And chomp could always be Z
#Old Gens OU
rugged fossil
rugged fossil
I like torn cuz of the stall mu
rugged fossil
Would go ferro as well
Already have spikes in gren
naive stump
This
naive stump
Could go AV lele maybe since zam MU looks kinda meh
rugged fossil
Could go AV lele maybe since zam MU looks kinda meh
Wanna know something funnily disastrous
For the team
naive stump
Sure
quartz remnant
Fix ur sets bro
whhich ones? also scale shot for outrage on garch?
quartz remnant
Could go AV lele maybe since zam MU looks kinda meh
old gen is so confusing when i read this i thought you meant zamazenta but then i realised its gen 7
quartz remnant
Could go AV lele maybe since zam MU looks kinda meh
what do you suggest
specs or av
naive stump
Test it by youself
quartz remnant
okay
crystal yacht
Specs lele is better for stall or you can go av lele with nature madness
quartz remnant
Specs lele is better for stall or you can go av lele with nature madness
true
crystal yacht
You get the spdef boost and can somewhat beat stall
quartz remnant
i think my stall mu is pretty decent on this team tho
crystal yacht
Run modest with av
quartz remnant
also, madness for what move?
crystal yacht
i think my stall mu is pretty decent on this team tho
You would’ve surprised how good mega sableye is against balances
quartz remnant
psyshock?
quartz remnant
You would’ve surprised how good mega sableye is against balances
its annoying as fuck but its knock off hits hard for some reason
crystal yacht
Psyshock moonblast hp fire nature madness
quartz remnant
Psyshock moonblast hp fire nature madness
no psychic? isnt that lele's most spammable move
naive stump
You would’ve surprised how good mega sableye is against balances
It's more of an offensive build but it's with msharp, so it's kinda a pain to help
rustic heron
If anyone wants to look at my gen 3 ou team id really appreciate it. This team plays to skarmorys strengths and has light screen support to make it safer vs mag
https://pokepast.es/c60f33c7cc2eb479
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crystal yacht
no psychic? isnt that lele's most spammable move
Psyshock is better over psychic if not specs it hits chansey
quartz remnant
okay
naive stump
Legit, each time I saw a replay with msharp, that poke do nothing the whole match
crystal yacht
It's more of an offensive build but it's with msharp, so it's kinda a pain to he...
Mega sharp barely helps any team
quartz remnant
Legit, each time I saw a replay with msharp, that poke do nothing the whole matc...
thats why we should run destiny bond!
crystal yacht
That’s even worse
naive stump
Mega sharp barely helps any team
Yh
Ada crunch has some funny calcs but eh
Not really worth the mega slot
quartz remnant
i saw someone cook up pgen 6 with it and it looked really fun
totally different generations but still a cool mon
@naive stump also, should i use scale shot garchomp or outrage
naive stump
https://pokepast.es/fd7e9e4f0d23ff2e
Yh, the team feels kinda random
If I follow the title, u wanted to go for some grass fire water core
But it's usually not a good idea to start building with only a defensive core since it does no give you a clear direction to follow
This team keep the double winco idea of reu + glis
But the support makes more sense
elfin reef
But the support makes more sense
tysm for ur help
elfin reef
but isnt this lacking in speed
and it definitely struggles to break steels
like ferro
naive stump
Yh, I'm not sold on that team as well
U get obviously some terrible MU like Tapu Lele
The only way to introduce speed in that team would be to put a torn over something
But u are losing the hazards stacks + pursuit + triple winco idea
Up to you again
naive stump
like ferro
I think this part is fine tho
Spikes is good at weakening steel
And u can pressure them with reu/bulu/ttar
naive stump
If u feel like ferro is really an issue, u can make this pex trapper with infestation and/or spite
Again, losing t-spikes would be annoying but it's something to consider if u want
elfin reef
oki
naive stump
got any suggestions?
Imo
If u want try to build with bulu
U really need to be aware that gterrain is the whole point of the team
So, u need to abuse it pretty hard
To not let ur oppo abuse more gterrain than you
Heatran was a good idea
But u need to put even more way to abuse it
(while having a good overall structure ofc)
Some common mega abuser that u can use as a start are charizard-mega-x, mawile-mega or tyranitar-mega
And u have obvious other strong abusers such as Kartana or Heatran
elfin reef
ooh
naive stump
If u still want to keep that fire water grass core
Tran bulu is good
But for the water, I believe either Toxapex or Rotom makes more sense overall
elfin reef
how abt mawile bulu
naive stump
Yh, it's a good core
elfin reef
what goes well with it
elfin reef
oh
naive stump
Landorus-therian + rotom-wash for example
naive stump
Well, it's up to you lol
elfin reef
oh
naive stump
Just try to cook something on your side and u can ask for a rating once it's done
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elfin reef
hows this one
naive stump
https://pokepast.es/3e29fcbf1ae373c0
AV on bulu is really not a terrible item imo
I think u would prefer lefto and use SD here
Horn leech SD protect superpower/stone edge looks fine
The rest looks fine
Could try prot gren over ash gren, but both option are cool enough
naive stump
Np
ivory yarrow
ADV wondering if my pert could use changing or if my team could use some modernizing https://pokepast.es/1ba539cf4660d105
thin carbon
https://pokepast.es/f47e0cb4d23a2683
Should I replace Clefable for anything else or do I need to adjust its role for the team that is?
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silent edge
Is this fat balance too slow? https://pokepast.es/d57bff4e66618d69
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naive stump
https://pokepast.es/f47e0cb4d23a2683
Should I replace Clefable for anything els...
There's some good idea but the structure feels ankward at the end
Volcarona is rarely the poke u can put in BO/balance without a diancie-mega or several defog user
This is some old ass squad but it keep the core of celes mvenu with ash gren
But the structure is more well-rounded overall
Tapu Fini is a way better pick than clef here since it provide a stronger fire resist + better support + still keep that fairy-type
Not to say u dont suffer from t-spikes pex since mvenu is a poison-type
Also, instead of just ashgren + that slow core of LO clef + QD volc, SD chomp + spikes gren is quite a classic but efficient core in this kind of BO
Both provide hazards and they pressure each other checks
Lando is scarf here for speed control, act as a cleaner and round-up the team against certain threats such as Medicham-mega
naive stump
Is this fat balance too slow? https://pokepast.es/d57bff4e66618d69
This is actually kinda close to an old spl squad
Maw + the volt turn core of glis and rotom is a good idea
The double defog is not super useful
And that gren set is kinda not it
Could keep it and put spikes on it
Then remove the skarm for something else
Or just use the squad I sent
It's a bit old but surely fonctionnal enough
silent edge
Specs gren could work with skarm being replaced for speed control.
naive stump
I think it's gren + maw is good enough for speed control
It's a balance with chansey, so ur backbone is solid enough to lets you slow down ur speed control
silent edge
Gotcha
Hmmm unaware clef could replace skarm
Beats set up mons like opposing mawile and hawlucha while providing set up and wish for sustain.
thin carbon
https://pokepast.es/29d552bdbb61f600
I like the team there. And WOW those nicknames are BASED. I immediately got hooked when I saw Soft And Wet; Prince's first album ever released.
I wouldn't mind about type repeats though?
I main Balance so that's why I asked.
thin carbon
Wait no. Jojo's Bizarre Adventures.
naive stump
I wouldn't mind about type repeats though?
Yh, no worry about that
naive stump
Beats set up mons like opposing mawile and hawlucha while providing set up and w...
Unaware does not beat at all mawile since play rough hit way too hard for that
In general, unaware clef is more stall stuff in sm
I think ur fine if u just play the team I posted
thin carbon
Yh, no worry about that
As long as I don't compound any type disadvantages?
naive stump
It's more that it does not matter that much in the end
Esp that, if u look at the type repetition, they dont share that many weakness
For example, lando + garchomp, chomp does not stack water weakness
They both are neutral on grass type
And u already cover the ice weakness with fini
Competitive pokemon is more than typing fortunately
Like, fini and gren have different roles
So the typing is not even relevant
Since gren will mainly serve as a breaker with spikes
While fini is here to check other water and fire + provide defog + misty terrain to support ur own chomp and gren
thin carbon
That's one way to learn it.
But wow yes I really like the Ash-Greninja and Mega-Saur kind of core tbh
Or I can do something like Protean Greninja, Chlorophyll Venusaur, and then ZardY
So what matters is the Support and Synergy other than typing yes?
thin carbon
Unaware does not beat at all mawile since play rough hit way too hard for that
As far as I'm concerned Huge/Pure Power soft checks, if not, hard checks Unaware mons.
naive stump
Or I can do something like Protean Greninja, Chlorophyll Venusaur, and then Zard...
Sun is funny but I would not do that with zardy + venusaur
thin carbon
Despite Chlorophyll though?
naive stump
Since zardy already force a bunch of specific support by itself
thin carbon
Ah oke
thin carbon
What I really like about Gen. 7 is that a lot of Support is involved
And wow look at that team though
I am definitely testing that fr
And why Scarf on Landorus-T by the way? It's extremely common other than Rocky Helmet.
thin carbon
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thin carbon
So I made this one out of boredom.
thin carbon
https://pokepast.es/3ce567f869628812
Tested it and a shit ton of stuff that did not work at all.
quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/d9cf37c221ad5196
thoughtss?
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tender coral
https://pokepast.es/d9cf37c221ad5196
thoughtss?
you probably want a rocker instead of Weavile here
CB is good but saps momentum on HO
quartz remnant
you probably want a rocker instead of Weavile here
oh okay
any recommendations?
i wanted a dark type to resist the ghost/dark moves that hit polt and tapu
tender coral
any recommendations?
Lando is always the easy solution on these structures, but the interesting thing is that I might prefer a bulky set
tender coral
i wanted a dark type to resist the ghost/dark moves that hit polt and tapu
you do have AV Melmetal
dark is more difficult, but not unmanageable with Rotom helping out against Weavile (make it physically defensive)
quartz remnant
you do have AV Melmetal
thats true, it gets decimated by specs blace tho
tender coral
thats true, it gets decimated by specs blace tho
tbf clown obliterates Weavile too
quartz remnant
tbf clown obliterates Weavile too
yeah lol
so should i slap lando and call it a day?
i could remove tom then
since its defog thing isnt needed anymore
maybe run ursh for it?
tender coral
so should i slap lando and call it a day?
yeah I think Lando is a must here
Rotom can just run something like wisp + pain split/another status move
defog feels a bit weird here since your defence against hazards is to run through setters
quartz remnant
i could just replace rotom tho, since its kind of a HO type build
tender coral
I mean what are you replacing it with
quartz remnant
I mean what are you replacing it with
like urshifu or smth?
quartz remnant
scarf Lele + pads Urshifu feels pretty good here
okay
quartz remnant
jet/taunt is up to you, depends on how comfortable you are against BKC
okay
low jasper
okay
Make sure you fix teapot and lucha sets. Giga drain > sap so you don’t get completely stuffed by like Ttar for example. And lucha gets close combat in gen 8 so use that over high jump kick
quartz remnant
Make sure you fix teapot and lucha sets. Giga drain > sap so you don’t get compl...
okay, strenth sap seemed cool to beat defensive lando tho
low jasper
You could fittle around with it but but if you manage to setup you rip lando to shreds anyways and if Ttar is chipped down you..or at least have a fighting chance vs it if you set up
next cedar
Hello, I reached 1705elo with my Gen 3 OU 3 choice bands team and would love some feedback. Please let me know if this is not the correct way to post. https://pokepast.es/29e1789637a78004
shell ridge
Hello, I reached 1705elo with my Gen 3 OU 3 choice bands team and would love som...
Idk jackshit about gen 3 ou
But 3 choice
upper plume
You look like you're in trouble when Starmie enters the field
tall wedge
Starmie
upper plume
people run hp bug?
Before Gen 4, moves were physical or special depending on the type of the move
This includes Hidden Power
Hidden Power Bug is Tyranitar's hardest hit on Celebi while also hitting Claydol
vivid kraken
Hello, I reached 1705elo with my Gen 3 OU 3 choice bands team and would love som...
i think it lack cohesion
usually u sacrifice spikes for something different that fits another role
example mence on a mixoff
but ur like stacking cb mons and then u have claydol here
which claydol isnt rlly needed here because fwiw does not really enable an offensive approach
which aero and cbtar cb meta need
aggressive play rewards those
dull ether
https://pokepast.es/98a46bf8f823890b Gen 6 OU any improvements? The offensive core works fine but im wondering about the defensive core
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next cedar
but ur like stacking cb mons and then u have claydol here
That makes sense. Claydol got added cause I was losing some games to stally spikes teams so wanted a spinner, and Claydol is another rock resist. Any suggestions what to replace it with?
next cedar
You look like you're in trouble when Starmie enters the field
Offense Starmie is pretty scary, but any amount of chip and it goes down to Aero so it hasn't been too big an issue. Something I def should consider though
winter oyster
So lemme preface this by saying I'm an absolute new born baby when it comes to competitive. Like. I've been doing competitive for maybe a week now. Only played gen 8 ou so far and this is the team I roll with currently. I've found mild success but I'd like to balance things as best I can but I feel like I got an OK set for setting up sweepers
https://pokepast.es/2c4238bfb687b43d
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tender coral
So lemme preface this by saying I'm an absolute new born baby when it comes to c...
would highly recommend you to look at the Smogon Dex for information about how Pokemon are used in the tier!
as for the team, I think you benefit from icy rock on Ninetales more since you have an Arctozolt (also make it leftovers, it helps with setting up more substitutes so you don't need to predict as much)
think that I'd change Mandi into Torn, Clef into Volcanion and Pex into Ferro
gives you a better defogger that also provides the team with speed outside of hail and more synergistic offensive/defensive mons
winter oyster
Torn as in tornadus right?
tender coral
yes, therian forme
change the Garchomp to a specially defensive set with stealth rock
you want pain split on Ninetales for it to stick around longer
winter oyster
Goooootcha alright, thanks for the recs!!! I will definitely look into all of those and come back to check their stats/moveset
vivid kraken
That makes sense. Claydol got added cause I was losing some games to stally spik...
to do that i would probably rework the team a bit first
because i dont rlly like 3 cb users all in one team
i think you should build around 1, maybe 2?
next cedar
i think you should build around 1, maybe 2?
i'd just build a new team at that point, 3 big bands was the whole build around idea
vivid kraken
hmm
dont scrap it because of what i said
@polar nacelle what do you think
adv pro
vivid kraken
Hello, I reached 1705elo with my Gen 3 OU 3 choice bands team and would love som...
this here vapi
polar nacelle
It’s actually not too bad
next cedar
thank you! using 3 choice bands is obv limiting, but i wanted to see how good of a team i could make with them. the claydol slot is definitely the most shaky feeling, but the role compression of rock resist+spin +explosion has been doing me well
winter oyster
you want pain split on Ninetales for it to stick around longer
So here's what I got now
https://pokepast.es/2c4238bfb687b43d
Oop
tender coral
https://pokepast.es/d3c78013a9cbd0c6
you want freeze-dry on Ninetales because of how it hits water types
leftovers and protect instead of roar on Chomp
Ferro wants to be impish here to handle Weavile
winter oyster
Think heal bell would be a good trade off for freeze dry?
tender coral
also run earth power instead of defog on Volcanion, you need it for Pex
tender coral
Think heal bell would be a good trade off for freeze dry?
could work
winter oyster
Ok cool I feel pretty confident now. Gonna go test it out
thin carbon
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thin carbon
https://pokepast.es/840b1596fab0c1b7
I played a few games with this team and it's quite working. But is there anything I can do to make this team a little bit better or am I good for now?
hollow osprey
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hollow osprey
hi guys can anyone help me pls
its the first time i make a team by myself
so its not that great
hope u can help me fix it
oh btw the team cant have more than 4 OU and i have to keep empoleon
timber lance
oh btw the team cant have more than 4 OU and i have to keep empoleon
in that case they can't rly help you tho
timber lance
cause we don't rate teams with arbitrary restrictions
gritty scaffold
oh btw the team cant have more than 4 OU and i have to keep empoleon
We dont rate teams with arbitrary rules also this team looks horrible everything looks so random id recommend look at sample teams
hollow osprey
We dont rate teams with arbitrary rules also this team looks horrible everything...
ight ty
quartz remnant
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quartz remnant
is this correct
rugged fossil
No
This isnt the exact mc meghan squad
His squad had
Scarf koko
And sets are wrong adwell
So are the ev spreads and nature on the mons
Maybe diyusi has the paste
quartz remnant
And sets are wrong adwell
i tried to be pretty accurate with the sets
quartz remnant
So are the ev spreads and nature on the mons
not sure about these tho
inner mist
https://pokepast.es/d03918e33ea95c50
Are you new to the tier?
In that case just start with samples and try building when you are more familair with the tier
quartz remnant
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hollow osprey
In that case just start with samples and try building when you are more familair...
ye thats what i did 😭
wheat summit
can anyone help?
vivid kraken
https://pokepast.es/7e811826673b8917
just use kart > gren
z on lando
and spoon/specs lele
prob want wisp on that rotom too
over pain split
tawny marsh
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low jasper
https://pokepast.es/3325a77e4f1caf14
As much as I love some of these mons on this team this team has no synergy plus there are a couple mons here which are no viable in ss ou metagame at all. Also some of the sets are questionable as well. I would highly suggest you check some of the samples and also the viability rankings to help you develop a more comprehensive understanding of the metagame.
winter oyster
So this is the crew I run with. Been doing gen 8 ou cause I haven't played SV yet. I've been doing pretty dang good with this team but one counter I have extreme issues with is Tapu lele. Any suggestions for coverage moves/any switch ins I could do to help? I'm pretty stumped. I know knock-off can do some damage but it seems like Torn-T dies before tapu lele most times.
https://pokepast.es/4990961b7a486455
quartz remnant
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ss-ou-dlc2-viability-ranking-thread-see-pa...
theres a more recent one, no?
quartz remnant
just use kart > gren
what about the dark type / ghost type resists gren provides?
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quartz remnant
this??
heady cloak
Is this a good gen 3 (remake) team?
Sceptile
Gardevoir
Breloom
Aggron
Garchomp
Sharpedo
upper plume
Gen 3 remake as in Gen 3 OU or ORAS OU?
Actually this team would be bad in both OU tiers
upper plume
Chomp is like the one Mega that doesn't want to
candid prairie
As much as I love some of these mons on this team this team has no synergy plus ...
ngl im like 99999% sure this is like an old vgc team
like 2015 era
vivid kraken
what about the dark type / ghost type resists gren provides?
gren is not meant to be a defensive tool
ghost resist kinda irrelevant and mage is a dark resist
low jasper
ngl im like 99999% sure this is like an old vgc team
Ooop thanks for seeing that out if it’s true 💀
tender coral
So this is the crew I run with. Been doing gen 8 ou cause I haven't played SV ye...
would recommend changing Garchomp into specially defensive defog Landorus so Tornadus can run an assault vest here (the extra power of hurricane makes it worth running btw, air slash is just weird)
also drop spikes for knock off/body press/power whip on Ferro, your current set is pretty passive (make Ferro more physically defensive since it now has Torn to take hits from Lele and Pult)
don't run body press on Volcanion, run sludge wave or toxic depending on what you want to target (toxic annoys Gastrodon while sludge wave is fantastic against Tapu Fini)
as for Arctozolt, just use the Smogon set
it's by far the best one in general
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wheat summit
https://pokepast.es/d442d3db0499ef3e gen 7 ou
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quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/18045dc5bf658ad9
are the sets correct
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low jasper
Blaziken @ Leftovers
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Protect
Run this blaziken
Super power > eq on melm
low jasper
It’s a smogon set but I forgot what it does 💀 I do remember this same set being ran on teams like this
low jasper
W
quartz remnant
this isnt even my team lol
i just like to steal teams
this is from a game of empo vs vert
i dont have the pokepast so i make the sets myself
and they usually have some errors which is why i post it here
tender coral
https://pokepast.es/18045dc5bf658ad9
are the sets correct
probably not, I think Empo was using a fast Lando there but I'm not sure how fast
I'll try contacting him for the team
quartz remnant
I'll try contacting him for the team
thank you so much
wheat summit
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stiff sail
https://pokepast.es/8892b1005275b28a @icy linden this is my team for adv ou… provided I grabbed the right one that is
cool I did
icy linden
https://pokepast.es/8892b1005275b28a <@148797384577646592> this is my team for a...
Looks like a good team probably some specific stuff it will struggle against though like blaziken
Bur hope you don't face that since it ain't common
stiff sail
I mean blaziken isnt exactly commonplace so its not too bad
Its not like speed boost is on it yet
I wish my bird could have drill peck but I needed hp ice
to fend off a particular threat to my team
stiff sail
yeah, though I can handle breloom with hp ice at least
hariyama would be rough, yeah, its given me trouble in the past
icy linden
Yh loom is scared alot of zap
stiff sail
hp ice is more for a certain dragon though
my team is scared of brick break mance, so I swapped the hp variant on dos for that purpose
icy linden
Just the nature of the team if you could fit like gengar wouldn't be too bad
Or starmie
stiff sail
I tried gengar but too frail for what I need
icy linden
Were you running defensive evs though
stiff sail
Well I need a spiker and I dont wanna use skarm because of the prevalence of electric types on ladder these days
I wanted a really really tanky option who could spike and spin
And possibly live a single hp fire if need be
icy linden
Yh forretress is good and bulky
stiff sail
I chose it because meta is too toxic to skarm right now
at least at my part of the ladder
icy linden
New gen adv players are using stuff that beats the old standard stuff
Meta is ever expanding
stiff sail
Yeah and this new gen adv player is using an old gen strat of using forrtress a lot to deal with new meta
well new gen as a competitior
icy linden
Even when I first played adv ou 5 years ago no one was using hariyama
stiff sail
I am as old to the series as crystal
icy linden
Now it's ou proper
stiff sail
yeah, same for zard, zard was once not even really considered
icy linden
All this adv talk makes me want to get back into it with this newer mindset
I've also gotten better at mons overall
So I would do better
stiff sail
yeah my exp finally learning rivals of aether and then battle network 6 right after reinvigorated my confidence, and it came from me gaining a better mindset, so I’m willing to try again
stiff sail
@icy linden so after matches today I realized some issues with my team
namely that forrtress isnt really all that helpful
I might actually replace with starmie
Nothing my forrtress provided was particularly threatening, I’ll change the setup on one version to have eq over toxic, but I’ll make a second team that has a starmie build, I think starmie’s speed control is exactly what the team needs though, same for its bulk
quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/613d338f4a357324
okay hows this team
im testing my ss teambuilding and i saw blimax saying that lele clicks was great
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low jasper
https://pokepast.es/613d338f4a357324
okay hows this team
im testing my ss teambu...
Not bad but this needs a water resistance you currently lose to rain and you are very weak to volcarona
Rocks tran > melm cause you need rocks helps a ton into Volc
Weavile can be like a dragonite instead
quartz remnant
ok ty
low jasper
(Dragonite is also good into kart which you are also weak too)
quartz remnant
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quartz remnant
wanted to build nidoking lele cuz they both are really fun
low jasper
Ok so first run future sight > psychic on lele
low jasper
Ferro > melm as much as I like melm you need a another water resist here
quartz remnant
Ferro > melm as much as I like melm you need a another water resist here
probably not
im very extremely weak to fire
as is
and a ferro would add to that
- im running melmetal for the twave spam
wanton current
+ im running melmetal for the twave spam
ferro also has twave
quartz remnant
to give nido a better chance
low jasper
Weavile can be band urshifu instead
quartz remnant
ferro also has twave
o
quartz remnant
Weavile can be band urshifu instead
ghost/dark weakness?
low jasper
👍🏾
low jasper
Lack of Ghost resist is a common trope in ss unless you run ttar or hydra. Melm tran ferro and spdef lando are the pseudo ghost answers + rocks
quartz remnant
Lack of Ghost resist is a common trope in ss unless you run ttar or hydra. Melm ...
hmm ok, what about fire? urshifu?
low jasper
The main fire you will try to answer is heatran which spdef lando and urshifu will cover nicely.
Pult twaves Volcarona
quartz remnant
okay
low jasper
Blace you need to get up rocks as quick as you can
quartz remnant
🔥 ty
tender coral
https://pokepast.es/62195c1f45685e49
I'd probably make the following changes:
1. Nidoking -> Rotom-W
2. Weavile -> Buzzwole
3. Melmetal -> rocks Heatran
4. Lando-T -> defog + knock off
5. Dragapult -> specs
quartz remnant
I'd probably make the following changes:
1\. Nidoking -> Rotom-W
2\. Weavile -> ...
i want to use nidoking 😔
nidoking lele
tender coral
i want to use nidoking 😔
could be something like Nidoking/scarf Lele/pads or CB Urshifu/Torn/Heatran/Rotom-W
quartz remnant
could be something like Nidoking/scarf Lele/pads or CB Urshifu/Torn/Heatran/Roto...
yeah okay, ty
i wanted to run a type of twave spam
to make sure nido could KO
mons
wanton current
I'd probably make the following changes:
1\. Nidoking -> Rotom-W
2\. Weavile -> ...
isn't that kind of a different team tho
it seems like a lot of changes haha
tender coral
i wanted to run a type of twave spam
this just gets steamrolled by stall
tender coral
Nidoking inherently sucks into stall because of Gastro and Blissey, so you want stuff that helps it out in those matchups instead of being limp in them too
tender coral
isnt nido and lele like
specs Lele yes
wanton current
nido doesn't to shit to blissey
tender coral
not so much for scarf
tender coral
isn't that kind of a different team tho
yeah the original isn't that great unfortunately 
wanton current
fair enough
quartz remnant
yeah the original isn't that great unfortunately <:sad_dawn:937844930380959895>
its all good man i just wanted lele and nido :O
https://pokepast.es/606043f9198b4a98
this then @tender coral @low jasper
low jasper
Oh ye this much better
tender coral
https://pokepast.es/606043f9198b4a98
this then <@1053618504810643527> <@70432545...
run specially defensive Heatran and physically defensive Rotom
Weavile isn't that dire of a matchup for you to be running flame body Heatran here
neither is Melm FWIW
low jasper
Actually since it’s physically defense wisp might be better
tender coral
Actually since it’s physically defense wisp might be better
yeah it should run wisp
quartz remnant
okay
tender coral
also run future sight instead of psychic on Lele
quartz remnant
Actually since it’s physically defense wisp might be better
wisp for what?
quartz remnant
bet ty
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sharp drum
gen 6 OU stall team, cant find to find a valid hazard remover that suits this team very well and Im not sure if amoongus works with quagsire and I want to keep the chansey skarm core
https://pokepast.es/bc6a666f54b7d090
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upper plume
gen 6 OU stall team, cant find to find a valid hazard remover that suits this te...
yeah we don't really have many ORAS raters
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upper plume
if you go to the ORAS Discord ^ then you can talk with other ORAS people who know the tier well and can help you with your team
sharp drum
if you go to the ORAS Discord ^ then you can talk with other ORAS people who kno...
ok ty
upper plume
Scrap
low jasper
^
candid prairie
is chatot down
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vivid kraken
low jasper
ss ou https://pokepast.es/a6b896e8c5327053
Ngl just make the blace specs too
Overheat > taunt
Make tran rocks over flash
low jasper
This is p weak to weavile so make slowbro colbur press bro
Chomp can be swords dance scale shot with left overs
wanton current
it would be cool if there was a mon that resisted ice and had rough skin/barbs
it would be a really cool triple axel switch in
wanton current
i mean togedemaru exists
low jasper
Actually
wanton current
but that mon isn't good
also isn't that bulky
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Triple Axel (120 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Togedemaru: 133-158 (39.8 - 47.3%) -- approx. 3HKO
ye this sucks
low jasper
Welp
wanton current
you can probably use ferrothorn for this
it isn't resistant to ice but it' not weak to it
and the mon is really bulky
wanton current
true
252 Atk Choice Band Weavile Triple Axel (120 BP) (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 167-199 (47.4 - 56.5%) -- approx. 26.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
this is pretty similar
vivid kraken
This is p weak to weavile so make slowbro colbur press bro
press?
over what
maybe this
idk where to slot press tho
and specs blace ofc
low jasper
idk where to slot press tho
Make it standard bro
low jasper
Yuh
I feel
Weavile > pult
Might be better
Helps chomp matchup and ghost matchup
vivid kraken
Weavile > pult
ic
any advice on ferro spread/set too?
i picked that cuz i play sm
lol
and wevaile would be
uh
4a boots?
thats what ive noticed
low jasper
4a boots?
Swords dance boots
Also use the spread for ferro in swords and shield
It’s there
On smogon
vivid kraken
Also use the spread for ferro in swords and shield
ok it says max hp max def
feels off to me but what do i know xd
so this?
low jasper
Yeah chomp should be fire fang > sub
vivid kraken
Yeah chomp should be fire fang > sub
Ic
alr
thank you
and is there a time limit between i can send teams?
low jasper
Nah
karmic geyserBOT
low jasper
is this good?
Not bad but tran should just be more specially defensive with lefties
vivid kraken
Not bad but tran should just be more specially defensive with lefties
ic
max hp max spdef?
flash fire
low jasper
Kart I feel could be like a glowking
low jasper
max hp max spdef?
Ye
vivid kraken
Kart I feel could be like a glowking
ic
i was also thinking using av on one of rila or melm
and when you say glowking maybe sludge trick?
low jasper
Rilla fine I think the set in melm is fine too
low jasper
Yeah give pult flamethrower > hex
You can probly even do thunder bolt
Other than that this good hf
vivid kraken
Yeah give pult flamethrower > hex
ok
and i put psyshock on glowking
for pex
and to snipe blissey
thx
low jasper
Future sight flame thrower sludge and ice beam
You can do surf on pult I see heatran a bit annoying
Over hex
tawny marsh
scrap?
upper plume
Scrap what?
karmic geyserBOT
young island
https://pokepast.es/64cf9b4686dccd23
SM OU, built w/SubClaws Kyu
This has been working fine but I oftentimes feel like losing either Kyu or Lop really fucks up my offensive pressure
@vast oracle Chatot doesn't feel like tagging you so uh check this when you read it 👍
mighty glacier
https://pokepast.es/64cf9b4686dccd23
SM OU, built w/SubClaws Kyu
This has been...
I would change hp ice and ice punch
Since you already have kyurem and wash
Prolly just go toxic smackdown or knock off lando
And quick atk lop
young island
Since you already have kyurem and wash
Fair actually, I thought of that for Koko only lmao
fickle tulip
timid pasture
https://pokepast.es/af93e0c019d2fb00 I tried building a TSS team with Magneton to allow my other mons to limit spikes damage for other mons
it's not amazing though
ADV OU
quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/738096a804f19e3a
(probably will be trash lmao first time trying to build balance or something remotely defensive)
(smou)
mighty glacier
https://pokepast.es/738096a804f19e3a
(probably will be trash lmao first time try...
I'd go
Torn t over tang
And gliscor over lando
Having stealth rock and defog on the one mon isn't ideal
Or you could just use empos lop bo
Idk where to find it but I do know that I have it on my pc
quartz remnant
Torn t over tang
wanted to use tang honestly, not sure why you would go double fly tbh
gliscor over lando seems to be a good idea
quartz remnant
also https://pokepast.es/4732d94e4278f9ed
this is an ssou team i made
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low jasper
also https://pokepast.es/4732d94e4278f9ed
this is an ssou team i made
What’s the idea behind the team here or who are you trying to build around
quartz remnant
What’s the idea behind the team here or who are you trying to build around
just wanted to build something a lil bit defensive for a change + specs lele :O
low jasper
just wanted to build something a lil bit defensive for a change + specs lele :O
Drop corv for Defog lando
Make lele scarf future sight
Make urshifu band
Run this buzz
Buzzwole @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 104 Atk / 44 Def / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Roost
quartz remnant
Run this buzz
Buzzwole @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 104 A...
ok
tysm
low jasper
A ground is necessary at all times so don’t drop lando
Or else volt gives you hell cause they just go into what they want at any given moment
quartz remnant
A ground is necessary at all times so don’t drop lando
i mean
swapping rillaboom with landorus
quartz remnant
rilla is just there for the tran problems
quartz remnant
You need corv
fair enough
low jasper
And just makes you more weak to fire
quartz remnant
Kinda redundant when buzz checks similar things
i was checking the ssou cores and i saw the buzznight core so i decided to build around it with my fav specs lele hehe
quartz remnant
Kinda redundant when buzz checks similar things
fair enough, so dnite/sum1 else for rilla and lando for the corv?
low jasper
Yes it good but gives you more insurance it can use blace as set up bait if positioned well
But yeah rain the big one
low jasper
for fires would be enough
Opposing heatran
low jasper
Sure
quartz remnant
why is the gen 9 and gen 8 dnite sets different
low jasper
#comp-general ask here
quartz remnant
<#393435165243867150> ask here
also, would ice MU be tough
dnite and landot being quad
quartz remnant
Checks weave very well esp with helmet
not that problematic then?'
also, would you have any tips/guides to build in past gens such as sm/ss?
low jasper
Check all the resources and read the mons analysis
Helps a ton
And asking any questions you have in #comp-general helps
quartz remnant
Check all the resources and read the mons analysis
by resources you mean this?
low jasper
Yuh
quartz remnant
okay thank you
burnt bone
hey all, how is this team for ss ou?
sort of a grass-ghost ho team that uses mew as a catch-all hazard setter and remover.
sort of debating between boots or sash for mew
slapped blacephalon on there as a way to crack melmetal and opposing grass spam.
also just took off sd on rilla for horsepower to hit heatran
notable i am lacking a ground type but with double grass im kind of hoping i can just tank zeraora. koko is def hard for this team
vague mantle
https://pokepast.es/7d310dd6e3788f88 weird team for Gen 1 ou
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tender coral
sort of a grass-ghost ho team that uses mew as a catch-all hazard setter and rem...
you generally don't want choiced mons on HO outside of scarfers like Kartana
burnt bone
Okay, so what needs to go? I feel like specs pult and like you said scarftana can stay but I agree it’s a bit much to have this many choiced moms
mons
You think volc > blace and maybe a lefties drain punch set on rilla would do the trick?
tribal smelt
https://pokepast.es/b69a5b38e14191c5
I agree with slowpoke on choicelocks being awkward as HO
If I where to do grass spam HO with lead Mew atm I'd focus on mons that can manage your teams awkward match up into Zapdos and Torn T, as this team right now loses to a common trend which is to stack birds for their defensive-offensive utility
The only choice lock you do see is Blacephalon as its pairing synergistically with a lot of HO quirks
But I'd approach the winpath differently
Try to build with SD kartana + SD coba berry rillaboom in mind here and see where that takes you
quartz remnant
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rough forum
https://pokepast.es/73dfd64e43d0f644 Gen 5 OU idk why this team isn't working I'm struggling to break through some team comps
I know Krook is an odd choice but its kinda impossible to break Jelli, Reun etc without it
quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/f050ce56736282fc
maybe this but it just seems to be worse tbh
i think ill have to remove pursuit trap
upper plume
https://pokepast.es/73dfd64e43d0f644 Gen 5 OU idk why this team isn't working I'...
Latias and Krookodile are suboptimal choices on rain
But to be honest, you're going to have issues with these Pokemon by virtue of the fact that they are just good into rain
Replacing Latias with a Specs Latios gives you instant breaking power against these annoying Pokemon while also synergizing well with rain better than Calm Mind Latias
I also think that going with Scarf Keldeo just makes you overall more solid into offense teams
Leech Seed is also a move that is becoming more difficult to fit on Ferrothorn
Making Ferrothorn your Stealth Rocker and giving it Leftoves makes it a better buffer against Dragons
I think that Krookodile's slot would be better utilized by a Pokemon that threatens damage to sand teams
This can be a Mamoswine, SD Garchomp, Kyurem-B, Thundurus-T, etc
Something that can check Reuniclus with powerful attacks
candid prairie
i feel like u need rawst on ferro here
otherwise washer just sits on this whole team
esp if u make it scarf / ajet keld
upper plume
Yeah you're kinda sitting in Scald and pray city
Atp
Probably Rawst > Lefties and then Starmie > Tenta
If you go that route
rough forum
Ah oki thanks
timber lance
https://pokepast.es/7d310dd6e3788f88 weird team for Gen 1 ou
late as hell but oml gen 1 lets fucking go??
But in short, this team is a bit of a mess, No Tauros, No Snorlax, No Chansey, all 3 of which are mandatory on nearly every team structure other than the very niche chanseyless offensive cores, no psychic on eggie is giga fake, psybeam alakazam is also fake and this team has neither the longevity nor breaking power to really be effective offensively or defensively
like this structurally doesn't work, 4 of your pokemon get terrorised by Zapdos with no real way to check it beyond landing a sleep powder on it, neither of your sleep powder mons wanna come in on it either nor can they make much progress against it. and again, without the trifecta of the 3 normals, your team has very little offensive pressure aside from kingler who quite frankly, isn't very good
I'd take this one back to the drawing board
quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/846680b9f2657b62
trying out oras ou for the first time
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vague mantle
https://pokepast.es/5c0744e2fe5833f8
Gen 4 team
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timber lance
don't play gen4 but I can already tell you Starf berry is the most gamblecore item you can possibly have and not in a good way
cobalt vigil
https://pokepast.es/5c0744e2fe5833f8
Gen 4 team
Stealth Rock is mandatory on any DPP competitive team.
The sets and pokemon combination aren't effective enough to make the team viable. I can suggest you to play the sample teams to get a better feel of the metagame. https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/dpp-ou-sample-teams.3687351/
vague mantle
https://pokepast.es/6e0f03cac097e1c2 Gen 8 I think it's ok
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quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/6e0f03cac097e1c2 Gen 8 I think it's ok
what bro above you said about sets
is accurate here too
also hows it gigantamax melmetal in ou
tribal smelt
Not legal
quick kelp
Gen 5 ou https://pokepast.es/a81454bddf060435
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gritty scaffold
You might want a latios over magnezone
And spikes over leech ferro
Id prob change conk for reun tbh
quick kelp
Id prob change conk for reun tbh
do you have a set in mind?
gritty scaffold
Cm psychic thunder recover
quick kelp
ev spread?
gritty scaffold
The one from smogon dex
karmic geyserBOT
mighty glacier
Max defence
gritty scaffold
No need for 52 ev spread
gritty scaffold
Imo you might want sd exca here
And latios should be scarfed
And i would drop gyro for twave on ferro , rocks for knock off and use rocks on gliscor over toxic and u turn over ice fang
gritty scaffold
someone said I would have a problem with fighting types
Yea is very weak to keldeo without latios
upper plume
It is also currently very weak to Mamoswine, even with the changes that you've made
gritty scaffold
Tbh idt is rly possible to not be weak to mamo on sand teams
Like unless u are using hard checks like rotom/brozong/max defense skarm
But atleast mamo doesnt switch well on most of those mons
gritty scaffold
Gen 5 ou https://pokepast.es/a81454bddf060435
Oh yea drop stealth rock on ttar for crunch
inner mist
Gen 5 ou https://pokepast.es/a81454bddf060435
What's with the random conkeldurr?
Also doesn't this team just get bulldozed by Volc after 1 QD?
Ferro is a walking entry point for Volc to come in (Maybe even Gliscor with that set, Lum is especially bad)
If I wanted to use a Fighter on Sand Teams I would use Terrakion since he actually patches holes
Whereas Conk just opens them
Moreover I don't see the synergy between Fighters and Zone
Zone is for teams that don't have a reliable way to break Ferro (i.e Magic Spikes Sand)
But Conk is literally there so that's just a wasted slot
gritty scaffold
Also doesn't this team just get bulldozed by Volc after 1 QD?
Rslide tar should be a good check i think?
Oh yea ttar also is missing sassy nature
But yea terrak also is pretty nice here
inner mist
Ok but Tar as a sole Volc check doesn't look good
At least to me
Tar in tandem with another Volc Check feels much better
Like Terrakion for reasons I mentioned earlier
gritty scaffold
Ye for sure
stiff sail
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stiff sail
I updated my gen 3 ou team today
Very happy with it, its doing better than my previous versions
cerulean bay
https://pokepast.es/2d532d6360e2a759 ngl was 90% just following tytar smogon page
so
what could be change?
SS
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cerulean bay
holy shesh bot
low jasper
https://pokepast.es/2d532d6360e2a759 ngl was 90% just following tytar smogon pag...
This team doesn’t have rocks
Ferrothorn > buzz
I think I like fire punch over heavy slam a bit better here for Ttar
cerulean bay
Ferrothorn > buzz
wouldnt i be too weak to fire?
cerulean bay
Outside of that this seems solid
just to make sure
that, right? https://pokepast.es/b0a4c63ce10b904a
low jasper
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Knock Off
This
Power whip so you don’t get owned by tapu fini
cerulean bay
gotcha, thx
low jasper
Np
cerulean bay
Np
yo me again
so
twice
i got paired with an heat/pex/hippo/torn/katana/forgo the other, but wasnt used
my thing is, its quite walled my team with lot of switheros, my skill issue or should i improve the team?
and i had an stroke reading my own shit
lmao
sometimes perfect english
sometimes i speak nonsense
god bless america
so, it was a team issue or a me issue?
low jasper
Gotcha
Go scarf future sight tapu lele > pult
That should fix your issue
You could also do pads urshifu .> rotom
cerulean bay
You could also do pads urshifu .> rotom
soo full ofense?
cerulean bay
You could also do pads urshifu .> rotom
https://pokepast.es/e17dd53e63202ddc ngl
seems a lil frail to me
but that's me xD
low jasper
Nah this fine
low jasper
https://pokepast.es/e17dd53e63202ddc ngl
seems a lil frail to me
Also ferro should be rocks over spikes
cerulean bay
Nah this fine
next question
how should i play it? ngl imma kinda lost
tried ofensive
clapped
more careful
clapped
maintain pressure
clapped
imma dumb wild
low jasper
https://pokepast.es/e17dd53e63202ddc ngl
seems a lil frail to me
You answer most faster offensive mons anyway examples include the ghost types (blace and pult) Ttar and scarf lele , koko is answered by ferrothorn and drill, and weavile by ferro so on and so forth
cerulean bay
😭
low jasper
Also ferro can be helmet
cerulean bay
oh
cerulean bay
next question
how should i play it? ngl imma kinda lost
tried ofensive
clapped
m...
Wht abt that?
low jasper
#comp-general ping me here and I’ll explain
stiff sail
https://pokepast.es/e16a7ede42af7649 gen 3 ou
I made a new team, wanted to try something a little different, any thoughts?
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candid prairie
Lead starmie feels like a good way to put yourself on the back foot immediately
not even twave or ice beam u dont rlly threaten any common lead w that set
I'd honestly rather see that ttar in the lead slot but the team just doesnt feel super cohesive in general
stiff sail
You think so?
hm it was just hard to pick a good lead with all the magneton running around
so what part exactly doesnt feel like it fits?
I just threw it together cuz I wanna try something new and yeah..
I just dont know about lead ttar with this variant
But if I swap skarm for forrtress again I could just put gengar in starmie’s spot, which would help this team a ton
but idk if I should just do that, cuz I do wanna use starmie
then again lead ttar lets me use brick break on the somewhat common metagross leads
set sand immediately too
or I can fire blast it if I feel lucky
I coulda sworn I gave my starmie ice beam but apparently not
stiff sail
well first time using the team after a small update, it seems to work well enough, I gave my starmie ice beam and put ttar in lead, worked well
from what I did do though I noticed dugtrio hasnt been as helpful as I’d have hoped, so I might slot in something else in its place
candid prairie
duggy seems needed to remove jirachi / celebi which u cant rlly kill otherwise
you could try charizard instead maybe
stiff sail
Hmm maybe
idk I’m not totally sure what makes this team tick yet
needs a lot more testing
cerulean bay
or better
u guys have a tytar sample?
low jasper
low jasper
Np np
cerulean bay
https://pokepast.es/7c5fbcbdd0712051
quick question
how to deal with a well played weav? predicts?
candid prairie
5 of the 6 mons beat it
tender coral
https://pokepast.es/e17dd53e63202ddc ngl
seems a lil frail to me
it's more about how specific breakers tear this team a new one, e.g. Volcanion has no switch-ins
I think a good way to cheat with these structures needing a special pivot is AV Torn since Excadrill is actually a pretty good spinner in SS
you also want aqua jet on Urshifu to revenge kill Blaziken
taunt is nice but isn't mandatory for the stall matchup since you have really good tools like CB Ttar/future sight Lele for those
spice pebble
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toxic gulch
https://pokepast.es/fbf8d08a9c8bbc1c
A Volt-turn team for Gen 5 OU, was need some advice on the moveset. If possible, i want to keep Mienshao on the team
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gritty scaffold
i wouldnt use ladder as example
also ur still low ladder where quality is pretty poor as shown by the team you just faced . that team is also not good
this team feels so random
using sash zam without spikes support on non lo seems iffy
upper plume
nice keldeo check
gritty scaffold
and mienshao scarf isnt viable
yea this is 6-0 by keldeo
even scarf latios tbh
upper plume
yeah mienshao is just not good in bw
candid prairie
shao is viable but yea its bad
gritty scaffold
its not viable
gritty scaffold
breloom mu also looks horrible
candid prairie
its usable if they wanna use it but its not for beginners yea
toxic gulch
I haven't touched Showdown in months, I've been going sobers, yet in the moment of weakness they pull me back in kicking and screamin'
tribal smelt
Do not use mienshao in BW OU
Even if you are experienced it is extremely mediocre
gritty scaffold
I haven't touched Showdown in months, I've been going sobers, yet in the moment ...
id recommend look at samples , vr and try build again
toxic gulch
Should i replace it with Lando-T then?
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gritty scaffold
Should i replace it with Lando-T then?
everything doesnt seem to work well together
toxic gulch
Does it get updated? Last I checked, the samples is still in the period where Cloyster still ran supreme
candid prairie
cloy was banned
toxic gulch
I'm aware. While Reuniclus stayed
candid prairie
oh i misread sorry
gritty scaffold
your team is just frail into everything but also not so fast , not so strong
gritty scaffold
i woulndt run super power as 4th move on lando . i usually go for stone miss or stealth rock
and run wisp over hp grass
oh this looks 6-0 by volcarona nvm
mix chomp also isnt that good btw
gritty scaffold
i would advice rock slide on tar over ice punch
and maybe special rachi
with icy wind , hp fire
inner mist
https://pokepast.es/fe3b35bb309b6516
This is a pretty old team
It was used before Keldeo's usage ramped up
Also, SR Chomp sort of fell out of favor when compared to Lando/Gliscor
If I wanted to use Volt Turn I would use something like this
Also, if you want to build with a mon like Mienshao, you are going to have to ask someone in the BW Server who actually built teams with it
quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/13c587c087ec4376
thoughts?
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mighty glacier
https://pokepast.es/13c587c087ec4376
thoughts?
I'd go like spdef scizor with defog spikes on gren sub over earth power on kyurem taunt + toxic heatran over victini and koko over fini
Prolly scarf koko works
quartz remnant
I'd go like spdef scizor with defog spikes on gren sub over earth power on kyur...
scizor is built that way to counter mag specs
im using uturn gren to form a sort of volt-turn core
sub/eq/roost idm changing lol
andd i honestly built this team around victini
fini is here to stop burn/wave on kyu, scizor, victini haha
kind shadow
https://pokepast.es/ac1578b9e222df24 (don't have a last decided yet)
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polar nacelle
https://pokepast.es/ac1578b9e222df24 (don't have a last decided yet)
Skarmbliss is obviously okay but dug rachi mie altogether with those sets is a bit unstable
defensive starmie here with a more balanced rachi like cm wish might be better
That rachi set usually wouldn’t go with bliss
kind shadow
I see
polar nacelle
Dug offmie is fine but you probably would use Ttar last then
polar nacelle
And have a pert
kind shadow
Any last that could take advantage of the paralysis mie and blissey spread?
polar nacelle
Mie doesn’t really hit anything with paralysis except zap
And maybe rachi
I would think the decision on the last should be kind of independent of the paralysis
kind shadow
polar nacelle
In its current state you’re soft vs cune lax
You could try cm bliss to deal with cune better
And then use wishtect rachi for better physdef
But this 6 is decently ok
You just need to choose the sets
polar nacelle
Also use rock slide on dug, you don’t need to beat blissey here and you’d rather want the emergency slide
Yeah it’s kinda ok maybe even cursepert might be possible
polar mesa
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quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/56eaf71a56e4dc16
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quartz remnant
https://pokepast.es/50fc65496625bb85
thoughts?
mighty glacier
https://pokepast.es/50fc65496625bb85
thoughts?
I'd go heatran over mag
So u can have defog lando
On a team with Char Y double defog is v nice
quartz remnant
I'd go heatran over mag
fair enough
ruby thorn
https://pokepast.es/33f7bb42ec949dda
so this is a pretty late reply sorry, but what i would do is
i would make is choice scarf latios, it makes you more comfortable into dragonite and volcarona and also very good breaking tyranitar for alakazam
with this i would use life orb zam with grass knot