🕵・murder-mystery

[manic solstice]

You just teamed with ur girl in office

[patent void]

if ur saying i missed someone im sorry im half asleep lol

[manic oriole]

replay?

pls

[manic solstice]

Sure

PoisedGuardian4886

[manic solstice]

Nah you didn’t “missed someone” you was clearly teaming

[wind jacinth]

My sensitivity used to be 50 but now it's 40

[patent void]

bro its like 11pm for me give me a break

im playing with like 2 brain cells rn

[manic solstice]

Hm sure

[patent void]

wait which part of the game r u talking about

[manic solstice]

In office

[patent void]

yeah but like at the start or?

[manic solstice]

You didn’t try to kill her at all

[manic solstice]

You want me to clip it ?

[patent void]

if u mean the person i walked past and went with the frog

im walking past them pretending its not me

[manic oriole]

yes pls

[manic solstice]

….

[patent void]

i play this like among us

[manic solstice]

Alr after this game

[patent void]

im pretending its not me because they have a bow, theyre gonna shoot me if they see me swinging at them

[weak tide]

i do too, i don’t kill everyone i walk past right away. i usually kill, wait a little bit and run around and get coins, kill again, run around with other people to not look sus. it’s a good strategy.

[patent void]

yeah

i only kill multiple ppl if theyre really close together

because if theyre a bit apart and if they have a bow then its obvious its me

[weak tide]

yeah same, and if i know someone has a bow i don’t kill them until i know they’re not paying attention

[astral sphinx]

so annoying teamer

@left dagger

[weak tide]

see that is a teamer 😂

[patent void]

look at my replay, i never did any of that

idk where you got me teaming from

[manic solstice]

Wait 2 min

[patent void]

ive viewed the replay like 3 times and ive never camped with anyone

[fervent ginkgo]

okay yeah that’s teaming lol

[manic solstice]

Ikr ?

[patent void]

i walked past them because they had a bow so i pretended its not me?

[manic solstice]

You killed in front of her but you tried to pretend it wasn’t you ? 💀

Lmaooooo

[patent void]

when did i kill in front of her

[fervent ginkgo]

bro they saw u kill lol

dont try and cover it up

just admit it man

[patent void]

the first kill its legit hard to see them because theyre hiding behind the tall grass

[fervent ginkgo]

they didn’t even try to shoot it was obviously you

[wide spindle]

💀

[patent void]

dude

go to that exact spot i killed the first person and turn around as quickly as i did and i bet you wont see them

well in the replay youll see the name but in game theres no name tags

[wide spindle]

Bro stop defending yourself, it's pointless💀

[manic solstice]

Fr 💀

[fervent ginkgo]

dude

dont team

[patent void]

accusing me of teaming when i literally did not

[fervent ginkgo]

riiiight

[patent void]

sorry that i dont go on a massive killing spree in this game like u guys

[fervent ginkgo]

That aint it bro

[patent void]

then idk what u want me to do

if i killed everyone on sight id be losing so fast

[manic oriole]

thats so teaming 💀

u walk right by her twice, kill in front of her once, and then walk off

and then u say that u dont wanna kill her bc she has a bow and u dont wanna get shot 💀

bro if she was gunna shoot u she'd shoot u after u killed that other guy

ur excuses are giving me genuine depression

[patent void]

you cannot see her from my perspective after the first kill , the animation of the gravestone falling with the magnifying glass blocks me from seeing them comepletely

im already turned around by the time it drops, go look at it yourself

[manic oriole]

uh huh

[patent void]

i aint gonna say anymore about this because i know i did nothing wrong

[manic oriole]

u just conveniently didnt see her there

[patent void]

thats legit replay being bugged, for me it showed me looking to the left at that point

[manic oriole]

oh

likely story

[patent void]

and when i loaded it back to see it again it showed me looking straight

[cerulean blade]

[patent void]

if you think im cheating, alright fine suit yourself, but ik i did nothing wrong

[manic oriole]

I can accept u not seeing them through the sheriff but afterwards right after the second kill theres no way u didnt

u sweat sg theres no way u miss someone hiding in grass

[cerulean blade]

frrrr

[cerulean blade]

esp someone with contrasting colors

[patent void]

im looking at the doorway not them?

[manic oriole]

they're still on ur screen

[cerulean blade]

and the fact she said 'he knows' says a lot

[manic oriole]

maybe

[cerulean blade]

plus she shot at the air

[manic oriole]

thats more telling yea

[patent void]

they are not

im looking at the door

[cerulean blade]

if she wasnt teaming, she wouldve saved her shot to kill him

and by the time he went down the hall, not only would he have seen/killed her

[jaunty axle]

Time for a Deduction Denoument!

[manic oriole]

unless u have an fov of like below 45 theres no way u cant see them here

[patent void]

you cant see 180 degrees in this game, maybe then i would have seen them

[cerulean blade]

her bow wouldve been recharged

[cerulean blade]

technically u can

[jaunty axle]

you can if you toggle perspective

[cerulean blade]

that too

[manic oriole]

u can also turn around

[patent void]

i dont toggle perspective in mm it doesnt help me

[manic oriole]

or see them when theyre right in front of u

[cerulean blade]

but max fov makes u see almost 180 from left to right

[manic oriole]

💀

[manic oriole]

i stg its closer to 110

[cerulean blade]

LMAO

[patent void]

besides i already saw people in the middle area while would i go somewhere else?

[manic oriole]

but there are multiple times where theyre obviously on ur screen

and u just ignore them

[cerulean blade]

yet u ran past them and went down the hall from 'middle area'

[manic oriole]

anyways

imma be laughing at u for it from now on

[cerulean blade]

so u literally did go SomEwHeRe ElSe

[cerulean blade]

same

ppl, i swear

he cannot be this dense

[manic solstice]

Yea I think she was talking abt Punzai, he killed the murderer btw

[cerulean blade]

yes

[manic oriole]

oh

ya that also makes it seem more like teaming

[cerulean blade]

hes so dense, if he were to jump, he would not just fall back on the ground, he would go thru it

[manic oriole]

thats a yo mamma joke right

[cerulean blade]

huh

[manic oriole]

nvm

anyways

[cerulean blade]

i did not make any notations towards his mom lmao

[manic oriole]

toyhouse is the best map

[manic oriole]

no I mean I've heard that in a yo momma joke before

[cerulean blade]

i believe in roasting the actual person rather than the mother of them

[patent void]

look at it from where i killed them

[cerulean blade]

cuz then it does nothing

[patent void]

if you aint paying close attention you cannot see them?

[jaunty axle]

how did you not see the person in the grass

[manic oriole]

ye bro go back like half a second

[cerulean blade]

ppl can have bad mothers and still be good ppl

[jaunty axle]

you were literally coming down the hall

[manic oriole]

for when u were looking STRAIGHT at them

wait dom

whats ur tp

[cerulean blade]

u forget u were a lot closer to the door...

[manic oriole]

u can literally see them

[patent void]

whats tp

[manic oriole]

texture pack

[jaunty axle]

I can record the game and send here in video form for easy access

[patent void]

dude i cannot see them

if you looked at it for more than half a second maybe

but i was already heading into the middle

[manic solstice]

💀

[jaunty axle]

PoisedGuardian4886

ight bet

[patent void]

thats the first time i saw them

i pretended its not me

why is it so hard to understand not everyone goes on a killing spree as murderer like u guys?

[manic solstice]

But you killed the frog just after ? She saw you 💀💀

[patent void]

i killed them right at the corner

it gave me enough time to get behind the turn ?

[jaunty axle]

There is a fine line between teaming and passing people to keep cover

and now we shall see

[patent void]

after the frog i did not encounter her the whole game, how was i supposed to kill them then

[jaunty axle]

my brother and christ you passed by Kelcie Twice and Kelcie picked the hat up

[patent void]

! flawshimi

[jaunty axle]

Kelcie didjt even attempt to shoot you eother

Admit now or I'll post the video here for everyone to see

[patent void]

did you not read what i just said

both times i "saw" her i could not see her

[jaunty axle]

Did you not read what I just said

[jaunty axle]

but she could see you

and she saw you kill the sheroff

she pocked up the hat

and she never once even pulled her bow to shoot you

Checkmate

[patent void]

first time the gravestone blocked her and the second time you can see her head slightly poking out

[jaunty axle]

My brother in christ Gravestones dont have hitboxes

what kind of clown energy is this

[patent void]

but i didnt see the head poking out because it was so little and i was already going to the middle, my eyes were already looking there

[jaunty axle]

All I hear is clownong

[patent void]

i didnt say they have hitboxes, i said you can see them

[jaunty axle]

You can see over them from on top of the flower bed

I'm posting the video

I'll draw pines where she clearly saw you

[patent void]

okay but i didnt see her

[jaunty axle]

but she saw you and never shot at you

[patent void]

i cannot tell you why she didnt shoot me

maybe she was afk or smth at the start?

[jaunty axle]

Because yu were teaming

NO LOL

[patent void]

she didnt move for a bit after the kill

[jaunty axle]

She pucked the hat up

[patent void]

the first one i mean

[jaunty axle]

that proves she wasnt afking

[patent void]

im saying at the start maybe she was?

dude i cannot explain to u the thought process of another player

[jaunty axle]

if she was afking at the start she wouldnt habe ran across the map to get to the flower bed

and to add to that

[patent void]

all i can tell u is what i saw

[jaunty axle]

the flower bed is notorious for being a spot so then crossteamers know where the8r friends are

[jaunty axle]

And what you saw can be incorrect

[patent void]

the hat was literally next to her

if she came back from afk she wouldve seen it right away

[jaunty axle]

it was far enough to walk to it and back

[patent void]

yeah

[patent void]

i legit cannot go and get someone that i cannot see

[jaunty axle]

bull she waited for you to go away so then it didnt look like you let her get the hat

[jaunty axle]

my gjy I'm still on her seeing you

you keep trying to change it to you seeing her

because you know the truth lies there

[patent void]

how could i let her get the hat if i literally didnt see them

the GRAVESTONE blocked me from seeing her

[jaunty axle]

Comms

[patent void]

you do realise it doesnt spawn on the ground but a bit in the air and falls down right

[patent void]

bro i dont vc with ppl on here

[jaunty axle]

Of course, but comms can resolve that

theres no way to prove it either

[patent void]

im always asking for no vc

[jaunty axle]

and regardless of which

[patent void]

exactly so why are you accusing me of being on call with someone???

youre accusing me for the sake of accusing at this point

[jaunty axle]

it's very clear and if you domt admit it, then people will be sure to target you anyways

[jaunty axle]

you're defending and cherry pickimg every detail

It can go both ways

[patent void]

bro i dont even play mm much , idc if ppl target me on here

[jaunty axle]

Stop pretending m8

[patent void]

ppl already target me in other games bc im high lvl

[jaunty axle]

We all know

and worse of all

the nons know

[patent void]

yeah because i didnt do anything?????

[jaunty axle]

and the nons are the real targetters

[patent void]

obviously im gonna defend myself if i didnt do nothing and im accused?

[jaunty axle]

if you didnt do anything you wouldn't habe went this far

[patent void]

yes i would

i dont want ppl to think im cheating when im not??

[jaunty axle]

Then that's on you

[patent void]

i already get called out for doing jitter clicking or whatever when im legit

[jaunty axle]

It's crystal clear

[patent void]

yes it is on me

[jaunty axle]

You realize how many times people say:
"Hrr drr I didnt see them because X" even though they bluntly walk past them

[patent void]

look

this legit the exact frame i killed them

how u gonna tell me i was supposed to see them?

[jaunty axle]

video is sending

[patent void]

im already turned around when it drops

[patent void]

im not gonna dissect it anymore, ive shown every single encounter with them and you can legit see from my perspective i cannot see them

[jaunty axle]

take due note that you walked past her standing there on the ledge

not in the grass

[patent void]

scroll up

[jaunty axle]

the fact thatbshe was crouching and moving

[patent void]

you obviously didnt read the whole chat

[jaunty axle]

You obviously didnt rewatch your game

[patent void]

i watched it five times

[jaunty axle]

Amd now you can watch it again

[patent void]

i walked past them on purpose to pretend its not me??

whats so hard to understand about that

[jaunty axle]

or are you just saying you rewatched it to bury the truth?

[patent void]

its murder MYSTERY

[patent void]

have you not seen the screenshots ive sent

or are you delusional

[patent void]

bumping this so you see it

[jaunty axle]

So why would she respons with
"LOL
HE KNOWS"

[wind jacinth]

?

[patent void]

youre asking me as if im supposed to know

[jaunty axle]

Frost watch the video that was sent and tell me that it wasnt teaming

with a straight face

[wind jacinth]

Which one?

[jaunty axle]

You do know because she was referring to you

[jaunty axle]

@wind jacinth

[patent void]

okay, tell me what im supposed to know then

because i have no clue what she even means by that

[wind jacinth]

I will when I get the chance but not rn

Busy rn :/

[jaunty axle]

He knows as in you know she's there.

I'll literally post the video everywhere and get multiple people to judge on it

if you are so content

[patent void]

omg youre so obsessed

[jaunty axle]

but it would further damage your reputation and label you a liar

[manic solstice]

The fact both of you had the same fox hat, you bypassed her and she didn’t shoot you…. Nah

[jaunty axle]

ah yes, the "you're obsessed" card because you refuse to tell the truth

[patent void]

i showed you that i did not see them yet you still believe im somehow magically supposed to see them through a gravestone and grass

[jaunty axle]

own up to ypur actions like an adult

[jaunty axle]

you're literally calling me obsessed as a copout rn

[patent void]

so youre saying if two people bought the same hat it automatically means theyre teaming?

[wind jacinth]

Can we please not have any drama ;-;

[patent void]

many players isee in hub and games wear the fox buddy hat, its one of the best ones imo

[patent void]

i legit just did

[manic solstice]

read all the thing

[jaunty axle]

It's fine because everyone very well knows the truth now, so I'll drop it where it stands rn

[patent void]

i told you exactly word for word what i did and saw

[patent void]

i did, i already explained your other points so im not even gonna bother anymore

because itll just keep going in circles

[manic solstice]

Exactly bc you don’t wanna admit it

[jaunty axle]

The truth is one path from start to finish, lies go in circles until the truth is uncovered

[patent void]

youre so weird

i showed you and TOLD you why i walked past them

[manic solstice]

Bro

Based on the way you are killing, ain’t no way you would bypassed someone EVEN if that player has a bow

[patent void]

kills where no one else is?

[manic solstice]

Gosh….

[patent void]

believe im teaming then, i dont care. i know that i didnt do anything wrong and since no matter how much i show you or say to you that i clearly wasnt teaming im just gonna move on

[pallid summit]

its one video, idc

[pallid summit]

theyre chasing somebody who plays much more of a threat than a corner camper

without a bow/coins

thats a pretty valid strat

[jaunty axle]

the girl had the hat

[pallid summit]

and he may not have been aware of that

[wind jacinth]

Ok just watched it

[pallid summit]

if the teamer is able to defend themselves without a whole bunch of nitpicks, then i will not accuse them

yall are accusing people with 1 partly valid video's worth of evidence that can be defended, and turning the entire comm against them

[manic oriole]

wait that says 3Dominik3 right

is that an alt or smth?

[pallid summit]

it is them.

[jaunty axle]

no, thats my font

[manic oriole]

💀

[manic oriole]

oh

but also theres no way u didnt see her there

[pallid summit]

absurd, theyre camping in a corner

my first instinct is to go for the people that are actually moving around

also, murderer adrenaline causes u to miss people

[manic oriole]

nah u hit them as u go past

[pallid summit]

waste of 2 seconds

i hate taking detours from a main path

[manic oriole]

bath

[jaunty axle]

literally not a waste

[manic oriole]

but also based if ur murd ur supposed to be killing people its not a waste its a free 15xp

[pallid summit]

dont force the way u play to be the determinant on whether the player is teaming or not

its definitely not looking good for them, but it isnt decisive

[manic oriole]

he walked by her 3 times and didnt kill her also let her get the hat

[pallid summit]

once they get accused, it could be over for them bc the mm comm is easily tilted

also, they happen to be very toxic

[jaunty axle]

But it's not only me that thinks that way I'm afraid

[pallid summit]

so?

not everybody thinks ur way

im not saying hes not teaming btw

im just saying that unless im 100% sure im gonna present reasons as to why they could be legit

[jaunty axle]

Fair enough

[manic oriole]

99% sure is enough to accuse

bc u can never be 100% sure

but that is a fair bit more than 99% teaming

[pallid summit]

the 1% of people will be harrassed by the comm every time they get onto disc

🤷‍♂️

[manic oriole]

and they can say "I haven't done it in months let it go"

and people like me will support them

if he missed them once I could understand it

not 3 times

when he's very good at the game

[pallid summit]

idk i think yall are scaring past cheaters from the game

[manic oriole]

bro literally seeker mains in hide and seek howr u gunna miss a whole ass person who doesnt even blend into the map

[pallid summit]

they can become legit yk

[manic oriole]

ya zshqde used to team but they stop and now everyone likes them again

u can have redemption by not doing it anymore

[pallid summit]

except not everybody is as fortunate

[manic oriole]

nah

for now he's a teamer but if he lasts a month without teaming he's clean

[pallid summit]

flare for example

[manic oriole]

flare was blatantly xraying

[pallid summit]

for arguments sake, even if he is cheating, what is the reason for admitting to it and amending it

[manic oriole]

to get respect

admitting to hacking, stopping, and playing legit >>

[pallid summit]

everytime he goes on disc he gets accused, and if he admits, imagine what happens

it also takes a forgiving comm to make that happen, which we are lacking

[manic oriole]

"hey guys I hacked but I stopped a week ago and won't do it again"

it will take some time but the mm comm will forgive

[jaunty axle]

It's hard to have a forgiving community when you have people lie to your face for glory

[pallid summit]

expose them again if theyre cheating again

🤷‍♂️

if it is not detectable that they are cheating, then it is likely that cheating in no way benefits them

[weak tide]

idk i’m not on anyone’s side here. but the way i see it is when i’m accused of doing something i didn’t (irl or minecraft) i will argue till i’m blue in the face to defend myself and prove i didn’t do said thing. but if i was caught doing something, i would either ignore it or slightly argue and then be like okay you’re right.

[manic oriole]

I haven't been in a game with him, if I am I'll be sure to check the replay and if he's not found to be cheating for a month I'm sure all will be forgiven

[manic oriole]

fr

[errant trout]

yes

[pallid summit]

im still not fully convinced flare is cheating

not in the slightest ngl

one sus moment and nothing else on camera

[manic oriole]

based since mods won't really ban cheaters the comm uniting against them is basically the only way to get them to stop, even if the chance is small

[manic oriole]

and you've seen the clips?

you can in no way claim its 3rd person bc u cant see them in 3rd person shade proved that

[pallid summit]

office one is completely possible legit, and toyhouse one is sus, but its the only clip and theres nothing decisive

[manic oriole]

the toyhouse one is blatant

i have yet to see the office one

[errant trout]

There’s also ghosting, idk if that was ever put into consideration

[pallid summit]

u can minimally see from there in third person, even shade did in the video, and there are other reasons why they would have stopped where they did in the video

not enough to go on for me

[manic oriole]

you literally cant

not from where he was doing it

which is kinda the point

[pallid summit]

u can see 5 or so blocks, which is enough for someone with flares skill

[manic oriole]

and no if ur murd u usually don't stop at a 3way intersection bc u cant watch all of them at the same time

[pallid summit]

there is a reason he moved, and once again, u can still see 5 blocks right?

[manic oriole]

skill has nothing to do with seeing people in 3rd person

from the same position the screen is the same no matter the skill

[pallid summit]

thats not what i mean

[manic oriole]

being better doesn't grant u better fov or smth

[jaunty axle]

if you stand like this you can

[manic oriole]

wdym then?

[pallid summit]

i mean he is good at the game, meaning five blocks is enough warning for him

[manic oriole]

sure if theyre approaching

[pallid summit]

u can literally see the hallway though

not much of it, but its there

and u can tell flare is really cautious

[manic oriole]

but he was watching them stand still at the stove from basically this position

[manic oriole]

he's not caution when noones near him

but how does he know noone's near him?

bc he's hacking ez

[pallid summit]

thats an inference, unless he said so

[pallid summit]

the world is not black and white

😭

hes literally run into murds before

[manic oriole]

he never had a wrong inference, went 3rd person in spaces where u couldn't see the other people but still saw them, and the dude named "murder tool" literally called him out

if he's right 100% of the time and also looks like he's cheating he's cheating

[pallid summit]

murderer tool is a cheater

[manic oriole]

yes

[pallid summit]

ok

so why are we taking their word

[jaunty axle]

hmm

[manic oriole]

???

[pallid summit]

my point still stands that u guys have only one clip

[manic oriole]

u can cheat and call someone else out for cheating

[manic oriole]

its blatant so one clip is enough

and other people have been mad sus of him in other games

[pallid summit]

naturally though, the cheater is not as cautious in accusing the wrong person

[manic oriole]

so it isn't just one clip

sure but even normal people can accuse the wrong person ingame

[pallid summit]

its not blatant.

[manic oriole]

oh but it is

[jaunty axle]

The issue is that a cheater would have experience in findong cheaters, as they work in the same field so to speak

[manic oriole]

true

[pallid summit]

most cheaters suck at the game

[jaunty axle]

like someone using reach can tell when someone else is using reach

[manic oriole]

not the good ones

[manic oriole]

anyone can tell when someone's reaching tho

its not hard

[pallid summit]

flare is good at the game

what is his incentive for cheating

[jaunty axle]

Glory

[manic oriole]

u can always ask him

[pallid summit]

he is already capable of that

hes also playing in parties

so glory isnt as easy

[manic oriole]

he's good but not that good so he cheats to make himself perform better?

[pallid summit]

just answer me

[pallid summit]

his aim is better than mine, and i play legit

he could easily get over 2.5 edr

[manic oriole]

I wouldn't know I'm not him

[pallid summit]

well he has no reason

[manic oriole]

I don't know his reason for hacking

[jaunty axle]

I tried it too, I got a couple spots but not on the oven

[manic oriole]

u can always ask him

[pallid summit]

where are u all getting the oven thing

[jaunty axle]

problem is that it's physically impossible to see the right side

[jaunty axle]

because it's hard evidence that's getting pushed aside

[manic oriole]

fr

[jaunty axle]

turned a blind eye onto

[pallid summit]

no, i mean where did he say he was looking for the oven

[manic oriole]

yet he used information he woulda gained by seeing the players there

[pallid summit]

he couldve just been peeking through the window

[manic oriole]

have u seen the clips

[pallid summit]

and then decided to screw going there

[manic oriole]

he saw people at the oven from the spot duncan is showing

and then went to cut them off

as soon as they moved in a direction

[jaunty axle]

How do you cut them off if it is impossible to see there without already coming out

[pallid summit]

if you were a cheater, would that be the way u played

thats the issue that i have

[manic oriole]

yes

so that I could say I was just in 3rd person

[pallid summit]

well then ud be a very bad cheater

[manic oriole]

so is he

[jaunty axle]

yes because it looks like I'm using third person there

[manic oriole]

he got caught

[pallid summit]

why do a shady third person check instead of just going in and have no one be suspicious of you, for example?

[neat wyvern]

Toy house or office

[manic oriole]

so u can say u saw them in 3rd person instead of saying u saw them through a wall

obv

it is very silly fr

[pallid summit]

going through the windows is natural

[jaunty axle]

because if you have murder tool and just up and shoot them for no reason at all and get the murderer correct, that wouldnt be shady? Especially considering that like you said yourself, Redflare is cautious.

[pallid summit]

not for someone of his caliber

[dapper cloud]

[pallid summit]

it is reasonable to have gotten the elim, in fact, it isnt even that hard

[manic oriole]

right so why didnt he do that why'd he 3rd person in a place where u cant see them and then play as if he could see them

he was murd

[jaunty axle]

.

[pallid summit]

makes even more sense then

[manic oriole]

no it doesnt

[pallid summit]

i am a cautious player too, but i have my slipups

[manic oriole]

he only was "cautious" around other people, never when he was alone upstairs even tho people coulda been around the corner

[pallid summit]

that was an explanation as to why he would have tried looking through, but decided not to go in

[jaunty axle]

Not this convenient, however

[manic oriole]

as if he knew they were there and went into 3rd person to pretend he couldnt see them

[pallid summit]

yes, it is, and its one clip

one convenience does not prove a cheater

[jaunty axle]

@manic oriole is there more clips?

I'll try and third person those as well

[manic oriole]

u want the replay?

[jaunty axle]

yes

[pallid summit]

its still one clip though

[errant trout]

Not to mention, he just stood there 💀

[pallid summit]

contemplating

checking

[jaunty axle]

checking what

[pallid summit]

anticipating

[manic oriole]

finishing a game un momento

[jaunty axle]

contempleting what

anticipating who, what and when

[pallid summit]

whether to go in or not

checking may have not been the right word for me

anticipating the murderer, who he couldve seen earlier

i might rewatch for accuracy

[jaunty axle]

oki

[manic oriole]

heres the replay

[jaunty axle]

cheers

[pallid summit]

i dont have cinema

[jaunty axle]

Dont worry

I'll record it

[pallid summit]

video was cut though so i cant tell

still, there are several wrong place wrong time explanations

its only 3 seconds of gameplay, the rest seems legit enough

[manic oriole]

lets wait till duncan shows the whole game k

[pallid summit]

ive seen an entire minute of it 🤷‍♂️

none of it is sus

but that 3 second part

[errant trout]

Iirc someone sent a 2m clip of the relay, I’ll try to find it

[dapper cloud]

okay, might go back to grinding more treasure notes in Fallout 76

[pallid summit]

idk, from all the clips ive seen it was p much the same thing

[errant trout]

From roz

[jaunty axle]

I saw that while recording as well

it's processing, I may have to compress it before sending

[pallid summit]

the reason that they randomly stop on the top floor in that clip may be the same reason they stop near the cafe area instead of third person

otherwise i see nothing too out of the ordinary

[jaunty axle]

And that reason would be

[pallid summit]

typing in chat, maybe, idk

[jaunty axle]

unfortunately

in recent replays

the chat is record

[pallid summit]

party chat

once again, potential reason, not decisive

[jaunty axle]

if it is prty chat then what do you think was bein discussed at that time and frame

[pallid summit]

dude

how do i know

random things

[manic oriole]

but also

[errant trout]

Figured it was either ghosting or cheating 😭

[manic oriole]

howd he see the dudes in those clips anyways

[jaunty axle]

The video botched itself because my storage space os having a seizure, I'll have to record again

[manic oriole]

he couldn't see them in 3rd person

typing or not they were behind walls

[jaunty axle]

but when I was watching the replay there was two other things that piqued my interest

[pallid summit]

there is no proof that he saw anybody

[jaunty axle]

there is no proof he saw nobody either

[manic oriole]

...

[jaunty axle]

my point being

you cant say "well he mever saw anyone or he never saw no one"

[manic oriole]

he played like he saw them

so we can assume he saw them

[jaunty axle]

exactly

[manic oriole]

but he coudlnta seen them since they were through a wall

hence the cheating accusations

[jaunty axle]

But my interest is also peaked through the backdoor

two instances, the back window and the back garage

[serene marsh]

Does he actually still plays after being exposed

[manic oriole]

hes 9nth on monthly

[serene marsh]

I see

[errant trout]

Wouldn’t know, started my break a week ago

[jaunty axle]

the back window he was looking at someone directly in the window, even though it was walled off

[serene marsh]

Oh well I havent played bc am on vacations

[pallid summit]

um...timestamps?

[jaunty axle]

I'll try and record it again

[pallid summit]

ghosting is perfectly valid and acceptable against a cheater

🤷‍♂️

[jaunty axle]

Ghosting would make sense but then next question is to be asked

[pallid summit]

wait what

[jaunty axle]

His positioning with the window would mean he couldnt see anythung through it

[molten forge]

🙂 thank you your first game got murderer

[pallid summit]

he stopped in random moments as well in which he wasnt doing the third person thing

[jaunty axle]

Exactly, however you can see by hid head positioning downstairs, he was in third person

[pallid summit]

are u talking abt something else

his head's always down

and he's always in third

[jaunty axle]

But when he is in third person, it's angled differently

[jaunty axle]

but you said he wasnt upstairs

[pallid summit]

can you admit though, that that could be wrong place wrong time

[jaunty axle]

For the Oven, reviewing he repositioned, however there is also the other instances afterwards

[manic oriole]

how about this, we all agree he's a cheater but if we don't see clips of him hacking for the next month we stop hating him and forgive him for his transgressions

deal?

[pallid summit]

i will agree with the second part but not the first

[jaunty axle]

I can conclude on that

[manic oriole]

alr

now lets move on to better topics

toyhouse is the best map

[jaunty axle]

I'm glad I'm enjoying DR and Metroid rn

[manic oriole]

also based did u see my mobile stats for the month

[jaunty axle]

MM is just a hellscape, wish they fixed the Murder Tool situation already

[manic oriole]

I hit a stack of deaths 😭

[manic oriole]

REAL

[jaunty axle]

not me

[manic oriole]

just give everyone a sword that they cant move from the top corner of their inventory like how they did hats

so everyone has a knife in their inventory

and a nether star

[jaunty axle]

that is

actually valid

I was thinking about something like that too, but not on that angle

where Hive jsut makes it so then everyone appeared as murderer

and that would be the basis ti make it work

[manic oriole]

im so down

[jaunty axle]

and for good measure

lock a bow in the murderers inventory as well

that cant be moved or put into their hand

[manic oriole]

yes

[pallid summit]

nice

[pallid summit]

reply to that msg

[manic oriole]

just a "nice"

smh

[pallid summit]

u might wanna try getting a higher elim win rate

[manic oriole]

😭

[pallid summit]

ik nobody but me cares abt that

😭

everything else is good

[jaunty axle]

personally I check MDR

especially with the whole Murder Tool situation

[manic oriole]

nah edr >>>

[manic oriole]

u just gotta ignore the hackers

[pallid summit]

every stat can be improved by that

i think 2 edr + sub 3 game/elim rate is cool

i think i got that with over 300 montly wins once

[errant trout]

Fr

[serene marsh]

what even is a murder tool

[desert island]

u don’t wanna know

[serene marsh]

have u considered me asking me wanting to know by chance

[full lynx]

its a tool for murder

[jaunty axle]

it's a client that lets you see who the murderer is, it's against the rules for obvious reasons

[serene marsh]

why are ppl accusing me of having it just for killing the murder then bro can't even be good at the game without ppl making assumptions .-.

[molten forge]

Hmm

[jaunty axle]

Hmmm

[fringe swan]

[narrow cedar]

hi

[molten forge]

Helloo Pizza

I’m here

[molten forge]

?? @broken phoenix

[broken phoenix]

Hi

Let's video call

[charred plaza]

um

[molten forge]

Hmm

[broken phoenix]

Be frry hi can you be my friend you're a boy or a girl

I'm new here

I'm from in the philippines

[molten forge]

Bruh see my profile

[broken phoenix]

Yes you're a boy you're and vietnam

I'm in the philippines nice to meet you all

[charred plaza]

?????????????????

[broken phoenix]

What you like that

You too you're ok

Sorry

[molten forge]

Br

[broken phoenix]

Where are you leaving

[molten forge]

Nice to meet you too

[broken phoenix]

Thanks

[charred plaza]

okay ka lang????

[broken phoenix]

And nice to meet you all

Ok lang po

I'm bicol

[charred plaza]

ahhhhh

[broken phoenix]

You were a relieved

Hi

Black Friday

[woeful flame]

Were you huys livr

[broken phoenix]

You like mr beast

[woeful flame]

I live in florida

[charred plaza]

me too

[charred plaza]

oo

youre in florida too tess

[woeful flame]

Trvlyaycoxz a sent u friend request

[broken phoenix]

Hey jora philippines

[charred plaza]

hahahehshwtefhs

[broken phoenix]

My name is minecraft

[charred plaza]

noo im not fr

[broken phoenix]

I'm in the australia

[woeful flame]

Were do u guys live

I live in orlando florida

[broken phoenix]

Wow

[charred plaza]

noooo

wow youre in florida

[woeful flame]

Now were u guys live

[charred plaza]

thats so crazy fr

[woeful flame]

Yes

What did u sayyyy

Gongangginga

Nyomiyoyyoyyoy

[neat wyvern]

Grandma turned into a lobster

[wispy thicket]

That Grandma has the greatest gaming chair ever

💀

[flat zodiac]

Opposite coast. : )

[serene marsh]

LMAO

[dapper cloud]

[serene marsh]

O.O

[cerulean blade]

what would the purpose of that be tho

just random items in the inventory that other players cant see

[stiff mist]

assuming he means that's how the murder tool works, so having a sword and bow in all inventories wd mean the tool is useless

I cd be wrong tho

[neat wyvern]

Backrooms ain’t out yet

[cerulean blade]

i think murder tool works by pinging the tool whos murderer by them putting the item in their hand the first time

which is why when i have known cheaters in my game, i target them first, bc if i dont, as soon as my sword goes in my hand, the tool will place the icon or text above my head that im murderer

then ill be completely avoidable

[cerulean blade]

lmaoo

[weak tide]

i love that all the CTF channel drama is gone and now it’s the MM channel. 🤨

[neat wyvern]

There’s drama in MM channel?

[rancid oxide]

players to avoid who uses murderer tool blatanly (AS region):
-Boy vivek yt (this dude is annoying asf)
-moonrider (bruhh smh)
-YUNHAI( i think she got banned but then uses another acc istg)

[neat wyvern]

I have a replay ID of Sttelex using murder tool in AS region
ID: AdjustableGoldenApple2517

[rancid oxide]

hive should fix this tbh

[neat wyvern]

Also my friend says kingsaimer20 also uses murder tool which I wasn’t aware of, I only knew he teams

[rancid oxide]

they do

[neat wyvern]

Thank you for sharing, I haven’t met moonrider yet
However yunhai12/yunhai11 targets high levels while using x-rays whenever she’s murderer

[wispy thicket]

Yeah kingsaimer movement was kinda sussy recently

[dapper cloud]

possibly but microsoft will face security data protection issue. yk, valorant has anti-cheat system to check ur files in pc if you actually cheating or not.

[rancid oxide]

i have a whole list here of xray users on as region

[neat wyvern]

Please list them all so I can avoid them

[wispy thicket]

Have you met Pqmus?

[rancid oxide]

yep

kinda sus too

[dapper cloud]

She's the biggest cheater all time

[neat wyvern]

He’s also an x-rayer and uses reach

Someone told me that pqmus is a girl

Hive is too blind to ban x-rayers every time I try to report them

[rancid oxide]

xray users:
jzzj11
B2KArman(forgot the ign)
moonrider
nwoy7678
WingsMCYT(not sure but best to avoid)
Boy vivek yt ItzBlaadeMC (not sure)

there

also the zunair dude

[neat wyvern]

Ain’t no way ItzBlaadeMC uses x-rays

[dapper cloud]

They need to learn cheater's abilities to spot them then ban' em.

[rancid oxide]

im not sure of him tho

my friend just told me but i haven't suspect him of using it

[dapper cloud]

only they know it's extreme sus bridge & scaffolding.

especially combat

[neat wyvern]

I always go into my replays and I don’t see any suspicions of ItzBlaadeMC using x-rays

Just a normal player

[rancid oxide]

hmm that's great then

[wispy thicket]

About like 2/3 months ago his movement is very weird look like murder tools user tho

[rancid oxide]

damn better to avoid then

[neat wyvern]

Well if he is still using x-rays recently it would be a major problem

[wispy thicket]

Idk for now

[neat wyvern]

Also NoVqxxx and TnT Gamers uses x-rays as well

[dapper cloud]

TnT Gamers still at it again?

since become teamer and now it's xray user. WOW pathetic player of all-time to cheat the game.

[wispy thicket]

Always have been

[neat wyvern]

Well I haven’t been seeing him recently
I just know that I’ve been in some games with him especially when I’m not murderer, his movements were always suspicious and have been using murder tool frequently

[dapper cloud]

im taking a note for that

if i'd encounter them on mm lobbies while using my hidden account instead main.

[wispy thicket]

He is busy with school now, i think

[neat wyvern]

School is more important than hacking

[wispy thicket]

Because at that time there was a long holiday for Indonesian schools

And he uses his day off just to cheating in a block game 💀

[neat wyvern]

Anyone on AS region right now, there's a wall-glitch hacker named Luffygear48374 who isn't banned atm

[astral sphinx]

and tnt teamers😁

[glass wren]

Looking for people who like playing minigames and competitive pvp and are able to vc, dm me if interested. 👀

[jaunty axle]

because you could recalibrate murder tool to look for players who can carry a bow

assuming thats how it would work, observing from other players blunders of leaking the tools functionality

[open palm]

#🥳・looking-for-party

[narrow cedar]

@proven bane please check ur mailbox in the hub

[jaunty axle]

huh?

[narrow cedar]

Nothingg

[jaunty axle]

ight

[narrow cedar]

hru

[jaunty axle]

I'm alright hbu

[narrow cedar]

That’s good to hear! I’m good

[molten forge]

What happening ? @narrow cedar

[narrow cedar]

Nothing? I was just giving him something special

[molten forge]

Hmm

[proven bane]

thank you so much, means a lot 🤩🤩🤩

it's soo cute

[narrow cedar]

Haha no problem!

😄

[proven bane]

I am getting the vibe

[narrow cedar]

87 coins whaaa

[proven bane]

I will start grinding again

yea

[molten forge]

🙂

Gl

[narrow cedar]

[serene marsh]

0_0

[proven bane]

2 months is a long time for break 😄

[molten forge]

You didn’t grind a long time 🙂

[narrow cedar]

Wow

[wispy thicket]

Are u already fine with 1.20.12?

[molten forge]

All 2 mobile are fine ? @wispy thicket @proven bane

[proven bane]

I haven't yet. I don't care about the notifications

I would when they remove it

[wispy thicket]

Same

[proven bane]

but it's very sad we lost old hub now 1.19 forever

not yet but soon "(

[wispy thicket]

😔

[proven bane]

yea man, Life's stuff : )

[proven bane]

1.18 for you.

[wispy thicket]

yes

[proven bane]

so, I am gonna play in 1.19 as long as hive don't remove it

I'll ignore the notification

[south onyx]

Today is going so terrible, everytime im murder I get like 2 kills and instantly shot by the sheriff 😭

[neat wyvern]

I had it worse

[manic oriole]

mobile moment

[cobalt totem]

Nah

I told them to take a shot

Why are people in mm so stupid

[stiff mist]

dw happens to everyone crunchy

[neat wyvern]

Maybe they don’t want to take a random shot and risk it

[proven bane]

classic murder mystery

[proven bane]

ok, unlucky day. but you better keep trying 😟

[molten forge]

@abstract raven

[cobalt totem]

Ye but she was acting suspicious, so one of the sheriffs should take a shot, instead of aiming at each other.

[cobalt totem]

But it's not even about sheriffs. When I was about to shoot, innocent got in my way, I hate it lol.

[cerulean blade]

wait wait wait, ur gonna call ppl stupid, when u already knew who the murderer was, AND DIDNT WASTE UR BOW previously, bc u clearly just couldve gotten a bow from the coins

which u did later on

AND u realize chat is a thing right

just smacking ur hand around does nothing most times

why didnt u just get the bow in the first place, THEN tell ppl who it if u miss

instead of just giving away ur free murderer elimination and xp by standing around waving ur hand at the murderer in front of a bunch of ppl who prolly doesnt even understand

[south onyx]

Always satisfying levelling up from an elim

[wispy thicket]

Indeed

[toxic barn]

Congratulations

[cobalt totem]

How could i know the blue coin was there? In first place i wanted to shoot her, but if the blue coin wasnt there, I would have to go to the other end of the map to get the coin, while someone other would shoot her.

[cerulean blade]

u couldve continued to gather coins

and who cares if u end up on the other side of the map

all u gotta worry abt is u

[cobalt totem]

Yeah I realize, but do you realize that isnt everyone from England or someone cant understand english? It were a few people in the bathroom, maybe all of them didnt know English?

[cerulean blade]

u get coins to defend urself

[cerulean blade]

a lot of ppl understand multiple languages

esp in europe countries

[cobalt totem]

You dont know if they are

[cerulean blade]

better than not taking thay risk

plus more often than not, ppl are bilingual in eu

[fervent ginkgo]

fair

[cobalt totem]

So chat thing isnt good in this moment. Even if people know English, I had so many situations that i said to take a shot, but people dont care about chat

[cerulean blade]

that means abt 10 out of 16 players in eu know at least 2 languages

[cobalt totem]

.

[cerulean blade]

and theres a higher chance they know english than any other language

so that would narrow it down to like 7-8 players out of 16

[fervent ginkgo]

yeah true

[cerulean blade]

but back to my original statement

[fervent ginkgo]

and if you just say something simple it would be easier to understand

[cerulean blade]

u get coins to defend urself, not necessarily go on the offensive

[cobalt totem]

Alright but what would you do? Stand there wih murd and type that she is the murd, so she can kill you or go get the coin to shoot her? I would lose time by typing while she could kill

[cerulean blade]

so just focus on gathering coins, if someone else shoots them, great

if u get enough coins and find her

and shoot her, also great

but just standing there, practically begging to be killed by the murderer

yeah thats not smart

[cobalt totem]

Also im not like that i type who is murd in chat, when I know, Im trying to find coins and shoot her by myself.

[cerulean blade]

then why didnt u do that in the first place

and then call ppl stupid when they dont understand

like

[cobalt totem]

Lol i should do it by remember that chance that coin was there isnt 100%

[cerulean blade]

yeah, but u shouldve just got all 10 coins

instead of just standing there accomplishing nothing lmao

[cobalt totem]

Anyway maybe calling them stupid isnt good, but im sure if there were a good players in there, they would understand and shoot her. Not just because i was pointing at her, but they would see, that she is acting sus.

But nah, sheriffs decided to point at themselves

[cerulean blade]

oh, i was just laughing at the irony

[cerulean blade]

@fervent ginkgo i have a question, can u accept my friend request, i have non-friend dms off on this server

[manic oriole]

Why’s he using the pain. Hub title

What’s he tryna tell us?

[serene marsh]

Just a reminder to keep this channel on-topic with Murder Mystery, thank you 🤍

[dense rampart]

no

[jade marten]

real

[jaunty axle]

I'll think about it

[serene marsh]

[serene marsh]

u can join us if u want

[serene marsh]

what was ur prev ign

ur on my hive friendlist apparently

[radiant sundial]

Hm

[serene marsh]

i am

[paper tendon]

I got killed like ten times from one person, when i was Murder or Sheriff... It was always the same person and he killed me, before i even did something

[manic oriole]

that could just be a coincidence ngl

they assumed someone would pop outa the vent and got lucky with the timing

if its that ambiguous multiple clips are needed for proof

[paper tendon]

Really? Game starts, i just got my bow and he kills me?

[manic oriole]

targeting is a thing

but no I was referring to the hackusation earlier

[paper tendon]

But ur right... The game is easy to play...

Hacking is just sad

[manic oriole]

real

but remember to make sure it's not just a coincidence

sometimes its blatant and sometimes its several "coincidences" but a single moment usually isn't enough to accuse someone

multiple moments in a single game are tho if theyre sus enough

[neat wyvern]

She never saw batman in that window and used the throwable in the vent, isn't that sus...

[manic oriole]

ya but sometimes I run away from the vent and then turn around and throwable it just in case

a single throwable usually isn't proof of hacks

they can just get lucky

[neat wyvern]

Or she is either ghosting

[manic oriole]

that is also a possibility

[neat wyvern]

If that guy was in the vents I would use third person to see if someone is in there

[manic oriole]

if another mad sus clip comes out in the near future then theyre prob hacking or ghosting

[manic oriole]

sometimes theyre standing right at the vent waiting for u to do that

I never even approach the vents unless im throwabling into it

as murd

office sux btw

the vents are mad annoying

[paper tendon]

In third-person your reaction time is longer

[neat wyvern]

It does!

[manic oriole]

only when going around corners

but u can corner peak with 3rd person

[neat wyvern]

Yes but it's worth knowing if you want to survive

[paper tendon]

Or you are ghosting... Then u are a # but u survive longer😂

[manic oriole]

u could also be cheating tho

by that logic

[serene marsh]

bc they might be using murder tool

[manic oriole]

u were going one way saw them through the wall and went the other way

[neat wyvern]

That's what I'm thinking, because in my previous games she was also with a friend

[manic oriole]

im saying its sus but not definitive proof of cheating

[sterile forum]

Ok that’s a sus clip ngl but pretty sure because I heard a coin get collected at vents

[neat wyvern]

I can't see that as a coincidence and more like an x-ray

[manic oriole]

thats not how proof works

I had someone join my call and tell me u smell

doesnt mean its real

[serene marsh]

what now

[manic oriole]

anyways its impossible to be certain from that clip alone so if u have any more clips thats great if u see them save the replay and check it otherwise dw about it

[paper tendon]

Well... Police works same... If you tell them you stole something they do not need other proofs...

[sterile forum]

I don’t rlly remember that game so like

[neat wyvern]

Coin never spawns in the vents...

[manic oriole]

if theyre not hacking in future games then problem solved anyways

[neat wyvern]

That's only warehouse

[manic oriole]

I think she meant when he was going to vents

[sterile forum]

I ment grass area smh

[fervent ginkgo]

at not in

[paper tendon]

Sure...

[manic oriole]

I think they mean this coin

and u could prob hear it from elevators ngl

sound is mad buggy rn

[sterile forum]

Also tbf other one kinda sus for esp to knowing what side of vent I was coming from all 4 times I did so like sometimes just some sus moments

[manic oriole]

and it is around that time when they turn around

[paper tendon]

But i dont think you can hear the direction

[manic oriole]

u can with headphones

[sterile forum]

Who doesn’t wear headphones tho lol

[neat wyvern]

I use airpods

[manic oriole]

and also it has to be a left/right direction and theres nothing to the left there so obv its coming from the green room

[manic oriole]

me -_-

i judge by closeness

and knowing the coin spots

but sometimes I get betrayed by sound glitch

[sterile forum]

It sounded like not from main area so I assume was grass or outside grass area and just in case vent I threw throwable bro

Not that deep lol

[manic oriole]

also ya she turns around IMMEDIATELY after bro grabs a coin I think her explanation is at least plausable enough to forestall any hackusations

[serene marsh]

perfect solution: everyone start hacking

[neat wyvern]

I ain't on minecraft rn lol

[manic oriole]

that coin is def hearable

[manic oriole]

[sterile forum]

Idk why u defending me but ty ig lol

[paper tendon]

Well... Its just to be on the safe side if someone is hacking in ur game...

[manic oriole]

I love catching cheaters and defending people who might not be

also dw about it if it was more sus I wouldnt be on ur side at all

[sterile forum]

Yes let’s ban everyone who has a sus moment Yk

[manic oriole]

who are u?

do I know u

[paper tendon]

I am hunting down inapropriate skins... I got over 120 players banned on different servers...Mostly on The Hive and Lifeboat...

[manic oriole]

W

[sterile forum]

Nice

[paper tendon]

Its pretty fun actually

[neat wyvern]

How did you bypass a blacklisted word lol

[paper tendon]

But some of them seem to hate me...

[paper tendon]

I know how to........

Just look into the Blacklist i guess😂

Can you look in the Blacklist?

[neat wyvern]

It's not public

[paper tendon]

Cause that would be fun

Am i the only one who is german?

[manic oriole]

yes, ur the only german in the whole world

sorry that I'm the one who has to inform you

[paper tendon]

Haha... I meant from us...

[manic oriole]

oh

[paper tendon]

Dont worry... beeing stupid must be hard for you... Oh, wait.. sorry that I'm the one who has to inform you...

[manic oriole]

💀

why'd u get so aggressive all of a sudden

[sterile forum]

Idk he came out on me too lol

Prob bad mood

I saw that….

[manic oriole]

u saw what

[paper tendon]

Hmm... My last text got ... got erased

[sterile forum]

he sent a msg and instant deleted it

[manic oriole]

oh

seems like a skill issue

[dapper cloud]

message filter just delete it

[paper tendon]

My access to a website doesnt work and the helpcenter was useless

[neat wyvern]

Do it again

[paper tendon]

And thats why i got kind of annoyed...

[manic oriole]

u keep putting dots

[paper tendon]

So... Now its ok for the "filter"

[manic oriole]

are u speaking in braille or smth

[paper tendon]

Yeah sorry... I just really like them. I am a bit weird when writting messages (because of the dots...).

[manic oriole]

oh

put emojis instead

become a stealthyninja clone

emojis after every sentence

[neat wyvern]

Do you love stealthyninja

[paper tendon]

Really?

That sounds a bit ridicoulus