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quiet swallow
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And what item too? I think dug suicide lead is memento, eq and stealth rock yes?

slender geode
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Memento eq rocks stone edge

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Focus sash

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Well in that case i can just pass you a crab team

quiet swallow
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*PU

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quiet swallow
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Ok I've changed the HO team, check it out

slender geode
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double scarf is... odd.

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would rather have haunter on this team and change mabo w something else

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as i said u should prolly be DD zard

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also you didnt do ur formatting right

quiet swallow
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Ok so i changed it yet again

slender geode
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If ur going Ho raichu go np hdb

quiet swallow
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Np hdb?

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What does that even mean?

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uneven geodeBOT
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slender geode
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Hai frankie, sorry this got buried

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Ill finally take a look at it! :3

normal scaffold
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It's ok ☺️

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:3

slender geode
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I think for a stall team, this is a solid start but i have a few issues

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Firstly i think that lack of Knock on swalot is weird

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Allows it to force progress on mons sthat swap into it like skunk and sable and also allow it to take off shit like mini garg and whatever easier

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Also, this moght nust be a me thing… but the abomasnow mu doesnt look the greatest

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Looks to me it can break through this team fairly easily

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Maybe like a Cyro over Lurantis or something, not rly sure

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Other than that, team is incredibly solid. Not alot to say about it.

quiet swallow
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Can I ask for another rating? I changed the HO team with a medicham for some priority since i was losing games due to not having priority moves

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quiet swallow
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quiet swallow
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I only lose because I play bad

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Or some mons are surprisingly bulky

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(i still hate one max def and HP glaceon i fought)

craggy epoch
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something something webs something

slender geode
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Team seems extremely weak to Peko and Sableye

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as such would add a whiscash or sandslash here

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Maybe a whiscash over haunter, you have speed control w medi and you need a rocker

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Make sludge on weezing lefties too since ur not tera poison

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Also this is subjective but lev > ngas

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Perhaps flip turn over hydro pump on swanna too.

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Other than that team looks solid

slender geode
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Would rsther just be a scarf

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I would change that raichu set to just a more standard tera psychic w psychic over tera blast imo

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Subjective, but i feel like thunder punch is alot better than dragon claw on the 4th for zard

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Gives you a nice kill on swanna

quiet swallow
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I wanna keep claw for the apple dragon tho

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And i actually changed it again since you didn't answer when I sent this

slender geode
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What did you change it too

quiet swallow
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This is the new update

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quiet swallow
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I realized braviary ended up just dying 90% of the time

slender geode
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Make fake out on peko rapid spin

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Once again why is the medicham av

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Most of what i said on last team still applies

quiet swallow
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I didn't want a choice item in medi cause i wanted her to be my attacker with priority moves

slender geode
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Thats not a role she rly is great in

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Would rather just be like

quiet swallow
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Who is then?

slender geode
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Cc zen bullet punch trick

quiet swallow
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I'm losing some games due to not having priority moves

slender geode
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Thats not really a role most teams need

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But ig basculin

quiet swallow
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basculin?

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I meant IG it can work

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I'll change it rn

slender geode
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Yeah

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Oki

slender geode
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Would also probably add ajet somewhere on that samu

quiet swallow
slender geode
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Most farigs are double dance bullshit, although i think Np is fine for what this team is

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Would be tera fairy dgleam though on farig

slender geode
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Just replace the haunter for basculin

quiet swallow
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Aight

slender geode
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Yea

quiet swallow
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I would plan on sticky web if dug falls off, but so far it has worked for me

thin wharf
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thin wharf
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i made this team pre dlc

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how is it now

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thin wharf
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hows the meta looking now

slender geode
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You have like 0 swaps into any fighter ever

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Alot of swanna alot of articuno alot of weezing alot of morpeko alot of aboma

thin wharf
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aight

slender geode
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Might wanna chrck the vr

thin wharf
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are they updated yea

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ill get back to u after then

slender geode
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vr updated yeah

slender geode
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Im not really sure how this team deals with Abomasnow

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Haunter also does circles on this team

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thin wharf
slender geode
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Its still fairly workable

thin wharf
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how does bootspam snow sound

slender geode
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What would be your snow abuser

thin wharf
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prolly beartic but idk since its low on the vr

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even if i use snow or not i wanna build around articuno fr

slender geode
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Articuno is generally not something you build around

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More so it acts as support

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slender geode
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Te

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Ye

thin wharf
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is there a role compendium for dlc1 yet

slender geode
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Nope

thin wharf
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dang

thin wharf
slender geode
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Either works it really depends on the teamstructure

thin wharf
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ngl i have no idea what i want to build yet but i just threw these together cause it seemed fun to spam ground immunes

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thin wharf
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which now that im looking at it

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the ground types dont seem very prominent in the format

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slender geode
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Im not really sure on probopass here honestly

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I know its the main thing this team is built around but it seems pretty mediocre overall, being too slow and all

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Sand rly doesnt need more than Houndstone and Sandslash as setters

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I like knock more than Sedge than Sandslash if your running sand, although this is pretty subjective

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Poli does not really run an AV set ever, you can probably run a resttalk circle throw set to good effect

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Brav def should be HDB or another Flying type entirely imo

kind trout
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Yeah poli and brav were late additions, basically just threw on a counter to waters and grasses cause double ground + rock

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I've found pass to be pretty good, probably just people don't expect it though. Great special bulk with sand up too

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I was hesitant to run knock on slash cause poltergeist but it would probably be fine

slender geode
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Yeah

spare pumice
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Thoughts?

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I might want to make a team with Palossand as well cause I love that guy but this is my first PU team

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spare pumice
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Realized tidy up clears my sticky web, so went for another useful flying mon to remove some of my fighting and ground vulnerability

slender geode
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Squak and Furret are not viable all the sets range from unoptimal to unusable and most of the tera types are very odd

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Since we dont have samples sets up justtt yet ill send you a team and i would advise joining the pu discord if you havent already and also look at the vr

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!puresources

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compact prairie
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slender geode
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It seems like alot of stuff jumbled together, alot of the sets are odd

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Like why tera fighting chansey? Sub Rotom-F? Honchkrow? Why is there a ditto?

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slender geode
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Wdym lol

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idk I just think it's funny

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also uh, how would you go about fixing my team?

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slender geode
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Ditto isnt really good

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slender geode
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I would drop the ditto and honch for one

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and what else should I change?

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I kinda wanna have the best team for PU, since I wanna do tournaments and such if they are available

craggy dirge
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slender geode
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For

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slender geode
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Sball is unviable on chansey now just go Twave

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also tera fairy, not sure why your ground

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what else?

slender geode
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err

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i wouldl make the basculin Choice Scarf Rock Head

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replace Double Edge w flip turn too

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alr

slender geode
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i would giver the rotom volt switch over sub

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also make the cryo max speed, although tbh i dont think cyro fits

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might wanna opt for a different spinner like sandslash

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slender geode
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not llife orb sandslash no

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more so defensive heavy duty boots

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w rocks too

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roccks eq knock spin

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okay

slender geode
slender geode
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They can very easily will - o - wisp you and cause problems for your team

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Methibks i would change the brav for something else

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Maybe a Pyroar or Zard

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Why ground on Samu? I understand what your trying to do but it seems like an offensive tera is just much better

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Like dark or water

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Sandslash got banned from PU, and my team now has a hole in it, is there any changing? And who do I replace Sandslash with?

tight karma
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please I need fill the hole that Sandslash had left behind after it left to NU
he took the kids

slender geode
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PU changed so much your better off making a new team if im being real here

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or something

slender geode
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As i said your better of fmaking a new team

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The drops have shaken up the meta sm

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slender geode
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Reg rotom imo

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slender geode
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Yeah

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# slender geode Yeah

should I go for a trick room team, a snow team, a balanced team, or something else?

slender geode
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Probably balance

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slender geode
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Rest sleep talk night shade willo tera fairy

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let me know if there are things I need to change

slender geode
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you seem very weak to other zard

tight karma
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also I kinda wanna replace Houndstone with Sableye since it has prankster

slender geode
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wouldnt recc

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then your even more weak to most physical attackers

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also u dont have your cyro evs maxxed

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just seems like you threw a bunch of stuff together and called a it a day, tbh

tight karma
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oof

slender geode
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yeah

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slender geode
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i have given you answers

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wait

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why are you bite sneasel lol

tight karma
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idk I am using smogon sample sets

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so uh, idk what to actually do with the team

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slender geode
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yeahh

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slender geode
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ill try that

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slender geode
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Yeah go for it

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I havent even made ur team yet just got home

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is there anything in need of fixing with this one?

slender geode
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It seems like a pre dlc team

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Klawf is not that great imo anymore, also theres a big lack of offensive pressure methinks

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slender geode
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Better off asking in the nu discord

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okay, another team I made

tight karma
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Actually I replaced Morpeko with Heal Bell Chansey

slender geode
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i wouldnt be Icy Rock on Aboma. does not do anything for your team at all

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make it HDB

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i think you want to make that Rotom Scarf here tbh, also why is the Gurdurr Tera Fairy?

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would much rather make it Tera Dark or Fighting even

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what else needs changing?

slender geode
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hmm.... maybe remove sub on brav

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i would add CC.

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actually... cchange the abomasnow to Eject Pack

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gives you pivot potential with Leaf Storm

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hmm interesting

slender geode
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team seems kinda weak into stuff like muk though

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would perhaps add a weezing here or something, perhaps over Chansey?

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slender geode
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your not really weak to will o wisp

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slender geode
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not at all

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if so, then what moveset should I run on Weezing?

slender geode
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probably like

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willo clear smog split sludge bomb

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methinks

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slender geode
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tera ghost

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leftovers or rocky helm

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slender geode
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ngas

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slender geode
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This is good

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slender geode
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yes its good

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also can you please turn off reply pings

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ok one sec

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slender geode
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yes

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slender geode
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you didnt turn off reply pings

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and no

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slender geode
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No worries

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blazing shale
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sometimes idk wtf im doing :c

craggy dirge
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compact prairie
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But you don't have priority or speed with a scarfer, I am guessing you are dealing with the opponent speed with defensive core of weezing and chansey?

slender geode
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Feels like their roles get overlapped i would replace apples w something else like a poli or something

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Errr idt you need stone edge on golem? P sure it and rock slide both OHKO the targets ur hitting it with

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Subjective here but ghost > electric on rotom imo

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slender geode
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Do you just want me to check both

slender geode
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Hmmm i feel like you need a volt switchin

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A golem here somewhere

craggy dirge
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What Pokemon should I replace with Golem? What Pokemon should I use Volt Switch on?

delicate orchid
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i pretty much started playing the tier yesterday and didnt look too far into what was actually good but after a while i found some success with this team, touched top 500 for a bit but lost my last couple games. I originally had CB medi instead of lum but so far that has been going worse. Golduck is primarily for usurping ludicolo. Thoughts?

compact prairie
# delicate orchid i pretty much started playing the tier yesterday and didnt look too far into wha...

I like the team, since the mons in your team that can tank hits are golem, a ghost type is great to resist fighting (weavile also benefit from this).

You gotta be careful of choice band dugtrio and choice band tauros paldra because they can just spam earthquake, and earthquake isn't mitigated by fluffy. Especially if it's Tera ground.

You have prio + 2 tanky mon, but if they start to get chipped throughout the game be careful of the opponent fast Mon, or you can use scarf medicham with Tera fire. Tera fire let's you 1v1 sableye. Personally scarf medicham is the best set for me

slender geode
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Orth being around so much disways it hard so its not rly a thing you have to fear

marble lance
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Pu is alive

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!

slender geode
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CB tauros should be something to fear though

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@delicate orchid not sure why theres a houndstone here?

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I get you wanna limit hazards but if this is supposed to be Ho it does not rly fit

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I would honestly just go like NP willhex rotom here instead or something

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As che mentioned this should 100% be a choice scarf medi

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Make the tera fighting or psychic imo

marble lance
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Would orb/band medi work on webs

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General pu question

slender geode
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And change out to like

delicate orchid
slender geode
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Maybe trick fire punch choice scarf

slender geode
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Yeah even then not sure why theres a suicide golem and a hounds

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delicate orchid
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i have a lot of sweeping sets on here so thats where my mind went last night lmao

slender geode
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Right right

marble lance
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Ok

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Ty

slender geode
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I mean you could do CM Spiritomb too if you want a Bulky Spinblocker who also fits on ho

delicate orchid
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hound is something i kinda just slapped on at first for the hell of it but it actually has been one of the best performers weirdly

slender geode
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Golduck is def not the play here

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Generally speaking its not a very scary mon outside of rain

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And even then the set is questionable

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I would change it out entirely

delicate orchid
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yea golduck is the one thing that i knew would not be the ideal choice

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when it works to what i want it to work for its amazing, but that is just for the ludicolo mu

slender geode
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You can def add a flier to help your iffy eq spam mu. Something like a DD zard or a Viv works here

delicate orchid
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or poli ig

slender geode
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Oh if you have issues with Poli go DD viv then

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I mean

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Qd viv oops

delicate orchid
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lmao

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the idea with it is nasty plot on top of having a higher speed tier than poli and ludicolo, and using ludi specifically as bait by way of tera to eat a grass move and set up on it, then kill it

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admittingly, although it has worked like a dream nearly every time, any not ludi/poli mu it hasnt been that useful

slender geode
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Yyeahhh

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If your rly worried about the rain mu you can use an abomasnow instead

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Can still win vs EQ spam and gives you a favorable mu to rain

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slender geode
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Much rather have tpunch

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Your MU into other golem seems bad

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compact prairie
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That is a strong team

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Maybe memento on dugtrio can help veluza setup if the opportunity present it self, and colbur Berry on houndstone for more knock off safety

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You have great support core of healing wish and cryogonal as a glue Mon.

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And veluza is just scary if you can set it up

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slender geode
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alright

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here we go

slender geode
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generally speaking i think Stall is not that good atm since Offense is just so fucking bulky but ill try my best

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i think you dont need Weezing here. Its job is done well enough by hounds

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although i would make hounds Resttalk over Body press and Roar

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i would add a spinner to this team, too

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also your missing evs on weezing but since we are remoivng it it does not matter

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mayve a Cramor or a Lurantis or something as a defogger for hazard control actually

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lets you have a tad bit more pressure

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aside from that this is a solid team frankie!

slender geode
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tbh i dont like magcargo but i understand its the mon this team is built around so ill let this slide

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i dont think Spiritomb as a TR sweeper really works here... all of your other wincons are harmed by it

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i would change spiritomb to a more defensive set

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i think Magcargo wants to be Tera Grass fwiw

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your Muk / Weezing mu here is rly iffy

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i think you may want a Deedee or a Golem or something here, maybe Golem > Magcargo if your willing to get rocks still?

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not sure

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aside from that this team is perfectly fine

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maybe consider using Leech Seed > Recycle and change pack to something else on apples too

slender geode
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I wouldnt use Dugtrio Alola atm, its very bad imo, and especially notr Sucker when you have Terrain Extender ndd on this team

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even then wehy is the ndd extender? it does not really help your team much

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you dont need Sneasel to have Brick Break. All Sneasels NEED Knock off to do anything. Change the tera to dark or ice or ghost.

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Veluza wants recover or night slash on fillet away sets, change it

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make it Jolly too

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you have no hazards on this team which is very very odd

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which is why i would advise changing the dugtrio to something else

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pref something that beats Orthwrom as Worm as a very very potent MU into this team

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Maybe make the Indeedee something that is not Extender like Choice Scarf or something like that. Replace Encore with Hyper Voice

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i wouldnt say this team is a complete reset, although yeah theres def alot of work thats need to be done here.

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so take my advice and post the update asnd ill take a look when its done

slender geode
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use rest and tera fairy

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idt electrode is that great anymore, if you want to use a fast electric maybe use something like scarf raichu a

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Medicham def should not be that set, you probably want Tpunch over bullet and a different tera type

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maybe Psychic

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what else... no hazards

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major issue here, you probably need control too

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make the chansey have rocks over heal bell and slot in something like a Cyro here or soemthing

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maybe over Electrode, actually

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or Hound

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slender geode
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o so the wisp stuff oki

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compact prairie
# blazing shale https://pokepast.es/4a0b98494a530706

I like the team, it has momentum in all every pokemon except cryogonal. You actually can keep up the trend if u use komala for rapid spin since he get acces to u-turn.

Eject pack appletun make it so you don't lose much after dropping a Draco since you are out of there. And it's easy to capitalized on this by going clawitzer since that Mon hit very hard.

Utility Rotom cripples physical attacker with will-o-wisp then have acces to a strong hex.

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thin wharf
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i dont play pu that much so this is mostly guesswork and my limited knowledge

blazing shale
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@slender geode

thin wharf
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i saw someone use the alogolem in a sample and stole it

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this time with custap

tight sage
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Damn its just bella working on this?

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PU needs more help 😭

magic portal
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@slender geode pls help

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@tight sage this is my way of rating LOL

slender geode
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Ill get to this tonight at the store rn

tight sage
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Bella waking up to three pings to work on the same exact rate

slender geode
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4 actually

thin wharf
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someone get a new pu rater

tight sage
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Can we get to 5 maybe?

thin wharf
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got bella working a 9-5 doing ratings

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my b💤

slender geode
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Yeah sure whatever

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😭

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w bella ong

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carrying pu

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thin wharf
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i still dont know much about pu yet

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i still wanna build around the custap alogolem bec its actually so funny in that one sample i saw

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formal bolt
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Rotom and Persian are really strong defensively from my games

slender geode
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Ok fine ill do this.

slender geode
# tight karma https://pokepast.es/4a46059edb82395f

That medicham prohably wants tera blast fairy, helps w your iffy mu into the ghost dark types.
Hurricane > slash on zard too
You need flip turn on basc 100%, drop psyfangs imo
Rest is pretty standard and fine

slender geode
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I thibk lurantis here does not fit, same w custap golem a would rather make it lefties

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Thwacky sucks imo, change it to arbolivia or something

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You need to be tera fighting on pass

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Make the articuno tera flying if ur going offensive art,

slender geode
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Stone edge is needed on bombirdier, also subjective but i prefer rock as my tera

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Duggy A is kinda bad, make it something else like whiscash. Gives you hazards too which you dont have

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Defensive articunod oesnt need cane, haze is more valuable

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Rest is fine

slender geode
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Much of the same applys in the last post for this team too

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Maybe add rock slide on the golem and make tera ice tera electric

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Since grounds arent that common and tera electric body slam hits like a truck

slender geode
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Dont use it at all

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Ur team lacks offensive pressure imo

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Poli also does not use bd anymore since rain is banned

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Alot of these sets are odd

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Not sure why your foul play over taunt on pers

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Same w the not max spa rotom

formal bolt
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Bd still has put in work. I do agree furret should be swapped out, what could hold offensive pressure and still hazard removal you think?

slender geode
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Peko

thin wharf
formal bolt
slender geode
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Apple set is fine make the poliwrath just a BU set and change pjab w tera dark knock

formal bolt
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Lefties on poly?

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Expert belt could have it’s niche too

slender geode
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Not really no

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Lefites yea

split sedge
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uh the bot dindt ping so @slender geode can u help zoruapwead

slender geode
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In school

split sedge
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oh ok ill wait then

thin wharf
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thin wharf
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im slowly figuring it out but still relatively new to the tier

quartz trench
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Anyone wanna battle?

formal bolt
thin wharf
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imma be so fr i used smogon sets

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  • the swanna set from my other team
formal bolt
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I’d rather leave the real rates to the experts, but from what I do see, you’ve got so many passive mons with max defenses and mixed sets. There are a lot of grass types in the tier with better offense potential than apple (ludicolo, victribel, etc). I’d swap out fish for another stealth rocker, like max speed alola dugtrio. The swan, monkey, and fridge are fine, and I’ve got no idea if saltine is good or not.

thin wharf
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cool

formal bolt
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If Bella jumps in though, take her word, she knows more than me

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@slender geode
sorry if I am bugging you I just need your thoughts on my webs team

split sedge
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Idt specs alola raichu and life orb dug is good

slender geode
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Yes hello hi i forgot this existed

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Tbh…

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This is a complete redo

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Alot of sets r odd and alot of mons like lurantis or achu or adug dont fit in webs

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Also dont use masq as the setter anymore imo leav is better at the role

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slender geode
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Would say stuff like band passimian and the like

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slender geode
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Just stuff like pssinian

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ok

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and are Sneasel and Haunter still okay on my team?

tight karma
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and also can I just go all out and slap Slaking on the team?

slender geode
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You cannot

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slender geode
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Yeah

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o ok

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# slender geode Yeah

so uh, what pokemon should I replace Dugtrio and Raichu with, I kinda want you to be more specific if thats okay with you

slender geode
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Right right

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I would say something like.. hmm… NP rotom and a Band Basculin

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Or a Mystic Water Basculin actually

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split sedge
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rotom fan maybe

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because is bulkier than base

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split sedge
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prob blue striped or base

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either way ig both work similar

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1 just does more dmg and dies a bit faster

slender geode
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Blue and Adapt

split sedge
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Huh kinda suprised ngl

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Id thought fan would be better bc is less easier to get revenge killed but i mean base has great stabs so

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are Haunter and Sneasel still good on my team?

slender geode
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alr

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thin wharf
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i changed the boots on apple and cash to lefties

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slender geode
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okok

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i think having sneasel is fine

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change the tera on rotom to tera electric

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haunter now feels like the odd one out here imo

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u dont need 2 ghosy

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ghosts

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would have like a Vivilllon or Tauros instead

slender geode
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probably would make the swanna brave bird..?

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surfless whiscash is also rly rly weird so i would go surf over stone edge

slender geode
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this is alright

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a subjective dchange but i prefer psyshock more on my raichus atm

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u def wanna be cane on that cram too... consider tera ground aswell? Volt Switch can kinda go through ur team atm

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ur missing 4 evs on passim

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i feel like Thwacky on its own is p trash now, so i would consider something else for that slot

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maybe a victreebel...

split sedge
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Kk ty

slender geode
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yeah

split sedge
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I just thought vic is only viable on sun

slender geode
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ehh not rly

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let me give u the set i had in mind

split sedge
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Bc is mainly where i saw

thin wharf
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[SET]
Name: Special Attacker
move 1: Strength Sap
move 2: Leaf Storm
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Knock Off
Item: Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: Timid
Evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
tera type: Fire

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something like this leo

split sedge
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Thanks ill give a try cathug

slender geode
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nws let me know how this goes

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slender geode
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Kanto

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ooo ok

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which is better tho? I kinda wanna pick Vivillon but it's being suspect but I need more special attackers on my team

formal bolt
split sedge
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im basically 6-0 by it lol

slender geode
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hmm

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maybe just go a muk then

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instead of victree

split sedge
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just usnure if ill really beat it with muk

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bc sure i can set curse but wont sneasel prob outdamage me?

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slender geode
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ehh i thinkk i would go tauros

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fits more

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ooo ok

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I still do kinda wanna pick Vivillon because I need more special attackers

slender geode
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not rly

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just wondering if there are any further change I can do

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vague edge
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Ah really sorry

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Need to go to NU

slender geode
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So this is completely unrateable

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I would recc checking Pu forums for stuff anout pu if ur seriously interested in it

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!puresources

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vague edge
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Thank you

slender geode
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Nws

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slender geode
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register

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slender geode
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PU server

slender geode
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how so?

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slender geode
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im not sure what issue you are having

tight karma
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o wait

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slender geode
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can u send ur smogon forums account here

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slender geode
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hm

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that should be right

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dunno what the issue is

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slender geode
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just wait methinks

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nvm I did it

slender geode
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Ok

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hyper offense rocks

slender geode
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can you wait

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you dont need to ping me

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slender geode
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Ok so

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The avalugg wants tera ghost

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Tauros needs zen headbutt atp

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Pver assurance

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I think having 3 choice mons is weird

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Especially as your Ho with only one actual setup user

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I would just drop all 3 for different mons tbh

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oh i meant to put lefties on carb

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# thin wharf https://pokepast.es/9887b5cb34a31d36

I like the team, you have volt turn + scarf Rotom for speed. And whiscash is there to stop opponent volt turn also soak up damage from special attacker like zard and pyroar.

Just be careful of morpeko, I see this team get overrun by morpeko once everyone is weakened.

slender geode
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I think this team is a bit interesting although a bit too offensively limited

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I also think you need a stronger eel counter because rn coil or av eel can v easily run through this team

thin wharf
slender geode
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Maybe a different ground than whis like a colbur berry palossand

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Why do you have spikes on both whis and bink

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Actually why do you have bink in general here?

thin wharf
slender geode
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Lmao

thin wharf
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i think i just wanted something defensive that wasnt naclstack

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whats the set for palo

slender geode
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You can do like Rocks Stabs Shore up or Rocks Sball Sludge Bomb Shore up

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Make the item colbur

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Makes a better defensive pairing w arti imo

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I would also change out bink

thin wharf
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this the nu sample set

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is that good enough

thin wharf
slender geode
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I would much rather have a main wincon here since you dont seem to have any

thin wharf
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bet

thin wharf
slender geode
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Hmmm

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Doesnt sound bad

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Lefties over orb

thin wharf
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heard

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Yeah

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Rest seems alright enough

silent slate
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peep the team

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grassy surge

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wait hold on why am i not using grookey

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gimme a sec

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re-peep the team

slender geode
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I am going to recommend you to play w a sample team first

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The main reason is simply because there is too much to fix without me making a new team

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Most sets are incredibly ofd

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Odd

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Is it a grassy terrain team w no abusers of gterrain?

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Even w gterrain help your still extremely weak to any eq ever

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is this still good

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its a pre dlc 2 team

split sedge
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im not rmt but i dont like komala here and floatzel mayb should be choice band

slender geode
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This team looks ok but there are some issues to it

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As leo said, Komala is def not something i think fit here, imo probably want something like Arbolivia who can be a reliable switchin to Rhydon because atm this team looks kinda though to switch in to ti

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Go choice band tera blast tera electric or fairy on float.

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Idt you need the extra speed on arti nor do you need tera ground; slower uturns are always better. Make the arti 30 ivs in soeed and no speed evs and give it either steel or dragon

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something like this?

slender geode
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Rest seems ok though

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split sedge
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i think u should redo the team it looks really bad even though im not RMT

slender geode
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Agree with leo here 100%

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Im not extremely high on this team at all

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Of the sets are really bad and some of these mons arent even viable anymore

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Like Pachirisu and Duggy

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If i tried to rate this i would literally have to remake an entire team for you

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I would advise checking out the resources pu has @plucky cradle

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I know I screwed something up with this team lol

slender geode
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No offense but

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This team seems really bad

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Your weak to alot of stuff like Virizon and Sandaconda and others

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Alot of these mons also arent rly viable atm

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Like cryo and bombird and apples

tight karma
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again my username fits me

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so uh, should we try to salvage this one or

slender geode
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In goinf to lean no

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In fact i should have asked them to close this place

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Since we have such a major shakeup

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oh

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ok

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slender geode
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Probably yeah

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Or you can just @ me in compgen

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slender geode
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I keep my dms closed

slender geode
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We back

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balanced

slender geode
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Feels like an old meta team w a sandaconda and registeel

split sedge
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also peko is kinda unviable rn

slender geode
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Yeah

split sedge
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and i dont like that cuno spread

slender geode
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And rotom base to an extent too

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I dont like the regi set here tbh

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Would use bpress over rest

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oh

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wait whats viable rn again?

split sedge
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i think you could use decidueye

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as hazard removal

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over morpeko

slender geode
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Deci would be nice here yea

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Im not sure on arti

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At least w that arti set

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Would rather be the spd tank

split sedge
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yea

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split sedge
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to stop stored power stuff

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otherwise alcremie sits on you

slender geode
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Arti

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o

slender geode
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Yeah

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split sedge
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maybe use electrode hisui over rotom but idk

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split sedge
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prob 252 speed and 252 spa

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and tbolt , volt , leaf storm , tera blast with boots

slender geode
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Or taunt if tera blast isnt what you want

split sedge
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yea

slender geode
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Taunts fine too

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Either like

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H trode or a scarf rotom mow w like

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Leaf storm volt switch trick np / tbolt / tera blast

tight karma
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idk which is better

split sedge
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both works

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rotom has a bit more bulk but helec is the fastest mon

slender geode
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^

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So it depends if you care for bulk or speed

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Either or works tbh

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sheesh I think now my team is weak to fire

split sedge
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and rotom scarf can also disrupt defensive stuff

split sedge
slender geode
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Change tera fire to water on regi btw

split sedge
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there isnt many but yea

slender geode
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Theres also not rly alot of fires

split sedge
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mayb just change tera

slender geode
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Yeah tera is fine

split sedge
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like only fire mon i can think of

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is typh

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rain is rly rly good rn

slender geode
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Theres a few others like

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Sometimes zard

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But thats not rly common and typh gets screwed by rocks

split sedge
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preety much

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slender geode
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Would be fairy on deci

split sedge
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ok ig

slender geode
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Also yeah looks alright

split sedge
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i do think u could try physical decidueye

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but special is also good , yea tera should be fairy

slender geode
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Drop rest on regi

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For bpress

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And then this is goof

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or are you referring to hard press

slender geode
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You do not

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Oh wait you do

split sedge
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yea

slender geode
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Add amnesia over rest

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slender geode
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Its not rly much to worry about

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You just keep setting

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ooo k

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anythinng else I can change or am i good?

slender geode
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Your good

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mhm

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keep in mind, I will be back here with a bulky or hyper offense team

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since I wanna have multiple teams in PU

split sedge
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np

slender geode
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Nws

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Just dont like

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Put 7 different teams here in the span of 6 hours or something like that

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o ok

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here is my bad, scuffed, really horrible HO PU team I made

split sedge
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If u wanna use shaymin is better use scarf with healing wish over dazz gleam

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Also you should have tera blast over dazz gleam and tera fire on fari

slender geode
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I wouldnt use shaymin in general here

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Maybe like an SD viriz instead

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Not very happy w the last 3 members of the team in general

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Maybe add a different mon entirely over float here

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Consider like a veluza or something like that methibks

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Farig should be something else too

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You could honestly go double dd and go oricorio pau here w tera fairy

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Oh yeah change eq on hlugg to bpress

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The rest looks fairly standard to me

split sedge
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yea that works too

slender geode
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Ye

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you prob want speed evs over spa and rapid spin over flash cannon

slender geode
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Tera grass giga drain over tera blast ground?

slender geode
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Or honestly just dont use cyro in general

deep bolt
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I didn't know what to pick 😭

slender geode
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Maybe like a lanturn or something?

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U have issues w fire types methinks

split sedge
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yea

deep bolt
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I forfeit when I see a fire type with dead sandaconda

slender geode
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Yeah thats an issue

deep bolt
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Yeah and I couldn't find a viable water type that isn't physical (skipped over lanturn)

slender geode
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Use lanturn over cyro

deep bolt
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Sooo other than that it's alr?

slender geode
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Seems decent enough yeah

split sedge
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you will just lack hazard removal

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but should be fine

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just becareful vs webs

deep bolt
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Wait there's webs?

slender geode
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Theres webs

deep bolt
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I just found a team with webs-

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slender geode
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Also ur fine w the power viriz is enough

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slender geode
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Nope

tight karma
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Ok then, I trust you

slender geode
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Ok

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or Pa-ucorio, idk

slender geode
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Its fine

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tried to make a bulky offense (or just offense) team

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(Not HO, just BO or just offense)

slender geode
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Will take a longer look later tongiht but

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This is gonna be changed alot

tight karma
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i know, again my teambuilding is scuffed

slender geode
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@tight karma i first wanna say the last 4 mons are all kind of uhh

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Komala sucks, offensive arti sucks, samu is ok but kinda outclassed atm, Medicham is a bit shit

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Why is your magneton not Analytic? Also i would be another tera, like grass or something

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Swap air slash on shaymin for dgleam

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That articuno 100% should be a defensive spresd

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Or

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Drop arti and samu, add like a Lanturn and a Bronzong or something

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You dont switch into Physical Attacks that well atm

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Or lanturn alolan sandslash, so you can fit physwall, rocks, and spin into one mom

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Mon

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Either way you need hazard here

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I would drop the Medicham for another Physical Attacker… maybe another fighting type or something

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can you do all of this and then send it again @tight karma

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idt life orb shaymin is good, but you prob could keep it

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i personally wouldnt recommend bc chips you in range of stuff way too quickly

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also lanturn is usually spdef

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i think that brozong could be iron defense body press over hypnosis , earthquake , change that gurdurr to hariyama since preety much hariyama prob outclasses it now. tbh if u wanna have a better way to handle physical attacks you can use decidueye , wo chien , vileplume they are better defensive grass mons overall

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split sedge
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Well id make brozong have a bit more physical defensive evs ig over spdef , on laturn too

slender geode
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ok time to look over these

slender geode
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I would go w Regirock w max hp max def rocks, body press, dstone edge, and twaave over bronzong

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make the lanturn Tera Grass or Flying imo

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Sandslash should have triple axel over icicle crash, tera grass on magneton

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make hariyama thick fat leftovers bulk up max hp max atk drain punchh knock bullet punch bulk up imo

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after that the team is fine

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You need sands on Magmortar imo, youu can drop overheat

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im not sure on SpD plume; i would rather use Wo Chein over it

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something like Max HP max SpD Knock Leech Ruination filler or something like that

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Magneton needs to have max speed

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Im ok with Sandaconda set, but i think you need rest; you can drop stone edge. Make it rocky helm too imo

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Basculin atmis kinda bad and im not sure on it

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i would rather add another wallbreaker; maaybe like a Choice Band Lycanroc or something

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rest seems fine though

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split sedge
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i think you just might want iron defense over twave on regirock

slender geode
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I disagree

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Twave is fine

slender geode
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ok

slender geode
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Yeah

crude haven
slender geode
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hi

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not the sun team oh god

crude haven
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Tbh maybe I'd be better off with a sunny day user rather than vulpix

slender geode
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no pix is fine

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ill take a peak at this in a bit

crude haven
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Alr thx

crude haven
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I'm gonna go to bed rn, so whatever you write I'll read in the morning

slender geode
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Im not sure why you dont have all your evs invested on shiftry.... Just use 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe w like a hasty nature

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Pix imo is nice as tera ghost since it lets you block a stray spin but it doesnt rly matter since ur not teraing pix ever

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Zard set is a bit iffy you dont need overheat, use another coverage option like sands or something instead

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i get what you were trying to do w the last 3 mons on this team but none of them don't really work well here; regi and deci hate being on sun and weezing is too slow for HO

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(since sun is HO)

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so, heres my suggestions to change:

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first: You wanna add a volbeat here. Make it heat rock sunny day uturn encore twave. Gives you useful secondary support when Pix goes down.

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two: Make your rocks mon be something like Sash Stealth Rock Lycan or Primape, gives you the ability to have rocks in a more offensive team

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third: maybe another Sun Sweeper? Ive seen alot of Victreebell and Eggs again, maybe try a growth set on one of them. I think Victreebell fits more here as having a grouunded poison is nice.

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aside from thaat the team looks pretty standard to me, it is sun after all

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if @split sedge has anything to add to this that i may have missed ill let him give his opinion but i think i covered all the main points already

split sedge
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Well yea alongside those changes. I think u could use specs zard maybe if you wanna run overheat but id advise u get hattrem to keep any hazard always off but unsure how viable is hattrem rn

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And i think u might want weather ball on shiftry over heatwave , u could mayb run air slash instead of overheat to hit stuff like hariyama (if u wanna keep boots) , drop focus.blast for schorching sands

crude haven
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But ty

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split sedge
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looks good just unsure if u need that much of utlity moves on lead lycanroc id change endeavor maybe

crude haven
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To what?

split sedge
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hm

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actually i think u can keep endeavor i just thought would be nice to have a way to beat spinners with like close combat or something but tera ghost should do fine to not let spinners spin

slender geode
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You can make a slight optimization having 0 ivs in all defensive stats but its not needed

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Also drop air slash for focus blast

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And make volbeat not max speed and instead max def since prankster means it doesnt rly matter about speed and also it just likes to click slow uturns more imo

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You dont wanna have a fast uturn and get your sun sweeper ohkod yknow

crude haven
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Could I put mememto > wisp on vulpix or would I rather save itfor healing wish?

slender geode
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uneven geodeBOT
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New PU RMT @slender geode, @split sedge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tight karma
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it's kinda 4x weak to Ground and 3x weak to Fire

split sedge
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I think is fine

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Maybe change life orb for lefties on shaymin? Idk tbh

slender geode
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Types

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Considering you have a shaymin a lanturn and a thick fat hari

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I think the speed control is a bit lacking tho