if there were one update you would delete, what would it be?

[hexed fiber]

I don't pay much attention to the updates, but I guess I could say the showdown one, but we wouldn't have the game so nevermind.

[bold cape]

The maker pen new menu, period.

[hexed fiber]

Looking back, the old one seems pretty easy to explore. Also, the CV2 circuits don't really interest me as much as the CV1 circuits.

[polar python]

The one update that changed how you get tokens and rewards from rec room originals

[brittle ore]

Bring back 3d buttons on watch and maker pen

[bold cape]

where they changed the screen mode controls and completely nerfed the sword dash

[bold cape]

bro i hate that update so much

[bold cape]

yea

the sword dash was the one thing that made glitching in quests possible

[tame vector]

way to complicated to use it for simple things

[bold cape]

True

That’s why I want it gone

[finite skiff]

The loading screen update.

That singular update broke all of SteamVR and it’s still not fixed

[chilly badge]

I'd remove the update that removed the Orientation challenges that gave new players a few hundred tokens to spend on whatever they want

[bold cape]

the update where the minimum cost of inventions turned into 250. They just changed it because they want more money

[median sinew]

Rec room plus.

Better yet, remove the update which added microtransactions in the form of buying stuff.

[bold cape]

True

[chilly badge]

I dont think RR+ in general is a bad thing nor all of the transactions for tokens but the constant low quality bundles need to go

[median sinew]

No, rr+ being added was the beginning of a very steep decline into greed.

It wasn't just rr+ that was the issue, it was everything that went with that.

[bold cape]

They made rr+ exclusive items

now ppl can flex their money

[median sinew]

The emphasis of people spamming microtransactions in their rooms, the constant gating of things behind rr+, the showdown early access thing, everything with that.

[gaunt shore]

I strongly agree with that

[bold cape]

the creator program

[gaunt shore]

The showdown early access thing kind of pissed me off

[median sinew]

Hell, even the amulet came from that, as before people with rr+ could make tokens if they were lucky enough, nobody would even dream of just giving money away like that unless they had no concept of money.

Rec room plus was the beginning of a darker route for the company and by proxy, the game.

[primal briar]

I like being able to sell stuff and earn money off of what I make it’s more valuable than you guys understand

[bold cape]

shut up

[gaunt shore]

Oh yeah, The amulet was stupid. I feel like they intentionally made the price high so people could spend their money to buy tokens

[bold cape]

they need to feature smaller creators

[primal briar]

Yeah who do you think I am? I’m not some big ass creator

[bold cape]

because they feature those big one with like thousands of subscribers

[gaunt shore]

I feel like it's unfair that big creators always win contests, beginner and smaller creators need more recognition

[primal briar]

Well that’s a quality thing

[bold cape]

true

[median sinew]

You are just benefitting a system. Everything is meant to benefit the large creators, while selling a dream to others. The 30% cut isn't even to fund anything, it is just to take more tokens out of circulation.

[primal briar]

That’s called an economy

[bold cape]

your ass is called an economy and it’s bad

[primal briar]

Dude your yt is about Roblox don’t be piping up

[hexed fiber]

Just ignore him. Saying out of interaction with this guy.

[primal briar]

Fair not worth the time

[bold cape]

you don’t check

[median sinew]

Yes, one that is designed to profit off of children who have no concept of money, manipulative fomo tactics, aggressive monetization, only benefitting people who are already big, and losing all of the soul that was once there.

[hexed fiber]

Your opinion, kid. That is literally what it's about.

[primal briar]

honestly nothing wrong without you guys just put a bad spin on this you don’t ever have to buy anything ever just because you feel like you have to doesn’t mean you do

[median sinew]

I've played this game for 4 years, and it has been steadily declining, with rec room plus being the biggest blow to the game's spirit. It is a soulless shell to make nothing but money now, and it is sad.

[bold cape]

You still don’t check.

[primal briar]

You guys understand it’s a free game and the developers have to make a living too right?

[hexed fiber]

I'm talking about experience and interaction. I'm not going to go back and forth.

[median sinew]

I'm not saying I have to. I'm saying a system that is designed to profit off of younger children with no concept of money is inherently a bad system.

[bold cape]

It seems like we are now.

[primal briar]

It’s a system that works and tbh more companies do this than you realize

[hexed fiber]

Yeah, like Roblox. They're right on how stupid it is, but that's literally economy.

[median sinew]

I am fine with there being some monetization. Nothing is fully free. Just don't have a system that is manipulative like that. I know many companies do it, but that doesn't make it okay.

None of it is okay.

[primal briar]

It makes it the norm and I’m fine with that

[bold cape]

I just want them to make it to favor small creators.

They give big creators so much advantages.

[median sinew]

The norm doesn't mean it is okay.

[bold cape]

And little creators barely get anything.

[primal briar]

That would remove the incentive to net work and grow their influence

[hexed fiber]

Yes and no, more likely pushing us too hard to reach that level of imagination and creation.

[median sinew]

That is ridiculous, most times you can't unless you get lucky.

[bold cape]

I’ve tried to make stuff, but ultimately gave up considering how small my stuff would even do.

[median sinew]

You have to be lucky to be successful, I've seen garbage that does amazing, and passion projects that fall off in moments.

It is just depressing.

[primal briar]

Is that not how the world works?

[hexed fiber]

That's why I just make stuff for me, and if other people want it, they can have it. Most of the other stuff I just get with tokens or do something else with something else.

[bold cape]

And the worst part is, there could be someone pouring their heart and soul into something, only for it to fail.

[hexed fiber]

In the gaming community, maybe, but the way they work is a little more. Feels like Microsoft being a bad influence over these kinds of games though. Economically speaking.

[bold cape]

don’t forget EA.

[hexed fiber]

EA is the worst.

[primal briar]

Praise be to Microsoft, ruler of the 3 gaming realms

[hexed fiber]

When they took Minecraft, that was our fault. With other games like Rec Room and Roblox, those were kinda intentional because it's still by the same people and wasn't bid on to someone else like Microsoft who's already money-grabbing from kids.

[bold cape]

oof I hate that one

Rec room should just be free.

No more buying rr+

No more buying tokens

No more exclusive behind a paywall items

[bold cape]

They need money

[hexed fiber]

Didn't it used to be free before they added the membership?

[bold cape]

yeah

[hexed fiber]

Well free seems like an overstatement, but basically a little freer.

[bold cape]

True

just get rid of the partnership program

and rr+

and the exclusive paywall items

[primal briar]

So remove most sources of income

How would you like it if we just removed your parents source of income? Now multiply this to fit a whole suburban block

[bold cape]

That is, if my parents had a game company.

(Which they don’t)

[primal briar]

People can be good looking or smart and today you look great my friend

[bold cape]

thanks you too

also next time

start talking to an actual person

instead of a wall

You look ridiculous

[primal briar]

Likewise bud

[bold cape]

I cant see anyone else in this room besides you

[glossy cedar]

hi

[foggy oracle]

cv2 🤤🙏🙏🤯🔥