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Ikr đ
you have 7 pokemon
fixed
what does treads provide you that tusk wouldn't
a steel type and a way to beat Pech
well
shadow ball pech at least
Raging Bolt too
Helps against Kyurem
Crown
https://pokepast.es/04b1221eaa59ba20 <- any advice?
Team looks fairly standard. Probably have to opt for Twave spam on both glowking & Zapdos though cuz the team is kinda slow
Outside of gambit priority
If youâre not running fire fang then run Tera ghost SD chomp
https://pokepast.es/32fa8ef9a3366912 rilaboom heatran balance
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Try sd Rilla over band
Otherwise looks good
Life orb?
Yes
Also make heatran rocks so you can run 3 attacks on tusk
over taunt or protect
protect
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The sets youâre running here are not optimal. If youâre running hex Ghold you run defensive Twave gold hex without Twave is just wildly inconsistent and you donât even have enough status spreaders to be running solo hex.
Primarina set is super wack, youâre trying to make it a physical wall but itâs terrible at that job.
So to fix your team:
-Pecharunt is fine.
-Zama is fine.
-Make gholdengo scarf Twave.
-make Lando max speed.
-drop primarina for Hamurott. Make this double ghost Hstack:
-Hatt is pretty flexible here. Can try CM or pain split
with the lando , the set is fine or do i need to tune it
Make it max speed max hp
and the iv's for the Ghol
Can also try max speed max attack if youâre running earthquake over earth power
alright ill try both
Ghold is just standard scarf set with Twave trick & stab moves
this is what im seeing for the scarf set iv's
Yea thatâs fine
alright
Hisui samurott make it Assault vest
and regular vest set for the samu?
alr
Yes
Yea looks fine
Make Ghold Tera ghost though
bet
wait what is tera ghost for on ghold again? is there a calc I'm forgetting or it's just for stronger neutrals
I usually go water myself out of comfort zone, I mean not on scarf on scarf I'm usually steel I think?
Tera ghost is usually just for stronger shadow balls
Against neutral opponents yea
so stronger neutrals, okay.
gotcha, I prefer make it rain stronger for a couple of reasons but yeah alright.
Tera steel make it rain is usually only used for metal coat variants
oh, interesting. I mostly play on national dex so
it's my weird substitution for steelium z when I play usually
noted
that team is never beating stall
he can probably swap a couple things for something else and keep the identity of the team intact
maybe like swords dance samurott or something
av samu is kinda wacky here imo
yeah,I also weirdly rly like NP ghold scarf lando here
just opinions though
since scarf ghold I prefer on other teams is all
opinions chat?
Okay so this isnât entirely true
Although I didnât peep he was psyshock over psychic noise on hatt
@tepid hazel probably have to change that too^
But yea Hamurott hazard stack is beating stall most of the time
change what
psyshock to psynoise
Make hatterene psychic noise over psyshock
why ping me I'm so confused đ
what did I do lol
lol @blissful basin
Iâm just telling you to change one thing đ
Wait
Lol
you pinged the wrong person
Youâre the wrong person
kk
One more thing change hatt to psychic noise over psyshock
not gonna lie I wanna test the changes I'd say I'd recommend
just to see if the changes I like are even good Lol
I did just blabber without much thought, just mostly instinctive
/intuitive
huh I just realized, no hazard removal
maybe that why I liked scarf landorus
there is hatte at least
Okay so like on your opinions about the change now Iâm actually paying attention to it.
I donât really get how AV hamu is tacky here. Pretty standard on structures like these.
Although trial and error exit, team is fine enough where it can be run & tested for a good stretch of games.
Although like I can see where NP on one of the ghost can come to play. Maybe rocks scarf Lando is fine here so Hatt can be helmet.
I see đ€, maybe I think too much like a national dex player. got that... I am very generally aware of the metagame though I think.
Thereâs like hatt. But team isnât that hazard weak in general so itâs not the end of the world.
Maybe hamu stack is a rough MU but thatâs about it
nah I think outplays is he really plausible, shouldn't be 100-0 at least so it ain't bad lol
hamu mirror would be interesting tho
also I said "av looks whack on hamu" since doesn't hamu usually want another special wall alongside it
or am I trippin
hamu can just check things in my experience
not answer them
at least just a mixed wall
do u still generally just... play hamu teams like this offensively but it just blankets special threats?
Basically yea
ohhh I see.
good to know, just making sure i have my facts right.
more of a natdex player so I like my confirmation with these things
like stated previously
also I generally prefer black glasses on it
god do I love double black glasses teams
ish fun
am I high or I should remove zama or pecha, probably pecha on the team I'm going for @nocturne sable
I feel like with no av on hamu I'd hate special threats
wait let me show u what I've come up with first
idea is probably something like that?
whatcha think
so basically it's just a gambit team now đ
to hit ghosts that are immune to body press
I'm starting to realize tera ghost exists... uh
yeah lemme change that
hm maybe I'd prefer encore samu here...
you could move stone edge to lando if you still want it somewhere
get edgequake coverage
not rly just play like a national dex player
and that's what we usually do when u have dark types, normally with pursuit.
u jus kindaaaaaaaa remove crunch for edge usually
no pursuit to worry about here
yyyyep
ye I think I'll test with boots hamu
seems fun, for the gambita and the zama
If anything thats closer to offense since there are offensive teams with hatterene or alomomola as defensive mons that help give the team offensive momentum.
thinking about building with this core. Thoughts on where to take it?
Take it to ou duh

đ"SD chomp good" I've never made it work so good luck đ«
I genuinely hate that set if it ain't national dex
what are those speed EVs for?
Gambit pairs well with a lot of mons, I'd recommend something like Zamazenta, and if you're fine with changing Chomp to like stealth rock then Alomomola works. Chomp, Zamazenta, Alomomola, Corviknight, Kingambit, insert 6th mon seems like a good start.
on both
Unfortunately zama without crunch isnât really viable since youâre just going to get walled by gholdengo and pecharunt.
Maybe make Lando stone edge here to actually hit moltres.
Maybe add glimm here over Hatt since your tspike mu is kinda rough here. If youâre adding glim here I would make it red card to phase out other mons.
Boots hamu could be fine here, make gambit HP invested.
Make zama standard iron defense body press set with crunch & roar.
sounds good. thanks. not gonna lie I think I just also lost to a zama I don't remember I kinda testing another team rn lol
but uh yeah thanks
My thing with SD chomp is that if youâre running Tera ghost, run stone edge so you can actually 0hko moltres. Tera fire if youâre running fire fang. You can also run Tera blast electric which can do the same thing basically while also beating corviknight.
Non max speed low kick gambit is generally bad since the point of running low kick gambit is to outspeed other Kingambits and kill them with low kick.
For the rest of the team you just make this to an offense team. Glimmora, zamazenta, could add one one the ogers and maybe an offensive Zapdos as one of the last mons.
also ehem ehem SD chomp unfortunately trash in svou imo
like srsly
what does it achieve exactly?
I am honestly curious
it feels like it gets shut down so easily.
am I high or just my experience running it
SD chomp faces a lot of competition but itâs usable
https://pokepast.es/eaabae08940ed1dd
@limber marlin something like this
Hey guys I tried to build a team around the Hoopa band/ Future Sight Glowking core but I do struggle vs some hyper offense team/set up sweeper team and stack hazards as well. Any suggestion to improve the team?
https://pokepast.es/75279308b9e1bc21
late response but it outspeeds kyurem
its like dnite/dd kyu but it muscles through pecharunt, ignores multiscale thx to scale shot, and forces chip onto Zama/Tusk
Structure seems standard. I would probably make mola AV here and glowking physdef to deal with woger better. Might want shuca berry here since your tusk MU seems rough
I think you replace zama here with cinderace
Thanks! Cinderace would be nice. But how should I deal with Ogerpon-W, dragonite ddance, Kingambit?? (Who is woger?)
Good point for Great Tusk, but normally Enamorus can kill it or Zamazenta can easily wall it
woger is ogerpon wellspring
Physical defensive slowking can 1v1 woger. Cinderace can outspeed and click U-turn on woger
glowking not slowking
Yea mb
Also you have tusk to check kingambit @merry meteor. maybe here you can make it rocky helmet since youâre adding ace as additional hazard control
Dnite is a case where you just have to use Tera to have it not go out of control
I mean you can literally pivot into dnite with enamorus
I think tera normal dnite kills ena at +1?
Thanks a lot both for explications!!! I'll try to modify the team!!!
Oop yea Espeed at +1 kills.
But like I said if dnite gets out of control Tera tusk can bail you out
Okay so you probably need ice fang on zama here to help break Gliscor
felt silly so i built this psyspam :P https://pokepast.es/fbd384d42f9986a7
felt like it could cheese through a lot of common bad matchups
why is zama tera stellar
Ogerpon and zama here are pretty random
Stellar zama is a thing
without blast?
Why would you run Tera blast zama
ogerpon was meant to be a lead and threaten dmg on stuff like lu idk
The point of stellar is that Zamas coverage is so good that you use Tera stellar to power them up and pick up KOs
Well you already have 2 potential lead Pokemon in indeedee & iron treads so I donât get why you need that oger lead
ah fair
Much rather psychic seed hawlucha here, maybe eject hatt can also work
does lucha prefer coverage for ghold or encore/taunt
Encore
But gholdengo isnât affected by taunt or encore regardless
Probably you run Tera blast ground to bypass Ghold
i wanted polteageist to be the tera hog ngl
Hmm fair enough. So just chip Ghold down enough for lucha to clean then
is throatchop/fpunch a real move for lucha
Idk about throat chop, but fire punch Tera fire could be a thing to play around burn and hit Ghold
But like thereâs also something about that. Not every matchup is going to be favourable for teapot even if you want it to hog Tera
So you look at other possible wincons like hoopa-U and hawlucha incase the match isnât favourable for teapot
ah fair
Anyone can give me a good lulanateam with nothing but ghost types
lunala is ubers :P
Not an Ubers guy just generally if you want stuff like this maybe go to Monotype channels and stuff because thatâs the tier where you use teams full of Pokemon with the same type. If youâre asking it for standard Ubers though they probably wonât go with arbitrary rules like that.
https://pokepast.es/f4b486db79b7e0cd is this good?
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lmao what
yeaa
it's weak to gambit
zama over pult is fine
https://pokepast.es/eca2474b3c701ec1
Thoughts on this core? How do I go about this?
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what set
chesto
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you need more removal than corv
id just ace > meow here you dont really need knock that badly and its still useable speed control
so many fat mons + lu it shouldnt be an issue to deal with like booster mons
what set?
Probably regular bulky ace ye
Can also try nasty plot pecha as another wincon+brave bird>body press on corviknight for Woger
not like full atk or hp?
oh sry just saw it
without body press I feel like I would be weak to gambit I've been against a lot of tera fire ones
I understand gambit MU worries but like, if you force Tera fire you just go to your own ting Lu
Synergy of this team feels off. Donât really get what this team is trying to be
i just put random things together
but i wanna keep the alo, gliscor, clef and ghol
Oh thatâs definitely workable
https://pokepast.es/07f08418dd50a10e maybe something like this
I decided on trying to form a Tinkaton + Chomp BO, due to how with Garchomp, I noticed struggles with Kyurem and Weavile
Tinkaton can actually help beat both though, and sets up hazards in the face of anything. Iâm not sure whether to do mold breaker or pickpocket, for Weavile or for Hatt
I found that this core as well is really solid in Chomp + Sp def Tres + Pecharunt
And I wanted speed control in Za, but noticed I didnât have a water resist
So I just added an SD Woger to help vs stall and have a water immunity
Also piss off Alo
lmk if utility Woger is better tho
Keep mold breaker imo your hatt MU without it looks pretty annoying
Ice fang>>heavy slam on zama to hit Gliscor
Can also do like spikes horn leech knock off ivy cudgel woger
Or U-turn over horn leech
feels like a good bulky offense but with a random Hydreigon
Dragapult could be placed over it
Also whatâs the speed evs for?
on Gambit
Gking set feels awkward btw, Iâd use psy noise for sub mons like Prim, Moth, and Kyurem
sludge bomb for the higher poison chance over wave
and ice beam because your Glis matchup seems hard
and while hurricane is of course a very viable option on Moltres, consider roar for phasing and setup sweepers or willowisp for status spread
also I lwk lied gliscor doesnât seem bad, just Iâd use smth else over flame
but it can stay if you think itâs best
Edited team, tres was meant to be sp def here, dk why it wasnât, I think itâs bc I disconnected and the server got the wrong version
Also made Ogerpon 236 atk w 8 hp 12 def to live CC from max atk Val and Tusk after rocks and power whip from opposing ogers from full
Dreigon hits harder
basically no safe switch in for it
Yeah but itâs also slower
Just to note
you donât have a single mon with a base speed over 100
specs Pult is still extremely difficult to switch into
I donât really need speed all that much
I got bulk and priority
you have one form of priority, and a specs Dragapult can mess this team up if you pivot wrong
A stone edge ice fang Za too
There are many Pokémon you cannot just count out
Woger gets play rough, and if your Apple cannot kill an SD boosted woger after a play rough, then either youâre losing a lot of mons, or youâre losing
because you canât outspeed it
And Gambit is unreliable priority, due to low PP and it being a gambling game
Either way, all a mon needs to do is break your core, and the rest could take over
Make drapple rocky helmet donât think you need boots spam that much.
Add the 4 evs on your tusk.
Make gambit Tera dark if youâre black glasses.
Team is kinda slow so you probably need to either make hydriegon a scarfer or replace it with another scarfer that can learn trick like meowscarada,latios,darkrai,gholdengo, etc
And yea like what others said above you probably need ice beam more than you need flamethrower otherwise Gliscor is kinda rough to deal with
Your Ghold Mu is already decent with gambit moltres etc
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https://pokepast.es/2727da89931d09ea
Made this team an year ago or so. Getting back to Competitive Pokémon now.
Roaring Moon is tagged Uber now.
What do I replace it with and any suggestions apart from that?
this was not balance at all btw
this was HO with a random Clod and Azu
I see. What do you recommend then?
Make this a grassy terrain HO
Hawlucha and whatnot
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my team, i'm beginner
I personally like this team but some moveset are wrong, so I recommend :
For teracrystal :
- Water on Gliscor (so u don't get x4 on ice types)
- Dragon or Fighting on Corviknight, I personally prefer Dragon
- Steel on Toxapex
- Flying on Skeledirge
For items :
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Leftovers on Rillaboom is decent but I recommend you to use the choice band moveset adamant
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Heavy-duty Boots or Air Balloon on Skeledirge, I prefer Heavy-duty Boots
For Moveset
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Use Band moveset on Rillaboom, it's a sample moveset as I remember
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Will-o-Wisp Hex Slack Off and Torch Song on Skeledirge
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Surf Toxic Spikes Recover Haze on Toxapex
I think that's all because ur team seems really decent.
Maybe try to use an Entry Hazards remover like Great Tusk or Iron Treads
i saw defog on corvi so ig it's either Defog either Spin both work I like both
I hope it helps because I am not the best on this server đ
And sorry if I have bad English tho
This isn't exactly a team rate, but rather a need of advice. I got this core from from the forum and thought about using it bc i enjoy volt turn a lot and haven't used scizor, one of my favorites yet. But i somewhat still lack the knowledge and experience for teambuilding so idk which other mons to use. Anyone got any advice?
use calm mind moveset I personally like, specs also good
I don't speak English very well either
oh đ
I will test
okayokay
;-;
https://pokepast.es/
I am no teambuilder but I still enjoy using this team
Whoops link aint even working
can't use a non-attacking move with av also is that me or the set looking like something from doubles?, two rockers is not good, the team just feels all over the place, also no ground immunity
.
AV was a mistake
I think you'll find better help at #comp-general , they help there for unfinshed team but here it's for rating full teams
I did it but no one answered so idk
I'm trying to build a team for the first time and this is my team right now, any suggestions?https://pokepast.es/1a4d4476b277b4c4
I feel like my weakest link right now is actually ogerpon, and idk why
https://pokepast.es/ee97ce2de283e4ec trying out some Tspike iron moth hstack
https://pokepast.es/1e61247415c3c1c1 - new to the game, any help is appreciated
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you should try to add some removal
two banded mons + no hazard removal will go badly
tusk usually works well on this kind of zap gking structure
you also have no ground which tusk takes care of
oh that's the other thing generally on bulky offense like this you dont wanna stack 2 cb mons
yeah probably
you can drop clef for tusk make zap tera grass
then should be like fine
yeah think that's fine
you can also consider berry gking like shuca berry gking
works pretty nice with ice beam
thanks
^can someone help me out?
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Hello everyone, sorry if I'm bothering you, but I'd like some feedback on my team. What do you think, and what changes would you recommend? (The whole team revolves around Feraligatr; if I remove it, I'll have to change the entire team's composition.) đ https://pokepast.es/4117dd75b954cf71
uturn doesnt do anything here on stall ngl
just make it ironpress
with like 72 hp 240+ def 196 speed
boots blissey
boots dozo with either waterfall or crunch
haze over infest on pex
if you want you can run scor faster than ceru
for a feraligatr team it's like okay
but it's also a feraligatr team so
maybe gking over weez
isn't a form of switching good regradless?
on stall not really
also I feel like I need brave bird for woger
unless you have something like trapping
phys def pex can handle
any tera dragon, grass
if u want run toxic pjab on pex
for that
is the team generally good tho?
saw this team online https://pokepast.es/3825dd0a41712534
i have a decent W/R w it
mmm i think sets are really important on stall
you lose to ghold stack without the boots and long term kingambit can be an issue without press
the 6 mons is fine though
then keep it as is
https://pokepast.es/0fd3e16ddfdbf865
Have won 4/5 games with this recently
it's a tournament team im not gonna say to change anything
The Azu set is probably pretty terrible
this is weak to bolt
alr
and this one i use toohttps://pokepast.es/213bc2f538feb8d3
Yea, I was sweeped by it recently.
corv isnt really that good here imo
What can be improvised?
What should I replace it with?
Pex does pretty well tho
i think u make it bolt
pex i feel like gets a bit redundant and doesnt rlly fit on this team structure
Gotchu
is this yours?
it probably can work
What build on Lando?
Cool
ye
probably usable
trick room is like you can do a bunch of stuff but it's cheese so you'll win some and lose some
off of preview
What build on Bolt?
Specs or Booster
booster
Did so
Are you sure? Because afterwards I won't have any way to remove the hazards.
Okay
https://pokepast.es/682aa1dff639df9e funny little team I cooked up, electric spam with scarf tusk and snorlax
Made it to around mid ladder but I think it can go higher
https://pokepast.es/2d34c472f55465cd Balance thingy with the goal of making a very long lasting defensive core
U have too much weakness in ice type
So scarf Darkrai can take a pleasure of destroying ur team at the moment Heatran is defeated
I'm trying to build a team for the first time and this is my team right now, any suggestions?https://pokepast.es/1a4d4476b277b4c4
I feel like my weakest link right now is actually ogerpon, and idk why
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Stored power>psyshock on cres
Tera poison>fairy
Make tusk rocks over knock off
why tera poison? also should i be running lefties or covert cloak
i've also been told that my team just doesn't mix well for one archetype, how should i fix that?
toxic immunity, and you're not worried about ground due to levitate so you're only weak to psychic
flips the bug weakness
https://pokepast.es/1250eee84a568b2c
Found this team here somewhere and tweaked it according to the suggestions.
Any tweaks required?
I made some changes, thoughts?
https://pokepast.es/0150e95e8033821c
I need some help checking Special Threats
Specs Val + Put
Pult*
Covert cloak is standard
made this Hazard Stack balance/bulky offense team to start my OU journey. i dont think its the best it can be, but im happy with the result. are there things i missed/should add, such as maybe Wish healing or Knock Off?
Make tusk stealth rocks over knockoff, and corv defog over taunt
anything i could change to make the team overall better ?
been getting back into ladder after a lil bit of a rest and this team feels very good into most things (exceptions of like corvknight)
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bump
I think Ghold as one of your win cons would be better
aka nasty plot over twave hex
also would toxapex just be better
over moth?
overall seems relatively standard just Iâd use Pex over Moth
ngl this team looks fine
If youâre new at the game and made this
good job
this is
pretty damn good
NP ghold does makes sense here and does help vs stall too, thanks for the advice
no problem
maybe using the iron moth with something pex doesnt get like whirlwind would be more thematic then?
especially given it would synergise with the hstack
could be to give it more of a niche
But this set w gunk shot/pjab is js better w Pex
i see
seems good
should use boots Tusk tho
Dragapult isnât bad but looks annoying
Anyone?
corvi doesnât fit here
It defogs your terrain away and spikes
Skeledirge --> HP and Def or HP and SpDef EV. HP SpAtk can also be playable but def evs are useless without hp evs
Also salt cure and eq is only used really with curse sets
make it rocks
You donât rlly have a spdef guy other than Glis
sooooo
6â0ed by Kyurem
team is js kinda messy
So, what do I add instead?
Gotchu, thanks!
I dont rlly know how well this team can work even tbh
2 members of your team has eq with Rillaboom on it
And you donât have a hazard remover other than Corvi which messes you up
And some hazard weak teammates
Do I rebuild from scratch?
with Dirge
thatâs what I would personally do like you can make
a Rillaboom offense team or smth
or bulky offense
since it seems like you wanted to build something like that
Okay Ig
Why are you air balloon dirge, heavy duty boots is way better.
You also want a stealth rock setter so either garg or Scor. Me personally I go rocks Gliscor here
Maybe also drop Garg for iron hands here, would be very threatening se tup sweeper especially with terrain
Pex is way too passive here I would rather glimmora for the offensive pressure. Scarf glimmora wouldnât even be bad here.
Cool, thanks!
What about Corv? Is he fine?
Iâm not going to lie, a lot of these sets here are really un optimal but corvi is one of the fine ones here
Do I drop Spikes on Glis and replace it with Rocks?
yes
spikes is pretty redundant with defog
also
I recommend rocky helmet
boots is fine
but helmet punishing with shi like uturn
itâs helpful
but if you rlly want yk to avoid rocks which is fair
then you can run that
helps vs woger anyways
https://pokepast.es/e275c5ba406f1d4f maybe something like this
Terrain extender is useless with no set up sweepers. Change this to swords dance or something.
You can also make pecharunt nasty plot to fit the pace of the team better, outside of that seems almost standard
Tera water is not bad
Thank you much!
tyy goat
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I mean I can kinda see the rain synergy but this team is unviable unfortunately
Only like 2 Pokémon here are good
Lwk I do see the potential in AV Bear
for Kyurem
just uh
rocks messes his team up bad
yeah @lime oracle you kinda want smth more standard for rain
thereâs actually a beartic rain team for OU
I think
If you wanna try that out
Politoed needs to go tho
I feel like you're trying to shove more then one playstyle in the same team, you really just stick to one although i do notice that all of them are mainly HO which choiced mons aren't recommended in unless it has pivot and be essential
whats Ho?
Hyper offense
so I need more defense?
no if your going to that route you should stick with one playstyle to be more consistent, like in your team you have a sticky web setter and a sun setter with specs kyu being there for god knows why. generally if you're still confused go take a look at the samples to see and understand better or ask in #comp-general
also ho is basically a full team of offensive mon with one mon doing something so everyone can abuse it, sun, hazards or screens
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This is pretty salvageable. Glimmora and tusk are usually a great fit on web teams, however you probably need to change some of the sets here like making tusk booster energy over rocky helmet here.
And yea as the other person above said youâre kinda mixing playstyles with a Ninetales+walking wake sun core and a random specs kyurem.
If you want to go for a webs structure. Booster spatk agility wake can work. If you want to keep kyurem you can make it dragon dance variant like sub Dd. Then you probably replace Ninetales for a ghost like Ceruledge/gholdengo
https://pokepast.es/0a6458f51aef90e2 I think for now just run something like this
can i replace kingambit with wake?
I mean I was thinking about making walking wake its agility set but I felt like stacking too many dragon at the same time didnât feel right to me
oh yeaaaa k thx
Np
last question how do I build walking wake agilty?
Walking Wake @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Agility
- Hydro Steam
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
Tera fairy lets you resist gambit sucker punch
đ much appreciated
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Would head smash be better there?
Stone edge has its advantages, non contact and doesnât give recoil
And high crit chance too
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this looks like a mix of HO and BO
and itâs not that great for it to be that way
Although I think turning this into BO is the best thing for this team
goodra doesnt rlly want sludge wave or pulse imo
Iâd say draco for actual damage with Goodra
and
eq so you dont get walled forever by gking
and if you rlly wanna hit fairies go w your stab flash cannon
AV Rilla is eh
try SD
Idk how well Enam fits here
but idk how to change it either
Boots Tusk is the way tho
Glimm could be power herb
and Tusk can be rocks
Also your Goodra should be more HP over Spdef bc Woger doesnât seem easy
Tera Blast Stellar on Ena đ€€
I lowk prefer knock off on h-goodra for G-Slowking so if u setup entry hazards it still gets damages since it's mainly played Hdb
that works too
tbh forgot it got that
yah
Oh đ
no rocks?
first thing I noticed was that anyways
team gets 6â0ed by woger too
fix your teras
Yo guys could sm1 help me make a team on pv I am struggling and would want sm help
this isnt rlly the channel
this just rates teams
not makes them
but also just use a sample
Oh alr yk where I could ask?
on smogon
Seen sm samples i need team for national dex
thatâs also just #1059714627384115290 too
Playing on this cobblemon server and currently there are nat dex rankeds there
Oki thanks for advice
I will try there and look at sum tamplets
Why are we running sash on a BO team, just run red card or something
AV rillaboom seems redundant just make its regular wall breaking set, youâre free to run Tera blast sd lo here
Cc/rock move on tusk>>knock off
252 Atk Wellspring Mask Ogerpon-Wellspring Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 36 HP / 0 Def Goodra-Hisui: 121-143 (39 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
and sludge wave 2hkos
that's the other reason other than fairies to run sludge wave
I did consider it, I feel like I lose out on a lot of important coverage if I remove something I currently have
same for knock
oh what type? idt I'm familiar with the tera blast set
Usually Tera blast electric for molt and corv
dyt red card or the meteor beam set would be better
Sd glide knock Tera
ah
Red card is fine here it will help you with phasing and setting up Tspikes
I like meteor beam glimm on more ho teams
that makes sense
is this for like kyurem and ting-lu
and maybe hlr doesn't ohko gambit
(for cc)
Yea kyurem and Lu mainly
kk
Looks standard
Ceruledge @ Life Orb
Ability: Weak Armor
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 32 Def / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Poltergeist
- Bitter Blade
- Shadow Sneak
I think this set will allow you to live non attacking item darkrai at full which is seems your team is weak too
reposting
yeah you have no knock off on a hazard stack
and the sets could use some help
whatâs the main problems to fix?
knock off
you could easily add it on gliscor or samurott hisui
you could drop protect and tspikes
tusk if you want to run 4 attacks better to run cc and headlong rush
alright Iâll make those changes! are there other optimizations I could do, maybe EVs or the likes?
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Wow! Another SD Chomp team?! Who couldâve known?
Why steel
Why not just run Tera ghost
hmmmmmmm
not a bad idea
Appreciate that
Youâre immune to espeed and zama stabs
Also boots knock deoxys is kinda wasted on non Hstack teams. Maybe nasty plot Deoxys here?
Kinda like knock, but also not a bad idea
I do hate relying on focus blast tho lol
but again not a bad idea
anything else?
Not much else to comment on looks pretty standard otherwise for me
Maybe Tera poison Lu
Been trying to experiment with sun teams. Is there anything I can do to improve this?
Put Close Combat Solar Blade Triple Axel Tera Blast with Tera Crystal Fire and Life Orb
Sounds good! Is there any other areas on this team have any potenial issues?
this looks mostly ok
id make it a jolly gambit with low kick here
probably air balloon too
if youre gonna use ground move on venu anyway you might as well run EQ + naive nature
Wait whatâs wrong with earth power venu
its pretty strictly worse than eq
eq helps cover stall and between the bp increase and the sameish offensive stats venu has
it ends uo hitting about as hard anyway
on the relevant targets that is
like hold on
this for example is obviously just more damage
or like
any 4x weak like moth / heatran will take 300% anyway
its nothing big but its just usually optimal
Oh makes sense
turn this into ho by removing the clef scarf Lando and Oger
Use power herb or something across those lines Glimm for rocks and breaking and whatnot
The rest just change into your average HO screens loving mons
https://pokepast.es/4481a3062c394d1d is this good?
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loses to gambit
i would tell u tusk over bolt but thats already a known team
zama over bolt could work
If youâre running endure policy ceruledge you might aswell run 3 attacks because you most likely wonât be able to get another swords dance.
lwk didnt realize it was endure ceru
Also youâre mixing playstyles half your mons donât even fit screens Ho
what set
idef
i kinda like the idea here but you are weak to gambit and i feel like making use of veil more would be nice
veil?
maybe make it like a semi screens type of deal where you have like a mon to abuse screens
aurora veil
/screens
same thing
oh how would I make more use of it?
so like you could try double dance scor
add an idef zama since you are weak to gambit
maybe a plot ghold
who should I get rid of?
and light clay over icy rock since i think you dont need that many turns with blizz kyu
k
ace, sciz
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are water types a threat or something?
đ€(im clearing missing something here aren't Iđ )
oh what im trynna say is
you want to be able to hit water types super effectively
because freeze dry + ep goes virtually unresisted
but with ice beam and blizzard only you can only hit like
well you lose to some special waters
like prim
and av mola
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https://pokepast.es/5268218c42fe73cc volt turn
This Ogerpon set doesnât fit this volt turn team ngl.
I think something like scarf flip turn hamu fits the pace of this team. Bulky will o ace and hex willo pult on the same team is kinda redundant make ace offensive sucker punch here to help with pult more.
Tyyy the team feels a lot better now
https://pokepast.es/e007e030add37309 pivot spam
I know itâs pivot spamâŠ
but I dont thinkâŠ
every mon needs a pivot move.
that's quite literally the point of a pivot spam
I've made 3 very similar teams here. I'm confused which as to which one is the best at mid ladder. Pls help me choose.
https://pokepast.es/b7c6da6569580fad
Test them first and find out
I did for a while all of them struggle against booster ironval
The corv one loses to cinderace unless I instantly tera my corv
And the glowking one loses to sun unless I tera water
Something considered pivot spam is like
3-4 mons using uturn/volt or wtv
Wait hold on. The first oneâŠ
https://pokepast.es/cc06b756c6f596d8 use something like this.
-Superpower oger is unoptimal compared to low kick since you still hit a lot of the top fighting weak PokĂ©monâs with 120 power(gambit, ting Lu, kyurem, heatran, etc) but here we are using rock tomb to make your moltres MU better.
Iron head tusk is wack counter play for iron valiant tbh, I would just make it the rocker here so that you can drop Tornadus>moltres for a better fairy & kyurem MU. Then you can run Tera ghost pecharunt here over heatran for extra spin blocking and still making your mu into physical attackers like great tusk decent.
Hamurott changed to black glasses to make it more threatening. Then Ghold is free to run scarf here for speed control
Feel like Bolt here could be cm for a wincon
Or SD Woger
also you have lots of hazards but no spin blocker
Tysm I'll try this out. Why have u given moltres 12 speed? What does it outspeed?
Max speed jolly gambit
Treads and Corvi removes hazards easily vs this
Ah ic
Also I had iron also for tera fairy tera blast gambits and ironvals as my team almost always lost to mixed vals
doesnât pech/molt beat it
esp mixed, pech beats it
This is a new one
These r the ones I made
oh
Appreciate you using my fav core tho đ
might use this team myself lol
@nocturne sable wdyt
This is kinda similar to a team I just rated not too long ago. But yea cinderace is kinda needed on teams like these
yeah just realized I have nothing against hazards, what should I replace with?
Probably oger im ngl
what set
Bulky ace can work here
imo I would recommend Sacred Sword over Knock Off on H-Samurott so u can ohko gambit
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Miraidon is not legal in SV OU, so this is not the place to ask
Which one is he legal in? I'm just starting out, sorry.
no worries! you can see on the Smogon page that miraidon is in the AG (anything goes) tier, which is the highest tier in traditional singles formats, so that's the only tier it can be used in within Smogon's traditional singles formats
Okay, thank you very much!
how can i fix the gholdengo issue
well more specifically it's more of a dragapult / speed boost iron valiant issue
could i potentially like, convert it into a hazard stack with ting lu
nahhh
U-Turn over Will-o-Wisp and wtf ur team has too many weaknesses to kyurem
Fair
Random Pech and Apple on g-terrain
Make Rilla terrain extender, add Hawlucha and Hatt
Why is Hatt eject button on this team
this should just turn into pivot spam imo so
Change Hatt w uhhhh lwk idk who but let me think
Js hatt doesnât fit here
and make Lokix boots
your team is very weak to Wogerpon
Ngl I like sp def Tres and Pecharunt along w Samu on this team
Let me go in builder rq
@young gust https://pokepast.es/ee5c1d394d78d16b
Valiant and Kyurem feel interchangeable in this core but with this you can pivot more freely
I use specs Val for stall breaking but mixed boots work here
literally boots spam lmao
against a specs Kyurem itâs a little hard imo but you can pivot with sp def tres and Val
And Tusk can soak knock
I was slightly worried abt speed control but you have first impression priority and Zama can be dealt with Pecharunt easily
Pult may be your only concern but t dark Pech walls band sets
and specs is not too hard to deal with using Tres
(tusk should have ice spinner)
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Feels standard. Although rest zama with no Chesto is kinda wack. Youâre better off running heavy slam to hit fairies or roar as the last moveslot.
Outside of that team looks standard
Just made this, can anyone rate it/tell me what i need ? Rn i don't have a way to hit flying/water types super effectively so im thinking of running thunderbolt on Ival
ig life orb speed deoxys moveset has ice beam
And anyways mainly water types have mostly a double type in OU as far as I remember
Im running it as a suicide lead tho
Im actually quite happy with deoxys speed here
oh
Colbur berry stealth rock suicide lead
This should go all into HO
So
boots DD dnite with either roost or ice spinner
tera normal
Remove pech with another sweeper
Make Tusk bulk up
So just go full hyper offense ?
That sounds fun, tho ive heard newbies shouldn't make HO as a first team
I mean itâs relatively easy
just set up and sweep
that sweeper dies
go to another
I mean it does make some bad habits for when i play another team type
fair
Since i doubt all teams play like "send mon, mon sweep, mon dies, send another mon"
no rocks or spin on tusk
What should i do for the team to steer it to a more balanced team ?
There is spin on tusk
This the pokepaste
oh mb
Anyway uh uh uh
It's solid enough, I just can't see how I can get it to beat stall without overhauling the whole thing
Enam goes hard vs your team too
Band rilla
Idk why itâs lefties
Tbf yeah he's pulling the least weight. Tera fire blast or?
Maybe ice
I also dont like this Ceru set or Ceru that much here
It's been putting in crazy work I promise
No priority though, I'd be even worse into bolt which is already a problem
Ceru helps, shadow sneak chops up sun well after hazards
I mean yeah but it's the easiest thing that a newbie can make AND generally easier then other archetypes to play if you have a decent team
Version 1: https://pokepast.es/012eb31a07c906fe
Version 2: https://pokepast.es/79ab0f682eb542c9
which one?
or are they both cooked
v1 is mixing archetypes way too much
corv and alo with CB breloom except you also have a booster iron moth for some reason
the prim one is a lot better imo tho that set is a bit greedy
hey all, this is the team I started using. It's mainly a sand team with Excedrill as the main sweeper. What changes should I make? After playing with it, I realized I have a hard time dealing with corv and a lot of grass types
you need EVs on skeledirge
I just redid skeledirge to post on here I had on my team earlier thats mb
it would be your best corv and grass answer except for waterpon
Gotcha is there any mons I should swap out or nah
what's your counterplay to dozo?
hmm
usually dirge wants slack off for longevity
but then you definitely need better dozo counterplay
who counters dozo well?
raging bolt is the first thing that comes to mind but other strong special attackers in general
psychic noise on primarina is generally more useful than something like hyper voice
for wallbreaking potential
if you're not gonna run surf then keep liquid voice
torrent isn't worth it to just boost flip turn
Its kind of the same move if I run liquid voice
cuz they both have 90 base
liquid voice will boost psychic noise
oh shoot ok
ok Im running flip turn, psy noise, moonblast, and ice beam on prim
how does that look?
Rillaboom
https://pokepast.es/e569bc23956fa547
made some updates to a hazard stack team i had made. it still needs work (im p new to OU) and i do wish i could run multiple hazards on one of the pokemon to get a bulkier/utility-based slot. any tips?
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not too sure about protect on hamu
you could run actual water stab, priority with aqua jet or sucker punch, or knock off, you miss out on good utility there
for hazard stack prolly knock off
yeah i was trying to find a last slot and to help with zama
everything else good tho?
lando-t isn't ideal on balance
it's a better pick on more offensive teams
tusk is probably the better option here
and sub prim ususally wants draining kiss
if you want to stick with moonblast tho then make her psynoise + liquid voice instead of surf
this is pretty mediocre ngl, tspikes Glis is wack and Samu is used on offensive hazard stack
not this
Glis set is wack too
use utility Glis and rocks Garg
Specs Pult
AV Tusk lwk sucks
Just use 4 attacks
with spin
probably another bulky pivot over Samu
actually
Run raging bolt over Gambit and use Ghold
so is the darkrai fine too then?
because isn't that an offense mon too
i was just looking for a fast and strong check to the stuff i cant hit with breloom
choice holders are usually ballance / bulky offense mons
seed bomb >>>>>> bullet seed on breloom
kept the krai, switched to great tusk and changed primarina for pech
bullet seed does 5 less power and if it gets an extra hit its better
im experimenting with scarf ghold and dragapult in the darkrai slot too
you do not have loaded dice
is it not a guranteed two hit?
it only does 5 less power if you hit 3 times
you could hit from anywhere from 50 to 125 power
isn't 3 the avg tho
it's not even odds
35% chance to hit 2 or 3 times, 15% chance to hit 4 or 5 times
yeah thats what i mean
if im correct 37.5 with technician boost for its base power so a two hit is 75
oh this is on a technician mon?? yeah 100% bullet seed
yeah i knew i wasnt tweakin
it boosts each hit
doesn't technitian not boost multihit moveS?
oh wait that's tera
yeah no absolutely bullet seed mb
this the updated team
tysm
u helped helal
i js have one quesitn tho
how would specs val break how it hit corv or a bliss w tera steel or a spdef tera steel pex
well, one way is to use trick on them
if a defensive pokemon gets a choice item it cripples them a lot
It can hit corvi with thunderbolt along with pex
and for the tera guys
trick like ascension said or try relying on hazards/teammates
If you wanna slot in that ofc
But also psyshock hits Bliss and Pex real hard so you might want to try surprising them with that
if they always switch into moonblast
and honestly you can pretty much pressure corvi with a tera fairy specs Moonblast
so it should be fine
I dont like nasty plot pech here
and tusk should be boots
other than that looks fine
oh alr ty
npnp
https://pokepast.es/0f22784c78772e45
This is what i edited to, i know this team is helplessly weak to any will o wisp user but idk which one to replace and for what
Ping me when replying
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https://pokepast.es/115debe397b508ce
Tips to make this better?
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https://pokepast.es/0baad4795741beab
anything to change, move, remove?
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Why do you need both unaware clef and clodsire, just make clefable magic guard to have an additional knock off absorber
Also run cm flamethrower over cm thunder wave to actually make progress
Actually I didnât peep that you donât even have a stealth rock setter.
So itâs either you make clodsire standard rocks toxic recover eq & clefable cm flamethrower
Or you keep amnesia clodsire and run stealth rocks Twave clef
Random choice band pult on HO, not optimal.
You can drop it here for something like iron moth since youâre threat stacking here. that way you actually have a fairy resist somewhat for mons like enamorus for example.
Outside of that, seems like fairly standard ho
Also consider Tera fire gambit to improve fairy & moltres mu
You can also try max speed low kick jolly gambit with Tera fighting if you feel like youâre struggling with opposing gambits
This is salvageable but youâre using sets that donât fit HO.
Boots tusk with rocks fits on balance, Bo teams. Same with knock u-turn wogerpon.
Specs pult is mainly for offense/BO teams.
Np Ghold and cm bolt are standard, but imo your team is kinda slow which makes it inefficient.
https://pokepast.es/1aab28c89453015f maybe make it something like this
Hi guys, im new in the game. This is the first team i created, any feedback and changes are appreciated. https://pokepast.es/4cafa717d6131a72
I feel like your defensive core gets owned by kyu
Kyurem? What changes do you suggest?
I mean to be honest it's playable but I would be really careful and it would for you to tera lot, the team also feels a tad slow but maybe it's just me
Ok, thanks for your reply
I feel this team has a lack of priority though
The only priority user is sucker punch Sam
Also these two sets are identical
Wait which team are you talking about
you also have thunderclap
on raging bolt
The edited version I mean
oh I see, I mean yeah but you also have speed control with deo-s and maybe rapid spin great tusk
The first one or the second one
Second one with deoxys you have 4 mons that can boost speed so should be fine
Both of the versions you sent me were the same
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ah shoot sorry for the ping didn't realize it would do that
but these are the two different options they gave
I'll post when I've got more practice with the team + maybe some tweaks, but I was so sick of stall and finally decided sash ceruledge wasn't working for me. Welcome to the team, booster speed iron crown and mixed kyurem. I'll never be stalled again
Changed Tusk up a bit, but it feels weird. Rapid spin has to stay, headlong rush and knock off definitely feel right, but the choice between rocks or ice spinner never feels easy
I think this other one will be more my speed
I tested out the other one and I've definitely felt vulnerable at times without tera flying on Gholdengo or Raging Bolt in my corner
i feel like i need better removal and its weak to gambit but idk how to fix it without breaking something else
https://pokepast.es/cb0277a62424d14a guys is this hazard stack team worthy of respect'
or is it buns
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ok theres like
a bunch of problems here
this is like fat balance sorta
but you have only 1 remover that doesnt remove vs ghold whatsoever
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why does this say gen 9 monotype
AV?
other than that seems standard and fine
Assault vest
k thx
