I posted this here a while ago but I still need help.

[primal lotus]

I'm working on a mario party type game but I can't figure something out. I'm using pistons to make the pieces move but I couldn't get the to turn, the really nice people on this server told me to use go to chips, lerp chips and invisible collision as markers but I didn't really understand. I will admit that I'm not good at circuits but I'm also not bad, I'm just very mid at circuits so you may need to dum down your explanation so I can understand. Thank you in advance!

[crisp lark]

Welp, sometimes u just have to buckle down and understand, idk wut else to tell u, if all those ppl gave u a solution, you should try understand it, bc i can tell u rn, the ppl saying lerp are correct.

So by making another post like this, your not gonna get any different answers. But nonetheless, im try to explain it step by step. but if u dont understand it, thats that.

First question, are u looking to save on ink, or chip space?

[primal lotus]

It's not a priority at the moment because the game's in a very early state.

[crisp lark]

sooo, you dont want me to explain it in probaly the easiest way, a step by step conversational format?

[primal lotus]

No that would be nice.

[crisp lark]

Mk, well anyway, you want to save on ink or chips?

[primal lotus]

Yeah sure.

[crisp lark]

save on either chips or ink, its one or the other

[primal lotus]

I'm sorry I thought you were asking if i wanted to do both smh, 🤦‍♂️ I want to save on ink.

[crisp lark]

ok, then a "Vector3 create" and a "Quaternion create" are going to be your points on the board the peice will go to.

First off, spawn those and a "vector component" and "get position" and "get rotation".

This is going to have you painstakingly record its position and rotation exactly into the corresponding Vector3 create for postion, and quaternion create for rotation. The higher on ink way is easier btw

do NOT enter the position and rotations yet btw, you also need "vector3 split" & "quaternion split"

[primal lotus]

Ok I got it.

[crisp lark]

ok, do you have show pivot on in makerpen general settings?

[primal lotus]

Yeah.

[crisp lark]

Rotation snap 90 or 45?

[primal lotus]

Hold on lemme set it to that real quick.

[primal lotus]

Ok got it

[crisp lark]

ok, do you know the global axis of your room? You MUST know otherwise everything will be very wrong. If you dont ill explain how to make a circuit that lets u know

[primal lotus]

how do i check that?

[crisp lark]

event receiever configured to 30hz, get local player position, vector split, to string all x,y,z with 3 to string chips, then string format, configure, add 2 more inputs, and plug in the x,y,z to string accordingly with format set to "{0} {1} {2}". Then plug the output of format into show subtitle activated by the 30hz, and study your position.

if the 1st value increases, your going in the right direction of the global axis, if it decreases your going to the left direction of the global axis.

if the 2nd value increases, your going in the up direction, if it decreases your going in the down direction.

if the 3rd value increases, your going in the forward direction, if it decreases your going in the backwards direction.

[crisp lark]

also, to make it even easier to understand, round the x,y,z before plugging them into their to strings

[primal lotus]

Done! Sorry i took so long.

[crisp lark]

Its fine, now that thats done, make sure your facing the forward direction, and you have uniform shapes, dont rotate while moving, and world space toggled on

[primal lotus]

Ok got it

[crisp lark]

alright, so now create a cube (making sure to face the forward direction) and stretch out the ends of it (like a rectangle) and select it, and choose "center pivot" and press done editing

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

now recolor the rectangle blue and clone another at its same position by pressing the white plus sign tab, edit 1 of the rectangles, and rotate it to where combined, the two create a sideways "+" shape (NOT upright, it should only look like a plus when your looking above or down on it), then recolor red, and done editing

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

ok, and clone the blue rectangle directly again and edit 1 of them and rotate it up and recolor it green, done editing.

Then select the blue rectangle first, and then the other 2, and merge

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

ok, then save that, and the position displaying circuit as an invention. Now u have a device that tells you the global axis, just remember to rotate to where the blue is facing forwards, and green is facing upwards

but no seriously this will come in handy for this as well

[crisp lark]

also, make sure the pivot point looks like the plus thing. Blue to blue, green to green, red to red.

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

ok, so now rotate the forward direction of the board game you want to face the forward direction of the plus thing

the positions dont have to be alinged

[primal lotus]

ok done

[crisp lark]

now make sure the board pivot is centered, and the blue is in same direction as the blue on the plus and the green is in same direction as the green on the plus

[primal lotus]

k done

[crisp lark]

Also, by this point you dont need the position displaying circuit, we needed that to make the plus thing so we can alwaya make a reference to it

[primal lotus]

oh ok

[crisp lark]

now move the vector component to the first spot on the board, making sure its facing the direction the peice should go

[primal lotus]

k got it

[crisp lark]

now plug the vector component into the get position and get rotation

[primal lotus]

ok done

[crisp lark]

Are you on PC, Console, or Mobile?

[primal lotus]

im on quest 2

[crisp lark]

ah dang, if u were on one of those, screen mode, you could copy and paste the values in, your gonna have to type them- 🙏

Ok, anyway, then plug those into the vector and quaternion split, and type each value from the splits precisely into the vector and quaternion splits

[primal lotus]

oh thats so annoying

gimmie a sec

[crisp lark]

yeah, but its the way to save ink xD

[crisp lark]

WAIITTT

@primal lotus Subtract the position of the board from the vector component, thats what you have to split, and never mind the get rotation, i forgot i foundout better way xD

[primal lotus]

oh thats really useful lmao thanks!

[crisp lark]

ye xDDD

[primal lotus]

ok got it

brb i gotta do something real quick

ok back

[crisp lark]

but yeah, nowwww type the value from the subtract split into the vector create. (Make sure you subtracted in correct order, im not on rn so idk xD if its the wrong order, unfortunately u have to type that in to figure it out, find out by testing it (ill tell u how) and if its correct order, u keep it, otherwise gotta reverse the order of the subtract and type that in 😭

Also, sorry again but i also just so happened to remember it turns 😭, so u WILL need the get rotation and split, and type into a quaternion create

Sorry i been so off, im not on rn and lack sleep xD

[crisp lark]

ok, here ^ xD

[primal lotus]

oh its fine

got it

[crisp lark]

ok, now add the vector create to the position of the board, and set position of something like a button to the output

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

if it ends up at position of vector component, we good, otherwise gotta change the order in the subtract and type it into the create again xD

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

alright, now u know the subtract order is correct... Hmmm, honestly dont know bout rotation, its would be the same idea as the vector, subtract the boards rotation by the vectors components rotation, put that into a quaternion create, but im not sure thats how that works/cant subtract quaternions

maybe try get rotation of the board, split it.
get rotation of the vector component, split it.
then subtract each value by the other, (x - x, y-y, etc) and PLUG (dont type) that into an quaternion create, and try setting rotation of something to that quaternion create

@primal lotus ^

[primal lotus]

ok i'll do that

alr done

[crisp lark]

did the object u rotated's pivot match with the vector component's pivot?

upon set rotation

[primal lotus]

yeah

[crisp lark]

hmm, ok, just to make absolute sure, rotate vector component to the left of its current rotation by 45 degrees and set rotation of the object again

[primal lotus]

ok did it

[crisp lark]

they match up?

[primal lotus]

yes

[crisp lark]

hmm ok, that seems to work then, so now return the vector component to its normal rotation and enter the subtracts into the quaternion create

[primal lotus]

k did it

[crisp lark]

alr, THATS POINT ONE xD now point 2, same thing, new vector create. If point 2 is same rotation as point 1, no need to enter its subtracted rotation into a quaternion create

[primal lotus]

damn thats alot

[crisp lark]

Yep, and its for every point xD however once again, only need new quaternion create when theres a new rotation

once again, more ink way is WAY easier

xD

[primal lotus]

ok well imma do that now

[crisp lark]

the ink way? or continuing this more chip way?

[primal lotus]

lets continue the more chip way

[crisp lark]

ok xD goodluck 🙏

[primal lotus]

im probably gonna need it XD

[crisp lark]

yee xD just gonna take awhile.

just tell me when all points are set up xD

[primal lotus]

ok i will

thanks in advance!

[crisp lark]

Np! 😄

well, while you doing that, it'd actually be lil more efficient to just tell u the next step so u arent waiting for me to type xD

List create, and add each vector create into one list create, configure to add more inputs.

After that, clone the list create, and plug in the quaternion creates where they're used.

Example: if points 1-3 are the same rotation, plug in the same quaternion create for the first 3 inputs of the list create.

[crisp lark]

Basically this

P = Point
R = Rotation

Alsooo, actually, a cheaper way is with Int value switch

So get 2 of those, they behave just like lists, just cheaper. Only thing is u cant save their data like list, but im pretty sure u wont be needing to do that

And do everything i said about the list, but for 1 int switch for positions, clone it, and plug in the corresponding rotations

[primal lotus]

im finally done😩

[crisp lark]

xD yeah

that took like over 30 mins lmao

[primal lotus]

ik😔

[crisp lark]

@primal lotus but yeah, now do this, add compare values from 1 - (ammount of points (subtract by one because you should use the first vector create as the "default" port on the int switches))

or well, start from 2, not 1

bc 1 will be default

[primal lotus]

ok

did it

[crisp lark]

alright, and clone that for rotations

[primal lotus]

alr done

[crisp lark]

alr, and positions and rotations are plugged into there corresponding inputs?

[primal lotus]

alr did it

[crisp lark]

ok, now u have the cv2 dice right?

[primal lotus]

yes

[crisp lark]

ok, so on roll complete, add int variable by the result, and also hook the output of it to the match on the int switches

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

alright, now after you add int variable, if int variable greater than the amount of points, then set int variable to the amount of points.

[primal lotus]

ok did it

[crisp lark]

Or wait, use greater or equal to, than u'll know when they reached the end of the points too

[primal lotus]

oh ok

got it

[crisp lark]

Alright, will users ever be able to like, hold the board? or will it always be in one place?

[primal lotus]

it will be in one place

[crisp lark]

ok, are you comfortable with using delay? They take no CPU untill activated. However event receiever configured to 30Hz is more reliable but has idle cpu

[primal lotus]

i think i should use the event reciever

[crisp lark]

ok, so after rolled (if reached the end or not (so use the "else" on the if check for when int variable is greater or equal to, and after int variable is set to ammount of points there are)) set bool variable true

Then event receiever configured to 30 Hz, if bool variable

[primal lotus]

ok i did it

[crisp lark]

Alright, nows bout time you make sure your moving peice has its pivot centered, and set position of the peice to position of the first vector create

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

alr, now edit it, and raise it above the board if its not already

[primal lotus]

oh its already there

[crisp lark]

ok, thats good.

Now on the vector int value switch, add the "data" output of the board to the position of the board, and plug that into rotate vector, with rotation of the boards rotation

[primal lotus]

ok done

[crisp lark]

alright, now plug that into the "End" of a "lerp" chip. You can play with progress after its done but for now set it to "0.05" or sumn

And plug the position of the peice to the "Start" of the lerp

[primal lotus]

ok done

[crisp lark]

alright, now for the rotation switch, quaternion split, and add it to the split of the boards rotation and put that into a quaternion create.

And idk what the quaternion equivalent of "rotate vector" is for quaternions, but u may not even need it? xD only one way to know. Plug that into the "End" of a slerp, and the peice rotation as "Start" with progress "0.1" or sumn

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

now plug the lerp into position, and slerp into rotation of a set transform

[primal lotus]

ok got it

[crisp lark]

And actually, im not sure bout this bool variable thing, but it might be cheaper, especially for idle cpu.

But after the set transform, if distance of peice to the output of the rotate vector equals 0, then set bool variable false

And then plug the "then" from the if that has the 30Hz into set transform and you should be done!

I would also direction connect the 30Hz to the set transform and unplug the if after it just to make sure its cheaper

[primal lotus]

ok done

finally

[crisp lark]

Expect issues with rotation tho xD not very confident about the whole thing. Definitely need the "rotate vector" equivalent for quaternions so it supports the changes in direction in any orientation

@primal lotus ^

[primal lotus]

ok

also thanks alot its working really well!

[crisp lark]

but the changes in position should work in any orientation 👌

[crisp lark]

np! 😄

[primal lotus]

welp ima go to sleep its like 2 am now

[crisp lark]

same xD good night :3

Hopefully someone can come in with some info for the quaternions

[primal lotus]

good night

[crisp lark]

ill add come up with a way that goes from point to point too

also, if this is multipayer, there neede to be some networking

[crisp lark]

@primal lotus This is how to make go from a point, 1 point at a time