what is the largest list you can search through with a for each chip?

[loud ingot]

for the record i am checking if a VERY large list of vector3s meet certain location based requirement this also means it does not run any executions unless the requirements are met and if they are it would only apply once

1 because this is local it is not sending any data to other players meaning there is nothing going over the network aka this would not effect net

2 although i am running the for each a lot it is not running any other executions within the loop except sometimes 1 so the CPU should be fine

3 thing is i am having the game run by 2000-3000 or more vector3s at a time so i was wondering if there was any hidden limit to it because I don't wanna go with the system then have it fail and start over

4 if there is a really low limit like 30 or something id like to find another way to single out points within a rotated cube [without trigger zones]
because the [LIST ANY TRUE] chip only works in bools because i can detect if a point is in a cube but i can't apply those detectors to a mass of options

5 if you know more on 4 id like a bit of help on a alternative option

6 btw the icon is there cuz it inspired me to make the game i currently need help with

[quiet cedar]

You would not be able to use a for each chip with a list that size

what exactly are you checking for are you trying to find points in an area

[loud ingot]

Id guss that

[loud ingot]

2 cubes if there over lapping [to be exact]

[quiet cedar]

yeah if you need to actually iterate over all items in a list you would want to make your own for chip like from scratch

[loud ingot]

i don't got RRs [if thats what your getting at]

[quiet cedar]

no like i mean like make your own circuit board

so you have 2000 vectors and your trying to tell if all of them are in a certain like bounds?

[loud ingot]

no

i have many cubes in a room and i need to tell if 1 cube is overlapping any other cube

[quiet cedar]

oh i see are the cubes all the same size

[loud ingot]

no then my life would be easy

and by cubes they can also be rectangles

mb i said that earlyer

in short the problem isn't checking

[quiet cedar]

okay i see there is actually a way to find out the measurements of a cube are they physical or decoration

[loud ingot]

ok i am calling them cubes/rectangles but they really are 8 vector3s and a center point

there aren't any "soild" objects

[quiet cedar]

okay i see thats kinda cool to store the data

[loud ingot]

in short if i check the wrong cube
aka a cube that isn't colliding while another one is

things will break fast

[quiet cedar]

are they in a dictionary or just like one vector list

[loud ingot]

but i also learned the closest center or corner doesn't work

[loud ingot]

ok answer that

1 sec

1 list of cv1 trigger zones objects that hold the corners in tags and the related rotations in more tags

[quiet cedar]

you use the get closest chip to start at the nearest cubes and then keep iterating until you either found a collision or the list runs dry

[loud ingot]

iterating?

[quiet cedar]

wait so what exactly happens when a collision happens

[quiet cedar]

like a while True:

if yk what that means

[loud ingot]

in game contexts fire ball breaks

and other bigger fire ball breaks past

[loud ingot]

btw that list is 2000 vector3s long

[quiet cedar]

so are the center points in one list and the bounds in another list or is it all in a list together

[loud ingot]

the cv1 trigger volumes are in a list [and the centers because they are the centers]

then i have a clambed extra object carrying tags of all the corners next to it

or 0.1 meters forward from it

[quiet cedar]

do you need that extra object to carry the tags

couldn't you have a dictionary that carries all the info needed instead and have the keys be the elements of each center

[loud ingot]

yea due to the fact the inital object carrys other game/attack facts like power level element type etc

[loud ingot]

dictionary ? as in?

[quiet cedar]

Have you tried out rec rooms dictionaries they are super useful

I think they are still in beta if you don't have it turned on

dictionaries are like a way of holding data

it would be like perfect for this

[loud ingot]

i mean that could be nice but how would that help with knowing what cube/rectangle would be the first one over lapping

i technicly have all the info [i just don't know which one to check ]

and i can't check all of them because yk over 2k object/vectors points etcs

[quiet cedar]

so if you check the wrong cube it will break or can you still check like 100 cubes

to see which are colliding

[loud ingot]

ok by break it be like this firball A is checking fireball B but if C is flying past it attacks would clip past one another having another fireball fly through your and hit you randomly is unfair and something i want to prevent

and check which 100 cubes?

if they are all from certian coordinates i would cost ALOT of chips

and if it was from a list then theres a chance it could still happen if i don't check all 2000

[quiet cedar]

you check the closest cubes first

using the get closest chip

[loud ingot]

i tryed that but closest chip can only get the closest point

[quiet cedar]

yeah so you get the closest point that isn't owned by the cube

and you could you that by using a list except chip and just have the exception be the current cube and its points

[loud ingot]

hey so i really gtg as its past my curfew ill be back tmrw

[quiet cedar]

bet

[loud ingot]

alr thanks

[loud ingot]

i was busy yesterday but here are so pictures for explaination

1 the big cube is the hit box and the smaller ones in front are it's extra data and they are an exact distance away

[lone isle]

I believe the biggest list is like 64 or 70-sum

For list create

[loud ingot]

by using clambed objects to store data i can access the exact data i need without extra chips or local pov

[loud ingot]

what about for each? [FOR EACH]

[lone isle]

For Each will read everything in that list

It'll keep going until there's nothing left

But it might raise heat a bit

[loud ingot]

ok but the list ill have will be upward of 2000s objects

[ik its alot even though i am optmizing it the best i can

[lone isle]

Could probably use <List> Variable Vector

Damn typos

[loud ingot]

using it how?

[loud ingot]

im worse

[lone isle]

You can remove or add things to that list using circuits

But it runs localy

[loud ingot]

yea this list of 2000 objects or so will run localing [they will all share the same tag]

in short

[lone isle]

Get all with tag?

Maybe

Add to that list

[loud ingot]

i am using get all with tag to gather all the objects

[lone isle]

Ah

I apologies

[loud ingot]

but i don't know if looping with 2000 objects rapidly is a good idea

[lone isle]

Also apologies again, I didn't read a whole lot at the start of this Convo, but what exactly are you making? I wanna try to replicate it

[lone isle]

Yeah sounds like a lot, I wanna see if I can try to reduce It or find another way

👀

[loud ingot]

ok i to try and not over go in detail

magic game
everyone got magic

but that means item banks [banks that hold mutiply attacks and lets people borrow them locally]
it works and i am good at using them

problem because i want more than like 7 players aiming for 15-20 i need larger banks but the hitboxes cost chips

i used cv1 as a replacement [it worked] but the problem with cv1 is that it can't run locally so with more players it would get to slow

now i tryed to run hit boxes with vectors all corners and the center
and do math to see if there overlapping

i learned i could but if i ran code checking something the wasn't overlapping when something else was attacks would fly past one another

this leading me to have to check All 2000 or so objects

yea i failled this is long mb

but it does get the point across

for example

the closest cube

isn't clashing but it is the closest

[lone isle]

Item banks? Like money banks?

[loud ingot]

no its a term me and a couple other people use

[lone isle]

Ah

[loud ingot]

it means a box of items

[lone isle]

What's it mean?

Ohh ok

[loud ingot]

the game hands out

fire balls

like you would use it for random gear in a doors copy [flash lights etc]

[lone isle]

Ah, like borrowing gear

And you can lend it to another player

[loud ingot]

from a bigger total or bank

yea exactly

so even with 20 players i could get away with only having like 15 sheild spells or fire balls etc [thing is they still cost chips]

[lone isle]

So like these banks, are they in your world? Or

They're like physical pockets

?

[loud ingot]

phyiscal

[lone isle]

Where do they go exactly?

Or like you grab stuff and physically put it in there

[loud ingot]

ok fire ball in a box out side the map

player 1 casts fire ball

[lone isle]

Ahh

Okay

[loud ingot]

the thing is i don't want the amount of items to cost chips

[lone isle]

So if a player shoots fireball, another player cant

[loud ingot]

IF there arent any left

[lone isle]

Yeah

And your issue is it's projectile hitting objects?

Colliding with like a box or sum

[loud ingot]

yea it projectiles hiting projectlies

for example

[lone isle]

Ahh like another fireball hitting another one (something happens)

[loud ingot]

yea i did all that and it works and all but having 15 of every attack each having a trigger zone

[lone isle]

Sorry if I'm asking a billion questions, I'm trying to understand it all

[loud ingot]

ik its all good

[lone isle]

Ahh, so you don't want trigger volumes on them?

[loud ingot]

game needs collison but trigger zones are costly on them yea

[lone isle]

You can use Box collider

[loud ingot]

ohh yea been there done that

overlap box right

[lone isle]

Lol

Yeah (my bad)

Thinking unity..

[loud ingot]

so thing is it's perfect BUUUUUT

[lone isle]

Uhuh?

But? (Lol)

[loud ingot]

it can only detect phycail objects

[lone isle]

Use a invisible collision

Invisible collision don't cost that much and clamp them onto your projectile

[loud ingot]

well if i have is not collide with players or objects the overlap box dont work

and if it does

firing projectlies at the ground gets weird

[lone isle]

Hmm

[loud ingot]

funny thing is

they do work if you have your maker pen out

[lone isle]

Okay well I'll come back later, rn I'm on lunch. When I get out I'll see if I can help more on that

[loud ingot]

alr

[lone isle]

Alr cool, I'll be out in like 6 hours ..

[loud ingot]

1 thing'

[lone isle]

Hope that's not too long

[loud ingot]

see the to hit box things i sent

green and purple boxes up there

thats the more direct problem

thats all

[lone isle]

I'll see what I can do

Later

[lone isle]

Alright I'm back

U awake?

Just @ me when you're free or so

[loud ingot]

im here

oh wait

@lone isle

awaken

you here?

because i think i was only 2 mins off

i shallnt spam at but one more should be fine @lone isle

hello from some where?

[lone isle]

Yeah, gimme a sec

Alr what's your name

[lone isle]

So I can join u

[loud ingot]

ok yea

@lone isle

@name123321

user display XD

[lone isle]

Okay

[loud ingot]

i crashed

[loud ingot]

the answer is the larger the list being ran the more cpu it takes

so there is not "limit" but you will run out of CPU

[solar bobcat]

Btw know this isn't really the question being asked but the limit for list size is 4096 if that's helpful