#Ubers

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devout urchin
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I'll probably build another team and test it, then if it continuously loses I'll change it a bit, and continue from there

rose cargo
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Anyways Ma'am, this is no place to play with your favorites unless your favorites are on the VR rankings

devout urchin
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Fair lol, plus almost all my favourites aren't legendaries

rose cargo
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Yeah, your favs are probably viable in a place NOT called Ubers

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Koraidon is peak ubers while regieleki.... Is usable in Ubers UU

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Serp is mid in OU, and has been ok in ou in past gens

devout urchin
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Okie I'm in class now lol

rose cargo
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Urshifu is straight up mid

devout urchin
devout urchin
rose cargo
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Ok, just keep in mind the fact that this server is no place for non competitive teams in the rmt channel.

devout urchin
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Ah okie

rose cargo
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Gl on grades

devout urchin
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Built my first Mon so far, can't figure an item

rose cargo
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And stall doesn't use protect that often if you know them

devout urchin
rose cargo
devout urchin
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Guessing that on every Mon except my first

rose cargo
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But if this team is gonna end up like the last I am gonna crash tf out and be out in a blink of an eye

devout urchin
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What EVs?

rose cargo
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Go ask in competitive general on building by the way

devout urchin
devout urchin
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Thanks for (rather rudely) attempting to help lol

rose cargo
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: (

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I can't help but act like that when I saw the team and mindset

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Felt like a stroke

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Just living up to what I wrote in my bio

devout urchin
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"that team probably wouldn't win competitively, I could help build a new one if you want" - simple, friendlier, doesn't make people immediately go defensive

rose cargo
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Seems very fair

devout urchin
rose cargo
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Though no casual player will ever understand the pain I felt when I clicked on the paste

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See you in competitive general

cinder fox
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!nolegends

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red plank
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Do natdex ubers teams go here?

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That's what Ubers is

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Ubers is mostly for legendaries

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Go play zu or smth

honest sand
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#1059714627384115290

red plank
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Ah thanks

devout urchin
heady minnow
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humble olive
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And if not you should remove its attack EVs

heady minnow
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Aight

rose cargo
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Otherwise special sets are hex draco defog and another move

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Physical sets are polter dtail sneak defog

cinder fox
rose cargo
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Hm

cosmic halo
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zealous ocean
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zealous ocean
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@steep tulip

steep tulip
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on LOA rn

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👍

zealous ocean
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my bad lol

cinder fox
zealous ocean
cinder fox
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boots

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you need some way to webs proof in a tier where webs is so dominant

rose cargo
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Boots wild charge koraidon

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Trust

silk flame
signal thunder
lime prairie
lime prairie
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While also having bad 4mss

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Since it needs +2 just to outrun koraidon w scarf and then it needs rock coverage for ho-oh, psychic / fairy for korai, grass for ogre, bug for lu etc

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Other special attackers just get way more for so much less effort

silk flame
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is hisui samurott decent?

jagged tartan
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No

silk flame
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switched greninja regieleki and volcarona for lunala kingambit and gliscor

civic stag
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civic stag
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Made something new

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It's trick room but idk whether etern should be replaced or not

lime prairie
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trick room inherently just isn't a good strategy but if you're set on using it you have to either use just 1-2 trick room max on an HO team or go all in

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which would be dropping ho-oh and etern in this case for going all in

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and just going min speed ogre with a hatterene > one of the 2 mons and whatever last you want

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my recommendation would usually be koraidon since I think having at least something to function out of trick room is good

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and it covers you from getting auto 6-0'd by kyogre

civic stag
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And my tr mons need to be able to set TR by themselves if I just add them to a ho team?

lime prairie
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yes

civic stag
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I see

lime prairie
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on HO builds it's just a normal team like lead deos/glimmora, koraidon, zacian, arceus

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then fillers like trick room sd calyrex, trick room ndm, trick room ndw

civic stag
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I had the core for a tr idea in a dream

lime prairie
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those kinds of things

civic stag
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Oops

lime prairie
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if you wanna use full room it's just really specific in how it has to be built due to how generally inconsistent its mu spread is

civic stag
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Like I was in bed and I woke up and said OK ill use ice caly, and ndm

civic stag
rose cargo
ebon plume
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If I may ask

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Is the “1-2 TR mons on an HO team” thing not good on its own either?

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Cause ik hard tr is suboptimal at best but like

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Stuff like TR Caly + TR NDM has always been goated from my play

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But my play is still limited to ladder, even if at the highest echelon, so I don’t know how good it is in tournament and official level play

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Genuine question lol

lime prairie
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I generally don't like trick room ndm aside from quite specific teams but caly is fine on HO and I've also used trick room caly + trick room dawn wings on an HO build back in mirai meta that performed well

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it's a lot more viable than full room and can work if supported right

ebon plume
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Yea I thought so, just the way you worded it originally had me confused lol

harsh oriole
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Hi folks, I need help with this team (Ubers Reg G spice): https://pokepast.es/7fbbff79e8b69052

It is the first comp team I ever built, and I need advice on a few things:

  1. Better type-coverage. I get swept by Fire, Grass and Ground types.
  2. How to setup my Ting-Lu wall properly? Am I running too many gimmicks with Ting-Lu AND Corviknight?
  3. Should I remove Corviknight and go in the direction of Flutter Mane as a Trick Room-setter? Or maybe pivot into Gliscor and something else and go completely into entry-hazards?
  4. Maybe I'm just playing terribly? Maybe my team is *okay* but my skills aren't?

Thank you very much for your insight.

jagged tartan
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Because the formats are quite different

harsh oriole
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So it is an Ubers team, but I have a one Reg G Restricted mon/team restriction. Am I posting in the right channel? 🤔

harsh oriole
manic scroll
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Reg G would go in the VGC thread

harsh oriole
# manic scroll Reg G would go in the VGC thread

Well, it is really a Ubers format team; it isn't designed to be played in VGC Doubles at all.
It is an Ubers format, but with an additional restriction of only one Restricted mon per team. Sorry about the confusion.

manic scroll
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The RMT section isn’t for rating arbitrarily restricted teams. If you’re having fun with it wherever you’re using it that’s fine, but this isn’t the place to post

harsh oriole
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Understood. Sorry again and thank you for your time.

rose cargo
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The closest to that is BSS singles btw

rose cargo
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ebon plume
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LOL

orchid onyx
orchid onyx
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yeah sorry didnt know dpp/hgss needed to be added

ebon plume
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Don’t worry

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I was just confused whether you meant the metagame or like ingame SoulSilver

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From what I get about the meta tho, I’m afraid this team doesn’t competitively work out

The only non-unviable Pokémon here are Tyranitar and I reckon Lugia but they don’t want to run these sets either, Ubers metagame has a much higher power level especially this Gen onwards with the introduction of Arceus

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ebon plume
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I recommend checking these resources, particularly the first link

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And using the Viability Rankings and basing yourself off of Sample Teams if you wanna build a DPP team from a competitive standpoint

orchid onyx
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illl give this a check now thanks 🙂

ebon plume
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No worries, good luck goat

ebon plume
# orchid onyx illl give this a check now thanks 🙂

Also as you do it, one important thing to note is that we have Ubers and Farceus Ubers as two different things in DPP

And the difference is Farceus Ubers allows the usage of Arceus whereas Ubers does not, the rest is the same

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So as you check the VR, check to see if Arceus is listed because that implies which Ubers they’re talking about

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Good luck 👍

orchid onyx
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ahhh okaay thats good to know thank you

ebon plume
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Np :)

stark cloud
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fwiw it is probably better to say dpp ubers because the way the initial question was worded sounded like you were asking for help with an in game team

woeful fulcrum
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how did i do for my first team

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it made one guy RQ

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and another guy timed out

jagged tartan
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So I know you mentioned in #comp-general that you are new to Pokemon Showdown

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and I don't recommend trying to start learning competitive Pokemon through older generation lower tiers like Gen 7 Ubers

woeful fulcrum
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ok

jagged tartan
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you also wanted to use Metagross in particular, and it is a great option in tiers like Gen 3 OU, Gen 4 OU, and Gen 9 UU

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These are all tiers that have more resources and a greater community, so you should look at one of those tiers to try using Metagross

woeful fulcrum
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any tier or meta i should try out first?

jagged tartan
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Pick one of Gen 3 OU, Gen 4 OU, or Gen 9 UU

woeful fulcrum
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ok

dreamy plank
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My first rain team

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It says “Rain Team 2” because i modified the first version

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I replaced zacian and lugia with miraidon and ho-oh

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Is the team good for the doubles ubers format

rose cargo
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Kyurem white is garbage, scarf ogre is more specific, what the fuck is that Ho-Oh set ( Reflect? Rocky helmet??? Life dew in singles?????? No boots???)

Miraidon is completely unusable in Ubers, like yeah it’s unusable.

And bro what the frick is that calyrex ice rider set… what is your intentions behind these sets?

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@dreamy plank fix these sets, and tell me why did you use them… or just go use a sample team.

humble olive
rose cargo
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💀 😭 🙏 Mr president another lost user has landed

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Even for doubles Ubers my logic still applies

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Idk what do you even have for zamazenta + calyrex shadow

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Nasty plot Tera ghost life orb astral barrage one shots everything on your team

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You don’t even have actual speed control, a single tailwind and there is nothing you can do to prevent calyrex shadow from rolling over everything in sight

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Most importantly, this channel is for regular Ubers, not doubles Ubers

long dew
rose cargo
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Strange

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Oh HO

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Dual choice item HO is crazy

long dew
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worrywhirl surely we are not doing this again

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i just had a game where band recover was useful

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didnt save the replay but u can get ho-oh healed up against enemy ho-oh in a pinch and ho-oh doesnt have a great 4th attacking move anyway

rose cargo
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I might even argue that choice band whirlwind is better

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@cinder fox Mr president the double choice item HO has returned, send reinforcements

long dew
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meh

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u should be proud

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it was triple choice before

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and theres no more deoxys attack

lime prairie
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aside from that the main issues are the ho-oh and the ndw

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you can argue for scarf ogre on HO rn so I don't think it's the worst thing ever

lime prairie
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the smogdex

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most HO should probably autoinclude zacian so I think just going zacian > ho-oh makes this quite a bit better, and ndw rn is just kinda outclassed by lunala as a ghost psychic and as a slow attacker you'd want smth with priority like kingambit

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but for variety in attacking sides you can probably keep it as a special attacker

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if you're really attached to ndw you can do the trick room 3a set

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which is more reliable and isn't the worst HO mon you could use

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mono stored power is just too gimmicky with ting lu on the rise, tera dark on a lot of stuff for lunala, taunt arc, phazing, etc

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it's been seen on ndm since that just has a better defensive profile and a few more chances to get it going but it's still very inconsistent

long dew
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does dazzling gleam ohko koraidon

lime prairie
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not without investment

long dew
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it needs the 84?

lime prairie
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no it needs near max

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the 84 is just leftover

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the defense is more important on that set

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84 SpA Glimmora Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Koraidon: 308-364 (90.3 - 106.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

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252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Scale Shot (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 172 Def Glimmora: 255-305 (83 - 99.3%) -- approx. 2HKO

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this is what the defense does

long dew
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whats the 172 on def meant for surviving

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oh i see

dreamy plank
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Oh and really sorry, this team is for doubles lol

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I didn’t find a doubles ubers channel so i posted it here

ebon plume
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You’re right about the team but you could say that without sounding obnoxiously rude

rose cargo
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Fair point

ebon plume
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I would genuinely be offended in Chitak’s shoes rn

dreamy plank
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Its alright

ebon plume
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But yea like

dreamy plank
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It is kinda bad i gotta admit

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dreamy plank
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Though i got some wins with it

ebon plume
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Checking these resources

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Should help a lot

rose cargo
ebon plume
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With inexperienced/starting off-team building

dreamy plank
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Thanks

ebon plume
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I did have to say something is all lol

ebon plume
long dew
next rover
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cinder fox
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zac > ndm. i think dd ndm is just extremely mid at best while zac is a top 2 mon

next rover
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Alr

cinder fox
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lunala > chi yu

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boots fast cm 3a

next rover
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No Moonlight?

cinder fox
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it can be moonlight > moonblast but ting is rising

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as well as tera darks on several specially defensive mons

next rover
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Bount (Lunala) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Shadow Shield
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Calm Mind
  • Moongeist Beam
  • Moonblast
  • Psyshock
cinder fox
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yea this is fine

next rover
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Alr

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Any other changes?

cinder fox
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uhm

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okay with the zac i think the best tera and set is like

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tera flying dual stabs wild charge

next rover
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Tera flying?

cinder fox
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for the webs mirror + can set up on lando

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allows you to overwhelm it

next rover
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Fair

cinder fox
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for korai and groundy

next rover
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Ye fair

cinder fox
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mainly for webs mirror tho

next rover
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Alright

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Made the changes

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Tysm

cinder fox
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also smth else is that

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idt smeargle is very good tbh

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would be significantly better being a ribombee

next rover
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Smeargle js seems funny w Nuzzle

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Although yh, it's not the bulkiest mon

cinder fox
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its mostly that its stats are just way way way too low to be consistent

next rover
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Ye fair

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I was recommended Smeargle in NdUbers so I figured it'd be good here asw

cinder fox
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loses to scale/dwb korai, taunt arcs, sub zac

next rover
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Fair

cinder fox
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bee is prepped for obv but it has ways around its counterplay

next rover
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Ye alr I'll switch back to Bee

cinder fox
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you can also go slower on etern

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48 speed dump rest in hp

next rover
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Alr then

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Ty

rose cargo
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Then run max speed

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I like it for stopping annoying Ekiller and Idcm shenanigans

cinder fox
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recover is better generally

long dew
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i think its slightly better since i dont have other gusting capability

rose cargo
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rose cargo
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Calyrex ice is kinda just there as filler, wanted something that does well vs HO and doesnt thud into other matchups

jagged tartan
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what happens if there's a garg on the stall team

rose cargo
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Right guys

twilit quiver
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I'd say it's 50/50

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could try healing wish > twave on arceus or just make it taunt cm which i think owns stall p hard

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but hwish allows caly to bash its face into stall multiple times

rose cargo
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🤔

lost sable
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if it burns early enough/if it took a lot of hazard chip might run out of recover pp

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otherwise stall is just 6-0ed

daring iron
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Hey can i get some ubers team building advice? I made it to 1525 with this team but noticed that it struggles against scarf koriadon as well as hatterne trick room sets. Heres my team: https://pokepast.es/39bc81b3a6553baa

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im thinking about replacing arceus (with what idk) and scarfing my koriadon but im worried ill need espeed for revenge killing

rose cargo
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This looks like HO but you wanna first get the most important thing of an HO team onto your team first and foremost

cinder fox
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and make the etern the lo set

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sbomb dmax fire blast recover tera dragon/fairy

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life orb max spatk max speed 4 spdef modest

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tera fire on korai and tera ghost on ogre but everything else on those 2 are fine

rose cargo
cinder fox
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well yeah there's nothing really wrong with it

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its an offense

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not specifically an ho

rose cargo
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Hm

cinder fox
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these kinds of ditto offense structures are fine

rose cargo
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Seems about right

lost sable
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are the mirai/korai/pivot lando/zacian/gambit/ekiller style of team still possible

jagged tartan
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No because Miraidon is banned

daring iron
quartz nexus
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I'm new in pixelmon, but can you recommend a team with Flutter Mane?

manic scroll
unborn dagger
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Hi this was my first try at building a team, it's a singles team but I see the obvious weakness to flying on half of my team and need help on how can I better it

https://pokepast.es/5e764e3e7cceca16

rose cargo
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What tier

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This is definitely not Ubers

unborn dagger
rose cargo
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Like koraidon Ho-Oh eternatus meta

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What are you tryna cook bruh 😭 💀 🙏

unborn dagger
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I shoulve posted this on ou tbf hamstercry

hearty cairn
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Volcarona is in OU in nat dex

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Because tera got banned Im pretty sure.

unborn dagger
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Yes

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Wait.

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I shouldve posted this in natdex

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My bad

hearty cairn
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...

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Aint Annihilape still banned in nat dex ou btw?

unborn dagger
unborn dagger
regal anchor
honest sand
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also this isnt even ur own team

potent hound
manic scroll
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Is this supposed to be a VGC/BSS team? You only have one Uber mon. There’s a separate thread for those

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Your incin is running serious btw

rose cargo
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💀

echo cave
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Great Tusk @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 44 Def / 4 SpD / 208 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Rapid Spin
  • Stealth Rock
  • Earthquake
  • Heavy Slam

Serperior @ Light Clay
Ability: Contrary
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Leaf Storm
  • Light Screen
  • Giga Drain
  • Reflect

Flutter Mane @ Aguav Berry
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Stored Power
  • Calm Mind
  • Mystical Fire
  • Wish

Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Hydro Pump
  • Hurricane
  • Tailwind
  • Ice Beam

Archaludon @ Leftovers
Ability: Stamina
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Electro Shot
  • Flash Cannon
  • Body Press
  • Iron Defense

Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Kowtow Cleave
  • Sucker Punch
  • Iron Head

Is my team good?

jagged tartan
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One

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jagged tartan
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Two, no

echo cave
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Why?

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Is it bad

jagged tartan
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Yes

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Most of these Pokemon are not viable in Ubers

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oh wow the sets are also bad too

echo cave
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And how do i make them good?

jagged tartan
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which Pokemon are you trying to build around?

echo cave
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Archaludon obiosly

cinder fox
echo cave
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Ok

cinder fox
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i would recommend checking out these resources and using a sample

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since this team cant be rated in this state

manic scroll
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!arbitraryformats

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primal nest
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i had some trouble in testing vs mew

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i think vs lead mew i should probably go don t1

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it still feels a bit touch-and-go

rose cargo
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rose cargo
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Idk what do they run for this specific set, maybe adamant is the better one but idk

simple temple
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https://pokepast.es/814f18324b5e1f8b

Need help with improving basically every Pokemon

Not a fan of Zacian's movepool
Idk what is eternatus doing
Ribombee is finee ig need some improvement tho
Koraidon and Lunala are a-ok
And thinking whether I should replace zapceus with ekiller

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Also can I get NDM in this team somehow, it's one of my all time favorite pokemon

rose cargo
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wrong channel my guy

simple temple
manic scroll
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Also in the future please don’t post a screenshot when you’ve already sent the pokepaste link

simple temple
manic scroll
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Because it’s not your team

simple temple
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oh yeah this is rate my team

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well i js wanted improvements on this team :/

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but alright

manic scroll
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The sample teams are already very successful teams in ladder or tournament play

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They were accepted for use for a reason

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There’s no point in posting an edited sample here, the response is to use the sample as is

simple temple
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Having trouble deciding between Taunt and Earthquake for Arceus

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and whether Fairyceus should be on this team or not

simple temple
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but taunt if I'm going against Ho-Oh or some other mons who run wow

rose cargo
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what is bro doing with max attack max speed sunsteel knock ndm 💀

simple temple
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taunt seems useless cause sf has a 50% chance to burn

simple temple
rose cargo
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also Ho-Oh doesnt run wisp

simple temple
rose cargo
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also even modest lunala is faster than you

rose cargo
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thunder ekiller

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what is this guy on

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no

simple temple
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thunder ho-oh

rose cargo
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thats also just as bad in SV

simple temple
rose cargo
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maybe you might use that in ADV for kyogre or stg

simple temple
rose cargo
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yes

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offensive ndm doesnt fit on teams like this anyways

simple temple
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also is my koraidon EVd right

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like do i need to run max speed or can i just outspeed max speed investment zacian and dump the rest of my EVs in hp or smth

simple temple
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i'll try this team out then

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thx

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simple temple
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huh

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what else to improve

rose cargo
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you are using meteor beam toxic toxic spikes protect eternatus

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must I say any more

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what is this

simple temple
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uh protect to get toxic chip + leftovers heal

rose cargo
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also offensive NDM does nothing on this team that it needs

simple temple
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then tspikes for hazards

rose cargo
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me when I also isnt running any stab moves

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😭

simple temple
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what do i do then 😭

rose cargo
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my guy please look at the smogdex for the real sets

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they have most of the viable sets there

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the only time you use meteor beam without power herb was back in swsh when a few used cosmic power mbeam recover cannon

simple temple
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Okay I did

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Also is chople berry on arc good

rose cargo
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not in a marshadowless meta

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read up, this one is for eternatus but ndm and whatnot are in there too

simple temple
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Okay!

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Thanks

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rose cargo
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Alr @cinder fox ya do the rest, he wants to keep ndm

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Where is your Arceus

rose cargo
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Where is your koraidon check

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bonk (Zacian-Crowned) @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Sacred Sword
  • Behemoth Blade
  • Agility

waifu tier (Meowscarada) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protean
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Flower Trick
  • U-turn
  • Knock Off
  • Triple Axel

rock (Metagross) @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Psychic Fangs
  • Iron Head
  • Meteor Mash

kfc (Blaziken-Mega) @ Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Blaze Kick
  • Sky Uppercut
  • Brave Bird

Iron Treads @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Shiny: Yes
Hidden Power: Grass
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

  • Stealth Rock
  • Earthquake
  • Steel Beam
  • Rapid Spin

dry boi (Groudon-Primal) @ Red Orb
Ability: Desolate Land
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Heat Crash
  • Rock Polish
  • Swords Dance
  • Precipice Blades
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https://pokepast.es/976d324df2cc55ac
Hey, here is my Hyper Offense Dual Screen Ubers team! While I feel that it is pretty good, I am open to suggestions to make it even better! Plz let me know what I need to do!

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THAT SAID

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this is workable

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generally just replace the three i mentioned with better mons

tired lotus
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ok, what do you suggest I replace them with?

cinder fox
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etern > glimm, zac > flutter immediately

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imo change the ndm into demon

tired lotus
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what is that?

cinder fox
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gimme a sec i'll get the set

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Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Leftovers
Ability: Prism Armor
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 120 Def / 140 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Iron Defense
  • Calm Mind
  • Stored Power
  • Moonlight
tired lotus
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oh, thx

cinder fox
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u set up with id and cm to become unbreakable on both sides of the spectrum

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and kill stuff with superboosted stored power

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instead of iron bundle i'd say go ekiller

tired lotus
cinder fox
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sd espeed arceus normal

tired lotus
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oh that

cinder fox
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coloquially known as ekiller

tired lotus
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got it

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could you send good moveset suggestions for the mons you suggested, plz?

cinder fox
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honestly just use the dex sets

tired lotus
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k

cinder fox
tired lotus
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thx

cinder fox
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well actually change the zac a bit

tired lotus
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special wall or meteor beam attacker on eternatus?

tired lotus
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Eternatus @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Sludge Bomb
  • Dynamax Cannon
  • Fire Blast
  • Recover
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this

tired lotus
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thx

cinder fox
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it can be tera fairy or fire

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iyw

cinder fox
tired lotus
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k thx

tired lotus
cinder fox
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i mean just low kick > cc is fine, no other changes are really needed

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ok, perfect!

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if there is one change I am considering, it is swapping spirit break for parting shot on grimm

cinder fox
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wait

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yea i missed that why on earth is it spirit break

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twave >>>

tired lotus
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thunder wave, got it. for disruption!

cinder fox
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also use the dex spread for grimm

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this spread isnt that great

tired lotus
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k, thx

cinder fox
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looks fine

tired lotus
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thx so much!!

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https://pokepast.es/7764bc457166cae9

I have tried so many things in the eternatus slot but I just can’t find anything that I feel good with.

I also feel like I need a good gameplan for stall tbf

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The team is about iron head swords dance koraidon btw, so keep that because I like how it beats kyogre arc fairy cores

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first off, idk what stalls you're facing that Lunala doesn't eat alive, but tera ghost definitely helps vs stall

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doubly so since you have LO etern to fish for poison on blissey lol.

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since you're on this type of team, why not try out mewtwo or balloon FM

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helps vs fat-ish teams

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and FM also gives you a guaranteed gameplan vs both stall (taunt) and webs mirrors

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while mewtwo goes double dance and does its thing

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it'd be over etern on such a team lol

rose cargo
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experiment a bit

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I haven't done webs FM in a hot sec but I did taunt last time

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w/ psyshock last

rose cargo
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Taunt shock ball blast… hmmm

oblique pecan
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Ho oh is a soft check

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i have been having a good time with this team but i just wanted to share it

jagged tartan
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All but one of these Pokemon (Flutter Mane) are completely unviable in Ubers

acoustic moon
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i actually have been having a great time with them

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specially manaphy

jagged tartan
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What do you do into this guy

acoustic moon
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scald

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not all zacians run wild charge, so it gives me more chance to stat up

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+2 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Manaphy: 325-384 (95.3 - 112.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

acoustic moon
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also good against groudon

cinder fox
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all zac are running wild charge except some sub variants

jagged tartan
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Also wdyd into Taunt + CM Arceus

acoustic moon
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darkrai

cinder fox
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would check out these resources and use a samples instead, as this team can't be rated in this state

jagged tartan
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(Also when Scale Shot Koraidon Terastallizes this team instantly folds)

rose cargo
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(Also when anything sets up the team folds)

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https://pokepast.es/3ec279ac7d8412d0

nobody runs Kyo fairy anymore on the ladder for some reason and I sometimes lose to BS like Sunsteel cm ndm

Something feels wrong… tho my ladder experience was win win lose to absolutely horrid BS and stuff and then repeat, granted sometimes I cteam people.

Or maybe I’m just a really bad player and forgets to set webs on matchups where I really should.

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not viable, urshifu zekrom and groudon are super niche at best and unviable at worst. the sets on all mons are not good either besides calyrex

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thnx

cinder fox
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would check out these resources and use a sample for now, as this team cant be rated in this state

jagged tartan
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Feel like you give up a lot of damage, especially against stuff like Ho Oh

rose cargo
# jagged tartan Is Boots SS Korai consistent?

It does well into hazard stack and maybe stall, and for some reason I am not getting the max defense Ho-Oh facing scale korai interactions very often at all.

It does have problems with other bulky arcs tho

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I have also tried to mess around with life orb adamant to not need Tera to kill arc fairy with iron head, but then I’ll have to give up speed boosting and stuff, while I can’t break stall without outrage

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It’s does do well into webs mirrors tho, but that’s about it other than what I had above

rose cargo
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Oh yeah and it can’t break dirge without outrage

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So uh yeah

primal nest
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not 100% sure baout the ray

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maybe i need toss on bliss too

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had some trouble with lax sun my first test game

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cause it was coming in on bliss

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I want a slow fighting type to slot in instead of urshifu if it isnt good

oblique pecan
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Literally

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Koraidon is infinitly better than all

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Fighting types

rose cargo
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What is this team anyways bro

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😭 💀

green beacon
rose cargo
jagged tartan
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maybe three

green beacon
jagged tartan
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Trick Room usage in Ubers is not to support a whole team

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it's set up by Calyrex-I and Necrozma-DM to support their own wallbreaking

green beacon
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oh ok

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the sets arent good + moltres is hella unviable

cinder fox
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with the myriad of problems with the sets you'd be better off checking these resources and using a sample

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evs, natures, moves, teras, and some mons have two or more of those problems

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idl ndm on these structures, smth like lando is generally better there and you can make the fairyceus cm

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specs ogre doesnt fit here, change it to a more standard set like this

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Kyogre @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 80 SpA / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Calm Mind
  • Origin Pulse
  • Ice Beam
  • Thunder
clever bobcat
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i was thinking CM kyogre at one point

cinder fox
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make it scarf korai asw

clever bobcat
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team just dies from hazards but landorus-T would probably help with that, taunt

cinder fox
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well you can keep specs kyogre

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but if you do that use girao > etern

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you can do something like

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scarf korai, special fog girao > etern, ho-oh or tinglu > ndm

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also change the zac tera to electric

clever bobcat
cinder fox
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fairy does basically nothing relevant for zac

clever bobcat
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STAB WC, fair

honest sand
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is that fucking seth

cinder fox
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also tera steel on girao

rose cargo
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164 defense sets I use more for twave thunder sets

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i have lol

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i was using offensive ho-oh before i wanted to try making my own

cinder fox
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while wanting to build yourself is fine, 5 of these mons are niche at best and unviable at worst. all mons also have bad sets

cinder fox
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would highly recommend just using samples for now

rose cargo
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Flutter and ain’t that bad

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last time i promise

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I made a new one

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oh yeah

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whos a good spinner

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cuz thats more like what i wantr

rose cargo
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You just stack sweepers on a suicide lead

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oh ok

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https://pokepast.es/29f3d318fe27c04d
started playing ubers today, won 4 times in a row (not a boast, all teams I was against were pretty bad), I wanted to build on hex chi-yu because I think the fish is pretty and cute :>

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You hit everything with dark pulse + overheat and maybe psychic, but chi-yu is already as fringe asf

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Sneasler is unviable

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Body slam necrozma never cook again

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Wake is borderline unviable, fringe at best

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Yeah you either gotta rework the entire team or just go use something tried and true.

sonic cipher
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Aw dang

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Anyway the point of hex chi-yu is that with toxic spikes you get a spammable 130 BP move with no drawback and I like chi-yu
(So idealy endgame sweeper)

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I think of switching sneasler for eternatus(?) And switch body slam for knock off

rose cargo
clever bobcat
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especially bc your setup stops working if your opponent just has eternatus

primal nest
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clops don lugia bliss forry deod

steep tulip
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I am a bit curious what the idea behind lead dusclops w/ imprison is, though. catch lax and the rare bu2?

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w/o pursuit I do feel like you miss out on SOME of the appeal of dusclops, though, right?

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I like the sunny day blissey idea but maybe not here because this team is a lil' "do nothing" especially into sth like hp fire skarm or magneton

sonic cipher
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I'm pretty sure dusknoir is strictly better than dusklops w/o eviolite

sonic cipher
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Yeah.

manic scroll
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That is an ADV team.

cinder fox
primal nest
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cause otherwise clops sorta just loses to it

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also beats lax even harder in case of like sball rest (which idt anyone uses but better safe than sorry)

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dropping suit is sorta sad though

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but clops needs to be the lead cause the plan vs subcm ogre is to go bliss, sunny day, go deod; so deod can't lead in case it gets blown up

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primal nest
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i'm not too sure about the deod moves

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currently idea is that you break subcm ogre subs then tox it

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prevent it from subbing with taunt

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but maybe knock is better cause it can just get belled if you tox it

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knock like irreversibly puts it on a timer

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but knock might have difficulty on an individual interaction

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https://pokepast.es/c2013970946b39ee
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(Tbh I am thinking of substituting arceus for a defogger/ rapid spinner or a Web setter (rabombee) it did win me some games but if I don't i think I will have too much trouble with stall)

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jagged tartan
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You have some weird sets

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Reshiram and Walking Wake are just unviable

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You also have no way to handle Kyogre outside of Walking Wake, which isn't strong enough for Ubers

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Scale Shot Koraidon and Extreme Killer Arceus imply you're using a hyper offense team, but Groudon and NDM don't match the pace of the two sweepers

sonic cipher
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Also I can 2ko with koraidon, if it isn't specs

sonic cipher
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Anyway, probably right about reshi, and I did switch to terapagos for rapid spin, but I still want to keep wake bc it's pretty useful against koraidon and zacian in sun (which the goal of my team is)

cinder fox
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compared to kyogre, which has much more power, much better bulk to compensate for awkward speed, twave, doesn’t need prediction to be effective, etc

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and is one of the single best mons in the tier

sonic cipher
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So sub kyogre for wake?

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Guess it makes sense

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Arceus fairy is my main win condition and it's definitely catches ho oh by surprise

oblique wyvern
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Scarf smeargle looks crap, but maybe it works idk

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Fairyceus without recover gets chipped way too easily

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And idt pgem fariy is uncommon

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Im not that good at gen9ubers yet so ill just leave that there, but those are my main concerns

oblique pecan
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Scarf smeargle is just a better scarf bee it can set up spikes asw aganist slower teams sash can be better but my team really likes webs

honest sand
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doesnt scarf smeargle still get outsped by zacc

sonic cipher
honest sand
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zacc is 434

oblique pecan
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But if there's a zacian u don't lead w bee either

honest sand
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u can if ur sash

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click stun spore

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then webs

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only folds to the rare sub zacc but most of the time ur fine

oblique pecan
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Ye but there's always risk of substitute

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Can be instant loose

honest sand
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even then u cna tailwind and ur teammates outspeed it

oblique pecan
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True

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Scarf Smeargle

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Is just so unpredictable

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U will never see lead zacian because they fear getting spored

cinder fox
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but yes point stands

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scarf smeargle is terrible

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just make it sash

cinder fox
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korai def doesn’t need to be lo either

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make the smeargle into sash bee, korai into dice scale, fairyceus into cm taunt, and demon ndm > kyogre

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like this

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it’s skill swap bee so u can set webs on hatt, and you have demon ndm in case of sub zac

clever bobcat
sonic cipher
oblique wyvern
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And why is zekrom flash cannon

cinder fox
cinder fox
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would check these resources as this team really cant be rated in this state without redoing the entire thing

rose cargo
oblique pecan
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Replacing ogre with demon ndm

oblique pecan
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I really like the surprise factor of smeargle ppl tend to set up on it while getting trick scarfed

cinder fox
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jagged tinsel
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k

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rose cargo
cerulean atlas
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Ah, thanks

fleet flax
cinder fox
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if you're looking for bss help i'd check out that channel instead, but if not

cinder fox
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would check out these resources

cerulean atlas
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Bet, tysm

oblique wyvern
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Spamming legends also achieves more than using bad mons

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fleet flax
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Goated team

steep tulip
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bazinga

craggy sapphire
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sonic cipher
fleet flax
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How foolish of me lemme change this rq

untold cove
oblique wyvern
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Kingambit is the only good mon there

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The others are stall exclusive or mid

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Id recommend using one of the sample teams to get a feel for the meta, see whats good and whats not

untold cove
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chat gpt made this team so idk if its good or not

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and i specifically wanted to use palafin since ive never played him

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On Arceus

sonic cipher
# oblique pecan Why that ev spread

I gave it 1 ev in speed to outspeed no speed investment aceus and made it a bulky on the spdef side because I think I need some on my team and gave it a lot of attack because it's its job to attack

oblique wyvern
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if you want a spd wall run tinglu or make hooh specially bulky

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although if you do that, then you'll really have no good answers into scarf koraidon

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flutter mane isnt really that good and im pretty sure dice koraidon is ho-exclusive (may be wrong but that's how it is in ag)

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kyub already isnt the best choice but that set looks really middling, weak to hazards+not super reliable icicle spears

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id recommend looking at the samples and building off of those

oblique pecan
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Ord koraidon is ho exclusive

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Dice is the best of koraidon afterall

cinder fox
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neither orb or dice are ho exclusive but they need a reason to be used out of ho

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typically you need an extra scarfer like ogre or lando or ditto

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that part's fine

cinder fox
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idl scale uturn korai at all, and all other sets and/or spreads are suboptimal at best

jagged tartan
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What is the plan for Kyogre

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Pray no Twave?

honest sand
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kyub and prayers

rose cargo
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The only reason you would wanna use scale U turn is to be a troll and disguise your set

rose cargo
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sonic cipher
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Ho-oh has the minimum evs to guarantee koraidon after a layer of spikes

jagged tartan
honest sand
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Esp since that can be ur rocks setter instead of... sash ray...

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U could prob load a bulky ndm after that instead of lunala (assuming lunala is here as the ekiller answer)

jagged tartan
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it helps answering it but tera ghost korai helps in that respect as well

jagged tartan
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I had already locked in demon arc and didn't want to use sr ndm

fleet flax
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Flyer

fleet flax
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Nasty next to koraidon

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Wait

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This ain't doubles lol

fleet flax
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Even once

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cinder fox
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twave rocks >>>

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also on band korai you want tera fighting or fire every time

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i prefer fighting

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also def go for like zac > ray

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gives you a second physical breaker in the cases where korai doesnt end the game immediately

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you could go for tera electric blade wild charge tb zac

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also imo gira > lunala on teams like this

sonic cipher
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Oh

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I'm dumb

jagged tartan
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mainly for groundy but also webs steamrolls the lunala ver

jagged tartan
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I thought Scarf Lando T was strong against Webs

cinder fox
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it is but its not foolproof

jagged tartan
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Yeah that's fair

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What can I use for TB Zac?

jagged tartan
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I mean against opposing TB Zac

cinder fox
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against opposing zac you kinda just have to win first

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thats a huge weakness of scarf lando stuff in general

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Gotcha

cinder fox
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you can win first via your own zac, paralyzing the zac before it gets going

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never giving it a chance to set up

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etc

jagged tartan
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Makes sense

cinder fox
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which is also something gira can help with ftr, esp w tera steel

jagged tartan
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I was about to ask if Tera Fairy or Steel is better on Tina

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Also, how much experience do you have in the tier?

fleet flax
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singles ubers peaked like 1500 dubers my go to

rose cargo
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L

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I’m sorry what?????

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Is it Trailblaze

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LMAOOOOOOO

cinder fox
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trailblaze yes

lime prairie
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Can also drop wild charge on korai if you go tera fire for flame charge / scale shot, or even if you want on steel tera just do adamant scale shot since it can ohko ho-oh w only 3 hits at +2

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On a roll

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or should it be phystina

cinder fox
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nah hex tina is fine

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Thanks

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Body Slam HoOh + Fsight Fairyceus on rocksless is what you call rice?

sonic cipher
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Yeah pretty much

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Idk what kind of rice you're eating then.

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# oblique pecan https://pokepast.es/f12434d309487522

On this kinda build idt you need a sub zacian, you can probably throw on coverage for other mu’s since ideally ditto covers webs. Crunch probably best for lunala and opposing ndm since both are tough. I’d also just kinda drop etern on this. The cosmic power set is very slow moving for this meta and generally doesn’t do much. If that was the main idea it’s a bit different and would need different teammates around it, but I’d just make it a lando or smth to pivot into ditto and also give this team rocks which it really likes

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Also not sure if this korai spread is worth, not sure the scale roll on ho-oh

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If it’s good odds to kill then it’s fine but w ada ideally you wanna just drop it or close to if possible since jolly is a roll at +2

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Bulky lando

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Or scarf fast

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Pivot

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Lando

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Don’t need scarf with ditto

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https://pokepast.es/ab167c846b49ed1e

its ULT season and im gonna find a way to get my elo back to its rightful spot regardless of the higher difficulty, any help with this wack ass HO? I tried to cover as many common matchups here as possible including stall.

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And no I am not gonna participate in the tour but I need some reliable but not standard stuff

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Mewtwo over etern

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Stall seems to be non existent

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And the ones that do exist got

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Tera dark

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Blissey

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i believe that blissey tend to run tera grass/water for kyogre

jagged tartan
# sonic cipher https://pokepast.es/546a33d299f416cf How do I make it better?

Off the top of my head I'd suggest

  • Close Combat > Drain Punch on Koraidon; you don't need the recovery if you're dropping your defenses anyway
  • Whirlwind/Thunder Wave > Body Slam; I would personally lean toward the former
  • Thunder Wave > Will O Wisp; I think that leaning more heavily into paralysis as a means of slowing down fast offensive threats to where you can beat them is a solid idea
  • Stealth Rock/Thunder Wave > Calm Mind/Future Sight; I get you want to make Arceus-Fairy super offensively threatening, but you do so at the cost of your matchup against Scale Shot Koraidon. Thunder Wave is a big part of slowing it down. In a similar vein, move all of your SpA invest into HP, as you're going to need a ton of bulk to swallow +2 Tera Fire OPulse Flare Blitz in sun
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oh.

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where is my broken physdef ho-oh aware

rose cargo
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But ye, I think Etern might be good but without it I feel weak asf against stall

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Lorb koraidon doesn’t seem to work versus stall since many stall uses dirge

median geyser
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Tera water specs water spout does 78%

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To blissey

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Or add up sd ndm

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With trickroom

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For both ho and stall

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Although it needs a bit of prediction

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But u can beat most stall w it

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+2 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Photon Geyser vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 271-319 (53.7 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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Eternatus can trade w allat of neutral stuffs

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Compared to Mewtwo

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Due bulk

rose cargo
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And specs kyo doesn’t fit on webs

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Speaking of specs Kyo, stall brings water absorb mons for that shi

median geyser
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U can't win

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Every stall breaker has it's counters

rose cargo
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Well positioned Kyogre still swept tho

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But ye it needs insane positioning

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If blissey tera grass

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Then eternatus can break through

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Koraidon's sun

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Fire blast

median geyser
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But Mewtwo's bulk

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Sucks

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Even on ho u like to switch on ho oh eternatus can tank hits pretty well

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Can someone rate my team and or help me with fixes? Im brand new to showdown and only played pokemon through rom hacks for about a year now.

jagged tartan
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So one

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!pokepaste

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jagged tartan
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And then at that point, I'd just tell you to play a sample team if you're brand new to playing competitive Pokemon

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hard lagoon
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i need help fixing this team

median geyser
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Change it to necrozoma dusk mane

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Demon set

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Iron defense calm mind

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The evs on Arceus seems like a waste

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Go max hp

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And max attack

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Make koraidon scale shot it's the best set on screens

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U can probably replace zacian for kyurem as koraidon will does similar role as kyurem

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And replace ho oh with ditto got speed control

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Ho oh with screens is a waste

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And ho oh don't fit hyper offense alone

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zac > ho-oh. i'd say sub zac is the way to go here. sd sub blade wildcharge, max attack and speed w jolly

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etern > lugia, you need a special presence. life orb is fine w tera fire

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i would personally change ekiller to ddance groundceus instead of using ekiller

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make koraidon sd life orb

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and change grimm to the dex set

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yoo anyone got a ubers team w mewtwo or any team in general i can try

polar orbit
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Mewtwo is sadly unviable so yeah not the channel

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Miraidon getting banned helped it.

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It also decimates stall so that’s fun.

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Np boosted lorb psystrike also one taps Ho-Oh, but koraidon still is a nuisance for it.

polar orbit
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Damn but grimsnarl might also be a problem

rose cargo
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Have fun, beware of the occasional kingambit team and you should be all good.

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For kingambit you can try to bait it in with arc fairy (not likely, since they don’t like taking boosted judgments.

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Or just preserve koraidon and hope you win.

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You can also go use boots koraidon, since arc fairy baits in Ho-Oh very easily

pine knot
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thanks

cinder fox
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but also m2 is p bad, its speed tier falls short of korai and zac, it's frail, and even its supposed role as a stallbreaker doesn't really hold up when stall runs darks a lot

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for example ttar

pine knot
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thanks oreo

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I made this team today, ngl its my first time and its got a lot of my favourite pokemon. I'd like some help wtih it I don't wanna remove lucario salamence or empoleon
Thanks

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cinder fox
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no mons on here are remotely viable, you're better off looking at tier resources and using samples instead

gentle reef
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Theres no AG tier within the discord?

gentle reef
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My goat thank you sm