#CAN WE PLEASE JUST KEEP THE BODY OPTION?
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So real
This exactly
Keep getting this question, keep losing the inital posts, so here's the reasons
Atleast make it so the height glitch is still usable š
Can you elaborate on this?
The second yall start losing players itās coming back bfr
Most players were already on new bean as it is. I understand being frustrated but you will get used to it
Use the customization options, you can get really close, and we have more settings cooking too
Thank you!
That just ruins the game sometimes theres no point in it
Still wanna know what the height thing is about
got timed out for 1 hour for absolutely no reason
People like making themselves like 8 feet tall for some reason
on quest you can adjust your height and can adjust your height on valve index with world scale
With the new bean it makes it where its not possible to move the bean up that high I guess it has a limit to height
Oh that's to get extremely tall not just make your self normal tall huh
Yeah
and OVR
It also makes it where you cant go underground which is really nice
Darn, I mean I understand why we would do that, as cheating with that sounds annoying, but I know that it's fun thing, I did something similar with ovr in reccenters to "fly"
That I hated
As a pvp player that was so damn annoying lol
Funny in centers though
I canāt even wear a costume dummy on the new bean š„
Since the update the rec room playerbase has almost halved
Itās never been this low for the past 4 years
I heard issues with that, we just released a new update for making your own costumes I think though
That may fix it? I can take a look
Steam hasnt moved a bit
Like this last update?
yeah a chart I looked at said that it did half since the update but that could just be a bad chart
Probably but I do see almost all my friends quitting from the update sadly :/
Im pretty sure most platforms don't allow you to see or get the information of the games playerbases
Height glitching was peak because it looked cool
none of them like the new avatar
And from what I was told allowed you to gop under the floor and cheat
It look stupid being that unrealistically tall, Unless it was with world scale with long arms that was funny
Pretty sure you could still do that if you really tried to
I'm sure you could, players find a way
I actually think they might not be a way
Because it really just doesn't let your body go below the ground
It shouldāve been a community vote to even change in the first place
That's awesome if that's true lol, I hated fighting that
This was brought up last night,
Players who are really passonate about how much they don't like it go on discord, those who like it or could care less aren't gonna come in here to argue about it
Same goes for votes where most players wouldn't participate aside from the minority. another thing is we did this for a reason
Also everyone that says they're "leaving" will be back in like a week
They never fully leave
So anyways, with this deadly new update, has hacking been stopped at all?
Okay but the rooms are way more laggy
You sent it here first
but I didn't wanna type it again
So if the game dies because of this what's your plan then?
It's not lol
so your confident rec room wont die?
āSilenceāš
i at least want a reply.
When I am too tall the torso and head stays below while my hands are only floating up
majority of players do not complain about performance. This update was useless and caused a massive controversy.
If the upgraded bean was supposed to improve performance... Why has he recent update make me lag, crash, and overall make the game unplayable?
In a private server with barley anything spawned in, all I would do is pull out my makerpen and I lag.
And the perspective change is horrible, causes me to have nausea.
I am curious, why does it bug out my hair? It makes the back look really weird
Can you send a pic?
When I get on is it alright if I show the height glitch to you? It's the literally only problem I have with upgraded beanšš
Alr I sent it
@restive egret I feel like the performance with the new bean body is terrible is it just my pc or is it rec room I get lag spikes every couple minutes
So we only care about our performance instead of our community
- Most players use new bean
- Performance is important
- There is a lot of upkeep to keep it
- UGC/our new items aren't compatable with it so we'd need to make a 3rd item
Itās still a bad performance with the new body
Excuses excuses š“
Wouldnāt that just mean calibration room scale just wonāt work
Isnt caring about performance caring about the community?
They want the game to run good so the community can thrive
soo were lying about most players use new bean.
This isn't just coming from me, but a lot of people doesn't really want UGC
more people was using old beam it was only kids that use the new bean because they didnt know how to turn it off
But there are plenty of people that do, and you can choose to not wear it
If someone uses classic then they won't have UGC
Yea, and you can just not wear it if you dont want too
That's why using classic would not really affwct much in my opinion. If they like the old style then they can have it.\
I just don't want to be floating hands when I'm tall š„
Idk what to tell you, most players did not use it, beyond juniors. But no matter what I say nothing with change your opinion
Itās not wrong to be upset
I am just saying it how it is
but im mainly not wrong
Idk where your sources are from then
Im telling you how it is, you can be upset thatās ok
ok bro but the main reason is kids didnt know how to turn it off
I say it's MOSTLY new players that enjoyed new bean, there is people that have played for awhile that also enjoy it. It's just people that don't use it don't like how it makes the body generally look. It's cool to have more customization but I wish there was option within customizing that makes my torso at least look similar to classic bean.

costumes are a nightmare to make now, anyone wanting to make a trench coat for example are going to find it impossible
FBA costume
Would you add the bean body back if you could? Just a genuine question (my friends has been asking me to ask a dev about this)
Your problem is solved
leaves the outfit segmented leaving choppy clipping and abnormal movement

oh well
I would not, although I really like the old bean and the PVP issues should get fixed, the amount of work and up keep mixed in with performance gains plus my avatar looks almost identical doesnāt make it worth it at all
If it didnāt have the underlying issues, I would keep it ez
One more question: Could these problems be fixed?
Like the underlying stuff with performance and systems? No it cannot unfortunately, new bean is that fix
That sucks, well, at least there is some options like editing facial features to look like somewhat the classic bean.
im trying to find somebody that has settings which resemble the classic bean the best, im struggling with the head
Im trying to figure that out as well
does anyone know how i can get the classic bean body look
kinda sad its come to this, entire communities are having to shut down cause of a single update
Yeah.. Its actually unfortunate.
the sliders have no numbers or anything so its a pain
glory to the ccp
you just have to eye ball it
Is the animations actually the problem? And couldnāt you use the animations for the new one and put it in to the old one
I hate it when I have to eyeball things
The new stuff uses a skeleton rig, classic did not, it was 3 different objects
havent perfected them yet, still in the process of doing so
actually such a headache for what couldve been a simple addition to this update
rec room will always be a game that the og people play and talk about the better times they had during the old rec room, or you're a child playing a studio squidgame map.
Is there any way you could get the old bean body back?
Like the torso shape? Isn't that already a option?
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Or the bend part?
Meant like optimizing it to be like the new one
Optimizing it?
The old bean runs worse than the new one
Most peole used that bean because that's all u guys were making items for bruh, and bc how dumb it looked. People literally made there faces look as dumb as possible amd there character really fat or skinny, and u guys changed that body to the default body before the update so peole were automatically switched to that body anyway, peole didn't use it bc it was better, it just looked goofy and was fun and
Ngl thatās not cool gng
Yeah like having it run as good as the new one
RR IS OFFICIALLY COOOKED
Oh you mean making old bean do that, answer is no not really. There were underlying issues with the old bean that can't just be patched out
Idc what people say, im convincing myself that this is cap
I can't accept the factšš„
Yall be adding these useless shi
That's kinda red pilled tbh XD
Idk how the new bean and its dumb looking crouch animations and the fact u can change how fat u can be or make yourself really skinny doesn't cause more bugs, doesn't make sense at all
Ngl rr has lost there mind
They really deleted something people loved just to make a more laggy version and said its an improvement
Somehow a body that's u can make really skinny or really fat is less buggy than a body u can barely change the shape of ig?
I dont blame you
I cant even play the video game without crashing
pretty sure it had to do with the way the modeling was on the classic bean? doesnāt justify how goofy the bean is now
The new bean body is as
It looks dumb bruh
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Performance was way better on the older models of bean. Newer one has caused huged issues ever since the update launched last night.
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You and the Devs. Couldāve made all the models compatible with UGC but decided not to.
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Lack of resources and wasting money on things people donāt even want.
costume making is a dead concept in rec room now, I have to clone a costume every time if i want to edit it, roles dont work on costumes anymore, v1 costume dummys no longer work and if you try to use a full body costume its even worse due to the clippling and segmenting.
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The bean is not the issue, we shipped a bug related to the holsters
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No we could not, not without UGC makers and ourselves needing to make a 3rd outfit for a small part of the playerbase
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Adding new features and having more test time is a pretty big thing players ask for
sad
would it really be so damaging to have an option where the skeleton in the new bean can be fixed and not move?
Top 5 to Recroom dumbest thing
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Remove classic bean body
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Try to say itās to laggy
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Make everyone your a shi version of it
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Remove classic bean body
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Remove classic bean body
Planned with personas I believe
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The holster is still apart of the bean model. It causes a massive frame drop on VR.
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Couldāve made the option to have UGC creators make clothing items for the older model. And if people purchased it on the newer one it would transfer directly to the older one also.
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No one even asked for it in the first place. You and the Devs had 4 MONTHS. To have a deadline set for June 4th but didnāt. I understand why the team couldnāt really make a deadline but it was kind of a huge change for the community and everyoneās upset about it.
heres hoping, a joint locking setting with the maker pen would solve most if not all the issues me and many other creators have currently, thanks
Top 5 to Recroom dumbest thing
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Remove classic bean body
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Try to say itās to laggy
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Make everyone your a shi version of it
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Remove classic bean body
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Remove classic bean body
This bug would have happened wether we removed it or not :)
as long as it isnt rec room plus, i dont want to pay to play this game
And I stated the reasons already, feel free to disagree
The older bean didnāt have this issue
Neither did full body or new bean before the update :^)
Yes. Because the newer bean was obviously rushed
You donāt get these types of bugs often unless itās rushed
"My car won't start, it's because I forgot to eat an apple this morning"
Removing old bean was not hard, and we have been planning on it for a year
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It just so happens we released a bug on the same day
There was no need to remove it in the first place. Let the community have the freedom to have it whenever they want by enabling it in settings
Just a waste of time and resources to begin with
Read the reasons I sent, there was
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So yall couldn't just work a bit harder to fix yalls game? Its already on its down fall n removing classic bean js made it worse
Majority of the people in the discord. Want it as an option and I agree you could make UGC creators have the option to make clothing items for the older bean instead of limiting them
Yea I was getting horrible lag spikes earlier
Like I couldnāt even move in a rec center
My game never lags like that
Ondog I donāt even know how you can keep at it like this, youāre a tank
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But you guys will atleast fix the faces and make the beans kinda look like old bean right?
Exactly
if u havenāt noticed people are now crashing and lagging out of games
the new bean didnāt do anything but break shi
#1379881729489371216 message
We shipped a unrelated bug, would've happened with or without the removal
I am not sure, I don't see hwy not as we are adding new features to it all the time
Hey, Is the Classic Bean Model still In the file's
they probably erased it
I found a video on how to adjust the hands
To the classics last pos.
Iām fine with the new stuff I just want the hands and how you hold weapons the same as the old bean
NO ONE ASKED FOR THE NEW BEAN I BEEN PLAYING SINCE 2017 AND THE NEW BEAN IS THE ISSUE JUST SCRAP THE NEW BEAN KEEP THE OLD BEAN IT AFFECTS REC ROOM ORIGINALS SO MUCH I REALLY DIS LIKE THIS ADDITION
Then make it not ugly then šš
cant you just rremake the old bean body for it to be optimized?
instead of remaking a whole new avatar that most people dont want
They can just make a new one that still contains the old features
But they didnāt š
@restive egret how come y'all can't just make the new body look like the classic one or be extremely similar
Ironic.
Ive just got an amazing idea, a community vote in game on the watch about which bean is preferred
Couldn't you just stop supporting Old Bean?
I mean, instead of removing it entirely, you could just stop updating or fixing bugs for it, but still leave it available as an option.
That way, Old Bean remains accessible for those who want it, without requiring ongoing maintenance from the devs.
Itās so much more laggy then before. Idk if itās the bug thatās been out where you put your hand in your face and it lags the whole game and everyone in it or the holster thing but please fix it fast and not leave it for a year
No itās reasonable cause as they add new things to the game they do have to support it to make sure it works. If stuff worked differently for different bodyās if they stopped updating it it would be bad
It's known and being fixed
Yall just gotta get over the change.
@restive egret is there another update coming soon? Too at least fix on what people complain about
This is a good point ngl 
is there a way you could make the new bean have a toggle to be stiff, kinda like the old bean?
im so sad they removed classic bean
@restive egret
Let me counter you.
- Most players arenāt using new bean youāre lying lmao.
- Yaāll are just money hungry, stupid expensive prices for ugly UGC ITEMS.
- Yaāll literally are copying Roblox with the UGC flow, thereās literally Roblox named items on the game now..
- You donāt care about the community, nor the other developers and the owner, WE WANT BEAN BACK. But yall want MONEY.
- Yall doing all this extra stuff, nobody has bad performance issues, yall usually had weekly performance issue updates, update it better lmao.
- Itās even worse with the new bean.
- It looks terrible, the face settings look so stupid.
- The new bean walks like itās constipated.
- Rec room is going to die, youāre slow, (itās going to)
- Itās already dead lmao, yall just coping.
i totally agree š š
Bro they doing all this unnecessary shi.., cuz they want money..
i know bro trust me there money hungry just dont care about there community
@restive egret start sending applications to a new job. Nobody is going to waste their money on UGC items like what is that Roblox copied shi, youāre going to lose your wage. lmao.
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To say most players are using new bean sounds so stupid when theyāre all complaining to bring it back, like rec room lock in cornballs.
Slow..
new bean is ass on vr and on screen but id rather play it on screen then vr
@restive egret Yall donāt even know what yall just did removing bean lmao
Being this pressed over a game is insane
I deleted the game.
Iām not pressed, Iām pointing out the obvious, go hide in a bush.
"Go hide in a bush" what type of insult is that suppose to be š
Not an insult.
Go hide yourself aināt nobody gaf
Then what was the point of adding that.
Whatās the point of saying ābeing pressed over a game is insaneā
Sybau lmao
š š„
Also you're 100% upset about this. But people saying they're deleting the game and not playing are 100% coming back soon
Lock in š„
Bro people deadass aināt gonna come back, what you on about.
Lmao š
Steam player count hasnt gone down at all
Screen players / VR players
Lmao
āSteamā
Yeah steam
Crazy G
VR and screen players
Ah weāre just getting started
?
There's not even a way to tell other player counts on other platforms reliably
Thats such a weird age range did you just 15 or something?
Youāre 12 -14
Believe what you want to believe
I'm not the one pressed over a avatar in a game and making a big deal about it
Bro, thereās other people who have commented on this, tell them some shi too.
You're the only one responding right now
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Ah start sending them applications
You're arguing with someone that makes more money then you working on a video game
You know what I said was true
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Ah very great way to respond. Jk. Lmao
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thank you
Yeah have fun making less wage when people quit and donāt buy your UGC that copies Robloxās idea.
Lmao.
I can just tell ondog a big dude .
Huffing and puffing
Under his desk making $20k a year
Rec Room has been focused on ugc/ letting people be creative from the early days
They've always worked on ugc
Lmao. Youāre fat.
Lmao
You love defending them, donāt you?
You really got him with that one
I ain't defending anything I'm just pointing out facts
Same here mate
Lmao
I agree that rec room has messed up but you can't get mad at them tryna to improve there game
What I countered ondog with he doesnāt want to reply, heās too lazy and he doesnāt care about the community so heās sending gifs.
Lmao..
Because it doesnāt matter what I say to you, youāve already made up your mind lol
, you havenāt even read what I countered you with.
Go send an application to Roblox headquarters they make more than rec rooms copy cat ahh
You should work on your insults
Lmao š„
- They have the data to back that up you don't youre just assuming
- Lowkey vaild
- UGC isn't copying roblox
- Kinda true
- People do have performance issues its always been a thing espically with the UI
- Thats not due to new bean thats due to a bug with holsters
- Just take some time and fix it
- I can see that
Also I did read your post
You shouldnāt be saying this as a developer.
I just chose not to respond :)
Cuz youāre lazy.
I say what i want
oop.
ladies come down
š
calm*
Ondog the only lady.
Ondog a bum.
Heard it here first

oh shit mb havent been sleeping for the past 3 days
āI work at rec room!!!ā
Real ondog quote
Lmao imagine telling youāre kids you work at rec room
daddy drake
Pretty sure hes getting paid to send gifs right now
Pretty good job if you ask me
I donāt care.
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š
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Real
Lmao what u gonna do if ppl start protesting to bring bean back at the headquarters
Yall gonna cry and hide ?
Not gaf ?
like usual
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Protesting at an HQ over a game š
does in game VM actually get paid
Like 5 ppl said they will
For people whos quitting the game thats some dedication
You mean Vmod? Itās volunteer mod so no they donāt
right
Lmao
Nah but in all seriousness, yall developers be doing shi the community didnāt ask for. Lmao.
be deadass i dont like the new bean but if they can make it feel and look he same as classic idc
Cuz yall want money.
Thats the whole point of a company
Yeah them face settings are horrible what is that Ondog
We have a personas thing planned I think that will let you make it feel more like it
What is the new bean face settings
You can make it look like classic bean if you just put time into it
Absolute monstrosity
the holsters suck on the new bean
I agree with that
what about the face why is it soo hard to make it the same as classic
Face settings are used to adjust the features of your avatar, pretty self explanatory 
its so hard to put things on holsters now
Iām guessing the developers wanted everyone to walk around looking constipated . Lmao.
and take them off
Yeah, ugly face settings.
Lmao.
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What is that MOUTH
in youāre pfp
Do a better job
I think we have a severe holster bug atm that may be adding to that issue
Omg
Just don't use it
You made that mouth in your pfp omg thatās terrible
they also look bad
Looks like a kid drew it on an art assignment in art class, do better.
Oh that one doesnt work anymore :(
Womp womp.
Ill have to make it work again
Make bean work again cornball
YOO i did not know you cant put āgfā on roblox š
That sounds cooler no?
The eyes and mouths are quiet literally lines and dots
The mouths are so terrible
Just use the old mouths
The faces on the new bean look completely different from the old bean, nobody asked for that.
Yall be doing the extra for money
They just don't if you work on them
Youāre engaging with it right now lmao.
Shush not talking to you
Ok why are the things in the shop so expensive
Honestly ondog you suck at making prices on UGC items you money hungry big boy
Zenom just donāt reply lol
like minimum of 1200 tokens
holy moly
theyāre basically going bankrupt you canāt blame them
Lmao.
There actually pretty much the same as it was in 2020, even before that
I forgot they were going bankrupt lmao
Nobody wanted to buy their stupid UGC
Lmao..
Prices came down a bunch in the last like 3 or 4 months or so
this is so much proof that rr is just gonna die brah
Lmao.
14k tokens for an elsewhere item yeah get help ondog
I mean check for yourself lol
i refuse to get on a game that doesnāt listen to their peopleās opinion
Nah.
Facts.
You donāt care so you reply with gifs.
you read it
which proves my point
donāt they have a website so people can post their opinions
honestly instead of giving us new things work on the old things like fixing the f-ing bugs
Yeah pretty sure theres forums
iām almost 99% sure they donāt read them
Exactly, ondog is a discord mod sitting behind his desktop ignoring people cuz he money hungry
Fatass
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Part of the reason we dropped old bean
stinkyyyy
Nah you just want UGC money
i think someone needs to get up off their chair and go experience lifeeee
Lmao
True
8 times youāve said lmao
You can make it look like old bean
Lmao
Theres pictures somewhere someone sent
like idk how yall thought it was ok to give us new bean
I bet ondog would fold under pressure in a real situation
yeah that guy is awesome for that
Lmao
Youre tuff
its looks moves and is in all just terrible
We said for around a year now that we were going too so
Zesty .
shouldnāt have
āSoā
but do you guys listen?

noooooo
thatās what i said earlier in the other thread lmao
if yall delete rooms v1 thats when yall are getting nuked
ongdog any plan on better ui because thats the main issue I have the ui takes forever to load if it even loads
Yup, they know weāre right they just deny and make excuses
Shouldāve just unsupported Old Bean instead of removing it
@halcyon orbit
exactly
Honestly why canāt they just make the faces look like the old bean, that would appease 90% of people that are against the new bean
they love avoiding their problems
Heyyy
actually real, i would be a bit happier
Iām not sure but I also completely agree with you
Yes and work on the body too honestly
Didnāt you guys say you would see how it would work switching all users to new bean, seeing how people liked it. Not that you were 100% GOING TO change it?
Alright
If they made the old bean face on the new bean everything would be cool lmao. But they want them ugly shi.
I could live without that, except they should bring back the body swaying when you move
Constipated ass walk
if yall delete rooms v1 thats when yall are getting nuked
yeah it WAS an opinion based thing, now itās forced
Yeah..
Stay original
REAL
how has rec room messed up he round face that much š
#dontcareaboutcommunity
looks like a block
šæ
#thisgameisdead
what does it look like now?
At one point they forced us into it, the purpose I would assume would be to see how users liked it. Now weāre being forced into it as not all users like new bean which I disagree with
look at media
The face shapes on the new bean donāt even look the same
whatttt
Yeah , Iād say half dislike it.
Also how it affected the game
i cant put anything
I laughed so hard when over 60k people had left the discord server on June 4th š
this seems like a dictatorship now..
ywah ik bro
dms
Iām saying the people who are die hard old bean fans, they gonna quit and yall gonna lose a lot of money doing useless unasked for things
YOOO YOURE BACK FINALLY š
Yea and we did do that, the setting said it was depreciated, which we remove after a period of time. Not sure if we explicitly said that though tbh, If we didnāt we couldāve done better there
Which is fair to assume to say that we should be able to keep both, also not everyone shared their opinion here since not all users are in this discord
ikr after 3 hours
Yeah they donāt care
š šš¼ that ban was so stupid tho
ik š
#theydontgaf
what do yall think of rooms v2 in my personal opinion its just as bad as new bean
Was it actually 60k?
never been so disappointed in a game btw
Honestly rec room is buns.
Why canāt the new bean just have face shapes that look the same as the old beans face shapes, they donāt look the same at all
Yeah, but depreciated doesnāt mean you canāt use them; you see this with circuits. The circuits are still usable yes, but theyāve most likely been updated for newer purposes. I just disagree with the change, most people I know disagree as well
Yh from 210k to 150k ovenrjght.
is that a surprise?
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@restive egret delete the game
LMAO
@restive egret delete the game
That is not how a dev works..
make it work
@restive egret tell nick to delete the game
@restive egret tell nick fat to delete the game
Itās so buns
You mean 250k down to 210k right?
Rec room copies vr chats rooms, and Robloxās.
No. From 210k down to 150k discord users overnight.
Ohh you had a type error
unoriginal
or just do a revive of the old game to make people come back
Rec Room itself or the people who make the games
Still true
Oh I didnāt notice š
iām surprising myself that iām still here
iām here to watch the downfall
and laugh
Is there proof of it being from 210k tho š? I didnāt know rec room had that many, if thatās the case, 60k people leaving is more than proof of why rr should keep the old bean bodies
i think a revive of the old game would fix everything
Iām just here to see how many idiots are on discord. Nothing else
and rec room just fixes bugs
back to 2016
Iām watching this until the end of the summer holidays for everyone and see this game die š
My friend does but he canāt find the image for it. It was definitely above 200k discord users before the update.
exactly, itās like youtube but stinkier
a little later like when we can start making our own games
Like custom servers like how cod community does it
hmm 2018?
Whatās going on here
no
You canāt accuse a game of copying another gameās rooms if they donāt make the rooms man. The purpose of the three games is to make rooms for other users. If another user copied someone elseās room from another game then that isnāt Rec Room copying them
i love ur user
itās beautiful
just an older verison
That's true
I know right
When someone finds the image, please send it to me, I really wanna see this š.. if 60k people left, then thatās a sign to rec room to do something about this and not let it go, but obviously they wonāt act on it
@restive egret like the user bro
i feel like maybe 2020-2021 mightāve been peak iām not sure tho
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Before the UI changes yeah
iām a 2018 user with a 2021 user šš„
210k to 150k is crazy and @restive egret saying the game not dead.
Prob can find it on YouTube
Yes it was I think
yeah yeah i miss that ui
2019 was pretty good to
Find it for us
wym?
My avatar was the exact same before and after the update, nothing on it has changed
agreed
People in discord
oh deadass lol
Yeah
But 2020-2021 was the best due to cv2 and better makerpen and stuff
ur like the 1% that was lucky then
Rec room lost like 60k
oh yeah didnāt cv2 JUST come out at that time
i remember the hype
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Yeah and Im pretty sure the gamechip was also new around that time
I might have the best name in here
Yeah i guess
games started to get better around that time
Yea due to better creation tools
i wonder how fast someone will ban you š
2017-2023 is when Rec room was good
i think it started crashing down when studio was introduced ngl
like
itās good in some aspects
This an alt, I got timed out for an hour already
but like creativity is not the same anymore
Studio is only bad because the community isn't using it correctly
oh damn ā ļø
I have the best name
yeah, all i see are people importing instead of building
@restive egret I have a better name than you
Studio is suppose to be used WITH the makerpen not used to create games by itself
not wrong
but when they use it for the sky to make it beautiful, thatās peak
i think of using rec room studio as cheating when making games
The same thing happened with CV2, lots of hate towards it. Iām not sure how it exactly played out but we still have CV1, though CV2 is really the only thing that kept its support we still have CV1. It shows both can exist simultaneously so both users are happy
I sent you ss, of what the ondog guy said
cv2 is actually good though š
I dont get the hate around CV2 it was a great addition that was needed
Wait I got it wrong. It was 300 discord users that had left as a V-Mod clarified this from seeing the stats. But apparently over 3 thousands people had uninstalled RR.
I aint got a clue how people understood cv1
more to come
from what i heard it sounded like the most difficult thing in the world bruh š
same
Damn
YEP
This is probably old.
Also people kind of protested when full body came out but they eventually got over it
i remember that, i saw it on twitter, people were PISSSEDDDD
When CV2 was first introduced it got a lot of hate, Cv2 now has a lot more support and people started to like it as it came out. I donāt think this will be the same situation unless the changes are so significant to the FPS that the game becomes EXTREMELY smooth. Even with enough changes I donāt think that the people who enjoy old bean will start to like it
I even changed up my avatar and its still the exact same as it was before the new bean came out
Because itās 100% optional and not forced
was*
Iāll pay $200000000 bring back old bean
I can see why people don't like bean v2 but like you can make it look just like v1 it just takes a little messing around
I try to change mine as much as possible, however some of the face expressions and other things with the face are the issue with me. I also donāt enjoy the look of my hands
Also I don't really have any word in this because I love making stupid looking avatars
Weāre talking about fba
rec room really said that they moved the new bean head forward 4cm to replcate the old bean head
BUT IT DIDNT DO ANYTHING
Had to kill Roomie in the memes channel š£ļø š„
i feel like that would give it a hunchback look
It was perfectly fine⦠I understand if there were some performance issues but you wouldnāt have to deal with that if you just kept the same old bean instead of trying to make something different that clearly a lot of people donāt want but Iām saying this with the upmost respect
This is why you shouldnāt believe everything you read
You're really showing rec room with that name
š¤£
Yet
unfortunately šš„
I understand the frustration, we didn't just do it for performance though. If it was easy to update we would but bugs are constantly coming up that need fixed, performance gains of course, but it's also not compatible with our current avatar systems as the new stuff uses skeletons, while old bean was 3 different objects
If it never broke and it was as easy as making 1 bean item I'm sure it would have stayed but those are the reasons
You will never understand anyoneās frustration here
How so? I loved old bean, I was hired from the community
āLovedā correct usage of past tense
Wait let me get this straight, why did ondog say they might bring bean back if 50k people protest or more.. whatās the whole point if they removed it because of āissuesā so stupid.
time to try play rec room on vr without a long ass loading screen and play dodgeball without little ass kids
Uhh I just bought the pulsing potion and it just didnt give me it
And now my ui broken š
sue
buy the company and give us the classic bean or sum
This is happening guys
Was there just not another approach to any of the bugs for the system to make it the way it was??
Oh I fixed my ui
That makes no sense removing bean because of reasons
Then adding it back if 50k protest
I BEG
Ondog you slow bro?
Not really since of how different the things work, it's hard to explain unless you know unity
Believe me, that number has already been reached
Guys is this pulsing potion suppose to even be in the game yet?
ps 50k people dont even play rr lol
Iām not gonna lie, I think everyone wants old bean back.
I didn't say that it would if it happened, I'm saying you'd need that much for it to really be noticed
explain it anyways, some smarty pants in here will translate
What.
They do actually, way more than that
no way your serious right
Was the stuff just outdated? Or was it just the way yall kept progressing the game so you had to change something?
Yeah, RR had millions of players but theyāre slowly decreasing for one simple reason
What do you mean "noticed"??? You are implying all of this going on isnt being noticed?
Iām a hypothetically scenario.. if over 50-60% of your active player base (users who are actively in game every month / week) decided to no longer play or delete the game because of this issue, would you guys ever consider āokay, we will attempt to make both avatars work because of the feedback on our removal of the old bean body avatarsā
Facts .
Pretty much the new stuff uses skeleton rigs vs the old bean being different pieces, like comparing a boat to a car kinda deal
And?
so what if you put it together
now they dont]
I'm not sure as I am not a head figure, I also don't really feel comfortable speaking to that
and not make it turn out like the new bean
This makes no sense, but youāll bring it back if it gets noticed at 50k
Like what
Make up youāre mind
If that was the case then the team is just clueless
You're really taking what I said and mixing it around
be serious its a friday most people play on friday
Yall developers just ruining the game yall think yall fixing it noā¦
I said to even be noticed, it was a number I thought was enough :P
Not really speaking offically as I am kinda just explaining stuff best I can
Nah, maybe understand what I said š„
show me the thing where it shows how much is on
I was once included. But as soon as āthatā update came out, this game sits in my library abandoned
Just to clarify, do you think it would be something that you think should be done if that was the case, or do you not want to answer on those grounds?
see exactly
i wanna know whatās happening behind closed doors and how the big ppl feel abt this lowk
cuz i know thereās someone in there who doesnāt agree
I think itās just the team in general NOT listening to their community and Iām saying that respectfully
Yep thatās exactly it
YES. PREACH
I used to be one of their most active players. I made friends all the time, I spent a lot of money, but now, I think I speak for most of us when I say, this game is over like itās 1980
We canāt even have free speech on here without getting muted for an hour absolute tarted
This might be like an apex legends scenario where the team wants to do good things for the game but the people in charge are only focused on money
Bruh
And there are basement dwellers who get upset when you have an opinion here
atleast you got logic unlike other people
thatās exactly what it seems like
Yall developers ruined the game
I feel we should give players the option to be exactly like bean with our new system, which with the extra resources I'm sure will happen, like cookie said there is apperently a persona thing in the making to address that. I know it isn't exactly what you were asking but you can get where I am coming from
yea right thanks rec room go in a dodgeball with like 50 cameras and now i cant even load rec room thanks
I wonāt be happy until the new bean looks EXACTLY like the old one. Every last detail
Yall gonna fix the new bean walking animation, makes us look like weāre constipated.
I had to crash out on Roomie as I tried killing it in memes. 
How about yall fix the child predator problem then trying to fix something that shouldnt be fixed
exactly
To be fair, that doesnāt really apply with gaming companies, they have the ability to remove you from their platforms, stop you from speaking, and other things that usual rights would allow you to have. Obviously this is for purposes to keep the community safe; however, I can see where you come from with the wanting the ability to express your opinion on the game
OOOOO BURNNNNNN
I am talking every last detail perceivable by the human eye
Including the animations and behaviour
so fucking true š
Devyn? My family all has our names with YN endings lol
I kinda wish yall just kept the OPTION TO switch between the two cuz im starting to feel like yall are forcing this on us now
they are
Lmaoo
what is going on in here i just came in here to see if theres a chance they can bring old bean back bc i might quit rr after this its so buns the new bean
Different teams do different things, moderation works their butt off getting horrible people off the platform, they don't make changes to art, make game code, or anything like that, jsut like how art doesn't do that either
Way ahead of you
This game is so cookedš„
you quit?
Yea, the issue was we had to actively do stuff to keep it running, I have a bunch of messages explaining why
Moderation? The only moderation Iāve seen is being muted because of what a completely different person says because of this bootleg voice moderation system introduced a few years ago
Yes
I think adjusting old bean so we can have the same hands, facial expressions, animations to our avatar, and similar abilities like seeing our hands on items would be ideal. Of course have other animations or other looks of hands. I can understand with how the old beans worked thatās why it was an issue, but finding a way so that more people can get as close to the old avatars as possible with the new one is ideal, just a thought
ive never got vc banned only ever 1 warning
They rarely give out hardware or IP bans
VOICE bans
Again the personas thing I hope fixes a lot of it, and the hand thing I believe you can choose the big hand option in your settings
Man I wish V-Mod applications would come out again, itās been like 2 years š
Honestly if it wasnāt for the animations it would be fine, it just makes us look funny tbh
why does the ball keep coming out my hand brooo
What about the shape of the hands? What about the gap in the index finger? Is that something they wanna fix?
Ik they did the recommendation like a year ago, still
Why do you even wanna become one in the first place? š
Unsure tbh, I couldn't tell you 100% what is going to happen as I am just saying what I've seen here (from offical comms)
I don't work on avatar stuff
If youād check my profile, youād see that I do a decent amount of moderation
yeah old hands better and IT WAS ON A OLDER SYSTEM
Trust me. You donāt want to become a V-Mod.
Rec Room Clans need the height increase for various characters. Thatās why they donāt use the new bean but now they are forced to.
Like nothing personal to you or the team, but for a game that claims to wanna let people express themselves, you sure are taking away that ability bit by bit
Honestly i cant tell what's different about the new bean, im looking at my guy right now and i don't see any difference?
I think a big concern is actually the opposite, a lot of people feel you can express too much
How can you āexpress too muchā?
Yea you can make it really close, a lot of the concerns are the little details
Meh always been big on moderation, Iād like to see what itās like.
The amount of body sliders, ugc, pretty much every setting we've added to new bean that old bean didn't have
This one is most likely going to give you a huge headache when moderating
Yeah, but thatās optional. Making everything about your body look exactly like the old bean isnāt in the game
When I used the height increase it just kept the camera the same and my hands way up. @restive egret
I have a problem with certain avatars being able to be made with some of the items we have as thatās an issue for some rooms I moderate in; however, this isnāt really fixable if you want users to have more avatar items to express themselves
Can you give a specific example?
Wait whatās the requirements to be a moderator on the Roblox discord server?
its messed up all my outfits
Me to
Osama, H!tler, EDP, other historical figures that have done bad things
Iāve been like an Og ever since Tixās got removed š“
Me to.
Applications come out every 3 months 
Is it that easy?
These are reportable so if you see players acting or cosplaying as problematic politic figure feel free to report
Keep in mind @lucid basin itās unofficial, but itās one of the biggest server that is a community for Roblox
like they will ever stop
i wanna play dodgeball with good players but theres just new born kids in my game
Wouldnāt call EDP historical more of a guy that tried to do some bad stuff
They do have requirements, but we often look for new staff members
Itās an example, just avatars of bad people in general
Every game faces this issue
UGC was added to help with the money problem that Rec Room has. If they remove UGC then it would definitely be some sort of impact to their income which is why they will never remove it.
Roblox has got their own knockoff Discord anyway no surprise itās unofficial
Those outfits were being made prior to Avatar UGC
I get that, just hate having that issue at all in rooms. Also sometimes reporting and modding a user in the room can be a little time consuming; I try my best to repot users who have broken rules that are against the CoC
Everything and anything will have an upside and a downside to them.
Indeed
@unkempt cradle I would love to moderate the Roblox discord server as Iāve been on Roblox for 9 years now
Yeahhh, doubt they will ever make one since we have over 1.27 million members. Their only option is really to contact our owner and offer to make it official. I can read the ownerās emails though so I could never know if they were to get that offer
Letās have a little topic breather and look at my cat (sheās the goat)
im on about even if u report them other people will still always do it and name another game like rr where the players dont dress like people thats are problematic like the ones that were mentioned
We make announcements when they are out, as long as you get announcements from our announcement channel then you should be notified. Not sure we do recommendations there. The best ones should be anywhere from this month to August
There isnāt a game where players donāt dress up like this if given the free choice
We will never be satisfied.
Is the requirements to verify your Roblox account or do you not have to?
People are just bad and mean sometimes
You must verify your account, yes
exactly and with the new bean they do sm more
I think.. people may make offensive avatars with the head or body shape towards those who have disabilities
Including face expressions
They will but still why force new bean on people that didnt use it i get there were bugs and all but like the hate towards the new bean shows people didnt like it
#1379881729489371216 message
but all of the stuff people have on the new beans is sm worse and makes me crash way way more
I had to reset my headset twice to get into Rec Room. However part of the reason they got rid of old bean was to make new bean better because of them having to fix bugs for both
i feel theres going to be way more problems for new bean then the old one
Can it be an alt or does it have to be your main?
rec room really pissing me off before this update i wasnt lagging but all of a sudden this update happend my frames drop and i lag?
Yeah, honestly idk
Iād probably hop on vrchat or some
im gonna say it its the new bean
stupid
Yep
Honestly the game been dead before they removed old bean
If they add old bean back which is not likely to happen, the game probably would skyrocket and become more popular
true
But, I guess itās a Lose-Lose situation, theyāll realize why everyone wants old bean back soon.
Theyāll find out the hard way when they become bankrupt again
I would suggest using your main Roblox account
they wont as there still gonna be little as kids plahing tbis
Honestly fair point, the young kids will spend all their money on ugly UGC. But the OGs will probably quit or cope because of the old bean.
If the server ever becomes official itāll definitely be a lot more harder to get moderator 100%
Most likely, however Iām not sure how they would handle our staff and how we organize everything. We have managers already and mods so Iām not sure they would want to change that. Maybe they would just keep official announcements and stuff like that about the game and server issues and allow us to handle the community since we already have that organized. Iām sure there would be things theyād want to change.
Most likely. Roblox needs a better way to communicate with the community instead of with their knock off discord
I mean they have a support their tickets which even has suggestions
Yeah but no one uses Guilded
might quit rr tbh
alot of people have
rr used to be something
used to play for like the day now i cant look at my ruined fit for a minute and the games have had such a big downgrade omg
u think there listen to us and bring old bean back or nah?
no š
yeah prob not but i pray they do
floating dodgeballs nowšš
No I want old bean idc ur rec room u can fix da bugs
Thts Actually bullshit NOBODY WAS ON NEW BEAN
It prob is
Stop spam pinging me please, you can reply once, then turn off the ping
1: like I said NOBODY USED THE OLD BEAN
2:Ur rec room fix it
3:Wtf does tht mean Kobe Bryant
4:KEEP THE SWITCH OPTION
Real
I know you are upset, I get what you are saying, but even if you don't understand we had to go through with this.
U wanted to not had to
No we did
Nobody was having a problem but rec room
Fix it ur rec room
We make the game, if we are having issues supporting it, then we unfortunately need to do what makes sense
Yk how to do it but u js choose not to
I have a ton of messages you can look at that I sent about making it as close as possible in the future, you should give those a read
It was not.
So removing bean was ur solution
Yes
Nobody likes new bean
You'd be surprised, I understand that you are upset, but this decision was made to give us more time to work on stuff, again read my messages for more info on possible upcoming stuff
U guys havenāt care abt our opinions since 2019 after tht u guys js said āfuck emā
U copy and pasted tht I seen it
The other messages, also again please stop pinging me
Bru all I want is the old head back and the old sway back other than tht idc
Ty
The personas thing (should?) allow the sways issues to be changed to your liking, but you'll need to hang tight for that
How long
When will the next update come
We both know they gonna come out wit dat update when da games alr dead
I unfortunately do not know as I do not work on avatars
Whachu work on
š«©bru what
Not wit these beans
I wish lol
I wanna work on one at some point, although I am not the biggest quest player I love me some good game design and violence
So gore
What? What are you on about
Yes
Every RRO is pretty costly
Depending on how long it takes to make, mitm took awhile as they were making a ton of chips for it and the production was slow, idr how long it took
Should do another super hero or invasion event, that was absolute peak and funšš
but it was close to a year from what I remember
Get ur money up not ur funny broke boy
I loved the gang wars (heros) event š š
That was peakkk
I had just been hired when it happened, I ran the defender stuff (which were obviously the best)
Although I doubt we are gonna do the exact thing again because it devolved into gang wars XD
it was better imo
found a skid but not snitching
sobbing over a 3d model 
Iām a hacker
oops
Well That tends to happen when you automatically switch everyone over when there are probably hundreds of dead accounts that wonāt switch back because nobody plays on them anymore. Not to mention all the new accounts that get made and donāt know about the old bean option unless they go through the settings and find it. This whole āmost people use the new beanā thing is completely rigged and canāt be used to accurately measure how popular the new bean actually is. To quote my favorite TV Show, LAWYERED!
Sent to timeout for 2 years (and no more root beer)
YESSSSS KAPPAAAA
The poster is fire
He went straight silent
Real?
Well tbf I sent that almost 2 hours after his last message
They js hate us there not bringing ts back
Will there be any settings in the future to modify the head (particularly the face) to be more like the old one, I can't get my avatars face back to how it was
BIG UNINSTALL JUNE 20th
gtfo
Dis u
no
@restive egret how come y'all can't just make the new bean body look remotely similar to the old one
Why did you reply to my message š
That I donāt have a answer too actually, Iām not on art team or avatars
Oh all good I was just confused
then reemove v2 and it wouldnt even bad if yall didnt over animate it as hell.
Real
if they remove rooms v1 then rec room might as well as say goodbye because people gonna show up the the RR HQ
Rooms v2 is just as bad as bean v2
they should keep the limits v2 that was perfect and nobody complained but guess what they decided this is going to be the only glitch we fix permanentleu
"permanently"
#robloxcopycat
No way, Iām literally playing Roblox
Lmao
i cant with these devs bro
limits v2 rooms never lagged they worked just like room v1
but with more ink
@restive egret can I get a response to this
dawg
just accept the classic bean is gone and never coming back
Nah
real
What even is the difference between the two??
i just gave up this point
its in the name. classic bean is the old and classic bean that rec room has used for 9 years at this point and the new bean is the newer, modernized, and optimized version of the classic bean. what the difference is between them is that the new bean has a skeleton in it that makes it able to be used with the ugc system while the classic bean is just a floating body.
It literally makes the game lag more so whats the point in removing the old one?
Ik it's hard to support but like there's really no point in removing it
?
It might be that i'm on a low end headset, but it makes the game lag more.
There's currently an ongoing bug that's affecting frame rate, but it's not related to new bean.
So, why are people so mad about it if its essentially the same thing but a bit different?
ah. that must be it. alright, sorry to waste ya time :3
You're fine dw, it's just a common misconception. It certainly doesn't make new bean look good with it happening during the updates release.
because they are just blinded by nostalgia and most can't accept change. same thing happened when they changed the watch ui and the maker pen ui.
Old ui was peak
fr šŖ
@restive egret the game has gotten noticeably more laggy since the old bean was removed, are we sure that was the problem?
Thereās a bug related to holsters rn
Thatās whatās causing really bad lag rn
Can yall at least undo the Maker Pen change? Its annoying whenever I drop my maker pen to fly aroundā¦
Great you replied, while youāre here would you like to respond to the fact that your whole āmost people use the new beanā thing is totally rigged?
^^^
I am literally about to sleep, and Iād rather not participate in that considering you are not in good faith
can you at least undo the maker pen change with flying??
I honestly think everyone can agree the current UI is the worse UI the game has ever had
Its laggy and doesnt even load half the time
They need to make that a setting
you donāt even know if itās rigged or not. you donāt have the analytics and stats they do
Since this update I've been crashing at least once a day and lag really bad when I try to play any public games.
it will most likely be fixed this upcoming update
Hopefully
I'd like do be able to play the game
You say until the goddamn floor starts floating and when you select a lot of stuff to quickly it glitches and breaks
They switched every account to the new bean, even the ones that have been inactive for years, and never advertised the old bean option to new players
Plus they got rid of old bean clothes for starter accounts, and actually sold them to new players, who use new bean, the blazers, colored shirts. The neon colored Jerseys
Your not realizing that New Bean Body isn't so different
still long loading screen
seeing the devs messages
this is why i support the modding
and do the modding
and they wont ever know my rr usename
in no way is it linked to this name
We donāt need the monologue š„
