I can list 5 issues in recroom right now

[restive sable]

1. mocha/cheat engine users (need a better anti hack)
2. Recroom’s large game creators being weirdos.
3. Console users (even ps5) being stuck at 81% at joining a room. (Caused from recrooms studio **Dont say that its cuz some rooms have too many it happens in stuff like paintball or lasertag or even showdown).
4. Recroom relies on money made by weirdos.
5. UI is broksn

[uncut coyote]

Paintball and lasertag aren't rec room studio?

[restive sable]

They have studio assets (yk the buildings if u copy you cant edit or nothing they are technically stuio but a different type of studio)

[uncut coyote]

They are built natively in Unity, not studio

[plain scaffold]

How are large creators being weirdos?

[tall drum]

not specifically referencing one, but there is one specifically im thinking about

[slender needle]

1.Letting people say racist words and others but getting vc banned for saying hi
2.creators being creeps towards minors or even adults
3.letting games be cash grabs (I understand they need to make money but should have some f2p things)
4.better anti cheat (easy anti cheat isn’t even a anti cheat)
5. Fix soft blocking where you get stuck after spawning or dying

[rapid orchid]

Also when you join games sometimes you can’t move or access menu or do anything, you have to restart game fully

[fading needle]

Um you can tell by a lot of evidence

[uncut coyote]

Wow that sure does shelp answer their question

[uncut coyote]

Me when I lie on number 1

[slender needle]

Not a lie I hear it all the time

[uncut coyote]

Have you been told it or seen it yourself?

[slender needle]

Seen it

[true canyon]

1. there is a disconnect between player and moderation with inconsistent VC bans ( some people say slurs and never get caught others say a swear word once and almost immediately get VC banned)

2. Rec Room having yet to address the controversy between it's biggest creator, and making a change to his account that would suggest that they side with him. ( This is fine and all and, maybe I just haven't seen it, but Rec Room assuming that the controversy will blow over or isn't something that needs to be addressed isn't something that anyone who knows they're right does often if ever.

3. Allowing your larger creators and their communities to pursue people in real life that they don't like within Rec Room. (So many people have been sent death threats, has their names, addresses, family members names, addresses, their and their families phone numbers, their and their families place of work all of that leaked. And when big creators tell people to do that they're more likely to do it and believe it is right. When having an opinion gets you death threats, doxxed, and all your friends leave you because now you're seen as taboo and showing kindness to you isn't an option unless you're not dogmatic to the game.)

4. Large creators having racist communities/ not punishing higher up members for being racist. (Several members including co owners have said the n word and other slurs, their only get punishment is someone yelling at them. Not Rec Room mic banning and warning them, not the community their apart of condemning them, nothing is really done about this.

5. Fix soft blocking so people don't get stuck after spawning or dying

[restive sable]

Dms

[hardy jolt]

true

[uncut coyote]

Almost immediately? Then it wasn't because of the swear

[true canyon]

Rec Room has a warning system that can almost immediately warn players almost immediately after it detects something soon after some players are mic banned. Crazy that this was the thing you chose to discuss with me about.

[uncut coyote]

Me when I lie

[true canyon]

Me when I miss the point of the post

[uncut coyote]

Why are you doing that

[true canyon]

Can you be more specific

[low tide]

Great points

[covert venture]

That isn't how the Voice Moderation works

[true canyon]

Could you please explain it then

[covert venture]

Gotchu

[uncut coyote]

"Me when I miss the point of the post"

[covert venture]

So the Voice Moderation AI has been trained in detecting the tone and words of the players

[autumn apex]

He’s making fun of your way in refuting a point or argument

[covert venture]

It gives a 'Risk' rating depending on the tone and what is being said

If the risk is high enough it will flag it and get related conversations

It gets reviewed then punishments are given

Usually ranges from a few hours to days

Never Instant

[autumn apex]

Does that mean it’s more likely to prosecute players who use a more insinuating tone?

I didn’t know that

[covert venture]

With improper language

[true canyon]

3 of the 5 and the longest points in my message were on the same topic or community. You chose to pick out one that was, from my perspective, less important therefore missing the point

[autumn apex]

Oh alr

[covert venture]

This is also why you'll see alot of people posting things like "My mic was off and I was falsely voice restricted"

When in reality it just took some time to review

[true canyon]

Thank you, would this also explains why people with stronger accents are less likely to be flagged (just from what I've seen not to sure about it)

[covert venture]

Nope, the Voice Detection is very accurate as well

With a 5% false discovery rate

[autumn apex]

This is a bit of a risqué thing to admit, but accent doesn’t matter, while I don’t use slurs, it hasn’t yet restricted me despite constant use of curse words

[covert venture]

Meaning even if something gets detected it won't be 100% confident that they have broken the COC using a mic

[covert venture]

The way to not get voice restricted is to not direct the words towards people

You are 100% allowed to curse

[autumn apex]

So using curse words to enunciate sentences are fine?

[covert venture]

It's when it is directed towards people that it becomes a problem

[covert venture]

Yes, you can say something like "That's fucking awesome"

[autumn apex]

I’ve directed them to friends in game, but it hasn’t yet come to bite me in the ass

[covert venture]

Probably tone of speech

[autumn apex]

Prolly

[autumn apex]

That was informative, thank you

[covert venture]

The Voice Moderation is from Modulate.ai's ToxMod

Also used in many other VR games as well as Call Of Duty

[uncut coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/go-cry-gorilla-tag-child-rec-room-shell-lurker-gif-13459505055058497819

[true canyon]

You asked my to explain, if you can't accept that you were wrong, and infact didn't get the point and you are unwilling to learn/ understand you shouldn't respond at all

[uncut coyote]

What

Voice mod takes a while to detect what you've said. You don't get warnings or voice bans instantly.

[true canyon]

🤦

[uncut coyote]

@dense plaza wanna say that again but with less emojis?

[dense plaza]

to many dolphin i need my water birds in there

long story short stop your yapping

[covert venture]

Shell Lurker is correct, earlier you asked me to explain how Voice Moderation actually works

I don't think you've fully read and comprehended it

[true canyon]

The point of my original message was to draw attention to a certain community. You've explained how voice moderation works, for that thank you, skunk either doesn't understand the original point or doesn't care. If they don't care they shouldn't say anything if they don't understand I'd be happy to explain.

[sick briar]

Yknow about rauz?

[covert venture]

No, no, the only messages Shell responded to were the ones about the voice moderation. Considering that what you and Nova have said about the Voice Moderation system were incorrect, frankly both of you were in the wrong. You for sharing an idea without any research on the topic and only going by word of mouth and Shell not explaining themselves better.

It's better to do research on a topic before announcing them as facts

[true canyon]

#1312038229813497876 message

[uncut coyote]

You asked if I could be more specific to me saying "why would you do that?"

[covert venture]

Shell responded to #1312038229813497876 message where they corrected you. #1312038229813497876 message
You responded with something that was incorrect #1312038229813497876 message

[true canyon]

I'm not lying if I actually thought that was true, which I did, you explained it to me and now I understand that the voice moderation stuff doesn't work like that. Both of you are missing the point of the whole thread, that Rec Room overlooks major concerns about it's creator, because they make Rec Room money.

[uncut coyote]

This conversation isn't about the thread, it's about you being wrong

[covert venture]

I've never accused you of lying, if you reread all the messages i've sent i've only said that you were incorrect and should research the topics better.

[true canyon]

Which I was, the milk explained it. There wasn't tremendous details put into 1 and 5 because that wasn't the point

[covert venture]

Also a minority of creators do not represent the majority

The UI needed the be changed since the old one could not be added onto easily

[uncut coyote]

Okay 😃

[true canyon]

You know what I'm talking about, as far as I know Rec Room hasn't addressed it, that doesn't sit right with me or a vast majority of people

[covert venture]

There is a report feature on Rec Room and through tickets via Zendesk

If people provide circumstantial evidence then actions will be taken

[true canyon]

Not for his account

[covert venture]

but most people only do a small line of text when submitting a report

[true canyon]

Actions have been taken, to protect him. People have shown all the proof there is which is pretty substantial. If Rec Room felt the need to alter his account there should probably be an announcement with that talking about their stance. The only reason I can think that they wouldn't make an announcement about it is that Rec Room doesn't want to draw attention to it because they're scared.

[true canyon]

How would you know

[covert venture]

Do you think anyone especially on consoles would type out a long paragraph when reporting someone, most people would just select one of many prewritten ones

Also I don't know the "creator" in question

[true canyon]

Again with y'all ignoring the entire point of the thread because you can't win if you do

[covert venture]

The point of the thread was to list out 5 issues the OP has with rec room

I pointed out flaws

There is no winning, it's just a debate

[uncut coyote]

You are not listing 5 things wrong about RR so are you also ignoring the point of the thread?

[covert venture]

They technically did do so

[uncut coyote]

Well yeah their first message in this thread

[covert venture]

But they haven't done their research

[uncut coyote]

Indeed

[covert venture]

There is nothing wrong to be ignorant, but to double down is where it starts

[restive sable]

So tell me what is wrong with this thread?

Out of the 5 things here tell me whats wrong

Lets go

[covert venture]

Nothing is wrong with this thread

[restive sable]

People didnt get the memo too much tho

Im just a little angry atm that people are getting doxxed due to scripters and hackers being able to do anything they want when recroom can easily implement an anti cheat

Only one of said reasons

[covert venture]

For the first one, Rec Room creators are able to prevent these hackers through CV2, since to spawn items they need to be room authority

[restive sable]

Nothing stops a hacker from spawning a dracula, a robot or even crashing a server

[covert venture]

Regarding this, Hackers and scripters can't obtain your info, It is more likely to be social engineering

[restive sable]

I shouldnt have to be able to find CV2 that is so laggy it might as well crash the game for us so scripters cant hack in a game where recroom should do so

[restive sable]

Wait imma show u an image

[covert venture]

Again to spawn these they need to have room authority and you can kick unknown people with authority with CV2

[restive sable]

I can dm u it but i cant put images

[covert venture]

You can post images here

[restive sable]

Wont let me

[covert venture]

Or in #rr-media

[restive sable]

Look in dms

[covert venture]

Is the picture the only evidence you have

Search up my name on it

I permit it

[restive sable]

Il get this scripter to do so rq

Whats ur rr?

[covert venture]

GMilkMan

[covert venture]

Been a while

[small moat]

Rauzmuz

Official taconic

Floofy VR

So many more

[tall drum]

ik this was yesterday but, is there some things it flags even not directed towards people

[hasty ibex]

you were wrong

[uncut coyote]

bit late mate