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lavish ridge Oct 12, 2025, 2:29 PM

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Snael isn't on the first team :x

stray sleet Oct 12, 2025, 2:29 PM

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oh

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u were refering to that flop

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mbmb

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i can try this

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catheart thx

stray sleet Oct 13, 2025, 2:43 PM

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https://pokepast.es/5171d2f0751be907 zoruapwead my appologies for like 3 ping in 2 days 😭 (i am on cap addict i promise i wont post tmr ) sometimes mollux feels lackluster as the solo removaler and zama is idk i never used in to be brutally honest 😭

autumn brambleBOT Oct 13, 2025, 2:43 PM

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New [Gen 9] CAP RMT @dark frost, @lavish ridge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

stray sleet Oct 13, 2025, 2:46 PM

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oh smth to reguard about zama moveset from both samples w/ zama they run this set for argau(ocotpus pirate) /snael/cres?

forest wadi Oct 13, 2025, 2:58 PM

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my appologies for like 3 ping in 2 days

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i wish i got 1 ping in a month

stray sleet Oct 13, 2025, 2:58 PM

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sad_dawn avg "others" rater

stray sleet Oct 13, 2025, 3:09 PM

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forest wadi i wish i got 1 ping in a month

||when was your last rate(legit ones)||

lavish ridge Oct 13, 2025, 4:17 PM

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stray sleet https://pokepast.es/5171d2f0751be907 <:zoruapwead:1084652320236773396> my appolo...

Honestly I appreciate any and all rating pings...I enjoy rating and for me it is easier in here than on the forums lol

As for the team, I don't like having multiple status unless you are using like Hex Pult so I would be down to see Knock on Clef > TWave and maybe run Foul Play > Knock on Argh and Tera Dark to avoid a potential 6-0 from Psychic types lol and maybe going with either EQ or something else for Glisc as being just a Facade "bot" is rough as it makes you more of a Tera hog than needed (which it should be Normal type not Water btw)

I am not sure on Zama for this team personally but if you use it I think IronPress would work best here. The team as a whole does kinda struggle with Glisc but not sure how to fix that issue off the rip

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You could go Ice Beam Clef to "surprise" Glisc but not sure just how much that would do

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0 SpA Clefable Ice Beam vs. 244 HP / 228+ SpD Gliscor: 220-260 (62.5 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal

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This is not terrible but it would force a potential Tera

stray sleet Oct 14, 2025, 7:41 AM

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catheart ic ic regarding the gliscor issue wouldn’t clef take care of util sets and arg for sd sets esp with the foul play u mentioned

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i have also thought of krai > zama here cuz it gives ice beam for scor and psychic dark resist

stray sleet Oct 14, 2025, 7:51 AM

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stray sleet <:catheart:1208362051718877194> ic ic regarding the gliscor issue wouldn’t clef ...

or does scor out last them

lavish ridge Oct 14, 2025, 1:23 PM

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stray sleet or does scor out last them

A well played Scor can outlast them

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But Argh with Foul Play would work for SD sets though folds to utility and even Utility sets can still take on Clef but it would be a stallier matchup

lavish ridge Oct 14, 2025, 1:24 PM

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stray sleet i have also thought of krai > zama here cuz it gives ice beam for scor and psych...

This could work

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Gives the team some power with speed too

stray sleet Oct 14, 2025, 4:23 PM

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love tysm i will settle with krai then

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 11:01 AM

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concern after more games , is kitsunoh is better substitute for necturna idk why but necturna feels pretty “useless” (tho it breaks fat but scor is also there ) like i meant smth like this https://pokepast.es/895a4cea93b6d8b6 boohoo

autumn brambleBOT Oct 16, 2025, 11:01 AM

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New [Gen 9] CAP RMT @dark frost, @lavish ridge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 11:02 AM

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and would i need any another changes as kit as now be my “ speed control”

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(and smh smh smh the ground fire type technician thing kinda breaks my team ) (idk if i can patch that issue with my slot of krai if kit is good as speed con if not then i will just let it be 😞🙏 cuz felt like that thing is a wall breaker )

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|| off topic but what archetype does that mon fit on cuz it seems fun||

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 2:46 PM

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First off dw about Smokomodo...it isn't the greatest CAP unfortunately so even if it does look good into your team it is almost never used 🙁

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 2:46 PM

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cereal

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 2:47 PM

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As for the team it looks extremely solid fwiw but Kit does like hazardstack a LOT since it blocks the best spinner in the tier (Equilibra)

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So it should fit extremely well here and like you said you Scor for fatter teams which is what Nect usually preys on

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Only thing I would do is Normal Tera on Scor, Fairy Tera probably on Kit (it is flexible though) and go Sludge Bomb > Knock on Krai

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Tera Poison + Sludge Bomb almost OHKOes or does OHKO Cresc at +2

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 2:49 PM

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✍️

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why is tera normal better on scor despite its not facade

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 2:50 PM

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+2 252 SpA Tera Poison Darkrai Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Cresceidon: 306-360 (84 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 2:50 PM

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stray sleet why is tera normal better on scor despite its not facade

Ope mb I thought it had Facade LOL

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It should tbh

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 2:50 PM

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so i go facade psyconfused

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 2:50 PM

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If you are SD, it should be Facade...the 4th move is in contention as to what it should be

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After SD, Tect, Facade

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I like EQ personally here since you have Kit to mess with Libra

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 2:51 PM

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ic ic

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if thats the case do i also get another knock as now its mono knock on clef

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(oh wait i have knock krai but i never click that clueless )

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 3:13 PM

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You can run mono Knock with no issues imo

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Stuff that switches into Clef like Libra and Mollux hate losing their item anyways

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 3:15 PM

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✍️

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catheart for the 4th time thx (😭i am playing with toxic smoko rn thats another rmt flop sorry)(tmr tho)

lavish ridge Oct 16, 2025, 3:22 PM

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Lol you're all good

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I am just happy to have something to rate ngl 😅

stray sleet Oct 16, 2025, 3:26 PM

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yei

stray sleet Oct 17, 2025, 4:14 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b78713ba2d6141ce /https://pokepast.es/fb12bbf9a21678e2 the first one is just p weird idk what structure chroma prefers but also loses to cres 😭 later one kinda also doesnt like cres unless i smh land a toxic w smoko

autumn brambleBOT Oct 17, 2025, 4:14 PM

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New [Gen 9] CAP RMT @dark frost, @lavish ridge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

stray sleet Oct 17, 2025, 4:15 PM

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prolly both teams need smth for cres (there is tera electric zama but chroma wants to tera normal)

lavish ridge Oct 17, 2025, 8:19 PM

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stray sleet https://pokepast.es/b78713ba2d6141ce /https://pokepast.es/fb12bbf9a21678e2 th...

Okay so for the first team

You want Silk Scarf on Chrom...you need that slight power boost to nab some calcs (can't remember them off the top of my head but spoo just posted about it and it is a necessity for the item)
Personally think Rev is a better option here over Pult as you have conflicting status ailments and Chrom appreciates para support more than burn support. Either that or make Pult Specs and just spam moves while still keeping a pivot
As for the Cresc problem, I genuinely believe you just need to run Sludge Bomb on Venom maybe over Body Press as Cresc doesn't like staying in on it...also would need Knock + hazards to truly pressure it but you can probably play around it as Chrom would hit it hard af

lavish ridge Oct 17, 2025, 8:26 PM

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stray sleet https://pokepast.es/b78713ba2d6141ce /https://pokepast.es/fb12bbf9a21678e2 th...

Now for the second team

I am just not a big fan of Smoko generally but the set itself seems a bit odd...I like BU just to give itself more power so I would go BU > Toxic
As for the Cresc problem for this team, you could run the more offensive LO Zama set or just run 4 Atks with Boots

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Something like this:

Ability: Dauntless Shield  
Tera Type: Electric / Dark
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- Wild Charge  
- Stone Edge / Howl```

stray sleet Oct 18, 2025, 4:31 AM

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✍️ mewheart catheart blob_heart

sudden apex Oct 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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https://pokepast.es/685188dc5322cd12

dreamy geyser Oct 18, 2025, 6:24 AM

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For what tier is this for?

forest wadi Oct 18, 2025, 6:56 AM

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well it has a mega scolipede so no tiers

dreamy geyser Oct 18, 2025, 7:23 AM

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It could have been for some weird Pet Mod, maybe, but realistically yeah

autumn brambleBOT Oct 18, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Hey @swift trout, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9anythinggoes team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

swift trout Oct 18, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Whoops

autumn brambleBOT Oct 19, 2025, 2:12 AM

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Hey @outer crane, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9anythinggoes team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

summer iris Oct 20, 2025, 5:07 PM

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dreamy geyser For what tier is this for?

Would custom game count as a tier? In which it’d probably be in UM-rates instead anyways but still, just wondering

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In which this team would likely suck since its absolutely suboptimal (max teamsize limit eternamax moment)

dreamy geyser Oct 20, 2025, 7:15 PM

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Custom Game is a Solomod, so it'd go here, yeah

dusty cliff Oct 21, 2025, 12:07 PM

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https://pokepast.es/2db31f25b732f473

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lf help

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read desc

dreamy geyser Oct 21, 2025, 7:59 PM

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Reminder that AG rates go in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1208795569649356820 , but in any case this'd demand a whole other team as nothing here is viable over there, I'd recommend to remove Sneasler then ask for help filling the remaining team slot for this team for an OU setting in #comp-general

autumn brambleBOT Oct 22, 2025, 2:41 PM

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Hey @stark halo, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9anythinggoes team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

stark halo Oct 22, 2025, 2:43 PM

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This this bot is very helpful…

stray sleet Nov 7, 2025, 2:59 PM

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https://pokepast.es/91ef7e87a6ab0424 boohoo uh tried reven+garg+deox and idk what to do with corv move set cuz i kinda want pivot which leaves me with only idbp/bb+smth(which defog doesnt rlly fit) and i chose taunt . Smth kinda concerning is mono knock mainly (a bit shaky kyurem mu might need to go spdef on garg ig)

autumn brambleBOT Nov 7, 2025, 2:59 PM

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New [Gen 9] CAP RMT @dark frost, @lavish ridge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

lavish ridge Nov 7, 2025, 3:29 PM

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stray sleet https://pokepast.es/91ef7e87a6ab0424 <:boohoo:1293682061441237044> uh tried reve...

First off, Deoxys-Speed feels super out of place here as it is more seen on offense/HO and this is more of a balance/BO team so I would recommend swapping that out with a fast Mon that fits better on these kind of teams like Pult (Double Ghost is fun) or Cresc (helps a little with the Kyu MU)

Honestly Taunt Corv could work to force Argh to not set up Spikes or use Recover but if you want to run hazardstack, I'd recommend fitting the best Spinner the tier i.e. Equilibra as Mollux isn't the best at spinning away hazards but that kinda compounds weaknesses so your choice to go that route

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If you stick with Corv I would make sure it creeps the slower mons like Hemo so it can't heal or set up when it switches out

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Which is 200 iirc (although that is 124 EVs so that may be too much to ask of Corv lol)

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Also IDBP Corv helps with Kyurem

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If you wanna do that with Roost and U-turn

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But you lose valuable Flying STAB :/

lavish ridge Nov 7, 2025, 3:34 PM

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stray sleet https://pokepast.es/91ef7e87a6ab0424 <:boohoo:1293682061441237044> uh tried reve...

I think best option is Cresc > Deo and swap Corv to IDBP to ease Kyurem MU. If you are worried about Knock spam you can go the Rough Skin + Rocky Helmet combo on Cresc too to just ease that chip damage on the opponent

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And punish them trying to rid Mollux of its Boots

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I also like Covert Cloak for Rev especially here so you can use non-Curse Garg as set up bait

stray sleet Nov 7, 2025, 3:36 PM

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✍️ catheart ic ic

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but i wont hv a knock if i run cresc tho

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or would that still be fine

lavish ridge Nov 7, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Hmm not ideal with hazardstack... :/

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Lemme think on that

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Actually wait

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We can use my boi > Corv

autumn brambleBOT Nov 7, 2025, 3:38 PM

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Shox (Gen 9)

Typing

Electric / Normal

Abilities

0: Electromorphosis | 1: Sticky Hold | H: Cud Chew

Base Stats (BST: 550)

136 / 55 / 87 / 108 / 108 / 56

Weight

99.9 kg (80 BP)

Gender Rate

50% Female

stray sleet Nov 7, 2025, 3:38 PM

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wow

lavish ridge Nov 7, 2025, 3:38 PM

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Gives you a Knock absorber too

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Issue is the team is extremely Ground weak atp

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But you could make Shox Tera Flying and use that

stray sleet Nov 7, 2025, 3:39 PM

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tysm mewheart

lavish ridge Nov 7, 2025, 3:39 PM

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Of course. Feel free to test and lemme know how it goes 🙂

stray sleet Nov 7, 2025, 3:41 PM

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defo will psycheer

stray sleet Nov 9, 2025, 3:33 PM

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ok uh i tested more on previous team and scor (toxic eq) flipped me 😭(despite garg n ice beam on shox clueless ) anyways uh https://pokepast.es/2c70ebd73cb49c96 yei i got a new team didnt hv much time for testing prolly just 5~ games

autumn brambleBOT Nov 9, 2025, 3:34 PM

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New [Gen 9] CAP RMT @dark frost, @lavish ridge. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

stray sleet Nov 9, 2025, 3:35 PM

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(this team feels weird tho its just like "a bit of this and a bit of that" cuz its uh it doesnt make that much progress smh(skill issue mainly) so maybe np ghold could work?)

lavish ridge Nov 9, 2025, 4:23 PM

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stray sleet ok uh i tested more on previous team and scor (toxic eq) flipped me 😭(despite g...

Okay so first off...while I understand the basis of the team was offensive IDBP Zama...I am not a fan of trying to combine both of its sets...if you wanna be offensive just go Boots 4 Attacks

I also think Ghold's Tera should be Fairy as I assume it is Steel on accident lol

Lastly, Gliscor needs EQ just to have solid STAB since it has no SD to offset using a non-STAB move

But other than those slight changes team looks solid. I don't see any glaring weaknesses but can take a deeper look here after awhile

stray sleet Nov 10, 2025, 1:45 AM

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✍️ so it’s sedge>id on zama/eq>u-turn on scor/tera fairy on dengo( OhNo actually didn’t realise that cuz i just tera garg mostly mamogus )

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Blob_Sip catheart appreciate it

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:05 AM

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https://pokepast.es/f1c43682ab464b36
help me o' wise ones

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@sudden notch does this not work because im a comp helper

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do you wanna steal my role temporarily so i can retry

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https://pokepast.es/f1c43682ab464b36
we try again, o wise ones help me

autumn brambleBOT Nov 10, 2025, 2:06 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:06 AM

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...

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oh there you go

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 2:06 AM

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That worked

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:06 AM

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enjoy trying to fix that mess of a etam btw

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heliolisk and spdef sciz just kinda suck

undone venture Nov 10, 2025, 2:07 AM

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punt the clefable

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:07 AM

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the clef isn't even the worst part of the squad

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its just like drop twave for flamethrower and its way better off cus u cook exca

obsidian ingot Nov 10, 2025, 2:13 AM

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W

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:15 AM

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shame comphelpers cant use rmt

sudden notch Nov 10, 2025, 2:16 AM

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i mean you could

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:16 AM

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won't get the ping sadly

sudden notch Nov 10, 2025, 2:16 AM

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just need to do it the old fashion way of tagging manually

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:16 AM

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surely chatot would strike me down

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where i stand

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or the automod

sudden notch Nov 10, 2025, 2:16 AM

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nope

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comp helpers are immune to it

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....i think

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:17 AM

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@obsidian ingot @summer kraken @scarlet jetty @undone venture @echo swallow @fierce path

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well it doesnt kill me so sure

dreamy geyser Nov 10, 2025, 2:17 AM

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I presume that the reason it's laid like this is so that comp-helps won't ironically ping Chatot when posting a fixed team
TBH it'd be ideal if a Chatot command was added so comp-helpers could use the RMT channels like regular users that way

sudden notch Nov 10, 2025, 2:17 AM

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i couldve checked but yea

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:17 AM

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dreamy geyser I presume that the reason it's laid like this is so that comp-helps won't ironic...

thats exactly why iirc

sudden notch Nov 10, 2025, 2:17 AM

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it is

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but like also just manually tag. aint that hard

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:18 AM

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yeah considering it doesnt

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strike me down

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i can jsut manual tag

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i hope these za raters are ready for pure suffering

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yippee

dreamy geyser Nov 10, 2025, 2:18 AM

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It'd take more time than just doing like /comphelprmt, then just filling the box with a paste and then letting Chatot do the rest, especially for tiers with a ton of raters

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:43 AM

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mighty shuttle https://pokepast.es/f1c43682ab464b36 we try again, o wise ones help me

are u trying to make this a funny team or a serious team

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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fierce path are u trying to make this a funny team or a serious team

this was a slightly older attempt to make mclef do togekiss stuff

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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boots max spdef sciz no turn no defog is crazy

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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helio lured exca

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if u wanna try fixing it u can

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def beyond saving tho

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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dude i cant joy react messages here too

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sadge

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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which one do u want me to joy react

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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no like

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nvm

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lol

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:44 AM

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kek

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but uh the sciz was floette cope

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mon sucks to play against

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i assume its what

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:45 AM

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true

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:45 AM

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roost sd knock?

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:45 AM

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floette annoying af

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:45 AM

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i dont actually know what set i slotted

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:46 AM

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ok clef doesnt even have

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moonblast

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bro

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triple twave 😂

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:50 AM

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mighty shuttle https://pokepast.es/f1c43682ab464b36 we try again, o wise ones help me

-moonblast on clef over twave
-jolly exca and mold breaker for a better MU into eel teams (bad mega but this team has no answer to it)
-maybe dragon pulse/surf on helio to pressure grounds like exca chomp?
-drop sd on sciz for uturn
-make evs on mence more optimal (16 atk evs for a dd mon is dire)

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also would like to know what mence evs do @ imperial

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:51 AM

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pretty sure the defense is to tank a zydog outrage at -1

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speed is speed

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rest in atk

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:51 AM

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undone venture punt the clefable

this actually so real btw

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mega clef is terrible

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:53 AM

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its not THAT bad gang

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but yeah i agve up on it rlly quick here

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its kinda best used as a clefable that beats chomp

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:54 AM

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imo biggest problem with this team is that it doesnt do anything well

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its too passive

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oh dude its sd exca

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wed prob want to go rocks on exca?

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esp if we're running knock on sciz and umbreon

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:56 AM

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mighty shuttle but yeah i agve up on it rlly quick here

ok i get the idea now

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like flinch haxxing w twave and serene grace

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:56 AM

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yeah

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it does togekiss clone stuff

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except toge has np and clef doesnt

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:57 AM

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ok yeah didnt notice that until now mb

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 2:57 AM

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not an issue

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thats why lisk is there

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it glares on exca

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problem is it just SUCKS in general

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109 is such a bad speed tier to get caught at

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 2:57 AM

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if you want to pressure exca

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run focus blast/surf

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just go max speed max spatk

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helio so frail anyw that idt youre ever clicking morning sun

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80 Atk Salamence Temper Flare vs. 252 HP / 160+ Def Skarmory: 90-108 (26.9 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

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+1 80 Atk Salamence Temper Flare vs. 252 HP / 160+ Def Skarmory: 136-160 (40.7 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

fierce path Nov 10, 2025, 3:25 AM

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https://pokepast.es/fda5153c5d2c4490 replaced sciz w volc and mence with dnite

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dnite just sweeps better

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usually you use mence for defog/special sets anyw

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can prob switch items around since multiple boots are pretty dire

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tldr mega clef bad

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and if someone else can fix this pls do

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webs may be the play with clef

quick juniper Nov 10, 2025, 3:12 PM

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RATE TEAM https://pokepast.es/e3c288dfcbe08bb3

autumn brambleBOT Nov 10, 2025, 3:12 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 3:20 PM

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Why donyou have 4 megas

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 3:20 PM

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this is

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unfortunately unviable

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 3:20 PM

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Yea

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 3:20 PM

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double dance non-mega delphox is bad

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bdrum slurpuff is bad

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4 megas is not good

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 3:21 PM

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This isnt good, we cant fix it in the state its in rn without basically making an entirely new team for you

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 3:21 PM

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the clefable set is wonky and makes little sense ^

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same w/ the dnite set

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 3:21 PM

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Same w the chesnaught set

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 3:21 PM

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chesnaught would probably be fine if u dropped grass pledge

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 3:21 PM

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Pretty much everything here isnt good sadly

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 3:22 PM

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yea

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 3:22 PM

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summer kraken This isnt good, we cant fix it in the state its in rn without basically making a...

@quick juniper do you want an attempt at fixing it (i'm not entirely sure what you're aiming for) or do you want a known good team

quick juniper Nov 10, 2025, 3:36 PM

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becaus im https://tenor.com/view/dance-blockyed-blocky-meme-memes-gif-21414384

Tenor

forest wadi Nov 10, 2025, 3:41 PM

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huh

summer kraken Nov 10, 2025, 3:50 PM

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I dont get it

supple musk Nov 10, 2025, 10:30 PM

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whar

unreal ruin Nov 10, 2025, 11:15 PM

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Rate my team!(legends za ou team)(ik no moves or ivs on mobile and couldn't be bothered, jus guess)
https://pokepast.es/accbd319b6b8a435

autumn brambleBOT Nov 10, 2025, 11:15 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Nov 10, 2025, 11:20 PM

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unreal ruin Rate my team!(legends za ou team)(ik no moves or ivs on mobile and couldn't be b...

i am unsure what you want me to do here

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judging by items and mons alone it doesn't look good though? av canion is not a great set, especially here? it feels like the team is just primarily incoherent, having a webs setter but then a bulky? chomp and a scarf exca. mgallade is ight on webs but you would really prefer a much more offensive structure with better sets.

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sash gengar is a bit of a fish but i dont hate it on webs even if slurpuff isnt great at denying opposing webs

obsidian ingot Nov 10, 2025, 11:36 PM

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unreal ruin Rate my team!(legends za ou team)(ik no moves or ivs on mobile and couldn't be b...

we only rate completed teams that you have used before

true shoal Nov 11, 2025, 5:57 AM

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https://pokepast.es/28df3cbcfaa91161 pls rate team

autumn brambleBOT Nov 11, 2025, 5:57 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

summer kraken Nov 11, 2025, 6:00 AM

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Will rate this soon

scarlet jetty Nov 11, 2025, 6:28 AM

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not sure what scarf exca's doing on a webs team

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when i use exca on webs i go lum berry SD to beat gourgeist

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why is chomp bulky

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we are a webs team with 1 setup mon

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why is everything 4 attacks no setup

undone venture Nov 11, 2025, 6:39 AM

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true shoal https://pokepast.es/28df3cbcfaa91161 pls rate team

Nasty Plot > Dbond / Gleam on Gengar, and if you drop Dbond, Focus Blast is a much better coverage move than Gleam
make the Garchomp SD Life Orb
I'd honestly just drop Excadrill here, you're stacking grounds and Gren entry points, you could run your own Gren or even Feraligatr instead
Dragonite should be Espeed, I think prio is too important for Gren & friends on ho. I'm also not sure about Lum but it's not totally awful.

fierce path Nov 11, 2025, 6:50 AM

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also put magic coat over flamethrower on slurpuff so your dnite and gengar dont become deadweight vs rocks

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imo id remove chomp and let exca be sd so you can actually spin rocks away too

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and making sure something here does good into talon/faster/immune to webs like boots gren

true shoal Nov 11, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Thanks all of you

summer kraken Nov 11, 2025, 3:51 PM

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true shoal https://pokepast.es/28df3cbcfaa91161 pls rate team

this looks ok but i dont know why theres a exca here, as val said id run gren instead

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im not totally sure on Sash Gengar? i feel like youd get more mileage from like, life orb but thats just me

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and you can keep the lum if you want on dnite idt its too huge on what you could run on it

sacred isle Nov 11, 2025, 9:34 PM

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https://pokepast.es/a78fd006481a7904 used my horrible gen 6 knowledge for dis

autumn brambleBOT Nov 11, 2025, 9:34 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

undone venture Nov 11, 2025, 9:38 PM

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sacred isle https://pokepast.es/a78fd006481a7904 used my horrible gen 6 knowledge for dis

for one, Battle Bond Gren can't mega evolve

sacred isle Nov 11, 2025, 9:41 PM

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omg I forgot to gave genger sludge wave

undone venture Nov 11, 2025, 9:43 PM

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I'd probably recommend SpD Slowbro over Starmie, you already have other removal and are kinda desperate for smth that can sponge the special hits in the meta
Id also make the Mgren a U turn set since your team seems to be more pivot heavy, you'll get less out of Protean NP than you'll get out of Hoopa delete button and a way to bring Gengar and Scizor in safely
I think Both Gleam and Tbolt are very unnecessary on Gengar, you'd rather run Sludge Bomb and one of Nasty Plot or Destiny Bond

You could do Defog Skarm > Talon, it can fit rocks and then Chomp can afford to run Fire Blast to 2hko Skarm and prevent it from clicking Defog infront of you

echo swallow Nov 11, 2025, 11:50 PM

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basically this, yeah

dreamy geyser Nov 13, 2025, 5:20 PM

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...this is a place to rate teams for niche Smogon formats without a more dedicated section as noted in the pins, not fangames

wooden holly Nov 14, 2025, 1:46 AM

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for legends za ou, no clue where else to post this haha

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https://pokepast.es/7b766a2d185c147b

undone venture Nov 14, 2025, 5:24 AM

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wooden holly https://pokepast.es/7b766a2d185c147b

I feel like the team has too little synergy
like three physical sweepers, two SpD mons, and a Specs breaker. You'll find some mons as deadweight in different match ups and won't be able to smoothly transition between your modes. Here are some tips to build more consistent stuff

Running 3+ set up sweepers is often Hyper Offense exclusive, best paired with a suicide lead (I.e Slurpuff, Meowstic, they get up hazards and die so you can maintain momentum and have every Pokemon apply pressure in mediocre match ups)
Defensive TTar + Glowking are better on bulkier structures, you won't have nearly as much "all or nothing" Pokemon
Specs Alakazam just kinda sucks sorry, it's not good at breaking past common SpD Pokemon (Slowkings, Clefable, HoopaU, Audino, TTar, Hoodra etc) and the moves you lock into invite scary Pokemon for free, namely Greninja, Hoopa, Krook.

wooden holly Nov 14, 2025, 5:41 AM

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ok

livid heart Nov 14, 2025, 5:42 AM

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https://pokepast.es/8586c5d1d9a3a29e
rate my team please!(for legendszaOu)

autumn brambleBOT Nov 14, 2025, 5:42 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

obsidian ingot Nov 14, 2025, 5:43 AM

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imo u gotta use fire blast chomp on these teams

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to weaken skarm for da boys

undone venture Nov 14, 2025, 5:44 AM

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^^

summer kraken Nov 14, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I will rate this soon

undone venture Nov 14, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I'd also drop Tect on Scolipede honestly
+2 Double Edge does like 50? to Skarm while without it you're hard walled so bad

scarlet jetty Nov 14, 2025, 5:45 AM

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yeah

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ive got a team w/ fire blast tankchomp

livid heart Nov 14, 2025, 5:46 AM

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alr thank you guys

barren flax Nov 16, 2025, 1:09 AM

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https://pokepast.es/444db43885625c33

Ok so, my friends and I are doing a za legends vgc tournament. Pretty limited format, and, admittedly, not everyone is really trying that hard; mostly just an excuse to get together and compete in something.

I'd really like to make mega Camerupt work because it was my main pokemon in the game and I really liked it. I've got a trick room team, running Camerupt as my main sweeper, Scrafty for Fake Out/Intimidate, Eelektross to cover Water types, and Slowbro for an offensive trick room setter.

Gardevoir is there for more trick room shenanigans, and I've swapped her between a wallbreaker and a support w/ will-o-wisp, trick room, and something else + coverage, but nothing has really felt good.

Venusaur is there for type coverage, I guess. That last slot has been the absolute hardest to find something for.

I really want to make Gardevoir work, because its my favourite pokemon, but she feels too frail or too fast to really make sense here. I've been thinking about splitting the team into two modes, running mega camerupt AND mega gardevoir with two options, and then turning that 6th slot into a tailwind setter like Dragonite or Talonflame, but I'm not sure about the 4th slot in that core alongside Gardevoir, Tailwind, and Scrafty.

It's a terribly "unique" format, and im new to competitive, would really like some insight or guidance. Not too worried about whether mega camerupt is actually good.

autumn brambleBOT Nov 16, 2025, 1:09 AM

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Hey @barren flax, there are presently no raters signed up to rate teams for gen9speculativelegendszavgc. A rater in this channel may still step in and provide advice, but you can check out the resources for this format.

undone venture Nov 16, 2025, 1:41 AM

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barren flax https://pokepast.es/444db43885625c33 Ok so, my friends and I are doing a za leg...

Mega Camerupt can probably work, but you'd definitely want Eruption over Rock Slide. I'd also recommend trying out this

Slowbro @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

Psychic
Trick Room
Sunny Day
Heal Pulse

I'd also highly recommend Blastoise or Eviolite Clefairy over something, having redirection means you can set up Trick Room vs really strong attackers and Taunt.

barren flax Nov 16, 2025, 3:39 AM

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Okay dropped Venusaur for Clefairy and made the changes to that Slowbro. Will probably give this a shot for abit and see how it works. REally not sure about that Gardevoir unfortunately

naive bone Nov 16, 2025, 4:44 AM

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hisuian goodra @ chesto berry

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abillity shell armer

dreamy geyser Nov 16, 2025, 4:45 AM

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!shareteam

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naive bone Nov 16, 2025, 4:45 AM

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level 50 or 100

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thanks

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Greg (Goodra-Hisui) @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Shell Armor
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 201 HP / 201 Def / 106 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

Acid Armor
Body Press
Gyro Ball
Rest

dreamy geyser Nov 16, 2025, 4:53 AM

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Are you trying to get feedback on a single set, or a proper team?

naive bone Nov 16, 2025, 4:53 AM

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right now single

dreamy geyser Nov 16, 2025, 4:55 AM

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In that case rating that sort of stuff would go better in #comp-general , as this is more so for rating full teams, be sure to clarify for what tier it's for in any case once you do

naive bone Nov 16, 2025, 4:55 AM

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ok

fervent cairn Nov 18, 2025, 1:42 AM

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I'm legitimately struggling to make a team for this format and this was the best I could get 😭
https://pokepast.es/ef9188fa67b05c38

autumn brambleBOT Nov 18, 2025, 1:42 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

obsidian ingot Nov 18, 2025, 1:43 AM

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only reason to use Talonflame is for Defog. Honestly the pokemon themselves are good but the sets are suboptimal

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Starmie set is fine.
I wouldn't use Talonflame + Garchomp; removing your own hazards is a waste
Umbreon should use Heavy-Duty Boots or Leftovers, you don't need a Lum Berry because Clefable can absorb most status stuff anyway.
Clefable doesn't need Grass Knot for like.. anything. use Fire move or twave or knock off or at least thunderbolt

scarlet jetty Nov 18, 2025, 1:46 AM

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what ash said

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id also note i like running fire blast on tankchomp for zor/skarm asw

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can run it over rocks and slot rocks on clef instead

fervent cairn Nov 18, 2025, 1:53 AM

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obsidian ingot Starmie set is fine. I wouldn't use Talonflame + Garchomp; removing your own haz...

there's no grass knot??

obsidian ingot Nov 18, 2025, 1:54 AM

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yo ngl

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im drunk

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ignore that

fervent cairn Nov 18, 2025, 1:59 AM

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obsidian ingot Starmie set is fine. I wouldn't use Talonflame + Garchomp; removing your own haz...

so Talonflame as is isn't convenient and if I put defog it would ruin part of the strategy then who do I put?

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I really need something with will o wisp or a fire type 😔

obsidian ingot Nov 18, 2025, 2:00 AM

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honestly do skarm > talon

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then change scizor to volcanion :O

fervent cairn Nov 18, 2025, 2:15 AM

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obsidian ingot then change scizor to volcanion :O

https://pokepast.es/c0ec095f66db8aea like that?

obsidian ingot Nov 18, 2025, 2:18 AM

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yes i believe so, but probably boots on volc

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and whilrwind on skarm

livid thorn Nov 21, 2025, 4:42 AM

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for pixelmon https://pokepast.es/cc1755955258bbba

dreamy geyser Nov 21, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Again, I'm afraid that this isn't supported here, or anywhere in the server for that matter

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!pixelmon

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trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:01 AM

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https://pokepast.es/fb77809e61336bed for zaou

autumn brambleBOT Nov 23, 2025, 2:01 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:06 AM

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alive

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:07 AM

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trail hare https://pokepast.es/fb77809e61336bed for zaou

slot dtail on chomp, you appreciate the chip dmg w/ this mon alot
why are we dd > agility here? on mdnite
whats gking evs for and whats scald for
specs canion should run earth power

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:08 AM

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mighty shuttle slot dtail on chomp, you appreciate the chip dmg w/ this mon alot why are we dd ...

idk why its not agility

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evs on glowking are just vibes idk

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:08 AM

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evs on sciz?

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:09 AM

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trail hare evs on glowking are just vibes idk

might wanna pick a direction then

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i advise ada on band hoopa, but thats more a preference thing (also knock > ice punch, and drop zen for drain punch since ttar & umbreon are important targets)

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:10 AM

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i see i see

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thank u

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i really have no idea what to speed creep for or run coverage for that's why half the team has random speed evs

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:10 AM

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i'm a little curious on the mdnite in general here

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why these 3 moves specifically

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:11 AM

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didn't realize it learned agility, draco meteor is good, other 2 are generally decent coverage

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:11 AM

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cus usually you'd want cane to smack clefable, tbolt to smack waters & skarm, and then u have a free move which can kinda be anything

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:11 AM

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I made this team before playing a single game of the tier so idk what to cover for

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:12 AM

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ah

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honestly just fix the issues i've mentioned

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go ladder and mess around a bit

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most of the other issues are hard for me to verbalise and feel more strctural, which you might be able to compensate in play better than me

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feel free to ping me again if you have further issues w/ the team, i'll be up for quite a while

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:13 AM

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mighty shuttle most of the other issues are hard for me to verbalise and feel more strctural, w...

its for sure a caveman brain structure. idea was just have stuff that does a lot of damage and have stuff that pivots into it. mega dnite was just thrown on cause i had no broken mega lol

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:14 AM

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mdnite isn't a great mega actually

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it will help with some issues, though roostless will make it worse at its job, agility isnt an uncommon set

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your speed control does lack a bit, you'll probably run into mgren issues alot here

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:15 AM

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what should I use for speed control

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:15 AM

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i'm a bad person to ask this question to because i hate most scarfers but

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this is a hard structure for me to fix upfront

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my personally recommendation on scarfers is gren or efloette

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but scarf chomp should work here too

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i feel like you mostly just have stacked mid-speed wallbreakers which will probably come up in play

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:18 AM

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ohh of course

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scarf diggersby

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:20 AM

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trail hare scarf diggersby

this isn't a very commonly used pokemon

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i'm not actually sure if its strictly bad/good but its pretty uncharted

trail hare Nov 23, 2025, 2:21 AM

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I feel like it could have potential in the small dex meta

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:22 AM

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could but skarm is common and so is gourgeist

mighty shuttle Nov 23, 2025, 2:29 AM

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trail hare I feel like it could have potential in the small dex meta

if you have further problems or wanna run by any changes, feel free to post it in here again, i think theres still a few standing issues in the team that could do with resolving

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:47 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8475616711c173d5

autumn brambleBOT Nov 23, 2025, 7:47 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Cane some one rate thes taem I am new and I cane see wasted potential idk

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:47 PM

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I don’t really like a lot of ur swts ngl

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Excadrill LO doesnt have the survivability to be ur sole fairy answer

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for mega floette

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water shuriken kinda sucks on mega gren, u outspeed everything anw and dont land kills

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offensive talonflame is also p bad ij my mind

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defensive talon would be really good here though, solid support for mega garde

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:48 PM

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echo swallow water shuriken kinda sucks on mega gren, u outspeed everything anw and dont land...

I cane use multiple megas in have mega gardevoir

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:48 PM

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as it beats like all its checks

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OH MB

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it said bond

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not mega

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Np

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:49 PM

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u need

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surf

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over shuriken imo

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Ok is thar any thing wrong with the items

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:49 PM

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or u can forego water stab entirely and go like ice beam for dnite

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yeah dont run lo ezca

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ezca

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exca

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:50 PM

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Ok

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:50 PM

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u get a bit ruined by mega floette

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ngl

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:50 PM

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I want to replace clefabel thes is singels so I cant have 2 of the same pokemon type

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:50 PM

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also small thing

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u should run trace on gardevoir

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:51 PM

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Like mega

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Or when it is not mega

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:52 PM

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when it isnt mega

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:52 PM

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Ok

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Is thar any replacement for clefabel i want the raely annoying

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But still hase some ofens

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:54 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b5f4af0068363056

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also hmm

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:54 PM

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Every time i rune into siczor i get clapd

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:54 PM

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lemme see on replacing team members

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u should run these sets tho

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also yeah use that talon set

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it lets u go into scizor

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defnesively

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:55 PM

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Ok ty

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 7:55 PM

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you can run like

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hmm,

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u can put stealth rocks on exca over rock slide

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and make clefable av goodra-h

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act wait

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Goodra-Hisui @ Assault Vest
Ability: Gooey
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 168 SpA / 88 Spe
Modest Nature

Draco Meteor
Heavy Slam
Flamethrower
Knock Off

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yeah try this

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over clef

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and run rocks on exca

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Ok thenck you so much i will tack a practice run

echo swallow Nov 23, 2025, 8:00 PM

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u could also consider putting calm mind on gardevoir

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but yeah goodra-h helps ur gren matchup a lot

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 8:02 PM

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Thanck you so much

cinder kernel Nov 23, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Omg bro i just harde berdectid some one and when I killd the chestnut thay gave up

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Some timse i harde raed some timse i just throw

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 11:28 AM

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I have a bade match up against protein greninja

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I teayde thunder bolt on godra but he gets 1 tapd with close combat or earthquake

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Cane some one help

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And most protine grens have sludge wave or gunkshot

echo swallow Nov 24, 2025, 10:18 PM

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cinder kernel I teayde thunder bolt on godra but he gets 1 tapd with close combat or earthquak...

i dont get

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like

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dont keep it in on a close combat or eq

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u have talon and gourgeist

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:19 PM

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Ok

echo swallow Nov 24, 2025, 10:19 PM

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also idk why u removed rocks on exca

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and nasty plot on gren

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:19 PM

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Talon hase no dameg output

echo swallow Nov 24, 2025, 10:19 PM

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yeah

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it is a defensive mon

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:20 PM

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echo swallow and nasty plot on gren

I got nasty back and I removed stealth cuse i need answers against other offensive talon flame

echo swallow Nov 24, 2025, 10:20 PM

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im ngl ive never seen offensive flame

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with stealth rocks up if you knock flame with goodra-h

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Yah I've seen it a lot most rune flamethrower

echo swallow Nov 24, 2025, 10:21 PM

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it is taking 50 on switchin

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imo every 6v6 team

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should havr hazards

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:22 PM

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I am playing legends z-a singels

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:22 PM

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cinder kernel I am playing legends z-a singels

Ou

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My elo is reduced to 1075 or smth

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So I played agenst ppl who afk till my patience runse out so yah

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I rune into to ppl who have steky web but talon uses defoeg and those my proplem if I want remove haserds I use talon flame but it remove my haserds to I cane get rapid spine but it dosent do mutch dameg and it gets walld by other ghost types

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I will go to the og and tray it

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👍

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It cane be a skill issue

cinder kernel Nov 24, 2025, 10:27 PM

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cinder kernel It cane be a skill issue

From me

fervent cairn Nov 24, 2025, 11:24 PM

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fervent cairn https://pokepast.es/c0ec095f66db8aea like that?

K that team was starting to bother me with the electric weakness so I made a new one

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https://pokepast.es/6768660421d5ae69

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where's the ping . _.

autumn brambleBOT Nov 24, 2025, 11:27 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fervent cairn Nov 24, 2025, 11:27 PM

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there we go

mighty shuttle Nov 24, 2025, 11:49 PM

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a

mighty shuttle Nov 24, 2025, 11:50 PM

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fervent cairn https://pokepast.es/6768660421d5ae69

okay so

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ur kinda lacking gren answers here, are you not

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sitrus clef is also not the greatest

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u'd prolly want lo

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i think u slot some form of gren counterplay over gking

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and then make clef boots/leftovers

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gking is kinda anti-synergy here i feel cause its hurting goug's recovery

fervent cairn Nov 25, 2025, 12:08 AM

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mighty shuttle i think u slot some form of gren counterplay over gking

which is who?

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Greninja runs like bajillion stuff

mighty shuttle Nov 25, 2025, 12:09 AM

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fervent cairn which is who?

best checks r like

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hoodra umbreon

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fat scizors do ok as can av hoopa (avoid uturn sniping you, this ones better for bb)

cinder kernel Nov 25, 2025, 11:48 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d8f7ea9573562e91

autumn brambleBOT Nov 25, 2025, 11:49 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

cinder kernel Nov 25, 2025, 11:49 AM

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I am traying to mack another taem with mega gren as the coar cuse i want to have fune any recommendations for other pokemon

undone venture Nov 25, 2025, 11:57 AM

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cinder kernel I am traying to mack another taem with mega gren as the coar cuse i want to have...

this channel is for completed teams, I'd recommend one of the comp general channels for teambuilding
or for more accurate advice, you could go to the ZAOU Smogon thread and the discord link in there

cinder kernel Nov 25, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Ok

cinder kernel Nov 25, 2025, 2:25 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3534479b5db84171

cinder kernel Nov 25, 2025, 2:25 PM

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cinder kernel https://pokepast.es/3534479b5db84171

What will be a good last pick i dont rune into to that meny haserd setirs

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2 of my pokemon thretin to sweep if not delt with

undone venture Nov 26, 2025, 4:52 AM

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cinder kernel https://pokepast.es/3534479b5db84171

I think you'd be better off running Slurpuff instead of Hoodra, things like Gardevoir and BB Gren limit how much you'll be pivoting and do greatly appreciate webs

and Chesnaught would be better off as a priority like DD Zygarde or SD Scizor imo, just to get around bb gren better. Could also be SD Scale Chomp to add more pressure on Clefable

tight jay Nov 26, 2025, 4:20 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0c9554bdc053fb85 Legends ZA OU Bulky Offence. Ancient power 2 snipe talon, chomp + naught 2 smash the phys attackers. Delphox-m smashes me if they break my special walls but ive been sniping it w MEGAnium so idk if i needa change nything

autumn brambleBOT Nov 26, 2025, 4:20 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

halcyon hearth Nov 27, 2025, 2:51 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b4e6750ec617f95a

autumn brambleBOT Nov 27, 2025, 2:51 AM

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Hey @halcyon hearth, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9ubersuu team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

halcyon hearth Nov 27, 2025, 2:51 AM

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Oh lol

cinder kernel Nov 27, 2025, 10:59 PM

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https://pokepast.es/09fd5a149f8ee125

autumn brambleBOT Nov 27, 2025, 10:59 PM

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Hey @cinder kernel, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9doublesou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059655497587888158 instead.

cinder kernel Nov 27, 2025, 10:59 PM

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cinder kernel https://pokepast.es/09fd5a149f8ee125

Opss srry

tight jay Nov 28, 2025, 1:42 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0c9554bdc053fb85 Legends ZA OU Bulky Offence. Ancient power 2 snipe talon, chomp + naught 2 smash the phys attackers. Delphox-m smashes me if they break my special walls but ive been sniping it w MEGAnium so idk if i needa change nything

autumn brambleBOT Nov 28, 2025, 1:42 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

barren flax Dec 1, 2025, 4:10 AM

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Legends ZA VGC

https://pokepast.es/771a9dda4ea4778e

Its me again. Doing some last minute changes to this team and just cant figure out the 5th slot. There's not anything I can do about Charizard atm or other flying types that resist Camerupt (Talonflame, Salamence, Altaria, etc), so I'm looking for a back up option. I've got a sun team second mode going, so I have a Venusaur. Right now I've got Dragonite in there, but it just sort of feels like it's "there". Aurorus type checks all of those threats, but it's also Aurorus. Maybe that's fine?

dreamy geyser Dec 1, 2025, 4:18 AM

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!shareteam

autumn brambleBOT Dec 1, 2025, 4:18 AM

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Pokémon Showdown's team database is the easiest way to share competitive teams with other people online. Simply save your team to Showdown's database and you can share your team offsite by sharing the link in your browser!

To upload a team, scroll to the bottom of the team, untick the checkbox to make your team public, and press the button that says Upload to Showdown database.

You can then take the link to your team and share that link to share the team with other people.

boreal cargo Dec 5, 2025, 7:00 PM

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I’m new to PvP and need help making a team around mega greninja

https://pokepast.es/e7e38ee0f4fa0218

vernal dock Dec 5, 2025, 10:27 PM

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https://psim.us/t/1420797 doubles ou rain team

autumn brambleBOT Dec 5, 2025, 10:27 PM

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Hey @vernal dock, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9doublesou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059655497587888158 instead.

agile umbra Dec 6, 2025, 3:09 AM

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boreal cargo I’m new to PvP and need help making a team around mega greninja https://pokepa...

New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I probably won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Dec 6, 2025, 6:25 PM

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boreal cargo I’m new to PvP and need help making a team around mega greninja https://pokepa...

these mons aren't in za?

obtuse yoke Dec 9, 2025, 3:14 PM

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A team made for a random 20 pokemon per person double tourney and here's what I came up with I'd love input on how to improve it https://pokepast.es/88fbfd47ee633070

agile umbra Dec 9, 2025, 5:30 PM

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obtuse yoke A team made for a random 20 pokemon per person double tourney and here's what I ...

!arbitraryformats

autumn brambleBOT Dec 9, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Please take a moment to review the rules of the competitive section: #1373406929317269624 message

Do not ask for assistance with arbitrary rulesets or restrictions placed on teambuilding, we will not help with them in this server. The competitive section is only for formats hosted on the Smogon forums, such as VGC and OU.

agile umbra Dec 9, 2025, 5:31 PM

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sorry, we don't know what pokemon you got, what's legal for the format, or what your opponents have, so we probably wouldn't be able to give you quality advice

mighty shuttle Dec 9, 2025, 9:23 PM

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gen5ou is old-gens ou

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not here

pseudo geyser Dec 9, 2025, 9:23 PM

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oh sorry

autumn brambleBOT Dec 9, 2025, 10:27 PM

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Hey @dry reef, there are presently no raters signed up to rate teams for gen9purehackmons. A rater in this channel may still step in and provide advice, but you can check out the resources for this format.

dreamy geyser Dec 9, 2025, 10:30 PM

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Pure Hackmons rates go in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059657287293222912

pearl nest Dec 12, 2025, 10:32 AM

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https://pokepast.es/4e6e9e1b6081b0c6

autumn brambleBOT Dec 12, 2025, 10:32 AM

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Hey @pearl nest, there are presently no raters signed up to rate teams for gen6ubers. A rater in this channel may still step in and provide advice, but you can check out the resources for this format.

meager quest Dec 12, 2025, 2:27 PM

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pearl nest https://pokepast.es/4e6e9e1b6081b0c6

you'd probably have more luck in the Ubers thread

pearl nest Dec 12, 2025, 2:30 PM

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meager quest you'd probably have more luck in the Ubers thread

let's hope I'll have that luck 😔

autumn brambleBOT Dec 13, 2025, 12:22 PM

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Hey @pearl nest, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9nationaldexubers team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1060037469472555028 instead.

pearl nest Dec 13, 2025, 12:23 PM

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whops my bad

simple crag Dec 13, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Anyone help me build one team with mega gengar for tournument in pixelmoon

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All theses pokemon is allowed

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I need help finding good teammates for him.

supple musk Dec 13, 2025, 6:49 PM

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!brickbronze

autumn brambleBOT Dec 13, 2025, 6:49 PM

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Do not ask for assistance with fangames, Minecraft/Roblox mods, or other such titles. These games/mods have mechanics and available Pokémon which do not match those in the actual Pokémon games or Smogon's formats, and are often played with arbitrary rulesets.

supple musk Dec 13, 2025, 6:50 PM

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also not what these channels r for anyway

coarse sail Dec 13, 2025, 7:53 PM

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hey guys, is this a good team for a tour that my friend is running? rules are basically just no stall. also i cant change the mons, cuz it was a draft pick:

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if you want, i can send the other players teams that i have access to

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actually here

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the ones that are highlighted in orange means that they are in an alternative form

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lycanroc is in dusk form, mega pidgeot, crowned zacian, alolan exeggutor, primal kyorge, im using origin giratina, necrozma might be dusk mane, and then dialga is origin forme

dreamy geyser Dec 13, 2025, 7:58 PM

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As a fairy told you this is not something this server can cover, and even then it's a lost clause per that weird "no stall" clause

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!arbitraryformats

autumn brambleBOT Dec 13, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Please take a moment to review the rules of the competitive section: #1373406929317269624 message

Do not ask for assistance with arbitrary rulesets or restrictions placed on teambuilding, we will not help with them in this server. The competitive section is only for formats hosted on the Smogon forums, such as VGC and OU.

coarse sail Dec 13, 2025, 8:00 PM

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oh, i thought this might be a better place to post it

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sorry

livid mural Dec 14, 2025, 2:26 AM

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I think ZU teams are covered here, but I'm working on a harvest custap berry trevenant with d-bond endure. Idea is pretty straightforward but Idk how to support it without drought, and helpful synergies would be nice. The team is obviously meant to be HO, all advice is welcome. Things of note: no hazard removal yet, don't judge minior EVs, no prankster switch in/counter, a bit lacking spatk wise, maybe flash cannon on vikavolt or i-head on minior, basically anything to take advantage of steely spirit, thinking abt bullet punch rapid spin hitmon___. https://pokepast.es/e83ef43c91d32d9b

autumn brambleBOT Dec 14, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Hey @livid mural, there are presently no raters signed up to rate teams for gen9zu. A rater in this channel may still step in and provide advice, but you can check out the resources for this format.

dreamy geyser Dec 14, 2025, 3:03 AM

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ZU rates go in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1208795569649356820

livid mural Dec 14, 2025, 7:24 PM

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ty, sorry abt that!

sacred isle Dec 15, 2025, 8:09 PM

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https://pokepast.es/40a16739bbd7f094 LegendsZA OU

autumn brambleBOT Dec 15, 2025, 8:09 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

scarlet jetty Dec 15, 2025, 8:11 PM

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drop tbolt on washtom for wisp

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also rocks fog roost skarmory is surely ass

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you'd be better off with making do with spikes on magearna and making it like lefties or boots

mighty shuttle Dec 15, 2025, 8:12 PM

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scarlet jetty drop tbolt on washtom for wisp

this

sacred isle Dec 15, 2025, 8:13 PM

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got it

mighty shuttle Dec 15, 2025, 8:13 PM

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scarlet jetty also rocks fog roost skarmory is surely ass

its not so bad but like

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idk it just feels like this team has no answers to alot of stuff

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why is skarm there when we have like

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no mzera answer no mabsol answer no good genesect answer no good sgcm mag answer

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no gopod zydog answer

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no good chomp answer

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like that skarm needs to be something else that can keep the offense up

sacred isle Dec 15, 2025, 8:21 PM

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darkrai maybe or scarf heatran?

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also have thought about changing knock off on zera to play rough

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hard to counter all of those

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no way mixed goodrah or scarf annihilape could work right?

sacred isle Dec 15, 2025, 11:06 PM

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actually how about fire punch on zera > playrough?

broken lily Dec 16, 2025, 8:32 PM

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I tried to make a offensive team themed around Mega Absol Z. what do you think: https://pokepast.es/0db80637dde6bfbc

autumn brambleBOT Dec 16, 2025, 8:32 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Dec 16, 2025, 8:35 PM

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broken lily I tried to make a offensive team themed around Mega Absol Z. what do you think: ...

this looks like

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identical to the six i suggested

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so yeah looks good

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maybe shift gear > idef on mag otherwise it looks

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acceptable

broken lily Dec 16, 2025, 9:04 PM

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mighty shuttle identical to the six i suggested

well, I mainly was checking movesets and IV's. Thanks!

acoustic badger Dec 17, 2025, 4:05 AM

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https://pokepast.es/6e727f02158e4cd6
Hi i built this team around mega absol Z but i have no idea what to put over gallade. it was originally lead meowstic but i found that i was getting no use from it bc i have glim. What would be some good suggestions as a replacement or should i go back to meowstick and replace glim?

autumn brambleBOT Dec 17, 2025, 4:05 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

last cipher Dec 17, 2025, 2:54 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0e2b8fef1d14a85e
A team I made for my Ultra Sun playthrough. I know this is overkill for the single player campaign but building teams is where I have fun, so the goal is to create a team that could theoretically take on anything. Playing on an emulator so I went kinda crazy with pokemon I like.

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https://pokepast.es/359b808c36b81a96
After stress testing in showdown though, I found nidoking to be a little lacking (probably cause the only tier that showdown would let me battle randoms on with this team was national dex ubers, and people bring full teams of legendaries there), so I switched out nidoking for primal groudon and made some slight modifications.

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suggestions are appreciated

dreamy geyser Dec 17, 2025, 6:43 PM

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last cipher https://pokepast.es/0e2b8fef1d14a85e A team I made for my Ultra Sun playthrough....

We don't really rate in-game teams, you'd want to just browse the resources in the Orange Islands subforum (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ultra-sun-ultra-moon-in-game-tier-list.3621876/), or even just the speedrun community if you merely want to beat the game ASAP
Given the inclusion of stuff that can't be obtained early-game without trading / Bank, it seems like this is a casual run team either way, so this shouldn't be an issue; the games are designed so that you can use virtually anything without being progress locked

sacred isle Dec 17, 2025, 10:40 PM

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I tried building again for MZera https://pokepast.es/7e00c0752af7b3b8

autumn brambleBOT Dec 17, 2025, 10:40 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

last cipher Dec 17, 2025, 11:08 PM

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dreamy geyser We don't really rate in-game teams, you'd want to just browse the resources in t...

hmmmm, my goal here is more so to try and build a team that's competitively viable, less so about being 'good enough' for the game

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I guess this team would be for gen 7 anything goes? It's what I built my team as in showdown.

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maybe that would go in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1208795569649356820 if I'm allowed to post past gen teams there

dreamy geyser Dec 17, 2025, 11:20 PM

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That'd go there, yes

last cipher Dec 17, 2025, 11:20 PM

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will do, thanks

unreal ruin Dec 18, 2025, 5:35 AM

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https://pokepast.es/2fb367629da80c63
Can someone rate my team? I kinda have a hard time having someone to properly switch in to and have problems with like dmg? In the sense that I kinda get walled a good amount. Any suggestions on to improving this?

autumn brambleBOT Dec 18, 2025, 5:35 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @scarlet jetty, @mighty shuttle, @undone venture, @summer kraken, @obsidian ingot, @echo swallow, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:14 AM

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was messin around : Legends za ou
https://pokepast.es/49928bf2c5c699ec
thoughts?

autumn brambleBOT Dec 20, 2025, 5:14 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path, @scarlet jetty. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:14 AM

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mega gren switchin where

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:15 AM

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theoretically, could revenge kill it w/ priority

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:15 AM

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scarlet jetty mega gren switchin where

Keldeo...?

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though def not reliable\

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:15 AM

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keldeo cant come in

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and mega gren just switches out

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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yea that's fair

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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the bigger issue is that 4 of these pokemon are fighting types

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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I know

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the Theme was Swords of Justice

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I just wanted to give that a shot for fun

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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the swords of justice are very bad

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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I know

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:16 AM

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It was for funn

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it can still win

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sample : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9legendszaou-2503143755-yishnxifwdj3nes9cxxpcji5mqgg7vxpw

[Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU: smthrdm vs. finning-near - Replays - Pokém...

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between smthrdm and finning-near! Format: [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU; Date: Dec 20, 2025

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Somehow

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:17 AM

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this is for teams you want competitive feedback on

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:17 AM

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Ah

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well it's for fun but still would like to know how it could be improved

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welp

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sorry chat

scarlet jetty Dec 20, 2025, 5:18 AM

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sadly in this case the

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way to improve it is cut half the mons

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which i dont think is what you really want to hear

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:18 AM

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crimson prairie was messin around : Legends za ou https://pokepast.es/49928bf2c5c699ec thoughts?

where spinner/defogger 😭

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im instantly bringing in chomp and setting rocks and spikes

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+webs 😂

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:19 AM

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ok webs ruins this

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LMFAO

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:19 AM

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fierce path where spinner/defogger 😭

space issues...

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:19 AM

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bro get rid of slowking

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hes not him

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:19 AM

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forr?

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:19 AM

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go full offense atp

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any other offensive mon

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hell like exca with rapid

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idk

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or a funny mon

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:20 AM

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scarf/air balloon exc?

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:20 AM

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since this is a funny team

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:20 AM

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I add another sword mon

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:20 AM

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crimson prairie scarf/air balloon exc?

or spdef set

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:20 AM

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go scarf gallade!

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I'll see

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thoughts on the sets though?

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:21 AM

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i like the cobalion the virizion sucks ass lol

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:21 AM

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Idk what to do w/ it

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:21 AM

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cc leaf storm synthesis? rocks??

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:21 AM

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IDK

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:21 AM

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go like sub sd or smth

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then scarf terrak 🤷‍♂️

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:22 AM

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scaf exca then sub sd verizion ig

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:22 AM

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idk man youre cooked anyw

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gl

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:22 AM

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tyy

fierce path Dec 20, 2025, 5:23 AM

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fierce path cc leaf storm synthesis? rocks??

whys it max hp 🥀

crimson prairie Dec 20, 2025, 5:23 AM

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to live a hit

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ngl m-garchomp-z ruins this team sooo

golden blaze Dec 21, 2025, 10:10 AM

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@scenic fractal

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For ZA

scenic fractal Dec 21, 2025, 10:10 AM

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golden blaze <@825973528691736606>

oh ok

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Heatran-Mega @ Heatranite
Ability: Earth Eater
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Earth Power
Magma Storm
Flash Cannon
Stealth Rock

Magearna @ Choice Specs
Ability: Soul-Heart
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Fleur Cannon
Aura Sphere
Focus Blast
Flash Cannon

Glimmora @ Focus Sash
Ability: Toxic Debris
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Spikes
Toxic Spikes
Spiky Shield
Mortal Spin

Dondozo @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Rest
Sleep Talk
Hydro Pump
Curse

Hoopa-Unbound @ Life Orb
Ability: Magician
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature

Trick Room
Drain Punch
Hyperspace Fury
Fire Punch

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Outrage
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Thunder Fang

golden blaze Dec 21, 2025, 10:11 AM

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scenic fractal oh ok

If you put it in a pokepaste it will ping the appropriate people

scenic fractal Dec 21, 2025, 10:11 AM

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golden blaze If you put it in a pokepaste it will ping the appropriate people

ohh

golden blaze Dec 21, 2025, 10:13 AM

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I’m kinda tired right now but the team has a bit of anti synergy, I’ll help you when I wake up if nobody else has

scenic fractal Dec 21, 2025, 10:13 AM

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golden blaze I’m kinda tired right now but the team has a bit of anti synergy, I’ll help you ...

alr thank you!

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https://pokepast.es/b85119990306e0a2

autumn brambleBOT Dec 21, 2025, 10:18 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

echo swallow Dec 21, 2025, 3:29 PM

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scenic fractal https://pokepast.es/b85119990306e0a2

glimmora contradicts

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this team a lot

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it seems a lot more fatter and slow with like trick room hoopa-u, dozo, tran, mag without pivot

scenic fractal Dec 21, 2025, 3:30 PM

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any advices to fix it?

echo swallow Dec 21, 2025, 3:30 PM

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you'd have to run a more offensive team probably or add something to compliment the defensive teamstyle

scenic fractal Dec 21, 2025, 3:30 PM

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i see

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hmm

scenic fractal Dec 21, 2025, 3:31 PM

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echo swallow you'd have to run a more offensive team probably or add something to compliment ...

would zeraora be nice? or should I use a grass type?

red dagger Dec 22, 2025, 12:13 AM

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Alright guys, I’d appreciate a little help because I have ZERO idea of what I’m doing. I’m doing a BDSP tournament between friends, there’s a lot of money on the line here. I came up with this team last month and I’ve been working on beating the game then breeding and training. I can’t ask my friends for help so I’ve come to the internet. Any suggestions would be welcome. Especially if you have any alternatives for the held items, I don’t think they’ll let me use leftovers multiple times. We don’t have any rules set up, but I only have 10 days left to prep. Thanks again in advance.
Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Scald
-Protect

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
-Wish
-Protect
-Toxic
-Seismic Toss

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
-Defog
-Roost
-Brave Bird
-Whirlwind

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Stone Edge

Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
-Hydro Pump
-Volt Switch
-Thunderbolt
-Trick

Breloom @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
-Spore
-Bullet Seed
-Mach Punch
-Stone Edge

dreamy geyser Dec 22, 2025, 3:05 AM

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red dagger Alright guys, I’d appreciate a little help because I have ZERO idea of what I’m ...

Hang on, so is this just BDSP OU, or...?

red dagger Dec 22, 2025, 3:44 AM

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dreamy geyser Hang on, so is this just BDSP OU, or...?

It’s bdsp with no rules. Idk what OU means.

dreamy geyser Dec 22, 2025, 3:51 AM

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You may want to get more familiar with the standard Smogon tiers while you enjoy this community as they're fairly common topics, a summary for most standard tiers can be found in https://www.smogon.com/sm/articles/sm_tiers

An Introduction to Smogon's Tier System - Smogon University

An article on how Smogon ranks various Pokemon.

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That said, if you mean "no rules" as in that you can hack whatever in like Arceus with Wonder Guard, then you'd want to head to https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059657287293222912 for a rate for BDSP Pure Hackmons, otherwise if you're sticking still to what's obtainable without hacking then it'd be BDSP Anything Goes, which'd go in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1208795569649356820 , not that either format is popular however, so you could also head to a more specialized Discord depending on which of the two it'd fall as

red dagger Dec 22, 2025, 7:16 AM

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Okay thanks I’ll try out UM rates

autumn brambleBOT Dec 23, 2025, 4:37 PM

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Hey @pearl nest, it looks like you're trying to share a gen8bdspou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1060339824537641152 instead.

pearl nest Dec 23, 2025, 4:37 PM

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whops

brave wedge Dec 24, 2025, 5:17 AM

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https://pokepast.es/9ad133849657b250

autumn brambleBOT Dec 24, 2025, 5:17 AM

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crimson prairie Dec 26, 2025, 12:53 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b68e1675714fca4d

autumn brambleBOT Dec 26, 2025, 12:53 AM

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crimson prairie Dec 26, 2025, 12:53 AM

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thoughts?

scarlet jetty Dec 26, 2025, 12:55 AM

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why are we triple scarf with a mega garchomp z

crimson prairie Dec 26, 2025, 12:56 AM

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speed ^^

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Open to suggestions to improve ofc

mighty shuttle Dec 26, 2025, 12:11 PM

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crimson prairie Open to suggestions to improve ofc

Indeedee and latias and heatran are all bad to mediocre scarfers

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You lack physical attackers too so like ttar might fuck you up

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I don't get shuva nah here either, there's a ches and a lati

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My suggestion is like

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Drop latias for scarf latios, drop indeedee entirely for anything else, change the heatran set and mag item

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I'd need to look a bit deeper to give the best replacements but indeedee is bad and idk what it attempts to do

thorn remnant Dec 27, 2025, 5:16 AM

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https://pokepast.es/65b0338e99cceb31 I wanted to make a Bellibolt rain team that works around VGC rules that's as good as possible (which is likely not very considering that it's Bellibolt)

stray sleet Dec 27, 2025, 5:24 AM

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thorn remnant https://pokepast.es/65b0338e99cceb31 I wanted to make a Bellibolt rain team that...

just a reminder uh u can use pokemon showdown and import them to poke paste rather then i think inputting it and vgc rates go to https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059704283072831499

thorn remnant Dec 27, 2025, 5:27 AM

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stray sleet just a reminder uh u can use pokemon showdown and import them to poke paste rath...

I wasn't sure if it counted as actually being competitive if it's built around supporting a bad pokemon or not even if it would be played in that format

stray sleet Dec 27, 2025, 5:29 AM

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thorn remnant I wasn't sure if it counted as actually being competitive if it's built around s...

just give it a go wow

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they prolly wouldn’t nuke your team into debris

pearl nest Dec 27, 2025, 9:49 AM

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stray sleet they prolly wouldn’t nuke your team into debris

PROBABLY? 😭

pearl nest Dec 27, 2025, 10:37 AM

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https://pokepast.es/c3304161d716d2c7 my first actual serious team

autumn brambleBOT Dec 27, 2025, 10:37 AM

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Hey @pearl nest, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9anythinggoes team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

pearl nest Dec 27, 2025, 10:37 AM

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K

crimson prairie Dec 27, 2025, 6:34 PM

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mighty shuttle Indeedee and latias and heatran are all bad to mediocre scarfers

Sorry late reply oops

crimson prairie Dec 27, 2025, 6:36 PM

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mighty shuttle You lack physical attackers too so like ttar might fuck you up

t-tar hasen't really been a problem, since it dosen't have any reliable recovery it often gets chipped and dealt w/

crimson prairie Dec 27, 2025, 6:39 PM

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mighty shuttle I don't get shuva nah here either, there's a ches and a lati

Ches and Lati both usually need to have high hp (Ches for general physical and Lati for Keldeo) Shuca on Magearna's useful for Earthquakes from like chomp/Krook/Dnight/etc and killing back *+sometimes lives a hit for t-wave

crimson prairie Dec 27, 2025, 6:39 PM

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mighty shuttle Drop latias for scarf latios, drop indeedee entirely for anything else, change t...

gotcha

crimson prairie Dec 27, 2025, 6:40 PM

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mighty shuttle I'd need to look a bit deeper to give the best replacements but indeedee is bad ...

Indeedee is there due for a ghost immunity n psychic terrain +Stab Expanding force can sweep

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*checked the pokepaste it has moonblast over future sight oops

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ok anyway

crimson prairie Dec 27, 2025, 6:41 PM

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mighty shuttle I'd need to look a bit deeper to give the best replacements but indeedee is bad ...

ty for the advice

inner snow Dec 28, 2025, 6:55 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a832e92a7ea72a30

autumn brambleBOT Dec 28, 2025, 6:55 AM

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mighty shuttle Dec 28, 2025, 6:17 PM

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inner snow https://pokepast.es/a832e92a7ea72a30

looks mostly good

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dont run 4hp no exca, and i think sd > rock slide almost always

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ttar rlly wants pursuit (and smooth rock) on sand

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gengar needs to be timid

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and i personally advise liquidation or sedge > fire blast because of mega heatran

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but this is mostly just preference

mighty shuttle Dec 28, 2025, 6:19 PM

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mighty shuttle ttar rlly wants pursuit (and smooth rock) on sand

(i'd drop twave for suit)

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also dont forget the extra 4evs on gengar and slowking

fierce path Dec 28, 2025, 9:17 PM

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brave wedge https://pokepast.es/9ad133849657b250

no one said anything bout this cuz its 💤

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but its prob because the team lacks a clear focus, you got good cores here but then randomly have 2 choice mons which would be fine

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but when playing all these mons are pretty important, so if you misplay/whatever you can lose your chomp or w/e and can lose your only rocker

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not to mention your choice mons share all the weaknesses of your defensive mons, and you lose badly to fightings like crab, ape gallade etc

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so yeah you can play around them, but youll have to sack mons which isnt good for this team

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so changing stuff here decides on which way you want your team to go; can add better defensive pieces so that your other defensive mons arent so strained

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or you can add setup sweepers/change items or mons

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like going boots zera with volt switch, or LO keld?

fickle maple Dec 28, 2025, 10:20 PM

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How can i make my psychic terrain za ou team better. My weaknesses seem to be ddance zygarde, excadrill, aegislash and absol z. https://pokepast.es/7179a3629fe8fd17 https://pokepast.es/a7d85ef8c6616556

autumn brambleBOT Dec 28, 2025, 10:20 PM

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fickle maple Dec 28, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Do i even bother with hazards?

scarlet jetty Dec 28, 2025, 10:22 PM

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yes

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you should

fickle maple Dec 28, 2025, 10:24 PM

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scarlet jetty you should

What about webs specifically?

mighty shuttle Dec 28, 2025, 10:42 PM

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fickle maple How can i make my psychic terrain za ou team better. My weaknesses seem to be dd...

um

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this is bad

fickle maple Dec 28, 2025, 10:42 PM

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I know

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So how do i make it good

mighty shuttle Dec 28, 2025, 10:43 PM

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uh

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idk about fgull psyterrain

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but maybe doing like

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mega meowstic + hawlucha should be fine

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scarf coballion is kinda not good

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and ur sorely lacking something to take grounds on with

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the concept is kinda bad and i recommend just scrapping it

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maybe get a team from zaou cord

fickle maple Dec 28, 2025, 10:45 PM

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Oh ok

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Thanks

inner snow Dec 29, 2025, 5:23 AM

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mighty shuttle looks mostly good

https://pokepast.es/8aebbd2af0dc50d6 changed a few things. i didnt like Gengar so i swapped it with Latios. i feel like i should be using Keldeo

autumn brambleBOT Dec 29, 2025, 5:23 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path, @scarlet jetty. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 5:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0a5bf021ac6f13c6 im sorry if this is hot garbage 😭

autumn brambleBOT Dec 29, 2025, 5:36 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:29 PM

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untold hamlet https://pokepast.es/0a5bf021ac6f13c6 im sorry if this is hot garbage 😭

doesnt chomp fuck u up real bad

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:31 PM

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probs but I did mega darkrai > scov for the latios issue and now it looks like

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https://pokepast.es/9741d4fa6f65b94c

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:32 PM

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untold hamlet https://pokepast.es/9741d4fa6f65b94c

steel birds worry me

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:32 PM

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how wld u fix

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:33 PM

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not a damn clue

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could tbolt > focus on ghold to help no that front

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i dont rlly like scarf ape here too but w/e

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:34 PM

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I assume this is unsalvagable

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:34 PM

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i dont know about unsalvagable

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its not like so bad

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fundamentally your sets are fine

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just feels like your set of offensive mons is just

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not synergetic

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like u have magearna problems too potentially

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:35 PM

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I started with uh

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puff glimm ghold mega

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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@echo swallow get in here

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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untold hamlet puff glimm ghold mega

i dont hate its j like

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dnite is meh if not defense

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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🙁

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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ape is not good for scarfing here either idt

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/1a0938055413e9f4 it was this at the start

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:36 PM

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see i dont hate this so far

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i j dont like ape + dnite last

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:37 PM

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I did dnite to compress water resist fire resist ground immune

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:37 PM

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drop ape and split the difference maybe

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:38 PM

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sawkasm told me to keep the dual ghost setup so like

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idk 😭

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:39 PM

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i dunno who it is

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u could compromise if u want two ghosts tho

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absol > rai

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:39 PM

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mighty shuttle <@568801197553745930> get in here

yo

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:39 PM

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i dont neccesarily want 2 ghosts per se

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it just ended up that way bc I didnt know who to put

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:39 PM

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untold hamlet https://pokepast.es/9741d4fa6f65b94c

@echo swallow

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i rlly dislike the mu flaws this has atm

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:40 PM

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sword im with puff glimm mrai ghold atm

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:40 PM

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dnite and ape should be dropped imo so we need to figure replacements

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Okay from first glance I don't like the combination of Slurpuff + Glimm, imo you should run either or unless you're running like a more offensive choice scarf glimm

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otherwise you're wasting two team slots on hazard setters for the most part

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I also don't think any of your teammates benefit from puff

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:41 PM

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I did glimm to add another breaker on the team + stealth rock

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oh so the team is unsalvagable on principle

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:41 PM

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offensive glimm is a fine webs abuser

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tho slotting rocks + mspin on it seems

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bad

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:41 PM

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I think webs is unnessecary

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esp if ur not running max spe darkrai

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:41 PM

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webs sucks in generl but i assumed its

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what they want here

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:41 PM

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physical rai is cool with 85 speed, you outspeed bulky guys and ohko faster threats with +2 sucker

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:41 PM

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Ill scrap it if webs is unviable

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:42 PM

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webs isn't unviable per say

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i just dont think it synergises with darkrai

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:43 PM

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so do i just start with puff and ghold

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:45 PM

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yeah

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:45 PM

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i put mdarkrai so I can actually do something vs latios

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:46 PM

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could put a number of other mons in that slot

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:48 PM

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wait who r the good latios checks

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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you could lowk try to build like scovillain-mega

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best lati check is prolly like

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av mag

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who would probably fit well

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yo ucould even run a speedy mag

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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idk about av

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just slot cm

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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yeah

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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fast cm

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cm split sounds funny af actually

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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is dual steel a good idea

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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untold hamlet is dual steel a good idea

yeah dual steel is fine

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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most teams are running

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2-3 steels

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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probably just run like air balloon ghold

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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i've seen 4

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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occa mag is an idea

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:49 PM

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shuca is surely better

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:50 PM

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yeah

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but occa is fun for

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tran

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:50 PM

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if ur sacared of mfire lati i guess occa isnt bad

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:50 PM

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though with webs you outspeed and can kill with aura sphere +1

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yeah that too

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:50 PM

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echo swallow tran

ur still losing cus it traps you

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 6:50 PM

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echo swallow though with webs you outspeed and can kill with aura sphere +1

no shot +1 aura kos

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maybe +1 focus will

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:54 PM

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so slurpuff mscov ghold mage?

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:54 PM

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should work yeah

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:55 PM

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i dont have any mage spreads

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:c

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:56 PM

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Magearna @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Soul-Heart
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Calm Mind
Draining Kiss
Aura Sphere
Fleur Cannon

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just run this @untold hamlet

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you could also invest more speed

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maybe to outspeed tran under webs

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:56 PM

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okey hwow much speed wld that be

echo swallow Dec 29, 2025, 6:56 PM

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since u have gholdengo you can run double fairy over flash cannon

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lemme see

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186

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so 80 in speed

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lets you outspeed max speed tran

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 6:57 PM

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😄

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https://pokepast.es/f15f94e54607e9b3

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 7:13 PM

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looks fine so far

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now u just need a fake/non fake ground resist and probably a fire resist

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2 slots to do it

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could do sd chomp + np washtom ?

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 7:17 PM

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sd rocks?

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 7:17 PM

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could if thats what u want to do

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 7:19 PM

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do u have a np washer spread

mighty shuttle Dec 29, 2025, 7:46 PM

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untold hamlet do u have a np washer spread

n

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set is np paracharge hpump and sub/wisp

untold hamlet Dec 29, 2025, 7:47 PM

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okey

crimson prairie Dec 30, 2025, 7:09 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1a625068435269a7

autumn brambleBOT Dec 30, 2025, 7:10 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

crimson prairie Dec 30, 2025, 7:10 AM

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insert M-Banette

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thoughts?

proud geyser Dec 30, 2025, 7:24 AM

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Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

Electro Drift
Draco Meteor
Volt Switch
Overheat

Marshadow @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Spectral Thief
Close Combat
Shadow Sneak
Ice Punch

Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Atk / 216 Def
Impish Nature

Swords Dance
Bullet Punch
Roost
U-turn

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SpD
Impish Nature

Defog
Roost
U-turn
Brave Bird

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spe
Bold Nature

Hydro Pump
Volt Switch
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split

Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
U-turn
Knock Off

can someone rate this for a cobblemon thing im doing lol this is my first time doing anythiung remotely competitive (scizor is there becaue i like it)

brave wedge Dec 30, 2025, 7:26 AM

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!cobblemon

autumn brambleBOT Dec 30, 2025, 7:26 AM

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Do not ask for assistance with fangames, Minecraft/Roblox mods, or other such titles. These games/mods have mechanics and available Pokémon which do not match those in the actual Pokémon games or Smogon's formats, and are often played with arbitrary rulesets.

autumn brambleBOT Dec 30, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Hey @random bone, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9nationaldexdoubles team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1060037469472555028 instead.

autumn brambleBOT Jan 1, 2026, 1:01 AM

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Hey @pearl nest, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9doublesubers team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059655497587888158 instead.

broken lily Jan 2, 2026, 6:57 AM

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https://pokepast.es/6658121307b45cac I need some help. Recently, Annihilape was banned into Ubers, so I need something to replace him. Any minor changes to the HO team featuring Mega Absol Z to accomodate the change will be appreciated as well.

autumn brambleBOT Jan 2, 2026, 6:57 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fierce path Jan 2, 2026, 7:10 AM

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if you want a ghost use gholdengo

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if you want a fighting something like keld works

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ceruledge also works

broken lily Jan 2, 2026, 7:37 AM

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fierce path if you want a ghost use gholdengo

of those three, which would you suggest? (also, M. Absol Z is Dark/Ghost)

fierce path Jan 2, 2026, 8:03 AM

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its prob best if you test it out yourself

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but personally im a big fan of ghold

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esp on this team where you want to keep glimm hazards

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but you already got 2 steels so idk

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something goofy would be to run ghold then replace exca with another spinner

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like morpeko 💀

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since it beats ghosts and bulk doesnt matter if its ho

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but other spinners (that are actually viable) prob work too

fierce path Jan 2, 2026, 8:06 AM

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broken lily of those three, which would you suggest? (also, M. Absol Z is Dark/Ghost)

yeah i know

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having multiple ghosts is fine here since u get more options to block stuff like rapid

final yacht Jan 3, 2026, 12:05 AM

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Ribombee @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sweet Veil
Level: 50
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Pollen Puff
Helping Hand
Tailwind
Protect

Slither Wing @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Leech Life
High Horsepower
Brick Break
Acrobatics

Scyther @ Eviolite
Ability: Technician
Level: 50
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Swords Dance
Dual Wingbeat
Bug Bite
U-turn

Yanmega @ Big Root
Ability: Tinted Lens
Level: 50
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Giga Drain
Bug Buzz
Air Cutter
Screech

Lokix @ Black Belt
Ability: Tinted Lens
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Throat Chop
Leech Life
Brick Break
Taunt

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There are 0 type overlaps

mighty shuttle Jan 3, 2026, 12:08 AM

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i have no idea what this is even for

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monotype vgc ?

final yacht Jan 3, 2026, 12:09 AM

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mighty shuttle monotype vgc ?

Nope

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I'm just doing it for fun

mighty shuttle Jan 3, 2026, 12:09 AM

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ok well idt its meant to go here if its not got a purpose in mind

pastel matrix Jan 3, 2026, 5:23 AM

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I understand bio mech is a new OM but, I do still want some advice on whether to change stats for better defense or offense, also I'm not that good. https://pokepast.es/7b396e64ed8eadb8

autumn brambleBOT Jan 3, 2026, 5:23 AM

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Hey @pastel matrix, there are presently no raters signed up to rate teams for gen9biomechmons. A rater in this channel may still step in and provide advice, but you can check out the resources for this format.

dreamy geyser Jan 3, 2026, 5:42 AM

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pastel matrix I understand bio mech is a new OM but, I do still want some advice on whether to...

You'd have better luck getting feedback for that one by asking in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059657287293222912

knotty cradle Jan 3, 2026, 9:41 AM

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https://pokepast.es/5d82f8f60a0d14ac i dont really build offense in this tier so i have no idea about the sets lol is this good

autumn brambleBOT Jan 3, 2026, 9:41 AM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

golden blaze Jan 3, 2026, 10:42 AM

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knotty cradle https://pokepast.es/5d82f8f60a0d14ac i dont really build offense in this tier so...

Id say that if you build a Cero offense then you more than likely want it on webs because its speed tier is kind of mediocre vs all the offensive mons.

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Because of that I think you’d probably want Gholdengo as well over the chomp slot to deny removal and become another special sweeper

knotty cradle Jan 3, 2026, 11:48 AM

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golden blaze Id say that if you build a Cero offense then you more than likely want it on web...

Ceru here wasnt rly the main focus, i found that due to filter wash didnt tend to be enough against mega heatran thats why its there

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I also dont know what else i would use to alleviate this mtran problem, esp as a mega

golden blaze Jan 3, 2026, 11:52 AM

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That’s fair, but that’s really just solely for the one matchup

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You could run Lati, Slowking or Xarizard

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Rotom also trades with it if you just run rest or pain split

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Since parting is still gonna make you take damage

knotty cradle Jan 3, 2026, 11:57 AM

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I could run like, lati as my off pivot and then psplit rotom yea

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That could work

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And then as my mega, maybe mluc or smth along those lines

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Could be cool

golden blaze Jan 3, 2026, 11:59 AM

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btw when I said Slowking, I meant base king

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Not Galar

knotty cradle Jan 3, 2026, 11:59 AM

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Yea yea

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Galar would need to be like av eq if it ever wants to beat shitter mtran

golden blaze Jan 3, 2026, 12:00 PM

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I mean you can run AV Base too

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0 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowking: 65-77 (16.4 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO

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252+ SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowking: 84-99 (21.3 - 25.1%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO

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It eats really well

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252+ SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking: 61-72 (15.4 - 18.2%) -- possible 6HKO

pastel matrix Jan 3, 2026, 6:51 PM

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dreamy geyser You'd have better luck getting feedback for that one by asking in https://discor...

Ty

crimson prairie Jan 4, 2026, 4:06 PM

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https://pokepast.es/afffe79a9eb4300c

autumn brambleBOT Jan 4, 2026, 4:06 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

crimson prairie Jan 4, 2026, 4:06 PM

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thoughts?

mighty shuttle Jan 4, 2026, 4:06 PM

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that clef set confuses me

crimson prairie Jan 4, 2026, 4:07 PM

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for Keldeo

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+Helps w/ Rotom wash

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n wish supports nice

mighty shuttle Jan 4, 2026, 4:07 PM

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no tect tho so its very easy to get caught out

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also none of your guys are pdef

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i hold a great concern for the bax matchup

crimson prairie Jan 4, 2026, 4:08 PM

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mighty shuttle i hold a great concern for the bax matchup

true

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somehow wins due to ttar n drill

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but very iffy

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any ideas on how to improve?

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like sets or mon changes?

mighty shuttle Jan 4, 2026, 4:34 PM

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crimson prairie like sets or mon changes?

do u need aroma on clef

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also a more offensive ttar probably suits better

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maybe change rotom to pshot for making bax easier to manage

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i think bdrum is probably bad too but can't say for sure

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would probably be better as an sd mon

native dove Jan 5, 2026, 4:21 AM

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https://pokepast.es/295c566776ec1419 Made a team based on 3 colours i like, wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on it or anything i can improve?

brave wedge Jan 5, 2026, 4:40 AM

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native dove https://pokepast.es/295c566776ec1419 Made a team based on 3 colours i like, want...

What metagame is this for?

native dove Jan 5, 2026, 4:40 AM

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Im in a cobblemon smp and the only rules for battles are no legends/mythics/paradox

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So nothing too serious, just trying to make a decent team with the theme im going for

brave wedge Jan 5, 2026, 4:44 AM

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!cobblemon

autumn brambleBOT Jan 5, 2026, 4:44 AM

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Please take a moment to review the rules of the competitive section: https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1373406929317269624

Do not ask for assistance with fangames, Minecraft/Roblox mods, or other such titles. These games/mods have mechanics and available Pokémon which do not match those in the actual Pokémon games or Smogon's formats, and are often played with arbitrary rulesets.

brave wedge Jan 5, 2026, 4:46 AM

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Sry cobblemon teams dont get rated

native dove Jan 5, 2026, 4:47 AM

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Ohh gotcha

crimson prairie Jan 5, 2026, 8:44 AM

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mighty shuttle do u need aroma on clef

true tbh, I don't really click it ig? occasionally for burns and para, what could I change it with?

crimson prairie Jan 5, 2026, 8:45 AM

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mighty shuttle maybe change rotom to pshot for making bax easier to manage

Gyarados ruins the team then I think?

crimson prairie Jan 5, 2026, 8:45 AM

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mighty shuttle also a more offensive ttar probably suits better

gotcha, any set ideas?

crimson prairie Jan 5, 2026, 9:15 AM

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mighty shuttle i think bdrum is probably bad too but can't say for sure

started queing games, Bdrum legit lets me sweep when I have 0 business doing so : sample https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9legendszaou-2512434795

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iirc I have a game where I won because I got 1 turn to bdrum on a switch to Zard Y, Zard Y proceeds to die from a quad resisted grassy glide

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*insert other example : https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9legendszaou-2510676784-gvjmesg18rc7njqlmwns2meeqghjyv8pw

(Ik I played a tad awful but somehow won)

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anyways

autumn brambleBOT Jan 6, 2026, 11:17 AM

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Hey @quaint charm, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9anythinggoes team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:01 PM

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https://pokepast.es/00d7f8c74177151c should I give clef wish? and I need a reliable way to beat rotom since I struggle with it rn

autumn brambleBOT Jan 7, 2026, 9:01 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path, @scarlet jetty. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mighty shuttle Jan 7, 2026, 9:05 PM

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distant gate https://pokepast.es/00d7f8c74177151c should I give clef wish? and I need a relia...

you have like

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no offensive power

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:07 PM

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i mean im tryna go for stall

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i probably shoulda specified im going for a semi-stall/stall type team

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mb

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:12 PM

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i just went 7-0 with this mega chesnaught set https://pokepast.es/27ee2ec1b8ec2eba lmk what yall think about it, its hella fun

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I'd take any tips or improvements yall got and I'll lab with it

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:15 PM

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wait why is ability shield run on rotom wash?

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:17 PM

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for exca

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and garchomp

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:17 PM

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chomp?

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:17 PM

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and any eq/ep mon

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yh tankchomp runs eq rock tail

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:18 PM

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yea but eq cant hit levitate mons

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exca has mold breaker

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:18 PM

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ik

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ability shield blocks mold breaker

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:18 PM

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yea what about chomp

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he got nothing to do with this

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:19 PM

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im still immune to eq...?

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:19 PM

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yea i was confused why you mentioned him

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:19 PM

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nah i didnt mean chomp as if he had mold breaker, i meant it as just rotom being a levitate mon

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 PM

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yea i get you now

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 PM

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pearl harbor nah i didnt mean chomp as if he had mold breaker, i meant it as just rotom being...

1v1 za?

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 PM

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im down

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 PM

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Sinister Patron is my user

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 PM

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wait whats ur team tho u got my whole team sheet

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:20 PM

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oh yea lemme send the one ill use

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pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:21 PM

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also wyt ab this and tuff team btw https://pokepast.es/a5decd3e8ebc0997

distant gate Jan 7, 2026, 9:21 PM

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ts tuff asl

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send me the challenge

echo swallow Jan 7, 2026, 9:35 PM

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pearl harbor i just went 7-0 with this mega chesnaught set https://pokepast.es/27ee2ec1b8ec2e...

meowstic feels weird on this team due to it having a defensive core

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magearna also having stored power with no setup move makes no sense

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:36 PM

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wait no it was this one

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https://pokepast.es/d7a6d2c8ea999dec

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in the stored power one i was gonna change magearna to sp but i forgot lmao

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just imagine the mag is a full sp set lol

echo swallow Jan 7, 2026, 9:38 PM

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seems okay but

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clef + umbreon with meowstic feels counterproductive

pearl harbor Jan 7, 2026, 9:38 PM

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i think meow should be taunt ngl

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someone told me grafaiai fits better on this team

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but idk i kinda like boots lati or meow more

mighty shuttle Jan 7, 2026, 11:47 PM

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distant gate i mean im tryna go for stall

i mean

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u kinda lose to taunt-tran no?

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ig maybe fine

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if ur problem is solely w/ rotom u could make clef mg and try to find una somewhere else w/ dozo

hybrid dune Jan 8, 2026, 12:13 AM

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made a set for a pokemon in Almost Any Ability. salazzle with merciless seemed really good so i made that, planning to make a team around it in aaa. anything i should change?

Salazzle @ Life Orb
Ability: Merciless
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Venoshock
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
Agility

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nothing resists this set. i used tera dragon to boost coverage damage and agility to outspeed (or try to) most key threats

dreamy geyser Jan 8, 2026, 12:18 AM

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Individual sets (rather than complete teams) go better in #comp-general

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Also note that as AAA is an OM, rates for that sort of teams would go in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059657287293222912

hybrid dune Jan 8, 2026, 12:19 AM

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dreamy geyser Also note that as AAA is an OM, rates for that sort of teams would go in https:/...

ah ok sorry, ill make sure to post there next time. cheers

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ill post my set in #comp-general instead

pearl harbor Jan 8, 2026, 3:14 AM

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what yall think, im mega meow https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9legendszaou-2514270203-yqg6ngv7jh1uapwacn73uepp8twqrdspw

distant gate Jan 8, 2026, 3:52 AM

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mighty shuttle if ur problem is solely w/ rotom u could make clef mg and try to find una somewh...

Thats a thought, ill test it

dreamy geyser Jan 8, 2026, 12:42 PM

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pearl harbor what yall think, im mega meow https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9legend...

The RMT section is for rating teams, not plays, rating plays is a #comp-general topic, but if this was merely to show off "cool plays" and the like, then the server as a whole isn't the place for it
Also, this can't even be rated as the battle has expired and no replay was saved

untold hamlet Jan 10, 2026, 7:47 PM

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https://pokepast.es/bbad28c78e776acb

autumn brambleBOT Jan 10, 2026, 7:47 PM

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New [Gen 9] Legends Z-A OU RMT @mighty shuttle, @echo swallow, @obsidian ingot, @fierce path. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

untold hamlet Jan 10, 2026, 7:47 PM

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ik TR smells like dirty diapers but im wondering if this works

echo swallow Jan 10, 2026, 8:46 PM

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untold hamlet ik TR smells like dirty diapers but im wondering if this works

Trick Room is actually a really strong archetype right now but for your team idk why you'd run Carbink

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It's a momentum sink unless you use explosion which I don't get why you don't just run something better like Porygon2

mighty shuttle Jan 10, 2026, 8:46 PM

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why

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feather

untold hamlet Jan 10, 2026, 8:47 PM

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echo swallow It's a momentum sink unless you use explosion which I don't get why you don't ju...

i kinda forgot that p2 existed im ngl

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