Ubers

[empty bridge]

https://pokepast.es/3ab6d8f1f862f13e

Webs remade

[shut skiff]

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[empty bridge]

Never sent this one for rating

So /shrug

[cinder fox]

kyogre should really be a koraidon man idk what to say

basc should def not be banded swift swim

[empty bridge]

Fair enough

[empty bridge]

Oh this explains a lot

I had sensed a lack of koraidon all over but thought it was counterintuitive with basc

So scale korai?

[crude turtle]

@empty bridge

If ur going webs w basc

The good sets are agility (w boots or some boosting item) + adaptability

Or

Scarf which is very niche but can be passable if u wanna be unique

[empty bridge]

Back

[empty bridge]

Ah i see

Thanks

[opaque parrot]

https://pokepast.es/5080fb4d75f6d469 this feels super wack into caly ice

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[quartz sleet]

do you guys think that this team will work?

[cinder fox]

we don't have jurisdiction over nd, you'd much rather take this over to the natdex non ou thread

[quartz sleet]

oh, my bad

[marsh tree]

https://pokepast.es/4acdea9504db0757

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh tree]

I literally know nothing about Ubers and somehow I forgot hazard removal???

[cinder fox]

dw about it there's basically no removal in this tier lmao

anyways

[marsh tree]

I swore hooh had defog

[cinder fox]

no :(

anyways let's see

[marsh tree]

I think I want tera water/ground on ndm instead of dark to resist kiraidons nuclear bomb

[cinder fox]

I don't really recommend running ditto and bundle together, I'd drop bundle prolly for scarf Korai and make Mirai into CM Taunt with Boots

[marsh tree]

What's the spread for that?

[cinder fox]

Max max jolly

[marsh tree]

Gotcha

[cinder fox]

It's a dex set, you should be able to find it

[marsh tree]

Mhm I did

[cinder fox]

I think you prolly want Ting-Lu over Ditto actually and Fairyceus over this Groundceus here imo

[marsh tree]

So what is the miraidon set?

[cinder fox]

I'll send a paste once I'm finished explaining changes

[marsh tree]

Gotcha gotcha

[cinder fox]

Anyways, Tera Dark is fine on NDM but you need Knock with hazards for it to be effective imo

That's why you go for rocks on Fairy and Spikes on Ting

[marsh tree]

What do I do against set up?

[cinder fox]

Fairy I'd recommend should run Dragon Tail on here

Anyways NDM should be a got faster and have DD over SD

https://pokepast.es/9d5b095eb2d36ccc

Implementing my changes would result in a team like this

[marsh tree]

Yeah this looks great, thank you

[fossil dust]

https://pokepast.es/fdc2e587f3e4af7e

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

the title literally says it's a UWC team

what are you posting it for lol ask Beleth to make it better

[fossil dust]

It's a team from past rounds lol, I'm going to use it on another tour (I'm not even in UWC)

[paper ember]

one of the rules of this channel (rule five here: #1030567099703242903 message) is do not ask for rates on teams you did not build

[fossil dust]

Ah, mb

[crude turtle]

Arceus ice with tera ground is a good counter to miraidon with judgement

[ebon plume]

https://pokepast.es/7f10148a66a9ef6b

Built this based off of an analyses that Oreo wrote in the totw ubers channel (but the team is mine, I just stole the base core lmfao)

The whole point was a team with zek and caly-i so that's a must keep, everything else is volatile

[shut skiff]

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[ebon plume]

Lack of mirai severely scares me but i dunno if its feasible to fit it

Perhaps over groundceus or ndm

[crude turtle]

I think the biggest thing I’d change up here is

Either dd sunsteel ndm or ekiller > groundy

Up to u but

Caly I shaky

[ebon plume]

Wym?

[ebon plume]

Probably the first i guess because

Otherwise i lack any special presence

[crude turtle]

Caly I can be tough for u I think

Not the worst

But annoying

[ebon plume]

Oh kinda i guess

[devout turtle]

https://pokepast.es/f18ebd94a4b13aec

Guys I made this team for fun I want to know what should I change or how can I make the team better overall even with different pokemons. Just want to get better at teambuilding overall so any advice is good. Thank you 🙂

[crude turtle]

Is this for Ubers

Bc frankly all but flutter mane are unviable in Ubers

[devout turtle]

Yeah it should be for ubers I didnt know that she is banned here

[crude turtle]

If you want to figure out how to start in this tier I can pass some resources to help you 🙂

Flutter mane is fine here but the others suck

[devout turtle]

Yeah that would be awesome 😄

I have really like almost 0 experience in team building and I dont know where to start

[crude turtle]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ubers-viability-rankings-post-dlc2.3724082/ - viability rankings to see what’s good

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ubers-dlc-2-sample-teams.3736089/ - sample teams

Generally this tier is run by Koraidon and miraidon

[devout turtle]

Oh ok

Otherwise, you generally don't have any types of how to compose teams in any tier?

[crude turtle]

in any tier?

i think you can start off the vr, finding a mon you're interested in

read up their dex analysis to see what checks it

and what commonly pairs well w it

you can kinda form a 2-3 mon core with that alone

and then round it off with general things like a volt absorber / speed control / steel type etc

@devout turtle if that makes sense

[devout turtle]

A little bit yes 😅, thanks for the advice I will try it

[crude turtle]

oh another thing i forget to reply

make that shit max bulk groundy imo

if u want u can keep it as is but

i personally like making them fat groundies

[ebon plume]

Oh okay

Thanks for reminding me lol

[balmy oxide]

This is for gen 7 - I'm not sure about cottonee and nosepass and I'm looking for another defogger - any suggestions?

No restrictions.

https://pokepast.es/3c2db1a7c3ee81eb

[paper ember]

We do not rate teams with added restrictions, see rule four: #1030567099703242903 message

[balmy oxide]

Ok - I'll remove the restricition.

[cinder fox]

This is simply not at all viable for SM Ubers, your only viable Pokemon on this team are Primal Groudon and Smeargle, and aside from the PDon the sets are not viable in the tier.

I'd highly recommend using a sample team from here, as this team is far from the standard and can't be rated in this state.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ubers-old-gens-hub.3714123/post-9462706

[rose cargo]

I am trying to cook with this balance sorta team, ekiller gets cooked by Tera ghost koraidon so here I am with fairyceus.
Does the double status work, I have always been messing with both.

https://pokepast.es/34ffefdb06818fbf

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

Paste ^

Just need to not get cooked by the bikes

And have some chance against other archetypes

[crude turtle]

team looks super zacian weak

i'd prob make one of fairyceus or caly into an ndm

or

make fairy -> waterceus

and make ho oh fully bulky

[wraith bramble]

https://pokepast.es/307eada424845a02

gen 9

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cinder fox]

[crude turtle]

@cinder fox u got it

[cinder fox]

i don't unfortunately i gtg to sleep

sorry :<

[crude turtle]

@cinder fox wake up its rating time

[cinder fox]

yes taka 😔

[cinder fox]

treads and ditto are super not great in this tier and ghostceus is mega outclassed in the tier

that said i do see what you're going for with this team so this is workable

[next rover]

https://pokepast.es/39de60f7a8f4ff1e

Hyper offense

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New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cinder fox]

composition is fine but there's some set issues

miraidon shouldn't be specs, it should be boots with either cm or u-turn (your choice)

[next rover]

Set issue..?

[next rover]

Alr

[cinder fox]

ribombee shouldn't have bug buzz here fs

you're better off with pounce/u-turn in that slot

[next rover]

Alright

[cinder fox]

Um okay

[next rover]

Ndm, Basc and E-Killer sets are fine?

[cinder fox]

I think this Arceus should be a Groundceus personally but if you wanna keep ekiller it's fine

[next rover]

I tested a bit with Groundceus, but wasn't able to use it properly

[cinder fox]

Basc should be Wave Crash > Liquidation and NDM should have Boots with Stone Edge > Sunsteel and Tera Fire > Ground

[next rover]

Understood

Tysm

[crude turtle]

i think u can do lum>boots too

w tera psychic

[next rover]

I'll test it, thx

[wraith bramble]

made some changes if you dont mind taking a second look https://pokepast.es/ad1d0b9972d5526a

[cinder fox]

really not a fan of the clodsire but it's ok if you wanna keep it

but rockeus should always be a fairyceus here

and groudon should be an ndm

imo clod should also be tspikes instead of rocks and you prolly want a glisc > gambit for spikes

https://pokepast.es/3558155e18b36027

this is prolly ok

[wraith bramble]

thanks

how does this team deal with cm arc that teras poison/steel

[cinder fox]

if you can't get caly in then gira's dtail in conjunction with hazards is okay short-term

but you gotta get caly in at some point

[cinder fox]

Unfortunately tho the nature of SV is that no matter how you try to account to everything in the meta, balance will still always have insufficient tools for some key threats

[wraith bramble]

fs

[ebon plume]

You're missing 4 evs on caly

Trol

[cinder fox]

STFU

[crude turtle]

@cinder fox mid ahh builder

[outer kite]

Can I submit a NatDex Ubers paste here?

https://pokepast.es/630d14f0099d3d0f

[ebon plume]

Lmao

[red plank]

Can I post a nat dex dubers team here?

https://pokepast.es/28d04638003ea295

Trying to make it centered around mega garchomp

Ik mega garchomp isn't great, but I'm trying to make it work

[rose cargo]

So what kind of ndm should I make it? Max max defensive or trick room? Or maybe dragon dance?

[crude turtle]

Probably defensive dd and you make wisp on fairyceus -> rocks

[rose cargo]

Mhm

Thanks

[red plank]

can someone please help me fix my team? sorry if im being pushy

[main berry]

Your going to want special attackers to counter physical counters like ho oh with tera

[red plank]

Yes I need to use special attackers

Do you have any suggestions for ones that work well with sand teams?

[cinder fox]

we don't rate natdex, you're better off going to the natdex non ou thread for that

[cinder fox]

we don't rate natdex, you're better off going to the natdex non ou thread for that

[crude turtle]

Do this in natdex non ou but also

Mega chomp isn’t the only issue

All 6 of these mons are not viable

[scarlet compass]

https://pokepast.es/b143a69cfde30a24 ND Ubers i cant for the life of me if i sent this already but

[daring fjord]

#1060037469472555028

[neat lark]

https://pokepast.es/53b7c3c0fa072f63

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

let us see

[neat lark]

Ok thx

[steep tulip]

whole team hinges on electric terrain being up and there's currently a miraidon suspect so

it might be unusable extremely soon

espathra has absolutely 0 niche in Ubers rn and same goes for skymin

chienpao's tera electric stuff is neat until you realise you are only clicking it vs stuff you already beat so like, whats even the point? hitting NDM?

gonna unfort have to suggest you to run samples

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ubers-dlc-2-sample-teams.3736089/

[ebon plume]

https://pokepast.es/d746550242f9ab85

Stallsun builds a bulkier ubers team 2nd edition

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ebon plume]

Not sure how i feel about kyogre here tbh

But amog

[steep tulip]

double water? lolz?

[cinder fox]

i don't vibe with this ngl

as mentioned double water is an instant red flag

[ebon plume]

Double water was a misbuild

I realized after sending

Lol

Its 10 30 PM and i have some people at home + i woke up at 7 lmao

Some more stuff probably slipped over

As it stands i swapped kyo to a ho-oh but amog

[cinder fox]

the groundy mu

is awful

[ebon plume]

That's

[cinder fox]

(though that's def more a tier issue than a team issue tbh)

[ebon plume]

Well besides waterceus it really is

[ebon plume]

LMAO fr

[cinder fox]

uhm i think kyogre is fine here

[ebon plume]

Swap water then?

I thought kyogre would fuck up my ndm on paper

[cinder fox]

but def should not be scarf kyo

[ebon plume]

Twave kyo?

[cinder fox]

boots fs

you can go cm if you want

[ebon plume]

Ait

So what moves

Surf cm ice beam twave?

[cinder fox]

i'd say test out stuff like cm 3a

twave spout

[ebon plume]

Ait

[cinder fox]

etc

[ebon plume]

Oki

So overall just boots

[cinder fox]

def wanna make that water into a fairyceus

as much as i hate fairy you need it here

[ebon plume]

I was about to say that lmao

But makes sense

Anything else?

[cinder fox]

gira over mirai probs

[ebon plume]

Physical or special

[cinder fox]

physical always

[ebon plume]

Ok

[cinder fox]

polter dtail sneak is great utility

[ebon plume]

True

Thanks lol

Thats all?

[cinder fox]

Ye looks okay otherwise

[scarlet compass]

https://pokepast.es/eb49466799828637 ik ogerpon is D on the viablity but idc

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lime prairie]

if you're running ogerpon I would recommend on webs

even after trailblaze it's slower than scarf koraidon which sucks, and immediately scaring out zacian is really big

bc you go from getting smacked by cc to potentially forcing a switch to get sd off

with webs most of this can stay the same tbh, just a more offensive dd ndm and a set up mirai, korai and ekiller are fine

ribombee > lando probably solves the other issue of ogerpon

since it's kinda bad and needs a ton of support

but in theory can work

[scarlet compass]

what would be my mirai check/counter?

[lime prairie]

outplaying

HO doesn't usually have hard counters

but ig with this you would be weaker to it than you'd like

you can do groundceus > ekiller or zacian > ndm to help w that

and a tera fairy mirai of your own

[fast bane]

my legendary spam team

https://pokepast.es/cc59d413543cb8ae

i was getting keen on replacing any pokemon with zapdos or Any other pokemon suggestion

[woeful geyser]

Deoxis speed isn't really doing much you'd most likely end up getting it killed just to set up spikes I'd suggest replacing it with something like Flutterman as it's a fast special attacker with a good type combo

[lime prairie]

Dying to set hazards is a viable niche a lot of pokemon have

The rest of the team is more problematic

If you wanna use deoxys HO then you can keep ekiller and ray but the rest of the mons don’t really fit

Defensive groudon is just a bad mon but especially with deoxys it just sinks momentum, and Kyogre can work but would want to be more offensive

Darkrai is just bad

[woeful geyser]

I'm pretty sure darkrai is better in doubles anyway

[lime prairie]

A standard deo ho w the core of deo ray arc would be like those + mirai korai zac, or groundceus > ekiller with those and you can keep ogre somewhere bc groundceus helps vs mirai

[scarlet compass]

https://pokepast.es/dd94b4188a6abd0d i heard zarude is a usable pokemon and i think i made a shit team with it Gen 8 Ubers

[scarlet compass]

ik yvelt is on 110% of teams but

[cinder fox]

where is your ygod

and y zarude is usable but absolutely not as a team's sole dark type

i really dislike the garm here personally

i think i'd go for ygod > darm

[fast bane]

new ubers team https://pokepast.es/c26d57244b3ed5f5

[steep tulip]

I like how the bot just

gave up on tags

your koraidon is missing a nature and ho-oh on offense is not a good fit

also idk who gave you this deo-s set but it's fraudulent af

[fast bane]

wdym

[fast bane]

ho-oh is defence

[fast bane]

i made it

the set works frfr i use it

@steep tulip replaced superpower with pshycic

is it fine now

[cinder fox]

you want psycho boost

[fast bane]

ok

[fast bane]

what else

[cinder fox]

ho-oh on ho is bad

and this ndm set is not good

would make the ho-oh into a caly i and ndm into the tr set

[fast bane]

suggest https://pokepast.es/c26d57244b3ed5f5

[jagged tartan]

loses to webs + mirai gg

why is there a tera bug on my screen

[fast bane]

what would u change in the team

[jagged tartan]

I sent in #comp-general but essentially
CM Arc-G > Ekiller, DD > ID or SD Trick Room on NDM, and Kyo > Ho-oh with this set:

Ability: Drizzle  
Tera Type: Normal  
EVs: 180 HP / 252 SpA / 76 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Thunder Wave  
- Origin Pulse  
- Ice Beam  
- Water Spout```

can also run a bunch of defense on Kyogre

if you wish

[fast bane]

ok thank y ou so much

will take this in account

[jagged tartan]

you can just make multiple teams

one w/ oreo's changes and one w/ mine

[fast bane]

o\

[crude turtle]

Oreo destroying creativity

I agree w Oreo’s changes

I think the ogre addition tbolt says makes the teams momentum a lot worse

I would much rather put caly I or like kyu-b or smth

[jagged tartan]

would have to have a tera normal somewhere if you want groundceus

and groundceus can't be your tera normal

cuz it's too busy dying to mirai

[lunar skiff]

https://pokepast.es/59451f161a9f63b6

[lime fractal]

https://pokepast.es/29bd0dddbee5b129 rate my team and suggest me

im noob

[cinder fox]

we don't really rate natdex, you're better off asking in the natdex non-ou thread

[lime fractal]

but i used non-legends

[autumn swallow]

Can someone help me change my team a bit?

Main gimmick is to beat up on archaludon for x4 defense and use body press, but I'm new to comp so I am not confident

[ebon plume]

For natdex ubers, you should probably use #1060037469472555028

[autumn swallow]

Can someone help me with my team please?

[ebon plume]

However, I'll put it in advance that sadly, no Pokémon on your team is viable in the National Dex Ubers ladder

[autumn swallow]

Or rate it?

[ebon plume]

The power level for that metagame is too high for the mons you chose and we as a server usually don't rate teams with arbitrary restrictions such as non-legendaries

[ebon plume]

Sure

I'm not an official rater tho

But i can try

[autumn swallow]

I mean probs better than me, I'm very new still

[ebon plume]

I see

Sorry to say it but this team kinda falls under the same concept as the team I was talking about earlier

It's sadly unviable for the Ubers tier, except Calyrex-I which is good but not with this set

[autumn swallow]

Anything in particular I should change?

[ebon plume]

Oh and baton pass is banned lol

[autumn swallow]

It is? Well then fuck

[ebon plume]

To be brutally honet, I'd suggest checking out sample teams or at least the viability rankings

Don't feel bad tho this is extremely common with new people

I doubt anyone ever started with a seriously good team off the bat lol

!ubersresources

uh whats the command again

[autumn swallow]

Is this better? @ebon plume

Aside from the items

[ebon plume]

Pokemon wise? Yes

There should be some set swapping but by now we can wait for a real rater

That's an ENORMOUS improvement for one day

Gj really

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Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[cinder fox]

^

[ebon plume]

Ah ty

[fast bane]

just made this team randomlyhttps://pokepast.es/4ef78a0d848fb169

ps : first time didnt use smogon built whatever i felt like

is it hyper offensive? should i change gliscor to deo speed? other suggestions?

[vivid heart]

what did bro make

Sir this is the ubers tier

Thats a OU team

And a uh very interesting OU team at that

[left ingot]

I shall remove it very sorry good sir

[vivid heart]

What's tera fire on rayquaza for?

Why not go ghost/normal

[left ingot]

I think I sent the wrong one actually

[vivid heart]

Also tera blast ice on mirai is not good

[vivid heart]

Calm mind + Draco deals with ting lu well enough

Just use Tera dragon

Gliscor doesn't fit here

Go glimmora or deoxys speed but what I'd recommend is actually running ribombee

[left ingot]

Yeah I sent wrong one

[vivid heart]

Also kyogre is uh quite interesting

[left ingot]

Obama

https://pokepast.es/c044f1eb7f85abde

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vivid heart]

Team looks goofy

For now uh

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Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[left ingot]

I know I've just tried to get counters prepared like zekrom

[vivid heart]

Try using a sample team kr

[vivid heart]

Here's the thing

The team doesn't work

[left ingot]

I know

[vivid heart]

Zekrom is pretty much unviable

All your sets are messed up

[left ingot]

I've tried to use it but out of 5 I win 1

[vivid heart]

Dragonite is also just unviable in ubers

Actually more then half if your team is unviable

[autumn swallow]

Can someone help me do the movesets and items on my team pls?

[vivid heart]

It won't really work so I'd suggest make a new one

[left ingot]

I'll try rn

[vivid heart]

Here's a few tips

[left ingot]

Mind checking out my new one after?

[vivid heart]

Look at the viability rankings

You can use that to check what's good in the tier

[autumn swallow]

Can someone help me do the movesets and items on my team pls?

[vivid heart]

You could also get inspiration from sample teams

[vivid heart]

Looks like a offense

[autumn swallow]

It is

[vivid heart]

Alr so

Spdef ho oh is trash

The only 2 notable special attackers in the tier are kyogre and mirai which ohko you anyways

Flutter is also notable but physdef ho oh deals with that well enough anyways

Also tailwinds trash in singles

[autumn swallow]

The special def ho oh was an accident didn't realise the EVs were wrond

[vivid heart]

Unless it's on ribombee since its gonna die anyways

[autumn swallow]

not singles

[vivid heart]

Oh shit

Wait

This isn't even where your supposed to go for double rates

This is the wrong channel for double rates

[autumn swallow]

This isn't?

[vivid heart]

But that team unironically looks like a single teams if you don't look at the sets so I thought it was a goofy single teams

[autumn swallow]

Which one is it then?

[vivid heart]

look thru the rate my team thing

[autumn swallow]

Only one ubers tho

[vivid heart]

There's a UM channel

[left ingot]

https://pokepast.es/0f21b90b2a8ab2aa

Yo obama

[vivid heart]

Do you want a good team or like a fun team?

This teams uh

Bad

[left ingot]

I want a fun team

[vivid heart]

Well uh this server only rates competitive teams

You can use any fun team you want but this server only rates viable teams

[left ingot]

Ah

[fast bane]

Ok

I saw people use it

[fast bane]

Ye i had thought of deo speed

Since it's hyper offensive

[vivid heart]

Here's the thing, I would personally never tera mirai unless it's against stall or balance matchups

Since against offense teams it's easily revenge killed and your tera is kinda wasted then

And stall or balance isn't common rn

Tera dragon also just hits stall and balance just fine

[fast bane]

Ok so these changes i should do

Gliscor to deo speed

Ice Tera for Mirai to dragon

Fire Tera for rayquaza to normal

?

But why not fire to ice for rayquaza @vivid heart

Is it cus i can switch to kyo ?

[vivid heart]

Why tera fire for rayquaza?

Just do tera normal

[fast bane]

Smogion said

Fire

So

[fast bane]

Why not ice tho

[vivid heart]

The question is why ice
I don't see any reason to

[fast bane]

Ice beam 1 shots Ray

[vivid heart]

Ice beam from?

Tera normal makes it neutral rather then 4x

[fast bane]

Any Pokemon

[vivid heart]

So normal works fine

[fast bane]

What

Kk

Thx

Any more things to fix

[vivid heart]

The only ice beam user in ubers rn is kyogre
Tera normal works fine for kyogre

[vivid heart]

Don't think so

[fast bane]

Darkrai

But he is rare

[vivid heart]

Darkrais unviable

[fast bane]

Ok

[fast bane]

Deo with focus sash richt

Right

[vivid heart]

Yeah

[fast bane]

Ok I used to use that

@vivid heart ok 1 more question do I stick with kyogre Tera ice or change to normal and for miraidon do I also change Tera blast

[vivid heart]

for miraidon just use substitute over tera blast

and for kyogre change it to the smogon calm mind set

[fast bane]

m using calm mind set am I not

@vivid heart after changes what would u rate team outa 10

[vivid heart]

Send me the team after changes

[fast bane]

Ok ima do

Wait lemme turn on laptop

@vivid heart https://pokepast.es/83b2273d32c337f7

[vivid heart]

Id change superpower to psycho boost on deoxys speed

Apart from that tho it looks fine

8/10 ig

[fast bane]

what r immune or strong aginst phsycic types tho

[vivid heart]

Dark is immune to psychic and hits it super effectively

[fast bane]

rest fine

?

[vivid heart]

yeah it's fine

[fast bane]

ok

thx

[fast bane]

what would u do to the team to make it a 10/10

[vivid heart]

idk i don't use HO rn

[fast bane]

ok

[lime prairie]

On this kinda team I wouldn’t recommend using kyogre and I’d also recommend switching up a few sets

Ray if you wanna keep it has to be jolly when you aren’t running webs since you’re slower than zac at +1 and this team is already super farmed by zac

Bc of the zac weakness I’d probably make it eseed agility mirai to have smth that can live one hit from the standard set and threaten back w drift

I feel like > kyogre either tr caly or ndm are better for controlling the pace of the game since you lack speed control otherwise without webs which is why I don’t really like deo rn compared to bee or glimm

Webs and tspikes offer so much usually

If you did want to build this around kyogre changes would be a bit diff but similar idea, just like make it tera fairy and a bit bulkier then go from there on trying not to lose to zacian and scarf koraidon

[fast bane]

i lke rayqauza so i wanted to build around him

[lime prairie]

Ye ray is fine to keep

A little hard to use but not bad

[fast bane]

ok

[fathom monolith]

https://pokepast.es/0c69191dc9192d5a
just beat a top 10 player with this and hit ladder :')
struggles against stall massively

[ebon plume]

https://pokepast.es/3960e31f716c1c95

@cinder fox amog

[cinder fox]

not a huge fan of mgar here and i think exca is a better lead than deos

would go for tomb exca > deos and megamence > mgar

[ebon plume]

I thought of mmence actually dk why i opted out of that

Oki

[cinder fox]

you could also maybe get away with sunsteel on ndm over stone miss if you're feeling like ndm is the more relied upon xern check

[ebon plume]

Oh yeah i forgot

Xern check compression is huge

Anything else?

[cinder fox]

yeah.

the ndm spread should be 28 hp 220 attack 8 defense 252 speed

[ebon plume]

Oh yeah

It gets the same roll iirc?

[cinder fox]

uh i believe so?

but idk

[ebon plume]

Ig lol

[potent hound]

Can I put doubles teams in this?

[potent hound]

https://pokepast.es/3334fc4d3e2cb66d

[empty bridge]

oh yeah i forgot to ask you something

[cinder fox]

hi hello

[empty bridge]

should i go double edge on return on mence here (cause its hard ho)

hi lmao

[cinder fox]

double edge

imo

[empty bridge]

ait

and facade or eq?

[cinder fox]

eq imo

killing steels for xern is really nice

[opaque parrot]

https://pokepast.es/6a0bfdf579f0cc76

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[neat lark]

Please rate I’m a beginner so don’t be too harsh please

https://pokepast.es/5f80a14cb06c9fa3

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tame lotus]

https://pokepast.es/ae4e50ee88fbffa0

gen 7 Ubers team i made

[crude turtle]

hey, there are good ideas here, but frankly the issue is from a few of these mons

the meta is pretty centralized, so its hard to fit sutff like lugia / archaludon / ndw / and terapagos

i think it would be better for you to take a look at the samples to learn the tier first

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ubers-dlc-2-sample-teams.3736089/

[crude turtle]

hey, frankly none of these are viable outside of chansey (only on stall)

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ubers-old-gens-hub.3714123/post-9462706

here are some resources to learn the tier

[tame lotus]

This is why i stick to monotype- its easier to make a team around it.

[steep tulip]

agree!

also I do not get tagged rofl

[empty bridge]

Lmak

[rose cargo]

Use necrozma-dusk mane, photon geyser ignores unaware and destroys stall.

[stark sinew]

https://pokepast.es/0d17116ed1e6f257

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[stark sinew]

kyogre for drizzle so fire type weakness on magerena is halved

[crude turtle]

it is far easier in ubers LOL

[stark sinew]

and to activate swift swim for basc m

for last respects

as a late game sweeper

[crude turtle]

if u wanna work w ogre basc core

i think cyclizar grimm mage are making this team more awkward

i feel like ground type like ting or treads or glisc works better

and u can try out groundceus / fairyceus > ekiller if u want too but up to u

[crude turtle]

oh also cyclizar mage are bad

[stark sinew]

stored power mage

thats the whole base of team

basc just a backup plan

[crude turtle]

oh

hmm

i think this entire build is a little awkward ngl

i think basc ogre mage is just kinda hard to fit

but

if u want to build around mage ogre basc grimm thats fine

cyclizar has to go though

[stark sinew]

for who

[crude turtle]

cyclizar and arceus need to become other HO mons like groundceus / koraidon / miraidon

[stark sinew]

sun would mess up my mage and ogre

[crude turtle]

ngl this team is too gimmicky so i cant really help much

but

ur too weak to other kyogre

if u dont go koraidon mirai is ur safest bet

with arceus ground next

i dont think you can build a good team with

magearna + basculegion though

one of these has to go

[stark sinew]

what if i replace magearna

[crude turtle]

then i would probably restructure the team to be like basc ogre korai ting-lu fairyceus gliscor for a more BO team and basc ogre korai ek zacian grimm for an HO

boots ogre on the ting team, mystic or wacan or whatever on the HO

[fathom monolith]

where do i fit it though

[crude turtle]

Nature of stall but

Ndm doesn’t beat most stall rn anyways bc of the defensive normalceus/ darkceus

The best bet is prolly adamant scale shot Koraidon

[vapid hazel]

Can anyone evaluate my team and see what I can change or what specific attack to put in

Gardevoir ---- Excradil ---- Komo-o ---- Venosaur ---- ribombee ---- Blacephalon

Come private

[crude turtle]

none of these are usable in ubers

i would tell you to go to uu

[round lodge]

https://pokepast.es/08798d37b132d96c
hihi i would like a guide to using this team i made for s/v

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @cinder fox. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude turtle]

hi im ngl

this team is just not usable in any tier

maybe if u removed glastrier and dragonite for ru mons it would be usable in ru

i suggest looking at the sample teams / vr / and recent uwc replays

[round lodge]

is with uber pokemons are fine rihght

[strong geode]

https://pokepast.es/11c59359960f9206 im new to pokeshowdown so idk if this is good

[rose cargo]

Uff, I need to be able to improve this team, double status arceus fairy was awesome other than the fact that I struggle with speed control and is forced into a bunch of speed ties, so here is another offense team that I have built with the arceus that I am familiar with: https://pokepast.es/67a7ae7fc5acdb26

[shut skiff]

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[rose cargo]

And yes, this team struggles with the most used Mon in the tier but everything else are momentum sinks for me, maybe this team is better as an HO team?

Fairyceus was really awesome but revenge killing was hard

[steep tulip]

I'd run scarf Koraidon for sure here and probably replace the Caly-I with a ground

Also idk how I feel about 3 atk TR NDM on such a structure.

[rose cargo]

I just feel like I needed a powerful sweeper like koraidon

And wanted to build a team that revolves around getting in koraidon and maybe sweeping

Hyper offense could also be used but now that basculegion is gone maybe that cannot be as good as before?

Since scale shot koraidon is a real set, can you make it so that this team revolves around it?

And the 3a trick room is because I am tired of seeing me just set up trick room as Ho-Oh gets a free switch

And if I swords dance on the switch it’s then a guessing game + rng

(But technically I only have a 80 chance to beat it here too so I guess I am doing it wrong.)

Maybe this team will function better as an hyper offense team

Maybe I am better off making it that way

Plus Tera ghost koraidon is fun and predicting that Tera on the bird is awesome but that’s outside the main point

Anyways, just keep the sweeper koraidon part, since it’s a real sets it’s gotta fit on SOME team, right?

[rose cargo]

The only hyper offense I have ever played was basculegion webs, but that is completely unusable now.

[potent hound]

I feel like this team turns up short sometimes
https://pokepast.es/3334fc4d3e2cb66d

[rose cargo]

Of course, you are using the fakest team ever, USE REAL LEGENDARIES.

And real sets while you are at it

[ebon plume]

Scale Shot Koraidon is like

One of the most broken sets available in Ubers

But if you wanna build around it you prolly wanna go HO

[potent hound]

Fym real legendaries

[fair lagoon]

I’m new to this server, is this thread regular ubers or all ubers? I couldn’t find one for Nat Dex Ubers specifically is why I’m asking

[steep tulip]

everything BUT natdex Ubers goes here

ND Ubers goes in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1060037469472555028

[fair lagoon]

Bet I appreciate it! Ngl when I saw that I was thinking that was anything under OU in that one

[steep tulip]

it is

but ND Ubers is much further from regular Ubers than it is NatDex OU

[fair lagoon]

I see, I’m new to pvp & comp stuff so wasn’t really sure. Only done UU & NDUbers a couple times. The pixelmon server I play on’s current wz season is a take on NDUbers w custom mons, is why I was specifically asking for NDU

I’ll give that channel a look. Again I appreciate it very much

[steep tulip]

any time

[empty bridge]

https://pokepast.es/8166b509b211d3b5

Haven't built much since Mirai DNB but built this earlier today because I'm in the mood 👍

[shut skiff]

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[rose cargo]

I personally like 120 speed ndm tho.

[empty bridge]

Damn I got royally ignored

😔

[rose cargo]

I responded

At least

[empty bridge]

I saw

Thanks

[rose cargo]

Btw did you cook me the team?

[empty bridge]

I'm testing out both spreeds lol

[empty bridge]

No i had to go sleep, i can try to do it rn

But its hard

I dont play freedom cup lmao

Except w friends

[rose cargo]

Pls do, just remember the fact that I need to be able to deal with minimize shit and baton pass + sleep

Send it in the dms

[empty bridge]

That's specifically what i'm struggling to deal wity

Might take me some time lol

[crude turtle]

Not many issues outside of me thinking this etern set doesn’t fit

Deels like u want defensive paired w gliscor

[ebon plume]

Ah alright ty

Sorry, was on this acc and didnt catch the ping

[fast bane]

probaabbly my best performing team yet https://pokepast.es/2830cc33bdbd96aa

[rose cargo]

In my opinion that NDM set is just wrong

[fast bane]

how

[rose cargo]

Why are you running lorb on a set with rocks?

Rocks are for defensive sets

A trick room NDM also should have a moveset something like this:

Trick room swords dance photon geyser and earthquake

And the item should not be lorb, this just decreases your longevity and you need swords dance for the breaking power

Try something like occa berry if you want to safely set up on koraidon

Or weakness policy to take advantage of prism armor

And why the heck are you running Tera fighting zacian with no fighting moves?

That’s just pointless

Fairyceus probably benefit more from another move like stealth rock or maybe taunt

Or if you wanna get extra spicy you can try wisp, but that’s not confirmed to work

I love it tho but take that with a grain of salt

Scale shot koraidon is better on hyper offense than your team

Scarf would be better as you will need some speed control here

You don’t have ekiller so you need some speed control even more

And no, max HP zacian with no attack is not a real set here.

[rose cargo]

TLDR, need speed control, fake sets, etc. ^

There are more probably, let’s let the people who come later to do it cuz I can’t.

[fast bane]

https://pokepast.es/ed60d23df004c12b

[rose cargo]

Ok this looks a bit better

But for a more in depth analysis wait for the raters to show up

[ebon plume]

Been 2 days but again, you want 252 attack on zacian

Intrepid Sword is not enough to justify running 0 attack

Other than that I'd prolly wait for a rater yeah

[rose cargo]

Did not notice that lmao

[ebon plume]

Lol

[opal badge]

https://pokepast.es/0292cd8c65220c98 What should i change in my first rain team ? (not changing pokemons, but movesets, items and abilitys yes) :D

[opal badge]

Peliper had wrong ability, changed it to drizzle already :)

[opal badge]

i could change Kingdra or Peliper

[rose cargo]

Uhhh ur in the wrong place

This is not a real Ubers team

[opal badge]

but can i play it in any other format ?

[rose cargo]

Stuff like koraidon and miraidon are right there

[rose cargo]

Lemme think

[opal badge]

lol

[rose cargo]

If you remove kyogre

This maybe can work in Ubers UU

But stuff like urshifu and palafin and palkia-o are right there too

[opal badge]

do you recomend any rain team with archaludon ?

[rose cargo]

Not in Ubers at least

Go check Ubers uu maybe

[potent hound]

its good ? https://pokepast.es/bd40d9c3d179408a

[shut skiff]

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[steep tulip]

exceptionally weak to miraidon

make the lando-t into sth like ting-lu

you are also not really insulated vs ho-oh

so maybe power gem>ice beam on groundceus @potent hound

[potent hound]

ok thxx

im ting lu i put what moves ?

and the item

@steep tulip

[steep tulip]

Ability: Vessel of Ruin
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Tera Type: Poison
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Ruination
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind / Spikes```

[potent hound]

th

thx

[lime prairie]

Nature on caly is also wrong

Ada > jolly

[potent hound]

oh thx

[scarlet compass]

https://pokepast.es/0d32297e93489b9f came to me in a dream

[shut skiff]

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[scarlet compass]

i had an idea abt flame body moltres and thought it might work

[steep tulip]

Ho-Oh is 100 times better sorry to say

[scarlet compass]

aw :(

they haave the same defence tho right?

[versed lava]

same def but ho oh has more HP and Sdef + regenerator + better movepool

[rose cargo]

And sacred fire and better moves + coverage

Replace with Ho-Oh and this will be a nice team

Tho rain is kinda anti synergy with fire bird

[lost sable]

you'd run brave no?

[ebon plume]

Ada is usually good for the ting lu matchup

But brave is also good for the calyi mirror

Its preference

[fast bane]

these r my teams for ubers
am a hyper offensive player

arceus is ekiller
kyogre is choice specs
dusk mane is defensive with dd instead of stealth rock
koraidon is scale shot
miradon is setup sweeper
zacian is wallbreaker cc
deo speed is hazard lead with psycho boost
mew is hazard lead with misty explosion

[fast bane]

ok mew sucks

down to these 2 which one would ya all prefer

[daring fjord]

!pokepaste

[shut skiff]

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[potent hound]

https://pokepast.es/4acc5001535fdc8a

[fast bane]

ok

https://pokepast.es/ce198bd4c6cbad9f
https://pokepast.es/9c1f1c641a02884b

[fast bane]

which team is better for ubers?

[empty bridge]

@steep tulip hello you're online

[empty bridge]

As a non-rater but a decent enough ubers ladder player

[steep tulip]

specs Ogre isn't an HO mon imho. You'll find more success and more easily with Zacian if I'm not suggesting any changes.

[empty bridge]

A few imputs:

• the first team is better for hyper offense imo

• run offensive necrozma instead of defensive (EVs)

• close combat over play rough on zacian and tera fighting, to break NDM

• probably double Dance miraidon

But let lasen speak

[fast bane]

Ok

[fast bane]

Ok

[steep tulip]

I'd rather this be TR NDM if anything. If you are gonna do boots Miraidon it should be Taunt as well because atm you're struggling vs opposing Zacian if it had webd support.

[fast bane]

yup i used to use trick room

ndm

i switched from offensive to not get kod by zacian

[steep tulip]

You can do bulky NDM if you want to, but it has to be faster than sth like Kyurem-B at +1

[fast bane]

so should i run the trick room ndm

and what shall i do about kyogre, should i not use him at all or switch him to calm mind?

[empty bridge]

Isn't TR better tho? Gets to invest in HP and outspeed zac with TR up

[steep tulip]

TR was the initial suggestion so yes

[empty bridge]

Oh yeah, and invest in attack over HP on zacian

Idk why its 252 HP 252 speed

[steep tulip]

Was it HP invested

It didn't even register

[empty bridge]

Yeah its 252 hp

[steep tulip]

I'm not home so sunstall can aid you

[empty bridge]

I mean I'm not as good as you but

That sums up it

Taunt over volt switch on mirai, attack investment on zacian, trick room ndm

Rest seems solid

Ty lasen

[fast bane]

ty guys

[empty bridge]

Np

[fast bane]

@empty bridge so shall i just delete the kyogre team

since zacian is a better option

[empty bridge]

Kyogre is a good mon but not for this archetype

So probably yeah

Kyogre is better on non HO

[fast bane]

yup

[empty bridge]

Gl lol

[fast bane]

thx

oh i did the wrong evs

i was doing 252 atk instead of hp

[empty bridge]

Yeah do 252 attack lol

[fast bane]

yeah meant to do that

[empty bridge]

Lol

[fast bane]

@empty bridge why taunt over volt switch tho

[empty bridge]

Other than that the team seems solid

[empty bridge]

You don't need to actively pivot out in hyper offense, and volt switch kills your calm mind boosts

Taunt also lets you win calm mind wars pretty consistently

[fast bane]

oh

maks sense

never looked at liek that lol

is rest of the team good for a HO?

[empty bridge]

Yws

Yes

[fast bane]

https://pokepast.es/c51b801483162564

ok tysm

[empty bridge]

Np lol

[chilly matrix]

https://pokepast.es/959ae2ebfeb3c12d
Hows this webs ho team

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[twilit quiver]

this is incredibly vulnerable to oppsing hazards

[lime prairie]

that's normal of webs teams

you just have to not give them the chance to set up

the problem with this is that it just kinda uses suboptimal mons

specs ogre is pretty niche as is and you're still slower than boots mirai / scarf korai, so you might just be giving it a free in to click a move your team has no resists to

and lando is just kinda bad

can't beat ho-oh

the team itself is fairly standard, I think it'd just be better if you put a koraidon > ogre or lando then changed out the other one for smth else

like zacian to outspeed opposing miraidon or just ndm

[twilit quiver]

yeah I was gonna say if you're not gonna use the brokens then at least be better in the webs mirror

[chilly matrix]

Imma be real, Lando was just a meme

[lime prairie]

the standard webs build looks smth like bee bikes arc +2, usually some combo of zac ndm and niche etern / ray / kyu / second lead

if you don't use groundceus I'd recommend zacian since you're weak to opposing miraidon

but like making it korai + zac > ogre + lando alone makes the build so much more threatening

[chilly matrix]

https://pokepast.es/e31cdd43d835daae

Smth like this

[lime prairie]

make it fighting cc zac

no move to hit ndm is sad and lets you just lose if it clicks dd twice

[chilly matrix]

What should I replace cc for

[lime prairie]

usually prough gets dropped

you can technically drop behemoth but I don't like that here when fairyceus annoys this team already bc of kyurem dragon spam

[chilly matrix]

https://pokepast.es/55fc71f3af7015ab
This?

[lime prairie]

looks good, I'd maybe consider ghost ekiller since you don't have a low kick resist but this should be fine

p standard webs build

[chilly matrix]

Would A-ground be better

[lime prairie]

wouldn't be a bad option

might be better but hard to say objectively

I'd usually use it on smth like this personally tho

[chilly matrix]

Cm or d-dance

[lime prairie]

dd probably, if you go special I personally prefer rocks taunt on webs

but cm 3a is also decent surprise factor

[chilly matrix]

Thanks for the help mate

[lime prairie]

np

[chilly matrix]

https://pokepast.es/ea63fbd5a9cea0bd

[scarlet compass]

https://pokepast.es/3e156d9afda26713 idk how good grass arcues is

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

it's not that good

but if you wanna use it I'd fix the tera type on Zacian and maybe turn ogre into ho-Oh and make Miraidon boots

[scarlet compass]

what do i change the tera on zacian

i forgot to add one

oh wait tera fire right?

[cinder fox]

fighting

[twilit quiver]

This team has 0 response to entry hazards while also having 5/6 mons vulnerable to them

[paper panther]

https://pokepast.es/85cc8e70ec4f097d

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[steep tulip]

sorry this team is not viable at all; if you wanna do sun gimmicks then koraidon is 100% mandatory for Ubers and the movesets of the pokemon here are not good

I suggest you check out ubers samples and dex sets

[shut skiff]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/arceus-ground/uber

Uber (Gen 9)

• Viability Rankings
• Sample Teams
• Set Compendium
• Speed Tiers
• Metagame Discussion Thread
• Simple Questions and Answers Thread
• Ubers Discord
• Pokemon Showdown Room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[fossil dust]

https://pokepast.es/8a476fce5dda53aa How is this?

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rose cargo]

Your team gets owned by koraidon, just saying.

An arceus forme can be very welcome here

Spdef Ho-Oh is not a real set

Still you have no defensive answers to koraidon

[fossil dust]

Tera fairy ho-oh is better?

also phys def

[rose cargo]

Yes

You may want something to defensively check koraidon

[rose cargo]

But this is miles ahead of random casuals thinking that they should use their favorites

[ebon plume]

This

Lmao

[ebon plume]

Go physdef ho-oh and probably u-turn over calm mind on miraidon

Also tera Dragon or Ghost on Miraidon

...wait I'm 5 days late

Sorry didn't know this channel was so dead LMAO

But if you still need this, yeah an Arceus forme over something sounds like a good move, maybe over etern unless you want to keep it

Not sure about that one tho

[fossil dust]

kk, i'll try Wow + Dtail Fairy Arceus over Eternatus

[ebon plume]

Gl lol

[hard lagoon]

https://pokepast.es/770bfb7add5bfaab

[azure forge]

https://pokepast.es/540093fe3d78f45c Hey, new guy here. I’ve been using this team for the past two days with legendary pokemon now in season 18 of ranked battles. I’m somewhat new to competitive so any critiques and suggestions are welcome! A little context, I kept losing to every single Calyrex shadow rider team so i saw that hisuian zoroark is inmune to astral barrage and can hit it with a shadow ball for big damage. Usually send out urshifu next to it so I can hit dark types who may threaten it. Flutter Mane for my fairy type and great stats, metagross for bulky physical attacker, and rayquaza because Tera normal extreme speed and gets rid of weather. Like I said prior I’m open to suggestions of tiny tweaks in moves or stat distribution to new pokemon altogether. Thank you again 🙂

Oh and amoonguss for sleep and redirecting

[rose cargo]

Bros in the wrong channel

Why the hell are you using redirecting moves in singles

Get out of the kitchen

Also what is this new regional metagross? Bleakwindstorm meta is something

Anyways your team is fake as heck

I have no idea what you are cooking

Crunch Ray is not real

[rancid spire]

https://pokepast.es/385b4cafda746a9d

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rancid spire]

thanks c:

[rose cargo]

Urshifu is a fake pokemon

[rancid spire]

and that means…?

[rose cargo]

Choice items should not me on HO

[rose cargo]

It’s not viable

[rancid spire]

ah

[rose cargo]

Koraidon is just better as a fighting type

[rancid spire]

he’s came in clutch quite a few times though.

[rose cargo]

Bros on low ladder

[rancid spire]

yeah, just started.

[rose cargo]

Replace with scale shot koraidon

[rancid spire]

alright, what about my Miradon?

[rose cargo]

And replace mirai with some standard setup set like double dance

Defensive dragon dance NDM does not fit on webs

Try max speed and attack with adamant nature

And stone edge

[rancid spire]

alright, thanks. I’ll go change that

[rose cargo]

And Ho-Oh does not fit on HO

Flutter mane is not too good on the vr rankings either, I suggest going for something else

Like zacian

[rancid spire]

And if i wanted to swap to defensive from HO?

[rose cargo]

Zacian-C

[rancid spire]

what should i change

[rose cargo]

That works

Remove ribombee then

[rancid spire]

and swap with?

[rose cargo]

And replace scarf urshifu with scarf koraidon

[rancid spire]

alright

[rose cargo]

With some defensive arc forme to deal with koraidon and stuff

[rancid spire]

fairy?

[rose cargo]

Yea that’s a staple

[rancid spire]

i used to use rocks, thunder wave judgement arc fairy.

[rose cargo]

I personally like wisp but that works too

And pivot miraidon will work well there too, specs require a lot of prediction to work

[rancid spire]

https://pokepast.es/5f417383c56ac315

how's this?

[rose cargo]

A bit better but wp ndm is used on the tr set

Let me edit it

[rancid spire]

alright, thanks

[rancid spire]

what does tr mean btw?

[rose cargo]

https://pokepast.es/5aa504cef9b3eb60

Try this

It’s a better, but I suggest looking for more advice from the other eaters

Raters

[rancid spire]

thanks!

[rose cargo]

Cuz it’s not perfect

[rancid spire]

not sure how i feel about ting-lu

[rose cargo]

You need it to not get smoked by miraidon

Or use spdef groundy, but that thing sucks ass

[fast bane]

https://pokepast.es/ea4c97a77890047a

[rose cargo]

Double dance miraidon would work better here, otherwise this team is miles ahead of many others I have seen.

Also I personally like Tera fighting close combat other than Tera fire, as it removes your ground weakness and can muscle through defensive necrozma dusk mane.

Hyper offense might want taunt arceus, but that’s just me

Also try 3 speed IVs on ndm

[rose cargo]

Also try Tera ghost koraidon

[fast bane]

thx

[fast bane]

feedback? am oArnavvhttps://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ubers-2122067248-mciinhpypn0xcqxxhhf8pgx5awh9cyqpw

[rose cargo]

Fake ass team you are playing against

Get higher up on ladder to see real teams

[fervent hare]

https://pokepast.es/c751d9446cc57d9e

Messing around with SVUbers a bit.

[shut skiff]

New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @wooden cosmos, @steep tulip, @warped pier, @versed lava, @crude turtle, @twilit quiver. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fervent hare]

Specifically wanted to build Zek.

[steep tulip]

can't recommend zek

also the ww is kinda just there

you could prolly do ogre instead @fervent hare

albeit you remain weak to pivot mirai, like, a lot

also helps w ho-oh kinda

[fervent hare]

Could Ting-Lu be another Ground that does better into that kinda thing?

[steep tulip]

no; that's your best bet tbh

you could maybe do double ground with gliscor but zekrom will still make the team lose some level of consistency

[fervent hare]

I'll just see how this can ball with Ogre.

[frozen crystal]

https://pokepast.es/c28dbc552bb20871 what moves can i put for this team, im mainly trying to use tinkaton + iron hands + trick room setters + ursalona

[steep tulip]

wrong channel bud

[steep tulip]

you want https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059714627384115290

err

[somber burrow]

What do we think about this?

I have torkoal/ninetails set up sun, and then charizard teras fire

BUFFS:

50% (stab) + 50% (sun) + 50% (solar power) + 50% (tera) + 30% (life orb) = 230% or an increase of 3.3x damage. It allows me to one shot anything neutral and do 70-80%+ of a resistant's health.

Downside is he loses 9/40 of his hp per turn, resulting in his death after the 5th turn

[ebon plume]

Tera is 33.3%

If you're already base Fire

Because it boosts from 1.5x to 2x if you already previously had STAB

But either way, Charizard is too slow and weak to hazards to get the hits you want, sadly

And it dies too fast yeah

If you could get it working, Ogerpon-H would do the same but better

So idt this is gonna work competitively unfornatunately

[somber burrow]

I said 50% since im already spamming flamethrower

and i replaced life orb with choice specs for more dmg and less drawback

[ebon plume]

Tera Fire boosts Charizard's Flamethrower by 33.3%, multiplicatively, compared to its non-Tera power with the same modifiers

Not 50%

But that's beyond the point

Lol

[somber burrow]

is this just not true?

[ebon plume]

Correction

Check the last phrase

2x instead of 1.5x

This is a math concept but

2 is 1.33333 * 1.5

It's a 50% increase in comparison to the original power before STAB, but a 33.333333% increase compared to the ACTUAL original power

That's just how mathematics work

Lol

[cinder fox]

for future reference questions like these should go in #comp-general

[somber burrow]

This is hella confusing

there was a 1,5x increase because of stab

now we get another 1.5x

[ebon plume]

Go compgen

[cinder fox]

but also charizard is simply not viable in ubers period, it simply cannot hope to compare to the top mons in the tier

[ebon plume]

Ill explain better over there

[somber burrow]

Ofcourse I just use it for fun lol

its hilarious seeing groudon getting 1 tapped by a flamethrower

[cinder fox]

if you're using it for fun that's fine but don't expect more feedback than "don't use it seriously"

[rose cargo]

My god am I actually seeing somebody use char in Ubers?

I hope not

[jade delta]

Hey guys I'm new to ubers, and competitive Pokemon in general :>

I've just started out in it recently and I'm kinda liking Koraidon. I don't take it too seriously, and I'm just looking for some fun in the highest tier ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶

Currently running him with Deoxys-S and Arceus cus I felt like they'd work well together, but I'm having trouble filling up the whole team . I wanna build a lil offensive team with Koraidon as the centerpiece (not quite ho, but still a very heavy offense)

Here's my Deoxys-S and Arceus sets btw, just copied the recommended sets ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twilit quiver]

a team with these three is probably always going to be HO, but for starters you should use the smogdex set for Koraidon

after that it’s just more offensive guys: SD Zacian, SD Kingambit, any Miraidon set, etc..

can fit a grounded Poison like Eternatus to help with opposing toxic spikes

also gives you some semblance of a backbone for an offensive team

also Recover on LO Arceus doesn’t work too well imo. You’re just going to be attacking until you faint. Taunt is nice because it lets you keep Skeledirge low which helps Koraidon and potentially Zacian a lot

[ebon plume]

Agility + Power Herb Eternatus 👍

[twilit quiver]

Yeah i was thinking power herb here

[ebon plume]

wait I left the ping on, ignore that