Widget Watch

[weary pollen]

millions

[simple stag]

ty for mentioning it b/c I think the mock-up only has 6 in it

[weary pollen]

yeah im close to 10 mil

but there are others with more than that

the old ui token counter could support stupidly high numbers

someone had 3 something octillion negative tokens

[lean bronze]

i would love to visually see this data

[simple stag]

our designers are apparently way ahead of me and planning for this

[lean bronze]

something I've always been interested in is seeing just big sets of data all visually laid out for me to analyze personally to my hearts content

[simple stag]

it's just a little bar with a percent next to it

[lean bronze]

its neat nonetheless

[weary pollen]

i quite hope RR+ lets us change the theme coloring of the widget watch's new style

(similiary to how you could change themes for your popit menu in LBP)

[queen oyster]

.

[simple stag]

outfit equipped occurrence for the groups with the Appearance widget

[weary pollen]

having a gradient color options would be cool

[simple stag]

I'd have to dig in a bit deeper for some of this, but also it's only a day of data so not everything is representative yet

[keen hound]

people get mad at everything and i usually do because most of the time shit sucks but i can see a future for widget watch but its kinda bad rn lol

[keen hound]

They could make themes for widget watch and sell them

[keen hound]

tryna give to the poor 😭😭😭

[weary pollen]

I mean, i would make watch skins if i could

im an avatar studio creator after all

[keen hound]

lmao seems like a fire business rn

[weary pollen]

you betcha

[keen hound]

avatar studio creators rn have a laid out path to riches rn

but anyways watch theme would be awesome so add it to the spreadsheet quothy

[queen oyster]

is it out?

[gleaming stratus]

I honestly wouldn't mind that too much. But have like a dark mode be free

[simple stag]

rollout has been increased! @gilded jasper @severe flare you can check now 🙂

(okay it might take a few minutes to propagate)

[queen oyster]

time to restart my rec room

[simple stag]

you now have an 80% chance

[warm canopy]

Checking myself rn

[gleaming stratus]

Yay

[queen oyster]

oh wow it felt FAAST

[warm canopy]

I don't have it :c

[queen oyster]

quothy explain yourself 🔫

[simple stag]

maybe it's still propagating 🤞

[gleaming stratus]

Fr

[devout whale]

HAHA nerd

[gleaming stratus]

Oh and thank god I have that new mobile button to go to the shop without pressing a button in my watch, truly a life saver

[queen oyster]

yeah i really wish now that we have like star or something in the corner of the profiles that shows online friends

[spring rain]

neither

[queen oyster]

because you are on switch

[keen hound]

Ayyyy i just got it

[spring rain]

i went on mobile

[queen oyster]

then explain the ? on top right corner

[keen hound]

i actually love it, it’s so smooth and faster

[spring rain]

i went on switch ages ago to buy the token bundle with the bee lattes and never played it again

there might be like 45 tokens left on it and now it shows that

you can also see the home bar at the bottom of the image

[warm canopy]

I just got it

Holy heck it really is a lot faster

[devout whale]

took them what, 5 years?

[keen hound]

It’s soo smooth and satisfying and clean

they just need to change up some colors and shapes and stuff

[simple stag]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-meme-kid-gif-14031709

[queen oyster]

i can feel that the watch is faster.

including the time it takes for the watch menu to load everything THIS is 10 times quicker

it opens less in a second

[warm canopy]

My notifications page opened real quick

Sadly it opened to the fact I'm no longer the owner of ^MLMAssets (A project I lead from start to finish and was really proud of )

[simple stag]

it opens in 0.18s

[queen oyster]

thats on PCVR but im experiencing this on Samsung Galaxy a04e, 4GB of ram with 128GB of storage

[simple stag]

because that's how long the hydration effect is configured to take

[queen oyster]

imo the X button should be moved to the same place as the watch menu button is on the screen

also i hope the hand is moved a bit to the left. because its kinda weird opening the watch, the layout is on the left side yet the hand looks like the watch is supposed to be in the middle

[spring rain]

i guess i wasn’t part of that 80%

[gilded jasper]

The new watch is really neat. Keep working on it. 💪

[chrome talon]

Sorry for the ping but I have a clip of the new WW breaking the multiple choice prompt. I unfortunately can’t send any media here sadly is there another way I could send it to you?

[gleaming stratus]

DM it to me and I'll send here

[chrome talon]

I sent it to you

This error does not happen on the older UI only the new WW

[chrome talon]

Thank you

[simple stag]

@chrome talon so wait what does selecting an option from that list do?

like in that set up

[chrome talon]

When you select an option it’s suppose to open another multiple choice with a list of things to do such as change your name color or jump high or fly but on the new watch it doesn’t open the second list

[simple stag]

hmmm

[chrome talon]

I have a delay on it set to 0.2 seconds to help it but it is still failing

[simple stag]

what room is this in?

[chrome talon]

I own the cv2

Build for it

[simple stag]

gotcha

[chrome talon]

If you would like to test it out I can log on and show you

[simple stag]

okay crazy idea, could you try setting the delay to 1 second?

[chrome talon]

Let me try that and see

[simple stag]

not saying it has to stay there, just trying to see if there's a workaround

I think I know what part of the code is getting angry and it's most gremlin-y part ><

[chrome talon]

im not on the new WW so I’ll need my friend to join and test with me because he is on it

[chrome talon]

Setting the delay to 1 second has the same issue

[simple stag]

what about something super extra ridiculous like 5 seconds?

[warm canopy]

I wonder if it's either a WW issue, or if it's the hidden cooldown the Prompt Multiple Choice chip has

[simple stag]

I think it might be that a change we made for WW exposed some gremlins

like I know which bit of code must be misbehaving

it's where my nightmares live

[chrome talon]

5 second is the same. Just fails

[wispy ibex]

Even with the 80% chance I still didn't get it 🥲

The game hates me I fear

[sly ruin]

I was literally just about to make a menu with multiple choice prompts until I saw this 😞

[sleek cobalt]

This ui is a pain in the butt 😭😭

[severe flare]

got the split test!

im still not used to the UI running this good lol

[sly ruin]

HELL YEAHH 🗣️🔥

[sleek cobalt]

So you can select panels to show and not show?

[severe flare]

the only extra feedback i have about it that i didn't already mention is that i think it would feel more satisfying if the button would click back in if you press it

[sly ruin]

I didn't even notice it didn't

[sly ruin]

Not yet no

[sleek cobalt]

Then what does split test do 💀

Nothings different 💀

[sly ruin]

They just increased the amount of people who have it

[sleek cobalt]

Oh lame

Why give it such a cool title for it to be boring af? Split test? Oh no it just gives it to more people 💀

[sly ruin]

They never said anything about another split test

[sleek cobalt]

Wa?

[sly ruin]

Quothy never said there's another split test, just that more people have it

[chrome talon]

I worked so hard on mine it even has name detection on users you affect with it and now it doesn’t work with the new UI 😦

[eager oak]

@silver oyster do have a screen shot of the issue you made a bug report for? #bug-reports message

[simple stag]

how did you know I'm working on a fix for this right now 😄

[severe flare]

oh, sweet! :D

[simple stag]

something about the way I wrote the effect for doing the movement meant that we couldn't stack them . I'm trying to figure out why now

[chrome talon]

I figured out how to fix it. It’s a VERY specific delay of 0.7 😂 and you need to use 3 delays for it to work. It’s very awkward

[simple stag]

I'm really sorry about that one, that's super frustrating

we'll work on figuring out a fix

[chrome talon]

Thank you. Glad I could bring it up to your attention

[runic lava]

I have a weird bug where I cant see ^RecRoyale2Squads for some reason on the widget watch

is there a solution yet?

[simple stag]

what do you mean by "can't see"?

[runic lava]

I cant find ^RecRoyale2Squads in the widget watch, it doesnt appear

[simple stag]

it doesn't show up when you go into the Play menu?

[runic lava]

it does not, i have been trying to figure this out

[simple stag]

I can try to find it real quick

[runic lava]

thank you!

[simple stag]

who's the creator for that room?

[runic lava]

Coach I believe

[simple stag]

oh super weird that I don't see it then

[runic lava]

thats strange

[simple stag]

I'll do some poking around internally

[eager oak]

):

[warm canopy]

They're being sarcastic, that room doesn't exist, but we wish it did (Rec Royale 2) :p

[simple stag]

hahahaha

I have a cold and am not thinking straight, so ty Jay

[spring rain]

not the only one

[queen oyster]

Meanwhile me wishing for rec royale 1:

[severe flare]

What do you play on?

[eager oak]

Android

[scenic nacelle]

How do you struggle to make a main outfit?

[sharp talon]

me rn:

[keen hound]

We need these improvments on the makerpen. Its gotta be the worst thing in the game. But then again theres still bubble uis in the game

[mighty spire]

With the new watch ui, I just hope there will be a way to use the old one, as I knew it well, and I'd pull it up to stop my ps4 from overheating in certain maps. This new ui isn't going to help me with that, and I know I'm probably not a majority when it comes to this factor, I'm just saying :>

[keen hound]

If you look at this chat they are NOT doing toggles. it would be double work for devs and double instabality in the game.

[mighty spire]

Okay. Got it, I'm just not good at things changing, really stresses me out-

[woven heron]

i am so unlucky

i still havent got it 😭

[wispy ibex]

Same unfortunately

[eager oak]

What do we all have in common? We're all from the planet Earth. Lets sue for discrimination for our planet of origin!

[keen hound]

huh

[eager oak]

They flew my hopes high, just to crash them down like Icarus as he approached too close to the sun.

||Over exaggeration||

[wintry karma]

Omg I have it!! 🔥🔥🔥

I'm not gonna stop asking for a home/all the way back button though especially now that I have it

[gilded jasper]

I messed with it for a good 20 minutes or so earlier today.

I don't really have any negative feedback! At least for the specific version I got out of four.

Any pain points I can bring up just have to do with the fact that no other menus are converted but that's so obvious.

On the first tab obviously the games recommended to me are bad... but that's not really a UI issue.

The Widget Watch itself is an excellent start. I can't wait to see what other menus look like when they're converted.

[eager oak]

My alt has it. It's so fast

[woven heron]

oh btw me and my friends have this thing called dynamic dorm (clubhouse that we all spawn in, and we have rooms in it) and it would really help if you made it so the dorm room button is replaced by the clubhouse in the menu since currently there is no quick access to clubhouse like there was before

for the 2 people that use clubhouse as dorm 💀

[echo fractal]

Um bring back the old old

This is actually dog

[open torrent]

This is dog. Cause dogs are cool 👍

[keen hound]

as in dog this is an awesome upgrade

[rigid mist]

People will find a way to hate

[green rover]

chatting in here so i have this channel saved:

so far, i like the widget watch

[last reef]

widget watch is cool for screen mode that interacts menus, party, and even looking up room name.

[scenic nacelle]

This is dog, the devourer of gods

[chilly creek]

Can we be able to colour the menu of our watch to any colour?

[manic summit]

hoping they add that and reordering the buttons 🙏

[vocal moth]

I still dont have it howww

[frigid bloom]

Im gonna check if have the WW but not now

Cuz i need to sleep

[vocal moth]

One of my ALT accounts finally got in and I was able to test it the only thing I don't like is how if you accidentally close it you have to redo everthing and go through the entire watch just to get back to where you were

[queen oyster]

I want to use the isle belt for my main outfit. The laser tag shirts that I try to wear with are overused already. I also tried shirts that aren't laser tag shirts but nope. Either they are too busy or the isle belt clips through them. I tried making a outfit without the isle belt but it makes me uncomfortable.

[open torrent]

Not wearing a specific virtual piece of clothing makes you uncomfortable?

[oblique monolith]

New watch is so ass

[queen oyster]

yeah.

like if i dont have a specific item to go with the fit i dont feel like myself. does that make sense?

[velvet orchid]

this new watch menu is not it. I would rather have to OG menu over this baloney watch menu it’s awfully set out

[queen oyster]

i think in the place of "reccomended for you" it should be rec room originals.

[queen oyster]

weird i got the weirdest bug.

idk how to explain this but when i changed the body scaling and then left the customization menu to the main menu my game started chugging ALOT

also for some reason when i leave the customization menu (without pressing the arrow that brings you to the store for some reason now) it opens the watch again when originally it didnt do that

[scenic nacelle]

Wut

[keen hound]

Whenever i load into a room on vr a massive widget watch is like loaded in the room for like 1 second

[severe flare]

You wanna know what el-

[white sage]

The Widget Watch is amazing i love it! Its a nice change of pace and less laggy, i only had a little trouble finding "This Room" on the watch but i found it at the top section of your " Go to Dorm" button.

[queen oyster]

just got a bug where i just opened the game (or restarted in my case) and the watch doesnt appear for me anymore

oh gosh its so weird

i just went to the customization tab and now i have a current watch menu without the buttons below

[sleek cobalt]

EWWW if you do a multi prompt it brings up your watch afterward 🤮

Quothy PLEASE add a toggle to make it so that part of the watch needs an input for it specifically like trying to enter the watch or going back and not after everything

It takes like 10 more seconds because you can't move and have to wait for it to fully pop up to close it 😫

The fact it shows up forcibly after multi prompts and other things actually makes me hurt

I threw my controller across the room just by how annoying it is 💀

YOOOOOO MY OLD UI IS BACK BABY!!!

I LOVE THIS UI

Quothy please quothy don't get rid of rrui 😭 i will pay you to keep it just for my account idm losing out on new features 🙏🙏

I am begging you to let me keep rrui just for me name your price

If i have to i will locally store the ui on my account so it doesn't need to stay on rec room servers i just really want to keep rrui

There bio says quothy is female 😅 i never looked before sorry

[wispy ibex]

Can you calm tf down maybe

[frigid bloom]

Chill the hell down dude

[sleek cobalt]

I am chill?

Im just yapping? And yall got notifications on or something?

[wispy ibex]

No I just looked at the channel

[frigid bloom]

They are not adding a toggle, end of the story

[sleek cobalt]

Who says you depict what they do?

They might do it or the might not not they will or they wont

[frigid bloom]

They won't

Is too hard to support three whole different uis

[sleek cobalt]

I feel i should be aloud express my opinion for one is within right

[sleek cobalt]

Obviously you didn't read my comment 💀

I said i want a toggle to make it so the home screen only show's when the player personally requests it like opening the watch or going back to that page and not for after doing a multiple choice prompt and stuff

[frigid bloom]

[sleek cobalt]

Me yapping about the three ui models is gone im just begging for me and me alone to keep rrui now

[frigid bloom]

Ye most likely

[severe flare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F28MGLlpP90

[sleek cobalt]

Bro im 16 💀

[severe flare]

thank you :) im really trying

sarcasm? never heard of her!

[gleaming stratus]

That's what they all say

Can you block me please

Thanks man

[severe flare]

yea @sleek cobalt please block me

@sleek cobalt

[gleaming stratus]

LMFAOOOOO

Sure you have bud

I don't think I want proof man

[severe flare]

do you need therapy

[forest cobalt]

Mod Called

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[gleaming stratus]

No I don't dw

[sleek cobalt]

😤

Why am i even bickering with you two yall are blocked anyway

[severe flare]

nah

[gleaming stratus]

Why are you asking us

[forest cobalt]

Report Reviewed

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[sleek cobalt]

Well im not banned yet so 🤷‍♂️

[severe flare]

you're one step closer to getting muted though

if you want RR to have the slightest chance of changing the UI again, actually give constructive criticism by specifically pointing out what's wrong with it and give potential solutions instead of mindlessly raging like that #1346912823531409528 message

its also worth knowing that this isn't the final version of WW. let em cook

[simple stag]

while it's not the final version and has its issues, I for one am glad we shipped it early because we're getting excellent feedback that's helping shape where we're going to take things. If we had just worked on it until it was 'done', then end result would be a lot different

[queen oyster]

what did the deleted message even say?

[gleaming stratus]

I'll DM

[queen oyster]

😭 🔫

[eager oak]

He left and rejoined trying to get unmuted

[mellow fog]

yay i still have the normal watch

[thorn iris]

I think it’s not that good because on the normal watch the tabs on the bottom allow easier navigation and the widget watch doesn’t have widgets that I can customize but the widget watch would be real nice if it was on the place where the chat button is on the hands

[frigid bloom]

I still didn't get the WW :(

[simple stag]

Okay I want to get some specific feedback from all of you who have WW. I've seen the comments around it feeling too easy to lose your place because WW closes any page you have open. I have some hypotheticals solutions and I want to understand if you think each idea would fix it. I'm not promising to implement the ideas, this is more of a thought exercise for now

Scenario: You open the Play menu and navigate to the RROs page. Then you open WW, which closes the Play menu. Then you re-open the Play menu from the WW portal panel again.

Current behavior: the Play menu opens to the Highlights page and you have to navigate back to the RROs page to get back to where you were.

Hypothetical different behavior:

1. The Play menu opens back to the RROs page.
2. The Play menu never closes, instead it stays open/moves off to the side/whatever. It only closes if you open up some other menu (let's say the People menu)

Also happy to hear specific scenarios where you feel like you lost your place when you were doing something, it'll help us make sure that whatever we come up with accounts for each situation

[scenic nacelle]

Nevermind I don't have the watch

[queen oyster]

that kind of thing happens in the current watch menu too.

hell every single game has something like this if they are millions and probably even BILLIONS away from the intentional place you were supposed to be at.

[simple stag]

We are gonna fix the wobbly UI issue once and for all at some point, just waiting on some help from another team because the solution is a bit gnarly

[devout whale]

no idea how it even happens

[cunning slate]

This is unrelated to the above thing, I just wanted to share my thoughts now that I’ve actually tried it:

-I love the way it looks.
-It feels good to use. I don’t feel that I’m missing anything when pressing the UI, unlike the main UI that is not much fun at all. I find that a UI is either bad or unnoticeable, and this one is the latter. Good work.
-I like the sounds.
-I don’t like that I can’t move while it’s open. My gamer instincts tell me that I should be able to move while I have it open; I’m not sure I can elaborate, but the whole thing makes me think I can still move, but I can’t, so it feels off. I think it would be better on the other side so I could still use the joy stick—even better, leave space somewhere so I can turn, too.
-It feels like I’m not being separated from the game. The watch is a brick wall between the game and I every time I open it, but this is subtle; I feel like I’m still there, you know? Partly because it’s small, I imagine, and partly because it’s still spacious—probably dim too;
-I like the colour pallet.

I don’t have thoughts on the layout yet as I haven’t used it enough.

[queen oyster]

idk how to explain this well but it happens if you are too far away from the original location. as you are more far away the more glitchier the visuals gets. this happens with any game wether it be mario odyssey, rec room, fortnite. et cetera. someone on roblox even made a game just to show how glitchy this can become.

there was a name for this but idk what it is

[simple stag]

It's basically this. I'll just add that the wobbliness of the visuals comes from the numbers involved getting really big and less accurate. The possible error involved makes things render in slightly the wrong place, making it look wobbly

Pretty sure it's just floating point error for the name

[queen oyster]

hmm not really sure tbh. but im not a 3D game developer.

[keen hound]

I know people who make games in unity and i think its not really a rr problem its more of a unity problem

[terse lagoon]

I’m noticing after a paintball match ends the widgets watch opens

[frigid bloom]

Floating point glitch?

[keen hound]

I agree with everything but i think the colors could be more playful. Its better than what we have now but were kind of missing that rr orange

[queen oyster]

every game has this problem

[queen oyster]

yeah its that.

[eager oak]

I will make a game without it

[frigid bloom]

We can't forget the iconic RR orange

[keen hound]

yeah im saying its really not rr's fault

[gleaming stratus]

Is it trying to open the reward menu?

[keen hound]

I’m gonna hop in illustrator and mess around with some coolors

[frigid bloom]

When will the widget watch roll to more people?

[gleaming stratus]

It did recently, I don't think it'll be 100% for a bit though

[terse lagoon]

That’s what I was thinking

[atomic crystal]

ill trade you my widget watch and 4 tokens for your old ui

[simple stag]

okay follow up thought experiment to the first one-

Scenario with current behavior:

1. You open WW and go to the Play menu.
2. After browsing a bit, you get a notification that a friend is online.
3. You open up WW, which closes the Play menu
4. You use the Party widget Create Party button to open the People menu and invite them to join you
5. You invite your friend.
6. You open WW, which closes the People menu
7. You return to the Play menu via the Portal panel.
8. The Play menu open to the default page (Highlights) rather than where ever you were before

Hypothetical Scenario (with a combo of the previous 2 suggestions):

1. You open WW and go to the Play menu
2. After browsing a bit, you get a notification that a friend is online.
3. You open WW, which slides the Play menu off to side
4. You use the Party widget Create Party button to open the People menu and invite them to join you
5. You invite your friend
6. You open WW, which slides the People menu to the side
7. You use the Portal panel to re-open the Play menu, which closes the People menu and reopens the Play menu
8. The Play menu re-opens to whatever page you were on before

[atomic crystal]

in my opinion the widget watch is too small
layout is horrible

sucks to use on screen mode

too many clicks to go to stuff that you could have gone to in one click with the unoptimized ui

[terse lagoon]

Are we talking about the same ui?

[gleaming stratus]

On screen? What else are you using it on

[eager oak]

I just found a big oversight when messing with an alt. Since we can't currently access "this room" it is much more tedious to save the room.

[simple stag]

You can access this room by clicking on the room name on the top widget on the Quick Access page

[eager oak]

Oh

[simple stag]

We need to make it look more clickable

[eager oak]

Yeah

I didn't even notice it said the room name.

Okay, it does.

[keen hound]

Speaking of looking more clickable i would suggest making the profile button more apparent that its a button

[simple stag]

yeah the profile button would get the same treatment

[keen hound]

im working on my concept for what i would like the colors for widget watch to look like

[lean bronze]

I am having a weird time using the widget watch because when I open it I expect to be able to like get to my stuff quickly (like access the play menu and such)

But instead I have to navigate to a seperate section to do that because it starts me off in the dynamic section

[queen oyster]

the profile button should have the separate big button on the side. and basically show it like how facebook shows their profiles.

[eager oak]

I think I've noticed somewhat of a trend. People who used the 3D UI seem to like the new one more than people who've only got to use the 2D UI.

I could be wrong, but that's what I think I've noticed

[fiery ibex]

i have the split test for WW on phone, and i got to say, it is fantastic on phone

all the home menu watch buttons, all in range of my left thumb

absolutely wondeful

[keen hound]

Does anyone here have image perms i have finished my concept

[gleaming stratus]

Bet

[near bane]

Is there an option to revert it? I personally don’t like it

[keen hound]

No and there wont be unfortunatley. It would be way too unstable to support 2 uis at once.

[near bane]

Bruh…

Navigating it will be too difficult

Especially since the main menu buttons have been moved and clumped up in another section instead of it showing up instantly

[near bane]

It’s difficult to navigate for me

[scenic nacelle]

Guys I have an idea
Let's let quothy and her team finish the ui while receiving feedback from us at the same time so then when its done we can say anything about the watch
Deal?

Navigating the watch shouldn't be difficult at all since everything is pretty much right in front you you the words are there and if you need to learn how to use it just click around buttons

All I can say is just use your context clues

Full body on the other hand
Yeah meh this is clearly a more important change and its being worked on properly with transparency

[rigid mist]

?????

[rigid marten]

basically its difficult to navigate

[rigid mist]

How so?

[scenic nacelle]

Because you've been playing roblox for 212 hours

[buoyant shadow]

I would love if when there is Activity Box menu, when closed up it won't close to home UI it would stay as it it because i had the dude sweater in 2th time when i got it but i closed menu by accident and i didn't got it

[warm canopy]

My only piece of feedback: Please remember the page I was on when closing the watch and reopen to that page instead of WW

[green trench]

thiss!!

[lean bronze]

Nah even then it's still super hard to navigate for me

[scenic nacelle]

Learn it

[lean bronze]

I often spend 5+ seconds trying to find the button I need to press because theres no "visual separation"

Colors would help a lot

[scenic nacelle]

Learn it like everything else

[eager oak]

I was first always lost with the 2D UI. Could be because it's new, but I know that's not the only reason

[lean bronze]

Completely unrelated to my feedback but okay

[scenic nacelle]

I don't understand its just words?

[lean bronze]

Its words with reason and a simple "just learn it lmao" isnt the thing I need to take away from it to have a workaround for a problem I am experiencing

yes I am obviously learning it still, but it doesnt mean my feedback is completely invalid because I'm learning it

[scenic nacelle]

Wut

[lean bronze]

I think this is what they should do with it. Colors help with visual separation of the different functions, and it prevents it from making it all merge into one

[scenic nacelle]

I just said learn it like how you learn how to get through a quest

[lean bronze]

yeah but the way you were wording it made it sound like you were invalidating my feedback because I "have not learned it yet"

however: do keep it mind, learning (or training) to do something should be over in at most 5 minutes.

It shouldnt take a person a few hours of constantly using an interface to get used it it, it should be seamless

But yeah we should let em cook before going futher

[green rover]

everyone is entitled to their opinion 👍

[runic lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162582071299031070/1348049204760809502/attachment.gif

[sly ruin]

Very helpful feedback

[tawdry marsh]

think before you speak please

[runic lava]

nasty friends

[sly ruin]

Guess what, it's a work in progress

Whatever, your opinion is yours. I'm not gonna entertain the ragebait

[runic lava]

you tell em, buddy! proud of you for speaking your mind. how was kindergarten today?

[sly ruin]

Lol you literally said to murder the rec room staff

^

[runic lava]

ts pmo icl

atp js

[queen oyster]

Oh wow, such a helpful suggestion

Listen here punk. Rather than saying "DELETR THIS AMD KILL ALL THE STAFF!!!111" Give a actual reason WHY you hate it. Don't be a egg head ok? If you treat someone ass, don't be suprised if you get banned from the discord server or same thing happen to you.

[placid sonnet]

16 btw

[desert lichen]

i for one don’t think death threats are cool but that’s just me👍

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[jovial verge]

Oooooooo

[candid raven]

Will there be a way to go back to the watch before this

Like the old watch because I don’t really like the new one

[normal salmon]

Does anyone else have problems if u want to open something like if u use a rank system it bugges out

And I just don’t like the new watch can I have the old one back my @ is The-Real-Eddie

😃

[vocal moth]

They saying that because they confirmed they wont

[near bane]

No I’m used to using the old UI so when everything changed it set me off

[eager oak]

@simple stag Have you got any plans to add tokens to the widget watch?

[simple stag]

yup! It's actually planned for the next big iteration on WW where we add a third panel

[eager oak]

Ooh, interesting! Looking forward to see it!

[cursive vector]

forgive me if this has been aswered feel free to redirect me but are there any plans at having a legacy mode or is it unable to for performace reasons?
no real issue with this new UI just seeing as i mainly use RR for moving inbetween subrooms/room creation its only a slight inconvinence to re-learn the menu
other then that personally i enjoy the layout

[queen oyster]

quothy said no on that.

[cursive vector]

i misread forgive my dislexia

😭 tysm tho!

[buoyant shadow]

It may be unrelated to Widget watch but i would love to see download RRstudio maps in widget watch

[keen hound]

Is this ui eventually going to be the rest of the uis or is it just watch

[keen hound]

Forgot to mention but i made this concept for a more playful vibe

it’s a little cursed but works

[gleaming stratus]

All (eventually)

[keen hound]

Crazy seeing how there’s still the og bubble menus in the game

[simple stag]

As long as this is well-received, we'd start converting everything over to the same style

[gleaming stratus]

I think it'll only be well received more once there's more consistently

One of the main things people don't like at the moment is that there are 3 different UIs

[simple stag]

yeah, that's fair. Fwiw we are leaning in the direction of moving everything over right now

[gleaming stratus]

Epic

I reckon once the play and people UIs are converted, it'll be a lot better

After some time though, obviously people don't like change even though it's for the better

[keen hound]

And kind of related but not is the challenges menu. Either redo and upgrade daily’s, bring back weekly’s, or even just get rid of the damn thing. I’m sure yall have the stats about daily’s and i wonder if people even do them.

[terse lagoon]

COME ON GRAVITY PULSE GUY1!!!

[green sable]

WE NEED THIS WATCH GONE!

[deft plank]

I dont think this is the best Ui Ive seen. Only thing I can say is really decent is optimalization. If the old Ui(current one) would be on same. There are 3 menus in the damn game so make up your mind what will be the main one. Give up this current one if you never make it a VR thing or cant figure out how to do it now.

Even that. Make it more customizable at least.

[eager oak]

Are you guys ever going to translate the widget watch?

Like for different languages

[simple stag]

Tooltips and localization support will be in the ship for the week of 3/17

[simple stag]

We're working on VR now and we can definitely make it good, it just takes time. This is our first iteration and we're using this approach so we can quickly learn from player feedback what needs to improve. I understand change is frustrating, but I'd much rather be hearing what you all think early than waiting until it's all converted to ship and learn that we made a mistake and wasted all that work. We're only human and we're doing our best

[eager oak]

Ohh. I'm in the UK. Will I still be able to use my desired language?

[simple stag]

Yup! It'll reflect whatever language you have set for the game. Well most of the text will, there's a few we're waiting on translations for

[eager oak]

Awesome :D Thanks!!! :)

[quiet snow]

I'm really loving the new widget watch right now but the pet peeves i have right now is whenever i look at my watch and then close it, it fully resets my progress making me to then redo what i just redid. And being a moderator make's my life 10x more difficult to report someone because if i close my watch and reopen it im going to have to find the user and redo all my progress instead of being able to open my watch last time where it was. If you added a toggle option where you could have it so you could reopen your watch on where you last had it would be nice and maybe add back the buttons at the bottom as I hate having to close my watch to then reopen it to go to a new menu.

[queen oyster]

yeah this is the issue i have too. sometimes i go and used to open leaderboard in like quests just so i can see how many points i have but now with the WW i cannot do that. hope it gets patched tho. it would be super duper lovely

[simple stag]

Fixing the navigation issues is going to be priority number 1 this week

[simple stag]

Would this be solved with a change that makes it so when you go back to the menu (like the people menu), it opens to the page you were already on?

[quiet snow]

Yes exactly that

and if possible add the menu buttons that used to be on the watch so if we wanted to go to a new menu we wouldn't have to close the watch or have to go back to the widget watch to then go to a new menu.

[uncut gull]

I’m really curious as to how the ww would function on vr

[deft plank]

I understand it takes time but isn't it a waste of money and time with changing Ui so frequently?
I can tell you, this feels like a cheap shopping strategy by changing the layout of the shop so you wander around more and possibly buy more than you intended.
Please make this Ui to be the final one for next decade.

[deft plank]

Probably it isn't priority as we know from past :)

[uncut gull]

Thank golly gosh

I don’t wanna learn a new UI yet

[weary pollen]

the new watch sometimes just goes away and you gotta relaunch

[queen oyster]

yeah that happened to me the entire day yesterday

it fixed when i went into a different room

[deft plank]

I'm sadly part of the split test.

[uncut gull]

buy a vr to avoid it idk

[deft plank]

I have VR but let's say it's not worth playing RR on VR anymore.

I play screen. Got matching against VR people.
I play VR. Got matchmaking against screen people.
Ain't worth playing it that way.

[supple scroll]

Am have this issue with the widget watch where when i play a rro im not getting boxes or if i am its just tries to show me the 3 item options then just goes in to the new widget watch screen so then i cant pick anything then i just dont get a box in the end i thought to share his to see if anyone is having this same issue @simple stag

[neon ibex]

I pray that this goes away 🙏

[fiery ibex]

can we have the nuclear bright green watch menu where it gives you radiation poisoning when it’s open

[eager oak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162582071299031070/1348049204760809502/attachment.gif

[simple stag]

I'll add this to our list as a high pri fix for this week. As long as we can figure it out, we should be able to get a fix into the ship that goes out the week of 3/17

[eager oak]

I feel there should be a temporary workaround in the mean time

[simple stag]

If we figure one out while testing, I will definitely share it

[eager oak]

Imagine getting the 250 tokens option, then it closes itself and gives film.

When there is something in the shop that you want, and that'd be enough tokens to get you there.

Even without the last part, it'd still be very annoying

[simple stag]

It's not a decision we made lightly. Trust me, this isn't exactly fun on our end either 😅. We decided it was necessary based on a mix of very vocal negative player feedback about the current UI, clear UX issues in the current UI, and the current UI being a constraint limiting what we can do in the future.

Once we port it all over, we're not doing this again

[simple stag]

We held back on the VR version because making it a good 3D experience is a priority. I understand the past UI changes haven't been handled with a lot of transparency and have been particularly painful for VR players, but we're doing our best to handle this one differently

[deft plank]

Weren't handled with a transparency. I think fixing stuff with current Ui would be better. If Maker Pen gets rework Im all in.

[wispy ibex]

Saving this

I'll need to use it a LOT in this server

[simple stag]

Fixing the current UI requires rebuilding it anyway, so we might as well try to find a better way to do things than what we currently have

[deft plank]

I think people asked only for optimalization.

[gleaming stratus]

This is optimization

[deft plank]

And dark mode.

[gleaming stratus]

That is also coming

[simple stag]

We have received a ton of negative feedback about the current UI, not just around optimization

[gleaming stratus]

90% of it being that they're not instantly used to the new UI 💔

[deft plank]

One for current Ui. It was an dev only feature but they gave up

[simple stag]

It's become a bit of a running joke that whenever we run a survey or ask players for feedback about the game, the current UI is inevitably mentioned in a bad way

(a sad joke that makes us cry a bit on the inside)

[gleaming stratus]

Dark mode is coming to widget watch

[deft plank]

Of course it is. I even say that but it's mostly lag I got or orientation around it.

[simple stag]

It's also overwhelming to navigate around

[deft plank]

This one doesn't even need that. Widget watch Ui is made with darker colors and not pure orange and white.

[gleaming stratus]

There's like a little bit of brown and black

[deft plank]

Still it's not a flash bang while in a dark room.

[gleaming stratus]

And would not want more options to change your UI to how you want it? And who knows, we might get even more colour options in the future

[deft plank]

That one would be cool. Better to have a background you want but as we know... RR+

[gleaming stratus]

I wouldn't mind, they've said they will be adding more to RR+ to make it more worth it, and if that's one of the things then fair enough

[deft plank]

For the widget ui. Can you make the 4 dots menu as a default thab the lightning one? I don't know how to call them.

[gleaming stratus]

Yeah that's something I agree with, that's the UI I would use more over the current default

[simple stag]

So question on that - if the Portal menu (4 dots) was your default, would you ever go to the Quick Access panel (lightning bolt) for anything?

[deft plank]

Yeah.

[deft plank]

Quick access panel should hold This room tab for now. I use that one often so yeah.

[indigo kindle]

Id say, anything that isn't an instant click from the 4 dots page should be there. Like Recently visted rooms (please add this)
If it take 2+ clicks to get there, it should be on the quick access page. Or simply make the quick access page customizable so we can have what we want on quick access?

[deft plank]

Recommend for you should be changed for the continue playing. Or anything you want it to be like RROs or favorites.

[indigo kindle]

Yeah, maybe have set things on that page. Like one being a room carousel, and you can switch it between favorites, recommend, recently visted and more

then this is also where you'd have like a people's carousel, and be able to show only favorites or everyone 🤷‍♂️

[simple stag]

It'll be interesting to see what you all think once we add a third panel to WW

[south copper]

𝕴𝖘 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖂𝖂 𝖔𝖓 𝖛𝖗?

[green rover]

been debating on whether or not i should post this video in here, since it's self promo, but i figured it might be useful for the devs to see, and i also want some feedback, so here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQxOCKZqbBw

feel free to delete if it's not allowed 👍

[buoyant shadow]

I have really frustating thing about widget watch, when opening watch in other tab like backpack and pressing TAB again it just closes it to main manu of widget watch

[jovial verge]

I like the colored UI (the pink one), but I’m wondering if people would buy watch themes in the store.
Or kinda how Nitro works on Discord Recroom: plus users just get more themes than normal players (normal players should have the normal UI and a darker UI).

[worthy hamlet]

I dont like it

[simple stag]

Ngl we're looking at the discord nitro approach as inspiration

[jovial verge]

:D

[simple stag]

Tbh it's been great hearing you all suggest things that were actively considering for features to make RR+ more valuable to players. Personally I think there's a lot we can do there that's UI related (but I'm a biased person who pays for nitro and uses a custom theme on discord haha)

[gilded jasper]

at least make dark mode free

if you folks chase the themes options for paywalling

(which in my opinion is completely valid)

[indigo kindle]

rec room is going to start selling UI colors like discord sells pfp stuff

[gilded jasper]

well yeah they kind of do need to sell stuff

[indigo kindle]

$5 per color

[gilded jasper]

Anything that isn't pushing low effort play menu content or lore items is fine by me

[green rover]

i would personally be okay with color themes being locked to RR+. which might be controversial, but like genuinely, that's okay.

that being said, i hope that a dark theme is free, like Discord.

i kind of wish that i made a dark theme UI concept for the video i made, but oh well

[gleaming stratus]

Please don't lock basic QoL stuff behind RR+ 🙏 extra stuff like more themes past light and dark is great, but making it so non-rr+ users just have a worse experience isn't gonna help the amount of people enjoying the game

[indigo kindle]

do how vrchat is doing it, that works

[gilded jasper]

yeah like it's no longer a point of argument about Rec Room being greedy, they genuinely do need all the help they can get

however, the ball is in their court to ship features that monetize fairly and effectively, and I really hope they can get there

[simple stag]

It's important to me that basic QoL is there for everyone and I'm very loud about that internally 😁

[strong cedar]

The new menu breaks a few aspects of the game.

Some being its been breaking Multiple Choice Prompt and other prompts.

It breaks the here now menu at times making scrolling not work.

Menu State Persistence is no longer a thing.

Makes you go third person and doesnt allow usage of menu until reopened which is sometimes a hassle.

The menu design in general is less efficient in most ways. Takes more clicks to do some things

[gleaming stratus]

EPIC

[simple stag]

imo RR+ features should be 'plus'/extra

[simple stag]

Can you elaborate on the 'makes you go third person' bit? The others sound like issues we know we need to get fixes in for

[strong cedar]

When you open the menus it sometimes when changing from the Widget watch to the other menu type it'll send you into third person or your menu is farther away.

And that may be also more consistently done whilst in third person, I haven't tested a lot

[gilded jasper]

a lot of CV2 needs to be retrofitted to work with widget watch, unfortunately it's a pain that the old RRUI is so deeply integrated into the game (yet also not integrated enough considering how many pages still use the even older Bubble UI)

[simple stag]

Oh do you mean when the menu shows up in a weird position behind widget watch rather than fully opened?

[gilded jasper]

I'm sure if people submit bug reports or talk in this channel about what specific issues need to be fixed, they will be fixed within the next month or two

[strong cedar]

I guess, i don't know the best words for it, but i could see if I can replicate the things happening

[simple stag]

Yeah I'm going to be as clear as possible on what ships fixes will be in when we get them going

We have a small window at the beginning of this week to fix bugs found in the shipped version and get them into the following week's ship. We'll be focusing on the CV2 and rewards related bugs tomorrow for sure

[strong cedar]

Will there be menu persistence added as well?

[simple stag]

By that do you mean the menu preserving history of where you were when on it last?

[green rover]

kind of wish i made this for my video, but since y'all were talking about it, here's a rough concept of what a dark mode could look like

i would have done the whole menu, but the way i did it, it would have taken forever 😭

[jovial verge]

Here’s what I did where the boxes are colored instead of the logos

[green rover]

ooo, yea that looks really good lol

[simple stag]

I'll add this to our pile of player-inspiration

[jovial verge]

I wonder what actual themes would look like… like one themed around an RRO…

I’ll try to make one for MLM bc it would probably be easy.. idk

[spring rain]

that’s peak

[jovial verge]

Wether some themes are locked behind Rec Room+ or sold in the store as long as we got themes I’m good

[severe flare]

how would it look if the menu was a shade/gradient of purple as the dark mode, similar to the UI that we got briefly in 2020?

that looks really good though

[green rover]

honestly not sure. that's how i was going to make it, but i couldnt figure out a way to make it look good, so i settled for this instead

[spring rain]

we never got a dark mode

[severe flare]

i know

lemme see if i can try to make a rough mockup real quick

[keen hound]

Speaking of colors this is my concept and it works the smoothest in my opinion

[wispy ibex]

Unrelated but based silver pfp

[green rover]

ty lol

[strong cedar]

Yes it used to allow us to bring it up and it would stay on the last used menu

And got another glitch now

When using a Multiple choice prompt and using it, like a RP's Rank system, or such it may sometimes permanently break the watch until you are either forced out the room, or reset your game, meaning all me and some other players would only see the hand and no menu

[severe flare]

rough mockup???

yea the black is better than purple

[frigid bloom]

the old RRUI lol

[severe flare]

i hate that im already somewhat nostalgic for that purple UI

[eager oak]

I like the purple.

[simple stag]

alright I have another fun data fact for you all. This is actually the largest % increase I've ever seen on a value. The variant with the Appearance widget + Dynamic behavior (so you can see the Consumables widget) has increased the number of views of the Consumables section of the store by 4 million percent 😂

[uncut gull]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but shouldn’t the main focus be rooms2 features? I’m not too sure why making consumables more reachable would be a good thing considering rec room has been pushing for rooms2 (hence room inventory items) like crazy

Maybe I’m just getting this all wrong, but it feels genuinely backwards to me to support that

[simple stag]

We picked a feature that we thought could encourage creating 'fun' moments between people and that isn't very emphasized right now. It was also us asking the question "hey do players think these are fun still?"

We do want to create a widget to emphasize room-specific items when those are available, but it's more of a follow-up

[uncut gull]

yeah I will say, consumables are rather in the dark so to speak in effectively all rooms, I just want to see even more love given to rooms2 is all, it’s already shaping up to be something great

[eager oak]

Hacking Rec Room and cancelling RoomsV2 now.

[simple stag]

tbh I haven't spoken directly with that crew about what we can specifically do for WW + R2, but I'll make sure to do that this week. Thanks for calling it out!

[uncut gull]

Some things I would love to see added specifically for Rooms2 are the following

1. access to equipment slots via the ww
2. direct access to inventory items backpack
3. custom storefront buttons that directly open a storefronts item page
4. custom programable buttons that allow for a user to click said button and have a cv2 output signal event of said interaction

[earnest igloo]

Pay extra close attention to how you'll handle going back through and between different sections of the UI, Rec Room has always been pretty bad with this where it can end up hard to navigate from one menu to another and then back, or quickly opening up one menu resets how deep you were in a different one or doesn't remember how far you had scrolled, etc etc.
Also of the two tabs—the 4 squares and the lightning bolt—i personally think the 4 sqaures one with all the buttons should be the default to open, i more often want to check various things between my friends online to my backpack to my notifications than i want to check what room or anything to go to next.
Also also, there needs to be something more to indicate the room name in the quick menu is clickable, the "this room" button is incredibly important for navigation and i think should be more clearly shown. I think some of the buttons like this room and the dorm/rec center buttons should be included in the main 4 square tab too, it should have all of the buttons.
Also also also, you've probably heard this one plenty but the buttons/button icons really really need more colour

[earnest igloo]

I dunno, the current one tanks performance remember? I definitely would prefer if this new one had the same colour scheme as the current one, i'm not the biggest fan of it, but i have high hopes that it will cut down on some of the lag—not having a ton of room and store thumbnails on the main page

[jovial verge]

Your British?

Huh…

[earnest igloo]

Australian

Could you tell because of the probable timezone, or because of the "ou" when i write "colour"? 😆

[jovial verge]

Colour … but Australian is still very surprising

[scenic nacelle]

I know its been a few days but I'm curious on what the widget watch looks like right now

[elder carbon]

Watch closes when a prompt is open

forcing the prompt to close

[alpine temple]

2 bug with the WW

1. WW hate the RRS HUD for some reason
2. Both of my menus opened at once when just using the WW normally
   https://discord.com/channels/193073071802941451/1347700519787036722

[simple stag]

1. We have a fix being tested to make the RR Studio HUD and WW get along. I'll confirm once it makes it in, but we're targeting next week's ship
2. We're doing our best to fix this one, we might have a fix, but I need to confirm

[misty wolf]

idk how to explain this but

whenever a page is opened and i close my watch with widget watch it will close the page entirely then i'll have to go back and open the page i was on again

will we have something where your page will stay opened after closing your WW in the future?

[simple stag]

This is something we're working on a fix for and we consider pretty high priority to fix. We have a few ideas that we're currently working through and I'll be posting updates in this thread when we know when a fix will ship

[misty wolf]

will screenmode have 3d buttons?

[simple stag]

buttons in screen mode will be 2D with a pseudo-3D effect like they currently are on WW. Buttons in VR are still TBD on whether they will be VR or not

TBD = to be determined

[misty wolf]

so screemode wont have 3D buttons?

[simple stag]

does screenmode need 3D buttons?

[misty wolf]

well, i liked the 3D buttons more than the 2D ones and I was playing before the og ui was removed

and i dont play RR on VR i play only on screen, I haven't used a vr in my life

[simple stag]

gotcha. We're keeping it to the pseudo-3D effect for performance reasons, but we want to make sure they feel cool to interact with

[misty wolf]

nice, i didn't like it from the start but im getting used to it now because the more i look at it the more it reminds me of the og ui imo

[simple stag]

glad to hear it! We were definitely trying to evoke some of that old 3D button feel with the WW buttons. We're also really excited to continue updating and expanding WW, so let us know if there's anything we can do to help make it better

[tribal gate]

is being able to keep the game scoreboards open without having to go to them back everytime going to be a thing with the WW?

cuz the old ui the game scoreboards stayed until u closed it in the menu but now u have too reopen it every time

[misty wolf]

thats basically a question i asked there will be a fix to this soon

[woven heron]

when is the next split test expansion happening?

[simple stag]

We're maxed out for the run of the test, unfortunately. We have about 3-4 more weeks before we decide whether to roll it out to everyone or not

[frigid bloom]

Oh an please for the love of coach. Please update all of the UI so it doesn't look inconsistent

Every. Single. One

[simple stag]

so far feedback is trending in the direction of going this direction

if we go that route, I will be committed

[uncut gull]

Free cake pops to everyone split test when

[simple stag]

I want to delete all the old UI from the codebase so bad

[uncut gull]

Wait this isn’t general, I’m not meant to shitpost here

[simple stag]

I don't mind some shitposting

[uncut gull]

https://tenor.com/view/professional-tf2-sniper-standard-have-gif-6626361308713432645

[simple stag]

https://tenor.com/view/portal-glados-robot-gaming-gameplay-gif-7976738888603155703

[frigid bloom]

Old code=bad performance

[simple stag]

more like old code == bloat

[uncut gull]

Rewrite old code = easier said than done

[simple stag]

and makes it confusing for other people trying to build UI

the new systems do work really well though

and I'm not only saying that because I wrote them

[keen hound]

We still have bubble menus in the game lol. Maybe just delete them because who uses the block menu anyways (joke.. kind of)

[frigid bloom]

Also after seeing the WW a bit, i think the style of it looks kind of good

[frigid bloom]

The radio menu still uses that mix between the beta an current bubble ui

[uncut gull]

it’s definitely different, I’m not opposed to it, I’m just moreso a bit off put now that we have 3 different UI elements, and 1 of them can’t even function without the original backend code

[keen hound]

One other thing. The og MP ui appears randomly half working when using some tools. Why is it still in the game and shouldnt it be causing instability and "bloat"

But not just that other stuff in general is kind of jank like that lmao

[woven heron]

good luck rewriting all the 3d uis and the garbage code that probably was

like the pallete for makerpen

[frigid bloom]

Roblox an rec room always have something in common lol

[woven heron]

when you see inventions

[frigid bloom]

Theres atleast a single part of the ui that isn't updated

[simple stag]

i'm gonna be so excited when we start converting stuff

and we just churn out some new pages

[keen hound]

Me as welll

[keen hound]

if you ever need ideas im an unpaid unofficial intern lmao

[uncut gull]

Wage theft my beloved

[frigid bloom]

The only thing i don't like is that the colors aren't that colorful or "rec room" like

[frigid bloom]

That could change if we get themes (please don't put em behind a paywall)

Fuck i forgot to put a word

Ignore the previous one lololl

Typotypo

[simple stag]

ngl we might do something like that though

it's not that different than what a lot of other apps do, like discord with nitro

and something's gotta pay the bills

[frigid bloom]

Maybe putting some behind RR+ could work, but please do it right an don't follow discord's steps lol

By that i mean like, make them something original an not just some gradients slapped onto the ui

I forgot another word again mb mb

[simple stag]

yeah that's fair

discord did just kinda go "gradients! okay we're done"

[uncut gull]

imo, rr should go all out with rr+ features

Make it something worth buying, not just some generic subscription because hehe 6000 tokens over a month

Yeah that’s nice, but when every item is like… +6k tokens? Yeah that’s kind of pointless long term

[keen hound]

I had an idea for like contest winners they get a custom profile theme and shi

[frigid bloom]

An like i said, DON'T. FOLLOW. DISCORD'S STEPS

[simple stag]

from what I've seen, we're very much focused on making RR+ actually worth it

[uncut gull]

Profile banners RR+ (these display as a background over your avatar in the profile page)

[simple stag]

there's been a lot of great suggestions and talk internally

[keen hound]

ayy so nick fajita wasnt lying

[simple stag]

I'm never gonna be able to unsee that

[frigid bloom]

Most benefits you get from Nitro are really basic that they are not justified being behind a paywall

[simple stag]

but all my emojis

[runic lava]

make paid quality rros with them being free in a rr+ subscription

[keen hound]

and most servers turn off like external emojis

[frigid bloom]

Yea, paying for something that'll most likely be blocked

[keen hound]

not for me 😭

[frigid bloom]

Thats what we call, being greedy 🤑 💵 💰

[uncut gull]

Make a repeat subscription bonus, if you’ve subscribed for 6+ times you get a fancy maker pen skin idk

[keen hound]

NO KEEP MP SKINS FOR CONTEST ONLY

[simple stag]

i like my little sharky boys

[uncut gull]

do not gatekeep something that does not require it

[keen hound]

we already lost contest items being special due to ugc we cant lose makerpens

[frigid bloom]

I wanna use animated emojis an such but because discord wants money, they say nope 🫩

[keen hound]

ok anyways back to widget watch

[uncut gull]

Contest pens should only be 3D to show off their “prestige”

Any other maker pen should default to always being 2D

Unfortunately they never went this route

and now people will fight tooth and nail over a digital item skin

[frigid bloom]

Also any plans for the WW to be kinda similar to how the windows 8.x-10 start menu works?

[uncut gull]

“Oh no what will I gatekeep now to flex over a random person who I have no clue of”

if that’s your logic behind it, you don’t deserve your contest stuff

[simple stag]

on a UI-but-not-WW note, if you log into RR you now have a 50% chance to be in an optimization split test (only being split test to make sure we didn't drop the ball on something an introduce bugs...again)

[frigid bloom]

Like with the apps being in squares that you can move to your like, that was my favorite part of windows 8

[keen hound]

any way to tell or no>

[gilded jasper]

i already hit 390fps on my dorm room with RRUI but sure I'll take 400+

[uncut gull]

Don’t open a UI page, worst mistake of my life

[simple stag]

the font on the top right "View More"/"Similar Content" label on room carousels on Home and Play pages will be different

[quiet snow]

Me only getting 113

[simple stag]

windows 8 was so cursed though 😭

[frigid bloom]

Yea, idk why they went with the tablet thing

[simple stag]

I liked win8 because I had a touch screen laptop. It was great for touch screen. It was very not great for regular keyboard/mouse

[keen hound]

the widget watch works great on my samsung fridge!

[gilded jasper]

i straight up skipped windows 8

wasn't dealing with all of that

[frigid bloom]

An considering the disaster that sparkled on launch...

[simple stag]

i remember doing a sorta-kinda UX study thing when I was doing my masters with a bunch of coworkers trying win 8 for the first time

it gave me a better appreciation for designing for multiple types of input

somehow, this was well before the point in my career when I started focusing on UI

[frigid bloom]

An gosh whoever made the metroUI really did a good job

Its like a combo between the modern an basic UIs

[simple stag]

Microsoft is full of great ideas and terrible timing for those ideas 😩

[keen hound]

Like different boldness?

[simple stag]

i experienced that first hand

[hearty path]

Tell them to give us premium dorm rooms 🙂

[simple stag]

yup! the font looks a little bolder and less thin/tall

[keen hound]

Ah i got it. Vr or just screen?

[frigid bloom]

Microsoft will remember vista:

[simple stag]

it matches the font for the room names if you're in the split test

[simple stag]

everything 🙂

i'm excited to see how much it improves hitching on VR

[eager oak]

You can use any emoji here if you have member+

[hearty path]

Oh did a new version of the WW come out?

[simple stag]

nah, this is a Home/Play page optimization thing I just (re-)re-launched

running it for a few days as a split test to make sure I didn't break more things

[keen hound]

har i just made a new acc thats why

[woven heron]

technically, you could run rr on a samsung smart fridge

(those fridges are just android phones, which means you can either sideload or normally download apps!)

or to be correct, older samsung smart fridges ran android

the modern ones unfortunately run TizenOS aka the samsung smart TV operating system

[hearty path]

Ah okay 👍 excited to see the next page!

[simple stag]

I will keep you all posted (and maybe share out some spoilers here when we get closer)

[woven heron]

no way its referee can you fix steam deck support for rec room /j

[eager oak]

No.
#1065119973883777024 message

[simple stag]

fun WW fact: the code that I just launched in the optimization split test is the same code that's used on the Rooms widget. Somehow, WW launched before the optimization split test finished (or even started, really)

[jovial verge]

i cant read but ok

[woven heron]

real

[knotty otter]

the widget watch is pretty cool and i i love it so far! i love how streamlined it is, reminds me of the old ui a bit🥹 here are two minor pieces of feedback

1. i wish you could customize which widgets to see on the widget menu, and customize each widget (for example being able to customize which outfits are available to pick from off the widget or being able to adjust the widget’s size)
2. the events button looks quite odd being all by itself. it’s a minor nitpick but it bothers me a lil😭I’d love if the dorm room and rec center buttons were added next to it. I know they’re already on the widget page, but they’re buttons that are used quite frequently and players would benefit from it being available at all times (especially when you have to quickly leave an instance). Also, if the rec center button does get added, I’d like if you could click it even if you’re already in a rec center. Haven’t used the button while in a rec center on the widget ui yet so im not sure if this is fixed on there but I miss just pressing the button on the old ui as opposed to having to go to this room to get to a new instance

[keen hound]

I got an idea

My concepts for Uis and such

[queen oyster]

I got softlocked in widget watch

Literally

I went to log into rec room next thing you know I cannot leave the dorm room because my watch softlocked me

I tried going to custom rooms, I tried placing a door that brings you a different room. I TRIED ORIENTATION GUN but I got softlocked😭

[simple stag]

Can you elaborate on softlocked here? Like was no UI showing up or was it non responsive or something?

[quiet snow]

I don't think this should be happening.......................

[queen oyster]

It was showing up but then it dissapeared again. I can send you the video in dms since I have no embed permission here

[simple stag]

This is a known one that we keep thinking we fix and then it shows up again 😩

[harsh raven]

Can yall PLEASE add a button that lets me toggle the watch faces

[queen oyster]

This is a bug? I thought it was a feature because I like it alot

[simple stag]

We are considering trying some similar stuff to this to solve the navigation issues

[quiet snow]

You can never get rid of RR bugs they are called advanced features.

[simple stag]

But what if I delete them

[quiet snow]

Then thats a split test

[queen oyster]

https://youtu.be/e5s86PcFZBs?si=gXi-fcpZby_40bPi

[queen oyster]

thus this is the video about the bug i have

[queen oyster]

idk if its just me but when i went through ^SocialOrientation i got the current watch UI back?

[earnest igloo]

Do you have a list of everywhere it's still in use? I'm curious about where and also wanna see if i know any additional places that haven't been noticed by the team yet lol

[astral shale]

I got the new Widget Watch today, and I'm a little disappointed that you can no longer quickly navigate to your recent rooms. As a creator I find myself jumping between unpublished test/work-in-progress rooms quite often, and the previous iteration of the Home menu allowed me to do this quickly, whereas with the Widget Watch you need to navigate to the Create menu first, then look up the room to join.

In addition, it looks like you can't easily navigate to your clubhouse anymore. Previously if you set a clubhouse to override your dorm spawn/Rec Center quick access, you'd be able to quickly return to your clubhouse right from the Home menu. But with the new Widget Watch, it only allows you to go from any room to your dorm, or from your dorm to the Rec Center only. I think the preference would be the ability to go from any room to either your Dorm or your Clubhouse/Rec Center, as it was with the previous iteration.

Is there any work currently planned to address these points?

[simple stag]

We are tracking that both of these are issues. I'll be honest that I'm not quite sure yet how we're going to fix the clubhouse one, but we will figure something out

The recent rooms one is something I'll be talking with people about today

[queen oyster]

here is a suggestion: a kinda ping thingie on the chat menu and the people. on the people tab it counts how many friend requests are sent OR how many friends are online in total. and for the chat tub of course how many chats you haven't read yet. kinda like how discord has those pings.

[deft plank]

Just add one or two buttons?

[woven heron]

i can agree with that but remember that they need to fit a lot of other buttons people have been wanting

[deft plank]

Or like "Quick access" menu. Dorm, RC and Clubohouse(if any)

[woven heron]

dorm button, token count, plus the username and stuff

and clubhouse/reccenter

[woven heron]

wait a Rooms tab could go crazy from a UX standpoint

quick access to recent rooms, plus dorm, clubhouse/rc, some favorited rooms, access to play menu, the create party menu, and some recommendations

then again half the stuff i just said is in the existing quick access menu

and there is a decent amount of unused screen space there for additional features

[deft plank]

There can be dedicated tab for all 3 of
em.

Token count can be visible in shop. You dont need to see it when you open watch

[woven heron]

token count is useful and people really want it including me

[woven heron]

maybe, but i dont want it to be like the old watch

where there ended up being a million tabs

and that also would lead to fragmentation

which is a big problem on the old watch anyways

[buoyant shadow]

Make the button on back of watch(VR) that is a button for quick bug report that makes screenshot when pressed and opens report bug menu

[woven heron]

once im done with the projects im working on and have more time

ill draft tons of concepts for widget watch

wireframe stuff for ideas i think could work

(i design uis for games in rr!!!)

[deft plank]

It had few issues but putting a Clubhouse and Rec Center buttons in the Soical tab would not hurt

[woven heron]

its fine if its put on the quick access menu

thats what the quick access menu is for

but making a whole seperate tab for quick access to play stuff

would lead to fragmentation

[deft plank]

One or two extra buttons wont lead directly there.

[woven heron]

i mean yeah but either way it would be really weird to

have a quick access page

and then a DEDICATED quick access page for playing stuff

and then the rest of stuff in one tab

[deft plank]

OK let me think

I can see Customize button there twice

[simple plume]

delicious

[jovial verge]

Island is hitting and I don’t like

Move it like a lil

[fiery ibex]

im broke enough to not have the island

[severe flare]

im broke enough to not even be able to play RR on phone

(it doesn't support my android phone)

[queen oyster]

feel your pain

i literally had to buy a new phone just to be able to play rec room and well, become part of the community.

[severe flare]

wow

im already able to play on PC and VR, so not being able to play on phone wasn't that big of a deal for me

[queen oyster]

i originally made my account back in 2022 with my pc, but i couldnt play it properly because all i could see was pink. few days later after my account creation i had my friend play rec room on their PC through parsec. while they played on their phone which could able to play rec room. it was fun while it lasted. (dont worry i dont do that anymore)

[simple stag]

I was just about to add a ticket to track this because someone pointed it out internally too. Can't make any promises about when it'll be addressed if there's no functionality loss, but we will get to it

[warped fable]

@teal swallow

[open torrent]

Think I saw someone send something like this before, but I opened my watch > second page > people
It was easily fixed. Just clicking on the second watch menu closed the first. Using the back arrow worked properly

[simple stag]

yeah this is one of the gremlin bugs running around. We kept fixing it, then making another change, then it would pop back up again ><. We should have some changes coming in a couple weeks that will hopefully help solve it

oh right, general bug update- a fix for the issue where sometimes you would load into the room and WW wouldn't be there will be fixed in next week's ship

and I forgot to share that we also got a fix in for the CV2 multiple choice prompt issues, which will also ship next week

[jovial verge]

Anyway pls add the button outline to the room and the profile
Make it this

Current

[simple stag]

I miiight be able to swing that for the ship the week of 3/24, I'll check tomorrow

We have a lot of changes we're trying to get in and only so many resources for testing them 😅

[uncut gull]

Let me help test them, my resume says I’m a really cool person

[indigo kindle]

we've been saying that they just need a public test build and allow players to test the new stuff. Boom, less QA resources required

[weary pollen]

Just have a public betatest server for LVL 50+ players

[keen hound]

RR+

[chrome talon]

May have found a fix for the multiple choice issue with the WW. On prompt complete wire directly into execution integer switch. On your options (0, 1, 2, 3, etc) wire it into a delay, set delay to 0.2 second, wire after delay into cancel then the cancel into whatever chip you have it set for. This seems to have worked for me

Would post a screenshot but I don’t have perms for that yet

[simple stag]

We're shipping a fix for it next week as well!

[chrome talon]

Awesome!

Now I don’t have to fix a bunch of CV2😅

[white sage]

Is anyone else having bug where, if you load into the game after logging in, you can't see or use the menu? I have found a way to help it from doing that, I just have to have some sort of button or something to take me to another room and it's back!

[simple stag]

We have a fix coming for this one next week as well, no more getting stuck with no menu loaded because of some server blip

[sly ruin]

Sometimes when closing the WW the cursor stays on screen and you can't move

[simple stag]

oh that's a newer one

I'll check on that

[indigo kindle]

I had the same issue when it first released. I tried to reproduce it but couldn't.

[buoyant shadow]

My widget watch doesn't work #rr-media message

[queen oyster]

you have to go to a different room to be able to use the new watch.

[simple stag]

that'll be fixed next ship, thankfully

[simple stag]

as a general thing, would it help if I keep a list of some of the top-reported issues in the main post of the thread and update it when we know we have a fix coming?

[gilded jasper]

just be prepared to say "look at the pins" constantly

[simple stag]

hmm wonder if there's a good gif I can default to

oh wow there are some weird gifs in that search

[indigo kindle]

make your own

[devout whale]

https://tenor.com/view/asc-gif-22146012

[buoyant shadow]

maybe add When being in VR mode, we can have 3D items that we can acually pick up from watch lik it was on Legacy watch UI

[eager oak]

[gilded jasper]

don't tell me you looked up rec room gifs on the discord gif search 😭

[thorn iris]

Emerald person

Ik it’s you behind the acc

[eager oak]

?

[thorn iris]

Anyway I sleep

[gleaming stratus]

But first, rock react this thread
https://discord.com/channels/193073071802941451/1295885319471759510

[sudden bloom]

there was no point changing stuff that didnt need to be changed

[eager oak]

Good thing the watch needed changed then.

[gilded jasper]

I'm going to politely peace out of this space & the discord in general.

All I have to say is this is one of the few good directions the game is undertaking lately and I can't wait to see the Widget Watch continue to iterate and expand, I just won't be involved to provide feedback. In any case, it's likely not needed if it is very solid this early on.

Cheers to anyone still working hard to improve the game, and cheers to anyone still passionate enough to offer feedback. Hopefully more improvements can be delivered to other areas of Rec Room soon as well.

[gleaming stratus]

Gone but never forgotten

[normal salmon]

It keeps glitching out with rank system menu’s

[uncut gull]

“Rank system” is not an official thing, what you likely mean is the prompt multiple choice chip, that’s already known and is being fixed

This channel died ever since quothy stopped talking, I can almost hear them now, voices in the wind

[queen oyster]

quothy...

quote your progress 🙏

or i will make more quothy puns

[devout whale]

yeah..

[simple stag]

Sorry all, work was super busy the last few days. But we managed to get almost a record number of changes merged in this week!

Next week's ship (week of 3/17) will include:

• tooltips
• support for languages beyond English
• WW + multiple choice prompt fix
• WW not loading in fix
• RR Studio HUD UI displaying on top of WW

The week after that (week of 3/24) will (so far) include:

• Adding in some different Rooms widget layouts for us to try out
• A bunch of various fixes and polish to make it feel better (this changeset fixed like 5-10 bugs and I don't remember them all off the top of my head)
• (Probably, will update) Fix for some RR Studio objects rendering on top of WW
• (Probably, will update) Better default appearance for This Room and profile buttons so they look clickable

Work in progress (most likely shipping the week of 3/31):

• Changes to how we maintain UI state so you don't always have to restart when you re-open the UI
• Better/smarter tooltip positioning on mobile

This weekend, I'll be responding a bit less frequently than I have been lately. I need to detach from work a bit and recharge my batteries, I've been working a bit too hard lately tbh and need to prevent burnout

[eager oak]

That's fine, take your time

[queen oyster]

thanks for quoting the upcoming updates

[jovial verge]

I just reported someone so idk if that has anything to do with this bug but i got a vid on what happens

also can you stop moving my mouce all over the screen each time i move menus just keep my mouce where it last was

[patent jolt]

IT’S SO DAMN SMALL

SHOULD’VE BEEN FOR JUNIORS

[patent jolt]

ADD OLD AND NEW WATCH TOGGLE

IT’S NOT EVEN REALISTIC

[desert lichen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1162582071299031070/1348049204760809502/attachment.gif?ex=67d746a7&is=67d5f527&hm=5a099559bc2fba8e7d49c7b6f25baadc293a1b6abb5bf66efa8124b9289b30c0&

[severe flare]

😭 😭

Wdym by "realistic"?

[desert lichen]

😭

[sly ruin]

Bubble watch was so realistic

[final torrent]

Ah yes, floating menus that open via a regular looking watch, my favorite type of realism

[queen stirrup]

@simple stag There is a few posts about the Widget Watch on the Reddit, in case you missed it

[queen oyster]

Man I love tapping on my watch in real life and It shows a huge menu in real life.

[patent jolt]

so it’s a “watch” but you don’t look at it

SO THEN HOW IS IT A WATCH??

[queen oyster]

ragebait 🙏

[patent jolt]

BRUH

ALSO EVEN THOUGH YOU LOOK AT IT

YOU GET A SMALL SCREEN

HOW IS THAT REALISTIC BRO

[queen oyster]

.

[queen oyster]

i still dont see your point with this

[patent jolt]

good thing it’s just the first iteration

[devout whale]

What would be the point of a split test then

[severe flare]

What.

[severe flare]

Horrible counterargument and im writing this solely because im slightly ticked off, but watches are small as well, right?

If anything WW looks more like something you see on an actual watch than the flat and cluttered RRUI

It has a simple and consistent layout, most buttons look bigger, and I dig the fake 3D effect it has on screen mode rn

(But im really hoping the VR version will actually be 3D)

[sly ruin]

Exactly, if watches could project their screens then ww is more realistic than something like rrui, a more square like menu than a giant 16:9 one

[devout whale]

I also love how I can still see people while using the widget watch, it’s being small and on the side factor is amazing

[queen oyster]

while the watch shut off all the memory i had of using the current one. i learnt fast. hope the other menus are easier too

[sly ruin]

Sometimes I feel like navigation on rrui is faster because of the nav bar, but I'm sure that'll be improved too whenever we can customize our widgets

[queen oyster]

i still wish the settings button was on the left side

[uncut gull]

Day 42… no sign of quothy, the channel has gone silent, WW is still screen only…

[uncut gull]

Yes that’s the joke as to why I said that lmao

[sly ruin]

Ohh mbmb I thought you were serious

[vocal moth]

Why??

[queen oyster]

Think of a new player. The settings is small where you cannot notice it. So having it on the side big and noticeable is nice

And good.

[vocal moth]

I meant the right

Why not?

[jovial verge]

Anyway… how is VR widget Watch going?

[simple stag]

Still prototyping. It's slow going because we're prioritizing fixes and improvements for the version we've shipped first

the update that landed last night has the following WW improvements & fixes:

• Tooltips!
• Localization support
• WW should now always load after joining a room
• Multiple-choice CV2 prompts & WW now play nice together
• RR Studio HUD UI and WW now play nice together

Please let me know if you run into any issues that seem like they should have been fixed!

[autumn fiber]

When getting errors loading into dorms (i.e. 'failed to load dorm') Widget watch still fails to show up when opening menu, until leaving the room

[simple stag]

is this in the update from last night?

[autumn fiber]

Yes

[simple stag]

hmmm okay. I'll file a bug and we'll see if we can get a fix into next week's ship

[autumn fiber]

👍

[simple stag]

I think I can see a way that failing to load could mess things up

any idea why you were failing to load into the dorm?

[autumn fiber]

My cell service is poor, currently out of state, so i have no choice

[simple stag]

that's actually really helpful context

I'll mess with our networking tools and see if I can simulate a similar delay/failure

thanks a bunch for letting me know about it!

[indigo kindle]

I ran into a bug where when I first loaded into my dorm after opening recroom, it pops up with the "import friends from steam" page. When I closed it, it went to the 2d ui home page instead of the ww home page.

[simple stag]

does it persist as the Watch Home page when you close and re-open or does it go back to WW?

[indigo kindle]

it goes back

[queen oyster]

hide your token count. QUICK

[true meadow]

That’s nothing compared to most cash grabbers

[keen hound]

ahh the days when i had a couple hundred k

[strange prawn]

ahh the days when i had a couple hundred k

[queen oyster]

wtf

so uhh thats weird, i opened my watch now and now its back to the default watch???

did the new watch splittest got taken away?

[simple stag]

Was just about to post about that haha

We're reducing the rollout and the number of groups we're running. We have enough feedback and data to help us identify the gaps we need to close to be able to ship it to everyone.

Only 20% of the playerbase will have WW for the rest of this month. We're then planning on taking a slight break from the split test during the first week of April while we wait for some planned changes to ship, then we'll start it back up again

I'm planning on sharing out some fun facts about what we've learned in the next couple days as well 🙂

[queen oyster]

for april fools we should get the most unusable watch menu ever

[simple stag]

ngl if things went well with the test I was going to do an April Fools where I told you all we were gonna give up on WW and keep what we have

unfortunately things did not work out for me to troll you all like that (and also I didn't expect so many people to want the 2D UI)

[gleaming stratus]

The "so many people" is just a bunch of people who can't adjust to change, nothing wrong with WW

[simple stag]

if there was nothing wrong, we wouldn't have had to decrease the rollout 😅

[queen oyster]

i do hope some of our reccomended stuff do get added in (like showing tokens in the menu and not just in the store tab)

[gleaming stratus]

I mean yeah it definitely has some bugs (like it just not opening) but from what I've seen in here it's not all too bad

[simple stag]

however, we have built up a lot of internal confidence that we want to keep investing in it so that we can ship it

[gleaming stratus]

ALTHOUGH I would love it even more if the menu you open onto is the other one rather than what it is right now

Or if you could toggle between

[simple stag]

that is on the list of things to potentially try, but not sure if we will yet

we also have some neat ideas around improving the overall navigation flow between the different menus and WW. Some of those ideas were inspired by player suggestions 🙂

[queen oyster]

quothy im not sure if you can do this because of NDA but can you draw us a programmer art of what the next menu that gets WW Magic look like?

toomuch?

[simple stag]

lololol

we're focusing on shipping WW to everyone first

[raven dew]

the only thing people have complained to me about Widget Watch is it opens to the party menu first ( Aka the lightning icon) when they really want the 4 square menu first (They also weren't a fan that things weren't labeled like it was just icons but I guess that is just a split test)

[uncut gull]

I just want to try it out on vr is all

then I’m happy

[frigid bloom]

why am i always unlucky an i don't get the good splittests but i get the bad ones instead 😭

[oak iris]

I think that a lot of people prefer the current UI because of its colourful depiction

And it's more screen-based focus

[autumn fiber]

I prefer WW, because it isnt a mishmash of every menu in one

I think its better than the current one, but still has a bunch of flaws with the weirdness with menus, and glitchy jank

[oak iris]

The issue is, you have to satisfy both sides. VR wants an interactive, simple watch that doesn't impact performance and the screenies want a more usable but still colourful UI

[green trench]

Hey @simple stag unsure if this is a bug but I randomly got the old watch back, like fully. I switched rooms and it stayed. Was this supposed to happen?

[simple stag]

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[green trench]

Got it

[simple stag]

yeah it's intentional

but just for a little bit while we figure out some adjustments 🙂

[open torrent]

Crossing my fingers I get to keep it 🤞

[simple stag]

Disclaimer: this is purely an information-gathering exercise and not a promise of future features we're going to add.

We'd like to gather some info from those of you who create rooms about what kind of things would be convenient to have in the Quick Access panel. Some examples of what I mean are a "Save Room" button so that you don't need to open up the This Room page, a Room Settings button, and a carousel of Inventions that you can use

[uncut gull]

I’ve been saying this day 1 of ww, programable cv2 buttons via events

[raven dew]

I tend to use my Favorites as my "Get back to my own rooms" tab lol, I've rarely used the create tab, the only time I use it is if I'm looking for a room I don't know the name of/only know of when I made said room like a time frame so I can look through the list of rooms Also most creators that actually know how to create only use their own inventions, they never use inventions from the store lol

[simple stag]

We have this grouped in a different bucket of "features to make creation/rooms better" rather than "features to aid the creator work flow"

[uncut gull]

I will find a way to reverse engineer the ww to do just that

[simple stag]

We do want to do that though! That was actually one of the original selling points I made for WW

"it gives us a place to surface an entry point for creator ui/creation features" was one of the OG reasons for moving in the WW direction

[simple stag]

Oooh I'm really curious to learn more about the invention thing. Is it because the inventions in the store don't seem useful? Or because you'd rather make your own and have full control over it?

[uncut gull]

random butt in here, it’s both

[autumn fiber]

I kinda had a weird idea, so im gonna say it.

Widget Phone

For VR, ofc

[uncut gull]

Inventions in the store are wild and worthless, I mean that in the literal sense, as a creator, I’d much rather have my own custom carousel of my own inventions at the ready when creating

[autumn fiber]

Instead of fully replacing the start menu, have a 'Phone' that they can pull off their hips, that opens Widget Watch

[simple stag]

Happy to hear from anyone on this to try to understand more! As an engineer, I feel like there's always a balance to strike between "go find imperfect, but existing solution so I don't have to write my own" and "okay but I want full creative control" when I'm working on projects

[autumn fiber]

Use only for paid inventions is my main turnoff for buying inventions

If it was possible to, id love it so buying an invention lets you edit and save it, but only you and other buyers can

[uncut gull]

There is no downside to letting a user choose their own style, the issue arises when said style is something forced onto them without the option to make it more impactful to the specific individual, it’s just simply not possible to create something so perfect it works for everyone, what is possible is allow even the smallest of details to be fine tuned though

[raven dew]

Mixture of all of that
-Inventions tend to be locked behind a paywall and tend to be low quality Including when if an update breaks them, there is no fixing them since you cannot modify use only inventions, and to sell it needs to be use onlySo theres no point in relying on them when they probably can break and since its use only and if they are in a circuit board you are barred from modifying them
-Control, again since its use only you can't modify it, there are inventions that are edit and save and have modify controls, but at that point you can just take those circuits, re-create them, save them and boom its fully your circuits now, which kinda defeats the purpose of inventions
-You can create it but better, most of the time inventions are a product of their time, so they tend to become less useful over time because you might have developed something more powerful than what you used in the past, and since those inventions cannot and won't be updated, they become more useless

The sole reason I used inventions was transporting my stuff from room to room 9/10 stuff it was music or content from 1 subroom to the next, the only time I've gotten an invention other than my own/my teams was to support a creator usually buying a donation or a cool invention they made But would never use
Doesn't help that 90% of the invention store breaks the CoC/CCoC (aka either real rule breaking content, OR blatant copyright infringement which breaks a CCoC rule but doesn't get enforced so )

[simple stag]

Ty for the insight! I passed it along and looks like they're typing up a response in this thread 😁

[ashen glen]

Curious if it helps that R2 inventions are all free and modifiable, and that the authors can update them if they go stale or get broken? We've tried to revisit the main reasons they suck to create with

They are pretty hot off the presses, so no worries if you haven't had a chance to play with them yet in R2!

[queen oyster]

People don't use inventions in their rooms anymore due to the cash grab rooms popping up which of course use room templates and alot of inventions. I don't remember a single person grabbing a template just to make a room out of it since I started playing rec room.

Basically inventions are good, but were killed by the money hungry players.

[gleaming stratus]

I just like making stuff myself so I don't use inventions

I probably should for models because I can't model for shit but oh well

[ashen glen]

Soon(TM) you'll be able to get and share RRStudio content via R2 inventions as well, so hopefully they'll help for that!

[devout whale]

Even UI???

[queen oyster]

Not sure but I'm hoping. Inventions are a main issue when making a room. Tbh I don't blame the staff not updating invention tower (even though there is smaller room that is like invention tower but not really)

[raven dew]

how would it handle inventions being updated? Would you need to respawn them in again to get the updated version? What if said invention maker goes rouge and deletes the circuits or something, do we get access to invention revisions?

and if we are going to be able to upload straight unity content to the R2 store, what stops users from downloading content from the unity store, re-uploading it to Rec Room as an invention and then when the ability to monetize rooms 2.0 inventions slapping a price tag on content thats explicitly forbidden to resell?

[ashen glen]

• At the moment you have to delete the old one and spawn in the new one, yeah. (This is all live, so you can go play with it in R2 if you want!) If the invention maker goes rogue, you'll always have access to every version they published. You can use the Invention Details page to get at all the back catalogue versions.
• Technically I think this opens people up to a lawsuit from Unity so do it at your own risk I guess :] I don't have a comprehensive answer for you except that we'll still be responding to reports and takedown requests, and that Studio content will have to go through the same moderation Studio rooms do

[ashen glen]

yes! UI may not work on day 1, but it's the next thing on the list. initially you'll have meshes, texture, custom audio, and studio functions

[devout whale]

That’s actually so cool 🔥

I can finally have like ui in my dorm

Or a probuilder cube in my dorm

[raven dew]

Inventions version catalogue is fire, thats a much needed QOL feature a bit very late but much needed feature

[ashen glen]

you want a probuilder cube??

[devout whale]

Yeah

I made a cherrry version of it once

Which is basically the normal probuilder material but red

And I put it in a room I had

Now imagine I could make that an invention!!!

[ashen glen]

well... soon 😂

I don't actually know how probuilder works with it to be honest

[devout whale]

People gunna be jealous of my red probuilder cube

[ashen glen]

I'm sure it strips the scripts and everything. it's only orange scene stuff

[devout whale]

I mean can’t be different since it’s just like a different type of mesh

[devout whale]

Orange scene stuff?

What’s that mean

[queen oyster]

Won't it be better for there to be a option which version should be accessed or not?

[devout whale]

Also probuilder works with studio so I imagine it’s classed as a component

Would be so cool in my dorm honestly

Custom video players anywhere!?!?!

[devout whale]

Will video players have different rules

[uncut gull]

Being able to just spawn in studio UI with maker pen to start creating will seriously improve creation flow, I look forward to this I can’t lie

[ashen glen]

Not sure I follow the question? But here's how it works:

As the author of an invention, let's say I save four versions. I see them as .1, .2, .3, .4
Then I publish. Version .4 becomes version 1
Then I save two more times. Those versions are 1.1, 1.2
Then I publish again. Version 1.2 becomes version 2.
Someone who downloads it sees version 1 and version 2 while the author sees .1, .2, .3, 1, 1.1, and 2

[ashen glen]

Good question! I don't know yet. Video players won't work out of the gate, we'll have to figure out the rules when we get there. There are some moderation and jr player concerns there I suspect

[devout whale]

Alrighty

[sly ruin]

So I assume once an rrs invention is spawned the room automatically gets the #rrstudio tag? (Of course if the room isn't already a studio room)

[fiery ibex]

may i suggest an addition to the widget watch?

yeah so add a massive red “DESTROY REC ROOM” button on the right side of the screen

and it glows sinister red too

[raven dew]

tbh this would be a hilarious April fools joke and all it does is close the game

[eager oak]

Bans the player

[lean bronze]

I'm apart of the 20%

[autumn fiber]

I am not :<

[uneven thunder]

I’m not 😄

[random mica]

Personally as someone who is now back to the old watch I can confidently say I really didn't like the new one it was really confusing and not to mention buggy at times

I do have a question if I publish an outline and originally make it free how would I then change it in future to earn tokens from it?

[green trench]

yeah. having the old watch back helps a lot

[random mica]

Is it possible to fix the mass spam invite problem btw as I'm constantly having to decline invites over and over. Maybe make it where if someone declines your invite 3 times then you can't send that person another invite for atleast an hour?

Unless obviously they then request to join

[wintry karma]

I still have it!! Haha

I still want a home button though because pressing back multiple times is worse than just one button/slower

[simple stag]

what about it was confusing? I'd love to understand more so we can help close the gap and make WW a good replacement

[autumn fiber]

Im pretty sure it was the fact it was split in half

Either the lightning and 4-square box should be combined, or the 4-square box shouldve been the default

[simple stag]

We are shipping a fix for this either next week or the week after. There will be a way to open the WW directly w/o going back and tapping the Watch icon/hitting Tab won't reset you back to the WW any more

[wintry karma]

awesome 🙀

[random mica]

The whole layout was just confusing to me as I'm autistic and adhd sometimes the smallest change can throw me off

[open torrent]

Why is the customizable dorm still a split test?

[random mica]

Plus the last 2 days I had it my game was really buggy and so I had to close my game over and over

[simple stag]

how was it buggy?

[queen oyster]

its really not a splittest anymore. anyone can access it... right?

[open torrent]

No, I still don't have it, not even on alts

[queen oyster]

thats very much weird

[random mica]

Basically every like half an hour things would stop working like changing outfits my friend was also completely freezing like she could open her watch and close it but wasn't able to move at all

[simple stag]

that's super strange. Was your friend also in the WW test group? And did it always seem to happen after 30 min of playing or could it happen sooner?

[random mica]

Yes

Sometimes it was every 15 minutes

[simple stag]

and did it seem to matter what room you were in?

[random mica]

Nope it was happening no matter where I was

[simple stag]

okay, ty. We'll look into that today to see if there's something unanticipated going on

[random mica]

Thanks