#vectors lagging behind

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green mica
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What are you using to move the weapon?

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cause if it’s on an update chip it will always lag behind cause circuits cap out at 60fps but the game can run much faster so it’s never going to be able to fully keep up

vague terrace
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I tried making that 30hz to 60hz thing but it just made it worse

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I figured it would be better by the time complier arrives but who knows when that’s coming out

green mica
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🤷‍♂️

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just such a that even with the new “Update” chip that doesn’t cap the tick rate actual cv2 can only run 60hz so it just maxes at that

vague terrace
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I even tried a studio function for position but then I realized it’s the get position it’s self

green mica
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the issue is just the update rate

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unless it was per frame it will never be able to keep up

vague terrace
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I’m assuming then that just kind of tuff luck huh

green mica
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yeah…

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just call it a feature of movement inaccuracy and people will be fine with it mhm

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could also just have the main gun on a gun handle and just update its rotation constantly

terse ore
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Say it’s simulated weight

green mica
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the rotation might lag behind a little but the position will be locked at least

vague terrace
green mica
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you using rooms 1 or 2?

vague terrace
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Rooms 1

green mica
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add a studio function to the gun object to set the rotation of a child object that acts as an anchor point for the gun model

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so it can be rotated independently of the main studio object so it still works while the main object is locked to a gun handle via clamp

vague terrace
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you can clamp a studio objec to a maker pen object with a rotation function and it'll still work?

green mica
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then just the same rotation math you have for the current gun model and subtract the rotation of the gun handle

green mica
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so ur rotating an internal element of the object not the object itself

vague terrace
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problem being the gun model is a makerpen object, nobody knows blender in my friend circle 💀

green mica
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then have that object be where the hand would be relative to the gun model and put the gun model as a child of that

green mica
vague terrace
green mica
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making the “makerpen” object become a normal studio fbx. :)

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just import unitys FBX Exporter package

vague terrace
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Dude thats sick I always wondered if that were a thing

green mica
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the devs said it was possible but that was literally the first thing i ever did with studio back in its closed beta xD

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made a gun model in game, turned it into a studio object and was able to change its material with events and even have animated materials with scrolling textures

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coolest thing i ever done

vague terrace
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As somebody who uses unity even outside of rec room this is crazy

green mica
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i’m still proud of it to this day

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my first ever studio thing

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was a tech demo souly meant to spite the devs

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i can show ya sometime, you can ever throw it into blender to optimize it a bit with merging and clearing duplicate materials

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takes 0 modeling but it cleans up the fbx for file size and performance

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cause it’ll export into an fbx with an individual object and material for each makerpen object that’s a part of it 💀

vague terrace
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Appreciate the help, I'll give it a shot, I'll post my results back in here when I have a decent enough result

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omg the world of possibilities have opened

green mica
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if u wanna dm me for tips lemme know

vague terrace
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Sure thing thanks again

green mica
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there’s some weird stuff you have to do to make it work like duplicate the official rr textures and make new custom materials to get rid of object reference errors

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but in the end you have an object that’s entirely just an fbx and a standard studio object that is 1:1 with the makerpen counterpart

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and using an animation tree you could make a realtime skin system with just a single int parameter :)

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just make an animation clip for each skin and animate the colors/materials of the object to change and transition to each from Any State using an int param

vague terrace
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@silent hatch this is crazy

green mica
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then you can send a single event to set that parameter and store the skin int as a cloud variable :)

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i like inventing crazy stuff for studio

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recoilarena is all smoke and mirrors hehe

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all possible gun types exist all at once for each gun a player holds, “changing gun” actually just changed the model and animations you see on a single handle

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a similar system in pushing to the extreme with my work in project arsenal gun game :)

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8 players, 20+ guns for each player

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with only 8 gun handles. (all rooms 1.0 so no replication either)

vague terrace
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In that game I have my own like overhead ui stuff and I had to make a makeshift server side system with circuits. And it works perfectly, this is why I love studio I was testing it with a friend

green mica
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each gun has its own model, bullets, animations, stats, everything and all exist at the same time with instant swapping via a single int

green mica
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i gotta show you my fully custom bullets system sometime xD

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as a weapon enjoyer i have a feeling you might like it

vague terrace
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I’m assuming that’s custom trajectory

green mica
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they are full hitscan (cause i’m lazy)

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but the effects and everything are all studio and run flawlessly

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along with different impact effects on player/environmental hits

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while being able to fire up to 30hz without net heat or cpu issues

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ofc causing some heat issue if all those shots hit a player and have to send all that damage xD

vague terrace
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Might have to try something like that because projectile launchers use up a ridiculous amount of net

green mica
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but no gun i made will fire that fast, 6-8hz at most

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the math is wild but the outcome is so nice

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i can knock out two birds with one stone by just taking you to try my arsenal game. it’s got the wild gun swapping system and fully custom bullets

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give you some context on how they work incase something stands out to ya

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we ain’t gate keeping knowledge out here

vague terrace
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Sense you’ve made a complex system like that is your room crash rates somewhat high for mobile? Just out of curiosity

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Because I feared the calculation of every player gun position on mobile would cause some crashes

green mica
vague terrace
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Holy

green mica
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idk how anyone manages to crash mobile users

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i can’t if i try

vague terrace
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Textures

green mica
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recoil arena is sitting at like 3-5% since release

vague terrace
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I think my game anomalywatch is at like 3?

green mica
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skybox is about 40kb, and people think they need to be high res

vague terrace
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Yeah exactly

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Skyboxes are a big reason too

green mica
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i see no one complaining about the resolution in recoilarena and people legit take photos of the sky cause it’s so pretty (it’s 128x128 panoramic 💀)

vague terrace
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Cause on like CC textures or whatever site they export in like 8K

green mica
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this is what happens when you give creation tools to people who have no clue how to optimize

vague terrace
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Lmao

green mica
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it’s like when you let an architect actually build the house

vague terrace
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Pretty much

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Murder V3 is justified though with their crashrate of 70%

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I’m estimating cause I remember seeing a screenshot of that and it was in that ballpark

green mica
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i could go ask cryptic for the stats ngl

vague terrace
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They’re somewhere in circuits or rr studio chat

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Pretty sure it was studio chat

green mica
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I’ll just dm him

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cryptic loves me, he even has a nickname for me.
everytime i go to hang out with him he calls me “oh god this guy again, why do you keep coming here i told you to leave wtf is wrong with you get a life” RRrelieved

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it’s true love

vague terrace
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two handed gun math

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brought to you by @silent hatch

green mica
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yippe

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simple Look vector with a position offset heck yeah

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you don’t wanna see the math i use for the bullets 💀

vague terrace
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im sure I don't

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im more game logic than vectors

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whatever you send me would explode my brain

green mica
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Here’s my “simplified” Insertion Sort scoreboard system based off and optimized from the design in EvergrownPvp

vague terrace
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So like an in game leaderboard?

green mica
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with some missing stuff for setting up scores on player join and a function to remove them on leave and an update system to actually sync all the new data to all players

green mica
vague terrace
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I see that

green mica
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got a fancy lil hud for the score board that slides around to sort everyone properly

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it’s super cute and probably gave me a couple grey hairs

vague terrace
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I wish rec room would allow server sided data so you could transfer like a global server shut down

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Also allowing for custom leaderboards

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Not server sided data

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I mean global data

green mica
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if only rec room used servers 💀

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local hosting is nice and all but has its quirks

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ever notice how you don’t “rubber band” while lagging in rr

vague terrace
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Its quirks it has

green mica
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there’s no server to correct your position so all that happens is you stop sending data others and they just see you stutter constantly instead of just moving weird

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it’s why you can’t use lag switches in big multiplayers games but can in rec room

vague terrace
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Well authority based systems pause

green mica
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yup

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“Room Authority” is the server for the instance

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all player data goes to them and then goes to everyone else

sacred moss
vague terrace
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Where did I see 70%

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Wait I’m mistaken

sacred moss
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Maybe it was old, but I just looked

green mica
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dubs it’s been improved, i do remember it being high for a bit but that was probably not the games fault

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more just rec room moment fr

vague terrace
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I pretty sure it was a different room

green mica
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maybe not 70% high but more than 20%

sacred moss
green mica
sacred moss
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I figured yall would be interested

green mica
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almost done with work

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then i can go home

green mica
cedar stirrup
vague terrace
green mica
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cant wait to see cryptic reaction to some of willchils new circuits ideas.
i won’t say anything cause its all concepts rn he’s gonna suggest but if changes happen cryptic will be happy

vague terrace
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Cause in my game I have to constantly update the uis which was hell

sacred moss
green mica
green mica
vague terrace
green mica
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hm

vague terrace
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I use tags

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Which surprisingly only uses 3% for RA and 1% for other

green mica
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interestin

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anyway i drive home

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i’ll shoot ya a dm once i’m back

silent hatch
silent hatch
cedar stirrup
silent hatch
cedar stirrup
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I’m not sure this guy thought about NET heat

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And imagine if some guy joins with like 300 fps and uses the update chip

cedar stirrup
silent hatch
cedar stirrup
silent hatch
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Unsynced studio objects setting position locally

cedar stirrup
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mmm

cedar stirrup
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setting position locally

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like he’s doing it in studio?

silent hatch
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I made the thing I would know only takes like 5% net to share the target players position

cedar stirrup
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mmmm

silent hatch
cedar stirrup
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How are you sharing it?

silent hatch
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Lemme go take pics one sec

cedar stirrup
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You get position of each player?

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mmm i understand

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the position part

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and the unsynced rr object part

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do you just iterate through all players?

silent hatch
silent hatch
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And all the UI data is transferred through tags

vague terrace
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That’s why it’s smooth and not jank

ionic hatch
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Grabber component.

green mica
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Grabber won’t work cause it’s a rotation set within a studio object

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the studio objects position is already synced but not the child object inside it being rotated