Allow lua coding!

[west roost]

NO!

@upbeat halo help, someone asking now for coding instead of circuits

[thin zodiac]

lua coding is a good idea on paper until you realise that it would ruin the thing that made rec room creation unique

rec room has its own coding language already, lua would just be unnecessary as cool as it’d be.

they’d have to make a separate desktop app that you make rooms in for that to work, similar to roblox studio

[upbeat halo]

I saw this and put an x on it.

Bad idea in many ways

[inner summit]

But way less accessible

[young moon]

Maybe LUA block code 🤷‍♂️, it looks like CV2 but it’s just LUA script

[thin zodiac]

it'd confuse everything tbh

Circuits is good enough

[young moon]

CV3?

[young moon]

They are but I do agree with OP we should add LUA but instead of programming it, it will be block code just like CV2

[thin zodiac]

it'd be an unnecessary addition

circuits is made in unity

[young moon]

Well I don’t think it should be rolled out immediately

[young moon]

Ya CV2 is based off C#

[thin zodiac]

circuits is literally simplified unity programming, LUA isn't needed.

also Unity doesn't even support LUA that well, it'd break things.

[young moon]

Maybe add features from LUA to cv2

[thin zodiac]

we don't need scripting in rec room we already have circuits

[young moon]

That’s entirely possible

[young moon]

No im not saying that

[thin zodiac]

they don't need to add features that barely anyone will use since you can do it with 10x more efficiently with circuits

[young moon]

True

I think it would still be cool to have LUA as but in a CV2 form

[thin zodiac]

Lua coding would be an unnecessary addition that would make room creation more difficult than it already is + the bugs that it'd bring

lua can't communicate with unity that well

[young moon]

No im not saying make CV2 out of LUA

Sorry let rephrase that

Im not implying we should add LUA

I think we should make a CV2 based LUA

[upbeat halo]

well that'd be pretty useless then. unity doesn't use that type of code anyway

[cosmic sluice]

@upbeat halo @thin zodiac @west roost @young moon

When people suggest they change the coding in recroom to be highly advanced, everybody thinks the idea is insane and they all hate it.

When recroom announces a feature saying they will change the modelling in recroom to be highly advanced, everybody loves it.

How come?

Replacing the maker pen with blender is the equivalent to replacing circuits with lua.

[upbeat halo]

Lua is a lot more unnecessary. Most things you can do with Lua are easier with Circuits.
Importing models is something people have really wanted for a long time, and a lot of new opportunities will be here.

[cosmic sluice]

Only people with powerful computers and high experience with blender or other 3D modeling programs will be able to use that feature

and also lua is simpler, more powerful, and faster than recroom circuits (only if you know it)

You can say the exact same for modelling

[upbeat halo]

Nah I have this sucky little laptop that needs two restarts to run, it runs blender and unity perfectly well despite terrible reviews

It's a Lenovo Yoga

[upbeat halo]

Circuits are gonna be mad fast once we get compiler

[cosmic sluice]

cool, but my laptop doesn't have enough storage to even download unity so I'm gonna be stuck with the maker pen while all the popular people just model away in blender

[upbeat halo]

...what the $&!? do you have a raspberry pi or something

[cosmic sluice]

and plus I spent literal years perfecting my modeling skills, and just as I'm getting the hang of it, it's all gonna be completely pitiful once recroom studio releases

[upbeat halo]

So the same thing wouldn't happen with lua releasing?

[cosmic sluice]

no I just have a basic laptop like most people have because I'm not an extreme gamer

[cosmic sluice]

the same thing would happen

but you're completely fine with the models

because you're job isn't modelling so you don't have to worry about it

[upbeat halo]

do you have hundreds of videos on your computer???? My laptop has lots of random files, a regular amount of memory, but I can still fit four versions of unity

[upbeat halo]

nah i model too, i'm feeling so-so about this too but I think it's a change for the better

[cosmic sluice]

I have 105 GB of storage and I delete every file I have and clean the storage regularly

But that doesn't matter, the point is that many people don't have access to unity or don't have the time or experience

[upbeat halo]

you have to let go of maker pen someday

[cosmic sluice]

so you're telling me I should just "man up" and completely throw away my passion and the thing I've been practicing for countless months and years

[upbeat halo]

You can still model with the maker pen, maker pen and rr studio are supposed to be both used to make maps. You can get a friend to add in hay.obj while you work on a door or something

[cosmic sluice]

any new player that joins recroom after recroom studio releases will look at my models and be like "these are garbage"

when I spent weeks of hard work on them

[junior osprey]

rec room has the best in game creation tools, why would you want to replace them with something so ordinary and boring?

[cosmic sluice]

meanwhile all those PC users can make something better in the click of a button

[upbeat halo]

I know, I'm not feeling very good about the old rooms part. either, so I can't really argue there

[upbeat halo]

modeling is way harder than maker pen imo

[junior osprey]

it is

[upbeat halo]

lots of people will keep on using maker pen

[cosmic sluice]

yeah but people who are very good at it would be pleased to use blender

also you can just download free models online

[upbeat halo]

It'll be kinda cool to basically give newbies a chance to build up their skills again from the beginning with the rest of the rr community, so more people have a chance to make their maps stand out and the 2016 players have to deal with getting subscribers like the rest of us

[cosmic sluice]

Here is my topic about it: https://discord.com/channels/193073071802941451/1023244606911021197
(My keyboard is broken so it's hard for me to type here)

[upbeat halo]

You've made all those arguments in this conversation already, but you didn't respond to my latest one

[cosmic sluice]

I don't understand what that means

[west roost]

1 All the fun in the circuits, because you don't have to organize code lines, just visual scripting.

2 People want to build so detailed builds as far can

[junior osprey]

adding lua coding just raises the barrier to entry, there would be even less people wanting to learn how to use the maker pen

[cosmic sluice]

1. Same thing for modeling. It's so fun to get a hands-on in-game VR building experience, and it all gets thrown away with generic 3d modelling

2. It seems a little too late to add drastic changes now, because recroom modelling is known for the way it is now