#Rec Room on the steam deck (aka proton support)
1493 messages · Page 2 of 2 (latest)
: (
rip D:
I have the same "wrong dll" error on proton, let me know if I can help with logs or anything somewhere
I believe the issue is with the latest version of Themida that we use along with the specific settings we use. I will look into this more later.
ty
I Have the same Wrong DLL problem on my deck OLED.
im still waiting
Rec Room is on break right now.
Also don't be an ass, especially about something they don't have to do.
Supremium literally is the only staff member making sure Rec Room works on Linux since rec room doesn’t officially support Linux, give him time, let him cook, Rec Room doesn’t ship any updates over the holidays
I'm worried Referee will not allow Linux
My hope is that it'll be better than eac for Linux
Hopefully
Tbh it probably will be able to support Linux and macOS , main reason why we don’t have Linux or macOS support is due to Rec Room having to lift a finger to add support for those platforms with EAC, with referee that support can be baked in much more easily/not require platform specific features
does this not work anymore?
hmmm, lets see
nowadays the files are shipped with the updates, but I guess it broke again recently anyway
Rec Room unfortunately doesn't run on my Steam Deck either anymore, with the same error as anyone else in here. Hopefully support will be back soon enough!
Also the error I get when loading Rec Room on the Steam deck is "An Error has occurred while loading imports. Wrong DLL present"
Was there a fix this update?
Nope.
Same story as before...
Fresh install, cachyos-proton
my steam deck put a white screen whit a error message why ?
same
Reports on ProtonDB have been consistently reporting Themida breaking the game for everyone, for the past month
Only Rec Room can help here...
Why devs are so lazy to Export rec room into Linux Build?? its not that hard, and just updating EAC with Linux support.
They don't care about Linux (but will keep up a Pico build that probably would draw in less players)
Proton support only exists because of one s-tier, passionate dev at Rec Room.
I appreciate rec room for keeping the Pico Build up solely for me and fen
Iirc they ditched pico for the Quest 3 lol
I don't believe they have?
Or well, not sure what you mean by that. It is still a supported device
No rec room still supports pico, fen went to quest 3 last I heard lol
oh lmao
good for him, don't agree with him... ever.... but yeah, the experience is better on Quest 3
yeah I’m sure the quest 3 is a lot better, the pico 4 is nice for what use it for tho
the pico library is terrible, but i mostly stream to it when i use it
I have a pico neo 3 pro that "supports" rec room on the pico store LOL
but when I download it, it downloads a version from sometime in 2023 so it obv doesn't let me in lol
I have the same problem
You can't, nobody running Linux can
why
We have to wait and pray for a RR developer to have mercy on us
They silently introduced a "Themida" anticheat software
Breaking all support we had
From a hundred games in my Steam library, many AAA titles, Rec Room is the ONLY game that refuses to launch 😂
fr
And I'm not dual-booting Windows for one game
I got quest 2
fr

thanks for the info
Ur welcome 🫡
Here, Supremium is the only developer who cares about us
We just have to wait for his blessing
do we know how long it will take
no
I want to play sooooooo bad
🫡
Oh so THAT'S what happened... I was wondering what the hell happened.
When Rec Room developers remove/fix Themida
I guess the only way to play rec room is now to bring out my dusty nintendo switch :D
Whats Themida
ok
TL:DR - anti-tamper software to prevent cheaters from reverse engineering the game files
interesting
It can also be found in other games, like Helldivers 2
cool
But it works there, unlike in Rec Room
same
The originality is never been buggy or laggy in any way
im talking about 2016/2017 rec room
it will take 385 days to get respond like in https://discord.com/channels/193073071802941451/1192216802181255298
why would lie? its rec room
Well then, that's their choice when they take action
If they don't want Steam Deck and other Linux players playing their game - they won't have our support
Theif prority to make a copy of roblox instead of making the RRO's that are Campus not Copy of games like DBD
If the new anti-cheat (referee) will be out will the easy anti-cheat be deleted? if yes this would unlock many platforms like linux
Currently the compatablity problem with Linux isn't EAC. We are also using an anti-tamper solution called Themida that would need some issues to be addressed for Proton compatibility. We currently don't have any plans to fix this at the moment, but hopefully later on we'll be able to. For the record, Themida is supposed to work under Proton, but the latest version has some issues.
okay
Is their any chance that rec room will be deck verified sometime this year like RR changing its anti cheat to an alternative or in house solution
hopefully, The Anti-tamper doesn't allow to work on linux and anti-cheat kinda doesn't allow it run rec room on steam deck rn. Removing EAC and adding Referee will be next step ahead to make rec room Linux compatible 
Just wanted to put my voice out there and also request an effort to fix this
Great to hear an update on the situation, unfortunate that there are no plans to fix the situation... 
3 months, no Rec Room
If you don't want Linux players, okay
We'll take our business elsewhere
All it takes is fixing Themida to work with Proton...

well at least there is minecraft and roblox
i use arch btw
What the proton
What the Wine?
What is the Exe?
What the raw x86 ASM?
As far as we know
Still though even if they fix themida, and if some some other issue comes up, at least we can say they tried
fuck themida
fuck themida
Most likely the new "Referee" or whatever they call it anticheat they've been preparing will also be a kernel solution
they could share whether it'd be basically spyware or not
Referee is a combination of client side protections and detections and soon server detections. Yes, we may eventually have to use a kernel driver for stopping kernel level cheats.
Proton support is still something we want. It's just not something we want to do right now. I would rather come back to this when we're in a better position to do so. We have other important work to prioritize.
And proper Proton support would mean some Linux specific code too so that we're not just opening a new hole for hackers.
Then why won't referee won't detect some prefab spawns from backpacks? its easy to detect right? Like Hackers use it to spawn bosses etc. Why won't referee won't check the prefab when we spawn for ex. camera? its really easy fix to do, just don't allow anyone/anything to change it
Our spawning logic isn't set up for validation yet with our current network implementation. There are also tons of other issues besides spawning that we need to fix with server validation too. We've been doing a big factor of our network code for some time, and that will make it so we can get to a point where it is possible to validate every spawn against what permissions a player has.
And sure, we could go down the hole of making tons of small fixes to make it so some specific cheat is mitigated, but more wholistic changes to stop these hacks at a base level is much better in the long-term.
Apologies for my previous hostility, this is actually some very helpful information. Genuinely, thank you.
same on my laptop atleast wait why am i saying this and why did i come out of nowhere
just hire a one guy that can do this bruh
please, i want to play rec room on steam deck, everyone wants to play rec room on steam deck, but u'all say "no,we don't want linux players"
its probably not that easy. if it was supremium would have it up and running by now
if i would use android emulator and play rr there it would work?
No, as you'd have to install it from the Google Play store.
i use a emulator with google play
i hate desktop mode it downloads 50kbit per second even tho i have 10MB/s
ik, i will just map screen taps
Do you know, have they're been any updates or fixes for Themida?
Oh shoot sorry probably should've disabled the reply ping, my bad
I hate whotever made themdia, its complete garbage of software. Devs just favor more spyware 11 than linux.
Themida did an update in March, so we can see if anything has changed here. We routinely update it.
Good to know, thanks! 👍
Real quick, Supremium, just as a quick well-being check: are people being too rude about this? Like, you're not taking any verbal abuse from this topic, right? Asking because you pretty much are the hand that feeds us and I'd like to minimize our biting
just in general, any hostility will always push back features we want. if we always claim devs are lazy, it gives them less of an incentive to work on the features we care about. so please be patient and nice.
Any updates?
it literally does, tho
But it doesn't. Go test it
I've used controllers on my phone before
literally just connect to Bluetooth
and boom
done
Iphone has controller support, but Iphone isn't Android.
and I'm on Android
Go connect a controller. It doesn't work
look it up, Android has supported controllers longer than Apple
I'm using one right now
No changes with just updating it, unfortunately.
Wait a sec.
I just had an idea.
@royal wasp sorry to ping you for this, but something I noticed when modding Payday 2 on Linux, is that I had to set in the launch options to load the dll.
Themida is complaining about a "wrong dll present".
Would you happen to know what the dll is in question?
For further context, for Payday 2 it'sWINEDLLOVERRIDES="wsock32=n,b" %command%
is there any i mean any way to play the game without dual booting??
Fully getting rid of Linux and getting Windows instead
SteamOS is better
Well that and dual booting are the only options
but dual booting on SD card can wear out card faster
im trying to dual boot but it doesn't detect my SD card
I don't think it is a DLL being missing. I believe the error is related to Referee initialization not playing nice with Themida.
Wine/Proton does have verbose logging, so you can try sniffing out clues there. I didn't find anything in my brief exploration in Linux.
I am struggling for 3 hours to install the windows on steam deck (im dying inside)
Ooh, that could help immensely.
Thank you greatly!
I'll be busy for the next few days for other reasons, so I won't be doing much of anything on that front until, I'd guess the 10th?
But once I do get to working on that, I'll try figuring stuff out. Thanks for the clue, cheers!
tell us if you find a solution plz
I'll probably let Supremium know first to mske sure I'm not accidentally outright bypassing the anti-cheat somehow, but after I get approval I'll absolutely be more than happy to share my findings.
man fuck them they don't even respect there own employ
If you don't like the game why are you even in the discord
cus i wen to
also cus used to like the game
Alright, well, I still have some respect for the devs, even if I believe their priorities are... highly questionable.
i moved to vr chat
It's not a good look for me if I do something that blatantly hurts them, even if I help a small part of the community for a month until it gets patched.
as i know servers are running on linux, they don't even respect own servers
Servers don't need tamper protection
LIke i mean, tamper protection is completly useless cause there is depots, so yea
yea
Actually nevermind, don't answer that
I feel like this line of questioning will probably enter rule violation territory
Should've been themida 😔
fr
It was for easy anti-cheat which doesn't exist no more
It doesn't matter, the DLL issue is due to Themida anti-tamper, not anticheat
Oops
Hrrrng I'm going to be very busy in the coming days too
RecRoom back to the microsd card dualboot to windows on the steamdeck era 💔
maybe if I resume this again...
Real
IT WORKS
Linux rec room works now?
Are we so back ?
proton on bazzite, yep it works
Wait does it?
Now connect a vr headset to it
hell nah
it don't support vr
and i am typing this in pcvr
not worth
Great how this happened right after I just completely lost interest in the game
yup
ikr
NEW Update Change logs :
TLDR
- We removed support for proton ʷᵉ ʰᵃᵗᵉ ˡᶦⁿᵘˣ ᵖˡᵃʸᵉʳˢ
did they break it again? havent checked
works fine
I hope they wont break the Linux again cause steam is planning to verify the rec room again
so it work cool
Does it still work?
Yes
Nice
Just proton works
since the recent update, i can't launch rec room
same here
Same
Great I literally just re installed RR last night so I could finally have it on steam deck again lol.
So is RR not running under Proton again?
well kinda yes, but new unity version or referee completely broke launching it, but still we need Native Linux build
Is there a way to open it?
sadly no
i used another thing than proton
what thing?
for linux check it out
ye
lets see
Alrighty
u like it
im trying to install it on steam deck
winetrick is interesting
do i need easy anti cheat
it does on pc
if u have windows
it will show easy anti cheat with a bear
so i need it
not anymore
they got rid of eac months ago
and replaced it with their own anticheat, referee
Doesn't Lutris literally use Proton tho
I just wanna play rr vro
For some reason RR stopped working using proton. Worked a while a ago like a charm. Now it crashes after the first small RR screen.
They broke this. But TBH, we need LINUX build that is not proton https://discord.com/channels/193073071802941451/1425369672303378482
had an update today. fixes proton support!!!
You liar, nothing is fixed.
use proton ge
Which version I may ask?
Still doesn't work, you lying
You when lie
thats just a you problem bro
but id recommend trying to update to proton ge 10-20
it shouldnt make any difference that im using flatpak versions btw, i just use them since they solve a memory leak problem with steam
from what i can tell, the crash is in unity
so proton would need to be fixed
my guess is proton-ge has patches for newer versions of unity
i tried, and it works buutt, many things don't work, like RRS Audio's, Rec center having black screen
and sounds in general
either a config issue or unity is doing new stuff with audio
maybe, but on PC its fine
probably, lemme check
or maybe they have an older version
1.4.9 is the latest on aur
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/pipewire/
ah yea, 0.3.62 is from old post
thank you for saying that
I am still waiting for native Linux support
they just cut platforms i don't expect new platforms in the future
its just building the game but for linux
way more complicated than that
QA, support, anti-cheat port, rendering changes
valve's deadlock doesn't have a linux build
because it works completely fine on linux through proton
aww
it's just way easier to support proton
it's one build
accomplishes the same thing
same steam apis
if you're hell-bent on a Linux build, there's three already
ah makes sense, is it possible to add gyro and other QoL features for steam deck?
oculus, pico, and play store
yes
gyro is a thing
👀
technically steam deck is a controller but with gyro and backplates, so it can be easy to make, and valve could verify Rec room
unity provides generalized apis for motion
i didn't knew wow
the input system is pretty nice
of steam deck or system in developement or whatever it is called
Yeah, i love it
i am making the rec room Steam deck input system that works really good for everything basically
and its fluid, i really like it
where is the download for the linux version of rec room or the file i need
There is no Linux version, but you can use newest proton GE
ok
is there still support btw?
like with proton ge
works on proton GE, but not the valve one yet
if you want to get proton GE, go to store in linux and find "proton up" and you will find it
already have it 👍
good
They broke it,
I have been in crippling critical depression ever since the update
I'm in crippling debt after betting everything on eminem
So is rec room on steam deck dead or
someone fixed it on protonGE
Oh alr
bump
ProtonGE on the Steam Deck is broken again. You will get what I have named "The orange box of linuxphobia"
what version?
i had no problems earlier even when playing vr, but tbf im also not on a steam deck but it shouldnt matter that much
Both 28 & 27
assuming support will happen. As wqeare now soon going to have the steam frame which runs on ARM/Proton
although i think the steam frame can run x64 games
without dev input
anyways BUMP
I don't think it's happening anytime soon, just use Proton.
But proton isn't working
Bump
Bump
use cachyos's proton, it works
Sucks
i guess the eac_proton file is outdated and patched so we Linux users cant play rec room anymore D:
Rec Room works fine for me with ProtonGE
i don't think you would need that anymore since rec room uses a different anti cheat now
proton cachyos works
alr
Yo can smone pass me the easyanticheat file? the one i got doesnt work idk why
Rec room doesn’t use easy anti cheat
Wdym im pretty sure it does, anyways even if it doesnt use easy anticheat it still doesnt work to me :/
Yeah didnt it use easyanticheat?
Have yall not heard the news
Holy shit referee is over a year old
But basically we’ve had a different anti cheat for over a year
Which is the one rec room made
If you check the game files you can see that
Yeah its a while i dont play it and i wanted to check the game
Is it possible to play on linux still?
I tried installing it and play it with proton tho it wont work, thats why i wanted to ask why
I’m not really sure on the subject so idk sorry
Its ok ill wait if someone else knows, thanks anyways
try using proton ge or proton experimental. it is currently possible to play on linux
Im already using proton experimental, ill try proton ge ig
I dont see proton ge, maybe you meant hotfix?
Im on fedora Asahi Linux if it could help
Thanks, tho ill try it tmrw cuz its kinda late here
You think itll work?
all good. also your problems may stem from the fact you have an ARM based computer, which isnt widely supported for gaming
Yeah ik, tho maybe that proton version you sent might work idk
Is it supported to Arm?
well its a fork of proton with improvements, so yeah it should work for arm
dunno if itll fix ur issues with rr tho
nvm i got an error saying that unityplayer.dll failed to launch
without the proton thing but i might try it
Hi again, i tried playing RecRoom with proton ge 10.32, still wont work
Plus can i run RRStudio too?
Well yeah it’s unity
I ran RRS on a Mac once
Oh aight cool tho still aint working for me
Its ok dw
last time I played rec room on linux, cachyos proton worked
i can confirm the game launches with proton-ge, didnt get past the login screen (on like a fedora linux distro :3)
(okie it works fully, heres me and a penguin i made :3) https://rec.net/image/804364511

already been confirmed months ago by me and others lol
Also what about just installing windows on steam deck? There's drivers
lol (just say it wasnt updated in apperently a few days
sorry
nah all good
its been done... but why would you do that? windows is literally inferior
You want rec room? There's the answer
especially for handhelds and portable devices, linux is far lighter on system resources meaning lower end portable devices run a lot better and have far better battery life
I know windows sucks ass
rr works just fine on linux tho, better than windows too. it just has a tendency to break because they dont ensure its compatibility
steam doesnt have support for windows 8, wtf are you even getting at 😭
i also never said you had to use linux, im disproving your claim that windows has to be used for rr
Oh. Yea windows kinda sucks. I have to agree with you but still no proton support makes most people just install windows 10 or something
How
