what do you do if a ceruledge is sweeping you
#SV OU Rates
quartz stream
neither of your priority moves hit ghost, so if ting lu is chipped you just lose
you would want HDB on dirge
also would think you lose to Val if you're not careful
Rilla doesn't kill with glide and dies if it's chipped, encore can let it beat dirge, and after that you have no revengekilling
carmine oak
also would think you lose to Val if you're not careful
is there a way to fix this
quartz stream
yes, but I'm more of an idea guy 
honestly sometimes the solution is just to test and try swapping out some of the mons, for example for a scarfer, or maybe a scizor
rapid barn
You thought about a utility scizor?
scizor could help with revenge killing things like val, knocking off or defogging
carmine oak
for what slot?
rapid barn
I’d swap out your treads
rapid barn
Scizor gets defog
For some reason your treads have no stealth rocks so idk about that
carmine oak
how do i defog in the face of phys def ghold that is benefitting from my grassy terrain
rapid barn
Tbh
carmine oak
For some reason your treads have no stealth rocks so idk about that
yeah i put it on garg
carmine oak
i tried to go more in the direction of benefitting from longevity
rapid barn
Wogerpon can run stuff like grassy glide for priority
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finite wind
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wooden linden
https://pokepast.es/a3f6052d3046c7b3
hey. looked it over a little and revised the team somewhat
i didn't really see dirge's usage here so pech was smth that i figured would function here. generally solid as a val answer anyways
scarf rai i put on was for extra speed control + natural ghost resist
https://pokepast.es/1c00a2d2592f213a
hi. went over the team and changed some members around
https://pokepast.es/32db74aa68f4db08
hi. made some changes for your team really quickly
faint flame
https://pokepast.es/32db74aa68f4db08
hi. made some changes for your team really ...
Thanks 🙏🏼 can you tell me what went wrong in my team building so I can better myself. If I made too many mistakes to count them all just the major ones
wooden linden
there wasnt too many teambuilding issues but i didn't really like the lack of ground immunity. enamorus helps in that department, so it and rilla can make it a much easier time
i also wanted a bulkier dark type, as it would have to be the main obstacle against ghost types like gholdengo, so kingambit would help as well
faint flame
Thanks buddy testing that out after work
carmine oak
there wasnt too many teambuilding issues but i didn't really like the lack of gr...
theyre like the same teams lol
carmine oak
i didn't really see dirge's usage here so pech was smth that i figured would fun...
do you think there could be something i could squeeze some more value out of than pech? dirge or pult was just a try to have something to kill corv
wooden linden
you could do np pech but tbh youre fine vs corv
wooden linden
yeah like worse case scenario you can just trick corv with rai
you already have specs enam its not like corv walls the entire team
roar zama also helps against the idef variants too
like sure if youre only relying on rilla to break than yeah it sucks but thats one mon
stable nymph
https://pokepast.es/1c00a2d2592f213a
hi. went over the team and changed some mem...
Why Pult over ghold other than the speed
wooden linden
wisp pult helps out against most zama variants
plus it also helps against wellspring
stable nymph
plus it also helps against wellspring
And any potential set changes you thinking about?
wooden linden
the current set is fine for now
carmine oak
yeah like worse case scenario you can just trick corv with rai
do you think its possible to use the core of rilla + fairy + zama + garg + spinner
wooden linden
do you think its possible to use the core of rilla + fairy + zama + garg + spinn...
there is the option of using gseed ghold if you really wanna rely on gterrain
carmine oak
yeah that answers the initial question of what to use last
carmine oak
https://pokepast.es/f73e718cede29175
any other possibilities? idk about the type overlap. some sort of secondary fairy resist definitely
pech instead?
or gking
because i probably need some answer to wake
wooden linden
glowking works
carmine oak
glowking works
i think either np pech or some sort of psy noise gking set?
rapid barn
any other possibilities? idk about the type overlap. some sort of secondary fair...
I think you might need some sort of water resist tbh
I think the team just insta loses into sun
I’d like to suggest a bulky primarina or something like that
rapid barn
because i probably need some answer to wake
gking could work, your team is pretty weak against sun rn
But I think you really just need something to really take advantage of the terrain
fathom tide
https://pokepast.es/cf548386b320d5f8 tyranitar offense
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nocturne sable
https://pokepast.es/cf548386b320d5f8 tyranitar offense
This is not really bad. Just a few changes in mind though.
https://pokepast.es/bfed8badfc0f4562
I replaced heatran as it didn’t really have much value here especially since it’s not your main rocker. I also removed Dragapult>pecharunt for a more consistent and bulky pivot to help your Ttar get in more often.
I changed hatt because you don’t really need eject button given it’s not like a super offensive team and with the addition of pecharunt you have another pivot.
You can experiment between max def or max speed pecha depending on what you feeling. Although I recommend keeping shadow ball to help with gholdengo
sacred delta
https://pokepast.es/577ad93761c0254c relatively generic hazard stack BO. Im not sure about the hamurott, ghold val sets. I want val to be specs but idk if this moveset works best.
sacred delta
double nasty plot also isnt ideal but i couldnt think of a better way to incorporate both mons
nocturne sable
double nasty plot also isnt ideal but i couldnt think of a better way to incorpo...
I don’t think it’s the worst in the world.
It can help overwhelm common shared threats
Ig you can make Ghold Twave since you’re running bulky already and Twave is nice support for Ival
And psynoise>>future sight for more direct damage against zama, tusk, etc
On glowking
carmine oak
But I think you really just need something to really take advantage of the terra...
tera water gking
i wonder if i could make np work i want to really punish clefable
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rapid barn
i wonder if i could make np work i want to really punish clefable
you gotta fix up that gking set
if you dont run av, you always run chilly
its generally used as a specially defensive pivot
and stab sludge bomb already does a lot of damage to fairies
frozen spoke
https://pokepast.es/04e64ce77164e566 ID Zama + Zapdos BO
Idef Zama is this team’s wincon, with Ogerpon + Zapdos providing it with an efficient breaking core.
Ogerpon provides a physical attacker overlap alongside Zamazenta, helping it break through its checks like Moltres, Clefable, and Gweezing
Zapdos is the team’s main special attacker, providing Zamazenta with an efficient check to bulky physical walls like Alomomola, Dondozo, and opposing Zamazenta. The EV spread gives it much needed bulk to better trade damage and act as a temporary defensive pivot into ground/fighting types.
Cinderace is the team’s offensive utility, with sucker punch chosen to let it be an efficient revenge killer.
Garganacl provides hazards and chip damage with salt cure, and tera fairy allows it to check mons like Gliscor and Iron Valiant
Finally, Great Tusk is the team’s main answer to fairy types like Hatterene and Enamorus. The EV spread makes it as bulky as possible while also guaranteeing an OHKO on offensive Ghold after rocks.
low phoenix
https://pokepast.es/04e64ce77164e566 ID Zama + Zapdos BO
looks good
you can prob tech ice punch on garg over protect if you struggle with gliscor
hard pebble
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stable nymph
https://pokepast.es/79e7e69996e05803
Keeping Waterpon and TB Dnite
limber spear
https://pokepast.es/690b3d5d60efb5d6 idk what to do with the last 4 slots ngl i think i had done similae things but with specs bolt>lati
frozen spoke
you can prob tech ice punch on garg over protect if you struggle with gliscor
Thank you I appreciate you! Ice punch sounds like a nasty tech to lure in Gliscor, I love it. I know the Smogon page mentioned it, but I didn’t think it would actually be an option on a team like this.
Would a bulky Ogerpon spread be better on this team, or is Oger fine with being full atk?
zealous whale
Hello
Can anyone help me to make an good team ?
If anyone wanan help me so please dm me 🙏
somber sapphire
Can anyone help me to make an good team ?
This is not the channel for this
I’m not tryna minimod
clear wagon
https://pokepast.es/873274d1c9fc1b16 so this is my first sand team
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clear wagon
some things im noticing its walled by blissey
and the lack of phys walls which i need
pls tell me mods in mons and movesets
evs too
somber sapphire
https://pokepast.es/873274d1c9fc1b16 so this is my first sand team
Ok so
Sand is not very good rn, so I don’t recommend building a sand team
For starters
You don’t have many good sand abusers besides exca, and t-tar is not good
clear wagon
p sure high ladder is abusing sand rn
somber sapphire
p sure high ladder is abusing sand rn
Well good news
storm tangle
sands horrible
clear wagon
😭
somber sapphire
Sand is pretty good in UU, and Excadrill is considered one of the best mons in that tier
So if you wanna use sand play UU
storm tangle
I havent done much ou for a while but rain runs most other formats im active in
moreso ubers
archaludon, urshifu r and that blue whale are non stop
fathom tide
https://pokepast.es/82e920decc0b2e7f
the pult set's kinda odd, it would probably be better off if you picked either ddance or mixed pivot instead of a mishmash
what does the oger set accomplish exactly? i dont think i've ever seen that
if you want a hazard lead like deoxys i think this would be better as more sort of HO
but yeah thats all i noticed
gritty lake
stable nymph
https://pokepast.es/82e920decc0b2e7f
All the sets other than Kingambit (Life Orb isn't worth) are unviable
Just use the sample sets
fathom tide
All the sets other than Kingambit (Life Orb isn't worth) are unviable
the zenta set is pretty good other than lefties > hdb (stone edge bc molt and zap are kinda annoying for this team)
stable nymph
Talking about the spread for zama
fathom tide
oh i didnt look at the ev spreads that much
yeah you dont really need attack investment
final relic
Ok so
Sand is not very good rn, so I don’t recommend building a sand team
What
Sand is better than it’s ever been
somber sapphire
Sand may be better
but it's still really meh
final relic
https://pokepast.es/873274d1c9fc1b16 so this is my first sand team
anyway i think drill can be sub lefties with slide or ice/fireblast ironhead isnt great
try ada tground
btw
if you don’t do tera blast
alpine hornet
Sand may be better
but it's still really meh
again this is just not true
please stop posting in here if you very clearly are unfamiliar with the metagame
night epoch
Just use the sample sets
where are the sample sets
fathom tide
https://pokepast.es/27777375038f35e6 specs deoxys semistall
my main questions are timid or modest on deoxys and do i have enough pivots to give deoxys a safe entry point
fathom tide
where are the sample sets
smogon strategy dex https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/
final relic
https://pokepast.es/27777375038f35e6 specs deoxys semistall
my main questions ar...
ok so modest is best here you don’t need to outrun scarf lando
and yeah this should work but im not a fan of wish no protect clef
drop twave probably you don’t wanna para stuff on stall usually
have you considered just running a regular NP deoxys btw because it can actually clean well with life orb NP recover psychoboost focus blast for example
and locking into psychoboost can be hazardous
fathom tide
and locking into psychoboost can be hazardous
cant i just like switch out?
like thats a big part of stall
final relic
yes, but you would still rather not grant them free turns
if you do want to run specs though, probably shadow ball over espeed
espeed is not good on deo in general
nocturne sable
cant i just like switch out?
Stall is worst than it’s ever been this Gen with hazard removal options limited, the abundance of wallbreakers and stall breaking moves likes psynoise with great distribution.
Even though the concept of stall is keeping your resources healthy while passively chipping your opponents, you still want to play proactively.
Playing proactively meaning you don’t give stall breakers like gholdengo, hoopa-U, primarina, etc breathing space and limit the amount of turns they come in.
That being said like other raters have said spec deoxy isn’t the most ideal as you don’t want to be locked into psycho boost given free entry to some of the former Pokemon I listed above(Gholdengo,Hoopa-U, etc) Nasty plot life orb is much for efficient at cleaning stuff.
low phoenix
Would a bulky Ogerpon spread be better on this team, or is Oger fine with being ...
full attack ogerpon is fine
frozen spoke
Alrighty
Is base moveset okay? I was thinking something like SD / cudgel / play rough / encore might be better.
Since our team doesn’t exactly struggle against Dondozo or tera water garg.
Might be overthinking it though.
storm tangle
Sand is better than it’s ever been
not too sure about that one...
solar sundial
https://pokepast.es/1ce502af391a844b i think the team has a generally good matchup against most things in calcs, but how do people feel about something like this in practice? Is there a certain way i should play with it?
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solar sundial
w chatot
trail whale
I havent done much ou for a while but rain runs most other formats im active in
Please don't try to give advice if you don't know the meta, we have knowledgeable raters that will try to get to every team
sterile jay
one change i been thinking is getting rid of stealth rocks on treads
final relic
u dont need 2 rocks guys yeah
wooden linden
https://pokepast.es/d9b275631bc0d687
Yeah you dont really need 2 rocks setters here. Treads can def have high horsepower over eq and just put ice spinner over rocks
sterile jay
that way i either get volt switch to pivot out, iron head for fairies or either electric or ice coverage
sterile jay
Yeah you dont really need 2 rocks setters here. Treads can def have high horsepo...
wait does the "hit adjacent pokemon" damage nerf also affect eq on singles ?
solar sundial
Yes
wooden linden
Nah gterrain from rilla nerfs eq power
sterile jay
oh
sterile jay
ok that is pretty good to know!
also i was thinking of tera fire over ghost
i can bring back my hazards easily w cleffable
that way i can maybe defeat cinderace if it becomes too problematic
final relic
on treads ghost or water is the go to
sterile jay
on treads ghost or water is the go to
normally i would go water but the problem here is that cinderace runs will o wisp quite a bit of times
solar sundial
You have clef
sterile jay
You have clef
sadly two shot by pyro ball if they go for that
actually 3 ohko i was wrong
sterile jay
fair enough
solar sundial
https://pokepast.es/1ce502af391a844b i think the team has a generally good match...
@wooden linden could you take a look at my team?
wooden linden
https://pokepast.es/d9b275631bc0d687
https://pokepast.es/9914c4d4240cba6f
Hi. Looked over your team and made some adjustments
solar sundial
AV zama is a thing?
sterile jay
https://pokepast.es/9914c4d4240cba6f
Hi. Looked over your team and made some adj...
it looks pretty neaat ill give it a try tyy
solar sundial
https://pokepast.es/41e724c3329cf676
Im gonna trust your judgememt, but can i ask why you made the changes you did?
Just for insight
wooden linden
Av Slither is very mediocore on non sun teams.
Boots wake doesnt really function well on non hazard stacking teams
Wellspring over wake provides a ground resistance and instant power while also having encore
Zama over slither gives pretty strong speed control and a better check to kyurem
solar sundial
Zama over slither gives pretty strong speed control and a better check to kyurem
Whys treads ice fang over ice spinner?
wooden linden
Is it. Whoops put spinner over fangs
solar sundial
Oh i thought that was on purpose
stable nymph
https://pokepast.es/9fc4b57ae62b4368
I'm keeping Waterpon and TB Dnite, and I'd like the team to be offense and not BO
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trail whale
you are in the ou rates channel and
- call sand bad
- question a rater's advice
- yap about an entirely different format
gritty lake
you are in the ou rates channel and
- call sand bad
- question a rater's advice...
Nah bruh ttar fell off in gen 9
Sand in an offense dominated format and all that stuff doesn't matter
trail whale
Nah bruh ttar fell off in gen 9
ttar is the best it has ever been in gen 9, has multiple brings and wins to important games, most notably with Rilla stuff
do you play ou?
do not give advice about metagames you are not experienced with
gritty lake
ttar is the best it has ever been in gen 9, has multiple brings and wins to impo...
Did my attempt to be sarcastic fail 😔
trail whale
you do not know what you're talking about so you shouldn't be giving advice in the channel for helping players 👍
trail whale
Did my attempt to be sarcastic fail 😔
you're the 3rd person who called sand bad in the channel in the last 24 hours
gritty lake
Sand in an offense dominated format and all that stuff doesn't matter
.
Oh well ig it wasn't that obvious after all
trail whale
anyway, krxqzs take it as a warning
if you're giving poor advice or derailing the channel again you will face further consequences
gritty lake
Sand has had a major resurgence over the past few months
faint flame
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tacit bluff
Dragalge is a really bad mon unfortunately
And specs wisp dragapult just isn't a set
It would be boots if it's hex
This team is leaning to some kind of balance with a breaker in the form of hoopa but dragalge gotta go man
Status spam isn't a bad idea tho
Honestly what I'm thinking is just make it hex pult boots set drop dragalge for galarian slowking and ur almost chilling
Ur also almost bootspam atp
Helmet tusk maybe although icl idk if you even need tusk with a bunch of boots but you do probably need a knock off absorber
nocturne sable
Dragalge is a really bad mon unfortunately
I imagine dragalge is another cheap check for woger
It has some interesting traits like good typing, etc but the stats aren’t really good unfortunately
faint flame
i see it
glowking helps a lot
btw
should i invest into def with moltres
since i got glowking now
tacit bluff
Yeah fs
Idk how I feel about hoopa on this team tho
I think it's fine for now
I will say rn this team with the changes suggested becomes very disruptive with several forms of status
faint flame
i should put twave on glowking i think
faint flame
but yeah i see the boots issue
tacit bluff
Since most of the team has boots
Gliscor could be an option over tusk
It absorbs knock off pretty well
Sets hazards
And adds a third status in toxic
tacit bluff
Both should be boots imo
faint flame
okok
faint flame
4 boots is rough
tacit bluff
But it does help hoopa
tacit bluff
4 boots is rough
That's bootspam for ya
faint flame
But it does help hoopa
lowk idk about hoopa alo
tacit bluff
Yeah that part is a bit weird
faint flame
but i need something with immediate power like hoopa
tacit bluff
Hmmm
faint flame
and i need a priority aswell
tacit bluff
You can try specs gholdengo but be careful of spikes
Boots weavile is an option too ig?
Not immediately powerful but has priority with ice shard if needed
faint flame
"boots🥀 "
tacit bluff
If you don't want boots we gotta switch back to tusk
faint flame
does tusk break that well
tacit bluff
I mean
It can in a pinch
252 atk 252 speed is like
Pretty strong
There's been several end games against an opponent whose taken a lot of chip damage where I've just broken through the rest of the team with tusk
inner terrace
if you want priority you probably want a ghost resist and probably a steel type
right now the pech mu seems questionable
if pult dies it just wins i feel
you can prolly go gambit over hoopa
if you want more power you could even try black glasses
btw even on boots i do think there's merit to having tusk, checks gambit has rocks and lets you play more aggressively into knock
tacit bluff
Yeah it has merits but if they don't want bootspam then you defo wanna go back to tusk
inner terrace
also im ngl i kinda like pech here more than gking
you're weak to pon with gking
while also letting u status spam
and pivot
inner terrace
oh i thought we just took out alge for pech
tacit bluff
Glowking initially, pech also works since if alo goes we lose a phys wall
inner terrace
if u go the kix route what i recommend is trying EB mola with acro
and go back to specs pult
tacit bluff
Eh you could lowk
I think it just depends whether the team wants to be bootspam or not
Since idt they want it
And if not we can build accordingly
inner terrace
i feel like bootspam you want to fit both rocks and spikes
with knock
as a backup
inner terrace
if you wanna do bootspam try ting > tusk
tacit bluff
Pon mu gets p miserable
inner terrace
dual hazard ting, normal mola set, boots za over hoopa
would make it an okay bootspam
although again having no steel is kinda annoying
i think gking makes it fine though
wooden linden
https://pokepast.es/9fc4b57ae62b4368
I'm keeping Waterpon and TB Dnite, and I'd ...
https://pokepast.es/6c6cbebac8b0bd30
hey. looked it over and revised your team a little
stable nymph
https://pokepast.es/6c6cbebac8b0bd30
hey. looked it over and revised your team a...
Why Val over Prim and Bulky Ace
wooden linden
speed control mainly
scarf rocks lando is pretty meh overall and helmet lando was more important
wooden linden
hmm ep lando could work too yeah
bulky ace is for wisp + a more solid fairy resist
stable nymph
I'll probably go EP
stable nymph
bulky ace is for wisp + a more solid fairy resist
Also why not just run max speed on ace?
wooden linden
ace doesnt need to run max speed here. it just really just needs to outspeed val without booster energy
inner terrace
oh
wooden linden
nah just go max hp for lando
inner terrace
with taunt ep
wooden linden
it doesnt need spa
Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earth Power
- U-turn
- Taunt
its usually smth like this
inner terrace
the extra hp is also nice for gambit
stable nymph
Stone edge seems like it'll help
wooden linden
thats not worth using
stable nymph
Sadge
stable nymph
Stone edge seems like it'll help
For the birds
wooden linden
youre fine vs the birds tbh. wellspring gets past molt and you can def overwhelm zapdos
limber spear
https://pokepast.es/984e4c7ae015718c idk what i want to do if i dont want weezing as remova;
inner terrace
https://pokepast.es/984e4c7ae015718c idk what i want to do if i dont want weezin...
you'd just not run removal if u dont want weez
you're weak to zama is the main thing
so anything like clef or ghold would be fine
pech also works
inner terrace
current 6 looks fine
might have some issues with sub zama but
you could run like ghost corv
and that would do fine
cause you have weez for non tera sub zama and the other zama sets
but then for tera steel sub zama u have corv
limber spear
o ghost corv seems nice
inner terrace
tera steel sub zama is always one of those mons that like u build something that looks nice and then it still loses to that set, it's not super common but it's definitely real enough to consider
steel sub like on what set tho
limber spear
but u cant rlly drop other moves
inner terrace
like really hard
limber spear
idbp is locked crunch is mandatory yeah
limber spear
what does it snipe?
like bolt?
or like electrics
also does offensive idbp zama work here tho i hv like woger as cleaner (like 252att/speed with idbp crunch hslam)
limber spear
oh edge quake
limber spear
how real is offensive idbp
this is getting off topic but
i hv seen that set somewhere else
limber spear
yeah but u run 252 att
inner terrace
i like it actually but not many ppl run
limber spear
oh ic thx
inner terrace
its real though i think
like most are roar press
or 4a
or tera fire sub
but press 2a is nice
hitting molt and ghold
or hatt and ghold if u run slam
but yeah try out the team with the same 6 it looks solid
alrhough i will say trailblaze on pon is a little weird
on uturn sets
maybe it works tho it is a pon with cudgel knock afterall
cant be bad if it runs those moves
run ada on trailblaze though
worn lark
https://pokepast.es/ff4b3be77aad884d i really like bulky offenses for some reason
nocturne sable
https://pokepast.es/ff4b3be77aad884d i really like bulky offenses for some reaso...
There is really no point in temper flair tusk outside of sun you’re better off running ice spinner/knock off
If you’re running mixed mirror coat mola you have to run max spdef max def
empty verge
I suggest running samples tbh too much out of sync and sets off
These mons are viable
nocturne sable
The team isn’t that bad but the sets are off a little bit
empty verge
Fs
nocturne sable
Also iron crown would probably want to run enough speed to outspeed a kyurem
empty verge
My issue also
Is ghold
What switches in
Rai too
I don’t really recommend av crown here
Av mola would help I suppose
Crown could then be like
Kingambit
nocturne sable
That works
rapid barn
https://pokepast.es/ff4b3be77aad884d i really like bulky offenses for some reaso...
I suggest swapping the weakness policy back to the standard spell tag set, you'll prob take too much damage or it wont activate at all
yeah I think swapping crown to kingambit would be good
and prolly vest on rilla or mola to be a bit more solid
also your dragapult set is really wierd, just use the default pivot set
finite wind
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finite wind
I am not too sure.... I have been using this team for a while, but any improvements pls?
faint flame
dual hazard ting, normal mola set, boots za over hoopa
i can try gambit for hoopa like u said
but tbh i got a bit confused and couldnt follow the discussion 😅
but what i understood was there are 2 routes if i want bootspam or not
and i rather not
so specs pult, lokix, gambit, moltres,
then glowking/pech and then alo?
and then tusk
did i understand correctly
unkempt bramble
Guys, j need ur help
https://pokepast.es/888df1831d5d0a57
I wanted to use this team, but currently flutter mane is banned
As i understand it, its role is both a speed control and trick room setter, any other mon i can use i stead of it?
rose patrol
https://pokepast.es/1c3c169a0da94890 hey I made this balance team should I improve anything
stable nymph
Guys, j need ur help
https://pokepast.es/888df1831d5d0a57
I wanted to use this...
Wrong paste
unkempt bramble
Yeah sorry
wooden mountain
https://pokepast.es/1c3c169a0da94890 hey I made this balance team should I impro...
Garticuno is not viable in OU
nocturne sable
https://pokepast.es/dda64d4bce045e92
This can be a decent BO team but here are a few problems
-specs kyurem doesn’t fit here. It overlaps here with dnite as a dragon and needs dedicated hazard removal and pivots to function at its best.
-Ceruledge also seems out of place here, just really random imo.
You’re also missing some fundamentals like a hazard setter, etc.
https://pokepast.es/5bdd1ba7caaaf6cb this is roughly the changes I would make to your team.
I added garg and Dragapult>>kyurem and Ceruledge to be a more supporting cast of your team. Garg provides rocks utility+check to ghosts like Dragapult, non-cc Ceruledge, etc. Dragapult acts as speed control+ will o wisp helps support dnite & kingambit by crippling walls like corv & ting Lu.
I also made primarina AV to help deal with stuff like walking wake better. Also made gambit bulky gambit with hp investment to act as an alternative switch in to stuff like woger, kyurem, etc in emergency cases. Bulky gambit also has an easier time setting up.
I added roost on dnite to help a little bit vs woger rillaboom etc. Tera flying is also another dnite set you can experiment with if you want.
nocturne sable
Guys, j need ur help
https://pokepast.es/888df1831d5d0a57
I wanted to use this...
What tier is this for exactly? Archaludon has been banned for months so it’s not allowed in SV OU
inner terrace
did i understand correctly
for no bootspam yeah
faint flame
for no bootspam yeah
so do i go moltres alo glowking
or pech in there
pech seems really interesting
faint flame
alr that makes sense
inner terrace
if you run gking run eject button acro mola
faint flame
whats acro
inner terrace
acrobatics
inner terrace
like the set or the move
faint flame
both
inner terrace
oh
faint flame
acro seems fun asf
inner terrace
it's a rare set but it's good if you have strong mons to go into like kix and specs pult
also good vs pon
somewhat more commonly you might see red card acro mola
faint flame
alr so specs pult cb lokix i assume sd gambit and then alo pech/glowking and moltres
inner terrace
np
btw if you wanna run specs hex i recommend having both sball and hex
sball hex draco uturn
nocturne sable
https://pokepast.es/1c3c169a0da94890 hey I made this balance team should I impro...
Honestly I’m not a big fan of this balance structure.
-what does this metagross set accomplish here exactly? Mets definitely has some traits that can make it usable in OU but I’m not sure about this I’d body press set. It completely blanks into flying types like Lando,moltres,Zapdos,dnite, etc and metagross is super slow with no reliable recovery and weakness to common types like dark fire ground ghost etc. metagross would probably be used as an alternative utility Mon with stealth rocks if it was used.
This team’s defensive core is very exploitable. It easily loses to Ogerpon-wellspring, Tera fairy dnite, iron valiant, primarina, even Tera gholdengo and kingambit. The problem is your team is way too passive and gives most attackers free opportunities to switch in and set up and abuse tera to flip the match up against ting Lu.
I wouldn’t exactly call Garticuno unviable. Its stored power sets have a little bit of merit but it needs a team structure dedicated to it to actually work and not just a random poorly built balance structure. Btw Garticuno would probably want agility to boost its speed.
You need to identify what exactly you want to build around for your balance structure and a proper strategy before I can actually help you build the team.
For now i recommend studying samples and other comp resources to have a better understanding of balance structures.
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rose patrol
Ok
unkempt bramble
What tier is this for exactly? Archaludon has been banned for months so it’s not...
My bad its for doubles, i post the real link there
nocturne sable
My bad its for doubles, i post the real link there
There should be a doubles OU channel if you scroll down in #1051236342740308089
Just go to double rates I think
unkempt bramble
Yeah gotcha
chilly tundra
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https://pokepast.es/37faecdcdc9fbff8
This team is pretty solid honestly speaking however some changes I feel will benefit you
Pivot pon with knock is a better fit over ace imo you could do sd knock but I think pivot is better here
Then just make Darkrai nasty plot with expert belt (you can afford it since you are running defog)
chilly tundra
Pivot pon with knock is a better fit over ace imo you could do sd knock but I t...
Is it max attack or run the HP investment?
empty verge
Ogerpon-Wellspring (F) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- U-turn
- Knock Off
- Spikes
You can do taunt or encore instead if you want
river sequoia
my first attempt to be evil
nocturne sable
You should post in pokepaste format in the future
river sequoia
like this?
nocturne sable
Nah like there should be a button that shows pokepaste
You click that then copy the link
nocturne sable
K nice
nocturne sable
https://pokepast.es/bb4d6c1c2acc2cac
So from a quick glance a lot of the Pokemon here are questionable.
Jolteon isn’t exactly good. Not sure about the Gren & treads movepool. You probably want something that can at least set stealth rocks.
Cool looking team aesthetically but I don’t think it’s the most optimal.
I think it’s salvageable though but depends on what you’re aiming for. I’m assuming you want something like Offence voltTurn?
https://pokepast.es/499348136bf4a398 here is what I would roughly change on your team.
I added Zapdos & glowking>>jolteon and iron moth for a sturdier defensive core and allows you to properly check treats like tusk, fairies, etc.
Made iron treads your rocker so you have hazard play.
I made Greninja sludge wave>>ice beam to hit stuff like woger. And added water shuriken for that extra priority.
Made pult regular boots set with will o wisp hex U-turn.
Made meow triple axel>sucker punch to actually hit flyings like dragonite Zapdos, etc.
river sequoia
So from a quick glance a lot of the Pokemon here are questionable.
Jolteon isn’...
well if u can see the volt switch/u turn in the team
the main thing is that ur fast enough to just keep switching around
then play the mind game
i intentionally made this team this way
i did think of zapdos but it's just much slower than jolteon or kilowattrel
altho the stealth rock on iron tread is a good idea
but then i'd lack ground attack
nocturne sable
but then i'd lack ground attack
You still have earthquake
river sequoia
the team u sent me look
ebon remnant
https://pokepast.es/bb4d6c1c2acc2cac
okay well
river sequoia
You still have earthquake
but iron head is my only steel attack
river sequoia
erm
ebon remnant
https://pokepast.es/bb4d6c1c2acc2cac
okay which of these mons are u like
river sequoia
it doesnt matter what i like
ebon remnant
the most adamant abt wanting to keep on the team
river sequoia
speed is what matters here
if i cant volt switch or u turn first then i lose a bit of momentum
ebon remnant
speed is what matters here
no favorite mons in mind for the team?
nocturne sable
the main thing is that ur fast enough to just keep switching around
The problem with your original team is that you included mons like jolteon which blanks into every ground type, sinking the momentum of your volt turn Strat.
Non booster iron moth isn’t exactly the most threatening either. It gets outsped easier without the booster making it less threatening.
Mons like tusk get one rapid spin off your team and immediately 6-0s
And there is barely much outside of meow that’s stopping ting Lu from sitting on your team the entire game and setting up free hazards.
river sequoia
then just chip it down by ur movepool
got it changed the iron moth to booster
alr i'll change volteon
nocturne sable
Booster moth doesn’t fix the issue, and frankly doesn’t even fit on voltTurn
river sequoia
it's not a volturn based lineup it's a switch lineup
moth has u turn
and it covers fire/poison
nocturne sable
it's not a volturn based lineup it's a switch lineup
?? Volt turn means both volt switch & U-turn
rapid barn
i checked the team and yeah you have a bunch of fast mons that can pivot
but not rlly a defensive backbone
river sequoia
i checked the team and yeah you have a bunch of fast mons that can pivot
that's the whole point
rapid barn
you gonna switch and have nothing to take a hit
river sequoia
you gonna switch and have nothing to take a hit
ideally with resist or immunity
nocturne sable
Because it’s doesn’t threaten much and it doesn’t do anything important for your team
river sequoia
that's why i need to go first
rapid barn
why even moth, just use something like cinderace
river sequoia
cause i want a certain "weak" mon to take the resist
river sequoia
why even moth, just use something like cinderace
ok
actually i'll change it
what about jolteaon
do i switch to raikou or zapdos
nocturne sable
speed is what matters here
And this isn’t necessarily true. Volt turn isn’t all about speed. It’s about having mons threatening enough to force switches and abusing that to pivot around by clicking volt switch, U-turn
Another important aspect of volt turn is the hazard game. Volt turn teams require good hazard removal to allow their breakers to come in without having to worry about hazards
rapid barn
you want to be able to pivot around and be able to take those hits and threaten them back
river sequoia
And this isn’t necessarily true. Volt turn isn’t all about speed. It’s about hav...
so i need another hazard removal?
nocturne sable
so i need another hazard removal?
No you’re fine with treads
river sequoia
like something fast with defog and u turn
river sequoia
ye but the opponent wouldnt care about switching around as long as they can set up hazards and take down iron treads
rapid barn
the point is to have those mons be strong enough to force them to keep switching
and have a decent enough core to be able to take those hits
nocturne sable
ye but the opponent wouldnt care about switching around as long as they can set ...
Thats why you have mons that threaten those hazard setter
river sequoia
hmm
i was gonna make this team to mess around and have fun
lowkey i feels like it's gonna get shit on in ladder xd
rapid barn
i think quaqrash's team would work
the point is the pivot around and threaten their mons to force switchs
and safely bring in your breaker
finite wind
This can be a decent BO team but here are a few problems
-specs kyurem doesn’t ...
oki. quick question, do u really need a hazard setter in ou? otherwise, I understand!
rapid barn
oki. quick question, do u really need a hazard setter in ou? otherwise, I unders...
all teams appreciate some sort of hazards
everytime they switch they take about 1/8 of their hp, helps get their team into ko range and soften them up for your sweepers
very important ^^^
rapid barn
take on this normal team?
its alright but the movesets are wierd
just use the default sets and it would work fine
bit weak against kyurem though
but should still be playable
river sequoia
ty :))
i fixed it
sd ogerpon and outrage/earthquake/dragondance dragonite
still thinking about zamazenta set
any suggestion?
nocturne sable
oki. quick question, do u really need a hazard setter in ou? otherwise, I unders...
Yes hazards are basically mandatory on every team. You need to at least have a stealth rock setter otherwise you won’t really apply pressure to the opponents team
river sequoia
wait hear me out
what if u make a hazard team
but beside the setters
the rest is filled with fast whirlwind users
😈
or like at least 2 pokemon with whirlwind
or 3
solar sundial
https://pokepast.es/cc5932cada9f84fe prima definitely feels kinda weak here, but i think this team is mostly pretty good
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https://pokepast.es/cc5932cada9f84fe prima definitely feels kinda weak here, but...
this seems fine, you could maybe consider something like av mola here though
over prim
or use a bulkier cm prim
solar sundial
this seems fine, you could maybe consider something like av mola here though
What does av mola do for the team?
inner terrace
adds a spdef pivot mostly but also
i could see this team maybe getting overwhelmed by something like moth + bolt
or like ghold long term
with spikes up
inner terrace
dnite concerns me a bit honestly
i think tera gambit would make it playable at least
but
maybe it's fine with chomp
solar sundial
maybe it's fine with chomp
I was considering dnite over oger
inner terrace
if u have issues with dnite you can always run boots mola with tickle
i didnt wanna touch oger cause it seems like a cool mon here and you dont have much speed control in the first place, but maybe it's doable with tera grass pon and twave clef
having dual hazards also means u kinda want knock
and grasspon is good for regular pon
solar sundial
having dual hazards also means u kinda want knock
I could turn this from balance to Bulky hazard stack if you think commiting to hazards here is good
inner terrace
i think the amount of commitment you have rn is fine
solar sundial
Would need ghold tho
inner terrace
like you have dual hazards + knock
on a relatively bulky structure
and your hazard setter can punish tusk pretty well
corv is a bit problematic but if you get it chipped you can play around with defiant before tera
nocturne sable
the rest is filled with fast whirlwind users
Whirlwind has -6 priority.
inner terrace
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solar sundial
corv is a bit problematic but if you get it chipped you can play around with def...
Are there any other changes you think i could/should make to handle my more poor matchups?
solar sundial
well change your corv tera
Dragon right?
inner terrace
dragon works
now that i think about it zama looks a bit concerning
i think ghost corv would be better honestly
ok so i think actually
maybe encore over twave clef
twave seemed nice here but having encore is nice for dnite and zama
solar sundial
twave seemed nice here but having encore is nice for dnite and zama
KK
Didnt really think about that
inner terrace
and then i think zama can be outplayed with encore into scald mola
or with ghost corv
assuming they tera
otherwise moonblast is free
or even into chomp and tail
solar sundial
otherwise moonblast is free
Would i be better off using wish on alo and freeing up clef's spot with something else?
inner terrace
Would i be better off using wish on alo and freeing up clef's spot with somethin...
you could try that yeah
uhh
pech would be fine there
instead of clef
solar sundial
Why pecha
inner terrace
if u wanna replace clef
pech is good for zama, is another pon counter, good vs dnite
spinblocks for chomp
solar sundial
Got it
inner terrace
adds another pivot too which is good for grasspon
solar sundial
adds another pivot too which is good for grasspon
Feels like i should be using RS instead of defog corv
solar sundial
Rapid spin
inner terrace
unless u wanna run like rocks tusk over chomp and then like gking over pech
i like what chomp does personally but
solar sundial
Chomp is fine
solar sundial
Which set?
inner terrace
uh do you know the pain split set
solar sundial
uh do you know the pain split set
is that AV or leftovers
solar sundial
Oh does pain split not count as an attacking move?
inner terrace
it does not
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 176 Def / 84 Spe
Bold Nature
- Psychic Noise
- Draining Kiss
- Pain Split
- Nuzzle```Ok so i guess i should ask what this does over pecha besides MB
inner terrace
oh
so basically
fitting rapid spin feels awkward cause you'd be too weak to zama, hatterene is a way to prevent hazards that does ok into zama aside from heavy slam
which u can always go mola first to pivot into it
this way u dont always have to defog
solar sundial
inner terrace
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stable nymph
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stable nymph
Currently thinking about Dtail or Roost on Dnite over Ice Spinner and/or Scarf HSamu
limber spear
(https://pokepast.es/7fd65c1f42a3e6a2) also got a place like this but i like the first one more
inner terrace
Currently thinking about Dtail or Roost on Dnite over Ice Spinner and/or Scarf H...
i like scarf samu here
idt dnite set needs to rlly change
inner terrace
https://pokepast.es/c76e7fd5477e548d <:concern:1426013979930661029>
try something instead of zama here
i like specs val here
inner terrace
i mean you have gking garg
and you get prio with specs vw
zama is a bit scary here is the main thing
limber spear
what if uh
specs ival>zama and deox>ace
or convert to fat smh
or is this already fat
cuz gking garg also fit in balances
inner terrace
i think pult makes more sense than deo if u wanna swap
inner terrace
yeah
inner terrace
😭
i played ou like
a lot lot
im also known for being a serious tilter
like
i went from 2k to 1500 in a day 😭
i dont think my tilts get that bad anymore though
limber spear
i went from 2k to 1500 in a day 😭
at least u got to 2k
anyways this is too off topic
inner terrace
true
inner terrace
at least u got to 2k
honestly as long as u load something solid it's not too hard, that helps
the garg team u posted is pretty solid so you should be able to win a good amount of games with it
limber spear
honestly as long as u load something solid it's not too hard, that helps
the issue is the person
not the team
inner terrace
if you play enough and reflect on your games you'll eventually improve
safer teams are the easiest to improve with
teams with garg, ting, nite are really nice to learn with
limber spear
i dont feel like ladder nor do i hv the skill/time ngl yeah i mean i can learn but i only hv a year time and study+job
inner terrace
i dont use those nearly as much nowadays but if it helps, when i build i try to have like
1 mon at least ace speed tier or higher, preferably torn if possible, your second mon can be like faster than kyu/scor, some form of priority ideally, ghost resist, gambit answer, zama answer, ground type, ground resist, water resist, and if you have a mon that lets in pon for free like mola you need a sturdier pon counter too
for balance
oh also ways to absorb status
something that doesnt mind getting burned, a poison/steel type for poison
twave not too bad cause theres a lot of ways to either just blank it or go into something that doesnt mind it too much
limber spear
raw amount of role compression required
oh uh
https://pokepast.es/6c9c954588c3872a this was like a month ago but idk i want a better fire resist
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limber spear
idk how to pivot to that tho(like with better fire resist cuz most of the time i burn tera on cha)
inner terrace
with tusk samu and av torn i think the fires are not too bad
but maybe try putting knock on tusk instead of roar and then use like ace over dogi
tera poison teapot
limber spear
yeah i've tried knock on tusk but its just rlly weird
cuz tusk feels like its hving too much burden
ground+gambit check+soft check to some phy attackers+removal
maybe i can try
why ace tho
inner terrace
another pivot, you can run sucker punch on it for priority
means you dont have to over rely on tusk for removal
and it does add another fire resist if u have issues with that
limber spear
arent i also reversing my own hazards
limber spear
and it does add another fire resist if u have issues with that
i might try with poison teapot
inner terrace
u are reversing your own hazards but honestly ace on hazard stack isnt too bad
cause sometimes you can let hazards go up for them and court change
mostly the main thing is another pivot
if u want u can even drop court change for gunk shot
inner terrace
np
limber spear
cuz i felt like this team uh i rlly like it
stable nymph
i like scarf samu here
inner terrace
i think this is fine
empty verge
Solid build
wanton gyro
i desperately need a phazer or a dark type
i have no answer to X pokemon coming in, spamming calm mind, clicking stored power
inner terrace
cant band rilla threaten those
you should try scarf serp tho it's good on these structs
wanton gyro
rill doesn't answer manaphy
e.g. if they lead manaphy and click acid armor, it's joever
i saw an iron defense iron crown on the ladder as well today
iron defense calm mind tach/stored power
wanton gyro
you should try scarf serp tho it's good on these structs
change glare -> ?
glare's really nice imo
nocturne sable
https://pokepast.es/195a027dbb79895e
Like what stored power sweepers exactly?? Latias should get KOed by banded rilla+manaphy isn’t that real of a threat ngl
nocturne sable
Moth should be a decent lead into veil like teams
Also I think you would want Tera blast ground serp here over Fire blast to hit the likes of heatran slowking etc
wanton gyro
if i lead moth into their ground type im cooked
inner terrace
change glare -> ?
you keep glare on scarf
most of the time you're clicking leaf storm so just have like
leaf storm glare
knock and then last move whatever u rlly want
inner terrace
last 2 moves are up to preference
nocturne sable
Over iron moth
inner terrace
whirlwind
wanton gyro
moth learns whirlwind???
inner terrace
yes
inner terrace
yea
tera can be anything
fairy makes sense but i run flying a lot, flying doesnt make that much sense here though
ghost also makes sense
nocturne sable
I still would rather roar moltres tbh. Tusk looks a little annoying into the team
inner terrace
moltres is fine too
inner terrace
my only complaint with moltres though is gterrain plays very offensive and molt is a bit slow
empty verge
Fair assessment
nocturne sable
Gterrain can also be in the form of BO too
So in some cases something like moltres wouldn’t be bad
empty verge
I have seen moltres on this type of structure before
inner terrace
they run sd lorb right
empty verge
Was it tera electric
empty verge
Yeah boots is fine
inner terrace
other times its just like
empty verge
Band is bad Fs
nocturne sable
It’s low kick I’m pretty sure
inner terrace
either double grass knock or knock hhp
nocturne sable
If it’s running additional coverage
inner terrace
it can run that
but low kick might struggle to bolt
ive seen hhp and it's pretty good imo
like if ghold is knocked u can still hit it really hard, u hit bolt, hits gambit at +2
inner terrace
i feel like everything low kick hits you can play around
empty verge
Honestly idk how I feel about moth here too
wanton gyro
lorb SD rilla > band rilla?
empty verge
I know moth can do something but feels weird here
inner terrace
all the gterrains i like use seed ghold but
wanton gyro
I know moth can do something but feels weird here
i used to run cinderace
and yeah kyurem also rolls me
inner terrace
ace can be fine
so i think seed ghold on gterrain is really good
it helps vs kyu and is pretty busted at +1 def
wanton gyro
does ghold not die to specs kyu
empty verge
Specs is not as common
nocturne sable
all the gterrains i like use seed ghold but
Seems like bolt is the seed abuser here.
I don’t think the team is bad. Maybe adjust a few sets like the rilla set. Drop iron moth>roar molt. Make serp Tera blast ground>fire(if they still want to run serp)
empty verge
It’s still real
nocturne sable
does ghold not die to specs kyu
Specs kyurem is outta favour right now. Most kyurem are subtect nowadays
Or Dd
inner terrace
it's ok to lose a mon to specs if it means they have to lock into something and u get to apply pressure
inner terrace
also you live 1 earth power with ghold anyways p sure
nocturne sable
Kyurem is not that fast, it’s defensive typing sucks and very weak to rocks so as long you have rocks up Kyu shouldn’t be a problem
empty verge
Ghold will help your kyurem issue for sure
wanton gyro
252 SpA Choice Specs Kyurem Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gholdengo: 172-203 (45.5 - 53.7%) -- 41.4% chance to 2HKO
ok nice
inner terrace
kyurem is generally pretty good into gterrain by default btw, as long as you dont outright lose to kyurem you're doing good enough
wanton gyro
wait this is draco
252 SpA Choice Specs Kyurem Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gholdengo: 318-376 (84.1 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
ghold still lvies
nice
empty verge
I’m thinking that you could do ace Lando zama but I’m just spitballing
Along side it
wanton gyro
zama going to uubers when
empty verge
(Lando gives you that much needed ground immune)
empty verge
Zama gives decent speed control
wanton gyro
bolt -> ghold?
inner terrace
both are fine
ok so we're getting rid of moth for sure
tusk will go by default cause ace lando
so now do we get rid of bolt or prim
i personally dont like prim at all but i get it
inner terrace
prim one of those mons for me u see enemy and it just looks so good
then it just goes 1 for 1
serp can stay
wanton gyro
scarf ground blast serp
inner terrace
drop prim imo
wanton gyro
Serperior @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Contrary
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Tera Blast
- Glare
- Knock Off
inner terrace
having tclap for prio is nice
wanton gyro
prim -> ghold
inner terrace
oh i forgot about serp hm
wanton gyro
aura
inner terrace
you're clicking 1 move with scarf serp anyways like 70% of the time
its legit yeah
solar sundial
inner terrace
wait we still needa fit ace zama hm
wanton gyro
oh shit yeah
inner terrace
ok one second
solar sundial
rilla serp bolt lando ace ghold
Post the pokepaste again
inner terrace
if we take out bolt we lose to moltres btw
hm
weak to gambit a bit so
ok ok one second
solar sundial
Dont you need a ghost resist
wanton gyro
inner terrace
no one sec
i have it somewhere
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA / 144 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunderclap
- Calm Mind ```this set is good
should help vs gambit
and lets u come in on zama a little bit, now you have 2 backups for zama in case u want to save seed ghold
well
2 and a half
scarf serp can dent it, ep lando can dent it, bolt can come in like once
to dent it
rapid barn
zama where
hes talking about switch ins against zama
wanton gyro
oh i thought we were adding zama
rapid barn
ah
theres another issue
nothing switches into dragapult
for choiced variants everything dies in 1 hit or 1 hit with hazard chip
rapid barn
thats not what I meant
i mean if your pokemon takes a tiny bit of hazard damage
they get 100% chance ohko
also your team is pretty weak to kyurem
wanton gyro
rilla + ghold is the current tech to deal w that
rapid barn
rilla + ghold is the current tech to deal w that
neither of them could switch in very well
wanton gyro
forgot to make serp scarf
solar sundial
rilla + ghold is the current tech to deal w that
Neither of those switch into flamethrower
Or shadowball really
inner terrace
use bulky lando