Ubers

[ebon plume]

But yeah lol

[twilit quiver]

Maybe not agility but ya

idm haha

[ebon plume]

Also sd kingambit real on ho?

Oh fire lmao

[twilit quiver]

It’s pretty good for opposing HO

TR calyrex stuff

[ebon plume]

Does it even approach 1 shotting caly-i

Ig Kowtow -> Sucker and then you have the speed advantage vs other stuff

[twilit quiver]

Well you have to weaken it as it sets up TR

[ebon plume]

Fair enough lol

TR Caly is a fucking monster for the HO matchup

Lol

[jade delta]

What does SD mean? (mb I’m not used to all the acronyms and abbreviations yet 😭)

And what’s TR too?

[twilit quiver]

ah sorry, SD = Swords Dance
TR = Trick Room

[jade delta]

Ah, thx

[rose cargo]

You should use the SD scale shot set, as that is definitely the better option than a set with an adamant nature and no boosting.
At the very least you are using real pokemon, so that’s great.

[broken berry]

New to this stuff, any feedback is helpful

[fast iron]

You should post your teams using https://pokepast.es/

But other than that, I do see some simple mistakes, like no nature on Necrozma, no fourth move on Miraidon, and Zacian not having maximum speed.

I don't think Dragapult is viable, but if you insist on using it then it needs maximum speed to not get outsped and dunked on

Trick room on Necrozma is not a good choice since it is the only thing that can take advantage of it. TR teams typically have multiple setters and abusers but here, only Necrozma seems to fit that bill

[broken berry]

Hm okay

Ill look into my mistakes

Ty

[rose cargo]

TR on necrozma is totally fine even if you are not going for a full trick room team, instead it’s a very good way to beat offense or a wincon.
It’s sometimes also paired with calyrex ice to create a Anti offense core, but tldr you don’t have to be a TR team to viably run TR NDM

[lone galleon]

https://pokepast.es/e83cb37b5f83b881
my team
how is it

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

not good at all; sneasler and ceruledge have absolutely no niche and the sets on every other Pokemon is suboptimal at best

you should check the Ubers resources

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[lone galleon]

ceruledge cant use tidy up so idk, sneasler i use focus sash item for little tank with its fake out move

https://pokepast.es/bcccf6c69180c2ef

i changed it

[lone galleon]

now i keep winning matches when battling randoms

[lone galleon]

https://pokepast.es/a3bfd4f7344c061b

this is good enough

[fossil dust]

https://pokepast.es/6d21bf9c86e3300d

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lime prairie]

I’d go fairy ho-oh and maybe poison ting for tspikes

And sunsteel > iron head

I think dd > rocks and rocks on ting is also an option to have some form of offensive pressure

Since this team is passive af

Then slap some speed on ndm if it’s dd

P standard tho so it’s not bad

[daring fjord]

This is a National Dex Ubers team which go in #1060037469472555028

However, this team does not look viable at all in NDUbers as the only viable mons are Lando-T, Gholdengo, and Mega Lucario, who even then are rather niche.
I recommend taking a look at the format's sample teams to gain knowledge of the metagame before building your own.

[shut skiff]

National Dex Ubers (Gen 9)

• Sample Teams
• Teambuilding Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Viability Rankings
• C&C Forum

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[rose cargo]

You don’t have any idea on what’s viable, right? Sneasler is extremely niche, and terapagos is just ass… take a look at the sample teams to get an idea…

And why the hell are you running physical brave Miraidon???

Wtfff?

Outrage Miraidon is not something that is acceptable

Trust me

[daring fjord]

Beef can you please stop being so rude during rates

[rose cargo]

Kek

Just lost my mind when I saw outrage Miraidon, sorry for the little rant

[rose cargo]

Anyways, how is this thing going? If you can, maybe turn this into true monoboots for the memes?

https://pokepast.es/72e0365fab8016e1

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

Ditched Miraidon because ground types annoying

I’ve also been having problems with my own NDM, cuz I really wanna get a win with ddance.

[cinder fox]

Fairyceus > ekiller, idt ekiller is that great here and you really want another defensive korai answer

[rose cargo]

Tysm, Mr Oreo

No monoboots for me lol

[rose cargo]

Damn guys, I can’t beat stall… or did I just play like shit?

Koraidon gets wrecked by hazards and same for fairyceus

[potent hound]

Haven’t played in years

https://pokepast.es/1203a5ec60ece135

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude turtle]

Just make lugia a ground like arceus ground or ting lu, make ho oh physdef and then ur fine

[potent hound]

Thanks

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/5a9a9bdca3ca356d
To whoever that gets the references, tell them I love them.
Anyways I wanna build a HO team with chadgambit, any tips?

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

I lose when I miss edge

L to me

[tender coyote]

I’ve tested this Pecharunt team and it’s really fun to use if you pivot Gliscor with toxic spikes and hex. But is it good?

https://pokepast.es/208adfc9055390b2

[rose cargo]

Not at all, all your sets are unviable and idk why wouldn’t you just slap the bikes on your team

Assault vest Ho-Oh is not real

You need boots or else you die to the rocks

Especially in this generation, where hazard removal is scarce

I don’t see why would you need protect on calyrex

This is not vgc

[rose cargo]

Second of all, why are you going to run a minus speed nature when you are running speed EVs?

2 of your mons are unviable, and all of them are running the wrong sets.

[rose cargo]

I know you are autistic (as said in the profile) I am too but please don’t take my words too personally, I am just pointing things out.

Easiest way to learn how to teambuild is to check the sample teams, they are very good examples on what a good team looks like.

!samples

Never mind idk what was the command

[tender coyote]

Ok I’m gonna rapid fire this

[tender coyote]

I kinda wanted to try to make a bulkier team so boosting ho-oh’s assault vest

[tender coyote]

I honestly thought i would need that

[tender coyote]

So I should switch calyrex’s boots

[rose cargo]

Wdym, there is no item clause here

[tender coyote]

Reccomended ev Saving sets

[rose cargo]

They are trash.

[tender coyote]

It’s apparently Ubers viable on showdown

[rose cargo]

How? Pecharunt is not.

[tender coyote]

Thanks but I’m also a dumbass when it comes to team building

[rose cargo]

Ursaluna had a tiny niche in TR but this is not Tr

[tender coyote]

It kind of is idk

[rose cargo]

Anyways, would it be fine if I dm you?

[tender coyote]

I’m on Gen 9 Ubers and it works

[tender coyote]

Yeah that’s good

[rose cargo]

You must be on low ladder then

Low ladder is super fake

[daring fjord]

Its C- on the VR, so viable but incredibly niche and probably doesn't belong on a comp like this, but please do not just straight up lie when rating a team.

[twilit quiver]

saying a mon in the absolute lowest spot on the VR isn't viable isn't really lying

that's a bit of a stretch

it's certainly not viable for a beginner

[daring fjord]

if it were the lowest spot then it would be D tho

but I'm not the ubers rater so idk

[primal nest]

https://pokepast.es/10c57402e5738594
somewhat experimental adv team

worried about monotias

potentially about clops getting worn down too

i'm considering faster bi for lastmon subcm hooh

grass would be nice to fit on bi as well if i can

in theory lugia + bi should be enough vs subcm hooh and potentially monotias

[next scroll]

https://pokepast.es/35e25805bef9204e
Kinda getting hang of it with this, although I’m kinda clueless when it comes to evs. Made it based on other teams I’ve seen, outside of Terapagos who is currently my favorite.

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[proven garden]

https://pokepast.es/ef083cb7d74bb9fb
pretty new to ubers and would like to get some thoughts on this

[rose cargo]

Ho-Oh is an amazing Pokemon, in fact, one of my favorites when building. However it does not fit on hyper offense like this one. This team is using all of the real Pokemon so I heavily appreciate that.

Neither does choice items work on HO.

Or fits well.

Personally like Wp over Lum berry, since you are gonna click Tera fire on most anyways.
Plus it’s hard to get the needed boosts without it.

And another specs user is redundant

[proven garden]

i see

should i run scarf flutter with +spa to outspeed the bikes?

[proven garden]

what should i replace ho-oh with?

[rose cargo]

No bruh

Most flutter uses speed booster plus specs

[proven garden]

ah

i see

[rose cargo]

I dunno why people love a 50 speed boost plus 30 offense boost when you have an option that gives 50 speed boost and 50 offense boost

Feels like OU roaring moon damn

Anyways

Try scale shot koraidon

[proven garden]

i think maybe because its better to not be locked in to a move on those sets

[proven garden]

instead of flutter?

[rose cargo]

And TR NDM does not work very well on webs

[rose cargo]

Yea

[proven garden]

i'll change it to dd

[rose cargo]

Either replace NDM with the ddance set or replace it with Zacian-C, I like the former for matchup into the glorious Big Stall.

And for miraidon, try the double dance set or CM set.

[proven garden]

ok

https://pokepast.es/e3675aed5ca7f9ac

this is what it looks like now

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

Wrong sets

And replace Ho-Oh

[proven garden]

offensive dd for ndm?

[rose cargo]

Yea offensive

This is Ho after all

[proven garden]

but what would i change ho-oh for though?

[rose cargo]

Zacian-C

[proven garden]

ok

[rose cargo]

Then the team will be better, but further improvement will have to wait for the raters.

[proven garden]

yeah

thank you though!

[rose cargo]

Also don’t mane ndm 0 speed when running ddance

Make*

[proven garden]

do you have a set for zacian?

[proven garden]

almost forgot about that ty

[rose cargo]

Just try the standard swords dance set

Wild charge, behemoth blade / play rough, close combat swords dance.

[proven garden]

ok

that'll work

[rose cargo]

Max speed and attack with jolly nature (or adamant if you want on webs)

Actually don’t run adamant

Just run jolly or else scarf koraidon and miraidon will get you

[frigid palm]

im coming back to ubers after a good while

can you still make a great team using specs miraidon

[rose cargo]

Yes, but it’s prediction reliant

The most used set rn is the boots pivot set

[frigid palm]

closely followed by scarf i think

[rose cargo]

Also idk this is the channel for rates.

[rose cargo]

No

[frigid palm]

yeah ik, i was gonna send a paste

[rose cargo]

Scarf is considered to be bad on most teams

[proven garden]

https://pokepast.es/6b68d8ab46df3727

[rose cargo]

Except a few of them

[frigid palm]

but it wiped my time when i reset pc

[proven garden]

this is the team now

[frigid palm]

thats... a development

can we continue this in #comp-general

[rose cargo]

Don’t forget Tera types.

[rose cargo]

K

[proven garden]

yup, thank you for the help!

[lime fractal]

who wanna battle me

showdown

[rose cargo]

Wrong channel

[fossil dust]

https://pokepast.es/3248fc5e533b268b

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[mellow stream]

https://pokepast.es/dbc1b382c2c7f3dc

[rose cargo]

Hello, half your team is not Ubers

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/d8640b029b3ed59b

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

Arceus with both thunder wave and wisp was so fun

Necrozma miiiight be better with ddance but I wanted to have a bit of anti offense stuff

Ho-Oh is evd to always oneshot miraidon for full with Tera eq

From*

But the rest of the evs are kinda just random, with 48 speed creeping 4 Spe gliscor

Idk I just don’t like it when I don’t have a move to click vs it’s usual checks

Ndm and Ho-Oh

So arc has two status moves, tho rocks could work idk

I’ll wait for yall to be here

(This is also a potential gym team)

[steep tulip]

The 6 can definitely work but idk why your Fairy is no attacking move

[rose cargo]

Oh wait I forgor

[rose cargo]

It was a misclick, just imagine that it’s judgment

[gilded sphinx]

hey, i have no real experience with teambuilding but i'm still trying to get some results in smogon, has anyone got a cool and powerful team to share ?

[rose cargo]

Wrong channel.
Ask in general maybe idk.

Tho depending on the format I can help ya with a bit of the basics

Or maybe not

[gilded sphinx]

Its for Ubers that’s why I post here

@rose cargo

[rose cargo]

This is the RMT channel

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[steep tulip]

here you go

just grab a sample team

[empty bridge]

https://pokepast.es/fc1954bf199fa73e

Took a break from building Ubers but had the urge to play again
Might be a little rusty but I like the core of this

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[empty bridge]

Now that I think of it, pivot Miraidon might be better here idk what yall think

If we keep this set then I usually like Stellar to OHKO most NDM while keeping the roll on Ting-Lu

But lmao

[lost tendon]

Howdy could someone in here help me with my Ubers team? It has some holes that I can’t figure out how to cover

[empty bridge]

If the team's already got 6 members and you need advice, post it here

If you need to build it from scratch, go #comp-general and we can work on it

[lost tendon]

I’m running deoxys attack, Ursuline blood moon, roaring moon, skarmory and regeleki

Thanks I’m new here, so still learning all the channel

[empty bridge]

Dw

To be honest though, I don't think these Pokémon are viable in the current Ubers tier

Except Deoxys-A

[jagged tartan]

!pokepaste

[shut skiff]

PokePaste is the easiest way to share competitive teams with other people online. Simply upload your team to the site and you can share your team by sharing the link in your browser!

To upload a team to PokePaste directly from Pokemon Showdown, scroll to the bottom of the team and press the button that says Upload to PokePaste.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1158775180735291453/pokepaste1.png?ex=651d78fc&is=651c277c&hm=5d0b952a78e50b944a63f5e16a9006dffbf6f8fe900cede444f1c65b965a064a&

You can then take the link of the PokePaste and share that link to share the team with other people.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1158775180492013660/pokepaste2.png?ex=651d78fc&is=651c277c&hm=2d3caf4b912c30f438c896f0b696d9c80bd50d9e5a4a8ed067bca9e5dbf6ff3c&

[empty bridge]

Since you said you're new, I'd recommend checking out sample teams and tier resources

It's usually the best way for a new person to start teambuilding, in a few weeks you get the grasp of the meta and learn to make your own stuff

No one starts off knowing it all lol

[lost tendon]

Gotcha thanks!

[empty bridge]

Np, and good luck lol

[lost tendon]

Ty ty

https://pokepast.es/37d5881c5c3ffee2

I think thats the teams paste?

[rose cargo]

May I know why are you running all these unviable pokemon?
Blaziken is completely outclassed by koraidon.
Skarmory only fits on some structures.
Roaring moon is not viable here.
Despite being labled as Ubers, ursaluna isn’t viable here, and neither is the set you are running.
Regieleki is bad.
Koraidon miraidon and ndm and all of them are right there, your team is gonna get dozed over by any serious team.

I literally see no reason to run blaziken.

[lost tendon]

yep absolutley

[lost tendon]

this is the link right here @rose cargo

I basically just grabbed pokemon to cover the pokemon before its weaknesses

I needed a good ice counter and since skarmory was already a steel type I wanted a fire or fighting type to resist and hit back ice types

[rose cargo]

The only viable pokemon is calyrex ice

In terms of ice types

And the best check is necrozma dusk mane

Why not use it

[lost tendon]

wait hollup you a hypershock fan?

[rose cargo]

Like why

Well yes

[lost tendon]

Massive W

anyways well im used to playing previous generations OU so I dont normally use a lot of legendary pokemon

[rose cargo]

This is Ubers now

Use Ubers

And the real ones

Also I suggest checking out the VR rankings

[lost tendon]

gotcha so what would be a good replacement for blaziken?

[rose cargo]

Koraidon.

But tell me

What kind of team are you aiming for?

Balance? Offense? HO?

And what is icy wind deo doin here?

[lost tendon]

well Im running more of a balanced team I prefer offense but I like having some tanky mons that I can stall out a couple turns for if needed

[rose cargo]

Ok, here are some tips

[lost tendon]

Just to slow a mon down if they set up too much or are to fast for slower team members

[rose cargo]

If you are not running HO or stall ting-Lu is very good.

[lost tendon]

Im familar with stall but whats HO?

[rose cargo]

Hyper offense

[lost tendon]

also is it worth running a fire type to take advantage of koriadons ability?

[rose cargo]

Basically a suicide lead like deoxys speed and 5 sweepers

[lost tendon]

thats what I figured

[rose cargo]

No, not in this meta unless Offensive Ho-Oh

Or defensive works too

Speaking of Ho-Oh

[lost tendon]

gotcha

[rose cargo]

It can be a powerful offensive threat with offensive sets

While also being a semicheck to calyrex-s with its bulk

Oh wait

Wait wait wait

[lost tendon]

Gotcha are trick room teams big in this meta?\

[rose cargo]

Sorry no calyrex-S

[rose cargo]

No, in fact they are really gone after basculegion

[rose cargo]

I forgot this isn’t AG

[lost tendon]

oh yeah I remember doing pretty good with him in doubles

I was thinking of making a ran dance team with basculegion

[rose cargo]

Anyways You really need a check to miraidon if not running HO

[rose cargo]

Basculegion got its best move banned in Ubers

[lost tendon]

which move was it last respects?

[rose cargo]

Koraidon sun is everywhere

Yes

There are many mons in the tier each doing different things

[lost tendon]

So do you think I should just rebuild my team from the ground up or just sub in better pokemon to replace the current team members

[rose cargo]

And I suggest using Necrozma dusk mane over skarm on this team

[rose cargo]

By subbing it’s pretty much building from ground up if I did

[lost tendon]

oh yeah your right 99% of the team isnt ubers

[rose cargo]

This isn’t past gens anymore unfortunately, and legendary teams run rampant.
I personally like this tho

[lost tendon]

I feel like thats fitting for ubers

I do wish regualar pokemon were still viable

are psuedos worth touching at all?

[rose cargo]

Not at all

[lost tendon]

yikes has the power creep really been that extreme recently?

[rose cargo]

Ubers had been like this since years ago ago

[lost tendon]

oh I couldve sworn garchomp t tar and a couple others were ubers for a couple generations

[rose cargo]

Gf don’t know what were they doin with Zac

[lost tendon]

zacian is a demon

[rose cargo]

Ttar was great in early Gen Ubers

[lost tendon]

glad they nerfed it

[rose cargo]

Chomp was banned in dpp

[lost tendon]

I am very sad with the greninja nerf

oh it was?

[rose cargo]

I actually don’t

lol

[lost tendon]

The attack boost every entry was terrifying

but I understand why thats also a thing people would miss

[rose cargo]

Anyways

[lost tendon]

wish they would buff my boy goodra

[rose cargo]

Ttar had niches in past gen Ubers

And was great in the earlier ones

[lost tendon]

yep wasnt the weather nerf a big hit to him

[rose cargo]

Well not really in Ubers as kyogre and groudon are still there to compete

[lost tendon]

oh yeah, speaking of which are they still meta atm?

[rose cargo]

Groudon is niche today

Kyogre still great

[lost tendon]

is annihilape worth using or did it have one of its moves banned as well

[rose cargo]

It’s ass

Unless stall

[lost tendon]

lmao thats too funny

which team type is the most common? im guessing balance teams

[rose cargo]

BO is pretty good rn

HO isn’t bad either

But this gen is much more offense focused

[lost tendon]

alrighty is it worth using entry hazards?

[rose cargo]

Come back after you finish the teams

[rose cargo]

Yes

[lost tendon]

alr

[rose cargo]

Almost No hazard removal this gen

[lost tendon]

Oh yeah theres only a couple rapid spinners and even less defog pokemon

Alright I got my team of six

[rose cargo]

Send it

[lost tendon]

https://pokepast.es/47e839fa23624bec

no moves yet but

I figured id see if the pokemon look good before I get into the evs and move set

[rose cargo]

Regieleki is bad

Groudon is kinda niche

Ray only fits on HO these days

Steelceus is garbage rn

Deo is hard to use and prediction reliant, so you will need hazard control to prevent it from being picked off by prio

[lost tendon]

ok, So ive been told your team should never have two overlapping types would this be a case where its okay to run dusk mane instead of stelceus?

[rose cargo]

This isn’t always the case

Overlapping types is totally fine

Overlapping weaknesses to a certain mon? Not good.

[lost tendon]

Ohhhhh

so its fine to have 2 or 3 dragon types as long as I had a fire or steel types for dealing with their weakness

not saying im gonna just an example

[rose cargo]

The best fairy types in the tier are fairyceus and zac

Also

Weakness stacking don’t work so simply anymore

[lost tendon]

would you mind elaborating?

[empty bridge]

gonna quote it so it's not lost in time without having to ping again

[somber burrow]

I need help with my pixelmon team

(Pixelmon doesn't have tera, so ignore that. Also I can't do megas)

The #1 thing pressing me is hazards, I have no magic bounce or hazard cleaners

i was thinking maushold 4 but it feels gimmicky

[daring fjord]

We don't rate Pixelmon, we only help with Smogon formats

[somber burrow]

its pokemon

literally the same thing

the only thing im missing is tera types

just pretend its gen 8

[primal nest]

probably use a sample then imo

[heady minnow]

https://pokepast.es/039c182d12a917de

My fault just saw the other channel

[rose cargo]

What’s the reason for Thunderbolt lol

[heady minnow]

Oh Shi that was a misclick 😭

[winter sedge]

theres a difference

pixelmons battle engine is abhorrent

play cobblemon instead its sovl and uses showdown as the battle base

and its fucking pixelmon why are you making a competitive team

unless youre playing on some losers p2w server and want to play in a tournament

[somber burrow]

I wanna go to the WZ

[winter sedge]

the what now

[somber burrow]

warzone

its like you can force people to fight you

and loser gets one poke stolen

[winter sedge]

sounds kino actually

oh shit anarchy?

but are there p2w elements

crates and whatnot

[somber burrow]

but the good part of the wz is that legends spawn

very often

[somber burrow]

Alot of p2w

like alot alot alot

[winter sedge]

oh

shouldnt have gotten my hopes up

if it was cobblemon perhaps i'd consider

whats it called

[gentle reef]

https://pokepast.es/f8d8a30f61bb9d79 can anyone rate?

[lime vine]

i need opinions + good moves and items for the mons (kinda new to ubers)

[rose cargo]

absolutely unviable so thats a thing for you, incin is the vgc king but def not the Ubers mon.

[lime vine]

what would you recommend i swap with

[oblique trellis]

That is not what this thread is for

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[oblique trellis]

You check out sample teams here

[quasi spade]

Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA
Modest Nature

• Discharge
• Volt Switch
• Draco Meteor
• Electro Drift

Incineroar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Atk / 28 Def / 160 SpD
Careful Nature

• Fake Out
• U-turn
• Knock Off
• Flare Blitz

Farigiraf @ Electric Seed
Ability: Armor Tail
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 1 HP
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Helping Hand
• Tera Blast
• Trick Room
• Foul Play

Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 1 HP
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Tailwind
• Encore
• Protect

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon @ Life Orb
Ability: Mind's Eye
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 1 HP
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hyper Voice
• Earth Power
• Protect
• Blood Moon

Ogerpon-Cornerstone @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 1 HP

• Ivy Cudgel
• Power Whip
• Follow Me
• Spiky Shield

Need some assistance with EV's would anyone mind assisting me? (or showing me the right place to ask/ find out. I am a bit new sorry)

[rose cargo]

why are you using follow me in singles

[rose cargo]

there is a vgc rates section, Ubers is not VGC

[fossil dust]

https://pokepast.es/4fa45c617b8c4af3

opinions?

:palpico:

[steep tulip]

idk why we no longer get tags for these

anyways

[steep tulip]

slow arceus formes are borderline useless cause you start losing to opposing arceus super hard

lest it's sth that doesn't aim to check a single arceus forme which this does

don't do pursuit solo dark move on leadtar, idk what the dex says half of the dex sets are beyond horrible

drop knock off for power whip on ferro, get something on the team that doesn't suck ass switching into opposing ferro (maybe just roar on max speed ghosty over refresh) and make ogre stalk

ice beam does nothing to lati@s/dialga so no reason to run it

[lime vine]

https://pokepast.es/ed4f3a3a27e608ce updated doubles team

[rose cargo]

this place is for singles

[rose cargo]

and uh

[lime vine]

oh damn is there a doubles one?

[rose cargo]

wth are you doing with sd miraidon?

[lime vine]

like i said im kinda new so i got no clue

[rose cargo]

and you also forgot that different tera types exist

but idk doubles ubers is a really niche format

[lime vine]

i forgot to even do that #

[rose cargo]

there is prolly a place for this but this isnt the place

[lime vine]

ah alright

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/c459c1ad3f52ea11
The eternatus set is temporary and totally random, so id love it if somebody can help me with it. Otherwise uhhh Im trying to build with offensive Ho-Oh, anybody or is one whirlwind user not enough? Also im getting completely destroyed by hyper offense…

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

Its been a while since i last played Ubers as i was mainly invested in AG. But idk

[twilit quiver]

I feel like this wants Gliscor > Ting-Lu and WW on Ho-Oh

you don't really have a comfortable knock absorber once hazards go up

[rose cargo]

hm

gliscor time it is.

but whirlwind over recover? Or over earthquake?

[twilit quiver]

EQ probably yeah

I do have like this exact same build

https://pokepast.es/67bf1251d27691eb

[rose cargo]

dragon dance waterceus…. So i keep the offensive spread?

or should i just go eith defensive Ho-Oh instead

or maybe just send over the updated team with offensive Ho-Oh.

[twilit quiver]

defensive to compensate for dropping lu

[rose cargo]

hm

https://pokepast.es/bf8e30dc4f9a5905 this is the updated team, miraidon looking a bit scary to switch around…

also eternatus still needs a real spread

any ideas?

Might want a bit of spa investment

[lime prairie]

ting was fine this team is kinda farmed by mirai

I'd put ghost on korai or etern, not a huge fan of the etern set

standard tspikes is just defensive faster than arc w tspikes toxic dynamax recover

or you can go offensive w like 3a type stuff I like that set

[rose cargo]

hmmm? good idea.

ill change that

[potent hound]

https://pokepast.es/cee25e50c0c9a86a

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[potent hound]

Hyper offense I think

And sun

https://pokepast.es/8a7deb8c23381055 changed it up a bit

[rose cargo]

Chi yu isn’t really great, it does fit on some specific teams but not this one.

Flutter is kind of niche too, and without power gem it’s walled by Ho-oh

Full sun is not viable in Ubers rn

They usually just bring Ho-Oh and then a few moves that benefit from sun

Zacian needs wild charge or else walled by Ho-Oh

Tusk is usable sorta as a koraidon check, but mostly still unviable

Arceus generally uses some speed investment

Yeah this team isn’t great

Still better than a full team of low tier mons I’ve seen before.

[potent hound]

Alrighty Tysm

[potent hound]

What do I use to get rid of hazards

[potent hound]

Flutter in sun is kinda what inspired me to make the team in the first place lmao

[rose cargo]

You don’t, run tons of boots.
Hazard removal is pretty rare in this tier atm

[potent hound]

Ah okay

[rose cargo]

Or run giratina-o or treads if you want it

[potent hound]

I’ll make a new team idea then

[rose cargo]

Hazard removal isn’t mandatory anymore this gen

[potent hound]

True

[potent hound]

Haven't really played Pokemon since gen 8 and wanted to make a funny Slaking team but I'm actually invested and I think this is a great team

I haven't changed the tera types though except for orthworm

[potent hound]

Nevermind, this was meant to be in ou

But still criticize it and all it's legal

[twilit quiver]

!pokepaste

[shut skiff]

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[twilit quiver]

and you should really look at the viability rankings of whatever format you're playing

there's no tier on earth where this is remotely a good team

not gonna sugar coat it

[potent hound]

I have faith in it

[twilit quiver]

okay sure, but if you come here for competitive advice that's what we're going to give you. If you want to show of your favorite Pokemon that's fine but this isn't the place for that

[potent hound]

I get you don't worry about it, I like throwing people curveballs with my teams

Practicing with it atm and I see some potential, but I lack coverage against some of the metas like flutter mane

[twilit quiver]

kk just letting you know we often don't allow these kinds of teams to be posted here if you're not open to accepting what our raters are meant to provide

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/3009af7417ee48bf
Just got goobed extra hard by trick room ndm after mirai weakened Lu

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

The evs on Ho-Oh always survives silk scarf +2 espeed from arceus

And 48 speed creeps 4 Spe gliscor

It was rainbows and sunshine until ndm and calyrex-ice

Only if I could run as many arcs as I can

[steep tulip]

If you're running offensive hooh you gotta also play aggressively.

The 6 themselves aren't bad but you are gonna have do make concessions sooner or later

You could do dtail on Etern

To try and be more proactive

Around those MUs

If you're looking for a hard answer well you gotta go bulky ho-oh lol

[rose cargo]

Hm

I guess I’ll go and switch the set up then

[heady inlet]

https://pokepast.es/e26be9f10025bb95 this is my first ubers team, Idk what im doing lol

[daring fjord]

Only 2/6 of these mons are viable in Ubers (Deoxys-Speed and Kyogre), since you're new I heavily recommend you try out the sample teams before building your own

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[steep tulip]

ftr this was ADV Ubers

pretty clearly lol

but still a ton is missing from this team and our sample sets are still completely ass for most mons, unfortunately

:/

[daring fjord]

God im fucking dumb

[primal nest]

you need a lati check

i'd use bliss over zapdos

tios should generally be 252 spA 252 spe modest

ogre needs beam over thunder

ludi doesn't need salac, it's fast enough with swim

bp is illegal so celebi should have some other move instead

other than that i think the team is functional

some changes i'd consider are

gar or gross over bi, gives you a spinblocker or a better deoa check

more physdef on ogre, also for deoa

refresh over cm on tios for bliss

you're also hera weak, you can consider a skarm in the celebi slot as well

skarm+gar over deos+bi i think is a more standard version

[ebon plume]

https://pokepast.es/5f7d7866214bce02

This has been doing good tbh but decided to check anyway because I am not confident in myself 👍

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ebon plume]

Edit: I forgot to change Ho-Oh to Regenerator, fixed

[buoyant ruin]

https://pokepast.es/5c6af84a16e3d2af

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lime prairie]

Toxapex doesn’t really fit on this, your team is super offensive you want to just lean into it

Probably just have ribombee there or glimmora

Cb korai wants close combat > collision course and also tera fight, the main appeal of it is that it beats stall / fat with cc

Rest of this is relatively normal, you could go faster offensive ndm on an HO team

And maybe change up sets on the bikes since they’re customizable

But like faster tera ground dd ndm makes the mirai mu a bit easier

[buoyant ruin]

I added toxapex for the bad matchups.

It's a backup

[lime prairie]

it just slows down your team, you can cover most things with just a hazard lead and hitting stuff

[buoyant ruin]

Ight

I mean I've used it a bit and so far I haven't had to much issue-

Seen a shit ton of people just forfeit the minute they see the team

[last pulsar]

https://pokepast.es/8a86d1c8e37fe30d

not rlly meta but thought it was cool

[ebon plume]

1. This is for SV Ubers, NatDex Ubers belongs in the "NatDex Non-OU" channel lol

2. You can play any teams you want, but Rate My Team is exclusively for highly competitive, meta-optimized teams (and asking for advice with for-fun teams is not allowed in this chat lol)

[last pulsar]

oh sorry

[nova rover]

https://pokepast.es/1a283e80d444b824
any suggestions? this is a rain team in which i don't allow legendaries in

[rose cargo]

bruva rule 6

!nolegends

[shut skiff]

See rule 6 of #1030567099703242903 message

[nova rover]

i can't see the channel it just says #unknown
edit: nvm i see it now

[rose cargo]

however, if you really want, i can help in private, though dont expect too much from this arbitrary format

[nova rover]

alright

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 7)

No resources found

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[nova rover]

https://pokepast.es/b8f34eb7862801f6
is there anything i should add to this team? i'm not entirely sure if it breaks rule 6 due to it being specific on being based of archie's oras team

[buoyant ruin]

Thought it would be fun to go back into Gen 7
https://pokepast.es/9c2bf47707e9155f

[daring fjord]

This is unviable and requires a complete rework

Also #1060037469472555028 is where you go for ND Ubers

[rose cargo]

the best wat to use this team is to just throw it away

like why the heck are u using his team lmao

[rose cargo]

what was the reasoning for the relaxed nature on groudon?

and i usually see attack investment on pdon whenever we use sd

[buoyant ruin]

I wanted to invest more into Groudon's bulk rather than his attack since his attack is already really high and I felt heightening it anymore would be a bit over kill

[rose cargo]

Swords dance sets usually run an adamant nature

To nuke the usual defensive counterplay

[buoyant ruin]

Ight, I'll try using a different moveset on it to work better with the stat spread

[rose cargo]

+2 252+ Atk Groudon-Primal Precipice Blades vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zygarde: 346-408 (82.3 - 97.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes

Just an example

But I’d assume maximum investment isn’t really needed anyways

[buoyant ruin]

Was thinking about swapping precipice blades out for something else due to it's low accuracy

I mean 85% isn't horrible but I have insanely bad luck on accuracy-

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/faacb83795de53cd
Seriously fuck webs I loathe it and I wanna screw over all of the users.
Anyways, did I cook?

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[twilit quiver]

you could drop outrage for Dual Wingbeat on Korai

for an OHKO on Ribombee

[rose cargo]

hey thats actually pretty cool

[robust wasp]

kinda just wanted a regieleki sweep team

[rose cargo]

bro must really hate the good ol days of no boots

oh and regieleki is trash

not a single set is viable here, go check out the sample teams if you are new

[robust wasp]

Alr thx

[robust wasp]

I just couldn't tell if it was bad or not cuz low ladder

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/83437ab77d065f3a
Ok for real this time fuck webs, and dual wingbeat koraidon is kinda MU fish so can anybody help me with this team?

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

I once used Tera psychic photon geyser for the nuke unintentionally because I forgot to change

But looking back it might as well be legit?

Which tells me that Tera ground caly could be too maybe? But anyways I am having a problem koraidon which isn’t good at all

[forest acorn]

can someone rate my team?

https://pokepast.es/8caf59e9cfaed8b4

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

this isn't really good at all for Ubers standards; you are not covering a lot of different high-tier threats defensive nor can you break the standards threats found in the metagame. Pokemon like Tsareena and Ceruledge might seem to have a niche because in paper they can check something like Arceus and Koraidon but in practice they really don't. I'll have to link you to our tier resources to see what is good.

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[steep tulip]

gonna sidestep the Groundceus EVs cause I assume you have a reason behind them

What are we aiming to do with this team cause the issue of Scale Shot Koraidon remains prominent here lol

and ofc Specs Miraidon is a threat yada yada

[rose cargo]

groundceus is more invested in bulk to take on miraidon, and other threats

but the exact uses for the spreads i think i gotta ask donbonjones because he was the one who passed over the set

but yes scale shot koraidon is a problem and might have to go defensive on Ho-Oh to deal with it

[rose cargo]

Oh and update

I changed the groundy set

[rose cargo]

what kind of niche does quag fullfill?

[silver dragon]

and more

[normal rampart]

doubles uber team for scarlet violet is it good?

[rose cargo]

First of all, this team is completely unviable, second of all, idk if this is the place for dubers

[exotic dew]

This is a team I cooked up for gen 9 ubers doubles, I am aware that most are non ubers but I would still like some improvements I could make aside from that glaring issue, I think i need more coverage to deal with electric types but Not sure where to add. Also, I have no experience with tera types whatsoever so I presume thatll be where I make most changes 😭

If I had to change one thing rn I would change aqua jet on urshifu to something else

[exotic dew]

Played quite a few matches today and Ive been having decent results, quite low in ladder though

[steep tulip]

soz king you're more likely to get help in the DOU channel than in here

[rose cargo]

Bro thinks he’s playing vgc, and why are you not using Ubers?

[exotic dew]

I just cooked up a team that I wanted to use and since it has some ubers in I have to be in the ubers format

[rose cargo]

Just go all out on Ubers, you are missing all sorts of stuff like calyrex formes and bikes

They are really good and you should use them

Also, this looks like a vgc team to me ngl

Just a regulation not called reg g and reg H

[exotic dew]

I tried to choose ones exclusively from ubers and OU while also liking them

[rose cargo]

…

This team is completely unviable

Almost everything here is just outclassed

[exotic dew]

Ill make some changes

calyrex does look cool ill try em out

[rose cargo]

You need more than just calyrex

You need other Ubers as well.

Also I’m pretty sure doubles formats have their own place

[exotic dew]

whats bikes?

[rose cargo]

Koraidon, miraidon

[exotic dew]

I tried looking but couldnt, theres DOU but no Dubers

[exotic dew]

I see

[rose cargo]

Kyogre, groudon, etc

Necrozma dusk mane and more staples

[frozen wigeon]

Hello everyone 👋

[pearl stratus]

https://pokepast.es/3da37d97d6d2bec5

made this team for national dex ubers

is it any good?

[ebon plume]

For further reference, National Dex Ubers is in #1060037469472555028 lol

But sadly, this team is straight up unviable

The only viable Pokémon here is the Salamence, and in a different structure

I'd recommend going for samples to get to know the meta first, and then teambuild when you're at least a little acquaintanced

[pearl stratus]

well that sucks

thanks for the help though

i’ll remember to post my next natdex ubers pokepaste in the right channel next time

[ebon plume]

Dw about it, and gl

[spice solstice]

Hi I made this team and I’ve won some games in showdown but idk if it’s that good https://pokepast.es/1a51f444deef3f8d

It’s for doubles Ubers

[zealous panther]

if you want dubers rates you should post it in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1060682530094862477, this is for singles ubers

[raven prawn]

O ok

[south wraith]

https://pokepast.es/0a38cf7760d26fc7

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

let's see

gimme thought process behind the team and mon choices

[south wraith]

idk

ig its a balanced team

so first is glimmora with stealth rocks

if the others also use stealth rocks or spikes, etc

glimmora will use mortal spin

and will toxic the opponents

• with the ability that uses toxic spikes

now comes the gholdengo

it mainly has the trick move which to a ground type

i will talk abt that grund type pokemon when i talk abt my dragonite

so bascially if there is a ground or dragon type with any weakness move, it will kill the gholdengo

dragonite

dragonite will have the item heavy duty boots

i e means dragonite immune to gruond moves,

that time ill use dragon dance twice

then most likely the opponent will switch to a dragon type

that time ill terastilze my dragonite into a fairy type

and use outrage to all of the pokemon

now toxapex is a defensive pokemon

it s main use in the team is to use hex

and zacian also used to remove all the dragon types

cuz its op

@steep tulip

[steep tulip]

I am in the middle of something apologies

I'll check back in a moment

[south wraith]

ok sorry to disturb you

[steep tulip]

sorry work got busy

[south wraith]

np

[steep tulip]

if I am being honest this team is all over the place; glimorra is essentially an HO or at best a BO only Pokemon because you wanna go fast and hard with taking advantage of its t-spikes and other hazards; however there's a toxapex on the team which doesn't accomplish much, if anything, for the team. Moreover, pretty much the entire team is fodder for opposing miraidon with your best answer being your own, AV miraidon, which if you trade teras with the opposing Mirai you still don't come out ontop.

[south wraith]

ok

[steep tulip]

Dragonite has absolutely no niche in the tier, either as it's not the best extreme speed user and just adds the weaknesses of a dragon-type in a tier with MUCH better dragons in Korai/Mirai/Kyurem-B

[south wraith]

whats HO and BO

[steep tulip]

AV Miraidon is also not the best because it doesn't do what you want miraidon to do but is instead forced to try and trade (mostly unfavorably)

Hyper offense and bulky offense

[south wraith]

ok

so i need to change mirai, dragonite, toxpex

[steep tulip]

final nail in the coffin is from using Gholdengo on a team that isn't fat enough to support it in an attempt to keep hazards up (there's no removal in the tier save for glimmora, which comes down to speed-ties and Iron treads which comfortably beats gholdengo)

[south wraith]

thats actually faxs my mirai is not doing what i want it to do

[steep tulip]

I think you need to familiarize yourself a lil' bit more with the tier and how it operates

[south wraith]

ok

[steep tulip]

best way to do so is trying out some sample teams

see how team cohesion works by trying out what's tried and tested

[shut skiff]

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[south wraith]

ok tysm

will get back to u

[honest sand]

Why do u only have 2 uber mons

Glimmora zacc and miraidon are all HO mons

So toxapex doesn't fit here at all

[south wraith]

ok instead toxapex?

[honest sand]

And dnite is just a bad sweeper esp if it's mixed for some reason

[south wraith]

yea ik thth

is draginpult a gud replacement for dnite

[honest sand]

No

Use koraidon

[south wraith]

ok

moveset?

[honest sand]

Koraidon @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Jolly Nature

• Scale Shot
• Swords Dance
• Flare Blitz
• Low Kick

[south wraith]

ok

and a replacement for toxapex

cuz i need a pkmon with hex

[honest sand]

Why

[south wraith]

stat reset

[honest sand]

Do u mean haze

This is HO tho not stall

Ur trying to setup and break through or sweep

Not sit around defensively

[south wraith]

yea

[honest sand]

Miraidon @ Electric Seed / Life Orb
Ability: Hadron Engine
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe
Tera Type: Dragon / Fairy
Modest Nature

• Agility
• Electro Drift / Parabolic Charge
• Dragon Pulse / Dazzling Gleam
• Calm Mind

Use this over

Assualt Vest miraidon

[south wraith]

ok

[honest sand]

Cuz u need to setup and stuff

[honest sand]

Eternatus @ Power Herb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 168 HP / 252 SpA / 88 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Fire / Dragon
Modest Nature

• Agility
• Meteor Beam
• Dynamax Cannon
• Fire Blast

[south wraith]

this instead of?

which pk

[honest sand]

Pex

[south wraith]

ok

gholdengo?

is tht fine

[honest sand]

I'd get rid of gholdengo too but it's up to u what u wanna replace it with

An arceus forme would be nice

Like arceus ground

Or extreme killer arceus

[south wraith]

idk

i ll go with wht u say

[honest sand]

Arceus-Ground @ Earth Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 124 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Adamant Nature

• Dragon Dance
• Earthquake
• Stone Edge
• Taunt

I'd just go with this

[south wraith]

tera type?

[honest sand]

Griund

[south wraith]

grounf

[honest sand]

Ground

[south wraith]

ok

[south wraith]

but flare blitz has recoil

is tht fine?

[honest sand]

The power is way more important than recoil

[south wraith]

oh k

[honest sand]

Esp since after scale shot nothing can rlly revenge kill you except scarf miraidon/koraidon (which is a speed tie) and priority users

[south wraith]

ok

[honest sand]

And the extreme Speed is nullified by tera ghost anyways

[south wraith]

ok

https://pokepast.es/769d2e70a9ca8c0b

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[south wraith]

@honest sand

[honest sand]

Replace earth power on glimmora with memento and tera grass with tera ghost

Change eternayus to a Timid Nature

Other than that looks solid to me

[south wraith]

ok

[honest sand]

Oh tera fighting koriadon to tera ghost

[south wraith]

start with glimm

then

[honest sand]

Also why is miraidon the pivot set with electric sees

[south wraith]

u said tht

[honest sand]

It should be double dance with agility and calm mind

[honest sand]

.

No volt switch here

[steep tulip]

what happened here

[honest sand]

:3

[honest sand]

Actually now that I think abt it

Ur caly MU is questionable at best

[south wraith]

wht caly?

ik clayx

[south wraith]

the team is actully gud

[heady adder]

Can someone who speaks Spanish help me?

MD

[south wraith]

https://pokepast.es/86ccd63d2401fb0d

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[south wraith]

ahh

one

[south wraith]

ello

a

[rose cargo]

No wild charge on zacian

Bad

Sacred sword also bad

[crude turtle]

i agree sacred sword is bad but

this may be the single team where no widl charge is fine

and cc is ok

because the other 4 mons all threaten to ohko ho oh

forcing it to tera anyways

[ebon plume]

You really don't need 252 speed on mirai btw

Because you're running Agility

You can get away with as low as 8 speed, but I like 48

To outspeed Ray and Kyurem unboosted, and it's a minor loss

[rose cargo]

We also have seen speed to outpace adamant groundceus

[south wraith]

ok

[kind dome]

https://pokepast.es/d69b4d9da25cd83b

An educated cobbling together of mons, will change anything if need be

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

let's see

god did I put up bodypress arceus

I am a criminal

what's the idea behind the team @kind dome

and why this arceus set + specs m2

[kind dome]

As I said, it was a cobbling together of mons, although balance is my preffered Playstyle if that's a valid Playstyle in ubers

[steep tulip]

oh I didn't put body press, lit!

[kind dome]

Not saying this is a balance twam

[kind dome]

That was me sorry

And I have no experience with the team I made cuz the one game I used it in was a 100% free zacian sweep

[steep tulip]

it's close to balance tbf

you do run into some issues with very common foes like TR caly-i but thankfully that's an easy fix

uhhhh your ho-oh should probably be the defensive set tbh

otherwise you risk losing to koraidon off the rip

you might be able to keep mewtwo? it doesn't offer anything really

[kind dome]

Idc abt mewtwo

[steep tulip]

but it's mewtwo it has an OK enough speed tier

it'd be ever so slightly better as something like pivot miraidon

(heavy-duty boots set from the dex)

and the arceus should probably be iron defense over body press

and maybe even change it to darkceus but I am not TOO attached to that idea

[kind dome]

https://pokepast.es/819841cbd39d01bb

I'm using the sample sets so if anything is wrong pls lemmie know

Team as of now

[steep tulip]

only issue would be that my changes make you more susceptible to stall

[kind dome]

You could completely uproot my team if you wanted aslong as it resembles balance

[steep tulip]

I am thinking to myself rn

if there's a way to consistently break balance

yeah actually it can just be pivot miraidon

@kind dome

iron defense over bpress on arceus

and you should be golden

feel free to experiment w tera types on ho-oh/ting-lu; I'd actually suggest you make ting-lu poison so u can have a t-spike absorber vs stall!

[kind dome]

tyy

Does arc gotta be a type or is normal fine

[rose cargo]

You can consider boots ting lu if you are struggling with Eternatus asw, it just works well for me but lefties helps with longevity. Also idk about the Arceus set outside of stall, but add iron Defense

[signal thunder]

Seems very standard

[signal thunder]

OH on miraidon if needs the extra push

Not a big defesnive normal guy (i have no clue if even worth the boots)

[jovial ginkgo]

https://pokepast.es/6ebbb5dd3c2c83c6 iwant to switch out regieleki but idont know with wat

[signal thunder]

What the

[south wraith]

https://pokepast.es/7efe0c416414fd30

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

You got a HO team without a lead

Lonely nature on arceus is questionable as heck

Actual self sabotage

Offensive ddance ndm doesn’t use boots and you want webs support for this thing to actually do stuff

Instead Lum berry or lorb is probably better if you wanna use it

[south wraith]

for arc?

[rose cargo]

For ndm

[south wraith]

clover cloak

[rose cargo]

It’s definitely usable but it’s best on bulky sets instead, and you are running offensive ddance.

[south wraith]

y no ping

;-;

@shut skiff

https://pokepast.es/52d31286123c4d14

[south wraith]

;-;

@steep tulip

sry to disturv

[steep tulip]

isn't this a sample

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ubers-sample-teams.3736089/page-2#post-10266830 @south wraith

[south wraith]

no i made it before

so its good?

idh to use

[rose cargo]

I seriously don’t get why you need a lonely nature on groundy

[south wraith]

changed it

[rustic siren]

hi https://pokepast.es/f7835b68a4c11fbf

[rose cargo]

First of all

Archaludon is unviable

Clodsire only fits on specific balance teams or stall

Specs kyogre is a usable set yes

But it requires proper support

Like hazard removal, which on many teams can actually be taken out but not really on this one

And ogerpon is unviable

Period

And the zacian set you are using makes no sense, you get walled by Ho-Oh

And psychic fangs is unneeded coverage

Intrepid sword only activates once this generation, so without it, you lack the power to actually break

[rustic siren]

i see

[rose cargo]

And you get walled by Ho-Oh

Yeah

[rustic siren]

im js starting to look into this kinda thing so

im not too educated on everything

[rose cargo]

Your team really doesn’t like koraidon

Scarf koraidon is everywhere

[rustic siren]

ive been dealing w scarfs in soloq

i dont remember if it was koraidon specifically

it mightve been

[rose cargo]

Anyways

I suggest checking out the samples

Because this team gets completely trashed by hazards

And pretty much every single viable team archetype

[rustic siren]

i did look at samples earlier but i js kinda skimmed them

might js take a sample and see what i can do

[rose cargo]

If you want easy elo

Just spam hyper offense

HO imo is the most boring playstyle but it’s effective for the ladder

[rustic siren]

im js trynna start moving away from just spamming buttons without thought to spamming buttons with thought

im really good at pressing buttons

i play splatoon

[rose cargo]

Cool, Rank?

This convo is getting outta topic so we could move to comp general

Or off topic idk

I tried splatoon but I couldn’t get the camera angle

Right

[rustic siren]

off topic but we can keep talking abt the set here

[rose cargo]

Yeah why not

[rustic siren]

so what would u suggest i swap?

[rose cargo]

The entire team, the team has a fringe mon and only 3 viable mons

The rest are unviable and you are only running two viable sets

[rustic siren]

oh 😭

[rose cargo]

One of them is difficult to build around

Another is better with boots because hazards clap

[rustic siren]

i gotchu

ig i js needa look at samples

[rose cargo]

Yeah, and the Vr rankings

[rustic siren]

are those linked in the server?

[rose cargo]

Lemme find it

[rustic siren]

ty ^^

[rose cargo]

!VR Ubers

!Ubers

!ubers

What was the command again?

[rose cargo]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ubers-viability-rankings.3724082/

[rustic siren]

ima save that link

ty i will look at that

[crisp barn]

https://pokepast.es/c5dac958ec6b0b2a

Is this team good?

[twilit quiver]

no

[rose cargo]

Very much not

It seems like you do not know what goes with what stuff

And volc being listed as Ubers doesn’t make it viable bruva

[crisp barn]

I'm still a beginner at building a team

[rose cargo]

Look at the VR rankings

And maybe the sample teams as well

These are helpful

[twilit quiver]

the team starts out solid

[crisp barn]

https://pokepast.es/39d5fd22afac5d17

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crisp barn]

I made some changes to the team

[crude turtle]

honestly

this team is like lowkey

lose

close

just drop volc and pex for actual ubers

[crude turtle]

with grimm u dont need to bring defensive shit

just bring a fuck ton of sweepers like caly-i / ndm / zacian / kyurem-black / miraidon

[rose cargo]

Or orthworm if you really wanna go with some gimmicky fun

[crude turtle]

orthworm is fine

its good on screens

[mystic anchor]

https://pokepast.es/1154233048a6ca1d how easily would i be folded?
LandoT can 2hko full hp Groudon and ofc take reliable hits (Still in doubt if relaxed would be better, impish cant 2hko full hp groudon and risk to lose for heat crash ones)
Haban for dd draco meteor variants of zekron, and zekron normal setup itself ofc
Scarf Caly to guarantee an late game clean
Mixed Zekron to low opposing phys wall threats
Anything else are just the standards
Tests were decent, but stilll dn, cuz even with the strange sets, still ubers yk?
How easily would i be folded

At the end of the day, its a caly-s team, but well, using just standard sets kinda scks

[lime prairie]

While the lando is cool it feels more optimal to just use a normal defensive rocks set then make ndm dd

Being able to free up ndm is a big draw of lando

You aren’t too scared by double dance don w a scarf caly

I don’t like scarf caly but it’s usable if you can support it and zek is probably decent at that

[mystic anchor]

What abt xerneas? Doesnt dd lose to it?

[lime prairie]

If dd loses to it twave does as well without luck

You can run the same spread

[mystic anchor]

Oh

Gotcha

[lime prairie]

Just spdef dd sunsteel knock moonlight

[mystic anchor]

Same spread? Oh gotcha gotcha

Wait, which one is optm, bulky or ofense dd?

For the team

Specially bulk i mean

[lime prairie]

On this bc of the worse etern mu I think spdef dd is better

But you could try an adamant set with a little bulk same moves and still leftovers

[mystic anchor]

Gotcha

So rocks lando, dd spdef necro
Last question
As an only check to groudon, that lando is too bad? Cuz i really liked it xD

[lime prairie]

Strictly to beat offensive don it works

But it doesn’t have much utility overall

Since I can’t imagine earth power does much to spdef dd ndm and it has no rocks for pressure

[mystic anchor]

Understood

And

Really thx

[lime prairie]

np, idk if the bot picks up on non sv teams since I didn’t get a tag from it, feel free to tag me if you have any other questions

[viscid apex]

Need some serious team advice for Ubers

https://pokepast.es/707b6ae89a3ea88c

[rose cargo]

You are using screens

Go with it

Instead of putting defensive mons on the team

They are a momentum sink

The point of screens is to have screens support and setup sweepers

And maybe also hazards like glim but you get the gist

[viscid apex]

So replace clod with glimmora?

[rose cargo]

That would probably be good, but I suggest just sticking to the structure of hyper offense

Oh and Ho-Oh isn’t a screens mon

[viscid apex]

Gotcha, what specific pokemon can be better than Ho-Oh on screens?

[rose cargo]

Double dance miraidon, trick room calyrex-ice, trick room ndm, etc

Kyurem black if stall is a problem

And you don’t have scale shot koraidon

Add that

[viscid apex]

Kk

[viscid apex]

should glim be suicide lead?

[rose cargo]

Yeah

[viscid apex]

kk

[viscid apex]

How does everything look?
https://pokepast.es/2becd3644fe71815

[rose cargo]

Also, flutter isn’t that great here imo

And you might want Tera fairy on miraidon instead of Tera dragon

[viscid apex]

why not?

[rose cargo]

Not as great as stuff like calyrex-ice over here

But this is more of a personal preference, as calyrex-ice can be really effective vs opposing offense

And people spam offense all the time on ladder