possible reason for lag?

[novel halo]

So someone told me the reason for the constant freezing is when we have an event receiver and a delay chip. I tested the theory and created something in a published map I have that was running really smoothly for me. I made a leadership board configured with player time in room. As soon as it was set I was having screen freezing every 5 seconds or so. This was the players advice lol. But I have two other built maps with tons of work on it. Is there any way around this?

[light sable]

literally not true even at all

The last thing you should look at for lag is circuits

[novel halo]

Okay so help me understand

[light sable]

And if your room is made with studio, you should REALLY look at your objects, give em some LODs and optimize their colliders

[novel halo]

Not made with studio

[light sable]

Are you doing massive amounts of memory manipulation (Like modifying lists alot at the same time?)

My A* algorithm lags when I make it do alot of calculations (Like hundreds in the same tick)

[novel halo]

Hmm. I’m not sure tbh… I kinda just need someone to come in and diagnose the room a bit. My hangout map has quite a bit going on. Some major ones are:

xP rank progression (not the new rec room one)

Working dodgeball game but idk if that even matters if no one is using it

Other than that it’s mostly trigger volumes for sound, 2 random clicking area counters. Art boards. Rainbow name, a radio with music that only plays for hosts/owner.

[light sable]

the lag is not going to be caused by circuits that simple then

its going to be caused by the map itself

[marble rampart]

Cryptic, try using a 2 minute delay, do you notice any lag spike? A while ago I noticed that with longer delays, they give lag when the after delay fires.

[novel halo]

😩

[marble rampart]

This was on Quest2 however, so it may not apply

[light sable]

Some things can cause a small lag spike when loaded for the first time, not sure how much this applies to delays though
A good example of this is the first use of a studio function

[marble rampart]

Yeah but there was a consistent lag spike for 2 minute delays or higher

Maybe try it out

[novel halo]

This is an example of what I deal with

Every few seconds the screen just freezes

[marble rampart]

Go pick up your laundry

[novel halo]

lol I did haha

But yea it’s doing that same thing in my PvP one

Tons of cv2 there

[marble rampart]

While Cryptic is typing a paragraph, here's Anakin

[light sable]

Well, 2 things:

• Does these lag spikes occur ONLY when circuits are shown? if so thats not a problem (consider turning off circuit visibility and rejoining the room)
• Removing unnessary object boards, its a waste of chips (rec room thing) and its a waste of memory (computer thing), do this by configuring the object, scrolling to object board and then confirming the deletion of the object board

[novel halo]

Still does it even when circuits are hidden…

Could you explain object boards in simple terms. I’m very very new to all the creative rec terms.

[marble rampart]

When you make seat, it has object board above it

Delete the object board by configuring the seat, and clicking Remove Object Board

[light sable]

Like I said, rejoin the room after hiding the circuits as they are already cached in memory

Circuit components by default spawn with an object board, configure the object to delete this, this will save you chips (3 + any circuits inside), and memory (from the game no longer needing to render/cache the object board)

[novel halo]

Hmm. I have a lot of those actually

[novel halo]

Okay I’ll try that now

[light sable]

And each of them (from what I saw in the video) has its default object board, this means each object is going to take up 3 chips (Circuitboard, In, Out), plus a bunch of other chips that are inside the circuitboard (seat get seated player, seat set seated player, seat unseat player, seat set lock players in, seat set lock players out)

[novel halo]

So it still lags after rejoining with circuits off

But I also rejoin with circuits back on? I have to always change that setting. Is there a way to turn it off all the time?

[novel halo]

Is it literally something that says object board?

[light sable]

Makerpen Menu > Settings > Tools > General Settings > Show Components When Not Holding Makerpen

[novel halo]

Thank you

[light sable]

Configure the object using the Configure tool
Scroll down in the configure menu until you see the button labelled Delete Object Board
Delete the object board

"Object Board" is the name of the "container", the actual circuitboard name is going to be named after the component by default (like "Seat" or "Text" or "Point Light")

[novel halo]

Okay yea still the same after rejoining

[novel halo]

Alright I will go in and do all that. When deleting an object board does it change something drastic with the use of things. Sorrry if this doesn’t make sense. It makes sense in my head lol

[novel halo]

Quick question. Why would one player experience lag and another wouldn’t? Does that tell me my internet isn’t fast enough for some of these rooms?

[light sable]

internet wouldnt cause lag

RecRoom is client sided, so your data doesnt need to be uploaded to any servers

Your device is probably just worse then theirs

telling since you're on mobile

[novel halo]

This is on my ps5 though. And I’m connected through LAN

[copper ether]

Recroom is ass bro. Half the games broken, plus they keep adding new stuff that keeps breaking the game. I play on PCVR and I have my PC full on freezing for a solid 10m just to even get on, not to mention the lag as well.

1. Most players on PCVR, loading time causes the game to be slower

2. Quest standalone overall causes lots of lag becuase it's standalone

3. Playstation, recroom causes everything to be slower overall

Overall its not your device thats the problem its Recroom. The games broken on most devices. Theres your answer

[novel halo]

So I basically need to wait for rec to handle it… 🫤

[copper ether]

There's no waiting lmfao

It's broken

Every time they fix something they break something else

There's always going to be issues with recroom

[white nimbus]

Trueeee

[midnight mist]

@novel halo Replace the delay chips with your own custom delay

I experienced this in my room and it helped a lot

[novel halo]

I’m super beginner with this stuff. I’ll google what you mean lol

[midnight mist]

Circuit board is what i mean

[novel halo]

Circuit board instead of….?

[midnight mist]

Delay

You make a delay chip

Without using delay

[latent zinc]

Use a universal time chip and put a int variable on synced maybe, connect seconds to the int data slot on the variable and spawn an event receiver and set it to when int variable changed signal output. Put a bool variable to tell it when to stop and start and there.

And use a 30hz on the variable too

[uncut geyser]

The problem is with delays (just tested) if you have a 30hz into a delay cancel then each time it triggers it lags

It's a new bug

It causes lag spikes bc rr is buggy

[novel halo]

Yea… used a very simple circuit for time players are in room in an empty map… suddenly started to freeze

[uncut geyser]

I went to a event yesterday and same thing was happening

[light sable]

maybe because with longer delays, "Cancel" needs to clear a bunch of memory (clearing the queue of the delay chip)

If we assume there are 30 ticks in a second, you would need to cancel ~300 things from the queue

[uncut geyser]

Makes sense

[novel halo]

Both of my rooms have a massive amount of circuits. I’m not versed in cv2 to go in and make changes… 😑

[novel halo]

Do you think it’s gunna be worth waiting it out for rec to fix it? Or should I be going in and changing every delay and event receiver?

[uncut geyser]

Idk how to fix it so probs just waiting hopefully this Tuesday we get an update. I just reported it to Willchil

[novel halo]

Okay thanks for the help.

[midnight mist]

Both

[novel halo]

🫤

[midnight mist]

Try changing the delays and then wait

[uncut geyser]

It won't do anything like Cryptic said it's constantly adding a delay queue then when you cancel it removes them all causing a lag spike.
Willchil did say they are trying to fix it but it's difficult.

[midnight mist]

I meant a make a custom one

[uncut geyser]

Eh not really worth it it will probs be fixed in an update or 2 lmaoo

People can just deal with lag I mean TMNT is the laggiest RRO

[midnight mist]

Bruh my room has a 8% crash rate

😐

Also you’re wrong its rec royale

[white nimbus]

low numbers

mine is 30%

[midnight mist]

🧢

[light sable]

having a high mobile crash rate is not a problem

they crash all the time

the rec center probably has a 30% crash rate

[uncut geyser]

Imagine TMNT Lmao

[white nimbus]

what’s murder v3 mobile crash rate?

[light sable]

20.5%

[white nimbus]

yeah not bad for a room with 4k circuits

[midnight mist]

What if your vr crash rateis high

[glossy briar]

did a workaround for the time being, yet even so, the saving of the room and having everything yet the CV2 saved should be sorted first