SV OU Rates

[nocturne sable]

& ting Lu is one of the premier stealth rock setters so it’s kinda free for him to run it

[unborn root]

Anyways lack of sleep Talk could became ting lu very passive against some mons

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/6a38540fbd3f99e5

[unborn root]

Anda take advantage of this and free set up in from of him

[regal ginkgo]

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[final relic]

seed ghold generally wants to be np

[nocturne sable]

Eeeeeh you can live without sleep talk

[unborn root]

I Will try it

[nocturne sable]

Oh yea I think I rated this team before. When I said run seed Ghold I meant obviously with Np

To take advantage of set up

[unborn root]

Yeah i am agree with you

Its better a sweeper set instead status hex set

[solar sundial]

https://pokepast.es/ce41d2c80e2df430

Wanted to make slither work in honor of the new model

While it hits fairly hard, and is fairly bulky – it feels like its just

Incredibly mediocre at both

Was considering either a crazy band set or leaning in fully on defendive slither

[solar sundial]

@nocturne sable speaking of slither wing 🤫

[inner terrace]

loses to fly blast nite

[solar sundial]

Well, what do i change?

Saying that doesnt really help

[inner terrace]

i was thinking

prolly scarf ghold over gking

and then hazards scor

over sd scor

[solar sundial]

You mean over rai?

[inner terrace]

you have the breaker/knocker in waterpon and somewhat removal in scarf ghold and scarf ghold is probably the most consistent setup dnite answer

no

over gking

[solar sundial]

Having 2 speed control mons seems like a bit much

[inner terrace]

no thats totally fine

id encourage it even ngl

1 speed control option only is hard to work unless ur running ting

and some bulky defensive core to work with

[solar sundial]

I was considering ting here at some point

Over slowking

[inner terrace]

doesnt rlly help vs ddnite much imo

i think sd scor is not needed here though

you have sd pon

[frail sun]

https://pokepast.es/c54c1211dcbe9462

any thoughts to make this team better

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/b97e8b8a17b8d0e3
Helmet heatran + hoopau

[autumn hare]

I’ve played you on ladder

You’re way too weak into hazards

I’d go for a couple more pair of boots or like an Ace or Hatt

Maybe a ballon on Tran or something could also help

[wooden linden]

A lot of the team here feels all over the place. Magnezone is a pretty unviable mon, and the movesets of a lot of these guys are pretty odd overall.

I'd say if you want to maintain using quaq with that set, i would def put it in a more offensive playstyle
https://pokepast.es/83f586dc2c6e5430
I'd say smth like this here

[autumn hare]

Torn and Hoopa also kind of do the same thing as balance breakers + the Woger situation is non-ideal

[terse widget]

But how many ice types are there rrl?

[jade cedar]

doesn't have to be an ice type to have coverage for it, for exemple darkrai has ice beam

[wooden mountain]

Kyurem is the main form of ice stab in OU

[jade cedar]

Weavile crying in the corner

[terse widget]

Yea but this works with every type

[terse widget]

You dont know how i was sad when he dropped

[frail sun]

Kk thanks

[placid yarrow]

https://pokepast.es/5479590367768b0a

Don't normally post here
But I am curious what the rmt team people think of la abomination

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/c6cea71f52e7f309

[nocturne sable]

Not much to say you have 4 demons +atales & treads

Although I might like deo speed more here as a screens setter

[placid yarrow]

I haven't tried deo with these 5 yet
Partially because I am very biased towards atales
But I might try it out
Tho I think every version of the team has had the same problem which is darkrai
There no good solution vs it other than
"Tera something"

[nocturne sable]

Lowkey, speed booster tusk with bulk up CC

[nocturne sable]

Just make Hamu the AV user & go glowking>>iron crown instead

[placid yarrow]

https://pokepast.es/e42e165995bbe7c0

Like this?

Also I am sorry for this nick
I had to do it

[nocturne sable]

Yea something like that

Can either go taunt>>spin or Tera steel to make Gliscor set up fodder though

And steel will still allow you to keep the ice resist too so it’s not bad

[placid yarrow]

Tf do I do vs tspikes lol

If I ever slip up and let it get setup
That's basically gg

[nocturne sable]

Like you can still keep spin if you make it Tera steel or something.

Tspikes ermm.. you make sure you already made decent progress enough to not care about it in the late game.

Usually I see screen team slap a glimmora somewhere aswell

[placid yarrow]

I think if I want to go with deo+tea+and that tusk set
I would prob use an entirely different supporting cast because the original idea behind pon+ceru was that you always had treads to pinch hazard removal
But otherwise they benefit super hard from screens support

[placid yarrow]

https://pokepast.es/2a85f7dc10f9f673

Actually no what about this

Glimmora gave me an idea

Tho stall seems a bit harder
I think it's workable

[nocturne sable]

Adamant ceruledge is strong asf

[placid yarrow]

Yeah but I still gotta play good vs dozo
Can't braindead it too hard

[nocturne sable]

Yea just check calcs it’s like a half chance to 2hko vs dozo with rocks up.

But I think the tools are still there. Taunt tusk & deo-speed can potentially be annoying

[placid yarrow]

Ye
I just need to rewire my brain when using this

[nocturne sable]

0 Atk Dondozo Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Great Tusk through Reflect: 69-82 (18.5 - 22.1%) -- possible 5HKO
Possible damage amounts: (69, 70, 70, 72, 72, 73, 75, 75, 76, 76, 78, 78, 79, 79, 81, 82)

Dozo barely does damage under screens. I think there’s a chance you eventually just win

[placid yarrow]

Makes sense

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/b19521cd95ef420e this feels like a mess but I tried

[quartz lark]

I have some suggestions

Mola>>Dozo
Treads or Tusk>>Ace
Lorb Rilla

[worn lark]

https://pokepast.es/82c5cb7c916b107f nobody's rated mine and ive tried 3 times

Primarina & Bolt are the main breakers, bolt especially helps with rough MOs like sinischa, gliscor, & others i can't destroy otherwise (Especially with T-blast Ice); Sub Prim can easily sweep if some threats are removed, and it walls non-tbolt drag, beats moth with tera, and absolutely wrecks stall once blissey has some chip)

Alo is the standard wish-passer making especially scizor and lando last forever

Tusk is decent removal, that's pretty much it. It's my only stealth rock resist, and my only boots, so i need it.

Scizor is AV instead of hdb or band here. The flexibility of changing moves helps a great amount, and AV insures scizor stays alive forever, walling even kyurem, ival, and hatt

Lando is for physical threats, and a stealth rock setter. It also helps with stall MO by giving helm chip, resisting body press, and taunt.

[quartz lark]

Both Tusk and Lando are redundant.

[nocturne sable]

A lot of redundancy’s here imo. & AV scizor is such a copium fairy resist but idk it might actually be half decent.

I would drop landorus for Zapdos here.

Drop alomomola for gking here, gives you a proper pivot & fairy resist. I would make gking flamethrower here for stuff like gholdengo.

Then I would drop scizor for something like scarf darkrai for speed control.

Lastly I would probably make primarina non liquid voice here so your psynoise can hit stuff like Toxapex

[solar sundial]

https://pokepast.es/f15fe74e39391770

Revision of an old team i decided to revisit with scizor now

Oger MU feels fairly poor, even if i can usually chunk it with u-turn from pult

[low phoenix]

Looks ok, I’d prefer band scizor on this team tho

[jade cedar]

a bit too weak to ice for my liking, ye scizor could do the job but still feels a bit risky since it's your only resist while like the rest of the team except for g-king is weak to it, two 4x

[solar sundial]

I was considering replacing gliscor, but its doing a bit too much here for me to replace

Ting lu feels a bit too passive over chomp (and the main issue still persists)

Maybe AV crown? Over glowking

[worn lark]

Mm ok

[solar sundial]

Losing a bit of longetitvity for a more bearable kyurem MU

[jade cedar]

ye maybe, try testing it your team is like I said a bit too weak to ice so a bulky steel type should do the job, also like the other person said make scizor banded for instant good power and to threaten kyu, aka you're biggest problem

[solar sundial]

Isnt woger a bigger problem here?

[jade cedar]

pult can outspeed and burn it which will make it times manageable

[solar sundial]

Makes sense

[nocturne sable]

Scizor+gking should do the job if you keep them healthy enough

[solar sundial]

So i dont need to switch to crown?

[nocturne sable]

Meeh not really

[solar sundial]

Cool, then

[nocturne sable]

Just make sure you don’t let them get max layers up

[solar sundial]

If not pokemon, anything i should change in sets?

[solar sundial]

Well, its my job to get max layers up obviously, not theirs

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/3bdea386d79e98ea

[regal ginkgo]

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[alpine hornet]

two rockers is redundant, id also go standard av torn here

otherwise looks fine

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/9047aa8ded3a34f0 made some changes

[regal ginkgo]

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[nocturne sable]

You have duplicate headlong rush on your tusk

[gritty lake]

was supposed to be headsmahs

[jade cedar]

I feel like you need a knocker since your strategy becomes useless against boots spam

[gritty lake]

Boots spam is rare

Everyone is using hatterene

[jade cedar]

ye but knock off is generally good in most situations, also booted mons are FAR from rare so knocker won't hurt*

[nocturne sable]

Adamant Ceruledge wants SS for offence MU

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/00cbaa9400f88095

[jade cedar]

no electric resist or immunity, depending on tera for surprise facture is inconsistent since you won't be always able too, also no removal

[quartz lark]

What changes do you propose?

[jade cedar]

try to throw tusk on this team, also your dnite set gets wall by air ballon ghold

https://pokepast.es/02d5dd60b6a4f7c2

[regal ginkgo]

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[north nimbus]

Icl you just rebuilt his entire team

[quartz lark]

I don't like these changes.

[jade cedar]

this isn't your team it's just one that I've been testing and I wanna see opinions

[quartz lark]

Where does Tusk fit

[jade cedar]

probably skar

[quartz lark]

🙈

[north nimbus]

Prob over hatt, which leaves room for you to go gking and then some other breaker > zoroark

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/d26bf89ffc26f8d4 something like this?

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/3dac175188b8fa93

Preferably a ghost resist over zoroark

[north nimbus]

You can mix and match, I def would say go offensive utility tusk, but the zoroark spot can be played around, garg or Lu are great options against ghost and help check other nuisance and alleviates pressure from gking, while gambit is another solid win condition for this team, and Garg Lu can be rocks and skarm spikes so you get a free move slot for coverage or utility on tusk

[errant vale]

https://pokepast.es/86d2af1dc1447074

[autumn hare]

You have no speed control

[errant vale]

true maybe twave slowk

but rapid spin tusk ish

[quartz lark]

Kingambit (F) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Kowtow Cleave
• Swords Dance
• Sucker Punch
• Tera Blast

[north nimbus]

I would do lefties gambit tbh

Iron head tbh > low kick

[quartz lark]

What are some spicy mons right now?

[dark slate]

Can someone rate my team please

https://pokepast.es/ac9c5061fbc3cd22

[regal ginkgo]

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[dark slate]

i have another team : https://pokepast.es/f0cad0d498a6083a

[low phoenix]

Choice scarf serperior

[low phoenix]

Give Draga wisp over sucker punch to hurt kingambit switch in

[dark slate]

Dragonite full HP ATT , roost, dragon tail

[low phoenix]

Give hoodra knock off oover pne of its coverage moves

[dark slate]

Understands, more advices ?

[low phoenix]

Make mirror coat on mola scald/tickle mirror coat is better on av mola

Give heatran stealth rock over protect

[dark slate]

replace with earthquake , cause it still hurt Ghol

[dark slate]

okay

[low phoenix]

Make dnite standard dragon dance

[dark slate]

Why ?

[low phoenix]

Wait you can try bulky dnite

You just won’t have a proper wincon

[dark slate]

why ??

how can i have a win con ?

[nocturne sable]

Ngl this team has a lot of redundancy & overlaps like the double spdef steel types(Hoodra heatran) which makes the defense core feel very sus.

& you’re mixing playstyles here. You have double phasing with no hazards then adding balance mons like corv to this team.

If you’re trying to run Hstack I recommend knock off Hoodra here>earthquake.

I would also establish who on your team will be your hazard setters.

I think one thing I would add here is a rapid spinner, I’m thinking great tusk here. Helps remove hazards for Hisui Goodra here that would help it check what it needs to check without worrying about hazards. Also gives you a ground which is nice for electric immunity.

I would also try & establish your hazards setters.

For spikes skarmory is not a bad audition. Its general utility is pretty user here over corviknight.

Mola I can see it working here. Wish support+providing an additional hazard blocking option with tera ghost+pivoting is useful. I won’t try to change it here. If you’re running mixed mirror coat I would focus on putting more spdef evs to make modest prim a 3HKO.

However one of dragonite, Dragapult needs to be changed here. & it’s most likely going to be dragonite since its role it taken by almost everything here & it’s kinda overlapping. For the last slot here I like the idea of darkrai here. Provides a switching to ghost most like shadow ball and also has utility of its own. I would probably go knock off boots rai here to provide another source of removing items.

TL/DR: great tusk, skarmory, darkrai>>>>heatran, dragonite, corviknight

[nocturne sable]

Remove heatran for glimmora here that heatran does not belong on a screens team.

Also not a big fan of court change ace here. If you want to abuse screens I think you should make it swords dance here.

Also I personally prefer Tera ground serperior for raging bolt MU.

[dark slate]

i do learnabout ur advices, it was refreshing, ur a real pro

[quartz lark]

Serperior @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Contrary
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 180 Spe
Timid Nature

• Leaf Storm
• Knock Off
• Giga Drain
• Glare

Viable or not

[solar sundial]

Ok im sorry but i need to revisit this, scizor is such a cope ice resist

Weavile and kyurem destroy this team

[icy ravine]

hi guys I'm kinda curious if theres anything particularly wrong with this team I've been having some fun with it but one thing i've noticed is maybe hawlucha could just be replaced pretty easily here

https://pokepast.es/368532b1df5bf87a

[languid tendon]

I dont know what glare and knock off are doing on a scarf mon thats special ngl

[quartz lark]

Its coverage is terrible, there's no other options

[low phoenix]

Scizor is explicitly a weavile and Kyu check…

[solar sundial]

When its the sole ice resist on your whole team that doesnt mean shit lmao

[low phoenix]

Bullet punch threatens them both

That matters more on offensive teams

[north nimbus]

What seems to be the issue

[icy ravine]

Uh well after some
More games

I’ve realized

I def need a special attacker

Like rn it’s rlly matchup dependent

On whether stuff like zenta and lucha can sweep

Also Zapdos sorta super hard counters me

[north nimbus]

I do think having tusk zama and lucha is somewhat redundant

U could do something like iron moth > lucha, cm grassy seed hatt > gking, bu tusk, and rocks Tran > garg , tho alternatively you can do like treads > tusk, cm hatt > gking, and like raging bolt > lucha there’s really a lot of way u can approach this team tbh

[icy ravine]

Ok thanks

[tender lark]

https://pokepast.es/22ed64fe43645629 im considering changing oger to primarina cause hes too fragile

[regal ginkgo]

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[jade cedar]

half of the team is weak to ice and both of your supposed checks for it gets stomped with ground, ye kyu is having a field day here

[limber spear]

but there is whole glowking 😭😭😭which is av

although it isn’t psy noise

but still

and a gambit too

😭 😭 😭

[tender lark]

i can do scarf ghold instead of pult if you think thats better

[limber spear]

but tusk mu seems annoying

[tender lark]

i probably also played it bad cause im tilted rn but i just got wiped by bulk up tusk

[limber spear]

i mean 4 of them r physical attackers

[jade cedar]

I mean you can test with it, this should give you a chance to be able to do something against kyu

[tender lark]

should i change oger tho

[limber spear]

yeah ig

[tender lark]

rain ball trick and? recover or plot

[limber spear]

recover prolly

[jade cedar]

the ghold set or what?

[tender lark]

yeah ghold set

[jade cedar]

trick or recover

[limber spear]

do u even need ghold and gambit in the same team with a av glowking for a kyurem mu

😭 😭

[tender lark]

mmh

idk i've stuck with dnite tusk glowking and gambit, but i've been changing the last 2 a lot and it feels like whatever i put in there i leave myself weak to something else

maybe i don't need a ghost cause my dnite has boots? or should i just restart the whole thing

i've been always putting a ghost for spinblock but eh idk

[limber spear]

u would need a speed control and smth more that’s also fast ig but optional

[limber spear]

unless it’s h stack u don’t need a ghost (like not a must

[tender lark]

twave zapdos?

[limber spear]

u need smth naturally fast

and faster than 383

like krai zama pult deox

[limber spear]

take it with a grain of salt but try uh krai dengo pon?

and remove gambit

[tender lark]

alright i will try that thanks

[limber spear]

wait uh

that’s just offense kinda atp

and glowking prolly isn’t the best there

[limber spear]

what if we go zap>dnite and knock on pon over synthesis on the original thing

(i hope i didn’t miss any important mu)

u can make a volt turn core with that

[lime raptor]

https://pokepast.es/fa97ae9e1a0b2e93 not sure wot to put in last slot

[errant vale]

Thoughts

I get ruined by garg

Otherwise I’m ok ish

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/a62ebad363846cdf feels like a flop

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/a15e63d55379c77f this team is holy slow

[quartz lark]

This makes garg's life a living hell.

[quartz lark]

Maybe some breaker that doesn't care about Lu.

[quartz lark]

You have Spin Tusk, Scarf Scarada, and Priority with Bolt.

[quartz lark]

Maybe too many steel types with no ground immunity?

[jade cedar]

actually ye just realized that, switched treads and tinglu with tusk and gliscor

[jade cedar]

the team still looks like a kyu's food

[quartz lark]

Maybe switch Gliscor to Skarmory.

[hard pebble]

https://pokepast.es/2df169a936d085d5

[regal ginkgo]

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[nocturne sable]

You’re mixing playstyles here. You’re saying this is kyurem HO when you have 3 balance mons

[hard pebble]

My bad

[quartz lark]

Colbur Berry is wasted on Deoxy's fragility.

[hard pebble]

What should I use instead?

[quartz lark]

Deoxys-Speed probably shouldn't be on that team.

[hard pebble]

Any recommendations on who should replace Deoxys?

[quartz lark]

Maybe like a Tusk or Treads

[north nimbus]

The first four mons looks solid for the most part, then the last two kinds throw everything off

[quartz lark]

A mismatch in momentum.

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/9c95d870ede8b196

[quartz lark]

What are you getting out of Substitute on Garchomp? You’re just depleting its own health while lowering its defense with Scale Shot.

[gritty lake]

status protection+safe move into gambit

[quartz lark]

I think that’s a low return.

[errant vale]

https://pokepast.es/86d2af1dc1447074

What’s good and bad

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[errant vale]

Thinking of putting boots over specs

And helmet tusk

[alpine hornet]

please don't give advice if you aren't familiar with the tier, colbur berry is commonly seen on lead deo-s so you can get hazards up vs scarf rai and get an extra layer vs slower dark clickers like hamurott

[errant vale]

😭✌️

[alpine hornet]

this looks solid, id make tusk standard rocks to take some pressure off lu, id change ur gking to the standard spread and tera, and id make keld tera fight/steel

ur dengo evs are also suboptimal

[errant vale]

It’s worked I’ve lived a tusk hit

And spdef is tacked on

Could put in speed

[alpine hornet]

no as in investing in both defenses is mathematically wasting evs unless ur hp is maxed asw

[errant vale]

To creep gambit

Ah fair

[alpine hornet]

except on mons that have rly high hp like bliss and mola

[errant vale]

Is max def or hp better here

[alpine hornet]

id go max hp max def after hitting 220 speed here

to creep molt and gambit

[errant vale]

Alr

Mixed def is decent

Is wanna go that way what’s the investment

My friend recommended me it

[errant vale]

Water has been good

I’ve swept games w it

Boosts the dmg

Sorry if I’m yapping but speedy mons w grass coverage like meow rock me

And Tera water mons ish

Like Tera water garg

[alpine hornet]

https://pokepast.es/047f7d55362f4e31 prob smt like this?

[alpine hornet]

i see the vision, only reason i recommend fight/steel is ur a little pon weak rn

and by a lil i mean a lot

highk if ur going mixdef dengo id almost say go spdef lu and physdef glowking instead

so u have a pon switchin

[errant vale]

Yea

[errant vale]

I see it sorta

Could you btw send Paste of tweaks

Cuz I’m not pc rn

[alpine hornet]

https://pokepast.es/c59db48201cdfd08

i think scarf ghold is lowk necessary here looking back on it

u desperately need speed control

[errant vale]

Yea teams slow as balls

Is treads here a thing

Nvm

Thank you

[frail sun]

https://pokepast.es/33811127c304db25

i feel like it has too much ground weaknesses but tried making another OU team

[nocturne sable]

Interesting team. I would probably make tornadus utility torn here with knock U-turn.

Can probably also have knock on hamu over flip turn I think.

[frail sun]

Yea forgot to change grass knot into knock off

[north nimbus]

gambit mu looks a bit annoying

[nocturne sable]

Yea I was about to say replace woger with zama

[north nimbus]

Was thinking more so bolt, cause woger is nice wincon and helps a lot vs fat

[nocturne sable]

Specs bolt is also strong as well so I’m thinking maybe he wants to build around bolt?

He could still very much replace woger and make the team around woger & zama

[frail sun]

if this is for my team, i was oringinally trying to make a team around torn-t

[north nimbus]

Makes sense

zama can be 4 attacks boots and is still a relatively solid breaker

[frail sun]

kk i'll see how it will work out if i replace wogerpon with zama

[queen magnet]

rate my team in legends za ou

[north nimbus]

We don’t rate legend za ou here

[queen magnet]

then where?

[north nimbus]

Prob in their discord server

[gritty lake]

it's not?

[autumn hare]

https://pokepast.es/d0d121d55174b916

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[quartz lark]

Ah, interesting.

[nocturne sable]

Legends ZA should be in other tiers I think in #1051236342740308089

[nocturne sable]

Yea shadow sneak & psychic terrain is kinda anti-synergy still

I think I would make tusk iron treads here with volt switch to keep momentum up. And maybe replace Ceruledge with another abuser. psychic seed hawlucha doesn’t sound bad at all.

[quartz lark]

Latias @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

• Draco Meteor
• Recover
• Earthquake
• Ice Beam

Viable or not

[gritty lake]

just use latios lol

[quartz lark]

Ok frame latios with this. There’s no difference.

[nocturne sable]

What’s eq doing on a lati

Anyways this si not the channel for this

[quartz lark]

Gholdengo and Heatran. Got the idea by watching Ciele Gen 7 ou replays

[gritty lake]

You have mfire and aura sphere now

[quartz lark]

Doesnt hit as much and those two moves hit different targets. Earthquake proposes a single move to hit both.

[gritty lake]

That weak ass eq isn't doing shit to ghold either

[jade cedar]

not really, latios is better as direct offense mon with damage boosting items while latias is better at being a set-up/utility mon. also the set isn't really that worth it, other then scarf most ghold's set run air ballon and even without bulky sets takes around 30% from it's at best from uninvested atk, heatren is maybe but even with 4x weakness you have 50% to one-shot it

[quartz lark]

0 Atk Life Orb Latias Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gholdengo: 117-138 (30.9 - 36.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Life Orb Latias Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Heatran: 296-354 (76.6 - 91.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

[north nimbus]

fwiw this channel ain’t for this, redirect these type of convos to comp gen, and ur sacrificing utility on a well rounded Mon to be an offensive presence when there’s another version that is meant for said offensive presence

[quartz lark]

Is there like a server for sets?

[north nimbus]

Just go look at the analysis on the smogdex (ex. https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/latias/)

[quartz lark]

Like for reviewing sets

[north nimbus]

What do you mean

[quartz lark]

Does a server exist for set posting?

[north nimbus]

Idk what exactly ur referring to, but not that ik off

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/eaf1482d66334cd1 bump

[regal ginkgo]

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[nocturne sable]

Brother mans I swear you posted like a similar version of this exact team like 10 times already

Btw if you’re not running anything like a screens or webs setter just run sash lead glimmora

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/2246ee096f359a5d

[gritty lake]

Just once

[nocturne sable]

Scale shot LD dnite & speed booster moth usually fit on more offensive teams than balance. I would drop them from this team

Boots roar zama here probably

Ngl skarm can probably go here for corviknight. Still keep the ID press here imo

Dnite can probably be lefties Dd Tera blast

[jade cedar]

what set specifically?

[nocturne sable]

Can be regular Dd Tera blast flying with like lefties over boots

[jade cedar]

ok then thx for the help

[regal ginkgo]

Hey @fallen hatch, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9ubers team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059901370477576272 instead.

[fallen hatch]

og oops lol

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/ca6b8596685c31ba this feels horrible 😅

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rapid barn]

It feels a bit confusing

You have webs, abuse it

Like you can afford to run booster spatk moth

Raging bolt

Kingambit

Specs enam

The team just doesn’t rlly make sense to me since your team doesn’t rlly apply enough pressure to stop ppl from getting rid of your webs

(Oh and don’t run trick on ribombee, you need skill swap for Hatterene)

[jade cedar]

I feel like I can throw ghold here somewhere to make getting rid of webs even harder, maybe like offensive nasty plt?

[rapid barn]

That’s a good idea yes

[jade cedar]

and I should give tusk knock off for htb spammers

[rapid barn]

Uhhh

I think it’s prob better to run an offensive booster set

[jade cedar]

yeah the same set but with booster instead of htb, sticky webs become useless with boots spam so I need a knocker, ice spinner doesn't seem as much as necessary

[rapid barn]

With boots spam you would probably be faster anyways

Goal just try to spam strong sweepers to break their team down before they break yours

[jade cedar]

Ok then thx for the help

[jade cedar]

also quick question is tera steller enam good?

[low phoenix]

it is good on choice scarf enam

[rapid barn]

It’s good, with contrary it boosts +1 +1 with each hit

[jade cedar]

then I have in mind throwing on this on the team, ye specs maybe better but I just wanna make sure that if things went wrong bc of rng or bad play I have a scarfed mon that can actually end the game if not checked instantly

[rapid barn]

Uhh prob just run Tera fairy to boost moonblast and keep healing wish for momentum

Cuz like sometimes you might want to get rid of the flying typing in case like cinderace court changes or something

[cedar jay]

https://pokepast.es/3aea299a34ea511a

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[low phoenix]

1/3rd of your mons are unviable

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[limber spear]

felt like weez/mandi/ace can work on balances but moth needs to be in ho and hax prolly the same and u would need mbreaker to grant it. a niche to stall break

[blissful nebula]

I would say 1/6th
You can def make haxorus & mandi work in OU

[tender lark]

https://pokepast.es/37fa0867e75016df wanted to try a ceruledge team, unsure about the bolt*

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tender lark]

maybe i can put primarina instead? so i still have a switch move and av but better typing

[nocturne sable]

The only unviable non here is Dusklops really. The problem is he’s mixing playstyles hax & moth do not fit on the same structures as gweez & mandi

[cedar jay]

https://pokepast.es/addb744f0b17ed2c

This is my strongest team

[low phoenix]

i was thinking haxorus and dusclops but with haxorus you got a mon that cteams stall and does literally nothing else

[low phoenix]

add ice spinner over close combat or knock off on tusk so lando t and gliscor dont eat you

i dont like this gliscor set just use his utility smogon set

walking wake feels odd here outside of a sun team i think hydrapple works here as a wogerpon switch in and additional breaker

[cedar jay]

i put him there because i wanted a fast dragon type that can take a will o wisp and still hit hard

Also resists ice so hes not going down easily

[low phoenix]

wake doesnt resist ice

348 speed isnt exactly fast this gen tbh

[north nimbus]

fwiw u already have better speed control with iron Val and pult and some type of ice resist with gambit if ur super concerned about it

[cedar jay]

so it would be better for me if i just replace it with hydrapple

[low phoenix]

Yea

[cedar jay]

https://pokepast.es/1829604db4a344fb

[low phoenix]

Looks better

Stealth rock over spikes if you’re only gonna use 1 hazard imo

Or just slot stealth rock on tusk and spikes on gliscor

You can give gliscor knock off over toxic if you want an additional knocker

Wait

Since u have no fairy resist you should add moltres

Over gliscor

And just slot rocks on tusk

[cedar jay]

https://pokepast.es/50fbf5d893c0f098

Ah ok I'll put rocks

[low phoenix]

Make molt Tera grass

Then you should be good

[cedar jay]

I know you mean well but why wouldn't that make him weak

I still did it tho

[low phoenix]

Wogerpon check

Moltres doesn’t use Tera offensively

[cedar jay]

Ah makes sense

Tanking those water and electric types

[low phoenix]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2504697278

Something like this

[cedar jay]

Neat to see it in action

[light turtle]

I have literally never touched an OU format before

https://pokepast.es/cc0c9d6ac6d121d8

How stinky doodoo is my team?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[final relic]

its a good starting idea for a fat team but you cant remove on ghold whatsoever

• double rocks isnt great

[light turtle]

Ah

Fair enough

What suggestions do you propose?

Like swapping out Rocks on Landorus?

I was also thinking doubling up on steel types might be bad but I did that with the idea of holding onto Kingambit for most of the match

[final relic]

tbh i would say just run blimax team it shares 3 of the mons and has the overall same gameplan

https://pokepast.es/2049ae839df69072

this has been good for most of sv

[light turtle]

Does it have Kingambit?

It does not : (

[final relic]

corvi kingambit isnt really bad in terms of type overlap

mainly cause these mons do 2 entirely different things

but generally for bulky teams like this something you want to add to the checklist when building is a) can it beat waterpon b) do i have removal that works vs ghold

usually thats cinderace or weezing

[light turtle]

Got it

Ill try to restructure the team, but I'll definitely keep that Blimax team as a backup team

Thank you for your help

[tender lark]

https://pokepast.es/37fa0867e75016df wanted to make a ceruledge team, unsure about the bolt, thinking of primarina instead but idk

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[alpine furnace]

Originally wanted to go double turn with sciz and ogerpon both being pivots but found it difficult to make that work with bulky offense/balance.

Decided on this instead. https://pokepast.es/8dca46d48a734eb2

Alomomola just saved me from a +1 iron moth

[alpine furnace]

My only potential concern is if I lack a proper stall breaker but with hex pult and 1/8 crit cudgel I may be okay

Plus knock off scizor as our toxic absorber

[regal ginkgo]

Hey @fallen hatch, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9ubers team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059901370477576272 instead.

[fallen hatch]

im so stupid oh my god

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/269b0e3e5e21fc9f

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[clever rover]

https://pokepast.es/1d48fc0501d22e4b

long time no see, OU.

Main mon to build around is metal coat ghold + sth like sd ogerpon of any forme

I wanna trivialize stall before doing anything else

[jade cedar]

forget the evs on bolt

[jade cedar]

also other then bp scizor the team feels slow especialy when you don't have thundeclap on bolt

[clever rover]

True that

[blazing swallow]

https://pokepast.es/3ba947c391701be8 rate this slither wing bulky team

[rapid barn]

its like, a bad stall team

[round portal]

Ceruledge double removal ghost spam https://pokepast.es/5d23cd5600240a87

[blazing swallow]

what could i fix

[flat jackal]

https://pokepast.es/835d89228a36ab97

Gterrain with scarf serperior

[north nimbus]

Icl this team would be a lot better without the slithering wing, it desperately also wants speed control and a more immediate breaker then just apple being the sole one

[blazing swallow]

could i add like pult or gambit for priority

[north nimbus]

Zama makes more sense still gives u a solid breaker, speed control, much needed phaser, and relieves stress from Corv checking things like gambit and woger

Also mg clef is better here tbh

Lastly boots on gking and chilly reception would help a lot just for additional momentum

[flat jackal]

I might have some trouble dealing with fire types

[north nimbus]

This team looks fun what seems to be the issue

[flat jackal]

I had some trouble dealing with hazards

usually find my team overwhelmed by rocks and moltres

Other than that it's going pretty smooth

[north nimbus]

Something like great tusk def can help with hazard control with hatt to ensure hazards are off consistently

[flat jackal]

Mhm true

[north nimbus]

Could do it over lucha and can make this grassy seed hatt and give u a strong wincon thats hard to beat

Also I would add glare and knock on serp it being Tera reliant to make progresses is kinda wack especially when u wanna be able to Tera any Mon whenever

[flat jackal]

I see

Got it

Which tusk set do u think will fit here?

[north nimbus]

Bu booster

[flat jackal]

Great!

Thank you for the advices

[alpine furnace]

debating on using primarina > alomomola

[tacit bluff]

Some things I don't love here, you seem a bit vulnerable to Kingambit tbh especially with the offensive tera on ceruledge combined with the fact that ur only other big offensive mon is dragapult which gets walled by similar things it feels a tad suspect

Wellspring also feels like a problem (as it tends to be) you do have a couple tera options to help but I'd play very carefully to preserve said tera for those mons and that can sometimes be a tall task

[tender lark]

https://pokepast.es/8622f88a445a5163 ceruledge team anything i should change?

[regal ginkgo]

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[tacit bluff]

This is fine, be careful of opposing knock off since nothing on this team is a great absorber

[gritty lake]

Wouldn't bu ceru be better here

[viscid falcon]

Guys what do you think of my first ever comp team and do you have any tips?

[main egret]

So uhh my first team i ever built in this generation i just kept playing only changing the stats and set of my mon. Rn im at 1800 with this. Please rate the team thxxxx

https://pokepast.es/63fa0a0432678094

The team is centered around tera flying thundy therian and hoodra(theyre one of my fav mons)

I wanted for him to be just a nuke button so hes specs. Grass knot allows tinglu 2 hit ko and garganacl ohko. Tera blast ohkoes almost every single ground type trying to switch in thinking in gonna volt switch. Only ones that dont are ting lu and iron treads. Ting lu usually is a 3hit ko from tera blast and it cant do anything back so it gets whittled down.
Gliscor is ohko usually or takes 80%ish. And for treads there is mr alola

Defensive cindy tanks band tera bug first impression from lowkix and tanks cc from zama and allows a burn vs almost every phy attacker with will o wisp. Hes evd to outspeed waterpon. I didnt ev him to outspeed valiant tho cus i usually have a goodmatchup against that. Court change helos ofc. But i dont run hazard removers with spin or defog cus 2 of my mons hold heavy duty boots anyway and the others dont mind other than thundy. I like slightly slow defensive cindy a lot cus its strong enough to deal good dmg to waterpon but also it underspeeds other cinderace while they u turn allowing me a safe switch to thundy

Hoodra is just omega tank special side. Has eq to get sneaky kills on iron moth and heatran. Its lvl 99 and min spees to underspeed flip turn prim. I dunni calcs for the sp attack but it does almost 80% to tusk with draco so it usually kills on the switch in. Blast helps with gholdhengo matchup. With alola wish support it covers hoodras main weakness of no healing

Alola is just a regular wish set. But i like alluring voice instead of tickle for gambling. Also lvl 99 to underspeed other alola

Meow is the usual stuff also. But i sometimes use flower trick instead of taxel cus people are afraid of the taxel anyway so they switch out tornadus for example while i lead meow cus theyre afraid of it. So i get the benefits of the move withiut even having it

The team heavily struggled eith setup so unaware clef is last mon. T wave with 80 speed allows to outspeed ans sub para stall out waterpon after a t wave. The rest on hp and defense

The two main scary mons to go against from the insane time ive spent on this teamm is dealing with trick room ursaluna teams. And rillaboom band teams. Also tera fire kingambit if its alr setup cus i cant burn it with cindy

Sorry for the holy yap

[limber spear]

(evs have to be a multiply of 4 if lv 100 or a multiple of 2 if lv 50 in order to increase 1 stat point ) (referring to ace)

[main egret]

Oh i have an extra on speed

Btw what tera type do i run on my defensive ace?

And also for meow

For ace i usually just use tera flying cus of dnite earthquake to burn it and scarf/spec enamorus using earth power against web teams so i can court change the webs away

[limber spear]

eh the bulkier spread is like 32 in att /max speed/rest in hp

u rlly want to be fast on ace as that’s one of its selling points

speed can be lowered to 365 if u want just to be faster than neutral ival and slow pivot on opposing aces

should go flower trick> low kick ngl

personally would go tickle or scald >all voice on mola and get pyro ball > sucker on ace while maybe make hoodra lv 100 and go hslam>flash cannon and maybe go knock > eq/fire blast while unaware clef always wants boots and dump that 80 speed in def while making it cm/moonlight/moonblast/knock or wave instead

besides that sets uh i would argue mono ace removal is kinda too weak to support a “volt turn core” esp when one of them is weak to rocks while like hoodra would also want to enter with out spikes to ensure further longevity

felt like unaware clef and hoodra aren’t the best options here as volt turns r mainly bo structuress(?)

there is also no hazard in this team

[main egret]

Theres not really any mon to outspeed that us below i val speed but above woger speed. Atleast from what i see. So the speed seems okay. Plus living a tera bug band lowlix first impression and also a better matchup against rillaboom seems like good no?

Or should i invest to outspeed ival?

Ival really doesnt do anything to the tean tho

Clef ohkoes and so does thundy

[limber spear]

u kinda want the speed

and dumping into hp makes it effective on both sides while can somewhat improve fairy mu

[main egret]

I mean is there a mon worth outspeeding in that range?

[main egret]

I might fo that

[limber spear]

364-370?

or 350-364

[main egret]

Like swap defense and hp numbers and then have barely enough def to survive the lowlix

[main egret]

This

[limber spear]

not rlly

[main egret]

All i see is woger tbh

So i go one above it

[nocturne sable]

I’m pretty sure it’s a multiple of 8 for lvl 50 no?

[limber spear]

oh wait 😭 right

[limber spear]

there is serp but it’s uncommon

[limber spear]

other mons r fake so yeah

[main egret]

The hoodra stuff i wanna try out too

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/a75f2c2e9e749e73 i got this shit but like 😭 😭

[main egret]

Knock off seems intresting

But i dont wanna lose fire blast and or eq

Both help me so much

[limber spear]

u can run knock less it’s fine i think

[main egret]

Expecially against stuff like gholdengo 1v1 or a tread switchin

[limber spear]

most of the time ice beam is better than eq imo

but with eq it can stall break(ok not rlly but

[main egret]

Iron moth and heatran kinda destroy me without eq tho

[limber spear]

prolly just keep it then

[main egret]

And snagging kills on i moth is nice cus peoole usually almost never switch out after getting the plus special attack boost from fiery dance

[main egret]

Isnt lowkick goated for stuff like treads and kingambit

Mainly just gambit tho

[nocturne sable]

I will admit this is well thought out for a first time build. Even if the sets aren’t the most optimal

[main egret]

Made this team with the mons all the way at 1100. But the stats and sets were all different

[limber spear]

the meow thund and hoodra r fine

[main egret]

I just went with 6 mons i love

Then started fiddlint

Without changing them

[limber spear]

hoodra seems like those mons i would use in the end to compress a woger check kyurem check and a “ghost resist” in one ngl

[nocturne sable]

Makes sense. Testing on ladder and then finding out what you want to do with the 6 mons & switching around the sets is a way to learn how to teambuild

[main egret]

Sub + twave allows me to sub stall a LOT of mons as a last ditch effort. Plus when i swap into stuff like dnite they usually just decide to swapm so sub there allows me to choose t wave after against like a iron moth switchin for example

And i like the 80 speed as usually if a woger gets a sd alr. Then im forced to go clef but u cant outheal him cus he csn just get a crit with the ivy cudgels high crit chance

But with t wave the chance of para is much higher than rhe chance of crit

So i can reliable stall out woger and any lower speed mon with sub lefties

[limber spear]

was hoodra not sturdy enough

never tried hoodra myself

[main egret]

After sd? Hoodra is like a e hit ko

But draco doesnt kill

[limber spear]

no hazard to pressure woger sounds annoying

[main egret]

And if they have spikes up

I get 2 hit koed

[limber spear]

dtail is a possible substitute

[main egret]

Ohh ive been told that before. I wanna try that out too

[limber spear]

i need to sleep if u don’t mind u can find quaqrash

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[limber spear]

yeah phazing is nice but u don’t hazards

[main egret]

Especially it allows me a pecha/sinistcha/sinistea sweep answer for when thundy is dead cus hes my only counter to pecha and sinistea

[main egret]

Whats quagrash

[limber spear]

this

[main egret]

Oh

[limber spear]

he is very pro

[main egret]

Sure

Btw what tera for meow

Ghost seems like a good idea

Poison i like for other poisoms and fightings

Plus enamorus kill
For when they moonblast

[nocturne sable]

Tera poison makes sense for scarf enam & still resist fighting so I don’t really see a need to change that

[main egret]

Ok

Sry im back

[nocturne sable]

But you would probably want to switch the Tera types on your other mons. Hoodra should probably be Tera fairy if it’s AV to resist fighting moves l& Draco meteors.

Tbh the one main weakness of your team is hazards I think. Especially since you have non boots unaware clefable, Hoodra, & thundy, a lot of hazard weak mons and your only removal is cinderace. Which cinderace is not a bad hazard control but given your team the opponent will probably not care that you’re court changing & set up back stealth rocks since it’s worse for you than its worst for them.

[main egret]

Is there a way i can survive plus 2 sucker max ability from the gambit

With meoe

Like how much hp/defense invest id need for that

[main egret]

Wait why havent i thought of tera fairy before

I put tera flying for when i used to have magic guard clef which wasnt that good of a dnite counter. So when there was a like a alr set up dnite with its multiscale broken with race for examole. I could tera flying on eq to kill with draco mrteor

But now that im unaware i dint need it anymore

[main egret]

The second one i do consider but i dont wanna change my mons. And that would require a revamp to my team

I dunno what i should do for that tbh

Also there is a kinda big glaring weakness for my team. And its that thundy is a massive tera hog. Like 99% of my games i just tera flying and if i have any good lead matchup even turn 1 i hit the tera flying tera blast

While it does work amazing for most of the time. Sometimes ill meet stuff like banded rilla or iron defense zama but with heavy slam

Which i cant really wall without tera

And if its a pecharunt/sinistcha/ting lu team im forced to tera flying no matter what

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/269b0e3e5e21fc9f

[regal ginkgo]

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[nocturne sable]

I would replace clefable tbh. Unaware is nice but other utility can be used here. Great tusk is a good addition here. Gives you additional hazard control, a stealth rock user & gives you a ground type that can actually face a raging bolt. Also helps a bit with the kingambit matchup as a short term check, especially with Tera fire kingambit. I would make great tusk the usual Tera steel here for stuff like rilla.

You can also go like dark pulse>>knock if you want to hit stuff like glowking, pech, sini, etc for super effective(although volt switch should chip them pretty hard). Also I would just make cinderace pyro ball here over sucker punch non pyro ball Cinderace is kinda wack. Also I can see Tera ghost Cinderace working here for a zamazenta or something.

I also would experiment with trick meow here. Trick scarf is a decent Strat to stop set up users like kingambit, Dnite, etc from sweeping your team.

You can also experiment with rotom wash over alomomola. Rotom also has utility like trick, will o wisp, foul play, etc which can free up your cinderace to be more offensive kinda. Rotom also has levitate which still allows you to switch into great tusk freely and is generally a good zama check

[main egret]

Ok these are all for the testing list ideas thx

Btw i dont know how to do teambuilder calcs

Whats the most amount of hp and the min amout of defense i need to survive banded tera bug lowkix with the 312 ev points i have left for cindy

[nocturne sable]

I think with optimized evs the best you can survive(given you’re running max speed) is making banded Lokix a low chance to 0hko

[main egret]

Im running 196+ on speed

But uhh i learnt how to do calcs

From what i understand

If i have like 212 hp and 100 def theres like a 12.5% chanxe dor me to die

Which is pretty good

I survive 87.5% of the time

[nocturne sable]

You can guarantee survive a Lokix first impression from full health if you run like max def with the rest dumped in hp

[main egret]

I can also run 170 hp and 142 def for like a 6% chance to die

[main egret]

Mhm but i wanna try to optimize for hp to deal with enamorus moonblasts or other special attacks better

Just a tiny optimization

[main egret]

This seems like a perfect middle ground

Now i gotta check if this also survives cc from zama

[nocturne sable]

Those are not numbers divisible by 4 bro

[main egret]

252 Atk Choice Band Zamazenta Close Combat vs. 170 HP / 132 Def Cinderace: 298-352 (86.8 - 102.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

Holy it survives very well

[main egret]

Oh lmfao

Lemme fix it rq

[nocturne sable]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tinted Lens Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 168 HP / 132 Def Cinderace: 294-348 (85.7 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Possible damage amounts: (294, 298, 302, 306, 308, 312, 316, 320, 322, 326, 330, 334, 336, 340, 344, 348)

[nocturne sable]

Think if you’re not optim for max speed it should at least be 358 minimum to outspeed stuff like serperior

[main egret]

168 and 144 muxh better

[main egret]

Serp i only see once like every 20 matches nowadays

[main egret]

I actually miscounted and can add 10 extra evs

So now im 168 hp 144 def ans 196+ speed

252 Atk Choice Band Zamazenta Close Combat vs. 168 HP / 144 Def Cinderace: 295-348 (86 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Holy even band only kills 12.5% of the time

I can survive lorb stone edge also

Btw can tera buff my meow non typing stab

Cus protein?

Like for example
If i tera grass flower trick i get tera boost + stab boost

But if i go tera ice taxel will protein first happen and then i get tera so i get both tera boost and stab boost
Or
Will tera happen first and since im alr ice type the protein doesnt occur and i only get tera boost

[main egret]

Ill do this tho cus losing only 12 point of evs dont matter elsewhere that much

Ok uhh i wanna do another calc but this seems genuinely impossible to calc

Do i survive a banded rillaboom woodhammer on the switch in into me healing a little from grass terrain. And then after i will o wisp do i survive the second woodhammer

[alpine furnace]

https://pokepast.es/c8c3e61287e5639f should I run primarina > alomomola? I can see either side with prim being more threatening to bulky walls and trapping special attackers with whirlpool but I can also see alomomola's ability to outright ko every special attacker it can take a hit from.

[main egret]

Isnt raging bolt a big problem for your team if you dont go prim?

Like with tera fairy bolt kinda pulls this team apart

[main egret]

Id say go prim

[alpine furnace]

AV prim then?

[alpine furnace]

If it teras before sciz faints then we just bullet punch and deal like 70% and even if it does unless its specs alomomola threatens it relatively will with mirror coat

[main egret]

True i kinda forgot av mola kinda does tank very well

Even draco or volt switches it should tank good enough

[alpine furnace]

Ye if it doesnt ohko its banished to the shadow realm

[main egret]

I do wonder if they can v switch to a dark type in their teams

I do this commonly

[alpine furnace]

If it dracos on the alo switch then i just swap out to tusk for free rocks.

[main egret]

Where i volt switch against av molas and then swap to meow

But i think its too niche of a situation to care about

[alpine furnace]

I mean that could be dangerous for me but scizor threatens a ko if you dont swap again and knock if you do.

I might make another variant of this team with prim > alo tho.

Then maybe glowking as well just to compare the three special walls.

[main egret]

Id say just use make the other version and play like 20 games with it

See how well it fares

[alpine furnace]

I can say it is harder to get SD set with ogerpon than I thought. Most times I just find myself using ogerpon to force a switch or threaten a ko. Makes me wonder if I just wanna run the pivot spikes set or keep SD.

Cuz the spikes pivot sets spikes for free on like every rock/spike setter except garchomp rn.

And tinkaton

[round rover]

Boots Tusk makes more sense here since you dont have a Poison type and you are likely to activate Glimmora's TSpikes

You also already have Helmet Corvi to punish Gambit a bit

idt this being Prima or Mola changes your Bolt mu very much, if anything Tera Mola will be better against Specs Bolt long term

SD Pon or 4 atks is fine, Idt you can use any other set without autolosing to stall

[main egret]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9ou-2505677286-jswgyt0nndlldar7nsdkwyqg9la87xppw

Intresting thing is

Due to the fact that i have like 4 pivot mons

If i dont let hazards get setup

It usually turns into just pivot move spam which is super coolio

Especially when its dedicated hazard leads like glim or deoxys who setup hazards and die. Once theyre dead i can change the court and then just force opponents to switch as i pivot with pivot moves

[alpine furnace]

Hmmm would encore ogerpon work or does that also lose to stall.

[round rover]

It loses

Perhaps like tera steel Pult can be used to help vs Pex but without Spikes you wont be able to pressure it very well with Power Whip less Pon

[alpine furnace]

And what about spikes pivot pon? And I dont doubt 4 attacks or SD, I am just reviewing options.

[round rover]

Uturn Pon + Steel Pult at least makes it the playable I think, but ye

That can put fine pressure though Corvi also gets to Defog so not sure

Those Pon sets also have that thing where Wish Mola + GWeezing just hard walls them

[alpine furnace]

Gotcha, gotcha. And SD can punish rapid spin or defog (though with BB it may be risky) and 4 attacks with knock off punishes swaps and has a 1/8 chance to delete corv.

[round rover]

Idk I think SD is fine so long as you are aware you just have to click your moves sometimes, rather than setup all the time

[alpine furnace]

Ye with hazard setup sometimes you just gotta go tera water and start trying to delete mons.

Especially against roar mons like zamazenta or eject mons like hatterene who can take a hit and force you out.

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/f39376840cde0b58 is this good?

[round rover]

It looks fine to me. I would prob still do Stealth Rock over Edge on Lando but if Moltres is being annoying then sure

[jade cedar]

I did struggle with moltres ye, with ace I just thought that rocks aren't that neccesery, most team do have rocks anyway so I can simply switch it on them

[round rover]

Yeah that seems fine

Has Bug Ace being helpful?

Seems like a cool middle ground to resist BPress and Dniites Eq in an emergency

Ive seen Bug Lando but cant say I have seen Bug Ace

[inner terrace]

oops

ive seen grass ace but not bug yeah

and good for uturn

[round rover]

Libero at home

[inner terrace]

if the gambit matchup is hard you can also consider low kick gambit

[jade cedar]

haven't really struggled with it, wisp and lando usually made it hard for any gambit to safely enter

[solar sundial]

https://pokepast.es/d584e5fe8d22ca15 pretty sure this is a fairly standard team but still wanna know if theres stuff to improve on

[inner terrace]

if you want to be real annoying btw you can run some shit like sub roar kyurem

to pair with future sight

cause kyu + fsight baits in steels

[jade cedar]

roar instead of protect?

[inner terrace]

yeah

not needed but

could be cool

[solar sundial]

Bug ace is just so you can spam u-turn

[jade cedar]

I'll make another copy of this and test with this set

[inner terrace]

it's good for grounds too

ppl run flying ace a lot

[solar sundial]

Yeah

Also bulky fairy tblast gambit is definitely my favorite set

By far

[jade cedar]

I would've gone with flying actually if there isn't a mon that has stab priority electric, you know who are we talking about

[solar sundial]

AV alo as my special wall feels like slight cope here but i didnt want a ground weak mon

[inner terrace]

yeah but personally im like ace is never really good vs bolt so id rather have it for like eq nite or smth

bulk up tusk

shit like that

[jade cedar]

btw is the stall match up good? I haven't really run to one so I wanna be sure

[inner terrace]

not good but playable

you can def beat most stallers

just have to play to apply as much pressure as possible

roar is prolly a bit better since you can fish for like weez or pex to take an fsight

or smth

[inner terrace]

probably fine

[jade cedar]

so pretty much just needs good play?

[inner terrace]

yeah probably

against good stallers it'll be difficult to win but vs most you can catch them probably

[solar sundial]

Cool

I will say ive warmed up to court change + wisp on cinder

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/3358b7b6c4b50f01

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[errant vale]

Gen 5 nostalgia

[solar sundial]

This is deadass just a gen 5 team

[royal tendon]

https://pokepast.es/7b01c68f18aeda12

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[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/af4a6b2e93d9a115

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[languid tendon]

Im very very late but this is a good (ceruledge) team in 1800 from a friend who peaked 7 with this team https://pokepast.es/b51b60bb07da7763

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/449195fc2dbbad0f the team is built around manaphy

[nocturne sable]

Probably make Glimmora>lokix & just make tusk BU tusk here

[jade cedar]

lokix was more or less for woger, encore sets are really annoying

[nocturne sable]

Also might probably want a little speed here so maybe make tusk speed booster tusk or make enam agility as well

Idk how greedy agility is but it’s worth trying out

Or you can probably just make enam a dragonite tbh

[jade cedar]

agility instead of sub?

[nocturne sable]

Yea

[jade cedar]

idk feels kinda situational

[nocturne sable]

Dnite is a decent alternative

[jade cedar]

actually ye, I don't wanna overlap with special attackers

[jade cedar]

Also what set I should use for it?

[nocturne sable]

Idk that’s something for you to test out but you can start with the regular tblast flying/fairy

[jade cedar]

Ig I'll stick with tblast flying for woger

[rough fog]

https://pokepast.es/ab5a963ac440484a

Thoughts?

[nocturne sable]

Ngl this team gets farmed by hazards you’re better off making Gliscor a landorus-t or something with rocks.

I would also make darkrai scarf trick here. Great tusk can also be boots max speed you don’t really need AV when you have spdef heatran.

Wish clef isn’t the worst idea. Although I would make it Tera steel here for kyurem. & I would probably drop ice beam for protect. Maybe make it magic guard too to improve the hazard MU.

LO pult is fine… but like you probably want shadow ball>>hex for more consistent damage. Banded pult looks pretty interesting here too I would recommend at least testing it.

Although I can understand banded pult being too much of a Tera hog, it’s worth experimenting with.

[rough fog]

Boots tusk is def the move after a couple test games, I also like clef steel

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/ef6ff092b62009cc

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[nocturne sable]

Eeeh you’re better off just building this team around Cornerstone LO metagross is kinda mid & scarf wake is completely garbage

[mental steeple]

https://pokepast.es/70da570c41517116

never built a team before I took inspiration off of some other teams I've seen

[blazing juniper]

https://pokepast.es/dcb87db195e9109c

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[echo rampart]

balloon on sdef tran seems unnecessary

u dont get mileage out of ur bulk bc no lefties

and u dont get mileage out of balloon bc ur not offensive

u have corv and waterpon for grounds anyway

I'd also just make kyurem sub protect w lefties tbh

if u going for some kinda pressure stall joint

https://pokepast.es/f9d1cd5659047bbe i have a similar-ish team

[blazing juniper]

I was thinking with balloon being an easily loseable item i can have it popped on purpose and hard stall ceru while also being able to come in after a setup dnite kills something and do some serious chip bc no one atk is killing balloon tran

[echo rampart]

i mean u can still run offensive tran

u have garg anyway

both of which lose to cc ceruledge regardless

[blazing juniper]

I think you right

[blazing juniper]

True, unless i run tera ghost
Idk if it's good or not tho

[echo rampart]

tera ghost valid for sure

can block rapid spin in a pinch and check zama in a pinch

[blazing juniper]

Fr? Pog

I'll make it offensive and tera ghost

Thanks

[echo rampart]

np

[blazing juniper]

the idef brave bird no press corv is intentional right?

[echo rampart]

yeah

you 1v1 gambit anyway

that's all its rlly for

[torpid pasture]

https://pokepast.es/8b37f3a713c5dea7

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[torpid pasture]

Here we go again.

Soooo, rain team. That's it. Just (not so) good and old rain.

[north nimbus]

Gambit > scizor (gives u a real ghost resist that complements with rain) , ice spinner > knock of treads and knock > ice beam on pelipper, also make it Tera ground , eq > hh on treads, and alluring voice > ice beam on mana u hit more stuff with it , everything else looks straight forward

[mental steeple]

I played this exact team just with slightly different move sets yesterday and it has a lot of weaknesses

Tbf slight bias as I had a team that checks it pretty well

[cold cosmos]

electro wizardbro

not electric

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/c8235ecb603b76c8 is this good?

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[wooden mountain]

Booster Val in a balance?

[jade cedar]

wanted some speed control

[wooden mountain]

Booster energy isn’t good in balance because it’s one time value

It’s why it’s used in offense and HO

[limber spear]

ground immune 🙁 like there isn’t even a resist + annoying pon mu but ig tickle mola+ water garg can do smth

[limber spear]

i mean there is a pult

smth with high speed is always ig

maybe torn> ival can do smth

[jade cedar]

scarfers are everywhere

[limber spear]

should be fine tho

u don’t need to win against all scarfer

pult being the fastest in the tier is an amazing speed control for like balance

[jade cedar]

AV torn?

[limber spear]

tho secondary speed control is fine

[limber spear]

idk prolly all 3 sets work imo

[jade cedar]

I'm leaning to it since the team doesn't have a special tank

[limber spear]

prolly yeah

how about pon mu

garg + pult can do with but it’s mola

[jade cedar]

pult burns and deletes the problem entirely

[limber spear]

but what if it comes in on mola

u gotta predict / pray they don’t knock/prough

[jade cedar]

good play can solve the problem, as long as you have a strictly faster mon then pon and can threaten it I don't think pon is a problem

[limber spear]

if if u can play around it then

and fairy mu looks annoying

(and prolly a bit of gambit but helmet tusk

[jade cedar]

maybe switch gambit with sd scizor?

[limber spear]

just feels annoying cuz that mon is rlly common and insane

the team is kinda passive and

has mola so inviting it in is common

just not sure how well garg takes from p whip/tickled w whip

[limber spear]

prolly yeah

[jade cedar]

I mean if it's really that bad I can switch mola for something else

[north nimbus]

Do gking > mola, and dnite > val, make this rocks garg and do knock on tusk, make this bulky sd gambit, and would make this cb pult ( you don’t have enough status tbh to capitalize on hex and u want an immediate breaker)

[lime raptor]

https://pokepast.es/c9afb61528264d67 leech life slither wing sun

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/e30c97d44d2ea56e is this actually good? I feel like it's not

[nocturne sable]

I don’t see the value of leech life over U-turn. I feel like the momentum U-turn offs is very important

• one of AV slither wings job is to be a pivot

Alongside being a strong attacker & revenge killer

[nocturne sable]

This looks super standard

[jade cedar]

really 😅?, was kinda just messing around with stuff, is the stall mu playable?

[nocturne sable]

Uuuh you can PP stall with your own corv & subtect kyurem. There is also hex pult which can put decent pressure if you keep it healthy and spread status effectively. And if corv goes down rilla is pretty threatening if it’s the sole flying. Yea it’s winnable

+fsight support helps. You definitely have some tools there in that regard

[jade cedar]

also toxic to wear down fat mons

[nocturne sable]

Yup. Although pex & Scor can switch in to absorb toxic which is really annoying but it’s fine

[jade cedar]

pex won't stay for long on a future sight and scor isn't that big of a problem, two mons that can face it will outspeed and burn or kyu just destroys it

[torpid pasture]

The band is eletric wizard! ! !

[torpid pasture]

Okayyyy, thanks for the information! ! !

[cold cosmos]

oh

fair

[ivory crater]

built this around life orb greninja for a friend

https://pokepast.es/ebe7e7243237e64d

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[ivory crater]

not sure if its ass or if i actually cooked here, still iffy about tera blast scarf lando but i really enjoy that strat

[nocturne sable]

Fairly standard, although non dark pulse is rough of Greninja cuz you miss out on hitting stuff like Ghold & slowking. I understand wanting to Punish something like woger with sludge wave but you already have a decent amount of speed control options & dark pulse should 2hko non Tera woger. Even if it Tera’s you can take advantage of that with your scarf Lando.

Btw not a big fan of the lack of ways to punish contact moves U-turn looks pretty free into your team. I suggest experimenting with sticky barb/rocky helmet clef to at least have something for that

[ivory crater]

forgot thats an older version of the team, i did update it with dark pulse on gren since then.

i did end up adding barb to clef like you said

it seems to be doing pretty well on ladder but has trouble with gambit, once it swords dances the game gets really hard.

any edits i could make to help remedy that?

[nocturne sable]

I think it’s good enough to keep running for now

Maybe will o wisp ace can help with the gambit mu but outside of that it’s fine tbh

[errant vale]

https://pokepast.es/6997840f5d4650df the ogerpon w mu is so terrible its insane]

what would u suggest

thinking of adding pecha

[limber spear]

is going dnite> keld a better play

[errant vale]

nah

cuz its a keld team

ruins point

like everything besides oger mu is good honestly

[limber spear]

i don’t think cm keld is that good but u would need a knocker and flyer here and kyurem should be fine as a pin check

isn’t like kyurem + hazard fine

[errant vale]

yea

think making the team more offensive might work

but idk who to drop

[errant vale]

new team

idk might also be buns

[errant vale]

https://pokepast.es/b04076703224d504

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[tacit bluff]

There just isn't a wincon here

[errant vale]

yea

its ass

was keldeo w calm mind

but unsure if i do

[tacit bluff]

Ogerpon alsp looks really threatening here

Btw fix tera types n whatnot

[errant vale]

i forgot to

[tacit bluff]

Like tera water gliscor etc

[errant vale]

sleepy

[tacit bluff]

Nw just pointing it out

Happens

[errant vale]

honestly keld is good but very hard to use w ogerpon around

it matches up well for weeks ive been trying to make it work

[tacit bluff]

Keldeo isn't like

Unviable

Tbf

Haven't built with it myself

It can defo work

[errant vale]

im thinking of calm mind wincon set

w hazard stack

but idk what to pair offensive

[tacit bluff]

I honestly think I like this set more

Icy wind is an option btw

[errant vale]

it hits like a pillow

[tacit bluff]

Makes life annoying for goobers like darkrai tryna switch in

[errant vale]

like id rather resist

atp

[errant vale]

vw and ss and surf are locked

its either i wanna pivot with flip

or set up

if im buidling around it maybe set up wincon but idk

needs a lot

[tacit bluff]

You can do cm but as a main wincon keldeo has a lot of stumbling blocks unfort

[errant vale]

yea

i might pair w alo

[tacit bluff]

I said icy wind because it lets you jump things that outspeed and also stops dnite from setting up for free

[errant vale]

wish and healing wish seems good

early calm mind breaking then wish up

[tacit bluff]

You could? Amplifies the ogerpon problem tho

[errant vale]

yea...

[tacit bluff]

And makes raging bolt pretty bad too

[errant vale]

ogerpon well is so annoying

what acually checks bro

like consistently

[tacit bluff]

Nice joke

[errant vale]

pecha is good but crit and its over

[tacit bluff]

(The answer is nothing)

Ogerpon has checks once you know what the bastard is running but otherwise gl

[errant vale]

keldo can kill it with vw if below 20 i belive

[tacit bluff]

If it's not knock off pecha can pseudo check

[errant vale]

4 attack is easy

but sd is bad

like sd just wins vs all keld teams ive made

[tacit bluff]

If you want something that can check every ogerpon you gotta dumpster dive and pick up vileplume 😭

Which I do not reccomend

[errant vale]

💔

lets try pecha

[tacit bluff]

Shocker vileplume is garbo

Pecha is fine

Tinkaton can also make it's life worse

[errant vale]

lu or glisc

[tacit bluff]

I prefer lu here

[errant vale]

half of it is good

[tacit bluff]

Yeah I'm just tryna see what else would go well

I'm out rn

So when I get back home in like

2 hours 💀

I'll look at it again

[errant vale]

alr

i wanna make keld work and get decent ladder

highest ive gotten is 1500+

[icy ravine]

could anyone give me some good advice? on this team sort of a hazard stack https://pokepast.es/6ed80756a5c973ab

[autumn hare]

You need more knockers

[stable nymph]

You need at least one knock user on every team

[toxic smelt]

https://pokepast.es/48c5031a6949e1bf
no removal hstack offense. Not willing to drop moltres, can drop anything else.

[regal ginkgo]

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[ivory crater]

i’m not really a teambuilding god but you might want to find a way to improve your matchup into opposing fairy types

moltres is the only resist and 4 guys are weak

something like iron valiant might be hard to deal with

and magic guard clefable can freely switch in on a lot

[jade cedar]

rebar is kinda right most of your team is weak to fairy and the only resist is ONLY on the physical side, switch vall with something like offensive iron moth this pretty much shut down any incoming moonblasts

[ivory crater]

also primarina

[quartz lark]

This team is fine. Doesn't really care about fairies icl.

Heavy Slam Zama for unboosted fairies. Ting-Lu for boosted fairies. Moltres for booster energy Iron Valiant, which typically doesn't carry Thunderbolt. Samu-Hisuian alone draws in Clefable, which you just abuse with free spikes on Ceaseless Edge. Bulky Primarina can be an issue here, but you have Ting-Lu in the back to phaze it before it becomes annoying.

[toxic smelt]

that's fair
I'm usually just using moltres against them because I also have poison sanurott

but the main issue I'm facing is strong water types

my only resist is a samurott

I do have grass moltres tho

[quartz lark]

Especially when said waters are mostly paired with a tusk to punish that tera grass. Well, just something you have to deal with, which should be fairly workable imo.

[topaz pivot]

Been having a lot of fun with Specs moth. What do we think? https://pokepast.es/db490ff50ce67d04

[jade cedar]

3 ground weak mons and no flying type? rilla won't cut it on it's own

[topaz pivot]

What do you recommend to alleviate the problem?

[jade cedar]

you really need flying type to help with ground problem

[jade cedar]

scarf enam instead of pult maybe since you don't really have a lot of chances to click hex when you're the only status spreader, although I don't like that half the team being choice locked but you need to it to cover the speed control pult naturally has.

[topaz pivot]

Honestly, ground types haven’t been that big an issue so far

Tusk is nearly never an issue when it gets OHKOed by Moth

Same with treads

[jade cedar]

still a bit concerning since nothing really on your team can safely switch on a headlong rush even rilla won't survive it if it's been chipped

[topaz pivot]

That’s reasonable, but I don’t think a scarfer is a good idea because like you mentioned, half the team being choice locked isn’t good

Pult was recommended because of its natural speed

[jade cedar]

then just try to switch something here with a flying type, maybe g-slowking with av torn

[topaz pivot]

Alrighty then, I’ll give it a shot

[low aspen]

https://pokepast.es/f0a74c265fecfd77

[regal ginkgo]

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[blazing juniper]

https://pokepast.es/db859f2b49634f44

[jaunty raft]

U-turn is bad on sd oger

Body Press is bad on kyurem

[limber spear]

i mean bp can be used on av kyurem iirc but yeah not on subtect and u want tera ground

prolly u need a kyurem check here and perhaps u can drop defog on corv

[lime raptor]

https://pokepast.es/8e9343eb318e0e71 looking for a way to change the dragonite and darkrai sets to shift it towrds balance or maybe just replcing darkrai

maybe like this ? https://pokepast.es/6245c2b848e1a8d9

[regal ginkgo]

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[low phoenix]

just use the sample team this team is based on

[astral flame]

https://pokepast.es/51e739510724016f

I am making team for bulk up great tusk

[regal ginkgo]

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[nocturne sable]

I feel like ting Lu is just a better fit here than Lando. You can make it an offensive set with custap berry or whatever

With payback as dark stab

[astral flame]

That makes sense

what evs stuff do you even put on offensive ting lu

[patent pilot]

https://pokepast.es/6118829d676e668a

This probably sucks

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/becd34c84154be1b phy def glowking with colbur is prolly fine here but i want a better stall mu and that’s also why prima is whirl pool

pult is wisp instead of fthrower cuz i want to cripple lu gambit zama and such and u dont rlly click fthrower much anyways
or it can just be hex pult for better stall mu but no immediate breaking power

ace is off but wisp again to patch gambit and zama and also that’s what idbp corv is for

[regal ginkgo]

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[heady carbon]

Double stab ain't a good choice for ursaluna