thats always what you want
#👀・hide-and-seek
glacial cedar
proud tendon
So basically, a few more months and I'll hit it
If I actually played a lot in January my stats would be better but it's whatever
glacial cedar
tbh focus on learning all the maps, and getting quick routes for each of them, then your KPG should go up
proud tendon
And also avoid playing games with seekers that are in the all time lb
As I'm barely getting kills in those
(I try to manage at least 1-3 kills if I'm lucky, one time I got none)
glacial cedar
me personally i don't reque any servers, but some people see it differently
even if im guaranteed to get a little amount of kills
proud tendon
Tbh I requeue for different reasons, those being maps I don't want/just don't wanna play, getting a runner I don't like to play against, getting in a lobby with a seeker main squad (sometimes I still play those without req), or just getting in a lobby with a seeker main I played with the other match
glacial cedar
what maps do u know
proud tendon
Granted probably not all reasons, but these ones I remember 
proud tendon
what maps do u know
Plasma, Hospital, Harvest, Town Square, Kingston, Hacienda, Goldrush, some sunset, some tala, I knew most of Chime before almost forgetting all of it (I still remember a little bit of it) and some construction
Other maps I didn't name either I just forgot all, don't remember or just dc about them (besides tuscany for how it looks. Basically why I even like it)
Nexus I forgot to name, as I actually forgot it existed, but I know most of it as well
glacial cedar
Plasma, Hospital, Harvest, Town Square, Kingston, Hacienda, Goldrush, some sunse...
finish learning tala and the other maps, then i'd recommend learning easier maps such as office, and chime, then later on move to harder maps
i can help you learn maps if u want
might have to take this offer
proud tendon
I also forgot office, that I know most of as well
proud tendon
i can help you learn maps if u want
How about start with Tala then
glacial cedar
yes
storm mirage
Tuscany is so fun
It’s such a good map
We need more seeker maps like Tuscany and more runner maps like Tropica
marsh tulip
hi
glacial cedar
Tuscany is so fun
this just isn't true
harsh marten
this just isn't true
it really is
harsh marten
We need more seeker maps like Tuscany and more runner maps like Tropica
tropica my beloved
proud tendon
it really is
It's only more fun than ts, which really is low
harsh marten
It's only more fun than ts, which really is low
ts is absolute garbo you can not compare it to any other maps
proud tendon
True
harsh marten
tuscany is fun tho
proud tendon
Grav is only slightly better than gw
proud tendon
To me brig is in the middle of grav and gw, and ctf is under brig but above gw
harsh marten
id say i love mm more than grav rn
proud tendon
Mm is probably in my top 5-6
harsh marten
i like mm for the game itself not the comm, the comm is horrendous
proud tendon
What's it like compared to sw?
harsh marten
both are just as bad
gentle wasp
both are just as bad
why is bro a they/them
glacial cedar
its fun to seek
it feels very repetetive, just like a filler map the devs added
proud tendon
I feel that way with facility
proud tendon
it feels very repetetive, just like a filler map the devs added
This was the reason for the lag strike last night btw
(Me just clip recording this)
glacial cedar
lag demon
proud tendon
I probably could've won the chase too if I didn't do this
glacial cedar
mhm
vapid flume
poop man hns?
gentle wasp
This was the reason for the lag strike last night btw
that texture pack is awful
gray slate
gw is indeed better than bw
I would disagree
proud tendon
Tala is starting to look a little more easier per day
proper otter
I just lost a 9-kill game 😭
storm mirage
I've lost a 14 kill game
cobalt otter
Did China town got removed?
storm mirage
yea
cobalt otter
Bruh why it was my favorite 😭
snow sierra
glacial cedar
@pliant robin gg's btw, even though the randoms kept taking the kill 😭
pliant robin
Everyones been getting worse and worse in terms of not even trying to put any effort in chasing or just spamming like its a league
proper otter
alt username of all time 😭
exotic wave
Did China town got removed?
Nooo its My Favorite Map
cobalt otter
Same
storm mirage
Yea in the changelog they said they were removing it
It might not be completely rolled out
midnight halo
Yea in the changelog they said they were removing it
thats the only map i know ☠️
storm mirage
thats the only map i know ☠️
(it was a joke)
proud tendon
I don't understand why some seekers just hit you with their fist, but once the 3rd minute comes and another is picked, only then they use the sword 
storm mirage
I don't understand why some seekers just hit you with their fist, but once the 3...
they wanna waste time
they dont like seeker mains
fresh ruin
cant play any more, winrate perfect #921324935568318504 message
stiff latch
hide and seek
inland tulip
It might not be completely rolled out
They’re removing China Town???
When cuz I just played on in 2 mins ago
empty jetty
I can’t stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣
sweet patrol
Yea in the changelog they said they were removing it
why are they removing Chinatown
gentle wasp
about time they remove that awful map chinatown
graceful gale
I can’t stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣
🔥🔥🔥
exotic wave
how to fix it?
main kettle
how to fix it?
Idk. But I got that too a couple of times. I kept trying trying until I finally got in
storm mirage
how to fix it?
lavish stump
inland tulip
@mighty flame Please add 25 levels so we can have an even Lvl 100 and so there’s more stuff to grind for 🙏🏼
(No rush just in one of the next updates) 🙂
storm mirage
No ty just add more good maps
proud tendon
Maybe running isn't for me, got me stressing for no reason
storm mirage
rip
yea if u want easy games stick with seeking
construction is booty but facility, boardwalk, and harborstead aren't terrible (just on the lower side of mid) and tuscany is good and tropica is GOATED
also just bc sweats like it doesn't mean its good, they only vote small maps for lb wins which doesn't lead to fun games
proud tendon
Depends if the new new maps are fun or not
misty void
😄
eager roost
No ty just add more good maps
we need prestige 🔥
prestige on this gamemode would be fire
along with an additional LTM and a micro hub
eager roost
easiest gamemode for leveling
lvl 600 speedrun in only 4 months should be light work 🔥 🔥
already doing that for sw rn lol
exotic wave
proud tendon
prestige on this gamemode would be fire
That's what I'm talking about
But they called me crazy
ivory nest
west cargo
proud tendon
Are you thinking they already got level 65 in only 70 games?
storm mirage
we need prestige 🔥
absolutely not
eager roost
absolutely not
prestige 5 in hide is at least better than prestige 5 in sky
storm mirage
no bc sky is already competitive so its fine
hide and seek is supposed to be chill
just give block levels instead 🙏
eager roost
no bc sky is already competitive so its fine
what about mm
i dont think mm is a comp game
glacial cedar
hide and seek is supposed to be chill
It really isn’t tho
storm mirage
It really isn’t tho
ur elementary school musta been diff from mine 
our hide and seek games were always fun and chill
storm mirage
im happy i maxed it
w
eager roost
hide chill, except when people go outside the map
eager roost
yeah ig
storm mirage
you'd see more sweat seeker parties and more people would snipe them with hacks on
sw is already seeing way more closeters
eager roost
you'd see more sweat seeker parties and more people would snipe them with hacks ...
i grinded hide a bit this month with menacingemu the amount of fans he got is crazy
storm mirage
idk how seeker parties are fun for anyone
the only enjoyment value is the company and thats it
eager roost
true
storm mirage
but at the same time hacking bc u dont like someone's playstyle is a bit odd
eager roost
eh i just grinded some wins, since i want top 100 on everything
storm mirage
if I was gunna snipe itd be a full runner party queueing for the seeker mains
main kettle
Hello
storm mirage
runner parties r so fun
eager roost
ive met a bunch of them lol
storm mirage
w
eager roost
yeah luckily im done with hide for now
skywars grind eliminated hide and seek
but im returning once i max
main kettle
yeah luckily im done with hide for now
Oh hey ur maxed in every game right.
eager roost
not anymore 😔 bc of the skywars update
main kettle
oh
main kettle
ok
glacial cedar
runner parties r so fun
Not when you’re a seeker main 😒
eager roost
im gonna seek for few months then i will become a runner 😼
glacial cedar
Have fun 🙏
eager roost
e
glacial cedar
That’s gonna take a while
glacial cedar
I have 8k and I’m like 89th
eager roost
not longer than grinding 466 skywars level tho ☠️
glacial cedar
Imagine
Couldn’t bother playing sky that long
I can’t go 3 games without a cheater
glacial cedar
Have fun
eager roost
im prolly gonna hit lb
glacial cedar
im prolly gonna hit lb
Most definitely if you max
eager roost
yeah
proud tendon
Yappers
eager roost
meowers
glacial cedar
It’s kinda like mm, if you max it your basically guaranteed top 200 oat
eager roost
LOL
u wont see me for months in hide
u will probably see me in 5-4 months
if i ever maxed sky
proud tendon
Max mm
proud tendon
How long it take
eager roost
1 year
i been grinding 3 hours a day tho
rn im kinda no lifing sky 😭
just bc i dont want to deal with cheaters in the summer
proud tendon
Hmm
eager roost
yes thats not me
eager roost
e
frigid imp
we need prestige 🔥
real
storm mirage
Not when you’re a seeker main 😒
just be a runner main its better
glacial cedar
Nope
proud tendon
When your heart is racing bad? It's not better
median halo
you'd see more sweat seeker parties and more people would snipe them with hacks ...
as much as i like the idea of prestige in hide n seek, i agree with u on that lmao
frigid imp
just be a runner main its better
❌
glacial cedar
When your heart is racing bad? It's not better
That’s not really the problem, just as a seeker main you both have to seek and chase, slowly learning both the seeking spots and runner routes, while as a runner you only learn the runner routes
proud tendon
It's a personal problem I meant as, I can't handle a semi good/close chase without my heart going crazy and making me shake, so I just stick to seeker
glacial cedar
I have never run before and I catch most runners with ease
glacial cedar
It's a personal problem I meant as, I can't handle a semi good/close chase witho...
I understand that
storm mirage
That’s not really the problem, just as a seeker main you both have to seek and c...
running is less about learning and more about in-the-moment creativity and skill
good running is much harder than good seeking
proud tendon
The closest thing seeker did to me was be annoyed, then again I'm just bad
storm mirage
bad seeking is harder than bad running tho
glacial cedar
running is less about learning and more about in-the-moment creativity and skill
Chasing could be considered the same though?
storm mirage
Chasing could be considered the same though?
no creativity no intensity
u just follow them and smack them a few times
glacial cedar
You have to adapt to the runner’s creativity or you’ll lose them
storm mirage
thats not creativity
and no not really u can just cut the corners and wait for a seeker to be in front of them
proud tendon
Pretty much just learn their movements imo
glacial cedar
thats other runners?
most runners ive seen have 0 creativity, taking the exact same routes over and over doesn't seem too creative
proud tendon
Sounds like TS to me
glacial cedar
seekers use creativity to make their routes faster and more efficient
runners use their creativity to run different routes (rarely) and escape the seekers
storm mirage
most runners ive seen have 0 creativity, taking the exact same routes over and o...
those are the bad ones
they just wanna live they dont care about fun
its why I think sumoing runners is so fun, they get to show their creativity and try things without risking dying immediately
storm mirage
w
sumoing runners 🥰
I got a lv 75 to yell at me for sumoing them once that was funny
storm mirage
punching runners to death
ye thats what I mean
sumoing = punching till they explode
proud tendon
Tala is special in a way tbh
glacial cedar
top 25 🤗
sharp furnace
exotic wave
Are you thinking they already got level 65 in only 70 games?
Its monthly not Overall
More 10 lv
proud tendon
That's why I was gonna wait for them to answer, to say it's monthly not overall, not right after
velvet verge
@main kettle ??
proud tendon
What bro do
glacial cedar
people that do that make me unhappy 😠
exotic wave
people that do that make me unhappy 😠
The person is too smart
proud tendon
people that do that make me unhappy 😠
Walrus:
main kettle
<@1058957924799623188> ??
?
storm mirage
I didn't realize kbm players could be that bad
midnight halo
I didn't realize kbm players could be that bad
hes using murd tool 😭 😭
i can see that
i know
you know thats against the rules right 😭
exotic wave
you know thats against the rules right 😭
yes
midnight halo
🤦♂️
exotic wave
Why do u do it then?
I really like it but it's at risk of getting a ban
storm mirage
I really like it but it's at risk of getting a ban
u like to hack?
why?
why not just be good
exotic wave
I won't use hack anymore
storm mirage
I won't use hack anymore
🙏
gentle wasp
@pliant robin you are down bad for playing with diana
proud plaza
surprised you didn’t q w us ain’t gon lie
gentle wasp
i dont dodge
gentle wasp
💀
gentle wasp
i wasnt even sniping, i was playing
gentle wasp
i didnt even know you was on?
proud plaza
I js got in your game
gentle wasp
but now i do
proud plaza
Boutta get off soon anyway
like maybe half an hour
but yeah js don’t bother vortex man
Only crusader is friends w her
Ight?
gentle wasp
i can bother who i want thankyou
proud plaza
I mean ik how to rq mahn
gentle wasp
i think you are
gentle wasp
you left before
pliant robin
I swear, you’ll argue with me over the most random crap just so you don’t have to admit you lost that last banter. You know you did. Suck it up bro
pliant robin
I'm not even pl and I didn't even let that second rate in the party
gentle wasp
I'm not even pl and I didn't even let that second rate in the party
have you all got off
pliant robin
No
pliant robin
They went to sky apparently .
pliant robin
Mega
proud plaza
oh ight I see how it is
Yall legit told me to rq
So I did I even went to a diff game since apparently yall didn’t want him innit
n then you js go n tell the guy where we all are lol
das crazy
then after one round everybody gets off like
lol idk anymore
gentle wasp
lol idk anymore
look, i know your scared
but why would we go for horrid, when hes a solo
proud plaza
ight bud I ain’t scared
gentle wasp
when your whole party left him
proud plaza
If I was alone I would play in y’all’s games
pliant robin
So I did I even went to a diff game since apparently yall didn’t want him innit
I never said to req that was Fitneppsu or something
proud plaza
Hell nah he left us
pliant robin
Yeah I left because I aint dealing with pvp
proud plaza
Yeah but I could kinda tell nobody else wanted to play w him
pliant robin
and I aint in the mood
proud plaza
But you didn’t have to snitch where we were
gentle wasp
But you didn’t have to snitch where we were
but you wasnt gonna tell us
you said you wanted fun
proud plaza
yeah I wasn’t
So das why when vortex did I was like cmon man
but yeah if I was solo or I’m inna party w ppl that don’t really care then heck yeah I’ll stay in yo games
but since I had a few ppl that wanted me to rq n stuff I did
gentle wasp
but since I had a few ppl that wanted me to rq n stuff I did
does that mean im scary
proud plaza
sure wtv you wanna think
I honestly don’t care
but I like to be a decent ok
*pl
so when ppl tell me to do sum that’s what I end up doing
gentle wasp
I’m js nice to em bc why not
who told you to q
proud plaza
fitsnipedu
gentle wasp
who that
proud plaza
Jackonfire mighta too
pliant robin
Yeah pretty sure he only said that bc Vexinly rejoined the party no one else said to req
gentle wasp
whos vexinly
proud plaza
Someone
that we friends w
But she was already in the game when he said to rq tho
I saw her afk at spawn
Pretty sure at least
gentle wasp
so your party is full of randoms?
apart from the almighty person who made running HRD
pliant robin
I don't remember saying I 'made' it, there's a difference between being the first runner main to a game and creating the Sprint + Jump + Forward button
gentle wasp
I don't remember saying I 'made' it, there's a difference between being the firs...
pretty sure you said you made running in hurricane discord
but if you say so
proud plaza
but yeah man w that being said I don’t wanna start any drama here, YESSS I rqed call me scared or whatever but I honestly saw my friend say “rq” so I did regardless if it was bc you were innit or not
n again vortex is NOT obsessed w Diana in any way, like I said crusadertaco was the only person in the party friends w her
gentle wasp
@inland tulip who are you?
gentle wasp
n again vortex is NOT obsessed w Diana in any way, like I said crusadertaco was ...
you do realise, we moved away from this convo
hidden kiln
bro doesnt know how to comma
gentle wasp
I mean yuh but js felt the need to say it
i didnt read it tbh
gentle wasp
100% yappers bro
says you on about china town like yesterday
gentle wasp
swear you was involved in the china town thing
proud tendon
When I joking about it being a visual bug?
gentle wasp
idk?
proud tendon
gentle wasp
either way, you are awful
proud tendon
At the game? True
gentle wasp
so true
fleet pivot
Guys can someone explain
When your in hide and seek and you requeue your stuck with the leaves skin
I even went in a random game
faint niche
gentle wasp
Best spot!?
every main seeker will know this, random ones wont
mild marlin
Wanna play Hide and Bridge?
storm mirage
Best spot!?
It’s very good yea
I prefer the parkour spots tho they’re better vs the seeker mains
misty void
Oh hello Dybala namu in here?
night tulip
nah he’s just better bro
proud tendon
He just has 100 million power
main kettle
hello
proud plaza
yoooo das smart to show everyone here so they can see it
genius
lol im playin but yeah I seen that one
exotic wave
Seekers its afk. seeker killed 6!!!
proud tendon
lol im playin but yeah I seen that one
That's why when I find every hiding spot possible in hns, ima make a yt video about it 
/j
storm mirage
Seekers its afk. seeker killed 6!!!
Kill non afk seekers it’s more fun
echo garden
i've seen this guy before, js q dodge them, they're always outside maps
glacial cedar
love it when trash runners vote ts but proceed to reque during the game anyways
(proto opp)
glacial cedar
that same game diana stared me in the eye and requed too
like
hive could you put some restrictions on this?
pliant robin
(proto opp)
Proto flop
storm mirage
Proto mop
proud plaza
proto BOP
glacial cedar
Proto plop
pliant robin
Proto oops
proud tendon
hive could you put some restrictions on this?
To reque? Guess that's fair depending on the way the person did
pliant robin
Proto stop
proud tendon
Bros not even hiding it
gentle wasp
interesting proto glaze in the chat
glacial cedar
interesting proto glaze in the chat
Proto drop
exotic wave
Proto Unknown
glacial cedar
Proto hop
austere blaze
Proto crop
mystic siren
i maxed out hide & seek once and got to level 50 but when they raised the level cap i never really played again
exotic wave
best spot
pliant robin
Proto slop
Any seeker could take a lunch break and still catch him before he figures out how to jump
gentle wasp
Is retiring from hns to go to music maker good? Or do half and half?
nobody listening to that
proud tendon
Hating day 1, also made me lose my login streak
gentle wasp
Hating day 1, also made me lose my login streak
ye im a hater, i dont like americans 
proud tendon
Close enough
lyric rivet
Its called lag
slate sphinx
How do they manage to do that 😦
wise crane
Eyy anyone in for a game?
gentle fable
exotic wave
smoky forge
Leaves are the best
glacial cedar
Leaves are the best
Crafting tables and bookshelves 🔛🔝
proud tendon
Crafting tables and bookshelves 🔛🔝
True
proud plaza
Im lvl 1000
storm mirage
did they barrier the thing across from u?
clever magnet
Good not best
exotic wave
glacial cedar
freest kill
proud tendon
Exposing spots in here is crazy
exotic wave
patent stag
Nah to time to retire if I'm missing this
hidden kiln
😔
patent stag
I mean i really didn't check that area my friend did but still
We should not be losing to that
remote wraith
Nah to time to retire if I'm missing this
🙏😭
patent stag
Like who would look there if u r looking for a mossy cobblestone
harsh marten
Nah to time to retire if I'm missing this
wow
glacial cedar
Nah to time to retire if I'm missing this
Top 1 player btw 🥀🥀
proud plaza
looking for party
region: NA
Gamemode: any mode except bedwars or skywars
VC REQUIRED
patent stag
Ye but i didn't cheak that area but the only time i did was js passing through bc was looking for that block in a mossy cobblestone spot
glacial cedar
You still check every spot anyways
patent stag
Ye
glacial cedar
Can’t believe you’re our top 1 still not knowing this
patent stag
I Don't know this?
glacial cedar
Obviously not cuz u lost to it
patent stag
Again i didn't check that area
Was checking mossy cobblestone spots n barn/some other houses
patent stag
Ye bc I'm definitely solo
glacial cedar
With just malice you should be doing better than 4 kill/game
Actually it’s a high 3
glacial cedar
Who
patent stag
MenacingEmu
glacial cedar
That’s it?
glacial cedar
Did you play ANY hard maps in that party 😭🙏
patent stag
I'm rlly thinking abt it
glacial cedar
Do it
patent stag
Alright
proud tendon
Or u
pliant robin
Unless with vortex or malice
Bro he needs to stop playing with the second rates 😭 They really just keep voting the same boring maps and I just run to make it fair games because its easy to juke unless I get hard camped by one of them lmao
glacial cedar
Bro he needs to stop playing with the second rates 😭 They really just keep voti...
That’s why I asked if he played any hard maps
Cuz all three of those names scream easy maps
Emu, U8H and idk Uijen
pliant robin
Kingston, Prip and Hospital
rarely Goldrush
patent stag
Bro
pliant robin
Thats why I run in the parties because ain't no way I'm letting such arbitrary actions happen 😭 and also doesn't matter if I could seek all the kills getting taken I even suggested to just duo with soap the first time he got back into grinding but then he just straight up went to partying
glacial cedar
Thats why I run in the parties because ain't no way I'm letting such arbitrary a...
Lmao
Ur too good for him trust
pliant robin
I mean sure I get camped because apparently its a seeker mains meta to have people think camping or constant cut offs / anticipation is skill rather than effort
Soap and Safijiiva are like the only 2 people who are good at actually chasing and its more of fair play
glacial cedar
Solid
pliant robin
Then I feel like I don't even get much credit as a runner because right after losing my pc I had to get used to console all over again
I think I ended up lasting like 2 minutes or something like that against froste and safijiiva on town square
I mean that might sound simple but they both have very contrasting playstyles and I got no kind of respect for that, its not winning sure but I would've if I didn't lose my cool 😭
Town Square is just too awful of a map and yet I somehow pulled off long enough
crystal eagle
this gamemode is just a feverdream
glacial cedar
Then I feel like I don't even get much credit as a runner because right after lo...
I had someone yesterday in ts that circles 90% of the game, and there was another runner after that so I lost 🙏
pliant robin
Yeah it's only a problem if you have to deal with a runner on your own, because if thats the case they may as well be having go kart around the whole map
It's a totally different story having constant pressure on me then having someone just waiting like a predator trying to anticipate me thats way worse to live through
glacial cedar
In those situations I be praying for those random seekers to intervene
pliant robin
Yeah thats why I don't like the map, the times I seek it and deal with runner mains its either 2 runners helping each other and being irritating or a runner with 0 substance movement and picking repetitive routes
glacial cedar
Fr
The only time ts gets voted is when an ass runner main is in my game, and if you’re some of them you just reque anyways after the map gets voted (yy22kk) (Proto opp)
pliant robin
Some runner mains literally sabatoge the whole image of skilled running and not even being strategic about it
But thats just this game I guess and its the same for seeker mains, everyone plays for wins, nothing more nothing less, its like competition is non existent, just leaderboard wins
glacial cedar
People just starting will see this game as chill and laid back, but if you really look at the community it’s 90% unskilled randoms trying to get wins in any means possible
pliant robin
It was in fact more of a chill and laid back gamemode in 2018-2019
A lot of the people who mained it actually respected others, only notable person from the era is SeekXDstroy since he the reason I even got into this game to begin with
pliant robin
Yeah he quit a while after the level 50 update
glacial cedar
Unc
pliant robin
Those times were better times because it wasn't even "any means necessary" for wins, there was actually competiton just out of enjoyment, there were like so many people that I had respect for since then
But a lot of those people just dippped
crystal eagle
you could get rid of seeking marathons by changing the win-condition for seekers to always loose, so that only surviving hiders win, otherwise this game will always be the way it is, literally was the same on java back in the day
glacial cedar
you could get rid of seeking marathons by changing the win-condition for seekers...
That wouldn’t really make sense tho, since if you died accidentally but contributed to winning as a seeker I don’t see the point in still losing
crystal eagle
neither does it make sense that you can sui as a last hider and still win
when roles can change mid-game, a lot doesnt make sense
crystal eagle
That wouldn’t really make sense tho, since if you died accidentally but contribu...
also wdym accidentally, if youre asigned the role of a hider and you fail to hide, its only logical to give you a loss
glacial cedar
neither does it make sense that you can sui as a last hider and still win
Last hider will never win unless he doesn’t get killed so I don’t see your point
glacial cedar
also wdym accidentally, if youre asigned the role of a hider and you fail to hid...
Getting purposely killed is being a seeker main, being accidentally killed is hiding yet getting unlucky and your spot is found, you aren’t purposely trying to be a seeker in that situation
Yet you can still contribute to that win for the seekers
My saying would be you need at least 1 hider kill for the win to be given to you
As a seeker
pliant robin
Yeah, right now hiders win if they live and seekers lose
If hiders are all found, everyone thats found all win as seekers
glacial cedar
Exactly, there is no point in changing that either, you Java folks need to stop reminiscing in the past and realize that this game is how it is
crystal eagle
hey im not talking about java, i guess at the end of the day i find it really funny how 1/3rd of the lobby suis at the start and rounds take up 40s 🤷♀️
not saying my idea is the best, just any idea to bring this game back to being a little hider friendly
glacial cedar
you could get rid of seeking marathons by changing the win-condition for seekers...
^
glacial cedar
not saying my idea is the best, just any idea to bring this game back to being a...
It already is, just lots of seeker mains like to be more active, there are probably 5x the runners than seekers
glacial cedar
i said it was the same, ur point?
U mentioned it
crystal eagle
without any weight
pliant robin
The problem with people in this game is they play for cheap wins.
It's not like it was in the past for us where it was about skill-based competiton when there was never a public leaderboard
glacial cedar
Removing lb probably would be the best option
pliant robin
Them adding a leaderboard to the game ruined the whole point of playing it at all making it seem like a league to get wins
crystal eagle
The problem with people in this game is they play for cheap wins.
It's not like...
im just confused because im literally on ur side with it
pliant robin
Removing lb probably would be the best option
Agree
pliant robin
im just confused because im literally on ur side with it
Yeah no I'm not arguing but I just didn't get the logic behind seekers should always lose
If they get rid of the leaderboard or create a seperate gamemode for actual people who like movement based matches it would fix the game
And if they made a seperate game it would seperate the game between people like me and those who like traditional seeking
crystal eagle
deaths also ("always") loose in dr, its no big deal
i like manx's idea of a wincondition like 4kills or smth
storm mirage
i hate when that happens
pliant robin
deaths also ("always") loose in dr, its no big deal
I mean, in deathrun and hide and seek are pretty much different, I mean see it from my perspective, the death exist purely to make it harder for runners to make it to the end goal, death have no end goal of their own
but for hide and seek there is an end goal for seekers, if they find all the hiders before time runs out they win, if they can't find hiders or any way to win they are nothing other than losers
crystal eagle
deaths main goal in theory is to stop everyone from finishing the map
which would be possible if it wasnt for runner sweats (like me) who run these maps inside out
granted not on every map
i see your point ofc
cosmic python
deaths also ("always") loose in dr, its no big deal
I mean if the deaths stop a certain amount of runners don’t they get credit for a win?
crystal eagle
was only added recently to be fair, and its still no easy task to finish
pliant robin
which would be possible if it wasnt for runner sweats (like me) who run these ma...
Yeah, I mean if they made it so seekers always lose, then seekers exist just to give hiders something to run from then the game would have to be changed entirely 😭
Yes the game is weirdly complex and multi layered of interesting people but its kind of on Hive for not recognizing how much of a meta running already is in the game
So that's why id feel better if they made a seperate gamemode for that purpose, which would actually be somewhat fair for everyone, removes all the drama this game already has
And not to mention it's also why I get into building and stuff because I create minigames and a bunch of other things that work different than a lot seen on the hive, I have a yt showing one that I made where I created a map for the purpose of movement based matches just because its more fair and enjoyable especially for a lot of the people I run in parties for runner parties with
crystal eagle
similar as playing death is great for leveling up, seeking is too, its a fair trade imo
at the end of the day, they arent gonna change anything anyway, its just sometimes fun to ponder about ^^
and yeah drama dont tell me about it lol
what they seriously could do is add some more maps tho
completely new or ripped from hive, idc just something
do they even accept community maps?
pliant robin
do they even accept community maps?
I would sure love if they did but I was told they don't... I literally created one at one point a year or two ago that had that kind of quality 😭 All to realize that they don't accept such
it's stupid as hell so I kind of just build for my own and for a lot of the friends I have, I don't wanna be involved with the Hive, but yes I agree, they should add more new maps
clever magnet
Kingston, Prip and Hospital
rarely Goldrush
Funny enough there's there's a spot they don't know on prip
pliant robin
Yeah same for people that spam kingston and other easy maps, like almost close to 3 or so out of 20 games in an hour theres a few missed spots they overlook
gritty lintel
why did it put me in the hub but still as an anvil
pliant robin
the negatives of being overly reliant on one big party rather than actual competent seekers (that don't esp or use cheats for hns)
clever magnet
I'm ass as a seeker cuz I just play hider basically, tho I win, miss the Java where I can be my old goat the enchanting table
patent stag
Especially since scoopes is our top 1
No remove me in general
pliant robin
soap is just nerfed
not prime 2019 scoopes anymore wheres the quiet guy who only ever said "ok" all the time 😭🙏
proud tendon
Soup needs a comeback
pliant robin
Nah he don't need to come back he needs to fall back ✅
proud tendon
Fall back into retirement 
woven crescent
Funny enough there's there's a spot they don't know on prip
Hmm
clever magnet
Ain't telling ya dw
patent stag
😭
lyric rivet
Looks fun...
exotic wave
They also have a walkhack😭
fresh ruin
your ping is crazy
exotic wave
wraith seal
your ping is crazy
Probably why they play hide and seek
storm mirage
fr
hidden kiln
nice
echo garden
wait, the second game on pripyat, i hv the replay. didn't u help smb glitch out the map? 😭
fresh ruin
Probably why they play hide and seek
yea lol
fresh ruin
nicee
proud tendon
I barely know boardwalk, so it's kinda bad for me
glacial cedar
no excuses
glacial cedar
you can't get voted as a seeker though?
hive really needs to make a punishment for requing, only 10 kills available is wild
storm mirage
requing boardwalk is a no-go
requeueing any map as a seeker is depressing
if u dont wanna seek the map just run
ez
glacial cedar
then the same standards should apply to runners
actually harsher standards cuz running a map is 100x easier than seeking it
storm mirage
Winning as a seeker is way easier than winning as a runner even on the runner maps
Except Tropica bc I can’t speak to seeking Tropica
proud tendon
no excuses
If I were to seek a map I didn't know, I'd be guessing almost all the time (besides for some spots as I know some stuff)
glacial cedar
Winning as a seeker is way easier than winning as a runner even on the runner ma...
no it is not
what skill base are you refering to?
glacial cedar
If I were to seek a map I didn't know, I'd be guessing almost all the time (besi...
its called learning the map bucko
proud tendon
Guessing at first
proud tendon
I dont
storm mirage
what skill base are you refering to?
I’m saying no requeueing getting a consistently good winrate
Seeking is harder to learn but waaaaay easier to win doing
glacial cedar
Seeking is harder to learn but waaaaay easier to win doing
i'd consider it very easy to win as a runner, since you get good seeker mains rarely at that point it just becomes a skill issue
if you lose to other lobbies
because if we're being equal here a seeker main that knows a few maps to win consistantly is pretty decent, that means the runner in question would also be decent allowing him to escape those lobbies much easier
the amount of half-ass runners i see out shines the half-ass seekers i see by 10 to 1, so I'd say running is also easier basing it off the community
patent stag
you learn from your mistakes
I do
glacial cedar
not
patent stag
Excuse me?
glacial cedar
i spoke
patent stag
Yes
glacial cedar
truthfully
patent stag
Idk abt that
glacial cedar
prove it to me then
patent stag
That i learn from my mistakes?
glacial cedar
yes
patent stag
To recheck the map for the last block, even if it's not that type of block
glacial cedar
this u?
also another mistake u made was starting to grind this game, yet you haven't stopped permanently?
storm mirage
i'd consider it very easy to win as a runner, since you get good seeker mains ra...
In an npc lobby on a good map it’s easier to win as a runner than as a seeker yea but if u have even 2 intelligent people it’s WAAAY easier to win as a seeker
I play at night more than during the day so maybe I’m biased
I rarely get npc lobbies
glacial cedar
In an npc lobby on a good map it’s easier to win as a runner than as a seeker ye...
And what if there is 2 intelligent runners for the seeker?
They have to catch them plus seek the entire map
storm mirage
Then u can seek the whole map then other seekers accidentally cut off those runners
In that scenario the seeker has a massive advantage
Especially as u get better at the game
It’s only at low level where the runners have the advantage
glacial cedar
If the runners are intelligent they won’t get cut off without your help
storm mirage
They get cut off by the npcs just wandering around
quartz kelp
running is cringe
storm mirage
Sometimes u don’t have many options
glacial cedar
They get cut off by the npcs just wandering around
Those npcs barely know how to swing their swords
storm mirage
running is cringe
Wild spelling, it’s actually “seeking in parties”
storm mirage
Those npcs barely know how to swing their swords
Sometimes
Sometimes they get lucky and hit u and u gotta respect that and at least try to avoid them and that gets hard when ur a mid or better runner with a mid or better seeker behind u
glacial cedar
But you said the seeker would be seeking the map?
storm mirage
And if there are 2 or more smart people u better be way better than them
storm mirage
But you said the seeker would be seeking the map?
Ye so they find everyone first then chase the runners
14v2
glacial cedar
14v2
Wouldn’t that also apply to the beginning of the game tho?
2vs14
The odds are stacked against them
storm mirage
Wouldn’t that also apply to the beginning of the game tho?
At the beginning the runners have the advantage that’s why u don’t chase them at the beginning
glacial cedar
They really don’t if you know what your doing
storm mirage
Elaborate
glacial cedar
If you wait till the end as a half decent seeker your kill is just gonna get stolen
storm mirage
But u still get the win
glacial cedar
If you know how to chase it doesn’t become any different, just more people scattered around waiting to steal your kill
storm mirage
Even if ur kill gets stolen u still get the win
glacial cedar
But u still get the win
And what if the seeker takes forever to seek the map while both the runners are still thriving
It’s near impossible to win in that situation
And most runners just camp after the last minute to guarantee their win
So idk the standards ur setting for this
storm mirage
And what if the seeker takes forever to seek the map while both the runners are ...
That’s a low level seeker and in that case it’s runner favored
As I said earlier
glacial cedar
That’s a low level seeker and in that case it’s runner favored
Harbor? Construction?
You’re obviously just thinking about the tiny maps
storm mirage
I’m more talking sunset or harvest, tiny maps the runners r so dead u dont even gotta chase them the nons mob them and they die
glacial cedar
I’m more talking sunset or harvest, tiny maps the runners r so dead u dont even ...
If ur just targeting those runner killer maps then there’s no point in arguing
storm mirage
on like hospital for example I’ve had so many mobile randos just sit on the stairs and spam hit when I get close
I’m not talking small maps tho bc runners have no chance there
glacial cedar
on like hospital for example I’ve had so many mobile randos just sit on the stai...
And on harbor for example I’ve had runners avoid me but still run until I lose the game
storm mirage
Harbor is a bad example that map is campy as heck
glacial cedar
Exactly
storm mirage
That’s not a runner map nor a seeker map that’s a dodger map
glacial cedar
Eh
storm mirage
I’m talking the actual runner maps
glacial cedar
Runners can run on it
storm mirage
Runners can run on it
Ye but it more benefits camping and dodging over running
I dislike harbor bc of that
glacial cedar
Ye but it more benefits camping and dodging over running
Ig, still doesn’t change that seekers can seek and runners can run
glacial cedar
Ok?
storm mirage
but im also specifically not talking about tropica, town square, and harborstead i think those maps change the equation
tropica is imo super good for runners and ts and harbor r degen maps that prop up the mid runners way too much
storm mirage
I’d like to include all maps
thats fair
we can call it an average then
would that work for u
glacial cedar
Sure ig
storm mirage
"on average, its harder to win while running than while seeking at mid and high level"
glacial cedar
I still disagree
storm mirage
im not talking about when the runner dies and wins bc seekers win
if thats what ur talking about
glacial cedar
Ik
That’s not what I’m saying
Catching a runner the same skill level as you is more difficult than outrunning that seeker at the same level
storm mirage
I don't disagree with that at all
assuming ur by urself
once u start adding other seekers then that equation dramatically changes, and u start getting caught by people far worse than u
glacial cedar
once u start adding other seekers then that equation dramatically changes, and u...
Same with more runners
storm mirage
as an example, how many times has hrd died to mid players bc there were a bunch of them
storm mirage
Same with more runners
that just takes more time not necessarily more effort
but we're assuming ur playing solo for this
otherwise theres no argument, seeking in parties is way easier than running in parties
glacial cedar
as an example, how many times has hrd died to mid players bc there were a bunch ...
Quite a few times, but some of those times I’ve caught him
glacial cedar
but we're assuming ur playing solo for this
I’m saying overall
storm mirage
really?
storm mirage
we can test it
glacial cedar
Sure
storm mirage
seek 100 games, hide 100 games, run 100 games
see how many of each u win
and dont throw
I'll accept whatever the results of that are
bc ur respectable my good sir
glacial cedar
I’ll do it april
storm mirage
🔥
quartz kelp
seek 100 games, hide 100 games, run 100 games
the difference is that if you're a good seeker you can end the game in 2 mins
instead of 4:30 for the 2 other options
even if you're a good runner it will not speed up the game
- if you die and cant seek you lose
so seeking is just easier if you want fast wins
otherwise hide for slow wins
storm mirage
so seeking is just easier if you want fast wins
we're not asking about speed
we're specifically talking about wr
quartz kelp
wr is cringe
patent stag
I ain’t scoopes
..
patent stag
Nuh uh
fresh ruin
so seeking is just easier if you want fast wins
nah most games not all hiders get found
glacial cedar
nah most games not all hiders get found
have you ever seen a half decent seeker main?
quartz kelp
nah most games not all hiders get found
too rng
fresh ruin
sweat
quartz kelp
tala my beloved
fresh ruin
how do you know where eveyone is
glacial cedar
memory
quartz kelp
hacks they said it
glacial cedar
and practice
fresh ruin
i see
glacial cedar
hacks they said it
fr
fresh ruin
might be useful when I max this annoying gamemode
glacial cedar
crypt1c was onto something
glacial cedar
might be useful when I max this annoying gamemode
hiding is faster for maxing cuz of xp, its just quite boring
fresh ruin
hiding is faster for maxing cuz of xp, its just quite boring
yea
I'll just watch tv while I wait for taunt cooldown lol
glacial cedar
when i maxed it thats what i did
until i discovered lb's and stats, now im addicted 😭
glacial cedar
fr
fresh ruin
this gamemode is fun but the hiders run marathons its quite infuriating
glacial cedar
u just gotta get better with running tbh
maxing dr helped me with that, i wouldn't say thats the most viable option for everyone though
quartz kelp
this gamemode is fun but the hiders run marathons its quite infuriating
just dodge pripyat
fresh ruin
alr
fallow gale
Do you think it's the best place to hide?
lunar loom
Do you think it's the best place to hide?
It's the best one I know besides a solid 2-player hiding spot, but a lot of people know about it in my experience.
fresh ruin
Do you think it's the best place to hide?
prob easier to do the neo instead of the stair jump
storm mirage
Ts is my tip 3 maps of wanting deleted (other 2 are Chime and Tropica)
tropica is so good idk why u queue it
ivory nest
Ts is my tip 3 maps of wanting deleted (other 2 are Chime and Tropica)
no tropica stays, thanks
proud tendon
tropica is so good idk why u queue it
Because like
Is bad
median halo
tropica is fun once you memorize it, its just the runners🥲
spice edge
is 53 daily seeker kills gaming
harsh marten
Ts is my tip 3 maps of wanting deleted (other 2 are Chime and Tropica)
tropica and chime stays
remove china town instead
proud tendon
Ts, Chime and China town then
harsh marten
chime is nice
proud tendon
exactly, runner, which is something im not (great at ig)
storm mirage
u cant remove maps just bc they favor one method of playing, otherwise byebye kingston plasma and talavera
proud tendon
true
proud tendon
But also I just don't like tropica which is another reason why I'm naming it
proud tendon
that map is good for nothing and nobody
I got that map like 3 times in a row (due to a team voting it every time)
proud tendon
why not?
too big, although i guess same arguments to some other maps
If I were to actually list 3 maps, it would be ts, facility and China town/construction ig
ivory nest
why china town over town square?? ts is just a circle 
proud tendon
Ts is number 1 removal wdym?
storm mirage
China town is good construction is horrid and ts is boring
Facility isn’t bad tho it’s a low mid tier map
It’s about on the level of boardwalk
proud tendon
I'm naming facility over boardwalk due to the fact I can tolerate it more
Idk if I worded that right
ivory nest
Ts is number 1 removal wdym?
didnt see mb
glacial cedar
If I were to actually list 3 maps, it would be ts, facility and China town/const...
Town Square, China Town, and Pripyat are my top picks
proud tendon
Is like no map safe from being bad in some form?
proud tendon
It's fine ig, better than nexus
proud tendon
Everyone can agree that harvest is a goated map
What happened to the tala glaze?
glacial cedar
It’s fun to seek, lots of places to run and lots of places to hide, diversity for all playable types
glacial cedar
What happened to the tala glaze?
It’s seeker based
proud tendon
Fair
glacial cedar
Harvest is like the only map with those requirements met
proud tendon
Honestly, I'm a bad seeker. I somehow don't know plasma 100% still
glacial cedar
Maybe tropica depending on your seeker
proud tendon
I'm missing people somehow
glacial cedar
Honestly, I'm a bad seeker. I somehow don't know plasma 100% still <:NW_sobbruh:...
Lowkey remove plasma too, I find it quite boring to seek
proud tendon
Wouldn't it also be the fastest map to solo seek?
proud tendon
Think ima hop on tbh, need to understand some maps again
exotic wave
My favorite chime map😭
storm mirage
Everyone can agree that harvest is a goated map
🙏
storm mirage
Town Square, China Town, and Pripyat are my top picks
why china town 
and pripyat doesnt need to be removed just made bigger and have gray wool added
honest surge
Nah, prip need to go
proud tendon
Ykw, remove every current map and add fresh new ones
glacial cedar
All you man
proud tendon
Better than picking one or another
glacial cedar
why china town <:despair:1131243007581102080>
Bad map
Very repetitive and attracts mid runners
storm mirage
Very repetitive and attracts mid runners
the running/chasing is fine and hows it repetitive -_-
(im bad at chasing on that map)
(im so bad at fence parkour lol)
proud tendon
Fence parkour is fine once you understand it but at the same time, it wouldn't matter I think
glacial cedar
the running/chasing is fine and hows it repetitive -_-
Runners usually spam the lights/fences, and it’s just room after room checking
For seeking
storm mirage
For seeking
oh yea seeking is very repetitive
and there aren't alot of routes on chinatown
they should def add more runnable parts of the map so its not super repetitive like that
proud tendon
Construction bro does not like
storm mirage
based and real that map is worse than ebola
glacial cedar
Construction bro does not like
he requed before it got selected
proud tendon
A vision
storm mirage
He saw the future
proud tendon
Tbh I need that for certain maps
Because of ts, because why did it get picked 3 times in a row
cosmic yew
sweet patrol
That map is chaos and blocks all over the place
It’s like remembering 1000 physics equations
patent stag
Wut construction?
glacial cedar
It’s like remembering 1000 physics equations
Yall hate on construction too much
Like what did it do to you 🙏🙏
proud tendon
Construct itself upon this gamemode
mild marlin
They should add Detroit as a map
quaint jolt
Who knows pnemoq's discord?
storm mirage
Like what did it do to you 🙏🙏
it bad
too many random block piles and its got no routes to run on, so not fun to seek and not fun to run
also no good spots so not fun to hide either
glacial cedar
its the perfect map
proud tendon
No
proud tendon
did they add any new maps to this game
The ones in 2023
west token
Hive Bee!?
clever tangle
Hey
patent stag
Yall hate on construction too much
Fr I'm starting to like construction
spice edge
Fr I'm starting to like construction
starting to realise that construction is small
its not that large
patent stag
It's like a medium size map
patent stag
Something new but kept Mr noscoopes as an alt
exotic wave
More 5 Lvl
main kettle
hello
glacial cedar
@shadow juniper gg
proud tendon
More 5 Lvl
Under a week
shadow juniper
<@1074388505817522197> gg
Ah, well, gg?
patent stag
@glacial cedar im not gonna get to 40k this month but I'm close is that good enough?
obsidian monolith
@autumn zinc you win as seeker so fast. Did you remember all hiding place in every map? (you killed me lol)
harsh marten
<@1147058095156109334> im not gonna get to 40k this month but I'm close is that ...
he will say no
harsh marten
LMAO
glacial cedar
<@1147058095156109334> im not gonna get to 40k this month but I'm close is that ...
This guy is ass 🙏🙏
N.. n.. No
harsh marten
N.. n.. No
hello manx
glacial cedar
Hi
harsh marten
hi
glacial cedar
harsh marten
harsh marten
