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vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:45 PM

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thats how it fits on HO mostly

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calm mind

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:45 PM

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okay

vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:45 PM

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you already have it so just change wisp to earth power

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:45 PM

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okay did that

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is there anything else i need to change or is that it

vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:46 PM

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well you removed toxapex so you need to add something else for it

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depends on what you need on the team

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like rn calyrex shadow clicks astral barrage for free against your team

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arceus can help with it

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:48 PM

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okay

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what should i give for toxapex

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maybe donzdzo

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prob rest curse liuqudiaton and maybe sleep talk

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and weakness policy

vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:50 PM

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nah

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oh HO you need pokemon that win you games before the opponent does

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dondozo will just sit there and rest once every 5 turns

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:51 PM

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True true

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then kingambit

vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:51 PM

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maybe yeah

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you can use kingambit if you want

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:51 PM

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sucker punch kowtow sword dance. and rest

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okay `

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im gonna try that

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see you after i test the team out

vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:52 PM

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nah

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no rest

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iron head

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:52 PM

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okay iron head

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got it

vestal ice Oct 15, 2023, 4:52 PM

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yes

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good luck with your laddering adventures

hardy quartz Oct 15, 2023, 4:53 PM

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Thanks for the help

fickle charm Oct 19, 2023, 11:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/a1c43e45c0b4a524

lapis atlasBOT Oct 19, 2023, 11:21 PM

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vestal ice Oct 20, 2023, 6:58 AM

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fickle charm https://pokepast.es/a1c43e45c0b4a524

hey, thats a nice start for a HO, i would just suggest some changes wrt sets and some Pokemon
with webs

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remove sableye and waterceus, support/defensive pokemon dont do well on HO, i would also change the calyrex set to make it nasty plot 3a rather than 4 attacks with life orb/ boots w/e you think fits well. Scarf Koraidon is nice for boots users and all but if you want you can also use scale shot swords dance, on miraidon you dont need much speed at all since after agility you do outspeed the whole tier so something like 96(?) speed evs would be good, rest in hp

fickle charm Oct 20, 2023, 12:02 PM

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https://pokepast.es/a0277f54c3bacf40

lapis atlasBOT Oct 20, 2023, 12:02 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fickle charm Oct 20, 2023, 12:02 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4bf4c86da05e5e7d]

vestal ice Oct 20, 2023, 2:20 PM

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hey can we focus on one at a time? Have any questions about my feedback for the first team?

gusty bramble Oct 22, 2023, 2:29 AM

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https://pokepast.es/0f0cb66fffe7692c

lapis atlasBOT Oct 22, 2023, 2:29 AM

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gusty bramble Oct 22, 2023, 2:30 AM

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gusty bramble https://pokepast.es/0f0cb66fffe7692c

Sun team idea I had, most legendaries are banned besides Landorus, tornadus, thundurus, the three dogs, lugia, Latios&latias, heatran, marshadow (no paradox Pokémon, or most gen9 Pokémon, however baxcalibur, the starters, and glimmora are allowed)

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Looking for advice for any changes I had in mind, I typically struggle with mega lopunny and heatran

fluid wharf Oct 22, 2023, 2:58 AM

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gusty bramble Sun team idea I had, most legendaries are banned besides Landorus, tornadus, thu...

If you have restrictions, that wouldn't really be an ag meta the raters are knowledgeable of

gusty bramble Oct 22, 2023, 3:02 AM

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fluid wharf If you have restrictions, that wouldn't really be an ag meta the raters are know...

I didn’t really know where else to put it because the only real restrictions are most legendaries but megas like mega salamence are allowed

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Sorry I’m new to the server

fluid wharf Oct 22, 2023, 3:05 AM

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gusty bramble I didn’t really know where else to put it because the only real restrictions are...

Comp gen is your best bet but I don't think they're allowed here

undone parrot Oct 22, 2023, 3:12 AM

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gusty bramble https://pokepast.es/0f0cb66fffe7692c

This channel is for SV AG, not NatDex AG; this would go in #1060037469472555028

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most legendaries are banned
Actually never mind; you won’t be able to build a competitive AG team without legendsries ~~or revive cats~~

vestal ice Oct 22, 2023, 5:58 AM

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gusty bramble https://pokepast.es/0f0cb66fffe7692c

doom

trim cedar Oct 23, 2023, 1:43 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4409b568f1e66e7d thoughts?

lapis atlasBOT Oct 23, 2023, 1:43 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

trim cedar Oct 23, 2023, 1:46 PM

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you can ping me with the response, i don't mind

vestal ice Oct 23, 2023, 2:06 PM

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trim cedar https://pokepast.es/4409b568f1e66e7d thoughts?

Hey, thats a good start, i would suggest some set changes and some overall changes below

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well hit enter prematurely but yeah

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you kinda need something to switch into physical attackers like koraidon and all, you got tinglu for caly/miraidon and other spa things like cm arc ground/etern but dont have anything for physical attackers, if you are planning to go offensive wrt to the team then i would suggest trying to fit landorus in somewhere if you are aiming for balance then toxapex is good also absorbs tspikes so its you get that utility as well

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coming to sets, on arceus ground you dont need agility + sd when you have ddance that also gives you one more free slot for taunt/recover/filler, no extreme speed either go shadow claw for giratina-o

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sash calyrex is only usable on HO, you dont have any hazard removal and theres already too many hazards in the meta so its better to use other item like LO/boots depending on what you need

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if you are to use taunt tinglu then give it some speed so that it actually works and taunts first against other tinglu and stuff like skele and all

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tera fire zacian is cool but i would not be running tera blast with it, if you want to run tera blast i would suggest using tera ground + tera blast, takes care of skele + toxapex or wild charge over tera blast if you wanna stick to tera fire

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4a koraidon isnt very useful, i would suggest using either SD loaded dice with scale shot or scarf

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and ig thats what i can see, lmk if you have any questions and thanks for sharing the team @trim cedar

trim cedar Oct 23, 2023, 2:16 PM

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tysm for the advice! what speed benchmark would you recommend on ting-lu?

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just dirge and the ting-lu mirror?

vestal ice Oct 23, 2023, 2:17 PM

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i use something like 176 speed with 252+ spd rest in hp it hits like 171

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there is no such benchmark but like people keep creeping up so yeah

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if you are just aiming for opposing tinglus then low investment wouldnt be too bad either

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like 24 or something

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:18 PM

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I recently lost all my teams and i made this one https://pokepast.es/d2d35cc24d5d5e62 is it decent?

lapis atlasBOT Nov 13, 2023, 6:18 PM

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vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:26 PM

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hey @restive flare , it does seem decent to me at best, i would suggest some changes tho

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the first thing is that on bulk up arceus leftover is much better than life orb, the main thing with bulk up over sd is the longevity

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like with bulk up you make revenge killing harder and take physical attacks better

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:28 PM

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The ivs keep the same, right?

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:28 PM

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so life orb damage doesnt really makes sense

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if you want, you could go some speed to outspeed other arceus, or more like 307 or smth for kyogre but i prefer to be around 280 which should be like 12/16 speed evs

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also giratina origin is a strictly better defogger than giratina

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because there arent much defoggers/spinners other than that

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and origin is immune to spikes/toxic spikes + helps against arceus ground

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spikes are very common so thats why

olive rain Nov 13, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Can anyone rate this? https://pokepast.es/83c85521932d6175, what to swap or which mon could be better fit. Thx.

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:31 PM

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vestal ice and origin is immune to spikes/toxic spikes + helps against arceus ground

Griseous core is for origin, right?

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:31 PM

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yeah

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griseous orb/core

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idr which

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Thx. I did those changes on my team

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:33 PM

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olive rain Can anyone rate this? https://pokepast.es/83c85521932d6175, what to swap or whic...

some martin i would suggest you check out vr and sample teams, smogon is down but i am sharing the links below
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-viability-rankings.3724219/ vr
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-sample-teams-post-home.3727176/ samples

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:34 PM

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restive flare Thx. I did those changes on my team

oh and if you go tinglu over arceus dark you also take care of miraidon which arc dark doesnt

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tho you need to watch out for grassknot from calyrex-shadow

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Ahhh... then i rather dont put ting over arc dark

undone parrot Nov 13, 2023, 6:35 PM

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olive rain Can anyone rate this? https://pokepast.es/83c85521932d6175, what to swap or whic...

Which metagame is this supposed to be for?

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:35 PM

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uturn over volt switch on miraidon, ground types gain easy momentum if you are locked into it

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Ok

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Thx for the help

olive rain Nov 13, 2023, 6:37 PM

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undone parrot Which metagame is this supposed to be for?

Its just casual

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:37 PM

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restive flare Ahhh... then i rather dont put ting over arc dark

well you can try it out if you want but im sure you will have some trouble with miraidon, also on calyrex shadow im not sure sash is the best item, it gets broken p easily, boots, life orb, specs are good ones if you want

undone parrot Nov 13, 2023, 6:37 PM

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olive rain Its just casual

Do you mean like, a cart team?

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:38 PM

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vestal ice well you can try it out if you want but im sure you will have some trouble with ...

Can i run rest on it to have some recovery? Cuz one of my points with arc is recover

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:38 PM

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restive flare Thx for the help

and maybe wild charge over cc on zacian for toxapex with some other tera like fire

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:38 PM

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restive flare Can i run rest on it to have some recovery? Cuz one of my points with arc is rec...

electric terrain blocks rest so it wont work

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:39 PM

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Ahhh... i forgot about that

restive flare Nov 13, 2023, 6:39 PM

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vestal ice and maybe wild charge over cc on zacian for toxapex with some other tera like fi...

Ok

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Is tera steel (for bblade double stab) good?

olive rain Nov 13, 2023, 6:43 PM

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undone parrot Do you mean like, a cart team?

its just something I found and wanted to know if its good or not

undone parrot Nov 13, 2023, 6:45 PM

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It’s not good for the Anything Goes metagame

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You might try OU? It looks OU-legal to me

vestal ice Nov 13, 2023, 6:45 PM

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restive flare Is tera steel (for bblade double stab) good?

hm i dont think its bad, helps vs opposite zacs and gets some calculations but thats kinda that? not particularly helpful imo when compared to other options like fire/flying

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good day @undone parrot

undone parrot Nov 13, 2023, 6:47 PM

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gm

brazen oasis Nov 13, 2023, 6:47 PM

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nah i rly like steel

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the calcs are acutall quite big

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ohkoing defensive groundceus and lando

trim cedar Nov 13, 2023, 6:47 PM

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undone parrot You might try OU? It looks OU-legal to me

Yeah everything there is legal aside from Bax

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:18 AM

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https://pokepast.es/532376b857a5696f

lapis atlasBOT Nov 17, 2023, 6:18 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:18 AM

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finite hollow https://pokepast.es/532376b857a5696f

Double baton pass

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:31 AM

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i will be honest @finite hollow baton pass isnt gonna be very successfull theres too many threats that stop it before it rolls out of control

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it can work occasionally but not with the team you have

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manaphy chien pao and gliscor arent the best options there

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:33 AM

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What team works best in the current meta?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:33 AM

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and even with espathra you need sash/protect to outspeed scarf koraidon and maybe kill it in return but even then they can always tera

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-sample-teams-post-home.3727176/

Smogon Forums

Resource - AG Sample Teams [Post-Home]

art by Chloe

Despite having constantly changing metagames with dex updates, the goal of this thread is to provide up to date teams that are simple and easy to pick up while being representative of the strongest parts of the metagame. We will try to actively look at metagame development and new...

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sample teams

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if you wanna check them out

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not the most up to date but should give you an idea

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:34 AM

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I’ll see what’s suitable for me then

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:34 AM

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i mean if you wanna make a baton pass i can help

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:34 AM

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I lean to HO/Balance teams mainly, I just was experimenting with bp more for the fun of it

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:34 AM

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vestal ice i will be honest <@635005677802356746> baton pass isnt gonna be very successfull...

but thats just a disclaimer

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:34 AM

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finite hollow I lean to HO/Balance teams mainly, I just was experimenting with bp more for the...

yeah no doubt its fun if you can make it work

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:35 AM

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Then let’s try to make a bp team, where do we start?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:35 AM

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hm so

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we will build upon your team

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theres a few stuff you could use like quiver dance baton pass from ribombee or some stuff, or smash pass from polteageist or bp from espathra

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you already have espathra but if i were you i would make it tera ghost and try and fit protect somewhere to get more speed in to get 1 calm mind in or just speed and maybe focus sash

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depending on the rest of the team or how you plan to use it overall

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:39 AM

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Would a backup physical bp fit in or do I go in with spatk/atk bp

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I think I can drop sub on esp

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:40 AM

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shell smash can be your physical bp

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oh and the thing with that espathra is whirlwind tinglu blocks you really well

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stuff like tinglu/ekiller are the reason why bp is kinda in shambles

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well maybe hatterene?

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:41 AM

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Could do an ingrain mon to lock in

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:41 AM

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finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:41 AM

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Well shit

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I think I should stick to a standard team

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:42 AM

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well if you want then feel free to

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:43 AM

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I’m assuming Calyrex is a must have in HO

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:43 AM

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well depends

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its very good on every team

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but its also the reason why almost every team can have arceus or tinglu lol

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you can make it without calyrex but its v good to have

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life orb set is glorious on ho

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nasty plot / psychic/astral barrage/grassknot

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:45 AM

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I wouldn’t have expected Ting Lu to be meta shattering with it being OU that was essentially cockblocked by Gliscor

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Why grass knot though

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:46 AM

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252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 255-302 (49.6 - 58.7%) -- 69.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:46 AM

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The fluctuation in bp makes me worry about the consistency

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:46 AM

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finite hollow I wouldn’t have expected Ting Lu to be meta shattering with it being OU that was...

yeah gliscor is unfortunately not as good as in ou due to lots of offensive pressure + many arc forms

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its 120 on almost every relevant mon that it needs to hit with grassknot

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so theres almost no fluctuation

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:47 AM

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That’s reassuring

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Tera type?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:47 AM

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grass/ghost

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i prefer grass

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:48 AM

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Aight, I’ve done the ev spread for now, what good supports/counters are available?

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Ekiller?

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I got an ekiller set from the Ubers rates that uses Expert Belt+Eq tera fairy

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:50 AM

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ekiller is a good counter for opposing calyrex yeah

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i think you can go life orb 3 attacks or boots two attacks

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are you planning to use webs ho or glimmora?

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:51 AM

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vestal ice ekiller is a good counter for opposing calyrex yeah

Wait isn’t Caly ghost type? Wouldn’t that invalidate ekiller?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:51 AM

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i would say webs is better

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it runs shadow claw

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in ag

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:51 AM

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vestal ice are you planning to use webs ho or glimmora?

For my Ubers team I run double leads with ribombee webs and glim strocks

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

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the set is usually like sd/espeed/shadow claw/recover

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

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finite hollow For my Ubers team I run double leads with ribombee webs and glim strocks

i see, i think a single ribombee/glimmora should be good enough

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gives you more attacking options

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

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Ribombee then

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

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sticky web/ moonblast/psychic/ stunspore

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

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vestal ice the set is usually like sd/espeed/shadow claw/recover

Defensive or offensive tera type?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

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psychic is for glimmora

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fire is cool, it resists grassknot + you dont get burned from defensive arceus formes

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steel also resists psychic but thats that

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:54 AM

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So far so good

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Tera ghost for bee sound good?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:55 AM

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yeah its good

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tera steel is good as well

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it blocks glimmora from using mortal spin and removing webs

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but i think you can knock it out anyway with psychic

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:55 AM

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So I can either block rapid spin or mortal spin

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:55 AM

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you can tryout both to see what fits better

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:55 AM

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Yeah I’ll do that

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Zacian crowned for offensive pressure?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:57 AM

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its good yeah

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koraidon/ddance arceus ground are other options

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:57 AM

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So far I’ve realised that my sets from Ubers don’t seem to carry over much

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 6:58 AM

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some do, some dont

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 6:58 AM

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I’ve always had a bit of a speed issue with zacian in Ubers, would trailblaze work well?

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Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Behemoth Blade
Sacred Sword
Swords Dance
Trailblaze

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How’s this

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:00 AM

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im not a big fan of trailblaze, it personally has never worked for me bc of haze toxapex/skeledirge tho it dominates some offenses

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:00 AM

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My Ubers set had wild charge instead

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:01 AM

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the usual set is sd/behemoth/play rough/wild charge

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without play rough you dont ohko miraidon

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:01 AM

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Fair point

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:01 AM

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well

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you could use an unconventional set like sub/sd/tera blast/behemoth blade with tera ground

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but it can be somewhat risky if you wanna ladder

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:02 AM

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I think we should stick to standard sets for now

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:02 AM

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ye thats fair

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:02 AM

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I can experiment later on with players who know what they’re doing, since I’ve been getting matchups with newbies where I can’t really estimate my capabilities

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:03 AM

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yeah no makes sense

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:03 AM

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Should we do a support mon, maybe a defogger/spinner?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:04 AM

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no real spinner in gen9 ag unfortunately

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and if you use a defogger it will remove your webs lol

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:04 AM

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Ah

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I’m gonna guess that Tusk is shit here

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:05 AM

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yeah

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basically due to

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no species clause and calyrex

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:05 AM

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Oh yeah there’s no species clause

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I always forget that

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Any other good supports?

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Any memento/booms that can generate momentum?

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A suicide mon might be viable

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:07 AM

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none really fit on webs

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hm

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you could bring glimmora if you want

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it gives you spin + memento

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:07 AM

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I’d basically be bringing my Ubers team here haha

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:07 AM

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that with an cm arceus form guarantees cleaning of low ladder

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but yeah i'd rather fit 2 offensive mons than giving glimmora a spot

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:08 AM

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What do you recommend then?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:08 AM

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we can always fix it if it needs fixing

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so we have ribombee/arceus/zacian/calyrex right?

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:09 AM

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Yes

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Ogerpon?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:09 AM

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nah

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koraidon is very good

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scale shot flare blitz low kick sd

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:10 AM

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Dice or orb?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:10 AM

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dice

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:10 AM

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Tera dragon?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:11 AM

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fire

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:11 AM

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Last mon

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Maybe a fairy type?

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Wait that’s zacian

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:12 AM

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you could use arceus fairy/ arceus ground

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:12 AM

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Is Valiant mixed booster viable?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:12 AM

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both are v good options

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nah

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arc fairy walls it

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and its pretty prominent

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:12 AM

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Arc ground then

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Don’t I have to put the ground plate to make arceus ground type? Item slot is open on showdown

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Or is that just to change judgement’s type

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:14 AM

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nah you have to put ground plate

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:14 AM

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Ah

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:14 AM

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it wont validate

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:14 AM

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A bit weird innit cause zacian and zamazenta get swapped to their other forms directly

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:14 AM

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yeah true

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:15 AM

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Tera water or grass for defensive?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:15 AM

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fairy is better

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:15 AM

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Aight

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:15 AM

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you resist low kick from koraidon and get immunity to draco meteor

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:15 AM

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Spatk set or phys?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:15 AM

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from miraidon

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i would say spa

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cm / judgment/ice beam/ recover

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oh and btw ribombee should be shield dust

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:16 AM

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Ev spread?

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I have a sash on bee

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:16 AM

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252 hp/252 speed is good 252spa/252 speed if you want more power

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shield dust ability

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:16 AM

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Yup

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Got it, just double checking item

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:16 AM

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ya sash is good

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:17 AM

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I did 252hp, 4+spatk, 252 speed

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Sound good?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:17 AM

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yeah

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well

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252+ speed

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:18 AM

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Not overkill?

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:18 AM

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i mean you could opt for bulkier spread with less speed but 372 is usually safe

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for scarf adamant koraidon

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:18 AM

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Ah

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:18 AM

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which goes at around 369

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:18 AM

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Oddly specific

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Should the ekiller have an orb or something else? Currently expert belt

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:19 AM

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oh scarf adamant is not too uncommon i'd say

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boots

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:19 AM

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vestal ice oh scarf adamant is not too uncommon i'd say

Aight

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I guess we’re done here

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:20 AM

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seems like it

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:20 AM

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https://pokepast.es/689497143872d587

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If it ain’t too inconvenient to review

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:20 AM

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if something doesnt work while you are laddering lmk we could fix again

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nah its not

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moonblast on ribombee it says moongeist beam lol

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you clicked enter too early

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:21 AM

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Oh my bad

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It’s ok on my side though

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:21 AM

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looks good to me

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then its something with the pokepast

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:21 AM

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Ah

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Forgot to validate it too

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Yup it’s good to go

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Thanks for the help

vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:22 AM

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np

finite hollow Nov 17, 2023, 7:23 AM

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Oh and remember how I said I was getting low level players

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This is a bit off topic

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vestal ice Nov 17, 2023, 7:24 AM

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LOL thats mad

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:47 PM

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https://pokepast.es/23307a950df53a04

lapis atlasBOT Nov 17, 2023, 8:47 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:47 PM

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Rate the fit fr fr

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So the idea is simple: first comes the shell guy, who setups harzads and cleans then up with rapid spin

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If needed ofc

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Then comes cinderace who bulks up a bunch then baton passes into tyranitar

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Tyranitar then proceeds to sweep if everything went alright

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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ima be real with you

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this team is entirely unviable

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baton pass is already a gimmick but these mons are all far too weak

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Yeah expected

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:50 PM

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houndstone is gereneally outclassed by basc in rain and even that is niche rn

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:50 PM

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Last respects to clean up

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:50 PM

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ye but basculegion is a better last respects user since it relies on webs agility / rain

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instead of ttar

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:50 PM

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Oh i thought it was a signature move

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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nope

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Am stoopid

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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anyways

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no legends is not gonna wokr

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you're going to need arceus / calyrex-s / koraidon etc

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Dair

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Fair*

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-sample-teams-post-home.3727176/

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Resource - AG Sample Teams [Post-Home]

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play w these for now

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Maybe i should go to another tier

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But i am gonna try those just to study tf makes a good team

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:52 PM

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sure

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gl

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:52 PM

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(And make sure to not mindlessly legend spam)

brazen oasis Nov 17, 2023, 8:53 PM

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well

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legend spam is the only way to play this tier

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to an extent

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anyways ya look at the samples

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 8:57 PM

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There is a difference between legend spam and making strats with legends

winged canyon Nov 17, 2023, 9:03 PM

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When all the viable mons are legendaries there’s no difference

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If you aren’t willing to use a lot of them your team will almost always fall short

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Niche stall teams can drop quite a few but that’s a single playstyle that’s pretty bad rn

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 9:04 PM

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I mean that using legendary MINFLESSLY is bad

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Not just using legendaries

winged canyon Nov 17, 2023, 9:04 PM

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You could do something like the glimmora sample with a few HO leads but in the end almost everything is outclassed by caly arc korai mirai etc

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There’s nothing mindless about it

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You just put good mons on a team

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That’s how all tiers work if you wanna be successful

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 9:04 PM

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And then use actual moves

winged canyon Nov 17, 2023, 9:04 PM

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Ag is just the highest power level

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So all the strongest mons are the ones that win

elder forum Nov 17, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Not just hur dur big power move

winged canyon Nov 17, 2023, 9:05 PM

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What’s the difference

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Those are actual moves

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And if they’re strong they’ll win

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Games aren’t that brainless to actually play

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If clicking koraidon flare blitz or calyrex astral barrage 6 times wins or beats you then one of the teams are bad

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At least some counterplay is required even if they are hard to answer

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Should ideally last over 10 turns vs any threat as a start, then you need actual strategy if you don’t get run over or don’t just run over the opponent

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If you would like to work through a team w viable pokemon we’d be happy to help but ye as taka said things that don’t involve the highest of tier mons in terms of viability don’t really go anywhere

karmic pier Nov 18, 2023, 3:45 PM

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https://pokepast.es/47a15fb05d065d67 Is this team good? How can I improve it?

lapis atlasBOT Nov 18, 2023, 3:45 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

vestal ice Nov 18, 2023, 3:46 PM

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karmic pier https://pokepast.es/47a15fb05d065d67 Is this team good? How can I improve it?

the team seems p good to me

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have you been facing any troubles with any mons?

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we could fix it if theres a particular thing thats troubling the team

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the composition does seem good regardless

finite hollow Nov 20, 2023, 4:24 AM

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https://pokepast.es/5be4e574d3c57f00

lapis atlasBOT Nov 20, 2023, 4:24 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

finite hollow Nov 20, 2023, 4:24 AM

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This team that I’m running works well, but I struggle against hazard stack sometimes

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Anywhere to fit a defog/spin?

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Team was previously made with Frozoid’s help

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 4:26 AM

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finite hollow Anywhere to fit a defog/spin?

no

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on hyper offense you never fit removal

finite hollow Nov 20, 2023, 4:26 AM

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So skill issue?

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 4:26 AM

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if ur struggling vs tspikes then you could try a tera poison groundceus

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but ya the rest isnt really an issue

finite hollow Nov 20, 2023, 4:27 AM

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brazen oasis if ur struggling vs tspikes then you could try a tera poison groundceus

Could work, I’ll try it

finite hollow Nov 20, 2023, 2:07 PM

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finite hollow This team that I’m running works well, but I struggle against hazard stack somet...

How does taunt match up to anti hazards/screens?

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I just experimented with taunt on caly which seems to have worked semi well

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With Caly’s speed I generally outspeed bee

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Which then I can possible pivot counter with my zacian or my own bee

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 3:02 PM

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Ya that’s pretty good

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:03 PM

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i think this goes here?

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uh...here's my weirdass team

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https://pokepast.es/be02550da7c0e2c1

lapis atlasBOT Nov 20, 2023, 5:04 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:05 PM

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IDK if it goes here

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but its my team

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and it might seem a bit odd

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but theres a weird kind of strategy to it

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:08 PM

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brave eagle but theres a weird kind of strategy to it

gonna recomment what fc and i said earlier

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i understand that these mons are cool and you enjoy them but if you want to play in AG, you're not going to have any success without legendaries / legendary spam

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i recommend playing this team in UU/RU

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you will have much more success there

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:09 PM

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brazen oasis i understand that these mons are cool and you enjoy them but if you want to play...

ive been baggin wins though on showdown

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in AG

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swept AG legend teams

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:09 PM

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ye but you're baggin wins from 12 year olds

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:09 PM

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ok thats fair LOL

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:10 PM

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ya i mean

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truth be told

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any of these vs a well played koraidon or miraidon or clayrex

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its just over

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but

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these mons are all pretty solid down in RU

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hippo cyclizar are

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:10 PM

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i just like using weird mons

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:10 PM

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inteleon electrode arb in nu

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arc in uu

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:11 PM

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brave eagle i just like using weird mons

ya thats fair but i cant really help rate it here then

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hope ur enjoying it

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:11 PM

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ok

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so move it to...where

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because shed is banned like in every tier

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except ubers

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wait i could move this to VGC im dumb

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@brazen oasis have a good one

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:13 PM

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brave eagle wait i could move this to VGC im dumb

this team isnt good in vgc either 😭

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but you too homie

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:13 PM

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ive been winning though.

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like suprisingly often

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:14 PM

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with all due respect sometimes ladder, especially lower on, is just bad players using good teams or whatnot

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anything can beat them

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but if you want to improve you gotta adjust to the meta

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:14 PM

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brazen oasis with all due respect sometimes ladder, especially lower on, is just bad players ...

ok thats fair

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like where could get this rated.

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like this is a solo team

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VGC is duos

brazen oasis Nov 20, 2023, 5:25 PM

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brave eagle like where could get this rated.

i think you want to pick a specific thing on the team to focus on

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what mon do u wanna use

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if u wanna use shed tail cyclizar, then bring 5 legendaries with cyclizar on hyper offense in ag

brave eagle Nov 20, 2023, 5:28 PM

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nevermind

uneven obsidian Nov 28, 2023, 9:45 AM

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I played on Gen 9 Anything Goes but I'm not really sure of the mechanics yet, I'm pretty new so I'm trying to pick everything up all at once and I was just wondering if I could have feedback on this? https://pokepast.es/bce6bf2ce38c34fb

I'm pretty sure I've went about it the wrong way BbyBearLaugh It wouldn't surprise me! So some help would be nice!

lapis atlasBOT Nov 28, 2023, 9:45 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

vestal ice Nov 28, 2023, 9:48 AM

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uneven obsidian I played on Gen 9 Anything Goes but I'm not really sure of the mechanics yet, I'...

hey so gotta be honest the only pokemon viable in that team are calyrex and blissey

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the set themselves arent very viable so its kind of a rough spot

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blissey is only used as a wall for special attackers and theres far much better calyrex-s sets

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if you want someplace to start

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viability rankings and sample teams are a good starting point

uneven obsidian Nov 28, 2023, 9:49 AM

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That's fair! I was expecting to make some mistakes aha!

vestal ice Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 AM

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yeah no worries, everyone makes them

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-sample-teams-post-home.3727176/ - samples
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-viability-rankings-update-post-12.3724219/ - vr

Smogon Forums

Resource - AG Sample Teams [Post-Home]

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Despite having constantly changing metagames with dex updates, the goal of this thread is to provide up to date teams that are simple and easy to pick up while being representative of the strongest parts of the metagame. We will try to actively look at metagame development and new...

Smogon Forums

Resource - AG Viability Rankings [Update @ Post #12]

Welcome to the official SV AG Viability Rankings thread. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in AG and what tier they should fall under. Posts in...

uneven obsidian Nov 28, 2023, 9:50 AM

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Thank you so much!

vestal ice Nov 28, 2023, 9:51 AM

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i'd suggest using one of them to ladder a bit, then you can try and build your own team when you have good idea about the metagame

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np!

uneven obsidian Nov 28, 2023, 9:51 AM

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Thanks so much again! I shall try that!

wet grail Dec 8, 2023, 7:57 PM

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https://pokepast.es/884f017a9a6e0b07

lapis atlasBOT Dec 8, 2023, 7:57 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

wet grail Dec 8, 2023, 7:57 PM

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i am very new so i know i did lotswrong oops i forgot to add energy ball on manaphy

winged canyon Dec 8, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Gen 9 ndag doesn’t really exist anymore so I can’t point you to any resources, but none of these pokemon are viable in ag

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ndag in particular when it actually existed required counterplay to so many things it was kinda absurd, but you just can’t beat like caly, most arcs, pdon, necrozma, xerneas etc

wet grail Dec 8, 2023, 8:13 PM

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oki

outer stone Dec 10, 2023, 3:45 AM

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Opinions on my team?
https://pokepast.es/5c55260070b2c1fe

lapis atlasBOT Dec 10, 2023, 3:45 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

brazen oasis Dec 10, 2023, 3:51 AM

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frankly, none of these mons are viable. despite what you see, using top rated pokemon isr eally the only way to build a solid team here

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here are some example teams that give you good inspo

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-sample-teams-post-home.3727176/

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art by Chloe

Despite having constantly changing metagames with dex updates, the goal of this thread is to provide up to date teams that are simple and easy to pick up while being representative of the strongest parts of the metagame. We will try to actively look at metagame development and new...

eager basalt Dec 12, 2023, 9:48 PM

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made a hazards team recently, I've had some success but I'm not sure if it's good enough? Especially with Ribombee. https://pokepast.es/093dfc7440dde87b

lapis atlasBOT Dec 12, 2023, 9:48 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

brazen oasis Dec 12, 2023, 9:51 PM

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eager basalt made a hazards team recently, I've had some success but I'm not sure if it's goo...

truthfully

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meow chomp dengo are not viable in ag

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well

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dengo is potentially usable

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pex and ting lu are reserved for more defensive teams

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if you want webs specifically i suggest looking at HO examples with webs + koraidon + zacian + calyrex-s + arceus

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if you want hazard stack i suggest smth like this https://pokepast.es/617fee95ff604a2f

eager basalt Dec 12, 2023, 9:55 PM

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I see, I'll test out something similar and see how it goes 👍

cyan estuary Dec 14, 2023, 12:36 AM

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Closed for DLC2. Stay tuned for when it reopens!

winged canyon Feb 1, 2024, 3:28 PM

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We are open again!

pastel tulip Feb 2, 2024, 3:21 PM

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FINALLY

trim cedar Feb 2, 2024, 3:22 PM

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winged canyon We are open again!

🔥

pastel tulip Feb 2, 2024, 3:22 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0f1a1ff8cdee7a07

lapis atlasBOT Feb 2, 2024, 3:22 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pastel tulip Feb 2, 2024, 3:22 PM

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Been struggling with this team for a long time now

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Especially with the last slot

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(The one ndm is in rn)

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I just have a really bad time dealing with ditto and opponents NDM

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And I guess ho-oh is kinda annoying too

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Sending zacian-c is like a death sentence for me sometimes as +2 scarfed behemoth blade shreds through everything I have

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 12:14 PM

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https://pokepast.es/85453a2f56a71152

lapis atlasBOT Feb 8, 2024, 12:14 PM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 12:14 PM

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i dont even know anymore

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 12:43 PM

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https://pokepast.es/d036025e19aaedd9

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adjusted a bit

winged canyon Feb 8, 2024, 4:56 PM

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pastel tulip https://pokepast.es/d036025e19aaedd9

I really don’t think stall is good rn or really ever in this tier but if you’re trynna use it then it has to be super specialized. Like as it stands this gets shredded by a bunch of stuff like kyogre and cm gem arcs

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In dlc 1 I believe the main stall that people actually used was mandi bliss alo dozo clod glisc

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Or occasional mixups w stuff like caly gira but to way less success

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Main ideas of stall tho are you need something for knock off hazard spam or you’ll autlose to everything, you super need bliss, you really want regen, and you gotta try your hardest not to lose to caly

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I’d try working off those principles first if you really wanna go stall, bc tbh on a stall I’d probably like only run dozo and ho-oh out of these mons personally

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I could see a use for the rest but they don’t wall things as hard as you’d like from an ag full stall

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 5:09 PM

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winged canyon I could see a use for the rest but they don’t wall things as hard as you’d like ...

ye i noticed that as well. i just went with stall because its my other main playstyle, but whats a consistent playstyle that doesn't get cheesed as much as ho does?

winged canyon Feb 8, 2024, 5:11 PM

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The most common teams will almost always be BO or balance in any meta

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And I think it should be the same from current ag

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 5:11 PM

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winged canyon The most common teams will almost always be BO or balance in any meta

whats a structure you'd recommend for me

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err something that deals with ladder shenanigans

winged canyon Feb 8, 2024, 5:12 PM

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I don’t know how you prefer to play so I’d say just try to use whatever’s most comfortable

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Ladder players usually lose to stall a lot

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It’s way better there than in tours

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But if you wanted to just use some consistent balance it’d be more than fine too

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If you just prep for ho mons

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 5:14 PM

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winged canyon Ladder players usually lose to stall a lot

hm alright , yeah i noticed they choke vs stall a lot like they notice their button clickers no longer 1hko everything so they try stuff without a gameplan

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ig ill try building on the current stall i have, ty

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keeping ditto on there a good idea?

winged canyon Feb 8, 2024, 5:16 PM

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It’s really hard to fit

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You maybe can but it doesn’t have longevity or a defensive profile

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It just stops you from losing for a bit

pastel tulip Feb 8, 2024, 5:19 PM

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winged canyon Main ideas of stall tho are you need something for knock off hazard spam or you’...

how do i deal with hstack stall btw

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ive been seeing some gliscor with like tect knock spikes tspikes

winged canyon Feb 8, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Opposing stall mu is rare but you kinda just have to have either your own gliscor, a clef, or like a reliable defogger and some regen pivots

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In hard stall vs hard stall you don’t really take damage so you kinda just need 2-3 mons who can pivot around

zenith torrent Feb 10, 2024, 2:14 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d4e9daa765ca6f19

lapis atlasBOT Feb 10, 2024, 2:14 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

winged canyon Feb 10, 2024, 2:36 AM

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ndag doesn’t exist anymore so there’s not gonna be any real quality rating for it

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Gut says unviable because ndm 6-0’s and it has no good defensive mons or tera types

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But there’s no meta to this

zenith torrent Feb 10, 2024, 5:07 AM

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winged canyon Gut says unviable because ndm 6-0’s and it has no good defensive mons or tera ty...

The tourney I’m doing with this team doesn’t allow tera

zenith torrent Feb 10, 2024, 5:07 AM

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winged canyon Gut says unviable because ndm 6-0’s and it has no good defensive mons or tera ty...

Also, what is ndm?

winged canyon Feb 10, 2024, 5:15 AM

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zenith torrent Also, what is ndm?

Necrozma dusk mane

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But we don’t rate anything with arbitrary rulings here

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Ndag already doesn’t exist and without tera the format super doesn’t exist

amber spindle Feb 13, 2024, 12:09 PM

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how good would a full team of level 100 blisseys be with max HP iv that have nature's madness or is that for hackmons?

pastel tulip Feb 13, 2024, 3:03 PM

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amber spindle how good would a full team of level 100 blisseys be with max HP iv that have nat...

yes that is for hackmons
that wouldnt even change anything natures madness just halves their hp its not dependent on the users hp

amber spindle Feb 13, 2024, 3:04 PM

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pastel tulip 1. yes that is for hackmons 2. that wouldnt even change anything natures madness...

ok thanks

torpid saffron Feb 15, 2024, 3:16 PM

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Mimikyu @ Life Orb
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

Swords Dance
Shadow Claw
Play Rough
Shadow Sneak

Rayquaza @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

Dragon Ascent
Dragon Dance
Extreme Speed
V-create

Pincurchin @ Terrain Extender
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature

Rising Voltage
Electric Terrain
Memento
Spikes

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

Spikes
Knock Off
Leech Seed
Power Whip

Zapdos @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Static
EVs: 248 HP / 220 Def / 40 Spe
Timid Nature

Discharge
Hurricane
Roost
Defog

Turtonator @ White Herb
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

Shell Smash
Fire Blast
Draco Meteor
Flash Cannon

pastel tulip Feb 16, 2024, 5:43 AM

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torpid saffron Mimikyu @ Life Orb Ability: Disguise EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe Adamant Natu...

unviable

hot oriole Feb 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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https://pokepast.es/ae646b7b18958381
I’m not trynna use legendary/mythic pokemon
I’m still a beginner and could use some advice, got any good utility pokemon I could use for my setup?

lapis atlasBOT Feb 17, 2024, 7:11 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

vestal ice Feb 17, 2024, 7:12 AM

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hm well

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ag IS legendary/mythical pokemon

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you can make a team but it wont be viable at all

hot oriole Feb 17, 2024, 7:12 AM

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Oh, I didn’t know that

vestal ice Feb 17, 2024, 7:13 AM

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maybe your team can go in natdex?

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idk

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seems to me like a natdex ou viable team

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so maybe people there would be able to help!

hot oriole Feb 17, 2024, 7:13 AM

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Alright thank you

finite pecan Feb 21, 2024, 6:07 AM

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https://pokepast.es/dac9c7aded960dc1
This team actually won 2 or 3 battles

lapis atlasBOT Feb 21, 2024, 6:07 AM

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New AG RMT @winged canyon, @vestal ice, @brazen oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

vestal ice Feb 21, 2024, 6:08 AM

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yeah but im sure it will ONLY win 2 or 3 battles

pastel tulip Feb 21, 2024, 6:08 AM

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finite pecan https://pokepast.es/dac9c7aded960dc1 This team actually won 2 or 3 battles

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why post to ag rmt 😭

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like no way u think its a viable team that can be improved upon so why

finite pecan Feb 21, 2024, 6:09 AM

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Because its kinda viable imo

pastel tulip Feb 21, 2024, 6:10 AM

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no thats five lokix

vestal ice Feb 21, 2024, 6:23 AM

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finite pecan Because its kinda viable imo

its not viable

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if you want, i could link the viability rankings to you

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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-viability-rankings-update-post-17.3724219/

Smogon Forums

Resource - AG Viability Rankings [Update @ Post #17]

Welcome to the official SV AG Viability Rankings thread. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking every single usable Pokemon into "tiers." You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in AG and what tier they should fall under. Posts in...

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check them out, maybe they help

#Anything Goes Rates