#Did a little activity reward testing.

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wild wasp
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I haven't actually tracked the rewards myself in years, so today I decided to do a quick test. I took an alt and went and played dodgeball with myself and these are the results.

It took 20 games for my lower level alt to obtain 1 x First time game reward and 12 Activity rewards. It took 26 games for my level 50 to get the same. I did a few more games and never got another box. We moved on to the daily with 2 games of CTF and no other boxes till the daily reward box. Between the selections, I chose tokens every time. My alt gained 330 tokens from the 14 boxes total and my main with RR+ gained 294 tokens.

One thing I still do not understand is how they are doing these odd "tests" with the tokens. My main was offered 10(21 with RR+) as a 1 star, while my alt was offered 15. Meaning if he had RR+, it would be 30. Then 2 star is 30, 3 star as 60 while mine came up to 84 with RR+. You would think that paying for "double the tokens" I would end up with more than one without RR+. Anyways, random is random I guess. I will do it again after reset and see what the results come of that.

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inner hazel
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That’s interesting the difference in token amounts. Talking out of my ass here, but my first thought is maybe at some point they changed the token amounts, but maybe due to an oversight if you had a RR+ subscription originating from before that change being implemented, you’d just get the original amounts.

wild wasp
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3 star box, getting "less" tokens than a non-RR+ 3 star box.

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Sure, you are getting 2X reward, but we lowered the base reward so you are only getting a little more than the non-RR+

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@coral dune Last time I complained about this, you went and cleared the supposed test and it returned all values to normal. Sure, it is nice to see a little more tokens on the non-RR+, but why is the base lower on the RR+ side?

tardy goblet
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i believe the more levels you reach the harder it is to get a boxs, my proof is when i grind on my alt e.g dodge ball i seem to get way more boxs around 1 every 3 games keep in mind this account is level 13, but on my main level 50 account i play 5 games of dodge ball i struggle to get anyting sometime not even my first game box even tho i haven't played for days.

tardy goblet
wild wasp
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Trying to reemember what they were, before they changed them again.

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like 25/50/100, what was the other level

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Was there 75

tawdry oracle
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Or five star, I don't remember.

wild wasp
tawdry oracle
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@pseudo isle What did you get all of to have less tokens again?

pseudo isle
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4 star

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And i believe paintball and dodgeball etc have gotten reduced packages to reduce afk farming

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Like go beat a quest and youll get a package 100% of them time

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Although the 3 star changing from 60 to 42 is actually false advertising

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Ill ticket that

wild wasp
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Today's results, I did 17 games of Dodgeball for both players to get their first game/12 activity rewards/daily challenge and it came to 345 tokens for the level 38 without RR+ and 294 tokens for the one with RR+.

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Also, it seems as if it does not reset at UTC as I thought they did. I will have to check the time again, but I tried multiple times after yesterday, UTC midnight, local midnight, 14 hours after first game, and it was not till this evening (24 hours after last first game) that they reset.

tawdry oracle
wild wasp
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I'll try a little earlier tomorrow.

tawdry oracle
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Okay.

pseudo isle
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Or did the base change aswell

wild wasp
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This token discrepancy really kind of ticks me off though. I get random being random, but the fact that I am getting less base tokens is insane.

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yeah, same as yesterday

pseudo isle
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The token can literally be considered false advertising

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You pay for double, you should get double

wild wasp
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15/30/60 on the non-RR+, and 21/42/84 with the RR+

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Didn't see any 4 star option in the past 2 days, did get 1 bubbly.

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And it is liek they put a half token in there, cause the 10(21) is like it is 10.5

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So 21 is the 2 star for (42).

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Then 42(84) for the 3 star

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I assume it is 84(168) for the 4 start

pseudo isle
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The token frequency can be explained by

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wild wasp
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But, I know it was 120(240) last year.

pseudo isle
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But its a valid reason nonetheless

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So if you had more items on your rr+ acc then that makes sense

wild wasp
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Looking at my alt, that keeps getting offered 3 star clothing, it does seem to look that way. Every time he had a 3 star token, 60, there was a 3 star item on there.

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Like the 3 star shared from my main above.

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Examples of 1/2/3 star on my alt.

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pseudo isle
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Notice the clothing being present in 2/3

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Its because the more possible x start clothing, the more youll be likely to get x star box

wild wasp
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But, see my one above, KO icon, 3star pizza and 3 star tokens. There are 3 star consumables. Hell, you can even get 5 star consumable, but can't get 5 star items.

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There are 4 star ones as well, and that was part of my complaint on the repeat weeklies. Like it says "4 star item" but gives you 1 star film. At least give a 4 star consumable if you have all 4 star items.

pseudo isle
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If you were to put your hand in a box with every 3* item and cosumables or a box with just consumable
Which would you more likely grab a 3 star item from

pseudo isle
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You can still get commons in rare boxes

wild wasp
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I don't get what you mean? Are you asking a choice of all items or just consumables?

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I have all 4 star and below items. So all I can get is consumables.

pseudo isle
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I complained about this months ago and you said "its just business"

wild wasp
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Don't know the actual star levls of all the consumables off hand. Can't seem to search it anywhere either. I'd assume there are more 1 star than 3 and 4 star.

pseudo isle
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So which kind of box would you more likely get
A high value one or a low value

wild wasp
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There are more 3 and 4 star consumables than there are 1 and 2

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A list I just threw together.

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pseudo isle
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Welp ig consumables have a weird drop rate

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Either way
Its literally been confirmed by zendesk, tokens are less likely if you own all clothing items

wild wasp
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Where is that confirmation? Cause that image you posted above does not confirm it. It just confirms that tokens, when offered, are typically in line with the level of other items. A lot of the clothing items you get are 2-3 star with some 4 star. Just like the other random selections, those are not guarantees to come up more or less.

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The thing that is getting me is the discrepancy in token value. Like the fact that had I had the same value as my alt and RR+, I would have received 840 tokens instead of 580 in the past 2 days.

pseudo isle
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That's why its confirmation

pseudo isle
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It feels illegal

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Its advertised as 2x, not 1.4x

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So you expect 2x when you buy it yet given something completely different

wild wasp
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So, just got confirmation that it is yet another split test that is going to run till the end of the year where they have 3 groups, less than normal, normal, and higher than normal, to see if it leads to them spending/buying more tokens. Just so happens that my main account is on the "less than normal" side which I still think it BS. I still hate their split tests concepts despite understanding why they do some of them. But, it should never reduce the amount of something you are already getting for "testing purposes".

If anything, this has now solidified my reason to get rid of RR+ even more.

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Oh, and the part on the answer from support. I don't think the ones that answer those support tickets know anything about the game. They just give the copy/paste answer for most questions and everything else they take their best effort guess on. If you keep pressuring them for the "right" answer, they will reply with "We will go ahead and forward this to our team and get back to you as soon as we can." so that they can get the correct answer.

I agree, but the looks of things, that the tokens offered balance with the other items. Like if your activity reward was a 2 star box, you would get 1-2 star items and 2 star tokens could be one of the things in it.

inner hazel
wild wasp
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I don't even remember the low token default, what was it, 10/25/50/100

inner hazel
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It’s such a shame that players just get roped into “worse rec room” because the split test gods deem it so

pseudo isle
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Yea...

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Till the end of the year?

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At least let me opt out

pseudo isle
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Also @wild wasp was your response from Zendesk?

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Or did you talk to a dev

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Cuz when I opened a ticket the response was
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Hi there,

Thanks for writing. We will forward this to the team and get back to you as soon as we can.

Cheers,
Rec Room Support Team
"

chilly rose
pseudo isle
stiff lion
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I miss the old rewards system

wild wasp
wild wasp
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So, it does seem that the activity rewards are 24 hour reset. The first game reward is less than that though. Just did 17 more dodgeball games and received 4 on my alt, 6 on my main, going to give it a try in an hour as it is riding right on the 24 hour mark from yesterday. But, of those boxes, 120 tokens for the alt, 105 for the main. Would have been 150 had I been on the "greater" split test.

tawdry oracle
wild wasp
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The daily challenge is, not the first activity box or activty box rewards

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Also, why do candy apples not show their price?

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tawdry oracle
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Oh, I got them mixed up.

inner hazel
wild wasp
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Those are normal apples

tawdry oracle
inner hazel
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Ah

pseudo isle
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Wtf are candy apples

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Ive never seen those

inner hazel
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Apples with candy on them

tawdry oracle
wild wasp
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The candy apples are in the Rec Center for 95 tokens

inner hazel
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Usually caramels

wild wasp
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Never seen a candy apple in real life?

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It is just a candy coating, like a lollipop, that they are dipped in.

pseudo isle
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Ive seen caramel apples

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Never candy

wild wasp
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Same concept, usually the caramel is a little softer

wild wasp
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I got two 4 star boxes on my alt, making his token total 510 for the day and one on my main, which should have been 120, or even 100, X2 for 240/200, not this 168 BS. So, 399 for the total today on the main, should have been 570 if I had the same token base.

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wild wasp
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Day 4, Alt gets 455 tokens, main with RR+ gets 357.

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Only took 17 games for each of them to get the 12 Activity boxes, plus daily and first game.

unreal crest
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if you keep doing this I'll make a graph

tawdry oracle
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please do

stiff lion
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Honestly rewards should be based off performance

wild wasp
# stiff lion Honestly rewards should be based off performance

Nah, the game is casual and you don't want people that win all the time to only be getting the most rewards. I'm fine with random, so long as the random is the same chance for everyone. Right now, with the split test of tokens, it is not the same for everyone.

wild wasp
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Didn't play for a couple days, and the 24 hour box reset makes it push the time further and further anyways. But, this would be day 5.

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Alt got his 12 boxes in 14 games with the daily and first game, made 285 tokens.

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Main got his 12 boxes in 19 games and with the daily/first game made 609 tokens.

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So, the first time in 5 days I actually made more, but that is random being random. I'm still getting the "lower than normal" rate.

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And candy apples showed up with a price today.

pseudo isle
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@wild wasp if its not too big of a hassel
Can you start recording the non token options token values

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Idk the word for it

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Anything that isnt straight up tokens
Just the value at the bottom

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Separate from the actual token count tho

wild wasp
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I know what you are talking about, but already taking a fair bit of time to record the details I have. I have been screen capturing most of my alts rewards. Missed a few here and there, but you are talking like this 450, 750. 500.

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I've just been recording the basics, like pizza/donut/15 and the game it was in.

pseudo isle
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So overall
The alt is getting more value

wild wasp
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I mean I guess, cause I don't get clothing offeres on my main anymore, I have all the 4 star and below.

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But, a cake, a bubbly, the bubble tea all have been things I have picked up lately.

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They are 500 - 1000 tokens.

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Like I show in that chart above

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It is odd the value they have on some of the items though. Like a bubble tea is 1000 tokens, but a 3 star item.

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While a popcorn is 4 star for 100.

pseudo isle
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I can answer that

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Rec room makes stupid choices

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Glad I could help