🕵・murder-mystery

[mild shoal]

nahh, I've been slowing down on mm. I have a particularly broken mouse, new one getting shipped out Thursday. but it's not as fun as it used to be

almost half way through pres 5 tho

[trim salmon]

I’ve been slacking too :/ I haven’t leveled up in like 2 weeks

[mild shoal]

he missed a non earlier on when I was playin

[mild shoal]

yea, this game is not as it used to be

and I have a feeling if the mm update isn't as good as we think it's gonna be the game will just die out

[topaz cove]

hes fr so bad considering he tools 😭

[urban atlas]

@lapis sigil howd you like that shot

[trim salmon]

Who?

[mild shoal]

l eu1q

he has many alts, openly admitted to tooling cause it's entertaining for him

[trim salmon]

Tooling is pretty fun

I’ve heard

[mild shoal]

LOL

ofc you'd say that

[topaz cove]

what all alts does he have?

[mild shoal]

one already got banned, he already has this one and I'm sure he has many more

[topaz cove]

hes so pathetic bro 😭

[lapis sigil]

never said you used esp i never see you play like that

[mild shoal]

with the way you worded it, it could've been either way

[lapis sigil]

i would love to see how the out come wouldve been if i hit you cuz if i did you wouldve been like you only got me becuase im tooling lmao you and confix are jokes

[lapis sigil]

nah dont get me wrong ive see you in lobby but i mostly q cuz ur always in partys dont really stick around

[lapis sigil]

why wouldnt i admit to something that the whole server of hive knows?

[mild shoal]

i only typically party with my twin, on occasion do I play with others

[lapis sigil]

nice entertain con and the other guy cya

[trim salmon]

Is this beef?

[dusty pebble]

Yes

[mild shoal]

i mean, I'm not surprised you don't hide it. you see how far this account got before getting banned LOL

[urban atlas]

NO dont leave papi

[dusty pebble]

Grass fed beef 😈

Calm down bro

[lapis sigil]

idk just good at my craft

[lapis sigil]

no they just want to start stuff with me and wanting a reactiong and when i leave is when they start to talk

[lapis sigil]

i still feel harassed i would like to get this guy looked into.

[urban atlas]

yeah sur ebud

[trim salmon]

Why don’t u just block him then?

[serene marsh]

he’s so based

[dusty pebble]

OR join them 😈

[lapis sigil]

smart idea bud

[mild shoal]

ur wild

[lapis sigil]

idek why asher trying to join em when im cool with emm

[dusty pebble]

🍎 hug the apple BUD

[left raptor]

Apple 🫂

[dusty pebble]

🫂 hello BUDDY

[mild shoal]

no?

[dusty pebble]

Mmmm TOO LATE

🫂

[trim salmon]

Apples are mid fruit

[mild shoal]

yea

[dusty pebble]

And yet they are the face of the earth!

[mild shoal]

i wouldn't go that far to say that

[dusty pebble]

Is that so

[mild shoal]

mhm

[dusty pebble]

Apples are the most popular second best selling fruit world WIDE

[trim salmon]

Pears are better

🍐

[mild shoal]

yeah no, between pears or apples I'm choosing apples

sorry calamari

[trim salmon]

😠

[dusty pebble]

Well tbh the green pears when ripe of so JUICY

But then apple pie

[trim salmon]

Apple juice is not good actually

[mild shoal]

if you're gonna bring up recipes with apples, sure I would say apples are #1. but apples alone? i don't think so

[mild shoal]

well said

[trim salmon]

Pear juice is on top

[dusty pebble]

[mild shoal]

also no

take your pear juice and go back to terraria

[left raptor]

Apple pie is a crime

[dusty pebble]

Omg is everyone against apples 😭

[trim salmon]

Apple pie is good tho

[trim salmon]

Yes

[mild shoal]

nah, I'm just against apples alone

[left raptor]

I love apples 🥲 just not baked

[mild shoal]

and apple juice

[dusty pebble]

What did the apple do to yall

[left raptor]

Oh yeah apple juice sucks

Orange juice is so good

[trim salmon]

FR

[mild shoal]

im not a fan of the apple, but if you mix it with stuff then it becomes good

pears on the other hand?

no no, they have no saving grace

[mild shoal]

well said

[trim salmon]

How rude

[left raptor]

Pears are like scratchy apples

Strongly dislike em

[dusty pebble]

Yo frozen Grapes in the summer

[left raptor]

Now mangos 🥲🥹

[trim salmon]

Pear hate is intolerable

[serene marsh]

yeah you’re kinda in enemy territory

[mild shoal]

what kinda fruit do you like

let us hear

[mild shoal]

meh

[trim salmon]

Mangoes are great too

[mild shoal]

I don't enjoy mangoes that much, maybe I'm just a fruit hater

they're still not as bad as pears tho

[left raptor]

Mhm I eat a bowl of mango every day- fav fruit

[dusty pebble]

Thats IT! IM sending 20k apples to everyone here! This is war!

[trim salmon]

L takes

[left raptor]

Besides watermelon Oml so good

[serene marsh]

watermelon and raspberries

[mild shoal]

i mean, if you gonna send some free apples this way may they be red?

[serene marsh]

oranges and pineapple are also pretty good

[mild shoal]

yeah no, you got some good taste

yeah

yk what you're talking about

[trim salmon]

Ew watermelon

The texture is so gross

[mild shoal]

coming from a pear lover

[serene marsh]

said no one ever

[empty elk]

MM takes so long to max out

[dusty pebble]

Cal I swear next thing ur gonna say is you dont like bananas

[left raptor]

Exactly

[dusty pebble]

No!

[mild shoal]

Bananas are great

[trim salmon]

Bananas are soooo mid

[left raptor]

Oop-

[mild shoal]

riddle

[dusty pebble]

UR MID!!

[left raptor]

Hive didnt like my hate against bananas

[mild shoal]

yeah

[trim salmon]

😮

[mild shoal]

😭

[dusty pebble]

Im sorry 😞

[mild shoal]

nah don't apologize to the pear lover

[left raptor]

Bananas are disgusting fr

[dusty pebble]

Okay im outta here

This is rage bait!

[mild shoal]

yeah

[left raptor]

It’s the truth 😭😔

[mild shoal]

get outta here mango lover

[trim salmon]

All of y’all are rage baiting! 😠

[mild shoal]

maybe so

[left raptor]

Yk what ima go make a mango bowl rn just for that

[trim salmon]

Mangos are good 😔

[left raptor]

It may be 11 pm but who cares

[mild shoal]

do I dare share the other unholy food cravings you had before?

[left raptor]

Oh no

[mild shoal]

maybe on a good day

[left raptor]

Dont do it

[trim salmon]

Anything but talking about mm in this server

[mild shoal]

um

mm is mid

[left raptor]

Mm stand for magnificent mangos

[trim salmon]

Like bananas

[left raptor]

[mild shoal]

i mean, they not as bad as pears

[trim salmon]

U make me angry 😡

[mild shoal]

i just speak my opinion

but if that makes you angry, then so be it

[thorny patrol]

Do it

[trim salmon]

And I’m speaking facts

[dusty pebble]

I've been thinking and yall should hear me out

[mild shoal]

would be an opinion

[dusty pebble]

Apple pizza!

[left raptor]

ZERO NO PLEASE NO

[mild shoal]

yeah no go back to leaving (jk)

[left raptor]

zip both of yalls mouths rn

[mild shoal]

horrid idea tho, sounds like a riddle food craving

[dusty pebble]

😭

[trim salmon]

Pizza is bad

[dusty pebble]

Ur BAD!!

[left raptor]

Hey I would so be down to try this

[mild shoal]

apples only go so well with certain things

[dusty pebble]

Okay okay a food we all SHOULD hate is definitely

[trim salmon]

Like pie

[dusty pebble]

Olives

[mild shoal]

olives go much better on a pizza than apples

[trim salmon]

Based

[left raptor]

Nope Nuh uh i love olives

So good 🥲

[dusty pebble]

Rlly!?

Cmon man

[trim salmon]

Squash

[dusty pebble]

I want to throw up when I even taste one

[mild shoal]

i haven't had squash

so until I get a taste

I can't say nun

[dusty pebble]

Bro i eat that every day its not that bad

[left raptor]

I love em so much but I hardly ever eat em cause my family hates em smh

[left raptor]

What?!

[dusty pebble]

Dw my mom likes the green olives

[mild shoal]

I live under a rock, didn't you know?

[trim salmon]

What’s a rock?

[left raptor]

THESE ARE SO GOOD

[dusty pebble]

Well a food we can all agree with awesome

Corn 🌽

[trim salmon]

Yea

[mild shoal]

yeah

[mild shoal]

a beautiful object

[left raptor]

🎶It’s corn a big lump with knobs it has the juice it has the juice🎶

[trim salmon]

What

[left raptor]

Someone get the reference? Hopefully

[mild shoal]

don't tell me you don't know

[left raptor]

Dang 😭

[dusty pebble]

Bro have yall tried corn on the cob slathered with mayonnaise, cotija cheese, chili powder, and lime.?

[trim salmon]

I don’t know

[mild shoal]

i saw mayonnaise and said no to this immediately

[left raptor]

Erm cant say I have

[mild shoal]

yeah maybe you live under a rock

[dusty pebble]

Try it bro!!

[trim salmon]

Mayo is gross

[left raptor]

Mayo is so good 🥲

[dusty pebble]

Its just eggs!

[left raptor]

Like on a burger 🔥

[mild shoal]

mayo is nasty

[trim salmon]

Everyone here except me has L takes

[dusty pebble]

We'll dont put to much of it!

[mild shoal]

even with very little

or too much, or even mid amount it's still nasty

[dusty pebble]

Imma squeeze you

[left raptor]

Fr people always put way to much

[dusty pebble]

You said bananas are bad!

[mild shoal]

the only good thing I'd see mayo ever used for is deviled eggs or anything in that nature

[trim salmon]

Idk what those are

[dusty pebble]

Try it

[left raptor]

Everyone here except riddle has L takes*

[dusty pebble]

Wait have yall tried tacos al pastor?

[mild shoal]

um, boiled eggs, remove shell, split them open, take the yolk out put in a bowl with a mix of ingredients, and put back into the half egg

[left raptor]

Hahah typos

[trim salmon]

I go now

Bye bye

[dusty pebble]

Oh no no no

[left raptor]

So good

[dusty pebble]

You stay here forever

[mild shoal]

your first food craving that was ever shared definitely an L take

[dusty pebble]

🫂 gotcha!

[mild shoal]

ciao calamari

[left raptor]

Erm actually my first take was peanut butter and yogurt

Which is fire btw

[mild shoal]

so share the other one then

[dusty pebble]

Well thats good

[mild shoal]

share it with the community

[left raptor]

Memory problems I have

[mild shoal]

right right

[dusty pebble]

Um ice cream with eggs?

Nah jk

[left raptor]

Uhm

[dusty pebble]

KIDDING

[mild shoal]

that's something she would eat fa

[left raptor]

So thats weird :S

[dusty pebble]

Wait what about mole?

[left raptor]

Leave me and my weird food cravings alone 😔

[dusty pebble]

Like Mexican chocolate with chicken and rice

Its rlly good

[mild shoal]

till the day we are no longer friends will be the day your weird food cravings will be left alone

[left raptor]

Dang it 😔

[dusty pebble]

One day I ate cereal with salt and milk bc I wanted to.eat it

And I had a huge headache

[mild shoal]

still not as bad as her take

[dusty pebble]

What she say?

[mild shoal]

its probably not the best I share it

[left raptor]

This is how all the food cravings start fr fr

[mild shoal]

i rather not make a public enemy

con might tho

[dusty pebble]

Tell me!!!

[left raptor]

Good choice

[urban atlas]

@charred elbow i said nice clips not what maq said lol

[dusty pebble]

Pls 🙏

[dusty pebble]

Wait are you girl?

[mild shoal]

nvm I thought con was gonna rat her out

[left raptor]

Yes I think

😄

[mild shoal]

Nah I thought it was a riddle

[dusty pebble]

Bruh I thought you were a dude all this time 😭

[mild shoal]

a mystery

[mild shoal]

wicked work

[left raptor]

Your the 4th person to say this-

… 😭😭

[dusty pebble]

Well now that I know the truth imma call you goku from now on

Okay goku

[mild shoal]

😭?

[left raptor]

goku?!!

[dusty pebble]

Ya

Now go super sayan

[left raptor]

Im still amazed people think im a dude

[dusty pebble]

Next thing yall gonna tell me is @mild shoal is girl

[mild shoal]

you didn't know?

[left raptor]

Oml do I act like one 😭 oh heck nah now yall are scaring me

[dusty pebble]

Bro

😭

[left raptor]

Sis*

[dusty pebble]

Mr clean

[mild shoal]

nah, I'm a guy LOL

[dusty pebble]

Thats ur new name

[dusty pebble]

🫂 MMMM my favorite 😈

[mild shoal]

pause

[dusty pebble]

Play

[mild shoal]

pause x2

[dusty pebble]

Rewind

[left raptor]

Turn off

[mild shoal]

I'd rather go back to when you didn't say that so fine with me

[haughty plaza]

Turn on

[dusty pebble]

Imma hug you more

[left raptor]

Turns off but hides the remote so no one can turn it back on

Gg ez i win

[dusty pebble]

Tv buttons!

[mild shoal]

press the TV buttons gg

[haughty plaza]

Bruh I just got murderer on castle town

[dusty pebble]

Sometimes I wonder is it still me in my mind

[left raptor]

Erm btw tv buttons don’t exist

[mild shoal]

erm yes they do

[left raptor]

So real

[dusty pebble]

who am i....

[mild shoal]

an apple

[mild shoal]

hive didn't like thet

[dusty pebble]

Imma say smt weird to end off on this conversation

[left raptor]

Woah just woah

[mild shoal]

oh boy

[dusty pebble]

I want to nibble on your soul

[mild shoal]

ciao already

[left raptor]

I should delete that-

[mild shoal]

i got a screenshot too late

[left raptor]

there we go 😄

[mild shoal]

gg ez

[left raptor]

Don’t believe

[mild shoal]

pause, ciao

[left raptor]

Hungry?

[mild shoal]

check dms 🙂

[dusty pebble]

Dred it

Run from it

[left raptor]

I don’t wanna it’s to far

[dusty pebble]

The apple arrives all the same

And soon it will get you asher

[left raptor]

Will it get me 🥺

[dusty pebble]

So run away and hide, kiss your family or friends goodbye cause nothing not anyone will save you from apple

[mild shoal]

at least it ain't pears

[dusty pebble]

Oh that another thing

Hehehe

[mild shoal]

diabolical

[dusty pebble]

Boo

[dusty pebble]

🫂 you are fuzzy

[mild shoal]

ciao y'all, fun talk even tho nun of it was about mm

[dusty pebble]

🫂 ikr ty for the talk and you are awesome

[left raptor]

Goodnights- also ima get the last word in, mangos are goat bananas suck pears suck a little less and olives are tasty- by the time you’ve read this I will have already left so I win gg ez

[mild shoal]

ofc, you aswell

[mild shoal]

bad take

gg ez

[topaz cove]

hes lying he said nice tip

riley would agree

[left raptor]

fr i second this- I heard him

[charred elbow]

Ur good bro 😭

I died so I couldn’t respond

[topaz cove]

nah dont let him lie to u bro 😭

he said nice tip not nice clip

[urban atlas]

xd all good lol

[pseudo knoll]

Its okay ur my favorite tooler ❤️

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[mild shoal]

wsg shame

[mild shoal]

poor con

[mild shoal]

it's been two minutes since this, still no mm update

[frank dock]

Still no mm update

[topaz cove]

rip

[charred elbow]

Ah im good bro

Just dealing with targeters wtv makes them feel happy ig

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[mild shoal]

that's good to hear, and yeah sounds bout right. that or the murd just doesn't play the game

[spring otter]

I want to see your murder clip.

[charred elbow]

What clip

[dense rampart]

i’m alive

[pseudo knoll]

i'm alive

[charred elbow]

@urban atlas might just download esp after that one

[urban atlas]

lol mb bro i was in 3rd person and im laggy xd

[urban atlas]

extremely stressful clip right here (sorry iwqnn)

[fervent ginkgo]

still rocking pokemon pfps too

[cyan island]

ignore my laugh, i was on call with eki and angel 😭

[sacred sonnet]

i was being emo at the time so i wasnt talking to you two for about 15 minutes :3

[lapis sigil]

what vc are u guys in ?

[cyan island]

was yesterday

[cyan island]

😭

wanna play smth later?

[sacred sonnet]

fs

id be free

[cyan island]

time to bully-- i mean be friendly to eki

[lapis sigil]

lol

[cyan island]

[sacred sonnet]

perfect friend right here

[cyan island]

my response?

[sacred sonnet]

my response to your response?

[ember locust]

[spring otter]

Cute

[ember locust]

Ty

[spring otter]

There are many people with Hatsune Miku skins among the mm.

[ember locust]

I don’t do MM

[spring otter]

Oh, is that so?

[ember locust]

Ye

nvr played tbh

[spring otter]

It might be fun for people who like assassination games!

[ember locust]

tbh might as well do among us

[spring otter]

HAHA

It's Among Us without reports and meetings.

[ember locust]

Pretty much

[lament stag]

[serene marsh]

jeo

[ember locust]

[lament stag]

omg haiii skyy, love seeing you

[lament stag]

hello miku

[ember locust]

Hiya

[serene marsh]

you still use my emoji omg ☹️

[lament stag]

you know ittt

[ember locust]

[cyan island]

jeo

[lament stag]

haiii luvvvieee

i hope youve been well

[cyan island]

i have, i hope youve been well too !

[ember locust]

[lament stag]

yipppeee, yes i have as well thank you

[ember locust]

[lament stag]

is okii i click the link in ur bio luvviee

[cyan island]

yes it's just mine and jordys server

[lament stag]

yipppeee okii, perfect

[river anchor]

turkey

[ember locust]

[molten forge]

Hi

[molten forge]

Also hi

[plain merlin]

Still no mm update

[sacred sonnet]

your name in order

hmm

i dont have it

@cyan island can help you

[cyan island]

no clue

[sacred sonnet]

</3

[fierce tendon]

I NEED someone to tell me Im not going insane. I swear that in game on one of the screens on the backrooms map I saw a QR-Code today. The round ended before i could screenshot, but I SWEAR there was a QR-Code

[plain merlin]

👀

[fierce tendon]

I SWEAR IT WAS THERE. I checked in the replay, but its not there. I SAW IT. I think I might be going insane....

[sonic laurel]

You are going insane.

[fierce tendon]

AHHHHHHHHHH

[sonic laurel]

QR codes aren’t a real thing guys

[plain merlin]

Really?

[fierce tendon]

on this one. I swear it was there. light green

and its only there whith a specific map

ive been searching for HOURS

[plain merlin]

What is the map

[fierce tendon]

Backrooms. but the party area is black and the box that is usually there is replaced by the pc

[vale egret]

I died 1st 3 times in a row

[fierce tendon]

I found it on google. I didnt imagine it!

Im going insane over minecraft...

[shrewd creek]

[lament stag]

haiii

[molten forge]

Hi

[cobalt pier]

Perfect game?

[livid shore]

You are the greatest mm player ever

[cobalt pier]

fr

[haughty plaza]

25 more lvls

[deep mirage]

Sorry bro

[shrewd creek]

11 more

[haughty plaza]

Prestige when?

[shrewd creek]

Idk, maybe before or after the end of this year

[haughty plaza]

Alr

[pseudo knoll]

ok

Hey guys still no mm update isnt that awesome and so amazing sauce?

[deep mirage]

Yeah sadly we have to wait till early 2026

Probably around January/February

Does somebody know what they mean with the challenges for The new mm update

Is it something like the BedWars quests? Like picking up 100 coins for a daily maybe 100 xp or similar to the 500 xp quests in bw get 100 wins or get 5 wins as a murder idk

[tropic kernel]

“Early” probably being april 😭

[jagged robin]

Still no idea what the mm update is supposed to be. How long has it been planned for and does anyone know what they'll be adding/changing?

Btw, anyone know smthing about b5ny? Wasnt online for a few months and she was like a "big" mm person back then. Is she still active?

[deep mirage]

*I can say what the update does:

1. same hub as BedWars/SkyWars/Build Battle
2. New limited time mode (LTM) like Speed Builders but something related to murder mystery
3. It’s been planed for 10 months next month 11
4. Something with quests maybe same as BedWars where you have daily and seasonal to get more xp then only by playing
5. And maybe one new map or something extra*

Or you go into google or whatever and type hive roadmap and there are all updates so you can see what comes next or whatever

[jagged robin]

Do u know how long this has been planned for?

[deep mirage]

10/11 months

[jagged robin]

Dang, what're they doing

[fervent ginkgo]

what do the italics add to this

[deep mirage]

It would’ve been maybe released 4 months ago in like September/August but they put BedWars S3 into the background

[deep mirage]

Wdym by Italics

Like they put the bw update in the foreground bc BedWars bringing mostly the players for hive ngl

[fervent ginkgo]

idk how to explain italics to you bro

[deep mirage]

It’s always around 6 —> 10k

[fervent ginkgo]

its the way u wrote it

[deep mirage]

Oh bruh

Yeah that one hello

[jagged robin]

So theres no real confirmation that it'll get released in early 2026, right?

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah why italics

[deep mirage]

I just did them bc they looked cool ngl

[fervent ginkgo]

😭

[deep mirage]

They look rlly interesting idk why

Hahaaaa 😭

[deep mirage]

Yeah mostly we just know that

[fervent ginkgo]

yup this is mm community in 2025 alright

[deep mirage]

But if we get more news we just get an eta (estimated time of arrival)

[deep mirage]

Erm I’m not rlly into the mm community ngl

I also just come into the server mostly very random

[jagged robin]

Fr

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah you sound like just build

[deep mirage]

Erm is that a compliment or a joke

Bc I don’t rlly get it

[fervent ginkgo]

take it as you will

[deep mirage]

Also I prefer sounding like BedWars bc I prefer playing BedWars but since my controller got stick drift I played every mode till I maxed it and no Murder Mystery is next

[deep mirage]

Okay I guess.

[fervent ginkgo]

you prefer sounding like bedwars?😭

[deep mirage]

Yeah ngl bc I was a TW/BW Main

Bc I liked treasure wars before they turned it into BedWars…

Yeah but just build just feels weird ngl

Also soon we’ll get our first present if I’m not wrong

[fervent ginkgo]

idk if slandered is the right word there

[deep mirage]

Yeah maybe I’m kinda to dumb to type

[fervent ginkgo]

what present

[deep mirage]

Idk why I used it ngl

[deep mirage]

Every December they made a Christmas tree where you get a present

And every day you have to login to get that present and in the present is like something for maybe SkyWars or Murder or whatever

[fervent ginkgo]

oh that present

[deep mirage]

And it’s in a few hours on the first I’m I remember correctly

[deep mirage]

Ye

[fervent ginkgo]

you must be the hive expert then

[deep mirage]

Also I love it how they wanna add BW S4 soon or later next year

While BW S3 was kinda a waste of waiting for a mm update

[deep mirage]

Nah not rlly it’s in the roadmap

And it says ETA December 1st 2025

[fervent ginkgo]

can i have your insight since ur an expert

[deep mirage]

Erm

Im not an expert

[fervent ginkgo]

no i need ur insight thi

[deep mirage]

But can you teach me how to get better in mm

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah i gotchu

[deep mirage]

Bc I wanna prestige it and you seem like a good player

Bc I saw your almost prestige 5

[fervent ginkgo]

vote office and castle town + camp a lot + abuse 3rd person camera

thats it

[deep mirage]

And I need tips how to be smarter as an murder/innocent/sheriff

[deep mirage]

Yeah 👍🏻

[fervent ginkgo]

murd kill fast innocent get bow and camp sheriff shoot and camp

[deep mirage]

Can you gimme a tip how to get more concentration bc I lose concentration fast if the murder is behind me

[fervent ginkgo]

how bro its been 5 minutes

[deep mirage]

Wdym

[fervent ginkgo]

concentration on what

[deep mirage]

I just looked up your stats while we been talking

[fervent ginkgo]

dang alrigjt

[deep mirage]

I can’t concentrate as a murder or if the murder is behind me

Bc I’m scared I get shot from the back

[fervent ginkgo]

use the back camera

[deep mirage]

From some prestige 5 lvl 100

[fervent ginkgo]

js abuse all the cameras

[deep mirage]

Okay

[fervent ginkgo]

and then find a corner and turn around and shoot

[deep mirage]

Yeah 👍🏻

Is there any way to lvl up faster then usually

Bc people just don’t vote the good maps

And mostly either I die first 30 seconds or game goes full 5 min

[fervent ginkgo]

Party with good ppl and vote with them

games go faster

[deep mirage]

That’s gonna be hard bc I don’t rlly have good people

[fervent ginkgo]

put on a girl skin youll find good people real fast

[deep mirage]

Erm lol

Do you think using boosters in mm is good or just stupid in general

[fervent ginkgo]

I dont bc i dont play that much

[deep mirage]

Bc some guy named jaxxmu said he wanna buy 100 boosters to get to prestige 2 ngl I guess it was a joke but still

[deep mirage]

Ah okay

[fervent ginkgo]

and im usually texting ppl during games

[fervent ginkgo]

i mean he prob plays all day so it works for him

i js be getting bored after 30 mins or i gotta go text or call someone

[deep mirage]

Yea prob true

[deep mirage]

Yeah I mostly play 4 - 8 hours and get 2 - 4 lvls

[fervent ginkgo]

wild stuff

[deep mirage]

But i wanna get prestige 1 before December 19th

Bc I have winter break there and I wanna prestige in this mode and after I wanna relax and max bw and death run and also I wanna beat just build

I only need 22 lvls in BW 40+ lvls in DR 45 Lvls in murder and 7 lvls in Build battle

[fervent ginkgo]

45 lvls in murder finna take u some time

[deep mirage]

Then I have 3 gamemodes maxed and one prestiged

[fervent ginkgo]

ive been pres 4 for 8 months

[deep mirage]

Nah ngl not rlly only last 20 lvls but ye

[deep mirage]

I’ve been lvl 40 for 2 years

[fervent ginkgo]

last 20 levls are slow

or maybe i js don’t play enough

[deep mirage]

You rlly don’t 30 minutes is nothing for lvl 82

Like last 15 - 20 lvls take like 2/3 hours or sum

If you get like 70 xp per game idk I think it was 100+ games and if you get more than 100 xp mostly it’s 82 games but ye

Also is it smart to q if you get the xp cap

Bc sometimes I hate waiting till end bc the murder doesn’t kill anybody

[fervent ginkgo]

I dont care abt exp i js care when im bored and to listen to music or while im calling

i have never played this game for stats

thats mad boring

[fervent ginkgo]

google sheets level stuff

[deep mirage]

I also don’t care about stats ngl

But mostly I just wanna gain xp fast then waiting 5 minutes bc the Murder been taking a nap

[fervent ginkgo]

you js play to max then

[deep mirage]

Honestly yeah

I never cared about stats only about maxing something that’s give me satisfaction ngl.

[fervent ginkgo]

so what happens when u max everything

u js quit?

[deep mirage]

I probably never will max everything

[serene marsh]

ya ur not insane i have the link it takes u to

its just some lore page u can read from

[deep mirage]

Bc I’m to bad for getting prestige 5 in SkyWars or Murder Mystery

I just wanna max everything or play this server like the time I enjoyed it

[haughty plaza]

@final elm took you long enough to get lvl 100

[final elm]

Smh

[deep mirage]

Not everyone plays mm 24/7

Ok he does

I didn’t say anything my fault

[haughty plaza]

Bro it took her about 3 months to get 5 lvls

[deep mirage]

Oh okay yeah I think I’m not better lol I’m lvl 55 after 2 years

[haughty plaza]

Same

[deep mirage]

But I can defend myself… I played other games before playing mm

Yeah but your prestiged and I’m not

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah its been over 5 years ion have it

[haughty plaza]

Bro i get so demotivated

[deep mirage]

I guess I can relate I’m only lvl 55 and just wanna get the 2 skins

[haughty plaza]

It took me like 2 months to get lvl 30

[final elm]

Erm it actually took like 5

[deep mirage]

Yeah but you don’t play the game as long as other people do it like you don’t play 4 hours a day you play 30 and maybe on a day where you grind you still don’t play maybe more than a few hours

[haughty plaza]

Ig it was a lvl a month

[deep mirage]

So a huge difference to people that grind the game daily and don’t get prestige 5 or whatever

[fervent ginkgo]

true that its crazy i been on this since 2020 tho

[deep mirage]

Yeah she/he probably played maybe 2 games per day that’s why it took 5 months to get 5 lvls

[fervent ginkgo]

and this community only gotten worse

[deep mirage]

That’s right

[haughty plaza]

I am surprised I anit demotivated yet I have been grinding mm for 2 weeks and 8 hours+ every day this week

[deep mirage]

Hive community getting worse day by day

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah real talk

[deep mirage]

I can’t play that much bc of school

[fervent ginkgo]

bunch of random ahh prestiges

[deep mirage]

But I only play 4 hours per day just to get 2 - 3 lvls

[haughty plaza]

I didnt have school this week

[deep mirage]

I try getting 2/3 lvls every day to get prestige 1 by 18/19 December

Then I have winter break from 19th December —> 7th January and in that period I try maxing bw/dr/build battle

[haughty plaza]

Same I think

[deep mirage]

Yeah I don’t need much lvls for those 4 modes

45 Lvls in MM
22 Lvls in BW
40+ Lvls in DR
7 Lvls in Build Battle

I guess the easiest out of these would’ve been Build battle or MM bc winning 400 games for lvl 100 in BW with Stickdrift gonna be hell

And DR I never get top 3 ngl

But still I get mostly around 150 xp so still won’t take rlly long to max the mode

[urban atlas]

hey @serene marsh dont know if you'd be down but if you want we can party up and get 1st and second on the leaderboard for wins, im gonna try to go for number 1 rn cuz im close to qm5pvp.

[neat musk]

Hi everyone

[deep mirage]

Hey

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[neat musk]

Hey guys every subscribe to @LuxGGlux

[toxic warren]

2026

[serene marsh]

im busy atm maybe later

sorrey

[serene marsh]

thank you 😊

[urban atlas]

no problem man

[pseudo knoll]

Yeah it took you 100000000 years

[final elm]

😭😭

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[pseudo knoll]

Still no mm update

[soft kindle]

Chrismas update is cominggg

The hive logo turned blue

[haughty plaza]

Fr

[sage rose]

MM Hub finally updated

[ember locust]

[clear stirrup]

anything new?

[sage rose]

Office party and village map

[clear stirrup]

ight ight at least we got smth

[queen oxide]

i have been self exiled

[trim salmon]

Is the village map good? I’ve never played it

[spring otter]

Could it be that a limited-time map has arrived?

[mild shoal]

it was good back when you could mess with the doors

[gritty bloom]

why does this look so much like cheats 😭

[lapis sigil]

Cuz you do use cheats come on just admit it 😭 the community won’t care as much since ur quitting 😂

[tropic kernel]

h m m m

[runic crown]

[astral umbra]

Attack the corner? Not really cheats, just looks like proper positioning?

[arctic linden]

Tbh even in f5 he isn’t rly looking at anything interesting

[paper zenith]

Does anyone know if the replay hub backrooms map still exists?

Like the map variant

[rose ginkgo]

it does

its just rare

[molten forge]

[sharp monolith]

Still no mm update but the christmas update lowkey small so maybe that's good for mm update

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[haughty plaza]

@final elm you should definitely wait for me till you prestige

[final elm]

You don’t do it with me 😭

[haughty plaza]

It takes you so long to low up some times

[final elm]

I give you until Christmas

[haughty plaza]

I will have it by then should be 100 in abt 2 weeks

[final elm]

You know I’m not online a lot 😭

[haughty plaza]

Sure

[topaz cove]

stop requeing us uwu @urban atlas

[mild shoal]

i got in a game with the sacred EvilQ, she was murd on ct and i didnt take account for bow range. i will say tho if bow range was like it was in the past i woulda hit her

then we had a staredown pretty much the entire rest of the match

[final elm]

You would have cooked me

[mild shoal]

i lost you the moment you went into caves

then you shortly after died

[final elm]

Don’t look at replays 😭

[topaz cove]

[mild shoal]

its too far in the past to look at

[civic spoke]

Who here already finished all the puzzles cause I did

[mild shoal]

not me ive been too locked into mm

[civic spoke]

I think I saw both of you guys in my game but you requed In the end

[mild shoal]

we q certain maps lol

[civic spoke]

Oh

Like backrooms office etc

[mild shoal]

office, nectar lake and fairy are the main three, we decided to just q backrooms today as we werent feelin it

[civic spoke]

Yeah I thought so

[quiet umbra]

sometimes when i play murder mystery and im innocent i like to run between the sherif and the murder and pretend im a hero taking a bullet for the sherif

[civic spoke]

Good 4 you

[quiet umbra]

what is wrong with you

[civic spoke]

I often hit the innocent

[mild shoal]

yea same here

[quiet umbra]

this is why lifeboat is better on foenem

[civic spoke]

Not the murd in most cases because innocents keep getting in the way

[quiet umbra]

murd

[civic spoke]

Short for murderer

[quiet umbra]

no

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[spring otter]

The Christmas update has already arrived.

[narrow cedar]

Early next year bro

[mild shoal]

its gonna get delayed

furthermore, trust

[narrow cedar]

I hope not bro, we all dying for this. I swear if season 4 for bedwars get released before mm update dam ima fry

[mild shoal]

eh, i have mixed feelings about the update. only time will tell weather or not itll be hype worthy

[narrow cedar]

[spring otter]

The mm update should definitely come first.

It seems unlikely that Season 4 will be ready soon.

[mild shoal]

@static gale yeah that didnt go out the way i wanted it, im not misogynistic🥲

[topaz cove]

imagine the update is jus horrible 😭

[mild shoal]

im thinkin its gonna be that way, i mean unless hive pulls some great mm update. i personally think mm is gonna die down

[topaz cove]

yeah thats fr whats gonna happen 😭 its gonna die cuz they only care about bw tbh

mms gonna die an people gonna move on to other games 🤷‍♂️

[mild shoal]

mhm

[lapis sigil]

Never thgount the stinker would have a cord acc

@static gale repot me already

[serene marsh]

repot

[static gale]

freaks

[trim salmon]

Rude

[serene marsh]

yeah what the heck

[static gale]

ok.

[mild shoal]

yeah

what did we ever do to you

[static gale]

smh

[pseudo knoll]

is that iwqnn

(clone)

"iw"qnn

quit copying my name twin

[pseudo knoll]

the update wont be good at all lmao

[static gale]

sorry twin

[pseudo knoll]

its only overhyped bc hive is stalling it like how dream did with his face rev

[mild shoal]

yeah

[pseudo knoll]

like literally we lucky if we get pres 10

bc then it would be worth my wait

[trim salmon]

Prestige 10 would be hype tho

[pseudo knoll]

im telling u right now im grinding pres 10

[mild shoal]

i doubt we'd get more levels

but if we do id be hyped myself

[arctic dust]

When murder mystery prestige 20

[serene marsh]

lemme hit 5 pls

[pseudo knoll]

its weird how ppl say that prestige ruined mm when sweats make almost 0 difference to the actual game

skywars and bedwars have it so much worse

so i see no reason for them not to add prestige 10

especially with more rewards for each prestige

[trim salmon]

Yea

[pseudo knoll]

realistically if they add it imma be one of the first ppl to pres max it

[mild shoal]

same here, im ready for that grind

[pseudo knoll]

im going for all time anyway so more lvls cant possibly hurt

[trim salmon]

I’m kinda tired of mm rn 🫤

[pseudo knoll]

calamari did you max yet

[trim salmon]

…

[pseudo knoll]

..

so.

youre telling me that i basically had this level rivalery with you

for NOTHING

[trim salmon]

I’m going for build all time instead

[pseudo knoll]

NO

MAX MM ??

R WE REAL 😭

[trim salmon]

I got 5th block drop monthly last month 💀

[pseudo knoll]

💀

[trim salmon]

Anything but max mm

[pseudo knoll]

used to be all time for bd

[mild shoal]

calamari

[pseudo knoll]

but block drop is stink

[mild shoal]

max mm this month with me

[pseudo knoll]

^^^ 10/10 suggestion right here

what even could go wrong with that genuinely

[trim salmon]

I’m so bad now

Ima go tool on some alt or smth

[pseudo knoll]

W alt

honestly i stopped caring about if people cheat or not

[trim salmon]

zCalamariTools 🔥

[mild shoal]

its not like hive team gonna do much bout it lol

[pseudo knoll]

it should be obvious that im not the biggest fan of the hive staff and how they maintain things

so idc

[mild shoal]

me and you both

[pseudo knoll]

im not going to say a lot on their own server bc im not tryna get muted or banned off of here

but thats stuff for dms 😊

anyways still no mm update

[narrow chasm]

No mm update

[mild snow]

............

[lapis sigil]

The ebf a troll now 😭

[buoyant remnant]

Hive is carrying ghosty rn

[covert kindle]

Ghosty costume is nice :D

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah we all charlie the mod haters

[spring otter]

Isn't it okay not to say 'no update' until 2026?

[buoyant remnant]

It’s ok

[lofty marlin]

https://discord.com/events/195265653425307649/1444859101841588397

[pulsar oxide]

I know

[pseudo knoll]

Still no mm update

[hollow dome]

I left for almost 2 months, expected good news about the update, and this is what I get?

[livid shore]

The more you send it the lower your chance is to win

[pseudo knoll]

LOL 😭

But its okay bc hive knows we'll keep coming back 🥀

[hollow dome]

I just took a break thinking the update was coming out on December

It’s probably coming late 2026 I assume.

[pseudo knoll]

According to them its early 2026 but who knows atp

Its prolly gonna be delayed for like easter and valentines or sum

Because ig its always going to be overcrowding with updates 💀

[echo lance]

Why mm update even take so long if it’s just a ltm if they’ve started it months back surly they should be done with it now why the delay

[hollow dome]

“Priorities” I guess microtransactions are more important than releasing MM.

[lament stag]

exactly that! if theres a way they can make money they would take it over updating murder. which, i feel like theres enough demand to somehow make a mm update that does consist of a consumer spending their money. always money to be made somewhere.

[hollow dome]

At the end, we know they are releasing an MM ticket.

[lament stag]

i definitely could agree to that, theyll get a good amount of buys.

i still crave a paw print zapper trail

[hollow dome]

To be honest, I don’t play MM anymore, so who knows what we’ll get. A single map is more than enough.

[lament stag]

ahhh same, if it makes the comm happy well then so be it

[hollow dome]

The delay makes the update look big, if it’s a small update, Hive will end up losing players.

[lament stag]

while that could be true, you just never know w hive. it could be one map or like many many things. i can get the frustration of people waiting and waiting for an update just for it to be minuscule and people get upset. id be surprised if they added pres 10 because thats a lot of grinding, but at the same time not surprised cause it seems like such a easy thing to just throw out there w not much effort compared to new maps and such.

[hollow dome]

Yes. To be honest, I prefer getting ONE map than prestige 10, it would be so lazy of them if they do that, also on the ltm side, I hope they choose something original not like Among Us, while it would be good having that, it would feel rushed and copied from another game.

[lament stag]

omg yes totally agree. ive seen people talk about an among us game mode but itd feel so lazy and sloppy considering among us is already its own thing. pres 10 would just be boring for a lot of people, and only benefit people that like to grind heavily, not a lot of playerbase there. but like you said a ltm, new maps, new cosmetics included in a ticket or something similar would be great imo.

[hollow dome]

Yes, maybe also could be good a revamp or extension to some maps, since they are sometimes unfair for innocents/murderer. Like Remnants, for murderer it’s a hard map since it’s pretty big, or Office, a very small map for innocents to hide, Maybe getting more cosmetics by prestiging would be good. The only downside I see from the update are the challenges, challenges get rid of quests, like bedwars, at least for me it would be hard to get Qp’s since the only quests I used to do are MM ones. Though, cosmetics are always great to have.

[lament stag]

ooouuu that sounds cool, or different variants of og maps like theyve done w backrooms. super cool ideas! i feel like there could be a lot to work with, but they just need to find the right people willing to put time and effort into it. idt im a good person to speak on challenges/quests cause i never do them and dont really know how they work or how they differentiate. but agreed on cosmetics always being a hit.

[pseudo knoll]

the tickets only a good idea if its not limited time

[hollow dome]

Yes, challenges just give XP and “Challenge Medals” which are used to trade with the Challenge Merchant for cosmetics, however, they don’t give QP’s. The only way to get QP’s from MM is doing quests, but since Bedwars don’t have any type of quests at the Quest Master, I assume the only was of getting QP’s from MM will be gone forever.

[pseudo knoll]

and honestly if they dont add stat track titles thats gnna be a good sign the update is going to suck 😭

[hollow dome]

They’re probably adding them as challenge rewards.

[pseudo knoll]

if they add pres 10 though they should definitely encorporate more rewards per prestige beyond the 500 qp and the hub title/avatar

because thats going to be a lot of levels

so they at least gotta do smth with them

[hollow dome]

Yes, and also, if they get to add Pres 10, make XP adjustments so it’s easier to level up, like the forums one I posted some months ago.

[pseudo knoll]

imo making xp adjustments wouldnt be really fair to the people whove already grinded though

i mean it could be alright but im not exactly sure

it should most definitely not be as easy as treasure wars was for xp

or as difficult as skywars

[hollow dome]

At least a little buff could be enough.

[pseudo knoll]

^^ indeed

anyway for the hub its gonna be interesting being a really high level in front of all the nons 😎

[hollow dome]

Yes. Though I don’t play MM.

[pseudo knoll]

it would be great for a bunch of lvl600s to take a HUGE screenie or sum

[pseudo knoll]

hopefully the update is good enough for you to come back to it 🥀

who knows if itll be

[hollow dome]

I don’t think so. I mainly quit because of time issues. Still, i don’t have enough motivation to come back.

[pseudo knoll]

im only playing for all time wins now basically

im less than 10k away from top100

[hollow dome]

Nice

[pseudo knoll]

i know exactly what im doing if they add pres 10

imma get a parrty of 8 maxes and prestige at once LOL

gonna be the best prestige party oat 😭🙏

[hollow dome]

That would look great.

[pseudo knoll]

how was your break?

[hollow dome]

Fine. I could relax and do my stuff knowing there wasn’t anything to worry about. Thanks for asking

[pseudo knoll]

hmmm maybe i could benefit from a break 🤯

[hollow dome]

Yeah, you should try it. Truly helps out to clear your mind if Discord overwhelms you

[pseudo knoll]

noted :D

[silent arrow]

I'm in!! 🫡

[lament stag]

pink paw print zapper trail

[hollow dome]

Grayscale Sparkles Zapper trail.

[silent arrow]

Raygun Ray Zapper Trail

[gritty bloom]

i saw this from a reply, nobodys convincing me to join in

[silent arrow]

😭🙏

[sonic laurel]

You’re so pretty 😔

[pseudo knoll]

okay mud 😒

[lament stag]

heh fanks so much, youre prettier

[sonic laurel]

🥰 had to come back for the Christmas stuff just cause im bored and saw you talking 😍

[lament stag]

holaaaaa i do be talking here every once in a while

[sonic laurel]

😘 I’m trying to murder people mysteriously and I’m not able to do any murderous stuff

[languid tangle]

a strong start to this month's grind

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[topaz cove]

yo i jus saw u in my lobby u should prolly be careful around that ocean metro dude hes doesnt hide it at all 😭

hes been tooling forever now

[mild shoal]

had a feelin bout it

[topaz cove]

yea he was making some crazy plays against me an con xd

[urban atlas]

good thing i done run his butt out

[thorny patrol]

Naurrr that’s crazy ngl. Got any replay of it?

[vale egret]

And i didn't even ragequit today

Or got angry in general

Can you believe that

[mild shoal]

i cant say the same

[vale egret]

Who

[mild shoal]

i fs got angry

but im tired so its ok

[silent arrow]

oh word? I was always suspicious of that guy!! 👀

[haughty plaza]

21 more lvls

[languid tangle]

Fr we got very chill lobbies today

[vale egret]

Yeah

[languid tangle]

[wraith tundra]

Finally maxed this game out

[languid tangle]

GGs

[mild shoal]

congratss

im almost there ( i say as im half way through pres 5 )

[wraith tundra]

Yeah I’ve seen you around good luck with it

[wraith tundra]

Thank you

[mild shoal]

[languid tangle]

Yw

[vale egret]

[vale egret]

Oh yes i saw you today

[pseudo knoll]

yeah youve got lvl600 in the bag bro

[mild shoal]

given i got 8 levels alone today, yeah

[tropic kernel]

what level are you??

[mild shoal]

...

67

[tropic kernel]

….

time to delete the account

did you use xp boosts??

[mild shoal]

nope

[pseudo knoll]

asher get a drink of water

i think you need one 😭

[mild shoal]

i think i need sleep

[unreal halo]

How do I activate or look at my XP boosts? I'm pretty sure I got a ton of them

[pseudo knoll]

nooo really 😭

[mild shoal]

but im 2 away from a record

[tropic kernel]

Emerald when ur in the mm lobby

[unreal halo]

Mk thx 🫡

[mild shoal]

1 now

[pseudo knoll]

what record

[mild shoal]

daily elim

[pseudo knoll]

skull

[mild shoal]

this was pain

[mild shoal]

im gonna go do this now

[livid shore]

67

[void oak]

Is there any news about when the mm update ganna come?

[mild shoal]

next year

[void oak]

Like GTA VI ganna drop first or the MM update type of next year?

[mild shoal]

idk GTA vi release date, mm supposed to be early of next year

[lament stag]

😮‍💨

clean

[strange palm]

thank goodness you're only 1767 xp away!

gosh darn it

[mild shoal]

you made it worse

[strange palm]

😭😭

it's inevitable!

[mild shoal]

next week I'll fix it, trust

[mild shoal]

ty

[lethal walrus]

^

[livid shore]

67

[neat musk]

Hi everyone

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[strange palm]

[inner sundial]

Eclipse take a break is not that serious 😭

[lunar ermine]

coming 2026 trust 😭

[strange palm]

yes

[trim salmon]

Hello

[trim salmon]

S w e a t

[lunar ermine]

love ya pfp lol

[wide tree]

mhm

[toxic warren]

i nearly didn’t recognize the “new” name!! hi chompy wsp

[lunar ermine]

helloo? who are u lol

[toxic warren]

either ur the wrong chompy or i was ur mod before u took a break 😭

[strange palm]

thank you!

[ember locust]

[toxic warren]

it looks like mi gato

[strange palm]

😭

[toxic warren]

i’m not even lying why u taking pictures of my cat 😒

[strange palm]

the cat in my pfp is my friend's cat

[hollow dome]

Does anyone know if the MM update comes out any time in the next 100 years?

[toxic warren]

i must be the most funnny person/sheep in the world! i was taken seriously when intended to make a stupid joke mb everyone

[strange palm]

I get the joke I'm just saying lol

[ember locust]

[toxic warren]

okok jokes aside the pfp is really cute lol

[soft kindle]

still an awesome cat tho. What is their name?

[strange palm]

thank you

[strange palm]

shadow

[topaz cove]

id have to look way back but yeah i prolly do

[soft kindle]

I should be locking in on college applications but I NEED TO GRIND MM PRESTIGE

[toxic warren]

GOGOGO prestige!

[thorny patrol]

Nahh don’t do that it’s oki, don’t waste your time!

[topaz cove]

alr, if im ever in his lobby an he does something weird ill get the replay code fr

[tropic kernel]

Old

[thorny patrol]

Bettt. I mean if not I’m sure I can get it here soon just need to pay attention who’s in lobby LOL

[topaz cove]

if u use flarial jus put him on the player notifier fr xd

hes super blatant so like u will def know

[thorny patrol]

I didn’t know you can do thattttt. Taking notesss LOL. I gotta see this content.

[thorny patrol]

Thank you for telling me this! I appreciate it fr

[soft kindle]

The type of greed they talk about in the Bible

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[fiery hawk]

real

[pseudo knoll]

this is lovely

[wide tree]

mhm

[void oak]

That has to be a world record

[digital cliff]

almost got me killed smh

[wide tree]

oops

[loud ivy]

Still no mm update

[pseudo knoll]

Still no mm update

[narrow cedar]

ya

[haughty plaza]

Not bad

[pseudo knoll]

i think i know exactly what im doing on my xbox 360

im making a 16c ign that yall will love

[pulsar oxide]

Still no mm update

[potent verge]

Boo

[haughty plaza]

20 more

[civic spoke]

Nice I got 11 more to go

Still no mm update

[cloud copper]

Still no mm update

[tranquil saddle]

Early 2026

[devout kernel]

[cloud copper]

I know but I will still hope

[civic spoke]

Same here

[tulip scarab]

what if instead of updating mm

they just removed mm completely

[trim salmon]

I’d grind some block drop probably

[devout kernel]

Try maxing

[spring otter]

It's spreading more and more ♯Still no update. That's a good thing, probably.

[trim salmon]

Still no mm update

[spring otter]

Still no mm update