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[tight karma]

yeah, is there anything I can change about this team?

[slender geode]

You can drop the mag for a scarf dodtrio or mismag methibks

I dont think this is the bestest idea but its a possibiliry

Possibility

Outside of that most of this seems pretty standard l

[tight karma]

what set for mismag?

[slender geode]

Like Shadow Ball Dazzling Gleam Trick Filler coverage

Like tbolt or mystical fire

[tight karma]

alr, how does this look now?
https://pokepast.es/3dcf6c622c848eba

[uneven geode]

New PU RMT @slender geode, @split sedge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tight karma]

oops, srry bout that

[slender geode]

Change tera ghost to fairy

And change hari nature to adamant too

The rest seems fine enough and standard

[tight karma]

ok then

[tight karma]

also, since sleep is now banned, is this team still good?
https://pokepast.es/1d961f975f2c4579

[slender geode]

Just drop the viv for something else

[tight karma]

like what?

[slender geode]

Another special attacker

Like a CM Mismag or something

[tight karma]

got it

[split sedge]

yea

viv is just uh bad... to not be more harsh after sleep ban

[slender geode]

Yeah its just shit lol

It lost its niche w sleep gone

[tight karma]

yeh

pretty midiocre now.

[slender geode]

Not even just bad

[tight karma]

actually, should I replace Shaymin with Sceptile on my team?

or something, idk

[slender geode]

Nope

Dont use scept outside of terrain ho

[tight karma]

actually

[tight karma]

also, I wanna actually replace Regirock with Registeel

[slender geode]

I wouldnt

[tight karma]

how come?

I mean, the best reason I could think of for Rock over Steel is fire resistance

[slender geode]

I wouldnt type overlap w sandslash

[tight karma]

what if I can replace Sandslash to make room for Steelgi?

[slender geode]

I dont think its worth it

[tight karma]

Alr

[magic portal]

https://pokepast.es/7ec43bf5305a3b68

[split sedge]

Looks ok id maybe just change dewgong for poliwrath with belly drum , swift swim

And id maybe change twave intonroost and put hp evs instead of atk evs , maybe ludicolo over basculin

[magic portal]

oh i don't even know the tier i just put something together i think looked cool

send a paste of changes is possible

[boreal sedge]

https://pokepast.es/f2c4c1982ceb016f

[uneven geode]

New PU RMT @slender geode, @split sedge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[split sedge]

Yea sure ill one moment. but you can aswell. https://pokepast.es/465e2b1c86c50ee4 here

[split sedge]

first of all id recommendput stealth rocks over stone edge on that regirock , use only hp and physical defense evs also use twave over explosion. and id recommend change the persian alola set to this. Persian-Alola @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Jolly Nature

• Foul Play
• Parting Shot
• Thunder Wave
• Taunt

and id recommend using trail blaze over tera blast on sneasel hisui. Also remove those spa evs on articuno and use on spdef. As for sandaconda use this set Sandaconda @ Leftovers
Ability: Shed Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Jolly Nature

• Coil
• Earthquake
• Stone Edge
• Rest

Alternatively i think u could use mesprit over regirock as your rocks setter. Mesprit @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Tera Type: Fairy
Bold Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Psychic
• U-turn
• Knock off/Thunder Wave

[boreal sedge]

im a little confused why ghost tera for the snake? is that defensive?

[split sedge]

i think is overall better because if u use tera dragon you will still be hit by ice moves as you would with ground

only benefit i see for tera dragon is resist fire

but u can try both. i just think ghost is betteer

[boreal sedge]

do u think tera dark for sneasel still works?

[split sedge]

yea its ok

[boreal sedge]

thanks for all the recs. foul play on the persian was something is didnt consider, but def helps with phys attackers trying to set up

[slender geode]

I would drop bascu

For float

Bombird here is weird; add a volbeat instead imo

Make the lugg jolly

The weezing here is a bit weird here

I think you want an achu or something here insteaf of it

Rain doesnt need a defensive backbone

As leo said bd poli is a must

[slender geode]

No rocks is a miss here

Why is a persian on this team, and why is sneasel tera blast

Use tera grass trailblaxe on sneasel imo and make the persian some other pivot

Maybe a mesprit

Sanda def should just be stone edge as leo said

Change the arti to a max spd max hp set

[swift moss]

https://pokepast.es/42bb37638d8ed257

[uneven geode]

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[split sedge]

I thimk you should change ur typlhosion into a spinner like hitmonchan maybe with assault vest or lefties ig or hattrem bc is the only magic bounce user atm. Change defog on shiftry and run growth and you should prob run weather ball over sucker punch

Also if ur gonna run scarf pass u dhould prob use close combat over drain punch

And change ur houndstone for a rock setter. It could be mesprit or lycanroc ig.

[slender geode]

im not sure what your going for here?

for starters, i wouldnt use Typh here

change it out w a Growth Vileplume or a Growth Eggs

Shiftry should also be growth and NEEDS heat wave, you can drop defog and sucker punch.

make the zard hbd, i get what your going for w specs but it doesnt rly work

drop d pulse for sorching sands, and make flamethrower weather ball

[slender geode]

tera fire btw

sun needs a lead, drop pass for a lead lycan imo

or lugg

i also dont understand what houndstone is doing here at all..? add a secondary setter to help pix out here instead, go with volbeat

this is a small optimization, but make pix tera ghost

rest seems ok

[grave ocean]

Anyone got a golurk team

[slender geode]

golurk is not pu.

[grave ocean]

What is

?

I really wanna play with golurk

He’s fire

[slender geode]

..?

your in PU rates chat.

1: we don't give teams here
2: golurk is not PU

[grave ocean]

Which chat do I go for gorluck team?

[slender geode]

probably #comp-general ?

[hardy bobcat]

https://pokepast.es/d03db25f323fa229

[uneven geode]

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[hardy bobcat]

would like help making this custap flail arboliva team better (sun)

[split sedge]

i dont think arboliva fits on sun. and flail doesnt work well either

[slender geode]

Whats with yall and sun

Ill take a peak at this later

[tight karma]

Dang PU got a huge meta shift

[solemn steeple]

Yeah

https://pokepast.es/c8d86ef92611527d
I really like Lyca lead but Idk if it’s great on this team, Tauros Snorlax and Toxicroak in theory shut down weather, tho you need to Tera toxicroak to deal with Bruxish rain more easily. I love the idea of articuno-galar, it switches into most spinners vs Lyca to get hit with knock while clicking agility. It gets hurt a lot by para but other than that has treated me well. Finally, hoopa is an incredible cleaner and forces a lot of Teras.

[uneven geode]

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[slender geode]

im ngl, alot of this is going to be a bit iffy as the metagame is noew so

but most obvious issues to me are

you dont need tera psychic or willo on tauros p, you can be tera fighting and something like eq instead

make the snrolax heat crash, prolly over rest

choice scarf hoopa is kind of balls, i would use somethging else in its slot like an oricorio or something

toxicroak for sure wants gunk shot over pjab, this is optional but i like LO more atm

Lycanroc should be 0 hp 0 def and 0 spd ivs, just is more optimal

rest seems fine

[solemn steeple]

Yeah team’s been in the back as meta has shifted tbh. I have some stuff I’ll prolly shift around alongside that stuff but ty

[slender geode]

Nws

[distant ravine]

https://pokepast.es/c063256a4287e9ad

not too sure what im doing with pu, i wanted to use furret and this was the lowest teir i could. i would have a hazard setter but tidy up of furrert would mess that up

[uneven geode]

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[split sedge]

Soo idt u should be using furret and morpeko

And if ur gonna use sceptile

Run unburden with grassy seed

And pair with thwackey sd/cb both works i think

[distant ravine]

whats sd/cb

not too up to date on my abbreviations

[split sedge]

You should prob run some defense evs on that pory or like run recover over shadow ball

[distant ravine]

also, what is the issue with morpeko?

[split sedge]

Sword dance or choice band

[split sedge]

, dont hit hard , frail

The meta isnt just good for it atm

You should prob run sandslash for spin

Its atleast bulky , can set up rocks , has more utility stuff and offensive pressure overall

[distant ravine]

band gives it a pretty good atk, aura wheel boosts speed

[split sedge]

Well yea but theres alot of fighting , ground types

Also weather is preety good atm

[distant ravine]

which i can switch for

[split sedge]

^

[distant ravine]

alola or kanto?

[split sedge]

Both could work i think?

Id change that hoopa for regirock imo with 252 hp and 252 spdef evs

Or u can keep hoopa and make it scarf i think

And change that tbolt for focus blast , future sight for trick

[distant ravine]

i figured a berry could work well with magician

[split sedge]

Well is just that hoopa is very frail

[distant ravine]

if i were to instead change sceptile what would you reccomend

[split sedge]

Ig bulk up , drain punch , rage fist , taunt with tera ghost primeape eviolite with 252 speed and 252 hp evs could work im unsure tbh this meta is still quite new

[thin wharf]

https://pokepast.es/055d1ef2d484f7dc

[uneven geode]

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[thin wharf]

is this fine with the feb shifts

[split sedge]

i just think u need spikes on that qwilfish

also u kinda lack rocks setter too mayb mesprit over zard , taunt over cloro blast on that trode

[thin wharf]

heard

[thin wharf]

spikes>jet?

[split sedge]

yea over jet

[thin wharf]

bet

ty

[sinful geyser]

https://pokepast.es/e85cb9459961bff1

[uneven geode]

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[split sedge]

Looks good id maybe just change crocalor with 252hp/252spdef wo chien. Also maybe change clawtzer to scarf bruxish so u get more speed control
-leech seed
-knock off
-protect
-ruination

[slender geode]

It looks good but why is there a Croc here

Its really not good anymore, and yeah i would go wo chien

scarf bruxish or floatzel shoyld also def be here over claw as leo said

I feel like lycan is way too frail to use SD Life Orb properly… maybe just CB instead and replace SD with Psyfangs / Crunch?

Finally change sandaconda to tera steel over water IMO

Other than that, team looks solid enough

[sinful geyser]

Thanks for the help gamers

[slender geode]

No worries

[split sedge]

np

[white saddle]

https://pokepast.es/10debaef9b177534

I cooked

Nothing good lol

[solemn steeple]

Block snorlax is nuts

Could do smthn tho

[white saddle]

All it takes is one greedy hazard or status 🙂

[solemn steeple]

Ye

[split sedge]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-pu-viability-list-post-dlc2.3734483/ id suggest build another team and look at vr bc u have like 2 unviable mons , alot of weird sets

[white saddle]

https://pokepast.es/185254aa9bfea08b
Modification of last team

Currently got to 1300 feels good. Struggles vs Froslass and Braviary

I like the magcargo, zong, cham, and mow have been pulling their weight. Venomoth and Scyther hasn’t really done much so far looking to swap them out but don’t know for what. Willing to give Veno more time because I haven’t really given it clean switches since Cham is covering a lot of the good mons.

[split sedge]

This is even worse than before now u have 3 unviable mons... Just because u are on 1300 doesnt mean anything. Please just rebuild and look at vr dont use unviable mons if u want ur team to be rated. Floatzel choice band prob just 6-0 this team

[slender geode]

No offense but this really sucks

As leo said being 1300 proves NOTHING i could get to 1300 with a Tinkaton if i wanted to

Please look at the vr or try a sample before you come here and send us pretty unviable teams

Alot of these sets are literally all over the place that any attempt rating it from us would be just us making a new team

Why is bronzong hex? Why is medicham and magcargo here at all? Modest Max HP Rotom Mow?

Just not really great

[gritty heath]

btw tblast is special until u tera (which is when the higher atk vs spatk thing comes into play)

[hidden solar]

He’s asking to get it rated calm down

What you so hard on him for

[slender geode]

how is any of this me being hard on him lol

this is reasonable critism

[solemn steeple]

He’s asking to get it rated so if it needs fixing she should be honest with him

[slender geode]

this

if i lie people are not going to improve on their building

its entirely justified as the rater to be as honest as possible with the person requesting a rate

[warped path]

https://pokepast.es/eb78767b86ac8393

I'm back you guys

[slender geode]

Ill take a longer look tmr but first thing i see is to not use malamar

[warped path]

why not?

[slender geode]

terrible

[warped path]

right...

[split sedge]

Also you need rocks which you can fit on sandslash just fine overstone edge

And isnt better just make that braviary specs or something

If u arent going to use roost

And i would change rotom base into rotom mow scarf i think?

[warped path]

but contrary

[slender geode]

But no

[warped path]

oh ok

[warped path]

actually can I just scrap the team and make a new one?

[slender geode]

Sure

[split sedge]

With scyther and vikavolt , whimscott being so great atm i doubt malamar ever being viable. So yea you can just scrap the team ig

[warped path]

https://pokepast.es/a7c3107ff6152a32

[split sedge]

I would recommend use a choice item hoopa instead of av

Because its too frail and typing is preety bad defensively

Maybe specs or scarf works here

And i would maybe change aiai into snorlax

[fallow forum]

• Agree with what leo said, would change Hoopa's item to Scarf or Specs. You kinda need that extra burst of speed or power, and most of the time Hoopa is being hit it's with a physical move so the extra special bulk (on top of its already great special bulk) doesn't matter too much. Also lets you run Trick if you want!

• I would consider dropping one of Close Combat or U-Turn on Scyther for Quick Attack or Trailblaze, one of Scyther's biggest issues is its awkward speed tier sometimes getting in the way of sweeping and these are both ways to help with that issue. I'd personally drop U-Turn and tack on Quick Attack, but do whatever you like!

• I'd drop Stealth Rock on Sandslash-A for Swords Dance since you're going for a snow mode here

• Clawitzer doesn't really fit here since you already have two big, strong, slow special breakers in Abomasnow and Hoopa. I'd recommend dropping it for something with Stealth Rock! Bronzong, Sandaconda, Palossand, Mesprit, Uxie, and Lycanroc are all great choices and can either provide some much needed defensive utility or extra anti-offense tools.

• If you're going to use a choice item on Grafaiai, I'd recommend Band over Scarf since Grafaiai is already naturally very fast and doesn't really need the boost, especially now that Salazzle is gone. Also, if you're going to run choiced, I'd consider going the route of 4atks Grafaiai with Gunk Shot, Knock Off, Low Kick, and U-Turn. If you don't want to double up on choice items, you could also always take a more utility oriented approach with Toxic, U-Turn, Encore, and Knock Off!

[warped path]

can I go Snorlax like Leo said?

[fallow forum]

you could do lax over aiai yeah

that's a good suggestion

[slender geode]

Dude just apply for comphelper atp

[warped mauve]

If you want a contrary attacker lurantis it can go mixed has recovery in synthesis

[slender geode]

Dont use lurantis either

[split sedge]

Yea its also bad

[woeful gull]

https://pokepast.es/473e82aa2514508c very odd team but very fun to use imo

[uneven geode]

New [Gen 9] PU RMT @slender geode, @split sedge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[woeful gull]

supposed to be dark tera on poli i missed that

[fallow forum]

will give a rate when i get home from work :)

[fallow forum]

• Most of my issues here are your Tera types and move choices. You already mentioned Poliwrath was meant to be Tera Dark, but some other things like Tera Flying on Scyther (should be Ground or Fighting if you're running the Defog set), Tera Grass on Qwilfish-H (should be Ghost on this team, you need a spin blocker), and Fairy on Dragon Dance Lapras (should be Water or Ground, you need the extra power boost on Liquidation or Earthquake respectively) all stick out. Also, Tera Blast Electric on Orthworm doesn't really hit anything, the whole point of Coil sets is to just muscle through everything and Iron Tail + Body Press does that just fine. You could also drop Protect for Stealth Rock and free up the slot on Sandaconda for Stone Edge.

• There's no real reason to use Waterfall on Poliwrath over Liquidation, the flinch chance isn't relevant on Belly Drum sets since you'd really rather just kill everything outright. If you're in a situation where you need to hit something more than once at +6, you've already done something wrong.

• What does this Orthworm spread do? Like, I'm genuinely asking, if there's a purpose to it I'd like to know. Same for the Poliwrath one, these seem very specific and I'm genuinely curious what the purpose of these is.

[slender geode]

im not even big on poli

orth 100% should be replaced with something else

like a Sandslash A or something

my main issue with this team is that theres little immidate power tbh

everything on this team needs a turn or two to truely break

[gritty heath]

bdrum poli is only good on rain imo, ur better off sub bu

honestly poli kinda overlaps with lapras (overlapras?) so u might be better off with a more immediate power

idt ur team needs qwil that much, since its spikes are prob gonna be removed by ur own defog, especially with lapras not having hdb

could go something like toxicroak+some other dark mon or hariyama+skuntank>poli+hqwil

the other route would be to replace lapras instead and switch poli to sub bu

[fallow forum]

while i do agree w this i refrained from mentioning it since they seemed to want to build the team around it specifically

[woeful gull]

appreciate y’all, i’ll change that up appreciate the help. this was for the teambuilding challenge a while back but i’ve been using it since

[lunar hearth]

first time trying to climb a bit in PU, heres a team i made https://pokepast.es/b0068e37df0c2cc4

[uneven geode]

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[lunar hearth]

pls rate

[split sedge]

You need a rocks setter here

And gliglar over drifblim

Preety sure ambipom is not good so maybe scarf staraptor over it

Also run flash fire on arcanine

And run stored power over mystical power

Im wondering if u rly need goodra here bc i was thinkin on duraldon so mayb ur mu into grimsnarl isnt so rough

[lunar hearth]

what duarldon set

[lunar hearth]

thing is i made this team with ambipom in mind, so thats the one mon i dont want to change

[split sedge]

The one from smogon looks good

[lunar hearth]

also i seem to have troubles with alcremie

[uneven geode]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/duraludon/

[lunar hearth]

whats a good counter too alcremie tho

coz nothing on my team beats it

[split sedge]

Well you can use muk av

But duraldon should be fine no?

Galar bro is also a good check to it

[lunar hearth]

nah its over if it gets 1 calm mind up

flash cannon does not do enough and it keeps stacking CMs and recovering

[slender geode]

Idt you want mystical power on uxie

Also yea rocks setter is needed here

Small optimization but i feel like you do not need tbolt

(On goodra)

You can run scald the burn chance comes in handy

[lunar hearth]

the initial team had lycan instead of uxie but i felt i lack special coverage

[slender geode]

I disagree w this tbh

You need hazard control abdly here

[lunar hearth]

yea i like drif too

[split sedge]

Doesnt gliglar grt defog though

[slender geode]

N

[split sedge]

Oh

[slender geode]

If you wanna go gligar

I would drop drift and ambi for aslash and gligar

[lunar hearth]

i dont

i think drif is better

will o wisp and strength sap are nice

[slender geode]

Also your missing 4 evs on arc

[lunar hearth]

and it can do special dmg

[lunar hearth]

right missed that

[split sedge]

Defog drifblim seems rough tbh

[slender geode]

Its not that bad

[split sedge]

Well yea but i just find too passive

And being knock weak doesnt help

[lunar hearth]

hex can do a surprising amount

[slender geode]

Tbf

Gligar is also knock weak effectively

Oh yeah

[lunar hearth]

ok im still not sure what do i do with uxie

[slender geode]

Tauros Aqua is good but

Raging Bull > CC

The defense drops reallyyy hurt

[lunar hearth]

should i replace it with some socks setter or what

[slender geode]

I think uxie is fine

[split sedge]

Yea its alr

[slender geode]

If anything needs to go its ambi

[split sedge]

That mon isnt simply viable

Or well is rly bad

[lunar hearth]

uh...an alternative pls, i just really like ambi 😦

[slender geode]

You need rocks

[lunar hearth]

i could put rocks on uxie

[slender geode]

Honestly thinking of it more a gastro here isnt bad

[lunar hearth]

instead of shadow ball

[slender geode]

You would need to change the entire set then

Which makes ur team alot more passive

I would honestly add like

[lunar hearth]

in place of?

[slender geode]

Ambi

Or if you want something that hits harder a sandslash mayb

[lunar hearth]

not ambi pls, maybe i could remove goodra and use duraludon with rocks

[slender geode]

Honestly ambi is just

Really bad lol

[split sedge]

Doesnt hit hard

[slender geode]

Fake Out on paper looks neat but its rly not

[split sedge]

Too frail

[lunar hearth]

it does tho

[slender geode]

With fake out sure but

Its rly not that hard to outplay it

[split sedge]

100 base atk is patethic

[slender geode]

Slowbro G just switches for days on it

[lunar hearth]

sandslash is also that btw

[split sedge]

Yea but gets sd

And has alot more utility

[slender geode]

Sandslash has rocks and spin and sd and still has knock tho

[lunar hearth]

so does ambi

[slender geode]

And much better defenses

[split sedge]

If u want a normal type that hits hard pick staraptor

[lunar hearth]

hmm ok if i remove ambi, i aint using sandslash tho

[split sedge]

Yea use gastro over ambi

As bella said

[lunar hearth]

staraptor sounds appealing now tho

[slender geode]

I think you need to prioritize having rocks firsy

First

[lunar hearth]

hmm so spdef or def?

on gastro

[slender geode]

Spd

[lunar hearth]

uh team looks too passive now

[split sedge]

How lol

[lunar hearth]

https://pokepast.es/59faa0e03c348403

ok this the team rn

also i still dont understand how am i supposed to beat alcremie

[split sedge]

Uxie should be fine no?

[lunar hearth]

nope, it beat me already

if it gets a CM up as uxie is switched in its over

[split sedge]

Arc?

[lunar hearth]

the one i faced also had acid armor

[split sedge]

I mean maybe u can run clear smog on gastro

[lunar hearth]

oh that could be good

over ice beam?

no i think earth power is essential

oh u unsended

[split sedge]

Ye mono poison gastro rly bad lol

[lunar hearth]

really the only answer to that mon i can see is roaring or whirlwinding

ill try with gastro tho

[split sedge]

Goodra cant help though?

[lunar hearth]

as i said if its a cm up, goodra doesnt do enough and it draining kisses whatever little i do

i have lost every game that had an alcremie in it

[tidal quarry]

This tier seems NUTS for some reason: https://pokepast.es/9f74051d6c971497

[uneven geode]

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[split sedge]

Change giga on trode hisui for leaf storm , gastrodon to tatsugiri imo bc u need spin , it also has nasty plot . Run discharge over tera blast , foul play over twave also change its tera to eletric imo and mudsdale over rotom heat and scream tail over quiwilfish hisui

[timber quest]

Hi I'm new to team building, mostly always played random battles but made a PU team I'm interested in making better. How do I post pokepast? Or is a picture ok?

[split sedge]

!pokepaste

[uneven geode]

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[split sedge]

Here @timber quest

[timber quest]

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[timber quest]

Okay here is the team I made. Major problem is if rocks get up brfore I get Scyther out I'm basically screwed. Not really wanting to switch eviolite for boots. Possibly swap someone for a second defog/rapid spin user. I also need to look into speed tier for Delphox.

[slender geode]

Wtf how are we at 4 raters now

[timber quest]

Hi Bella 👋

[slender geode]

This seems pretty odd

The team is fixable but the sets are pretty bad

Eggs isnt that good anymore and Hitmonlee does not really fit in a team like this

You 100% want CC on Scyther, i would change it to Boots CC

Over tailwind

[timber quest]

Close combat?

[slender geode]

Yeah

[timber quest]

Ok

[slender geode]

Gastrodon set looks fine, but i think clear smog is better than sludge

[timber quest]

Hitmonlee is great for taking out staraptor

[slender geode]

Its pretty gimmicky

Not at all consistent enough

Bellibolts sets is all over the place

Run this instead

[SET]
Name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Toxic
move 2: Slack Off
move 3: Volt Switch
move 4: Muddy Water
Item: Rocky Helmet
Ability: Static
Nature: Bold
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Ivs: 0 Atk
tera type: Water

Tbis is from the thingy we have in the qc so just copy this set off: AV isnt really useful on most mons in Pu aside from like, regen slowbrog

Why are you 212 Spe Magician on Delphox with Power Herb? You do know Delphox gets Grass Knot… right? Max SpA Max Spe Boots w Grass Knot just seems better

[timber quest]

Well Delphox is sick because magician ability can steal items after dropping a water type with solar beam

I said I need to look at Delphox speed again but truly I think you guys don't really know tbh

[slender geode]

Eggs and Hitmon probably can be replaced w like, Scarf Tauros Aqua and a filler pick

[slender geode]

Idk its just too inconsistent compared to just running blaze boots

Oh yea the fire stab should be fire blast

[timber quest]

Smh

[slender geode]

Eggs could honestly be anythign you think fits best atp, theres not really anything i see in mind that needs to fit here

Maybe like… CM florges or something like that?

[timber quest]

Idk thanks 🙏

[slender geode]

Yeah ofc nws

[rotund thicket]

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[split sedge]

Idt webs is that great atm

If you wanna do ho lead lycan better , staraptor should be scarf

[rotund thicket]

It's been working well for me

[rotund thicket]

But Banded raptor is funni

[gleaming fractal]

cb raptor is fine on webs

[slender geode]

Cb raptor sucks in general tho tbh

Alot of raptors niche is having the extra speed to deal w like, the 105s

Idt webs are bad but idt band raptor fits well on it

Drop hitmon btw that mon is like, actually ass

[split sedge]

Cb flamigo might be better here i think

[rotund thicket]

Ye that's what I'm thinking

For what

[rotund thicket]

Its working fine for me tho

[uneven geode]

Flamigo (Gen 9)

Typing

Flying / Fighting

Abilities

0: Scrappy | 1: Tangled Feet | H: Costar

Base Stats (BST: 500)

82 / 115 / 74 / 75 / 64 / 90

Weight

37 kg (60 BP)

Gender Rate

50% Female

[rotund thicket]

Idk

It hits less hard and is slower

[split sedge]

It has better stab , intim immune and can hit ghosts and not being weak to rocks is great

[rotund thicket]

Hmm

[split sedge]

Main reason staraptor is great is bc of scarf sets that outrun alot of stuff

[rotund thicket]

Aw

[split sedge]

Alola sandslash could work over it

[rotund thicket]

Why tho

[rotund thicket]

What moves

CC Brave Bird UTurn and what

On a Banded set??!?!

[split sedge]

Just go roost

But yes

Even on a banded set

Ive also seen dual wingbeat

But i like roost sometimes to regain hp while scaring a mon to force switch then comeback later

[rotund thicket]

Hmm alr

And why ASandslash

[split sedge]

Well is a great spinner

And u are already using rotom heat so coloasal doesnt fit well here i think

[rotund thicket]

Hm

Any other options

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[rotund thicket]

Noo why did you ping them again 😭

Sorry yall

Hitmontop @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature

• Earthquake
• Rapid Spin
• Mach Punch
• Triple Axel

I am down 0-2 because of some shitty luck

Man.

[timber quest]

Hi. I am sorry. I was wrong I accept you all were right thank you for trying to help me. Even if it did rub me wrong at first

The physical bellibolt build served me well. Perhaps I'll come here again for help. Thanks pokemon masters. Have a good day.

[nova lake]

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(Did I win just because the opponents blundered?)

So, this is a team idea I had. It was originally a stall team, but I added Staraptor to give it some offensive push. It’s a standard scarf staraptor, with u-turn for easy pivots. I usually send it out early to get fast u-turn chip, in the middle to poke holes, or at the end to clean up.

Wo-Chien is invaluable to the team. Tera Ghost is a perfect complement, turning its myriad weaknesses into neutralities. Leech Seed and Giga Drain makes sure that it always stays healthy, and Knock Off limits offensive power and their longevity. It’s also a great special wall.

The next special wall is Gastrodon. It offers a great synergy, since Gastrodon resists Fire types aimed at Wo-Chien, while Wo-Chien resists Grass types aimed at Gastrodon. It offers some valuable utility by Spikes and Water Absorb, and is not just a do-nothing wall with Ice Beam and Surf to scare out frail threats.

The final special wall is Florges. Offering Wish to the Pokemon without recoveries (Staraptor, Wo-Chien, Bronzong) and boasting a massive special bulk, this Pokemon is reliable and facing a wide variety of threats.

The first physical wall, and perhaps the most important Pokemon, is Altaria. I originally picked Decidueye for the role compression of Knock Off and Defog, but it was frail and had a non-synergistic defensive typic. It’s a great counter to both variants of Taurus, and offers valuable chip damage in Hurricane and Flamethrower. Most important, however, is Defog (not everyone on my team is wearing footwear) and Cloud Nine (making it a true Salazzle check.)

The next physical wall and the final Pokemon on my team is Bronzong. It has Heatproof to stave off Arcanine and other fire types. Bronzong offers Stealth Rock, a fairly generic IronPress setup, and Heavy Slam to hit fairy types.

https://pokepast.es/a1a6d2c6a4f53b47

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[split sedge]

Looks too passive

Like you have 5 do nothing and scarfer

[nova lake]

maybe I should include more toxic and knock off?

[slender geode]

That wouldnt help

You need some actual offensive threars

[nova lake]

I suppose any form of stall is unviable in this tier

is staraptor enough?

maybe i could replace florges with toxtricity or something

[gritty heath]

well if ur looking for stall then it isnt balance and then changes things

[nova lake]

This was originally a stall team featuring the core of florges, gastrodon, wo-chien, but i modified it to make it more like a very defensive balance

I wonder if pure stall could even work in this tier

But if not, then I suppose i'll add an offensive threat to replace the extremely passive florges

[gritty heath]

maybe go scream tail>florges for a faster wishpasser

make staraptor cb or hdb and then squeeze in a better scarfer somewhere else

and try to get a bulky setup mon

[nova lake]

I see

and if I were to make it into a pure stall team, what pokemon should I replace staraptor with?

[split sedge]

Idt stall is viable

Specially with stuff like scrafty around

[gritty heath]

glowbro prob

tho yeah that too

[split sedge]

Like that mon abuses any passive team soo hard

[gritty heath]

its fun when my op lets me set up with scrafty as if im not gonna tera poison when they bring in florges

[nova lake]

I see

In that case, would choice band be better on staraptor to quicky shut down scrafty?

or is the extra speed a better value

[split sedge]

U can also use on flamigo

I think staraptor better as scarfer

[gritty heath]

im indifferent on scarfraaptor but people keep saying it sucks

[nova lake]

I suppose whether scarf vs band depends on the team structure of my opponents

I find scarf staraptor to be useful in dealing with setup sweepers with +1 speed and stuff

[warped path]

https://pokepast.es/c09a879d105f3e72

I do insist on using Dudunsparce

[fiery folio]

have brought this up in PUcord already but cm boomburst is a lot better than coil dudunsparce

Aside from that though, iron head doesn't really do anything for arcanine at all, you're better off running the standard curse set over this

Arcanine @ Heavy-Duty Boots  
Ability: Intimidate  
Tera Type: Normal  
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Curse  
- Flare Blitz  
- Extreme Speed  
- Morning Sun

articuno-galar doesn't offer much here and only really seems to stack weaknesses with your glowbro/gligar

you could probably replace that with a bellibolt cos it is a slow pivot that takes the pressure off glowbro in dealing with physical stuff like tauros/staraptor

But like ur still left weak to a bunch of stuff like toxt and opposing inteleon, especially when you can't get away with av glowbro because you have no removal

[warped path]

so what can I do?

[fiery folio]

I don't think it's easy to fix this without a lot of restructuring to be honest

[warped path]

I still wanna use Dudunsparce

[fiery folio]

Yeah that's alright, dudun is viable anyway

But you probably have to approach building around it differently if u want to have less of these structural issues

idm looking over another dudunsparce team of yours if you try again

[warped path]

so, what kind of team works with Dudunsparce?

[fiery folio]

I mean, it works fine on balance which is what you seemingly were already attempting anyway, but you can try to incorporate answers to some of the stuff I've mentioned + removal as well because dudun really wants hazards off bc it being healthier gives it more opportunity to set up

[warped path]

so basically a team with Rapid Spin?

[gritty heath]

maybe scarf tatsugiri over inteleon?

[fiery folio]

late response but yeah pretty much

[warped path]

what kind of rapid spin user? I am planning on Aslash

[fiery folio]

slash can work sure

[warped path]

I'm not really a fan of making Arcanine slower, but I'd like to hear you out

[fiery folio]

I mean that part is kind of redundant given that you're building smth new now

[gleaming fractal]

It’s using Extreme Speed anyway

[fiery folio]

But yeah ^

It's curse anyway so you're not maintaining a good speed tier regardless

[warped path]

https://pokepast.es/d0250a7116db85a8

don't think I changed much, just the sets for certain pokemon

[fiery folio]

right so the issue for this one is that you're pretty weak to tauros

[warped path]

right, what can I do to be less weak to the buffaloo?

[fiery folio]

It's kinda difficult here tbh, I don't see any obvious change you can make to alleviate this issue, you might just have to tera something early

btw you have no pivots which makes it rather difficult for you to find opportunities for inteleon to come in

I think u turn over knock on gligar is smth to consider

cos you have it on slash anyway

[warped path]

what can I replace Gligar with?

don't really want something weak to ground

[fiery folio]

Oh why do you want to replace it

You would definitely need to restructure if you did

[warped path]

I feel like Gligar is redundant since I have Aslash

[fiery folio]

Idk how that's the case, they play pretty differently

[fiery folio]

again i think if you switch to u-turn gligar this won't rly feel true

[warped path]

right

[warped path]

https://pokepast.es/c336b3765d68447c

how does it look now?

[fiery folio]

i played a few games with it and it feels quite nice in practice tbh

Let me know if you have any more issues though

[warped path]

okay

[blazing shale]

https://pokepast.es/a4229ad4f0b50292 @fiery folio @gritty heath @split sedge

[split sedge]

Isnt better go tera normal scream tail

If ur using boomburst

Also i dont rly like gliglar on non wish teams

It can get worn down preety quickly

Id wonder if golurk could work

[fiery folio]

This is true but i feel like gligar is one of those mons that forces enough progress/provides good enough role compression that it's generally worth it regardless, idt u should actively avoid using it without wish tbh

[fiery folio]

Idk this is kinda weird cos u have typical ho picks like offensive scream tail but u also have a few bo picks like ambipom, bulkier stuff like gligar/av glowbro

What direction do you want to take with this

[blazing shale]

more of an offense structure

https://pokepast.es/9a857ccb77a77e34 aurist and friends helped me turn it into this

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[fiery folio]

Oh right

That's the thing though right

[blazing shale]

wdym

[fiery folio]

You have very little in the way of a defensive backbone

But you're also just not fully hyper offense either

[blazing shale]

yeah its an Offense

where u mostly just have stopgaps(?)

[fiery folio]

Stuff like offensive scream for example will probably run u over

Or even just fast offense mons in general cause problems

[blazing shale]

:C

corvy suggested dura > tatsu

[fiery folio]

Yh that's the thing I don't see the merit of running this kind of structure rn

u have double choice which can be a momentum drain but ur backbone boils down to just gligar so u don't have much room to recover from losing momentum so it just feels awkward imo

@blazing shale ngl u can just run like skunk over bird like they're suggesting in pucord as well lmao

[blazing shale]

ight

ill also do the tail sugg ig

https://pokepast.es/ba091415221a0b1e

[fiery folio]

Probably make gligar rocks in that case > spikes

[blazing shale]

yeah

[fiery folio]

I still think the scream set is not it to be honest

[blazing shale]

is there a better CM Tail set

or do I go Scyther in that slot

[fiery folio]

Yes there are several better sets

Idk having the speed control

Is pretty nice

[blazing shale]

do u have a CM tail

[fiery folio]

i generally run cm boomburst sub flame/fire blast

You don't really need stabs

Boomburst does more than them anyway

sub is nice cos u turn stuff like gastro which would just clear smog u before into setup fodder without having to use tera

[blazing shale]

Scream Tail @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 48 Def / 252 SpA / 208 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Calm Mind
• Boomburst
• Substitute
• Flamethrower

like this?

https://pokepast.es/78006c5e763b03b4

[fiery folio]

u can be a bit greedier with defense EVs if you like, the only thing you have to outspeed is scarf tauros anyway

But ye that's just nitpicking, set is fine

[blazing shale]

ight

whats a greedier ev spread

[fiery folio]

Oh ye and normal > steel

[blazing shale]

ight

do we lack breaking power

[fiery folio]

You really need the power boost scream tail is really weak

[rotund thicket]

Offensive scream :0

[warped path]

actually, the team is getting a bit boring

[warped path]

decided to remake the team again

https://pokepast.es/b0944fc303a36477

[warped path]

supposed to be balanced

[fiery folio]

mmm this team has a few issues

Main one is probably the lack of speed control

You could probably replace tatsu+arc with smth like a coalossal, then u could run a scarf mowtom/an electrode hisui as speed control if you wanted

[warped path]

which member should I switch out for Mowtom/Electrode?

[fiery folio]

i said to replace tatsugiri and arcanine with coalossal + either one of those two

[warped path]

oh, right, didn't catch on

[fiery folio]

another thing is u prob don't need wave crash on tauros

[warped path]

what is the prefered item on Electrode?

[fiery folio]

u could probably just run raging bull instead tbh, it's gonna get worn down a lot with hazards + recoil

electrode-h uses boots

[warped path]

how can it even use boots, it does not have legs

[fiery folio]

Anyway, the other thing I wanted to say is ur gonna have to try to play aggressively vs stuff like golurk cos u can't fit a dark here

If it gets in on ur defensive stuff it's either gonna force u to take a ton on ur tauros or just lose something on the spot so keep that in mind

[warped path]

how does the team look now?
https://pokepast.es/96227a9d1ba2fb42

[fiery folio]

This reminds me i had a team i built a while ago with a similar structure...

Ye 3 weeks ago I built this https://pokepast.es/07175541c9d8c756

Not gonna make you use the same thing but like you want a knocker

Also

[fiery folio]

soundproof is better than aftermath btw

Cos you can actually troll stuff like specs toxt

[warped path]

how tho?

[fiery folio]

Soundproof means you're immune to boomburst and overdrive

[warped path]

oh right, Toxtricity

[warped path]

is not having a knocker a bad thing? Is so, then I'm curious, what knockoff user should I add to my team

[fiery folio]

yes it makes it more difficult to make progress if you do not have one, that being said changing ur team into mine is a bit silly lmao

[warped path]

Yeah, is there any way of adding a knocker on my team that does not include turning my team into urs?

[fiery folio]

If I thought of one I'd have probably suggested it kek

[warped path]

so uh, no solution rn?

[gritty heath]

knock>eq is a thing on gligar

or replace helectrode with scarf mowtom for trick

[fiery folio]

Dropping eq is weird but

Could probably work tbh, i suppose it isn't really a necessity?

[split sedge]

You kinda have a worse mu into some 1v1s without eq

I would drop either toxic or u turn for knock

[fiery folio]

Ye that's the thing there's a lot of opportunity cost to dropping any of these moves

[split sedge]

I much rather lose momentum than being passive

[fiery folio]

Idk tho u end up w/ it being pretty difficult to get in ur breaker this way

So is just awkward

[split sedge]

Yea for sure

Dropping toxic doesnt seem that bad imo

[fiery folio]

Maybe so

Just test ig

[warped path]

What about replacing a mon with the a knocker?

[blazing shale]

https://pokepast.es/d20d4e66c11470a0

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[fiery folio]

aside from the flyspam core this seems fairly standard for ho

tatsu doesn't need boots that much on ho so u could make it like white herb if you wanted to

But without messing with the concept of the team there's not much u can do

[blazing shale]

is this bad :C

[fiery folio]

no not really

[blazing shale]

finally 😄

[fiery folio]

Aside from minior + band raptor this is just standard ho

[thin wharf]

https://pokepast.es/743d5d7f9ea8bfcc

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[split sedge]

idt you need wish here

cm florges could maybe work

team looks preety gud

[thin wharf]

alr

ty

[split sedge]

im just kinda worried about ur gbro mu tbh

hm maybe change zong to gastro

with earth power , recover , clear smog , rocks

just so it doesnt become set up fodder

[thin wharf]

yea i just got set up on

so

ur on to smth

[gritty heath]

team seems kinda weak/slow

maybe a fast wallbreaker?

also could make florges scarf

one option is scrafty/arcanine into skuntank/pauros fire

[thin wharf]

ill go arc into pauros fire

what set

aight i have a version with pauros fire, a version with scarf flor, and a version with scarf skuntank

[thin wharf]

i played a bit and this is the version i liked the most

https://pokepast.es/d0bafaa2f8c26dba

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[slender geode]

Ill get to this one

[gritty heath]

seems kinda slow with scarf skunk slapped onto the back for speed

might i suggest cm scream tail>florges?

also thats the wrong gastro form east is superior

[thin wharf]

pinkstrodon better🥱

[thin wharf]

alr

[split sedge]

isnt black glasses sucker skunk better for speed control

[thin wharf]

i wouldnt know

[split sedge]

i mean skunk can be used as scarfer too is just that i particularly dont enjoy using it over other scarfers

[thin wharf]

i could go glasses skunk then cm scream tail > flor and scarf pauros fire > arcanine

[subtle shadow]

can someone give suggestions on how too make my team better

and perish song was on accident

[slender geode]

Politoed isnt even legal

And uh this team is pretty shit

[subtle shadow]

I knew it

[slender geode]

Yeahh

Not much we can do here

[fiery folio]

Had no idea decidueye even had nasty plot before seeing this

[split sedge]

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[gritty heath]

got my hopes up i could make a defensive\ frog core with belli+poli...

[feral kraken]

https://pokepast.es/13746987356eb355

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[feral kraken]

Made a PU sun team bc why not

[split sedge]

so why not use bleakwind storm over hurricane

on torn

since hurricane acc is rly bad on sun and bleakwind storm isnt affected by sun weather so badly

[gleaming fractal]

only 2 SR setters on an HO

ur better off with another chlorophyll mon

[feral kraken]

Hold on lemme get my other PU team

Hold on lemme get my other PU team

[feral kraken]

https://pokepast.es/b01abc2721e765aa

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[feral kraken]

How's this

[split sedge]

Why 2 rock setters , even if u run spikes on 1 of the grounds

U shouldnt be using defog if ur trying to stack hazards

And u should be using a spinblocker like decid

[gleaming fractal]

I'm assuming one of them is meant to be Spikes

[feral kraken]

https://pokepast.es/dd2addfef41c1278

Fixed it

[uneven geode]

New [Gen 9] PU RMT @slender geode, @split sedge, @fallow forum, @gleaming fractal, @fiery folio. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[split sedge]

Looks preety good

Id maybe use u turn over toxic

[fiery folio]

I'd run u-turn over knock off, not toxic

But tbh idk how I feel about this team, it doesn't have an answer to specs melo and is kinda weak to tauros/opposing decid as well

[split sedge]

Hm yea vs non cb can be rough to check

Tho decid should be good into water tauros if isnt cb

Team has a water immune , fighting immune so thats nice start though fire tauros might be rough

[feral kraken]

Tbh it feels awkward to use rotom bc you either attack and lower your sp atk or switch out

I'm thinking about replacing it with bombirdier if it actually checks decid and tauros

[split sedge]

Yea you dont need it

Maybe scarf rotom grass

[feral kraken]

How's rotom mow different from rotom heat? /gen

Other than the typing and signature moves ofc

[split sedge]

Not that much besides grass stab

And benefits of being grass type

I just think is good scarfer overall

And there isnt many vswitch mons on the tier

Besides maybe beli

[feral kraken]

I was thinking about putting bombirdier instead since Smogon says that it's the tier's best pivots

And it can apparently check both paldean tauros and decid

[split sedge]

U mean scarf bombirdier?

I mean its preety frail to check pauros

[gleaming fractal]

it's barely a tauros check at all

even scarf rlly struggles

[ebon obsidian]

https://pokepast.es/29bd80075c0f7791

[uneven geode]

New [Gen 9] PU RMT @split sedge, @fallow forum, @gleaming fractal, @fiery folio. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ebon obsidian]

Gen 9 PU team

[split sedge]

Id suggest look at vr or samples

Most of those mons are unviable

Also too slow

[uneven geode]

PU (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• Speed tiers
• Tiering and rules
• Simple questions, simple answers
• Metagame discussion thread
• Tiering information
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[river crag]

a

wanna swap out braivary and gastrodon but dont know some good swaps? Gen 9 PU https://pokepast.es/95384ab33b4bf3ff can anyone help me out?

[split sedge]

Specify that is gen 9 pu to ping raters on the pokepaste

So we get pinged

Altho im kinda unsure how to help tbh we just had a heavy meta shift yesterday we are still figuring out whats good or not

[river crag]

oh okay

Gen 9 PU

lol

[split sedge]

Like this

Editing doesnt matter

[river crag]

in notes?

[split sedge]

From what i can tell already is that ur team lacks hazard removal

No

[river crag]

lol i have no clue where to add format then

[split sedge]

!pokepaste

[uneven geode]

PokePaste is the easiest way to share competitive teams with other people online. Simply upload your team to the site and you can share your team by sharing the link in your browser!

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1277030605070012546/Screenshot_from_2024-08-24_18-05-57.png?ex=66cbaeee&is=66ca5d6e&hm=b6be01052b74977f47e55ffd398a3f36ce897d49c88ad94d8cd8f9a4152692ca&

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[river crag]

oh shit i forgot about that button

havent played in like 2 years

yeah i messed with that team since then

https://pokepast.es/0e524fcb12f0d35d

[uneven geode]

New [Gen 9] PU RMT @split sedge, @fallow forum, @gleaming fractal, @fiery folio. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[split sedge]

I would maybe use bombirdier over mudsdale

[river crag]

i am lacking in speed alot on this team so ive been trying to figure out who would be best

[split sedge]

Bc suits better on ho for rocks

Well yea alot of ho pu staples that were fast are in nu now

[river crag]

most teams are using weather/terrains

[split sedge]

Like scream tail

[fiery folio]

I don't think you should run bombird over muds

[split sedge]

Even in ho?

[river crag]

is the team not terrible tho? its my first time makin one in nearly 2 years

i was never good at making teams sadly

lmao

[split sedge]

Looks okay

Tbh meta still new to tell

[fiery folio]

It has glaring issues

Like

Having no fairy resist

scarf florg is a pretty bad mu

[river crag]

who the hell is florg

oh wait

[fiery folio]

Florges

[river crag]

what is MU

[fiery folio]

Matchup

[split sedge]

I was thinking if using alola slash could work here maybe?

[river crag]

oh okay

[split sedge]

Altho overlaps with tatsu so ig better not

[fiery folio]

u could run copperajah>minior

And then like bombird over scrafty

[river crag]

yeah i only really kept scrafty cuz i found him cool but hes pretty damn useless at times

[fiery folio]

and make decid choice band with U-turn > swords dance and this should be fine-ish, i think

[river crag]

stealth copperajah or keep bomb with it

[split sedge]

No

Av rajah sounds better here

[fiery folio]

You have a mudsdale

So you don't need to run rocks on copper

[river crag]

okay

[cosmic marten]

after deciding on Ubers as my main tier, ive tried out OU, UU and RU. RU felt like a huge pain, maybe its just me playing for suspect reqs on low ladder. anyways this is my first attempt at a PU team, im sure we can keep zoroark and decidueye my goats, right?

oh shit wrong link

lemme change ut rq

it

https://pokepast.es/cac61d7a7c43ecb8

[uneven geode]

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[cosmic marten]

there we go

my next stop is prolly gonna be NU

but idk, ill wait for the next suspect so maybe i can use it there too

[split sedge]

i would suggest running spdef wo chien and sd over u turn on decidueye

weird i dindt recieved ping here despite not being muted

[cosmic marten]

finally

[ebon obsidian]

https://pokepast.es/0a5a9f5b7d0916c3

[uneven geode]

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[ebon obsidian]

made a team with honchkrow as its center focus (i love the crow)

[split sedge]

Honchkrow is unviable

[split sedge]

We cant help if your gonna build with unviable mons

Smeargle and cryogonal also unviable

[ebon obsidian]

any replacements?

maybe to take the team to a more hyper offense focused route?

[split sedge]

Tatsugiri over cryogonal if u rly want a spinner

Bombirdier over smeargle

[ebon obsidian]

hmmmm alr

how bout toxtricity and the rest?

[split sedge]

And tauros paldea fire over honchkrow

With bu , trailblaze and stabs

Also change the evs of toxt to the ones from smogon dex

[uneven geode]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/toxtricity/

[ebon obsidian]

scyther?

[split sedge]

Scyther is alright id maybe change close combat over bugbite

[ebon obsidian]

alright

[faint torrent]

https://pokepast.es/7e65940f005c391fi i've been loving this team

[uneven geode]

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[fiery folio]

u added an 'i' to the link by accident

[faint torrent]

oh lol

https://pokepast.es/7e65940f005c391f

i haven't used synth on bonnet in a while

maybe stomping over synth,

[ebon obsidian]

https://pokepast.es/aef282b46f43bd3d

[uneven geode]

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[ebon obsidian]

its silly snowballing teams with swagger mirror herb honchkrow of all things

[uneven geode]

PU (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• Speed tiers
• Tiering and rules
• Simple questions, simple answers
• Metagame discussion thread
• Tiering information
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[gritty heath]

i dont get how the team is meant to pair with honchkrow

if u wanna go HO, i recommend a lead like lycanroc/froslass

and/or some form of speed control to support honch via para

btw bombirdier is the exact same type as honch

[split sedge]

^

Sry im bit busy to rate rn

[cosmic marten]

hasty nature

bombirdier...?

[faint torrent]

bleh :3

[ebon obsidian]

Huh?

Its jolly

[ebon obsidian]

Mustve put the wrong nature

[ebon obsidian]

https://pokepast.es/c6e53498fed6f54a

[uneven geode]

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[ebon obsidian]

Edited the team a bit

Needed a spinblocker, so i replaced scyther with deci

[ebon obsidian]

Okay i might fiddle some more, too much ice weakness

[split sedge]

Why ur still using honch

And you should prob run brave bird over parting shot or taunt

Just use pawmot over honchkrow and is prob a good team

[ebon obsidian]

well actually i wanted bombirdier to spam parting shots to soften blows against my sweepers

should i make bombirdier a legit attacker?

[split sedge]

Well you dont want to be passive with bombirdier

If u want to spam parting shot use grimsnarl

[ebon obsidian]

https://pokepast.es/e22ae51afe94d106

[uneven geode]

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[ebon obsidian]

does this look better?

[split sedge]

I would still make bull scarfed for speed control but yea

It does look better than was before

[ebon obsidian]

my gimmick honchkrow set when swagger misses (its all over)

also is sticky web hyper offense viable down here?

because the only sticky web setters are ZU (ariados, leavanny)

[split sedge]

Idt so

[ebon obsidian]

wait does the team need a spinblocker though?

like a ghost type or smth?

[split sedge]

If u really want to run tera ghost on bombird but idt u really need

Whole appeal of ho is that you pressure everything to dont give the opposing team free turns

[ebon obsidian]

ehhhh that seems like wasting ur tera

when you can tera normal the toxtricity for a souped up boomburst

[split sedge]

You can also use decidueye

If u want a offensive spinblocker

Maybe over pawmot or scyther or bull

[ebon obsidian]

i replaced scyther

[split sedge]

Id recommend spirit shackle over poltergeist

Bc if knock off + poltergeist is bad

[ebon obsidian]

i also hate ambipom

fuck ambipom

literally smashes my entire team

[split sedge]

Yea ho has a bad mu into it always

[ebon obsidian]

i am now an ambipom hater

[ebon obsidian]

https://pokepast.es/c8c01b80607ba606

[uneven geode]

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[ebon obsidian]

tried experimenting and fiddling with new mons

[split sedge]

"New" those are unviable

Hitmonlee , clawtzer is pretty bad

Just look at samples

[uneven geode]

PU (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• Speed tiers
• Tiering and rules
• Simple questions, simple answers
• Metagame discussion thread
• Tiering information
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[split sedge]

This team is quite literraly 6-0 by scarf florges

[ebon obsidian]

ouch

might add choice scarf ditto

[split sedge]

Ditto isnt exactly great

Very mu fishy

Its specifically a ho counterpick

[ebon obsidian]

switch ditto into a setup sweeper
kill everything

[ebon obsidian]

Damn meloetta is S tier?

[split sedge]

Yea its great

[faint torrent]

https://pokepast.es/7e65940f005c391f

i'll just place this here again....

[uneven geode]

New [Gen 9] PU RMT @split sedge, @fallow forum, @gleaming fractal. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[split sedge]

why covert cloak?

looks okay

[faint torrent]

I'm honestly not sure why. I think I stole the set from someone else

[split sedge]

id prob run boots or black glasses

[gleaming fractal]

cloak is to switch into gastro and other scalds

[faint torrent]

I was thinking of Stomping over Synth, but I'd need to see what it can do.

I usually haven't found use in Synth, its either I'm bad or its bad idk

[gritty heath]

that gastro set is off

ice beam or surf>muddy water and should just be bold with 31 spe ivs

doesnt have any reason to be slower

also the team lacks a great fighting check

arcanine is an already soft check

but without hdb its dying p quickly

unless gastro can switch into a bunh of cc, idk that calcs

[split sedge]

idk why just not switch scarfty

to switch on gastro and other scalds

like you can use gastro as fodder quite easily

idt u are going to switch bonnet on goodra regardless even if has scald

[gritty heath]

what even runs scald in our meta anymore
we lost milo and lanturn isnt used

and scald isnt on enough goodra sets to warrant worry

[split sedge]

true

[ebon obsidian]

milotic went up to NU?

[ebon obsidian]

gastrodon?

[split sedge]

It lost scald in sv

[karmic stirrup]

https://pokepast.es/f6b5db05ef2f496f

not quite PU, this one is meant for ZU, but i didnt see a channel for that
my goal was trying to make Bastiodon useful (an impossible task), plan is to

• set hazards
• stack hazards with qwilfish
• set trickroom
• roar spam to get chip
• try and sweep with glastrier, decidueye or farigaraf

[split sedge]

Zu is on the "UM" thread

[karmic stirrup]

ty

[split sedge]

np

[pseudo pine]

https://pokepast.es/8c8646e0759a5a8b

[uneven geode]

New [Gen 9] PU RMT @split sedge, @fallow forum, @gleaming fractal. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[split sedge]

Id recommend take a look at samples

[uneven geode]

PU (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• Speed tiers
• Tiering and rules
• Simple questions, simple answers
• Metagame discussion thread
• Tiering information
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[split sedge]

Rampardos is not viable , those sets are pretty bad

[pseudo pine]

He should be tbh

This team is incredibly good

Tailwind plus Scarf

Plus 165 base attack

Also you think they're bad but they really aren't

Ambipom only has Covet as a good STAB technician boost

[split sedge]

Ambipom only works well vs ho

[pseudo pine]

Yet I'm currently winning with this team

[split sedge]

Ladder is useless

[pseudo pine]

I don't wanna use the samples basically

[pseudo pine]

💀💀💀

[split sedge]

So look at vr and build a solid team

[split sedge]

Yea most ppl dont play serious or use serious teams

[pseudo pine]

The team is already solid?

[split sedge]

Its not

Rampardos is not viable and sets are bad

[pseudo pine]

Wait wait

[split sedge]

And the mons doesnt seem to fit welll

[pseudo pine]

You just said that nobody use serious teams

So why are you telling me to use viable teams 💀

Huh?

https://tenor.com/view/why-gif-9956941810919710312

[split sedge]

I said most

And yes

Ladder isnt serious

Why do you think theres tournaments

On smogon , roomtours

[pseudo pine]

Do you not see what you are saying

[split sedge]

If ur just trying to ladder and not build an actual competitive team then this place isnt for you

[pseudo pine]

You're telling me to use serious teams even though most people don't use serious teams

[split sedge]

Not on ladder

On tours they use

[pseudo pine]

That's still confusing

Word it differently next time

My team is perfectly fine

Actually question

[gritty heath]

id only use rampardos on tr

[pseudo pine]

Why do you say Rampardos is bad

[gritty heath]

its too slow to pull off an attack a lotta the time and we have better offence rock mons and a lotta rock resists

[split sedge]

It has horrible bulk

[gritty heath]

rhydon is top tier atm

so drastically overshadowed by that

[pseudo pine]

Ok you said it's too slow right??

I have 2 things on my team that gets rid of that problem

Scarf and Tailwind

So that problem is already negated

[split sedge]

Thats not consistent

[pseudo pine]

How

[split sedge]

And a scarf rampardos is still slow

[split sedge]

Because shockingly whims is frail

[gritty heath]

use lycanroc if u want a fast rock (given suicide lead is more common than choiced)

like i said if u really wanna use ramp specifically try it on a tr team

[pseudo pine]

It's one point under Lycanrocs speed 💀💀💀

[gritty heath]

p slow for a waste of an item slot

[split sedge]

Lycanroc still wins 1v1 prob

[pseudo pine]

Y'all are on crack LMAO

[split sedge]

Since is sash and endeavor

It can use accelrock

[gritty heath]

if u wanna use rampardos u do u, but ur not gonna get any good input on here if u insist what ur using is good and everyone else is wrong, kinda contradicts the point of posting

here

[pseudo pine]

I would love to smoke whatever y'all are smoking

[pseudo pine]

Cause you are wrong lmao