celest vault]

Makes fights a lot more interestint

G*

[alpine jewel]

so i played a few matches and i have a bit of insight
I haven't seen any real threat from blindness, web, or trackers except for once when i used a flare

i still suck with bows so thats fun

are cache cows on the tracker? because i havent seen any at all in my lifetime

i'd like it if sd's were spawned in the air as soon as the chat msg came up, and if thats the case, make it so for the tracker

all in all everything seems good on my end except for fire boombox

cause lag

also if there aren't already snowballs add those, i love those

ik its not just for me, my wording is a bit selfish, but they would be cool

maybe

also is chat like, dead.

[nimble ermine]

The new update is just horrible

They didn’t listen to anything that the player base asked for

[reef stirrup]

I want to give criticism on something, but i just cant say it without swearing so I won’t

[nimble ermine]

They genuinely can’t even listen to the community

[nimble ermine]

What, the entire update?

[reef stirrup]

Yes its dog turd

[tranquil gorge]

this update is ..

[nimble ermine]

Couldn’t have said it better myself

If they don’t revamp the update after all of this criticism I’m never playing on the hive again

[blazing hemlock]

the update is good c:

[tranquil gorge]

not for being in beta for 2 years

[blazing hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-run-away-bird-budgie-explode-gif-4464825

[nimble ermine]

The fact that this is what they came up with

[celest vault]

This just made my day

[blazing hemlock]

c:

[nimble ermine]

It genuinely seems like they started working on it 2 weeks ago and just said “let’s make it like sw and tw with no void”

[odd flume]

It would be helpful if you can turn vague statements into notes that we can read. That way it can help us.

[odd flume]

The only thing taken from a current game was boom boxes

[celest vault]

@odd flume and player trackers, but I think most of the other things are nice

but then again, the player trackers are intresting as well

[nimble ermine]

I think that you guys upset the entire player base by coming out with an update after 2 years with features that nobody ever asked for. I understand you want to draw more players to sg but attempting to do so by changing the game this drastically is just horrendous. I just feel like the devs tried to stuff too much new content in when one of the main things people love about sg is the simplicity

[blazing hemlock]

since when was 2 years equal to just over 1 year??

they also have to focus on other games

[odd flume]

We are very aware it's not "classic SG". And I know some of you won't like to hear this, but that's not what we are aiming for.

Matt said the below, earlier:
We'll try and take everyones feedback on board and balance it, but if you want a more vanilla SG then pretty much every other bedrock server has it.

We try to innovate and provide the best games for the community. SG was struggling for players and we hope new updates, maps and more attention will help grow the community you clearly love.

[blazing hemlock]

hive has 7 minigames, not just one.

[nimble ermine]

I totally get that

[blazing hemlock]

each player will have their own favourite game

and it makes sense to put more resources and time into more played games

[celest vault]

Next on The Hive: Build Battle battle royale, now with boomboxes

[nimble ermine]

It’s clear that you are trying to draw in more players and I think that it’s a good thing because the community was dying. I just think that you should’ve listened to some of the things that people who play sg every day wanted. I just think it’s somewhat unfair to the current playerbase

[nimble ermine]

Ahhahahahah

[stray stag]

Telling lifetime Hive players to switch to a different server when you change a gamemode drastically is a toxic way to tell people that they're not worth the time or effort.

[nimble ermine]

Yeah

[devout oyster]

We very much have, we spent a long time looking at community submitted suggestions, and several of them have been implemented

[celest vault]

I think that the new update is alright, but I feel like the custom models need to not be implemented as much. Perhaps the new boomboxes do make for new and interesting gameplay, but maybe they need to not be used in so many new games

[nimble ermine]

I haven’t once heard a sg player ask for boomboxes to be implemented into the game, let alone 6

[odd flume]

A big point to notice as well is it's not just who posts here in the community, we have over 1 million unique people join the server every-single-day! 4+million unique each month

It's easy to read comments here and think that "everyone" agrees, but there is so much in between

[celest vault]

But I also do think the different kinds of boomboxes in this update are cool, don't get me wrong

[zinc helm]

a lot of people asked sadly, which just ruins sg

[stray stag]

I think the real people that care about the game join the official discord and spread their thoughts about TheHive. It really seems like your adding updates nobody wanted, and telling the people who don't like it to suck it up and leave the server.

[zinc helm]

if i wanted boom box spam id play sky wars

[celest vault]

I hope the new stats will also be shown in the summury at the end or each sg game

[nimble ermine]

I didn’t know that. Sorry I missed that. I just play with people who play it a lot and have never heard them say it before

[celest vault]

Coming soon: Hide and seek, boombox edition (This is a joke, not to be taken seriously)

[devout oyster]

With all due respect, if that truly was the case we would have rolled out the update without a preview mode and not even considered feedback

[odd flume]

What new stats were you thinking of

[nimble ermine]

Fr

[celest vault]

@odd flume I admire the creativity in the new boomboxes, though :D The cobweb one is a pretty neat concept

[nimble ermine]

Is bow accuracy currently one

[stray stag]

Boomboxes work in SW because of how SW on TheHive operates, poorly, but operates.
We don't need the Boomboxes being a plague on the rest of the games.

[celest vault]

I think these stats

I accidently pinged an owner

Rip

[umbral oak]

Add enchanting into the game

[odd flume]

We've played around with this idea / or some way of enchanting a weapon. Maybe it's something we can do one day

[umbral oak]

Ok thanks

[white pier]

How is the new cow model, b0xx3r?

[stray stag]

Getting ignored by staff after being told they want criticism, omegalul

[celest vault]

I feel like people who are being so toxic about these updates can play SG on another server. I understand that some may not appreciate these boomboxes, but they are a cool addition, and if you can't accept that this is a development phase that they are looking for feedback on, and it might not stay on the hive if people don't like it, then you should stop and play SG on another server

Alright, I think I have a system to fix arrows. Fully charged, they should do the regular arrow damage. If you hit someone from 12 blocks away, it does 1.1% damage. The further you are away from the target, the more damage it should do

Without boomboxes its just a running game so please

Honestly, people are whining like a bunch of babies

[umbral oak]

Will there ever be trios or squads in sg

[white pier]

How is the new cow model??

[stray stag]

You're the same problem as the mods. Its counterintuitive to tell players to leave the server because of an update that has features that aren't neccesary.

[stray stag]

Trios are on their way

[blazing hemlock]

none of the hive servers hate each other

[umbral oak]

Pog

[jagged zinc]

if you do add enchanting you'll make sure it's not overpowered like the enchants in skywars right?

[blazing hemlock]

sw isnt op

[stray stag]

Yeah, never said that

[jagged zinc]

it was a while ago...it's fixed now though

[celest vault]

I'm just saying, this could get removed, just don't play if you are going to be toxic about it anyways

[stray stag]

May as well not play if they don't add a classic sg mode as well.

[celest vault]

Alright, I think I have a system to fix arrows. Fully charged, they should do the regular arrow damage. If you hit someone from 12 blocks away, it does 1.1% damage. The further you are away from the target, the more damage it should do (copy pasted because I don't think anyone noticed it)

[devout oyster]

We won’t be adding a classic SG mode

[white pier]

I wonder if they are going to add more levels to get the gravestones 🤔

[solid badge]

Lewis what do you think about chest refills

[stray stag]

You're shooting yourself in the foot, then.

[devout oyster]

We will definitely be adding more levels in the future 😄

[white pier]

Yay

[mental linden]

epic

[nimble ermine]

Why not

[blazing hemlock]

will the gravestones be unlockable at levels below level 30

[jagged zinc]

for the max lvl costume in SG is it gonna stay lvl 30 to get the costume or be max lvl from the increased levels?

[blazing hemlock]

or will it only be above

[celest vault]

Wassup guys

[devout oyster]

SG sadly doesn’t have the player count to support adding a classic mode

[celest vault]

Its WWIII?

[blazing hemlock]

*yet

[celest vault]

And I'm fine with that! Keep expirementing with the features, and the playerbase will help everyone find a happy medium where it isn't too crazy.

[stray stag]

And adding this update will magically increase it?

[odd flume]

• we have some new maps coming 😄

We just wanted to make sure feedback was about the update, rather than new maps

[celest vault]

Yay new maps :D

[white pier]

Lewis, can u send here a image of new Cow Model? I cant enter The Hive rn. Its ok if u cant

[solid cove]

New maps for what

[blazing hemlock]

sg

[devout oyster]

I’m not at my computer either right now, sorry!

[celest vault]

Release the update please

[solid cove]

Oh sweet

[idle sage]

i think that the vanilla aspect was what made it fun
if you had skill you could succeed
there wasnt much introduction needed for new players as it was basic and a way for new players just that; new players
not having to deal with the falling of skywars and bridging with a bunch of ores that arent introduced well
it was a basic and simplistic game that could go either way

with this new update it completely changes the vibe
a new player now has to consider:
6 different boom boxes
flares for drops they dont know about
tps to places they havent seen
not even mentioning how the combat works on the server

there are now too many things to think about and messes up what survival games was
you could become incredibly skilled or just be casual and have the same experience
now with rng in the way of anything it didn't solve any problems like bows being overpowered
having trackers solve the problem of sg being a walking sim but now makes it impossible to have any downtime
i understand that it was bland and needed work but this is not how it should be approached
too many things were changed and the whole point of sg seems lost

[celest vault]

That'll be cool

[blazing hemlock]

oh god an essay

[odd flume]

SG but technically all games 😄

[celest vault]

Ok

[nimble ermine]

Amen amen amen

[white pier]

No problem! Ty anyway!

[celest vault]

Release upsatz

[finite ridge]

Will there be trios/squads for sg

[white pier]

Oh.. sorry about the ping

[devout oyster]

Nah

[umbral oak]

Bruh moment

[white pier]

Survival Games Mega

[finite ridge]

Ok thanks

[blazing hemlock]

O.o

[jagged zinc]

this is precisely what it is

SG is more complex now and a new player isn't gonna know what to do...thus why a classic sg mode would be good

[stray stag]

Yeah, what's good about current SG is that it's self explanatory. This whole update will SkyWars everything, and make everything way more complicated.

[devout oyster]

All games have a learning curve

[celest vault]

Everyone needs to take a breath and think about this: this is a development phase. It's nothing to get worked up about! We could change it,the Hive team is literally asking for feedback!

[devout oyster]

It’s the same with literally any game

[finite ridge]

Also why not ?

[odd flume]

It's OK to die in a game and remember how you did, learn and not have it happen in the next game

[celest vault]

Cut the Hive team some slack, they're just trying to do something new!

[nimble ermine]

People are getting worked up about it and giving feedback in hope of them listening and revamping the update

[devout oyster]

And we are very much taking feedback onboard

Just keep it constructive 😄

[nimble ermine]

We’re allowed to give criticism to the developers of a game we play a lot

[odd flume]

An update based on feedback is already literally getting worked on 🙂

It's how we always do preview builds

[white pier]

I liked the new "call a drop" feature, its just amazing!

Please, dont remove it

[blazing hemlock]

but a bit too common imo

[nimble ermine]

Calling it horrible and leaving it at that isn’t going to do anything which I agree we shouldn’t do, but asking to change or remove things is perfectly fine

[jagged zinc]

then there are always those competitive players that want a version of the game that's more skill based and less balanced...the new update is terrible for sweats..

[celest vault]

I just don't get why the new update is recieving such negative feedback. 1. Its a preview, like a beta. Not the final thing. 2. This is what Hive SG was originally intended to be, and now it is finally finished. 3. The Hive team have been working MONTHS on this, they didn't work this hard just to be yelled at

[nimble ermine]

I like this feature a lot, I agree it should be more rare, but I like it!

[celest vault]

Yes, but not too harshly

[inner solar]

Ye maybe should be only in tier 2’s

[odd flume]

It's easy to notice a vocal minority, many thousands are just playing right now having fun

[white pier]

Wait a second

Survival Games will officially leave Beta?

[devout oyster]

That’s the plan

[azure lake]

sick pfp boxxer :D

[odd flume]

The meme will finally die 😄

[white pier]

Oh wow! Thats sad and awesome lol!

[odd flume]

We called the first document "Getting SG out of Beta" when we first gathered to discuss it

😂

[white pier]

Lol

Its good to see that you guys have fun working on the Hive!

[odd flume]

So many of our paid team were just former players who enjoyed it so much they stuck around

[blazing hemlock]

lol

good to see a massive company full of memers

[jagged zinc]

it's more balanced and more complex

I played 15 rounds earlier and already know how much of the update i hate...some things are nice but a lot of it is just annoying (like the cobweb and blindness boom boxes 🙄 )

I'm hoping between the feedback everyone has left it makes the update good so it's not as bad as it is now...

[blazing hemlock]

think back to the tw preview, if you were around

[celest vault]

I'm going to do some tests on SG and take a look

[blazing hemlock]

at first they completely removed dia armour and raised some prices astronomically

[odd flume]

I can't give you the full list of upcoming changes yet (since it's not locked in) but I can confirm boom box rarity will be decreased

[idle sage]

to all that want constructive criticism, please read what i said and respond dont ignore because it's long

[zinc helm]

ok this just ruined the game so much

[blazing hemlock]

after a few days they released a second version, taking into account the communities feedback

[zinc helm]

not even fun anymore

death match is literally who can spam the most boom boxes

[blazing hemlock]

eventually, the update will be fun for most of the community

[stray stag]

I honestly feel ignored. TheHive team knows their main playerbase is under thirteen year olds, so they don't have to listen to the criticism of others.
The top players of SG complain about this update constantly, and you refuse to even listen to them.

[inner solar]

Ye deathmatch with boomboxes is boring

[odd flume]

I'd be interested in your updated thoughts after our first patch, since I notice parts of what you said is getting addressed in the update (when it comes out, no set time)

[blazing hemlock]

the thing is, they are listening

[white pier]

Safezone when? 👀 👀

Jkjk

[blazing hemlock]

can you not read? /s

[nimble ermine]

Yep

[odd flume]

Am I shadow muted? There is a post of me looking forward to feedback right above these messages

[jagged zinc]

well there's a plus at least

i wasn't able to go 1 game out of the 15 games i played without blindness or cobweb because lots of people just throw boom boxes and run

[zinc helm]

they made is SO COMPLICATED it was nice when it was simple :( all it really needed was tracking compasses

[celest vault]

calling in a supply crate def should be rarer, 5 people have called one 3 mins into the game

[devout oyster]

We will be making flares rarer 🙂

[odd flume]

Agreed and getting addressed in the first update

[celest vault]

Ok, thanks :D

[zinc helm]

if it stays like this im going to quit sg. No joke

[jagged zinc]

yeah

all SG needed was literally 4 things

• bug fixes
• new maps
  -tracking compasses
• more lvls/unlocks

[nimble ermine]

Trios, Squads, more levels and content, maps, and bug fixes

[white pier]

I think it can be like cows, like have just 4 at the map!

[celest vault]

I like the opening animation for the drop crates, nicely done

[nimble ermine]

I think a lot of players are going to migrate to other servers

[white pier]

Yee agree

[odd flume]

You can also jump on top of opened crates now

[jagged zinc]

same...after reaching the new max lvl ofc since i love having a so many unlocks it's hard to find a specific one in the unlocks list LOL

[mental linden]

there's a search bar

[white pier]

B0xx3r, can u send here a picture of the new cow? Its ok if not

[craggy ermine]

The propeller animation on the helicopter was good

[odd flume]

I don't have one on my PC

[devout oyster]

Use #702236975524085961 please 😄

[white pier]

Oooh, its okay! Ty anyways!

[blazing hemlock]

are you gonna be changing this server's banner

[jagged zinc]

also the deathmatch arena is kinda boring when you see it over and over again

is there gonna be some way to have multiple deathmatch arenas (like randomized from a few different arenas)?

[blazing hemlock]

the cow is out of date

[white pier]

Wait a second!!!

[blazing hemlock]

this would be cool c:

[celest vault]

I like the new boombox colors

[white pier]

Hive Discord Banner Cow will change too????

[odd flume]

It's entirely possible, I'd suggest it on the forums and get a discussion going (if there isn't already one)

[mental linden]

found a bug regarding supply drops & cows

[celest vault]

(Cornicopia)

[craggy ermine]

Continue

[mental linden]

they appear invisible

[craggy ermine]

..

Idk that might be a spectator thing

[odd flume]

What version are you on?

[white pier]

What is Cornicopia???

[devout oyster]

The middle of the map with the chests

[mental linden]

1.16.201

[white pier]

Ooh

Im a such a noob at Sg huh?

[blazing hemlock]

nah

you've probably just never read the hunger games

or seen it

[celest vault]

Alright, I think I have a system to fix arrows. Fully charged, they should do the regular arrow damage. If you hit someone from 12 blocks away, it does 1.1% damage. The further you are away from the target, the more damage it should do.

@odd flume The helicopter in the center of Flashpoint has its propellers moving? That's awesome

[white pier]

I always called the middle of the map as....
the middle of the map

I never knowed that was called Cornitopia

[devout oyster]

I mean you’re not wrong haha

[opaque bane]

Add more deathmatch maps

[celest vault]

yeah, that's what its called in the hunger games

so I just call it that

[astral tiger]

Essay on boomboxes:

Standard boombox:

Haven't gotten a lot of use out of this one, except for knocking people who sneak under their deathwatch spawn into the void because of the crazy amount of knockback it gives. For the amount of times when it's actually useful I don't see a lot of reason for it being in the game

Fire boombox:

this one could be fine as is, just needs to be less common but that's already going to happen. Otherwise I'd like to potentially see it merged into another boombox, suggestion at the end

Cobweb boombox:

Feel like it's good, can be used to slow people down

Frozen boombox:

Really annoying for PvP, and sort of acts like the cobweb boombox, so I'd honestly like to see this one removed

Poison boombox:

Can't say anything about this, as it's so ridiculously rare I didn't find nor see anyone use them in some 30 games, or is it just me.

Blindness boombox:

Really difficult to use, also quite annoying to get hit by whenever it does happen. Feels kinda useless still though

The amount of different items in your inventory can just get really messy, so I'd like to see the amount of boomboxes existing brought down to just two or three. One possible fix thingy I'd have for the boomboxes:

Only have two boomboxes, these being;

1. the cobweb boombox, or some hybrid between it and the frozen boombox

2. a merger of the regular and fire boombox into something that can set players on fire as well as dealing some knockback + eventually a very slight amount of direct damage

Additionally, it would be cool if the new "boomboxes" became different items, so it's actually sort of clear from just looking at your inventory what kinda boombox you have

[devout oyster]

Be sure to suggest that on the forums @celest vault 🙂

[white pier]

Oh god

[night sail]

Rali ;o

[astral tiger]

cornitopia sounds cool

Yeah entire essay I know

[craggy ermine]

I have a clip of the new teleporters, I went into a basement in sg4, and zWhxtDoUWxnt came thru it and I screamed so loud @night sail

Lol

[celest vault]

Forums is legitimately broken for me

[night sail]

And you killed me

[opaque bane]

Cornitopia

[craggy ermine]

Sorry

Lol

[opaque bane]

Who’s fortnitesocks

[craggy ermine]

Good player

[opaque bane]

Sort of

[craggy ermine]

Me and epicarcher were in vc

[celest vault]

Apparently, because I used a different email for my forums than my Xbox acc, it just won't work

[craggy ermine]

He said he was rly good

[opaque bane]

He’s annoying

But good

[white pier]

Okay I can play it now!

Lets go!

[opaque bane]

I would like: more deathmatch maps, and a classic Sg game mode

[celest vault]

I didnt know that mushrooms drop mushroom stew sometimes!

Thats so cool :D

[craggy ermine]

There is a classic sg mode

[astral tiger]

o didn't know that either

[craggy ermine]

It's just

[opaque bane]

Rn there is

[craggy ermine]

The normal one

[opaque bane]

Not in the future

[celest vault]

Sg sucks now

[craggy ermine]

Nah

[opaque bane]

I like it

[astral tiger]

in the future there'll only be one SG gamemode though, if you don't count solos and duos

[celest vault]

I don’t like all the tnt that’s it

[opaque bane]

bruh whyy

[celest vault]

I like the flare animation too :D cool

[night sail]

Please give feedback about the preview instead of saying it's just bad

[celest vault]

Please, I've had this argument 4 times already today, just please don't say it's bad

[opaque bane]

if there classic Sg lb players would be more satisfied

[celest vault]

Don’t ping me pls

[opaque bane]

Lol he’s turning into I like beans

[devout oyster]

Sadly we can’t add a classic mode, SG just doesn’t have the player count for it

[opaque bane]

Well it’s decided then

[fluid kernel]

People don’t like change, they’ll get used to it, personally I like the potential these changes might have on the meta

[craggy ermine]

Boomboxes are too frequent, arrows are way too ez to get from cornacopia, when you use the flares, the supply crates should have a chance of not actually spawning

[celest vault]

Splodger I have a picture of u and me in the hub and I hung it up in my room

[jagged zinc]

suggested a way to have multiple deathmatch arenas on the forums...
https://forum.playhive.com/t/different-deathmatch-arenas/33649

[craggy ermine]

Cringe

[celest vault]

Maybe Deathmatch arenas could be different according to their maps?

[celest vault]

Fax

[fluid kernel]

Just randomize different ones, no reason to have to vote for one

[celest vault]

👀

[jagged zinc]

it's already been said the boom boxes are gonna be less frequent when the actual update is released

[celest vault]

Hi

[blazing hemlock]

this may push the update back a few weeks, but i like the idea c:

[jagged zinc]

ooo that would be a good idea too

[devout oyster]

We’ll be reducing the number of arrows and boomboxes in the first balancing patch

[celest vault]

Like maybe a military base for flashpoint or a run down sports arena for SG4?

[blazing hemlock]

ye

[craggy ermine]

I also noticed there is no damage indicator on supply drops when you shoot them down? Is this a bug or an implement

[blazing hemlock]

have yall seen an image of the new map

[celest vault]

It would be cool if there was a Swarms chat on Discord

[blazing hemlock]

ive seen damage indicators...

[devout oyster]

Sounds like a bug, I’ll look into that

[blazing hemlock]

i saw it today testing the update

[craggy ermine]

Idk maybe I'm on the wrong version

[celest vault]

Lol I remember the first time I was crushed by a supply crate

[craggy ermine]

I play on 1.16.4.100 or smthn

[astral tiger]

didn't see damage indicators on supply drops myself

[celest vault]

I was so confused

[blazing hemlock]

same lmao

i was like

wut

and then died of laughter

[astral tiger]

haha someone told me you could get crushed by them so I've never been so myself

[blazing hemlock]

oof

[celest vault]

Was being crushed by a supply crate always a thing, because around 7 months ago I don't remember it being a thing

[wraith forge]

Anyone else dislike the new update???!?!?

[blazing hemlock]

its fun u should try it some time

[jagged zinc]

edited the forum suggestion (also put "idea from PogChamp1407 in the hive discord server")

[blazing hemlock]

no

[astral tiger]

almost got crushed today while trying to figure out what the call on a supply crate item on the ground was though

[craggy ermine]

I host sg Tournaments and other Tournaments every weekends, and a few weeks ago in sg, one of the players got crushed by the supply crate 😂

[night sail]

I killed a player with snowball them underneath the supply drop lol

[jagged zinc]

LOL

[blazing hemlock]

its perfectly fine for a preview

[astral tiger]

it's always been possible

[devout oyster]

Please be specific 🙂

[craggy ermine]

I cobwebbed someone under one and shot it down lol

[blazing hemlock]

oof

[devout oyster]

Ouch!

Quite the trap

[blazing hemlock]

skwish

[craggy ermine]

Some things need to be changed but it's good otherwise

[celest vault]

Release the update plzzzz

[night sail]

Supply drop best weapon

[celest vault]

@devout oyster Nice sfx for the tracker

[night sail]

Ngl

[celest vault]

Add compass

[wraith forge]

Idk about the boomboxes, maybe if they were more rare

[celest vault]

Zbiii

[craggy ermine]

Flares are OP

[blazing hemlock]

nah the crane op