#pronouns under nametag option

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next gyro
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um

real rock
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what

near needle
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my goodness, what happened here?

next gyro
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damn it

real rock
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the thing got deleted or smt

next gyro
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I’m actually truly sorry

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I didn’t mean for that to happen

real rock
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it was just people arguing

near needle
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how is that an accident?

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/nm

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is there a way to undo it?

real rock
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no

near needle
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which one?

next gyro
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Whoever is was it doesn’t matter now, I’m truly sorry guys

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Really really sorry

real rock
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its fine its just like some random kids arguing about gay and gender

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L

near needle
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all I really saw before it got deleted was someone pointing out that @wise halo was being toxic

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which was what it was before anyway

real rock
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There were more people being toxic

near needle
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yeah, I was catching up, then it all got deleted

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but why did so many people have to come here just to argue about pronouns?

real rock
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idk

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as a trans male who has a high pitched voice i definitely wouldnt mind them RRwah

near needle
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I got misgendered when I was going by my birth pronouns, and I did not like it one bit

real rock
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rip

near needle
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and I don't want to imagine how other people feel

near needle
next gyro
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Coming back to this forum to say I’m really sorry everyone! I didn’t mean for that to happen

near needle
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it's fine

covert moat
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why is there six mods and two staff members following this thread

near needle
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I have no idea

next gyro
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I actually feel really bad because there was actually very good ideas in the forum. people creating ideas and making concept and actually could’ve been made an reality.

If you do want to repost any concept you had posted from before you can. I’m truly sorry

near needle
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@covert moat, do you still have the picture?

covert moat
near needle
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thanks!

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I'm not sure what else there was

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I think there was some talk of adding the flags there too

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and a toggle button in the watch menu

dawn moon
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I sorta feel disgusted but yet greatful

near needle
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?

dawn moon
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It shows pronouns, something I hate most

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Might as well make my pronouns potato/swiss cheese

near needle
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why?

near needle
next gyro
next gyro
dawn moon
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How is it disrespectful as you claim?

covert moat
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what's your problem with pronouns

dawn moon
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Ze / dam zem

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Wth is that

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For pronouns

near needle
real rock
real rock
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Ye

dawn moon
near needle
covert moat
# covert moat

it wouldn't be messy at all if they did it like how this mockup is

balmy girder
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What happened

near needle
real rock
balmy girder
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Bruh

dawn moon
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More than everything is happening at once

balmy girder
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All those messages

near needle
balmy girder
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Killed by a train

dawn moon
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💀

polar sandal
dawn moon
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Yo can I post a not related image in here?

polar sandal
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being trans or gay makes you sexy

real rock
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exactly

covert moat
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exactly

near needle
polar sandal
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all the cute girls are trans

real rock
polar sandal
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all the sexy boys are trans

balmy girder
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true

wise halo
# dawn moon Wth is that

one google search will tell you that those are gender neutral pronouns.

i could understand the whole "nametag would be too messy" point but it seriously seems like people are only agreeing with that point because they're against pronouns in general. live and let live.

dawn moon
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💀:

real rock
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ur local trans male with very high pitched voice 😳

balmy girder
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i mean just dont make the nametag too big honestly if i get misgendered i simply dont care but i understand if people need it

dawn moon
near needle
dawn moon
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Also a reason to why the whole pronouns things under ur name tag is a bad idea is due to how many people disrespect people for gender

dawn moon
real rock
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”on rec room”

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no one:

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my cat:

wise halo
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leave it optional then. people who are uncomfortable with displaying their pronouns shouldn't have to.

near needle
near needle
real rock
dawn moon
dawn moon
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YoU lIkE pIlLs¿

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ThErE fReE

real rock
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i like vitamin d pills they keep me stable<3 (for now)

near needle
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also, why are people so opposed to pronouns?

real rock
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idk

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bEcAuSe nO oNe cAres cheers are more important RRtroll

near needle
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and if we were to live without them, life would be difficult

real rock
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yes

near needle
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just imagine school "teacher would like class to hand in homework"

dawn moon
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Teachers tell us to use common sense, yet they don't use it when it comes to an argument that the student is correct in 😔

covert moat
real rock
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nice pronoun usage

dawn moon
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I actually want pronouns like potato/union to exist

dawn moon
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Don't know why, and don't want to know why, my brains refusing to tell me anyway.

real rock
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bro

dawn moon
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Wth.

real rock
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scream

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AH

dawn moon
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Nerdy apple

real rock
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dies

dawn moon
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Bing

near needle
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this is just no longer about pronouns

dawn moon
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😎

wise halo
# covert moat

i think being able to swap your cheer badge out for one of the pride badges would be a neat addition as well.
concept below v

wise halo
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it wouldn't add more clutter and since cheer badges aren't very important anyways, being able to switch between the two makes sense.

covert moat
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that's even better than my concept

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gladly replace my cheer badge with a pride badge

near needle
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yeah

dawn moon
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Ngl that's pretty smart

wise halo
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made a few adjustments. added a backdrop to the flag and made it so the pronouns somewhat match the name. thoughts?

near needle
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looks good 👍

wise halo
balmy girder
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I reckon it might make it too cluttered. Your pronouns and sexuality are more something people who want to know you should know, having everyone’s pronouns and sexualities displayed for everyone to see all the time would get confusing for alot of people.

covert moat
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confusing how exactly?

chrome forge
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Oh hecc, i didn’t realise this was in the feedback channel, just heard about it and thought it was interesting

chrome forge
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That sounds way more intense than i mean it to

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For people who are already really into all the LGBT+ stuff it may be easier to take in, but for those who aren’t as into it all it just makes it a bunch of extra information they may never need. If they wanna properly talk to a person they’ll likely check the person’s profile and see it there, having it on display all the time may make people feel like it’d be difficult to the person since even before knowing them there seem to be these rules set out for them

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It might be lovely for people with a less common gender or sexuality, but for others it’s just more information they feel they’re supposed to take in for a person they might never even see again

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Not that the idea of it isn’t good, it’s good for people to be more aware of it, but those people need to make themselves more aware of it. If they didn’t want to remember the person’s gender and sexuality before they probably won’t want to if it’s shoved in their face either (not that this would be as intense as shoving it in their face, but i can’t think of a milder version of that idiom 😅)

wise halo
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that's fair

polar sandal
uneven wind
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I want people to know my pronouns but I don't need them above my head

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It's like walking out on the street in real life with your pronouns taped to your chest on a large sign

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nobody will ever use it but they will see it

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and if they want your pronouns they can just ask

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like how in recroom you can just click on their profile without needing to ask, so it's more convenient in recroom than real life already

polar sandal
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quality of life

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since you talk to people a lot more often in rec room then you do irl you’ll only notice the small text with their pronouns when you’re close enough to talk to them.

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and again, optionally.

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i don’t get why you’re so adamant on this not being added, do you LIKE misgendering people every day?

uneven wind
# polar sandal and again, optionally.

optional doesn't matter because:

A - I still want my pronouns but I don't want them above my head
B - Other people can still put pronouns above their head and I don't have an option to stop them

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Also what is the point of putting pronouns above you when you can't put your flag above you?

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people might assume I'm trans

polar sandal
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so you literally just want to silence someone’s comfort so you can do an extra step which is opening their profile

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it’s such a good idea to add pronouns so people don’t have to put it i. there usernames but i don’t get why you’re so adamant on not having it

uneven wind
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also like I said before, the pronouns "they/them" should work for every gender regardless

polar sandal
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i know this is a very foreign concept but have you considered people are uncomfortable getting misgendered every day

uneven wind
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well they have some sort of rare mental disorder because that makes no sense

uneven wind
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If somebody comes up and assumes I'm a woman I wouldn't care

polar sandal
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dude

uneven wind
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It's no big deal

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not the end of the world

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Just correct them and there problem solved

polar sandal
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you aren’t trans so you can’t really speak for them by saying that getting uncomfortable when getting misgendered is mental disorder territory

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let me tell you, it makes you feel sad for like an hour afterwards i hate it when people think i’m a man.

uneven wind
polar sandal
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not just for me

uneven wind
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how do you think people's feelings don't get hurt in the real world?

polar sandal
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why do you think people are asking for this feature in the first place?

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because it’s affected them too.

uneven wind
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God should add an update where it shows pronouns above your head in real life so people don't get their "feelings hurt"

polar sandal
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@covert moat i summon thee, trans icon to try to explain why this would be a good idea to add.

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i’m getting more braindead by the minute trying to converse here

uneven wind
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great, just ping people who are probably in the middle of something now

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people part of the lgbt community will support ANYTHING that has to do with pronouns for some reason

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if they were suggesting that you had to vomit your pronouns every day I'm sure lots of people will support that

polar sandal
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i’d support that that sounds cool as shit

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ready to vomit they/them every day

prisma turret
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imo i agree with ijustreturn in the fact that
people should be able to deal with minor problems like being misgendered without causing anything huge. in life, people aren't always perfect, and you just have to deal with that sometimes

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as long as we don't have pride flag and cheer badges at the same time on the name tag, i think pronouns on the name will be OK

polar sandal
real rock
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tbh- some people have body dysmorphia (me) so getting misgendered could trigger them (also me)

I swear no one clicks on my profile to see my pronouns. Even if “ijustreturn” and the other people SAY they will, doesn’t mean they ACTUALLY will.

And for the 17736268th time, as a trans male with a female voice, i get misgendered a lot.

I dont understand how it makes the nametag “cluttered” apart from these people are trolling or are mad that the nametags changed already.

It would really help a lot of people

polar sandal
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if someone’s doing it frequently you can get mad about that (trust me, i did once) but it happening once hits hard

polar sandal
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you can start to see a pattern after a while

real rock
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Yeah

prisma turret
real rock
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ah

chrome forge
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Y’all are both way too feisty to be giving opinions on this. You’re both on the side of “having pronouns is okay” the only disagreeance here is how much you each think someone’s pronouns being known matters. Both sides are valid, it can be nice for some people to make others more aware of their pronouns, but it can also be nice to not HAVE to see everyone’s pronouns so often. The only time pronouns have ever been useful to those who they aren’t referring to, is before people paid attention any more than just he/him, she/her, they/them. It is to help people learn a person’s sex without actually having to BE there themselves. In addition to these, neopronouns exist to help people identify their own gender. Moreso to make them feel comfortable than because it’s helpful to know what a person’s gender is. This whole argument boils down to how comfortable and not inconvenient can we allow people who are genderfluid or nonbinary or whatever else to be, without making those who aren’t, more uncomfortable and inconvenienced than they are.

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Everyone’s still figuring shit out, that is THE point of gender identity, to better understand yourself. And it’s hard for the information that could help that to be of any use when its meaning gets lost in a ton of bickering. Literally all that’s left to do once you know both sides accept the LGBT+, is figure out how best to make things fair for both sides.

prisma turret
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👌

prime raven
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are you a Skyrim npc

covert moat
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it'd be better than being misgendered all things considered

real rock
covert moat
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exactly

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i'm not sure why or how you can be so up in arms about a OPTIONAL QOL feature that wouldn't harm you whatsoever if you just turned it off

real rock
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Yeah

acoustic osprey
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I honestly am not sure what to think about on this /g

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I’m all for it, but at the same time— if they could find a way to have it LOOK ok, or have it to where it can be turned on and off (possibly on both sides?) then that would be nice

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Like the same thing as being able to turn off seeing nametags

real rock
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yeah

covert moat
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jussy made a edit of my mockup, i think this looks alright and not cluttered

real rock
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Yes

uneven wind
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dammit

prime raven
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owned

terse sierra
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i saw every single person ive seen whos openly homophobic or misgenders on purpose sounds like they're nine 💀

terse sierra
real rock
real rock
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Like split the circley thingy

covert moat
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split circle thingy would work

hexed monolith
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zoey so op in here

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nah but pronouns on the name tag would be cool, not sure if i'd use it cause the profile has em

polar sandal
hexed monolith
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iconic in this discord, in league its me ;)

polar sandal
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It also shows a flag icon to show who you’re partied with

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Yeah that shows what colour their party is, but a little a flag appears where the RR+ icon would be to help quickly indicate they’re in your party

chrome forge
near needle
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cool

chrome forge
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I think the whole pronouns-in-title thing would be okay if it was toggleable, but not in the way you’s have suggested. I’d wanna toggle being able to see them. There’s nothing wrong with getting someone’s gender wrong. Literally nothing about a person’s personality and behaviour is a surefire indicator of which gender they are so it should be expected that people get it wrong sometimes. I know it wouldn’t be intentional for alot of people but it’s really unhealthy in alot of cases that being misgendered is supposedly so deeply stressful or hurts so much. Guesswork is an incredibly important part of socialising. When i was younger there were several instances where people thought i was a girl because of my long hair but never took offence to it at all because i know those people weren’t TRYING to take a jab at me, it was a simple mistake. I know others might not take it so easily but when something offends someone unintentionally and doesn’t want to, it’s fixed by either one side being more mindful, or the other side being more resilient. I reckon the mindfulness starts becoming too unfair for it to be reasonable, when you have to learn the pronouns and sexuality of every single person you meet that you may or may not talk to.

near needle
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some people would disagree

chrome forge
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That’s where the problem lies.

near needle
chrome forge
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The LGBT+ is who it’s about

Doesn’t make it anyone’s fault in particular since as i’ve said before, everyone’s just figuring shit out

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but there comes a point where the amount of stuff those who aren’t suuuper knowledgable on it all have to remember can become stressful for them too.

velvet prawn
chrome forge
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sorryyyyy, i like typing 😆

prime raven
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tldr

chrome forge
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It’s important to find balance between doing as much for those who are nonbinary or genderfluid or whatever else, as we do for those who aren’t or aren’t knowledgable on it.

covert moat
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There’s nothing wrong with getting someone’s gender wrong
this can be rather subjective depending on who you are talking to

near needle
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yeah

covert moat
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gender dysphoria sucks. simply put

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some have it bad, some have it worse

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and some don't entirely

near needle
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That’s true. My problem with it is that i have balls memory when i have to remember lots of different things. I often forget everyone’s gender when i’m expected to remember lots of them, but have an ok time with it when i’m only expected to remember the pronouns of those that i talk to. I don’t mean to disregard the feelings of anyone that may have gender dysphoria but my brain literally works in the opposite way, having to remember more makes me remember significantly less. And i believe there are more people out there with bad memories like that, than people with gender dysphoria. We’ll definitely TRY to get it right, absolutely!! But it just can’t be helped when we don’t, and so if it’s going to happen anyways then it’s thoughtful to try and encourage an environment where people truly believe that it’s okay to be accidentally misgendered. It can’t be forced to work that way just as those who experience gender dysphoria can’t be forced to NOT have gender dysphoria, so it’s important to take lots of little steps towards that kind of environment.

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also i dunno how readable some of my stuff is, i’m running on late and very little sleep

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fucking God i did it again, beeeeeeg essay-length message 🥲

bold oak
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Jesus

chrome forge
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i knowwww

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😭

near needle
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there ya go

deep stone
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i understand the overall point of "accidents happen" but.. this concept is helpful against the highlighted bit

chrome forge
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But seeing it under everyone’s will make me forget, even if it’s there. When i talk to someone i don’t want to have to be reading their label all the time

deep stone
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Hence the proposed toggle

chrome forge
near needle
chrome forge
# deep stone Hence the proposed toggle

But everyone’s been suggesting a toggle that turns off your own one. What i was saying is i want one that toggles your ability to see this extra information.

near needle
deep stone
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just what i was about to say

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personal toggle in profile settings, and then visual settings has the overall toggle

near needle
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yeah

chrome forge
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ye, that’d be much better than just the personal toggle

deep stone
near needle
chrome forge
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sorry, i kinda got the idea in my head that it was either one or the other; both is absolutely better

near needle
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always

chrome forge
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Probably from reading about the more heated arguments that were deleted before

near needle
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yeah

deep stone
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The only arguments I'm super passionate about are calling out the blatant bigotry in this forum and the 'more pride things' rr-discussion forum

chrome forge
chrome forge
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They literally started on the same side, and things just got more and more separated as the fight raged on

near needle
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what's it called?

deep stone
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different movie

near needle
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oh

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but what was that one called?

near needle
deep stone
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you're thinking of 'emperor's new groove', that's 'the road to el dorado'

near needle
near needle
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I've never seen the second one

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the artstyles look very similar (to me)

chrome forge
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noooooo

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GIFs aren’t allowed 😭

near needle
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noooooooo

real rock
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im so dead

prime raven
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having pronouns in the nametag just gets rid of a massive headache

wise halo
real rock
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how do you not know what pronouns are

wise halo
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by unnecessary shit, I mean party color, room status, rr plus sign, cheer badges, etc

real rock
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b r u h

prime raven
wicked blade
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Even if you don’t they’re very self explanatory

wise halo
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They can get confusing for people

wicked blade
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Unless it’s like cxa zro or one of those

deep stone
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in what world is a basic part of the english language confusing

wicked blade
wise halo
wise halo
wicked blade
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Oh

near needle
wicked blade
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Yeah that makes sense

deep stone
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Neopronouns, yeah, but the basics (she/he/they) being confusing makes no sense

near needle
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true

wicked blade
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Yes

wise halo
deep stone
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and neopronoun users are often ready to kindly explain

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:)

covert moat
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google is also your friend :)

wicked blade
near needle
wicked blade
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And even if you don’t know what they are their username is still thereRRtroll

wise halo
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it would still be confusing for newer people :> also what if they’re shy and don’t wanna talk to random people

wicked blade
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Then they won’t need pronouns

wise halo
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my point being :3

wise halo
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the first one doesn’t apply and google doesn’t explain it as well as a person would

covert moat
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google literally gives you the best answer in under 5 seconds

wise halo
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this whole discussion is pointless rec room doesn’t care about their community anyways why are we still here

wicked blade
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Bcs controversy

wise halo
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ikr

covert moat
near needle
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XD

wise halo
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and my point is true anyways

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rr doesn’t give 2 shits about us

covert moat
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why did you start backtracking tho

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like. look at how fast you were to change the point

wise halo
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because this whole discussion IS useless and I lose brain cells every time I post

covert moat
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that's your fault then.

wise halo
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

prime raven
wise halo
covert moat
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what about the discussion is pointless

wise halo
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The fact that rec room isn’t gonna do anything the community asks for

prime raven
wicked blade
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Ngl, I’ve never met someone who Unironically had neo pronouns selected

wise halo
near needle
wise halo
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and I know many people on rr that use it too

prime raven
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k

wise halo
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im not gonna bother listing them but you get the point

snow echo
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To be honest people that say that Rec Room doesn't care about the community, probably never check up on Rec Room's posts or keynotes, if they didn't care we wouldn't be getting Rec Room Studio's

wise halo
wicked blade
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Yeah I say they don’t care as a joke

real rock
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very cluttered

near needle
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how in the world is that cluttered?

real rock
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idk the whole disucsion pointless ew

wicked blade
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The pride flag in there is dumb imo

real rock
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i swear i cause drama everywhere i go

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gay drama

near needle
wicked blade
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I don’t

real rock
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your opinion

wicked blade
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Good

balmy girder
snow echo
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Also Rec Room does update their bugs but they also make more in the meantime

wary trail
velvet prawn
chrome forge
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yooo where is that from?

prisma turret
stray widget
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Sucks that this is a topic people even argue about

near needle
near needle
prime raven
near needle
stray widget
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Was $40

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The keytars were $30

prime raven
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they really need to stop

near needle
stray widget
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The community keeps buying so rec room doesn’t need to care

real rock
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💀

wise halo
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random skull emoji

chrome forge
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Remember when they reminded 5 whole 3-piece sets from the store that weren’t limited items just so they could put it into a single bundle??

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And not you can’t get them at all. I understand they need money to please their investors but that one was too far for me

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Most people only want the gloves, then they made it that to get ANY of the pieces, you needed to buy ALL of the pieces

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and now they’re all gone

real rock
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What

wicked blade
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Yeah they fr were like “they were always limited time”🤓

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It was only in the store for like several months

chrome forge
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hang on i have something for this

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Not one of the places it was announced or even featured said or implied it was supposed to be limited time. Plus they don’t bring back limited items for a bundle THAT soon after they left the store.

main trout
wise halo
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poor guy just wants the gloves b_pensivewassup

chrome forge
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No idea, i just love the skit. I mean, i bought every item in the set purely out of nostalgia but this was before it was turned into a bundle. I know RR needs money to please their investors, but removing 15 items from the store at once that were meant to be permanent items to make it a bundle where you’re forced to buy all of it or none is pretty bad in my eyes. I also have mixed feelings about the amulet. The amulet itself is fine even if it apparently provides advantages to people and costs so much, but the fact that it was made limited time is what gets me. I seriously hope RR isn’t trying to condition us into “you should probably buy it, just in case”

real rock
gentle cloak
wise halo
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🔥

real rock
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Dead thread

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💀

wise halo
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dead server

deep stone
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#302189097160671234 more active but worse than here