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stuck mirage
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and how you cant have 2 of the same moves on the same mon

sullen sigil
forest wadi
sullen sigil
forest wadi
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in #1024432517077540904

sullen sigil
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It means nothing

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Thats completely irrelevant

forest wadi
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you aren't willing to optimize your team...

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thats pretty relevant to the rule

sullen sigil
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Nope

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I am

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Just not team

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He told me what was wrong with it

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I told him why

forest wadi
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pig told you to learn more and you just said "no lol i made this at 3am"

sullen sigil
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Its notthing to do with my teambuilding skills

sullen sigil
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Thats why the team is bsd

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Bad

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I made it at 3am

forest wadi
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this convos getting out of topic anyways

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lets just stop

sullen sigil
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When i was tired and bored

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Took the L like a big man

tired grotto
stuck mirage
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Because regieleki suggests pure hackmons

tired grotto
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dont really knownanythig about formats so js a random build

stuck mirage
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We don’t rate stuff like that here

tired grotto
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i js played like couple days ago

stuck mirage
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Custom game has good teams too

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Ability shield eternamax go brrr

tired grotto
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so its js a random build i made to annoy my friend and it worked 😁

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but came lookong for upgrades to make it even more annoying cause its funny

stuck mirage
tired grotto
hushed coyote
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semiroom sun team

hushed coyote
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fake out indeedee is a placeholder

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idk wut to put on it

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im thinking protect

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but idk

hushed coyote
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ive tried protect instead of fake out

pseudo geyser
agile oxide
nimble thicket
# pseudo geyser https://pokepast.es/49c4e3abc786120b my doubles ubers team

kyogre has protect even though it cant use it and kyogre should be modest instead of mild, wise glass is most likely not the best item for flutter maybe try a plate if you don't want booster energy, specs, or focus sash, also you can spend more EVS on flutter try puting them into hp and poltergeist is a physical move so shadow ball, hex or night shade should replace it, grimsnarl might want to change 4 atk to 4 spa because fake out isn't doing any damage compared to dazzling gleam. Give more pokes protect, Thornadus is usally better then murkrow for prakster Twind but if you want to use murkrow, murkrows dark pulse isn't doing anything most the time foul play is better try giving it protect or taunt with the free slot. A few more things kyogre and koridons weathers cancel each other so they don't usually go to well together, change the tera types form default on murkrow and hitmontop change tera on flutter I think tera normal is to make flutter immune to calyrex shadow but if you want to check calyrex with flutter then maybe try focus sash flutter to survive and KO calyrex back unless it has a sash you can do this without burning ur tera and the last thing try to have more diversity in you types you got 2 fighting types 2 dark types and 2 fairy types.

warm anvil
pseudo geyser
abstract saddle
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Hackmons

stuck mirage
abstract saddle
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Ah oke mb

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There's no chatroom for that one?

stuck mirage
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Gen 7 pure hackmons do exist

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But your team isn’t serious

abstract saddle
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Chatroom is what I meant

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Lmfao

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So I can send this one in the general chat then ig?

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I found the appropriate channel for it

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LMFAO

tame mountain
forest wadi
tame mountain
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ah ok thank you

wise mica
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Hey I made a team for AAA gen 9 and ive been struggling with pokemon like Iron Boulder and Pecharunt and i was wondering if anyone could help

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heres the team

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me and my friend were thinking about a rock setter for focus sash mons as well

forest wadi
wise mica
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thank you!

clear coyote
forest wadi
clear coyote
languid walrus
torn hedge
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draft match is tonight, here's where the team is at
https://pokepast.es/583402bf19e74f84
kingambit set outspeeds jolly roaring moon after rock polish, and chople berry lets it live a banded brick break from moon, or unboosted adamant hawlucha close combat
low kick ohkos moon even without any overlord boosts
with overlord x5 it does minimum 75% to max physical bulk swampert
knock off is guaranteed to ohko cinccino with no boosts, unless it's a weird bulky cinccino set
iron head two shots galarian moltres with overlord x5, but goltres also can't really do anything to it back, and if it's chipped low enough for moltres to kill it, then i'll just have to pray for flinch
iron head obv ohkos sylveon, knock off two shots max physdef sableye
and i don't need to say what happens to alolan dugtrio

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dhelmise has no item so it can live one banded moon knock off, and it also only dies to unboosted goltres' fiery wrath 6.3% of the time
i'll knock off into goltres rather instead of using rock slide to avoid activating a potential weakness policy, and otherwise knock off is just never punished here
power whip ohkos bulky swampert without a rindo berry, heavy slam ohkos non-bulky sylveon, body press deals about 80% to roaring moon

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zoroark is set to outspeed jolly scarf galarian darmanitan, it can use focus blast against it
flamethrower is there to maybe proc a burn
sludge bomb for sylveon, grass knot for swampert (only about a 31% chance to ohko physically bulky pert)

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i guess i could bring female basculegion instead, but i did calcs and it can't do shit, fake ass sweeper

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should've let basc keep calm mind since it learned it in pla

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grimmsnarl is a normal screens set mostly

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if reflect is up it only takes like 34% from banded moon's iron head, and it ohkos back with spirit break ez
it's not quite as good into goltres, spirit break gets it into berserk hp, but since it lowers spatk too doesn't matter much, worst thing would be giving it weakness policy

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2hkos max physical bulk sableye, and sableye can't do much back, ig it could set its own screens or run non-prankster to bait grimmsnarl into trick, taunt, will-o-wisp, etc

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that would be epic though and if they did that i would applaud them

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it would actually only take it 84 evs to outspeed my grimmsnarl

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it also parting shots on garm, sylveon, dugtrio and cinccino

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ting-lu does its normal thing, sets rocks, clicks whirlwind, body presses because that's good into moon, garm, dugtrio, cinccino

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aegislash walls hawlucha, they can run fling to get unburden against it, but a well timed king's shield can stop that, and even boosted big nugget fling won't ohko aegi with colbur, and iron head into shadow sneak has a high chance to get an ohko against its most likely sets
colbur berry lets it live banded moon knock off
it can ohko 114 def roaring moon with close combat, those are the evs left over after they speed creep my zoroark
iron head into shadow sneak usually ohkos hawlucha
i gave it 8 speed evs to outspeed sylveon given it doesn't have any real speed investment, and it ohkos sylv with iron head
shadow sneak also lets me pick off weakened mons like garmanitan

stuck mirage
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Nope

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This isn’t worthy of AG at all

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And wrong channel

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Wrong format for the channel and wrong idea for the team

torn hedge
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they've been bringing sunny day u-turn pidgeot a couple weeks so i'm bringing taunt grimmsnarl
dhelmise resists both of iron hands' stabs, can trap with anchor shot and then use toxic and synthesis to stall
basculegion is set to outspeed timid scarf hyphlosion with rain dance up, and has an 81% chance to ohko with aqua jet without rain up

still anvil
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Can someone rate my team

stuck mirage
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random ivs

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i cant save this team and neither can the best players

torn hedge
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maybe it's a playthrough team?

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but i can't think of a game where you would have all of those mons

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cinderace means at least gen 8 and probopass isn't in gen 8, and ninjask isn't in gen 9

still anvil
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Could u rate it pls

stuck mirage
steady ledge
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dpp nu

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forest wadi
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MY EYES

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also just post the pokepaste link here

steady ledge
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i only just now noticed pursuit diglett lmao

strong pebble
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Besides the obvious crippling ice weakness how else can I improve this

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sharp stump
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i dont really know anything abt zu but i tried to make a trick room team

forest wadi
loud gust
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Is this a good team

meager quest
forest wadi
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ok i sent that before UT did this is truly a wifi moment

meager quest
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How is this a @limpid sigil moment?

limpid sigil
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Why am I here

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Where is this place

meager quest
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Welcome to O T H E R

limpid sigil
strange loom
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Did someone have little cup team plzz ?

limpid sigil
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If you want a team go to #1024781897194291251 message

fervent silo
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It's really only Slaking and Weezing

meager quest
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You have Choice Band Protect on Slaking

lavish kernel
thorn ingot
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Slurpuff @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
Naive Nature
Sticky Web
Yawn
Magic Coat
endeavor

Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
Earthquake
Iron Head
Stealth Rock
Toxic

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 100 SpD / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
Earthquake
Stealth rock
Knock off
Roost

Altaria @ Altarianite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Dragon Dance
Return
Earthquake
Roost

Azumarill @ Normalium Z
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Belly Drum
Aqua Jet
Play Rough
Knock Off

Espeon @ Light Clay
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 4 Satk / 252 HP / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
Morning sun
Psyshock
Light screen
reflect
it is a good team?

stuck mirage
frail dock
forest wadi
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this doesn't seem like any smogon meta

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and you need to provide the pokepaste

weak plover
weak plover
forest wadi
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??????

weak plover
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im kidding lol

frail dock
forest wadi
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what

frail dock
weak plover
frail dock
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??

forest wadi
frail dock
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Custom

forest wadi
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and presumably gmax and also eternamax legal

weak plover
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hes right you know

sage drift
frail dock
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Rightclicker: yeah

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Say it again

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Rightclicker: yeah

weak plover
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dude

forest wadi
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if that is so then i think this is completely unviable

sage drift
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eyeah

forest wadi
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you're also not providing the paste so we still can't help you lol

weak plover
forest wadi
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(also custom isn't a smogon meta regardless)

frail dock
weak plover
frail dock
weak plover
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also maybe emax eternutus

forest wadi
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no the problem is that this looks like a bunch of random shit slapped together and completely unoptimized

sage drift
frail dock
weak plover
forest wadi
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look

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for comparison

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this is what you are going up against

weak plover
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you litterally looked up best custom team

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right? @frail dock

frail dock
forest wadi
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...what is??

frail dock
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Your team there

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Right @forest wadi

weak plover
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dude

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this is not balanced hackmons

forest wadi
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?????

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i dont understand you

frail dock
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Dude

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I'll say it again

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You see your link there

forest wadi
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you come in here asking for help on a custom game team

frail dock
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Rigjt

forest wadi
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and i say that its bad and you need to give a pokepaste

weak plover
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he asked you to rate it

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real

forest wadi
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and then i send a team for comparison to prove that your team is bad

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i genuinely dont understand what you were trying to say during all of that

frail dock
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Listen

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You see that link there

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Withh those pokemmon

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And you think it's good

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But in reality

forest wadi
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because it is good?????????!

frail dock
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It's alright

forest wadi
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it went like 100-0

frail dock
forest wadi
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i can send you the RMT

frail dock
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Did it ever it go against itself?

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@forest wadi

forest wadi
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i'm sure

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but what does that prove

frail dock
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Then how did it win

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????

forest wadi
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???????????????????????

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fuck do you mean how did it win

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it won versus other teams

frail dock
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Dude

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It's the same team

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Vs the same team

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Also dude

forest wadi
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you never specified that??????

frail dock
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I beat a guy with 24 regigigas

frail dock
forest wadi
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before that

frail dock
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????

frail dock
forest wadi
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you are sending a mere image in this channel

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and you are expecting people to immediately know that

frail dock
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Know what

forest wadi
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"this is a custom game team to beat itself"

frail dock
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No

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That's not what I'm saying

limpid sigil
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If you’re going to post here and not follow the rmt rules and proceed to argue then don’t post here

forest wadi
limpid sigil
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Either provide a paste so people know what it is they’re looking at so they can provide help

frail dock
forest wadi
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how is that ever relevant

frail dock
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Like dude

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How did it win

forest wadi
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to the viability of a team

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i dont fucking know man how do you win against other people

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by playing said other people

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i fucking guess

frail dock
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I killed regigigias

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That's how buddy

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Right @forest wadi

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Rightclicker: yeah

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Say it again

forest wadi
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??????????????????

frail dock
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Rightclicker: yeah

weak plover
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didnt mean to ping sorry

forest wadi
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ok if you aren't gonna be clearer and collaborate i'm just gonna assume you're trolling

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bye

sacred zephyr
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What do you think about my team for ZU

forest wadi
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forest wadi
autumn brambleBOT
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Flapple (Gen 8)
Typing

Grass / Dragon

Abilities

0: Ripen | 1: Gluttony | H: Hustle

Base Stats (BST: 485)

70 / 110 / 80 / 95 / 60 / 70

Weight

1 kg (20 BP)

Gender Rate

50% Female

ashen egret
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So I am trying to build a SV Doubles Ubers team around a pivoting Miraidon set with Eject Pack Draco Meteor. I think it has a lot of potential, but I don't quite know how to make it work and what I'm missing. Could someone help me out? I'm not the best at building teams, so sorry if it is kinda bad...
https://pokepast.es/66b62e079db8758e
(also ignore the name of the team, I had a private tournament with some friends a couple months ago and won 👊 )
**Thanks! **

hexed raptor
knotty beacon
ashen egret
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might be the most offensieve team ive ever seen lol

knotty beacon
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it's a mishmash of Reg G teams sharing more or less the same core

im no expert at this stuff, but dont you get destroyed by trickroom teams and caly ice, you have ways of preventing trickroom to be set up...
Specs Terapagos Chi-Yu should deal with most of these archetypes fine... unless Heat Wave misses, that is. But yes, I otherwise have to stall it out with protect and/or rillaboom and/or prankter encore & the team struggles against "tailroom"

ashen egret
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Ah, yea makes sense. I think you have the tools to handle it, especially unterastallized Terapagos can work. I think if you change some EVs around with Terapagos and make it bulkier (as even in tailwind its not the fastest anyway), especially on the physical side for these trickroom/tailroom archetypes it could improve the overall survivability of your team with protect and fakeout on other mons. Try it, but it may not be the best advice

pseudo epoch
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I was recently trying to stop being a legendary spammer and was trying to learn how to build a team and i came up with this. I am not using this in actual competitive play as there are no rules I imposed on it (like banned pokemon, etc...) although I still cant modify pokemons in order to achieve something impossible (like hackmons). Kyogre's build would actually be a non primal kyogre using damp rock instead and the last pokemon on my team is the same as the first (A dracovish with the same build).

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forest wadi
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!pixelmon

autumn brambleBOT
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See rule 6 of #1030567099703242903 message

pseudo epoch
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Ty

stuck mirage
hexed raptor
stuck mirage
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Temp is a respected and good player

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Not one of these omg u use legends u bad person

forest wadi
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nah yeah temp is a chill dude he just does the videos for money

limpid sigil
vocal oriole
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Myb myb

slow gulch
topaz tide
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quagsire is hard to stop sweepers even with unaware due to 4x grass weakness

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and also i dont have any hazard remmoval

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Im looking at dondozo with rest, yawn, and maybe curse as a potential unaware mon

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im also looking at tentacruel with rapid spin, liquid ooze, and toxic/toxic spikes as an option

limpid sigil
thin wyvern
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I need feedback for this team!!

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My plan Is to lead with Calyrex and Lunala, and setup Trick room w/Calyrex and have Lunala use Meteor Beam and use up power herb for that +1 boost turn one

stuck mirage
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And wrong channel

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Trickroom does exist as a MU fish in Ubers but nowadays it’s really bad after miraidon got banned.

thin wyvern
stuck mirage
thin wyvern
sonic nebula
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I hope AG goes here

https://pokepast.es/aa5ee20e6bac1ccc
wonder how to improve this team. I mainly use umbreon to 4x spatk/spdef and baton pass to espeon stored power to nuke everything.

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I have the others in case umbreon dies too early

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Flareon and vaporeon are kinda iffy i wanna improve them

forest wadi
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either way this is unviable lol

sonic nebula
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K

forest wadi
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for reference you are in the tier with calyrex-s and triple arceus

sonic nebula
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Espysweeps

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I did sweep a dude with 6 arcs

forest wadi
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6 arcs suck and they prolly played like shit

sonic nebula
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Yup. Focus sashed into a calm mind

forest wadi
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no competent team is ever letting you setup 6 calm minds then bp into espeon

sonic nebula
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Well this is a meme team lol

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And I got rest jic

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I can get one cm turn one when the other guy buffs. The second since I can tank. Then I choose between rest or cm depending on tankyness. Sleep talk

limpid sigil
sonic nebula
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K

thick fjord
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hello please someone help me please to make a good team without legend poke with this 2 pokemon im in love on them ^^. thanks
Flutter Mane @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moonblast
  • Shadow Ball
  • Power Gem
  • Thunderbolt

Gholdengo @ Air Balloon
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Make It Rain
  • Shadow Ball
  • Nasty Plot
  • Recover
meager quest
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this cannel is only for completed teams, in specified metas, and without restrictions (ie, no "no legendaries")

thick fjord
delicate panther
limpid sigil
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If this is a casual in-game team we don’t rate those. The RMT section is specifically for teams users are looking to optimize for competitive formats such as OU or VGC

lavish ridge
limpid sigil
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nws

polar trail
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https://pokepast.es/54a4218415feae3d

Thinking of making a Ghost Type Gym in a Cobblemon server. I can't test this team out on Pokemon Showdown cuz Annihilape and Aegislash don't exist with each other on any Gen. lmk how I can improve on it.

limpid sigil
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!arbitraryformats

autumn brambleBOT
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Do not ask for assistance with arbitrary rulesets or restrictions placed on teambuilding, we will not help with them in this server. The competitive section is only for formats hosted on the Smogon forums, such as VGC and OU.

Additionally, do not ask for assistance with fangames, Minecraft/Roblox mods, or other such titles. These games/mods do not have feature parity with actual Pokémon games or Smogon's National Dex formats, and are often played with arbitrary rulesets.

polar trail
limpid sigil
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You’re asking about an unsupported platform for a format you’re not willing to optimize for because you want a theme team

polar trail
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What do you mean I'm not willing to optimize the unsupported platform I'm asking about?

limpid sigil
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We don’t help with pixelmon or cobblemon

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They do not have feature parity with cart or smogon’s National dex formats

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You want to play anything goes but you’re wanting to use a monotype ghost team with entirely unviable choices. The RMT channels are here for optimizing teams. Running monotype outside of monotype is not something we will help with here

tawdry bay
tawdry bay
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and CB Tar, while cool, is hard to build around

polar trail
tawdry bay
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Probably your own Scarf Caly S?

polar trail
split estuary
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You should probably use a bulkier SD Sciz as LO Sciz doesn’t really like take hits at all and is mainly an HO mon

polar trail
autumn brambleBOT
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Calyrex-Shadow (Gen 9)
Typing

Psychic / Ghost

Abilities

0: As One (Spectrier)

Base Stats (BST: 680)

100 / 85 / 80 / 165 / 100 / 150

Weight

53.6 kg (80 BP)

Gender Rate

Genderless

polar trail
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ohhh, if there are any rules about Caly, but I would def have him on my team. Who would you recommend I replace?

tawdry bay
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Haunter for sure

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if you want to play mono Ghost then why don't you use a HO team

polar trail
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Haunter was my Hazard Building pokemon. I thought limiting my opponents switching and also giving them Badly Poison (I don't actually know what the name is) would be super good

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and haunter is the only ghost type who can learn Toxic Spikes

tawdry bay
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You probably should just use Gengar instead

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if you want to lead with Toxic Spikes

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Personally, I feel regular Spikes are more useful

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you probably would want to go Focus Sash Froslass, Scarf Calyrex-S, SD Arceus-Ghost, Calm Mind Flutter Mane, Bulk Up Annihilape, and probably a bulky Gholdengo

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oh wait Marshadow is a thing

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use that instead of Annihilape

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that's about as helpful as I'll get

polar trail
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alr, thanks. I'll save this for later!

split estuary
# tawdry bay and CB Tar, while cool, is hard to build around

To add onto this point, I do think it’s a bit harder to justify putting onto a team with a banded role (which is probably its best set). Weavile often is harder to revenge kill and has a great STAB coverage against the meta that puts the opponent on the pack foot often. Crawdaunt does what TTar does but it also kills just about everything in the metagame not named Tang (but if your opponent has a Tang, then that likely means Daunt straight up murks the other 5). Still viable sure, but it pales in comparison to the other two in most cases

pseudo oracle
sacred token
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i think this is the best place to show my team

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meager quest
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!pokepaste

autumn brambleBOT
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light wadi
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Heyo

sacred token
sacred zephyr
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National Dex Almost Any Ability

vernal arrow
pure jetty
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https://pokepast.es/ba12444db020f400 gen 7 uu mega banette tspikes
trying out hex mega banette, banette forces a lot of switches by virtue of its atk stat, so it generates value for tspikes. it also lures in physdef mons like hippo, alomomola, maggron, which all get 2hkod by hex after a bit of chip

untold hamlet
upbeat matrix
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Hey could anyone help me buikd a team for a online mmo i play it goes up until unova

split estuary
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We don’t help with non Smogon formats

upbeat matrix
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Just gen 5

stuck mirage
upbeat matrix
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They follow smogon format though

full pilot
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Metagross-Mega @ Metagrossite
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 80 Def / 176 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Meteor Mash
  • Agility
  • Earthquake
  • Ice Punch

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Merciless
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Venoshock
  • Toxic
  • Toxic Spikes
  • Protect

Kyogre-Primal @ Blue Orb
Ability: Primordial Sea
EVs: 236 HP / 252 SpA / 20 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Thunder
  • Surf
  • Thunder Wave
  • Aqua Ring

Marshadow @ Mago Berry
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Shadow Sneak
  • Bulk Up
  • Drain Punch
  • Knock Off

Xerneas @ Power Herb
Ability: Fairy Aura
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SpA
Naughty Nature

  • Geomancy
  • Moonblast
  • Reflect
  • Horn Leech

Palkia @ Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Hydro Pump
  • Spacial Rend
  • Substitute
  • Aura Sphere
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gen 7 ubers

limpid sigil
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!pokepaste

autumn brambleBOT
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full pilot
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thanks

uncut jasper
split estuary
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Try OM Rates

uncut jasper
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Oh ight, thanks for the suggestion

split estuary
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np

untold hamlet
dreamy geyser
# untold hamlet https://pokepast.es/8dfe5c632c028191

You'd want Salve Strike over Play Rough on Altaria so this can double as a status absorber
Kyurem-B makes better results with a physical set and spread involving Ice Fang (it's buffed), Fusion Bolt, Roost, and Freeze Shock with Icium Z
H-Goodra would appreciate more Shell Armor as that makes it way harder to KO with the extra buffs such ability got, and benefits way more from an Acid Armor + Body Press set, Heavy Slam can remain to hit Fairy- and Ice-types
Everything else looks about fine

untold hamlet
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KyuB likes to run mixed sets as

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EP helps u smack stuff like Jirachi Klefki etc;

dreamy geyser
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Well, that can be over Roost, but it's quite up to preference

untold hamlet
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I also cant rly do icium z as that means I cant ohko koko with a ep

dreamy geyser
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Oh, in that case you could run Indecisive Orb over Life Orb for longevity then instead swap Freeze Shock with Earth Power

untold hamlet
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i dont have freeze shock rn

dreamy geyser
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Okay, to be more accurate the set would be Ice Fang / Fusion Bolt / Earth Power / Roost

untold hamlet
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yes thats my set rn

dreamy geyser
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Well, the paste had it with Freeze-Dry over Ice Fang, so just corroborating to be safe

untold hamlet
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yea ill do ifang

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the effect of indecisive orb is kinda risky ;-;

dreamy geyser
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TBH that's up to preference, but most likely you'll want Life Orb for consistency

untold hamlet
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yea bc like

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I become 10x worse into the eforementioned

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Klefki Jirachi etc

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also Goodra I havent seen much asspress since pre DLC1 tbh

dreamy geyser
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Well, that's more so of a meta trend than a proper viability sort of thing, especially considering the differences tier-wise

untold hamlet
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yeah ig, tho part of what makes Goodra so good is like

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the stuff it got in the DLC making it so that it can take advantage of dragon's hazard vomit better

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also one of the few things with like

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both knock and phazing

dreamy geyser
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This is true, indeed, but it may be more passive in other matchups, such as against Magearna (it's legal per the nerfs) or Tapu Koko, so it's up to what you prefer

untold hamlet
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against koko u check it anyway altho I couldnt fit toxic

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Magearna shld probs still be banned

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in mono

dreamy geyser
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Well, Koko gets physical Fairy STAB here, so it can put you in an uncomfortable spot at times

untold hamlet
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yes it can :C

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there is likely a mixed ev spread I can use

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yes I got one

raw rivet
stuck mirage
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All I see is free food for caly here

raw rivet
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Leavanny hits 560 speed with sun

stuck mirage
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Plus it lives a hit

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Flutter mane hits 600+ under the sun with proto speed

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You are also using mixed Typhlosion, don’t know what was going on there

raw rivet
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Who’s saying I’m letting it do that

stuck mirage
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Oh yeah, choice specs protect to bluff is something

raw rivet
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My leading pokemon averages 500 and has one shot many pokemon

stuck mirage
raw rivet
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People in low ladders are not that smart

stuck mirage
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I seriously don’t see a reason not to use arceus koraidon zamazenta etc

raw rivet
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Stop overestimating them

raw rivet
stuck mirage
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+skull

raw rivet
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And all of my favorite legendaries are cheeks

stuck mirage
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God

split estuary
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Then you shouldn’t be sending teams to be rated

stuck mirage
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Damn

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Not this kinda song and dance again

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I would be skull reacting if I could

limpid sigil
stuck mirage
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Man. +skull

limpid sigil
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It is for optimizing teams to be successful at high level play

raw rivet
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Is it possible to build a team around gigigas in this day and date

stuck mirage
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But we here have been through the “no op legendaries” or “my favorites “ song and dance many times

limpid sigil
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Especially when you’re building for an Ubers format

full pilot
stuck mirage
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We have an SV OU channel

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Also excuse me but what is Misty terrain ival doing

raw rivet
stuck mirage
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Bro is tryna play vgc

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Have fun facing 4-5 restricted legendaries mowing through everything

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Like idk what do you have for zamazenta-C + Calyrex-shadow

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  • everything else that could be paired
raw rivet
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My team is made to tank hits

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That’s also before I fixed everything

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I switched some items around so I got better defenses

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How is something supposed to outspeed something that has 1134 speed

split estuary
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I mean you have 1 mon that’s viable in doubles ubers

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2 actually

raw rivet
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I swapped snealsers and peli’s items

split estuary
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Granted I don’t play doubles Ubers

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But looking at the VR and looking at your team

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Outside of Basculegion in rain your team seems to lack fire power

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In which case

raw rivet
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It’s centred around him

split estuary
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Your rain is in jeopardy being replaced by Koraidon

raw rivet
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My old team was a sun team

split estuary
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And then Wave Crash does nothing

raw rivet
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I’ve one shot everything so far

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I like to use amoonguus to heal with pollen puff

split estuary
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Because you’re low ladder so other players are also likely using unviable stuff

raw rivet
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Yes

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Fully

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Yes

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I actually had someone get mad at me early because I was doing a match in class and needed to turn off the conputer

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Then they refused a rematch

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I could’ve 100% whooped them with my team

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Or used a better team with a higher win rate

stuck mirage
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Even if you are memeing, it gotta be funny and even then it’s not meant for this place

raw rivet
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this is the smogon server

stuck mirage
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And smogon is a competitive Pokémon server

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Mainly competitive, but this is a competitive focused channel regardless

raw rivet
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its also used to help people

stuck mirage
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Not shit teams with a bad mindset

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My man what are you gonna do when I pull calyrex shadow + koraidon + zamazenta + arceus outta my arse 💀 😭 🙏

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  • tailwind
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From torn and redirection

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Your team literally has no answers for calyrex shadow + zamazenta + koraidon, zero, none, nein, nada

raw rivet
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im in lower ladders

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tbh for this discord server either people are helpful or just the least helpful people alive

split estuary
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Rates are meant for high ladder/tournament purposes

forest wadi
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not really but like

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they are meant to be competitive

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and you gotta be willing to take advice (shocker)

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i do think just telling people "this team just sucks" without telling them why is bad tho

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and you gotta be more detailed other than just "i pull out a viable team and you lose"

stuck mirage
echo grail
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oh thats

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months ago my bad

stuck mirage
echo grail
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it put me there

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thats why i was like "wait that was in august"

stuck mirage
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Lmao

shadow elbow
meager quest
shadow elbow
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oh aight thanks

still pike
meager quest
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@dark frost you play CAP right

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Or @lavish ridge

lavish ridge
# still pike https://pokepast.es/3f363813affc31f3 Gen 9 CAP

I will say the sets don't look bad but unfortunately Astrolotl and Venomicon-E aren't the best choices usually for a typical CAP team...if you wanna go with like HO I would suggest screens as that is the most effective way to utilize setup sweepers but as is the team is a weird mix of BO and Balance with Venomicon-E thrown in the mix :/

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So I guess my question is what was the goal with the team? Any particular CAP you wanted to use?

still pike
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Thx for the feedback.

still pike
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(Sry meant to hit "off" before sending)

lavish ridge
# still pike I guess in a Bulky Offense or Balance direction? I'm not heart-set on any partic...

If you wanna build with Kit, I heavily suggest a more balance approach since it has a lot of good partners in that space such as Arghonaut, Gliscor, etc. but it can also work as a pivot on BO

For the team I do think Balance is a better approach here and you wanna swap out Lotl and Venom-E...you can go for Venom-P but it has kinda fallen out of favor recently due to Kit + meta changes. If we go the balance route, you definitely wanna slot in some form of hazard removal and I think Libra is the most obvious choice but Kit loves to pair with Tusk as well

still pike
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Kit is actually the one I'm most ok with dropping (gholdengo is the same typing). Mb if that wasn't clear.
I can probably port over Libra and Tusk sets from the sample teams I tried out.

lavish ridge
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Oh lol that is fair. I would say if you wanna drop Kit, don't tbf. Rn it is kinda everywhere and for good reason...it is fairly broken (in fact it is going through a nerf process atm)

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But you can build without it

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It is just tougher to build

still pike
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I'm in the CAP server, but not long enough to keep up with news.

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I'm sorry it was buffed this gen?

lavish ridge
# still pike I'm sorry it was buffed this gen?

Yeah. It got buffed earlier in the gen (+17 Atk, +18 Spe, +Encore, +Trace) and it has proven to be ridiculous to keep up with when using other mons so it needs to be nerfed (atm popular consensus is to get rid of Encore and/or Strength Sap as well as revert the Attack buff while also knocking its Speed down a few points)

lavish ridge
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If you wanna keep Caribolt I suggest Lum or HDB. Lum allows it to be fished by Cresc for a Scald burn and be okay and if you keep Spin, you can Spin t1 and then nail it with a STAB as you would outspeed

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HDB allows it to be a "spinner" but just in general not be worn down by hazards

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And same goes for Tusk...personally I enjoy Fire or Poison Tera in CAP if only to mess with Hemo

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Steel means you can get got by Flare Blitz

still pike
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Alr. I'll pick it back up tomorrow. Late for me.

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(Would Krillowatt fit on the team?)

lilac trout
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this is a gen 9 exclusive team for ffa

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how can it be improved

forest wadi
glossy tapir
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Thx

sharp cloud
forest wadi
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oops i left ping on

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mb

sharp cloud
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hahahaha its pure hackmons

forest wadi
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yeah this is absolutely unviable

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any self imposter proof guy comes in you auto lose

hallow compass
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my team is a based off vibes one for national dex BH, though it techincally just a BH team in PH because of Zora's z-move but regardless, I cherish them very much and im excited to see what score Iget..

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forest wadi
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this is completely unviable either way

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this team also sucks (and is outdated with bans) but at least it uses actual mons and is imposter-proofed

hallow compass
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or a 2. something?

forest wadi
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i would not give this any more than a 1/10 the moves and mons are very randomized

hallow compass
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Ah... I should've mentioned that I just battle with my friend for fun. This team is actually a fandom team for one of my blorbos too so..

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but thank you for the rating anyways! /gen

forest wadi
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still, you could do way better even assuming you have a bunch of arbitrary restrictions

hallow compass
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ill love to throw my other teams in here to see it rated as well :3

forest wadi
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also as i said national dex bh goes in #1060037469472555028

hallow compass
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yes Im posting it there

stone wind
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https://pokepast.es/b2d7d2fc52fa5d03
I’m in a gym leader server and we host frequent tournaments
This is the team is use against the other players most often
It’s mono type, 1 legend per team, 1 paradox per team 6v6 doubles
I win a good amount times but I want to know if there’s something I can improve
It’s all on the official games so this is my in game team

limpid sigil
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This channel is for TPCi and Smogon formats that don’t have their own RMT thread. We don’t help with arbitrary restrictions on teambuilding or casual in-game teams

stone wind
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Can you help me or not

limpid sigil
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If you’re interested in Monotype or Doubles OU you should check out the metagame resources for those, but this isn’t the server for what you’re asking about

stone wind
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Alr

random dirge
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can someone help me make this doubles ubers team better

stuck mirage
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Negative aura

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Zero rizz

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Get a sample team and see how they look

random dirge
stuck mirage
random dirge
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he actually kinda sweeps really well

fleet bobcat
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Doubles uu trick room team
how the hell do you use mimikyu

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Apperantly it used to be good

pliant wigeon
azure ridge
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For Battle Maison [XY]

Battle_Maison_Super_Singles__Super_Doubles.png
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Any suggestions for Gliscor EV spread or 2 other pokemon to fill up the party?

limpid sigil
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the rmt section is only for completed teams and only for nintendo/smogon formats

azure ridge
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oh :/

limpid sigil
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if you're trying to optimize for the battle facilities id recommend seeking resources in the orange islands section on the smogon forums

azure ridge
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ok thank you!

limpid sigil
azure ridge
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appreciate the link

stone wind
weak plover
forest wadi
eternal kite
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Could I get an opinion on this team im workin on

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Palafin, Archaludon, gliscor, galarian slowking, cloyster and kingambit

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This is for a random SV tourney, where theres no legendary or Mythical pokemon

limpid sigil
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We don't help with arbitrary formats in the competitive section

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please read #1024432517077540904

eternal kite
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Ah I see I just saw it was other so thought this was the spot

limpid sigil
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Nope this is for lower traffic formats like doubles ubers or such that don’t have the amount of players to justify its own thread

eternal kite
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Gotcha, thanks

hot obsidian
#

Hey! I just got back into Pokemon for the first time since I was a kid, and I want to learn more about team building. I don't know a lot about competitive Pokemon, but I would like to get into it! Could I get feedback on the team I beat Sword with? Things like how to pick movesets, strengths and weaknesses, pokemon that could be replaced with another, etc? https://marriland.com/tools/team-builder/gen-8/Ph4x8C21WpS3cqfCB4M1r2jq1C2G67Cy5Q8CpqdgC3tjpCNmsmCpSwtCkrSwCdtz5C2btVC99hdCG50kC/

Marriland Team Builder

The Marriland Team Builder, supporting Pokémon Scarlet & Violet, Sword & Shield, and older games, is an online tool to help build and plan better Pokémon teams by showing your entire team's weaknesses and resistances at a glance. Fast and mobile-friendly.

limpid sigil
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the competitive section isn't for in-game teams. if you're looking to get into competitive pokemon I'd recommend you take a look at the resources in the competitive tips section of #1024432517077540904 , decide on a format you're interested in playing, grabbing a sample team so you can start learning, and learning how to use smogon's strategy dex to look up useful information

hot obsidian
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Okay, thank you! Sorry about that, I'm still new to all of this

limpid sigil
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nws

split estuary
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Read above

storm axle
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Okay

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But what’s this channel for then

dreamy geyser
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For lesser rated metagames supported by Smogon that aren't sufficiently active for sections of their own, like CAP and Pet Mods

split estuary
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They were asking about in game teams

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Which I assume is pkmn general

hot obsidian
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I misread the rules, so I posted an in game team asking how to make it competitive, my bad

sacred zephyr
meager quest
sacred zephyr
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Thx for suggestion

meager quest
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ask for chessking when you get there

uncut jasper
exotic birch
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Can I send Gen 9 National Dex AG Teams Here? I just want some advice on a team or two

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I play Showdown for fun every now and then and I use these teams in Shield

forest wadi
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yeah that goes here

dreamy geyser
exotic birch
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not OU

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which if it does go here ill post it in a little

dreamy geyser
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"Non-OU"
All ND stuff but NDOU goes there

exotic birch
autumn brambleBOT
limpid sigil
weak plover
forest wadi
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a good ladder team easily gets >95% wr

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even good teams that arent built with ladder in mind can go >80% easily

weak plover
forest wadi
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that is literally proof your team is bad no

stray sorrel
lavish ridge
# stray sorrel Very used thread... mix and mega seemed fun https://pokepast.es/050fecde0e321065

https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059657287293222912 This is where you would wanna send any OM teams to be rated for future reference

That being said, I do think Iron Boulder is not an ideal mon here or at least if you are gonna use it you don't wanna use the worser of the 2 Lati stones. I am not sure what the team's goal is, but that is something that stuck out to me. Bolt, Corv, and DNite all look standard and Lunala would probably want Roost > Moonlight

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Is the idea behind the team to break down things for Dnite to sweep?

stray sorrel
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Thought doesn't latiosite give more attack?

lavish ridge
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Oh I thought it got that. May be past gens

lavish ridge
floral folio
dreamy geyser
keen hare
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Nat dex Ubers

dreamy geyser
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Although this is unviable, this has 2 stall mons, a suicide lead, and quite known unviable sets like Focus Sash Marshadow and Scarf Kyogre
I'd recommend to grab a sample team, as this'd otherwise require basically remaking the whole team to "fix" it

keen hare
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Ok :((((

neat olive
forest wadi
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though if im being honest this is completely worthless either way

neat olive
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i tried :(

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could i build a team around any one of them?

forest wadi
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only hatt is viable on extremely specific structures

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and i think the set isnt it

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you can take a look at a hatt structure to see how it works

meager quest
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sob

heavy hinge
quick kernel
meager quest
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that bum?

quick kernel
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?

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we got problems?

twin thicket
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https://pokepast.es/49ff59211070772c im very new to making teams and comp but have been getting alot of wins with this team i made in uu doubles after alot of adjusting for a few days im just trying to see what i can change to make it better

forest wadi
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i would take a look at #pkmn-general, the rmt section is mostly for smogon formats

visual fern
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cool thanks 🙂

swift trout
forest wadi
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what is this for

modern ocean
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This started as a joke but like, genuinely what would be wrong with these three on a doubles team? Besides the horrid temporary moveset like, these three cover most things pretty damn well together

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forest wadi
#

!pixelmon

autumn brambleBOT
#

Please take a moment to review the rules of the competitive section: https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1373406929317269624

Do not ask for assistance with arbitrary rulesets or restrictions placed on teambuilding, we will not help with them in this server. The competitive section is only for formats hosted on the Smogon forums, such as VGC and OU.

Additionally, do not ask for assistance with fangames, Minecraft/Roblox mods, or other such titles. These games/mods have mechanics and available Pokémon which do not match those in the actual Pokémon games or Smogon's formats, and are often played with arbitrary rulesets.

brave edge
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noted, will delete, sorry for the issue

forest wadi
#

dw

timid plover
forest wadi
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we only rate competitive teams

viscid island
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Team

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Oh nvm

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Scale shot

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Garchomp

forest wadi
halcyon hearth
prisma prism
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Sun team I made for DUbers to beat my friends Rain Team

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Sry for poor quality

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I've played a few battles with it against other people and it's been doing well

dreamy geyser
prisma prism
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DUbers

dreamy geyser
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Yeah, the "OU" bit is mainly there just to avoid confusion with VGC

prisma prism
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Alr

elder plinth
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Team for an atla based league, i choose water tribe, i want to replace araquanid for another mon(i have kyurem, iron leaves, and grimmsnarl in mind, but im open to any suggestion)
,the ones with a red background are open to take
format is gen 9 natdex draft

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forest wadi
unkempt vigil
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any idea what could be last

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and hows the current setup

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its trademarked

unkempt vigil
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and is it possible to add a trick room user in here

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💀

forest wadi
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#1059657287293222912

lyric timber
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does FFA fall into this category?

meager quest
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yes but idk if we have any FFA raters

forest wadi
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barely anyone plays non random ffa anyways

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even less at a high enough level to rate

lyric timber
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oof alr

brittle field
forest wadi
autumn brambleBOT
#

Please take a moment to review the rules of the competitive section: https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1373406929317269624

Do not ask for assistance with arbitrary rulesets or restrictions placed on teambuilding, we will not help with them in this server. The competitive section is only for formats hosted on the Smogon forums, such as VGC and OU.

Additionally, do not ask for assistance with fangames, Minecraft/Roblox mods, or other such titles. These games/mods have mechanics and available Pokémon which do not match those in the actual Pokémon games or Smogon's formats, and are often played with arbitrary rulesets.

brittle field
forest wadi
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can u read

#

Do not ask for assistance with arbitrary rulesets or restrictions placed on teambuilding, we will not help with them in this server. The competitive section is only for formats hosted on the Smogon forums, such as VGC and OU.

carmine solar
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Hello sorry is there where i can ask about doubles ubers for showdown?

forest wadi
carmine solar
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I'm currently trying to make an armourouge team for doubles uber and i have the armourouge, indeedee and kinggambit but I'm not sure what else to put on the team

weary prairie
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making a chess based team (not a extremely competitive team)

autumn brambleBOT
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Hey @weary prairie, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9ou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1297721195604611163 instead.

weary prairie
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i'm not allowed to (i know it's a bot)

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"too gimicky" they said

halcyon hearth
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it is

weary prairie
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what would you rate it out of 10?

halcyon hearth
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pretty bad/10

weary prairie
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thanks

autumn brambleBOT
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Hey @stark horizon, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9anythinggoes team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1208795569649356820 instead.

meager elm
halcyon hearth
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Oh boy

meager elm
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thats never a good sign

halcyon hearth
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Is the first thing

meager elm
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then where should i go?

halcyon hearth
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Idk

dreamy geyser
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!pixelmon

autumn brambleBOT
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carmine solar
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See if I'm trying to have a fire water grass core in my team should they all be different pokemon or would it be fine having a fire mon and then ogerpon wellspring

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It's probably better if they are different pokemon. A Grass/Water type if you want your water type vs fire types seems like they'd do a worse job at being water type due to also being a Grass type. 🤔

However, I've definitely seen people be like "my fire water Grass core has both a rillaboom and firepon" even if they both share the grass type. Can also have Incineroar + WaterPon as a duo.

Some of these things should probably be taken as guidelines more than anything else. They're not necessarily these harsh firm rules that are unbreakable.

Then outside of FWG, Zacian + Dragon = Fairy/Dragon/Steel core could also be arguably acceptable 😉

carmine solar
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Thank you so much would it be a good idea to have FWG and fairy/ dragon and steal

dreamy geyser
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That'd depend on the metagame, some tiers lack the variety of viable options to pull that kind of specific cores, plus there'd also be the matter of how such typings are used, not every Pokemon excels both offensively and defensively

forest wadi
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!arbitraryformats

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steady arrow
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!nolegends

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tropic bolt
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Any changes I could do to this Godly Gift team?

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tropic bolt
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Oh

golden snow
dreamy geyser
golden snow
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ty

weary bobcat
dreamy geyser
dreamy geyser
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😭

primal ridge
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Guys i created a team but Idk which format it is..

I can't use any legendary or mythical Pokémons or use mega evolution

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Do i post it here?

halcyon hearth
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!nolegends

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primal ridge
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Well i won't ask for any assistance with arbitrary rulesets

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Ill jsut ask u to rate my team

meager quest
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no legends or mythical pokemon is an arbitrary ruleset

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if it's not a smogon format, we do not rate it

primal ridge
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Could u tell me the closest format to me

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Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Dragon Rage
  • Earthquake
  • Poison Jab
  • Swords Dance

Blaziken @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Flare Blitz
  • Close Combat
  • Protect
  • Thunder Punch

Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Unnerve
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Crunch
  • Stone Edge
  • Pursuit
  • Earthquake

Toxapex @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

  • Scald
  • Haze
  • Recover
  • Toxic Spikes

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 SpD
Relaxed Nature

  • Spikes
  • Leech Seed
  • Power Whip
  • Protect

Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Iron Head
  • Rapid Spin
  • Swords Dance
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This is the team

meager quest
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are you building for NatDex or SS OU?

primal ridge
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So i can post it in their

meager quest
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it sounds like you are not playing a smogon format

primal ridge
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Without any rulesets.. Just following the format itself

primal ridge
meager quest
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so we cannot give you a meaningful rate cause we don't know what type of meta you're trying to play this team in

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so we can't gauge its strengths and weaknesses

primal ridge
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primal ridge
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I think i follow the national dex format

halcyon hearth
primal ridge
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I feel like its weak

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It's very bad against fighter type

halcyon hearth
primal ridge
primal ridge
halcyon hearth
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Ask in #1060339824537641152 and put the paste in gen 8 ou if that's what u want

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Or if that's what ur playing

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solid salmon
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Hey so I’ve got this team I’ve been trying out it’s decent so far but I wanted opinions (idk how to links so :/)

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dreamy geyser
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!shareteam

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stray sleet
dreamy geyser
stray sleet
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it’s uu

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i think

solid salmon
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Mb I changed that to a muscle band

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It’s UU

stray sleet
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oh i thought its gen 6 uu

solid salmon
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Wait mb ou

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I’m new to this literally only today

dreamy geyser
stray sleet
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i thought that was for gen 9 mb

solid salmon
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@stray sleet in all seriousness would you mind giving your opinion on my team please 🙂

stray sleet
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i am not a rater so maybe i sent that in dms or smth

solid salmon
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Ok thank you

dreamy geyser
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Only OU is divided by gens, the others aren't that active to get their own threads per generation

solid salmon
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I see

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So eventually someone will just come along and comment on it?

dreamy geyser
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Ideally
Sometimes a tier just has no signed-up raters to begin with, in which case you'd want to reach out a more pertinent Discord server or PS room

halcyon hearth
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stray sleet
stray sleet
stray sleet
dreamy geyser
lavish ridge
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I don't particularly like Ting-Lu here as it is a good Spiker but there are better SR mons and arguably better Ground types

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Also Venomicon isn't the goat it used to be

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I would argue Garg is fantastic for any type of fat team in CAP and can provide more chip damage with Salt Cure/forcing switches

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And can provide SR as well

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Also I would go Wisp on Kit and drop Glare on Shox for Ice Beam

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A fun idea also is to swap Venom out for Moltres and run CM Clef > Hemo but that does make the team really slow

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Also something I really have been enjoying personally lately is Foul Play Argh to just shut down any and all physical attackers especially when you have another mon with Knock

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And Tera Dark is actually useful thanks to taking Psychic-types which most CAP teams tend to be weak to

stray sleet
lavish ridge
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So like Argh + Shox is probably good enough but unlike OU, CAP has solid removal options

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Mainly Equilibra but it is reliable af

stray sleet
lavish ridge
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But I like Argh + Garg as a neat little core for hazardstack and then pairing it with Kit is nice to give the team some Speed + Wisp support

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Ting + Mollux is a nice fat core too...and Mollux can either SR or Spin depending on how the rest of the team falls into place

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I guess my question for you @stray sleet is that was Ting the only thing you wanna build with it or is it Ting + Argh or...?

stray sleet
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the main ones i want to use r hemo and shox

lavish ridge
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Okay hmm...I don't personally think they fit together just because they are doubling up on the Ground weakness right out of the gate and the slow pivot Shox provides isn't really necessary to Hemo as it is slow itself

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plus Band is arguably Hemo's better set atm lol

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Hemo works best on offense while Shox is more fat/balance so I would personally pick one to mess with at first and make 2 teams since you wanna build with both

stray sleet
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maybe shox first then

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shox fat h stack

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cuz i like fat h stacks

lavish ridge
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Okay lemme take another look at the team and kinda see what changes can be made

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Okay @stray sleet so with the idea of Shox fat hazardstack I decided to drop Ting for SD Gliscor which gives the team a solid win con while also providing a good Knock Off absorber once Toxic Orb has been activated...

I also swapped Hemo for Clefable as that gives you a mon with SR, another Knock Off absorber (albeit a shaky one), and the obligatory Fairy type

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This is what I have so far

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I also dropped Venom as it doesn't fit atm but still looking for a 6th

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And Shox and Clef's 4th moves are really dependent on what you want them to do tbh

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Like for Clef, Flame is good to chip Libra or CM for a monoattacking late game setup mon

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Knock ofc would allow you to run Foul Play Argh with Tera Dark but that is probably up to preference

stray sleet
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imma read that later but tysm

lavish ridge
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Shox's 4th can be Ice Beam for Gliscor or Knock as well if you want it there...

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Ofc. I will try to find a 6th but gtg work for now so will ping later if I do find one catheart

stray sleet
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gl for work (?)

lavish ridge
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@stray sleet I came up with 2 versions...

https://pokepast.es/4fda254ce7acf60d This one leans into the paralysis spreading that Shox and Clef can do and allows Kyurem to break everything and Gliscor to clean up the rest or vice versa lol

https://pokepast.es/3e87f52bca679fbc This one leans more into physical slamming with SD Woger + Glisc and then surprise CM Clef with mono Moonblast to clean up late game-ish lol

The first one is kinda more balance leaning than fat but is definitely fatter than Woger so I figured if you wanna try both and lemme know your thoughts then yeah 😅

stray sleet
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tysm

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i check later i got some customers

stray sleet
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i have played a few games with that and i got some question or stuff :
-why is arg using lefties instead of spikes?it has recover for recovery and it takes dmg for spikes too(unless it isn’t common in the tier)
-if i would want another knocker what would be a good substitute for it cuz i dont feel like i click it that much on arg as it needs to spikes + knock + circle throw set ups and stuff
-i prefer the kyurem more cuz it can have boots as the team often doesn’t have enough pressure/ways to deal with hazard and kyurem with boots can sometimes help to defense while for oger it is chopped by hazard
But tbh its just like 1100-1200 and it cant rlly show much (and holy it takes years to find a match psycry ) Anyways thanks for the team catheart

lavish ridge
# stray sleet i have played a few games with that and i got some question or stuff : -why is a...

A's to your Q's

  • Argh can use Boots, Lefties just provides passive chip recovery to conserve Recover's PP and it can switch into Knock Off a bit more freely since it would lose Lefties but still have Recover. Either or is fine though
  • You can go Knock on Clef or Shox if you want to squeeze in another Knock mon
  • Glad to know the Kyurem version is working for you BIGroot

As for the ladder...yeah CAP ladder is kinda dead almost always...I highly recommend hanging in/visiting the PS! room and getting staff to set up tours if possible

stray sleet
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“CAP ladder is kinda dead almost always” 😭😭

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appreciate the help catheart

rich ridge
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Doubles team I am using. I want to increase synergy ideally without changing pokemon (i like these ones).

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Gyarados Is jolly forgot to add it

dreamy geyser
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!pixelmon

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rich ridge
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Power word bruh

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Rephrased

stray sleet
lavish ridge
stray sleet
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ic ic crab hammer seems to be a fun tech

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thanks catheart

dreamy nymph
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https://pokepast.es/38d6238071f9ded1
my ag team, i have tera normal hyper beam miraidon because i needed a normal type for immunity against calyrex in case i ever mess up and give it +1 SpA, and i needed something a stab that could output lots damage if i was ever in a pinch and electro drift wouldn't cut it

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teal skiff
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forest wadi
teal skiff
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abstract bison
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forest wadi
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rancid hamlet
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dreamy geyser
maiden raven
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!shareteam

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agile umbra
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echo grail
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no

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its other

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also im working on it

agile umbra
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I actually wouldn't know that, I figured given it was a mashup it'd go here

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tyy

echo grail
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mashups indeed do go here

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  • drop blissey for hydrapple or a type immunity mon, thr's vr is ass and she put an a- mon in S
  • idk what mdia is trying to do but its not working and really wants a fully offensive set so ill let u decide
  • lycan wants pivoting
  • pex can be either dark/poison with ruination/knock mspin or water/poison and drop nuzzle (your speed control is good already)
  • regirock probably wants something over anchor shot tbh
dreamy geyser
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@quick kernel Is this true? Asking so that I may just add a note to the pins while at it if so

quick kernel
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historically they've gone here i believe

echo grail
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@agile umbra i dont know why ttlt said to change mlati to mdia since they do different things entirely, that being said im not sold on fire/steel as a typing anyway and would probably suggest fire/ground or fire/fighting

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you really dont want to be resisted by water AND fire

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make them work for it

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altho tbh i still find both of those typings bad into the meta

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i would just probably run the standard elec/poison taunt shore tcage set

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its a significantly better stallbreaking set

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usually the poison move is mspin but you can easily get away with maligchain

wicked wigeon
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I have never been into the competitive scene but when I was a kid a many years ago and until these recent days. So please have mercy on my gen 3 team

https://pokepast.es/403e998700cc5550

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dreamy geyser
wicked wigeon
quick plank
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Making a team centered around May, not for any specific category. I won't lie I don't really know what to do with Snorlax and Delcatty to make them remotely optimal. Any tips? (Ignore snorlaxes current moveset lol)

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!arbitraryformats

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stray sleet
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https://pokepast.es/48a07360a03934d2 dont have a particular style in mind but was aiming for the creseidon+equil+ramn core (ok this prolly kinda sucks and need a rework clueless )(almost got 6'0ed by a garg 😭)

dreamy geyser
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@lavish ridge

stray sleet
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thanks for the ping mewheart

sudden notch
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dreamy geyser
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Rare footage of Steorra stealing teams

dark frost
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Yo

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Lowkey, drop polar flare on ram for Flash Cannon to aid with garg

stray sleet
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is the ice form not worth it to use

dark frost
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But definitely drop the tomo and Cruci I'd not run either of them in this meta at all

stray sleet
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ic

dark frost
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I'm thinking of Woger and Venom to replace the two

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And the Dex set for libra lol

lavish ridge
dark frost
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Idt you need max spdef for a team with an AV steel

stray sleet
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252 HP / 40 SpA / 216 Spe with a Modest nature or 52 HP / 52 Def / 112 SpA / 40 SpD / 52 Spe with a Modest nature

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from the dex page it suggests these 2 alterantives

dark frost
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Yep

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I believe I QCed that but I don't remember what they do off the dome

stray sleet
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clueless let me use the 5 spread one cuz its fancier (well from the dex it says that the spread invests heavily in Special Attack for incredibly powerful Doom Desires)

dark frost
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You probably can get away with fast libra here lol

stray sleet
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i see

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is sd woger the better option here as it grants me a win con

lavish ridge
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Could also do NP Venom but I think the SR set works best here to give the team entry hazards

stray sleet
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catheart tysm both of u

lavish ridge
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Ofc 🙂

halcyon hearth
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halcyon hearth
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does this belong here

dreamy geyser
halcyon hearth
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it says so

dreamy geyser
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Yeah, that's my advice, this channel doesn't cover Gen 8 NDOU

elfin goblet
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is it possible to make scovillain viable? I think that the thing i should rely on is that scovillain is the only chlorophyll user with stab fire, was also planning to use it in double battles to mess around with defiant and spicy extract

dreamy geyser
charred frigate
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latent remnant
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can't find the pure hackmon so here is my team

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yes its a stall yes im bad at the game yes i spam chansey

lavish ridge
willow dawn
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stray sleet
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stray sleet
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er i am back 😭 so uh i changed some minor stuff and got snael with sd (i think phydef is better here ngl cuz i got 2 more "spdef" in the steels

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also debatable on if i run rough skin on cresei cuz i got 2 removals

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|| ok so theres a previous version https://pokepast.es/8415c33c38fcc155 and well its actually pretty flawless i'm ngl but then i faced like a shox and it flipped me over smh despite equil is in the team and it has glare and ice beam nor did i want to get paraed so er yeah(i won but then) another thing is the poison book ( venicrom) it feels oddly mid in the meta offering not much ngl also dropped flash cannon on ram bc after losing tblaze woger feels better to have another form of speed control||

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if possible pls keep ping on mewheartthx in advance

lavish ridge
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I think if you want a Facade mon, Gliscor is immensely better here

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And gives the team overall a Knock Off absorber which is nice since Pult, Libra and Boots Cresc do not wanna lose their items

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And with Woger you have free switch-ins to Water moves any day lol

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Opposing Woger can be an issue though so I would recommend potentially going Dragon on Libra but it isn't like it can do much back so up to you on that one

stray sleet
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flop prolly stacking 3 water type isn’t a great idea
just felt like giving another removal and a cres answer (or i can just do cres vs cres clueless )and knock absorb

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prolly will try out gliscor first

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mind if i ask how do u do type stacking

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cuz i saw like a triple steel and triple flying team in like samples

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and both of them r fat too

stray sleet
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😭 https://pokepast.es/956ebb711c52a8d7 / https://pokepast.es/7d872cb6a0082d8f sorry for like 2 ping in a day ( sv ou raters on the other side clueless ) prolly still need more games to test it but boohoo ladder matches r so annoying to find (spent like 2 hours for 5 matches) hemo prolly doesnt do much ngl prolly i just need another late game sweeper to make use of shrimp+hazard chip or prolly spdef spread is that good but it seemed interesting

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stray sleet
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||mollux is like rlly insane 🥀 it just checks so much ||also idk if its good idea but i kinda want toxic somewhere cuz i faced a tera ground hemo and it uh near 6'0 me or even equil was problematic ( therefore theres the latter team but that one is hard walled by mollux)

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if like 99% of the mons hv to be thrown into the trash bin then uh maybe keep shrimp+hemo(+ mollux)

upper holly
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lavish ridge
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it was like er tera groun tb hemo

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tbf fairy ground is annoying to resist so ig its what it is

lavish ridge
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Woger is probably another issue without Mollux (and some run Stomping Tantrum just for it tbh lol)

stray sleet
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is snael not a fine enough woger check?

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unless power whip nukes it out

lavish ridge
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Honestly I would replace Shrimp with Woger and that helps the team out quite a bit but idk if Double Water immunity is necessary but it does kinda mess with Hemo even if it doesn't like taking ESpeed