#UM Rates

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empty ocean
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After it switches out it’s gonna be a super free target for calyrex, scarf kyogre, literally every single offensive mon.

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Also listen to all the tips taka gave

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Also close combat never gonna beat NDM

tacit girder
charred sorrel
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even vs ndm

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you just need to pressure it otherwise or use tera fight

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i think they hit with the same power anyways

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bc of prism armor

empty ocean
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I never see close combat for a reason

empty ocean
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empty ocean
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Hyper offense ftw rn

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I finally get to not use ting Lu without sacrificing viability

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Yay

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Btw do stall teams use ting Lu?

burnt swift
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rest is p standard

empty ocean
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Hmmm

burnt swift
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maybe low kick > cc on korai too

burnt swift
empty ocean
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Good

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Tysm

calm notch
empty ocean
calm notch
burnt swift
calm notch
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wait, so replace caly with incin?

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mk if you say so

burnt swift
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Ye smeargle and incin are 2 big parts of this style

calm notch
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are you sure about smeargle tho aint that thing frail as hell

what is it gonna do over my mew

burnt swift
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Ingrain sleep and stat passing

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It’s been a part of bp teams since gen 2 bc it has enough variety to offset the stats

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It’s fast enough

calm notch
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do i give incin swords dance/bulk up or is that smeargle's job

burnt swift
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Bulk up power trip baton pass +1

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Probably taunt

calm notch
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k

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i gave it max attack with adamant, 76 hp and 180 speed

burnt swift
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@dire swift could you actually take a look at this team if you have some time

calm notch
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do i give smeargle moody or own tempo

burnt swift
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You have more bp knowledge in sv than me surely

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Up to preference, moody has more upside but own tempo has consistency

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I’d usually do moody

calm notch
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k

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should i change any of my other pokemons stuff

burnt swift
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Hatt should be sub + draining kiss instead of resttalk, you don’t wanna spend turns asleep

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And screens aren’t necessary

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Just make smeargle spore + 1 instead

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Like substitute

calm notch
burnt swift
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Also smeargle and incin need better teras but ye this looks closer to a proper bp team now

calm notch
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ima change incin tera to dark for stab on power trip but what for smeargle

burnt swift
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I tagged a friend who’s used bp in high level tournaments so if he’s active he can hopefully help iron out some specifics

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But these 6 are usually what bp is

calm notch
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soo clefable, espathra and drifblim are cool?

burnt swift
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Ye

calm notch
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gr8

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is starf berry a worthwhile item for drifblim tho i put that in randomly

burnt swift
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Probably not but I’m not sure what it wants more

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Maybe mirror herb or smth niche

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Or mental herb

calm notch
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mental herb it is, taunt is annoying

fair ibex
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fair ibex
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i poached this a while ago but i just wanna know if it's still viable

crude meadow
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Okay so

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I think it's fine

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It's probably still viable but you'll have a very rough match up into Pao

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Specifically SD Pao

fair ibex
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i'll keep that in mind

crude meadow
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If you want your match up to be better maybe you can look into like

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Replacing Arceus dark with Arceus fighting

burnt swift
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it's simpler to probably just make solg a mag

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you have no fairy and no physically defensive presence

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since tusk just dies to the best physical mons

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I think it's really bad personally

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but if you do that you get spikes encore volt options to beat that

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if you make the darkceus a little faster and have cm wisp instead of taunt it's also more threatening to stuff like pao

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chi yu also should be tera fire with just fire blast last, you rarely wanna actually click coverage and the extra power is nice vs stuff you need a small boost vs like zacian

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since that always lives timid overheat but never lives timid tera fire overheat, I think modest works better bc of that too generally but outspeeding random shit like +1 bax or scarf lando can be helpful

crude meadow
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Yeah i agree with making Solgaleo a mag and then you can look to replace tusk with like a landorus therian (or even keep tusk)

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Also i didn't see the Arceus dark set and yeah i think you want to either fully commit to either defensive or offensive. Rn it's neither and it's kind of bad. Either CM taunt/will-o-wisp or run foul play over judgement and more physical defense EVs

rustic apex
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Cause there’s no way to easily slot a ground resist on here imo

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Hmm actually wait

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You have chi yu

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Which helps

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Umm

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Change solg to mag

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And arc dark to arc grass ig?

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Calm mind taunt probably the set you wanna go with

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Also make NDW phys def

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Although that’s not mandatory

hidden token
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Switching Arceus to grass is a good idea

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there is no need to have chi-yu + arceus-dark

dire swift
dire swift
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Feather dance is generally better than calm mind because it allows you to beat stuff like sd scale shot koraidon and ekiller arcues

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also amnesia is generally better than cosmic power on clefable, especially since clefable is your main answer to special attackers

calm notch
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nah i would rather go cosmic power to beat some of the physical attackers that would screw up the set

And moonblast has came useful on clefable too

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but ill try the rest

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Why tera dark over steel on clefable tho

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how would i stop a perish song

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pretty sure that gets passed right

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and curse

burnt swift
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Nothing uses perish song but there’s no way to stop it no matter what you do

calm notch
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i asked because someone used it

empty ocean
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The best way to stop it is taunt or soundproof

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But nothing uses them in BP teams I think

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Not this gen

burnt swift
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If a perish song mon wants to get off a perish song it will

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You just can’t stop it

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Nothing has bp and soundproof without mr mime

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So your single taunt mon is all you have

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But it’s just not common enough to worry about

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bp autoloses a bunch anyway

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It’s an mu style

dire swift
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Yeah the only reason you would ever bring bp to a tournament game is to catch an opponent off guard who would never prep for it

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but yeah mr mime not being in this gen sucks for bp but nothing really likes running perish song so usually that isn't an issue

dire swift
dire swift
calm notch
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ok so i caved and basically copied that exact team except clefable still has cosmic power over amnesia

and its def better than my old setup

calm notch
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just wanted to say thanks

this set definitely works better now with all the stuff

olive violet
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olive violet
cobalt viper
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hey, the first team is pretty suboptimal

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you seem to be aiming for ho? but theres like 3 sash mons which isnt ideal

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also terapagos, sneasler, and ceruledge are not viable

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the second team is somewhat fine tho

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you dont really need tinglu on HO and well i assume you have zoroark hisui for ekiller but you can deal with ekiller either way

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if you want a ground type on hyper offense, i would suggest going arceus ground

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also zacian c should have wild charge instead of play rough for hooh, else it just walls you

empty ocean
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Is Zoroark even viable?

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Prob not unless you are looking to cheese

olive violet
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Zamazenta-Crowned?

olive violet
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btw what is ho

dire swift
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Basically hyper offense is a playstyle centered around keeping up as much offensive pressure as possible

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Basically hyper offense teams stack up as many setup sweepers as possible plus maybe one or 2 pokemon for hazards/screen support

olive violet
empty ocean
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Love my boi but zama is still ass

empty ocean
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https://pokepast.es/d27475f72d4619ee
Uhhhhh I like adamant bulky ddance ndm, and I also really sash caly as well, it has worked wonders for me when I tried it out on my other teams with Tera stellar but I want to fit it here too. I also need the hazard removal, and maybe a taunt user idk. Struggling with the hot bird, yea.

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empty ocean
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The team is gonna revolve around adamant ddance ndm

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And I want to try and fit in boots pivot miraidon but idk how

empty ocean
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Just find a way to keep that set pls

burnt swift
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This would probably be more reliable with a korai answer > gira

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Then just boots on the caly and maybe ting and ndm

empty ocean
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Thx

olive violet
empty ocean
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Oh wait

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You already have it

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Then go for something like double dance mirai or sth

olive violet
olive violet
empty ocean
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Idk about choice items on HO but tanks are not needed on HO

olive violet
empty ocean
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Try double dance miraidon or sth

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Kingambit can be used but it’s a bit low on the VR rankings

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Also try ddance Groundceus too, so your team doesn’t get run over

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By miraidon

olive violet
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In dms

empty ocean
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There should be an analysis for it

olive violet
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olive violet
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@empty ocean

dire swift
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@olive violet personally I really don't like ting lu on that team

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your team looks like a hyper offense team but ting lu just sinks so much momentum

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also I wouldn't us scarf caly on hyper offense either

olive violet
olive violet
dire swift
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ting lu is a generally good pokemon

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same with deoxys speed

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but you can't just slap them on a team together and expect them to work

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if that makes sense

olive violet
dire swift
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and scarf caly is good too

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but the 3 of them don't work well together

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you don't want to run a suicide lead on a team with passive mons like ting lu

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here is an example of a suicide lead offense by glory

olive violet
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arceus terr to normal seems useless to me

dire swift
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generally teams with suicide leads want to run as many setup sweepers as possible to try keep up as much offensive pressure as possible

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tera normal extreme speed is a nuke

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ohkos kora and mira at +2

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which tera fire cant do

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ting lu is just too passive

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to fit on a suicide lead offense team

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I also personally don't like running choice item mons on hyper offense as well

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mainly because they can force you to switch

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which generally loses momentum

olive violet
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ok

dire swift
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ngl I think you should just go with the taxfraud verison of the team

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there are so many times when I am building deo-s hyper offense

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and I accidentally just end up making taxfraud ho

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lol

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it is basically the standard deo-s offense at this point

olive violet
dire swift
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that was the version I just posted

olive violet
dire swift
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nah deo s is fine

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just not with ting lu

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and scarf caly

olive violet
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@dire swift one more thing, which mon i should send out first

dire swift
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99% of the time deoxys speed

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it is called a suicide lead

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for a reason

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lmao

olive violet
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lol ok

dire swift
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also one last thing

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the mons on the team look good

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but I think the sets need some optimization

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like why run mira

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with no electric attacks

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lol

olive violet
dire swift
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I made some minor edits

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to your team

olive violet
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ok thanks

dire swift
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wrong nature on deo

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on the first one

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lol

olive violet
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@dire swift I LOST MY 1400 LADDER RANK

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GOD DAMNIT BRO

proud prism
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Hello I'm new here. I'm trying to get into competetive pokemon. Can anyone rate my team (please don't diss me too much I'm new to this so I just thought of what I thought was good)

https://pokepast.es/f42f8170520c6b76

cobalt viper
proud prism
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Oh ok 👍

cobalt viper
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since its a vgc team

proud prism
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Thank you for the information 🙏

cobalt viper
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np

brave goblet
empty ocean
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Ndag isn’t a playable format anymore

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Just use revivecats and stuff

brave goblet
empty ocean
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Also even if it’s still a format this team is garbage beyond belief

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Sorry, but just scrap it and make a ndubers team

brave goblet
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I made it as a joke

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almost won a few fights with it too

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LMAO

empty ocean
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We don’t rate non serious teams here

wooden vigil
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https://pokepast.es/8d0f47edd668e532 i made a ZU trick room team bc i was bored but it seems more creative than most of the of the other metas so im considering playing it more
is this somewhat viable at least

knotty moth
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this is my first HO team

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and i wanted to see what yall think

floral meteor
minor shuttle
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4/6 of these mons are not good

floral meteor
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and it would go in natdex other metas

minor shuttle
floral meteor
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o yeah ubers

minor shuttle
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but yeah still ndot

floral meteor
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i forgot ndag does not exist

knotty moth
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ok so i paste it in

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natdex

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thanks

floral meteor
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natdex other tiers

knotty moth
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ok

knotty moth
floral meteor
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natdex non-ou

knotty moth
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oh ok

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thanks

wooden vigil
atomic finch
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huh

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chatot doesn't ping?

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yoo hoo

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chatot wakey wakey

empty ocean
atomic finch
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This isn't my team chief

empty ocean
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Also the ev distribution on clawitzer is messed up

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Oh

atomic finch
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Read up

empty ocean
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empty ocean
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ddance normalceus is for encore caly

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but maybe i should use eq on that thing?

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taunt cm mirai is for the stall matchup

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actually... maybe tera ghost mirai...

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Oh yea and dont mind the tera type on zac just imagine that its tera dark

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i wanna build a HO team with deo that can deal with cheese reliably

burnt swift
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Can do normal caly if opposing scare you

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Can’t say I rate the mirai but it’s not bad, idk if it’s beating stall tho

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Clod bliss can bring it down

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Taunt pivot might be better or cm offensive lo / cm eseed agility

empty ocean
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Taunt pivot can work on HO? nice/.

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thanks

atomic finch
lime falcon
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cm fairy isn't particularly good either since there are lots of random tera fire mons

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also, gira can't fit defog, unfortunately

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its primary utility comes from forcing a ton of switches, which it can only really do with hazards up

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so you need a tinglu somewhere to get the hazards up

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if you run, like, a rocks set on fairy and slot in a spdef tinglu with spikes you could probably make it work reasonably well

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then you need, like, a hooh and some more offensive presence

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maybe hooh and ekiller in the last two slots or something?

fickle anvil
empty ocean
lime falcon
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wow, harsh

empty ocean
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lol, he left as I told.

fringe urchin
empty ocean
quasi folio
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I'm pretty sure Grookey is v good in zu

fringe urchin
wooden vigil
fringe urchin
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Cool

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How would I improve the team then

wooden vigil
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idk i just know that grookey is good in zu

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lol

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maybe add another unburden sweeper

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sceptile maybe

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bc of power boost in gterrain

fringe urchin
wooden vigil
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peace

fringe urchin
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Alright

empty ocean
fringe urchin
empty ocean
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That I don’t know.

lime falcon
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@empty ocean i appreciate the enthusiasm but please try to leave rates in tiers you don’t play to people who actually play the tiers .-.

empty ocean
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Ok._.

Just felt like that I could provide some stuff that I knew was correct but thanks for the reminder

calm notch
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https://pokepast.es/f007b41960e107d7
My ZU team probably sucks but I wanna know what could be made better

Ideally I want to keep the luxray, but other than that I'll change whatever

modern mural
faint girder
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ag

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faint girder
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please help me out :D

burnt swift
# faint girder https://pokepast.es/3fa442c3cedefc31

Fundamentally not bad, I’d make one of caly or korai scarf whichever you prefer, but usually on these kinds of builds I do scarf korai boots caly. Good speed control and better into hazards. Ndm should be defensive dd since life orb is niche and only good on HO teams. Caly can be tera normal since that’s better as a barrage answer for ditto and other caly, and if you go boots it can be np encore gk barrage. You also just don’t have arceus which tends to put a hole in teams defensively, I think water or fairy > zacian is smth to consider since water beats ho-oh and ndm while soft checking korai, while fairy gives you back the dragon answer and still pivots into physical mons

lime falcon
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Echoing fc this is fundamentally sound

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I think you need tera poison on lu tho so you don’t lose so hard to tspikes

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If you run a support arc over zac it becomes more important to have a tspikes absorber

faint girder
faint girder
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its my first time building ag so ill try and get better at it

lime falcon
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this is pretty damn good for a first attempt

faint girder
lime falcon
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if I were you I'd run a more offensive Ho-Oh but that's really just a personal preference thing

faint girder
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i like to teambuild so i do know what to use and stuff but thats mainly for ou and stuff

faint girder
lime falcon
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I suppose since you have water over fairy it's still important to have a good dragon move absorber

faint girder
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okay

lime falcon
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if you had a fairyceus I'd say go offensive Ho-Oh but this is probably fine as is

faint girder
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also

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how do i beat kyogre

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i had zac with wild charge

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but not anymore

lime falcon
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encore it

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switch korai into origin pulse and use that to force it out

faint girder
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into what

lime falcon
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cm

faint girder
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ic

lime falcon
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if it's not cm then ogre and korai can force it out

faint girder
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also is there any teambuilding guide to AG

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or no

lime falcon
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ye arc mb

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idt there's any formal teambuilding guide but it tends to be a fairly straightforward process

faint girder
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oh okay

lime falcon
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tinglu + a scarfer + a physdef support arc + something that pivots into caly, like ho-oh or ekiller + whatever + whatever

faint girder
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i kinda wanted to build HO cuz i enjoy it haha

faint girder
lime falcon
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one of the whatevers or the scarfer probably should be a korai unless you have an etern or some actual ogre counterplay

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ho building is pretty braindead and honestly it's been pretty thoroughly optimized

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small variations on this are about as good as it gets for deo ho

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other ho forms are generally less consistent against balances but can be marginally better in ho mirrors

faint girder
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isnt this the sample team

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i liked this one icl

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ima try pushing with my balance one

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tysm

lime falcon
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it's an optimized version of the sample

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there's more room to optimize it for mirror matches but

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doing so hurts balance matchups

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notable changes include running psycho boost on the deo with evs to ohko koraidon so it can't set up on you and running mental herb on ekiller so you can't get encored

faint girder
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also

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do you have any advice to help me push AG

lime falcon
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dont

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ok that's obviously an exaggeration but like

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if you really want to ladder, just spam a good brainless team until you start losing because people are cteaming you then switch to a different team

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and keep doing that until you get bored or they get bored or both

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past a certain point though laddering is more of an ego thing than anything else

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like very few of the top players ladder much at all

faint girder
lime falcon
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honestly probably

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if you're planning on laddering a lot w/ it you should probably run tera grass on caly

faint girder
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okay

lime falcon
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it's inferior to normal in most ways but it gives you a spore immunity

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which makes it easier to deal with random ladder bullshit

faint girder
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changed

faint girder
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i just played a game at 1k elo

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and the opponent used dark void on my tinglu

lime falcon
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ag ladder moment

faint girder
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which made it sleep idk why tho

faint girder
lime falcon
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not really

empty ocean
empty ocean
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They just spam boots

lime falcon
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i understand that you wrote it

empty ocean
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The closest thing we commonly use to hazard removal is eternatus or treads, one of them only deals with toxic spikes while the other is kinda ass

lime falcon
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and I know that psycho boost is in practice almost always better

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obviously it kinda depends on the team but

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leading deo into scale shot korai and getting scale shotted immediately sucks

empty ocean
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The amount of greedy korai users were crazy

lime falcon
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also being able to kill glimm while denying it from setting hazards is incredibly valuable

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psycho boost is far superior to knock off for most situations

empty ocean
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Maybe I should stop running both…

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And maybe twave over knock later when I build…

empty ocean
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Learn something new every day

faint girder
slender peak
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Hypnosis also hits Dark types

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Thunder Wave is the only status move that checks type immunities

faint girder
slender peak
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That’s Grass being immune to Powder type moves; Normalize Spore will still fail on a Grass type

atomic finch
slender peak
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Yes

atomic finch
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ty

still kayak
lime falcon
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...what tier?

still kayak
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ZU why?

lime falcon
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b/c you didn't specify

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if, for instance, this was meant to be an ag team, then we'd have a problem

still kayak
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Ohhh ok

faint girder
lime falcon
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🔫

still kayak
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Is it decent tho?

lime falcon
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I have no idea, I don't play zu

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i think if you post it again and say zu in the same message, the bot will ping zu raters

still kayak
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Ohh cool thanks

lime falcon
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if there are any

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i think you might be SOL on that front - you might have better luck getting help in the ps! zu room

still kayak
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Thanks

empty ocean
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https://pokepast.es/6b31bf349472b1ba

I have begun to really like eternatus + arc fairy, and I’ve been trying out this new spread with 330 speed to outspeed scarf caly, can it work?

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empty ocean
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They say that cm twave is a real set

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Might as well try it out

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Tho I wanna see if 330 speed is viable

lime falcon
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honestly not sure why you're coming here

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when you can probably get more eyeballs on it in agcord

empty ocean
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Uh

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Forgor 💀

lime falcon
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regardless this feels like

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it's gonna struggle the moment any opposing mon does anything weird

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there's no slack here

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like if a zac clicks sub or something then you just fold

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sub zac isn't common at all but that sort of thing is just worth thinking about

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like it also gets rolled really hard by stone edge ekiller

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and you can't really afford to scout for edge because scouting for it essentially means sacking something

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perils of running a timid support arc

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idt cm arcs are even that good right now since they just get encored

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cm twave fairy especially just gets fucked up by ho-oh

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cm gem groundy is a thing b/c it beats ho-oh

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but cm fairy just gets completely blanked by ho-oh and reliably forced out by, like, tera poison lu

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it's a cool idea but it's not good

empty ocean
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Hmmm… the spread can work, right?

Cm might not work yeah

lime falcon
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idk you need as much bulk as possible for korai

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not sure what you're trying to creep w/ 330 either

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in sm 330 was for ada ray

empty ocean
lime falcon
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not worth it

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scarf caly just gets blanked by your lu

empty ocean
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O

lime falcon
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and once it gets paraed, that's doubly true

empty ocean
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empty ocean
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Double koraidon double arc looked fun so can it work???

lime falcon
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sash caly is a non-starter on HO like this

empty ocean
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O

lime falcon
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it's really hard to keep hazards off

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so you're better off rolling with LO

empty ocean
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K

lime falcon
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you also seem to have just made the sample HO worse

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like dd ground is a huge part of the team

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it's also pretty much the only way through Ho-Oh

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b/c as this stands Tera Fairy defense Ho-Oh blanks virtually the entire team

empty ocean
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Double edge arc was made for that I guess

lime falcon
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you also don't have any counterplay to encore caly

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without a mental herb arc

empty ocean
lime falcon
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err

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i cant read

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you still dont have the ho-oh counterplay

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it's not a good time

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since you have to sd on it somehow

empty ocean
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Oof

lime falcon
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also physdef fairyceus just rolls this

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since, again, no groundy

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not having taunt on an ekiller makes it impossible to break stall

empty ocean
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Well, can I still make double korai work?

lime falcon
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and drastically worsens the mu into fat generally

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probably not

empty ocean
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Aww

lime falcon
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i mean you can try it

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but it's gonna suck

empty ocean
lime falcon
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because it exacerbates the problem that one korai has

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another major problem with this team is that

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zac is kinda vital

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since it lets you stop scarf outrage korai

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it also gives you a way to kill opposing unboosted mirai / korai without having to rely on speed ties

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which is pretty important

empty ocean
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Ah

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Thanks

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I guess I’ll just stick with that one then

lime falcon
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pretty much all deo HO turns into that one eventually

wicked hornet
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Pawmot @ Focus Sash
Ability: Iron Fist
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Revival Blessing
  • Baton Pass
  • Substitute
  • Mach Punch

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Iron Defense
  • Haze
  • Recover
  • Toxic Spikes

Volcarona @ Iapapa Berry
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Quiver Dance
  • Fire Blast
  • Bug Buzz
  • Rest

Groudon @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Precipice Blades
  • Stealth Rock
  • Fire Punch

Archaludon @ Leftovers
Ability: Stamina
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Light Screen
  • Reflect
  • Thunder Wave
  • Electro Shot

Ho-Oh @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Sacred Fire
  • Recover
  • Whirlwind
  • Protect
lime falcon
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is this meant to be an ag team?

wicked hornet
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yes

lime falcon
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unfortunately this isn't very good

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groudon, pawmot, volcarona, archaludon, and to a lesser extent toxapex are all really really awful

wicked hornet
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this were my first team

lime falcon
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but bear in mind that the samples are a bit outdated and are in the process of being updated

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that's fine, we all start somewhere

bold escarp
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idk much about zu but i threw together a quick trick room team, i feel like theres gotta be something better than duosion for using trick room multiple times a game but idk what

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rustic apex
bold escarp
rustic apex
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oh

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the bot isn't working

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erm

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@slender peak do u know how to get this thing working?

slender peak
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The bot has been having difficulties

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The wrangler is aware

rustic apex
#

ic

atomic finch
slender peak
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No that was a function change

faint girder
crystal palmBOT
#

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faint girder
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tryna get into the sv 1v1 meta for the first time lol

fossil knot
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about to go to sleep but u lose to shifu dark

faint girder
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goodra should be good into it?

fossil knot
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can sd on u

acoustic scarab
#

I agree Darkshifu is a big problem for that team...also no Fairy is rough to combat other Dragons even with Hoodra so I suggest probably Prim > Hoodra as a test

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I also personally would go with Bulky Band Hoopa

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AV has never really tanked what it needs to and fire back imo

faint girder
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fair enough

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thought it would be better into subseed sets etc

acoustic scarab
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Fair enough. But Band just does more for a team like this where you would have 2 special attackers so you can blow past special walls

faint girder
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just made this but i really like meowscarada having so much coverage

hidden token
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ur

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kind of iffy

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into regidrago

faint girder
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and volcanion soft checking fairy

faint girder
hidden token
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Crown doesnt always win

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bro just does so much dmg

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u lose to specs

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act

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ill calc rq

faint girder
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ah i see

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epower

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how will agility be when they bring out the drago

hidden token
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uhh

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ull still lose

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but i mean

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u have to just

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50/50 meow or iron crown

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which isnt toooo badf

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regidrago is broken

faint girder
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should i 1v1ify the crown set (making it so i tank an ep from specs drago)

hidden token
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ermm

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WP

faint girder
acoustic scarab
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Drago is ridiculous fr

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The team does struggle with it fs but you can play mind games to a degree

acoustic scarab
faint girder
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on my calcs, ep is 50-65%

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after agility and wp, stored power does KO

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dragon energy on the other hand

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ill have to agility

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then cm

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wait

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let me check

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nvm i do lose to dragon energy

vast yacht
lime falcon
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pretty sure there's a separate thread for uu teams

slender peak
spice linden
lime falcon
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what tier is this for

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...ndubers or something?

spice linden
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i tried 😭

lime falcon
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I can guarantee you that this team is going to be very bad in any tier where it's legal

spice linden
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mane is my first time 😭

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so mean onb

lime falcon
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man I'd love to help you but I can't do that if

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I don't have a clue what tier it's for

atomic finch
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yeah that is

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not a very good team but can't help if i dont know the format

spice linden
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🙏 heart broken 🙏

lime falcon
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...work with me here, bud

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what tier is this for?

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have you tried to play any battles with this team?

spice linden
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mf i have no idea what yall on bout i jus winged it

atomic finch
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uhm

spice linden
atomic finch
spice linden
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o yuh

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nationa ldex ag

lime falcon
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ok

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it's dogshit for that

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sorry

atomic finch
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^

spice linden
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real

lime falcon
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the power level there is insanely high

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stuff like azumarill and darkrai and hippowdon ain't gonna cut it

spice linden
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shi what format do i do then 😭

lime falcon
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you're also in the wrong channel for natdex ag stuff

atomic finch
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whats your requirements

spice linden
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no clu

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i jus want a chill team lowkey

atomic finch
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like do you have a specific mon in mind

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do you have a specific liking to a gen

spice linden
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i always fucked wit melmetal

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big ass metal dude

lime falcon
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pretty sure it's good in gen8ou

atomic finch
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uh geysers is he fraudulent in ndubers

lime falcon
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almost certainly

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i dont play ndubers but there's no shot melmetal is good there

atomic finch
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i mean it gets usage

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im assuming on tr

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idk how its not ripoff ndm tho

lime falcon
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it's c rank there

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presumably something fullroom related

atomic finch
lime falcon
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fullroom is generally ass in singles metas so take that ranking with a grain of salt

crystal palmBOT
spice linden
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what in the fuck ayll talkin bout 😭

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why yall talkin i ncode n shit

lime falcon
#

smogon tiers have things called viability rankings

atomic finch
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^

lime falcon
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that list good Pokemon for that tier

spice linden
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yall got a phd in ts shit?

atomic finch
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a representation of the viably pokemon

spice linden
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da fuck

atomic finch
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s being the best to d being unviable

lime falcon
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I was attempting to ascertain whether or not melmetal is good in natdex ubers

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apparently it's usable

spice linden
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aight bet

lime falcon
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probably garbage though

spice linden
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ill come back tmrw

lime falcon
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no

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dont

spice linden
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oh yes i will

lime falcon
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go to the natdex non-ou channel

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not this one

spice linden
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nope

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i like this channel

atomic finch
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go to the nd ot rates channel or the oldgen ou channel

lime falcon
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we won't help you

atomic finch
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depending if you play ndubers/ssou

spice linden
atomic finch
lime falcon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spice linden
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what the fuck yall was talkin bout

atomic finch
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i think its @slender peak time but im not sure

lime falcon
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smogon has a number of tiers where different pokemon are legal

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that way there is variety and there can be a place for virtually every mon to shine

slender peak
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hello

lime falcon
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does that make sense, @spice linden ?

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ok nvm this should also solve the problem

spice linden
lime falcon
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lots of work by lots of volunteers

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it's a big community

spice linden
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kinda wholesome 😭

atomic finch
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kinda yeah

slender peak
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please use this channel for rating competitive teams in AG / 1v1 / ZU / NFE / any other UMs I am forgetting

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more casual chat can happen in #comp-general

atomic finch
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poor 2v2 and uubers....

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ty ut

faint girder
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#

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faint girder
#

uubers

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first time building lol

atomic finch
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As is stomping on firepon

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Belt M2 is kinda worse than lorb

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CB zacian wants psyfangs

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Also you have no water or fire resistances

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So pfin and chiyu will tear this team apart

rustic apex
# faint girder https://pokepast.es/7f40abb76721e813

the sets imo aren't good, but more than anything I think this team's biggest problem is that it demonstrates a lack of understanding on how to teambuild. I'm not quite sure what exact kind of team you're trying to go for, so I'm just gonna give it my best guess and go from there.

Offense:
Offense teams are marked by their strong breakers, fast playstyle, and relative lack of defenses. With offense teams, you want a strong core of wallbreakers and pivots that can keep bringing in said wallbreakers, alongside one or two setup Pokemon to give the team a threatening win condition.

If you're trying to build offense, I'd stick with building around one of the better wallbreakers such as Life Orb Landorus, Specs Kyu-W, Palkia-O, etc. Then you'll want to add Magearna because Magearna is an excellent blanket defensive pokemon that also has volt-switch to easily bring in your breakers. Then just keep building the team around that with pokemon that satisfy the missing roles you need to fill such as speed control, setup sweeper, etc.

Hyper Offense:
Hyper Offense (HO) teams are markedly different from offense teams in that HO forgoes all conventional offense and defense in favor of 4~5 setup sweepers. The typical team structure of HO is that there will be a dedicated lead pokemon who's job is to create an advantagous situation (typically by setting hazards), and then dying as soon as possible to keep up momentum. Deoxys-S is the most tradditional HO lead in the tier, because it's the second fastest pokemon around which allows it to easily set stealth rock and spikes, and use taunt to prevent the opponent from setting their own hazards. Once you have a lead pokemon figured out, just slap one 5 ish complimentary setup sweepers and you're good

faint girder
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i have never played uubers before, neither have i seen the sample teams 😭

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so its just trial and error tbh

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i think ill build offense

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and just scrap this and build again lol

buoyant field
# faint girder https://pokepast.es/7f40abb76721e813

-ebelt m2 isn't very good go lorb/Boots
-oger just doesn't fit here, perhaps something like Alomomola instead
-Terapagos needs Calm Mind, probably over Flamethrower
-I like SD zacian here more than I like band because it's low on pivoting to bring it in

faint girder
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bet

faint girder
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atomic finch
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Then yeah it looks good

faint girder
buoyant field
crystal palmBOT
crystal palmBOT
#
National Dex AG (Gen 8)

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Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

wintry quiver
#

https://pokepast.es/f6b5db05ef2f496f

this one is meant for ZU, my goal was trying to make Bastiodon useful (an impossible task), plan is to

  • set hazards
  • stack hazards with qwilfish
  • set trickroom
  • roar spam to get chip
  • try and sweep with glastrier, decidueye or farigaraf
grand tapir
burnt swift
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The only mon that’s usable in ag here is miraidon, the rest aren’t strong enough to compete

grand tapir
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Yeah i am aware i made the team for fun

slender peak
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if you're not making a competitive team, there's nothing to rate

grand tapir
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Oh yeah whoops

dim spruce
#

Real issue with this team is it being based on tr

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Qwilfish + Bastiodon is alright if you pair them with breakers that dont need to waste turns setting up trick room. Look at the zu vr and post a new team with more speed and immediate power

forest lynx
#

https://pokepast.es/a527f649e98bd257 i use em for AG but was told to paste here

i change their moves and items like, weekly but i think im okay where they are rn

azumaril ohko/sweeps
scyther covers a few relevant mons
camerupt if trick room or against steel types
minun... i never really know what to do with
pory2 defense & trick room setup
hatt for magic powder, exp force, and spikes counter

lime falcon
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this is not viable at all in ag

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sorry

atomic finch
#

Rate my AG team

sword car (Chien-Pao) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sword of Ruin
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Ice Spinner
  • Crunch
  • Sacred Sword

biohazard (Glimmora) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Toxic Debris
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

  • Spikes
  • Stealth Rock
  • Mortal Spin
  • Earth Power

sweepy sweepy (Miraidon) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • U-turn
  • Overheat
  • Draco Meteor
  • Electro Drift

water powah (Urshifu-Rapid-Strike) @ Life Orb
Ability: Unseen Fist
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Surging Strikes
  • Close Combat
  • Poison Jab
  • Focus Punch

cover (Flutter Mane) @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Shadow Ball
  • Moonblast
  • Thunderbolt
  • Mystical Fire

shadow (Calyrex-Shadow) @ Choice Specs
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Astral Barrage
  • Energy Ball
  • Psyshock
  • Trick
empty ocean
lime falcon
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there are serious problems here

empty ocean
#

And choice items on HO is generally not good

lime falcon
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urshifu is awful, pao is awful, flutter mane is super hard to justify, and, yeah choice mons on HO aren't great

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there are some decent ideas generally

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glimm + mirai + zac + caly is a good start for an HO team

empty ocean
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(Pao has niches but its fringe at best)

atomic finch
lime falcon
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you just need some different sets and an ekiller

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I understand

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glimm is a viable pick in that role and that's fine

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although it does run mud shot instead of earth power

atomic finch
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I use flutter for coverage

lime falcon
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so that stuff can't set up on it

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unfortunately flutter just doesn't have the firepower it needs

empty ocean
lime falcon
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it can't really get through common balance staples

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like ekiller and fairyceus

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if I were you I'd go to, like, some kind of life orb set on miraidon

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same for caly

atomic finch
#

Alr

empty ocean
#

Agility mirai looks good

lime falcon
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then, like, mental herb ekiller and maybe a dd groundy?

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i dont like agility mirai here

empty ocean
#

Hm

lime falcon
#

but i guess it's kinda the only option without webs

empty ocean
#

Cm lorb sounds like stall cteam

lime falcon
#

mirai's hard to fit on HO outside webs honestly

empty ocean
#

That I saw some ppl use on ladder

lime falcon
#

might as well just run the sample screens

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#

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atomic finch
#

Can ya improve my team and send in dms please?

lime falcon
#

oh fuck's sake

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no

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but I'll tell you what I'd change quick a minute

atomic finch
#

Alr

lime falcon
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drop mirai, urshifu, mane, and pao

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so glimm + caly stay

atomic finch
#

K

lime falcon
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switch earth power to mud shot on glimm, caly becomes life orb tera normal with astral barrage psyshock grass knot

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add arceus-normal, max speed max atk adamant with taunt swords dance shadow claw extreme speed and a mental herb (tera normal)

atomic finch
#

Alr

lime falcon
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add arceus-ground, max speed max atk ada with taunt dragon dance earthquake stone edge tera fire

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add koraidon, swords dance scale shot low kick flare blitz with loaded dice max atk max spe jolly tera ghost

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add either grimmsnarl (see the team I posted above) or a zacian-c

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if you do zac, probably max atk speedcreep to 407 and dump the rest into bulk, tera fighting with swords dance close combat play rough wild charge

atomic finch
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Tysm

lime falcon
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np

atomic finch
#

@lime falcon is this team good?

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biohazard (Glimmora) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Toxic Debris
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

  • Spikes
  • Stealth Rock
  • Mortal Spin
  • Mud Shot

Calyrex-Shadow @ Life Orb
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Astral Barrage
  • Tera Blast
  • Psyshock
  • Grass Knot

Arceus-Ground @ Earth Plate
Ability: Multitype
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Taunt
  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge

Koraidon @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Def / 136 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Scale Shot
  • Low Kick
  • Flare Blitz

Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Close Combat
  • Play Rough
  • Wild Charge

Arceus @ Mental Herb
Ability: Multitype
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Extreme Speed
  • Shadow Claw
  • Taunt
#

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atomic finch
lime falcon
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run tera ghost on glimm

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and just max speed on korai, you can't afford to invest in bulk without screens or webs

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but aside from that it looks fine

empty ocean
#

I usually speed creep to 409 but idk

atomic finch
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#

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lime falcon
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the one meaningful change I would make is to drop dwb on korai for low kick

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you definitely need low kick

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also zacian doesn't need more than about 160 speed evs so you might as well dump the rest into bulk instead of running more speed than you need

atomic finch
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@lime falcon switched zac-c cuz it wasnt doing much

lime falcon
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why

atomic finch
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Switched it with grim (support)

lime falcon
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it's a staple on this kind of team

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dude just use the sample at that point

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lime falcon
#

fuck's sake chatot

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I'm just trying to post a sample team that does the exact same thing but better

atomic finch
#

Litterally the same team

lime falcon
#

you can mess with the caly set a bit or change the groundy tera

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yeah

atomic finch
#

Yeah

empty ocean
#

But maybe you just forgor

atomic finch
#

Ik

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But i couldnt find a better nature

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@empty ocean

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What would you reccomend?

empty ocean
#

Or you can go with 80 defense and 176 special attack for the best koraidon lead interaction

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Anyways

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Somebody said that scarf caly enables non scarf koraidon

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I want to try it out

atomic finch
#

I don't think you can baton pass the effects of the held item, and its not that needed for a speed boost considering parting shot has a built in one

empty ocean
#

It technically can also pass boosts if you trick the item away and get boosts but that’s not the main feature

lime falcon
#

lando can't 1v1 them and one of major drawbacks of scarf caly is that it can't use encore to punish ekiller

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which means you need to have very, very reliable other ways to handle it, like willo defensive arcs

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lastmon bu ekiller just wins

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then, of course, you can go to willo fairy but then you end up with a super passive team with very few wincons, and it gets harder to justify lando

empty ocean
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I guess BU killer just gets sent out last and wins

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Or taunt users

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But yeah I just realized the ekiller MU

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I have been playing too much Ubers and forgor about ekiller

atomic finch
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into sclaw/espeed/bu/recover

lime falcon
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you can but there's a good shot that you'll end up tricking a ho-oh or lu

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unless you save it for the lastmon situation on the off chance it's a bu ekiller

atomic finch
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lime falcon
#

? this is essentially a sample

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it's a fine team

atomic finch
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Ik

lime falcon
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so why post it

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you definitely don't need it rated

atomic finch
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Kinda changed stuff

lime falcon
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tera blast on caly is stupid

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you'd much rather have nasty plot

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I can think of precisely zero times that you would want to click tera blast instead of any other move

empty ocean
empty ocean
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#

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atomic finch
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i've beenj summoned

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ok

rustic apex
atomic finch
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okay so

rustic apex
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alr let's see

empty ocean
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I have been in Ubers UU cord since day 2 I need to be active lol

atomic finch
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ur zacian

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has no evs

empty ocean
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Oops

atomic finch
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terap set is uh

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very bad

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and it rly doesn't make sense on this team either

rustic apex
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no real water/fire resist

atomic finch
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it just feels rly mismatched

empty ocean
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Hmmmm giratina

rustic apex
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and what imp said

atomic finch
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u have like ho monsters like id cm darkceus paired w/ deoxys who needs slow pivoting and scarf shifu

rustic apex
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idt psyfangs are necessary on tera blast ground right?

atomic finch
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watershifu will eat pfin hits once

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but porigin will maul you yeah

rustic apex
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once

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gouging fire also mauls the team

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tbf it mauls everything

atomic finch
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also deoxys rly wants knock > sball

rustic apex
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^

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I'm also not a fan of no ground type

atomic finch
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no ground is fine

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but no elec resist

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👎

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terap out for tina fixes alot here

rustic apex
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true eleceus is getting a lot more usage

atomic finch
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swap darkceus to max hp taunt cm

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and its probs not so bad

empty ocean
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I got inspired by that demon arc set in Ubers lol

rustic apex
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I also prefer 160 speed deoxys

empty ocean
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But I guess phazing is very common here

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Hm

rustic apex
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but that's kind of a me thing

atomic finch
empty ocean
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Oh nice

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Thanks

atomic finch
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deo might struggle to get in the game but the speed control is too important to lose

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np

zealous cosmos
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am i crazy

atomic finch
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@dim spruce @dusky walrus idk who else to ping

dusky walrus
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Tera Flying on Qwil seems suboptimal since you're not really that scared of Grounds in this tier, as much as I personally love Toedscruel AV is definitely not a good set and this slot would/should be better with a Sandslash or Cramorant for removal, Magneton + Perrserker seems like a really weird core and the Perr should probably be something like a utility Mesprit that can give you rocks + fight resist + pivot, and Dachsbun is pretty unfavorable generally too and doesn't have much it wants to Wish to here anyway

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https://pokepast.es/3875dd570d01e6bb without changing the team too much you can probably make this six work a lot better, it's a lot more standard and can match up into relevant threats (Charizard, Decidueye-Hisui, Qwilfish) a lot better

dim spruce
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there are too many shitmons ngl

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that's kinda like asking for help in ou with 4 mons being uu / ru

dusky walrus
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cram/mag/mesp/qwil is an okay four

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scarf brav and dachsbun... well

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they can work fine for ladder purposes with that 4

dim spruce
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i meant in the original paste

dusky walrus
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yes

dim spruce
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id advice to look at the zu vr (that just got updated)

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and tag us when they have a team with more standard picks

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it's not impossible to build with those mon, but it's only for experienced builders

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and even experienced builders wont try to put them all 4 in the same team

atomic finch
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Not here.

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Go to uhhh natdex non ou rates

ember gorge
atomic finch
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entirely unviable

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i suggest you use samples teams from ag

crystal palmBOT
ember gorge
fossil knot
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modest belly drum hydro pump

red flume
crystal palmBOT
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New [Gen 9] Anything Goes RMT @burnt swift, @cobalt viper, @charred sorrel. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

red flume
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I want to improve vaporeon and flareon

burnt swift
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This team is unviable, we don’t rate themed teams like this because there’s no way to make them good without removing all the mons it’s actually using

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If you want to use it then no one’s gonna stop you it just won’t be viable at anything above low ladder

red flume
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Alr

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I’ll just see how far I can ride this team

unique tartan
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oh

unique tartan
atomic finch
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unsure why that didn't ping

unique tartan
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any advice

unique tartan
atomic finch
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lets try

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ok

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w/e

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@lime falcon get manually pinged

unique tartan
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lmao

atomic finch
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but um

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whats waterfall on arc for

unique tartan
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and moltres

atomic finch
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stone edge?

unique tartan
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im not a gambling man

atomic finch
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hooh

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is doing nothing

unique tartan
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fair

atomic finch
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and vs moltres its fun 30%s

unique tartan
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but like also

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il take whatever damage i can get

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against the possibility

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of doing zero damage

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im good with keeping waterfall i think

unique tartan
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what do i do against zacian

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besides

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arceus

atomic finch
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surely groundy

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but um pao is very eh

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same with kyub

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u could swap em out but i'd rather wait for someone whos better at ag than me

unique tartan
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alright

lime falcon
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@unique tartan I’ve seen worse but this team has some issues

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waterfall is 100% never worth it on groundy since it does no damage

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it doesn’t matter if you might miss if you don’t kill with a hit

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also cyclizar and kyub are completely unviable and don’t belong on serious teams

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same goes for pao honestly

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sash caly doesn’t really make sense and neither does the mirai

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like what does flash cannon hit lol

unique tartan
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litearlly

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all the ghost types

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and itself

unique tartan
lime falcon
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remind me why you’d ever click flash cannon against them instead of edrift

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edrift does more (133x1.5 vs 80x2) anyway

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also sash caly is bad since it gets neutered by hazards - it generally relies on tera normal to avoid revenge killing

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you’d be better off just running a life orb probably

unique tartan
unique tartan
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since another mon

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can come finish the job

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in one hot

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if it does live

lime falcon
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lol what ho-oh has regen

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and more importantly, it probably just burns you

unique tartan
lime falcon
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and then they can go to something else and either kill your groundy or setup in your face

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…

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have you ever faced a ho-oh?

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they run sacred fire