UU Rates

[queen pebble]

Is this a doubles team?

[fervent hound]

yes

[queen pebble]

Not a single spread move

Except for poison gas which doesn't do much

Also no point in having both instruct and encore on oranguru

[fervent hound]

Ok but i get around the with instuckt on oranguru

[queen pebble]

Also your running protect on a choice band

[fervent hound]

hadnt seen that

[fervent hound]

i have it so it can poisen and confuse both pokemons on one move with a fast pokemon

[queen pebble]

You rely way to heavily on support moves

Any mon with taunt insta wins the game

[fervent hound]

ok then i switch encore out with an atacking move and trick room on screamtale

[queen pebble]

Yes

Drop trick room for dazzling gleam

[fervent hound]

yea should i drop def stat for speciel attack then

[queen pebble]

Also if you're gonna use a trickroomer might aswell use hoopa in uu

[queen pebble]

Nah keep spd if that's the moveset your sticking with

[fervent hound]

ok thanks for the feedback gonna make some adjustments and try some matches

[chrome narwhal]

Why is scovillain not a nuke

[true kestrel]

Btw I saw this team is for doubles UU, which goes into the doubles channel

[merry merlin]

pls hhelp it be no trash: https://pokepast.es/2e602b049c121fe2

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fervent hound]

ok sry

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/75ba8d7fb40a7fda

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tribal laurel]

defog sciz is quite bad

doesnt do anything to hazard setters

and av ogerpon is bad

gyro ball donphan is odd

for whom?

tera water thundy t is again odd... for whom is it for?

[merry merlin]

dawg nick said to run defog on sciz

[merry merlin]

rock types?

[tribal laurel]

huh

[merry merlin]

anyway @tribal laurel i have another wierd team : D https://pokepast.es/0675859eb5d876a6

[brazen veldt]

who

[true kestrel]

defog sciz is not good, especially if you have rapid spin donphan

in SS UU it was good, mainly because scizor had roost back then

but nowadays without roost defog sciz is not good

for the first team I would replace defog with swords dance

SD sciz is very threatening

Id put boots on weavile, leftovers isn't that good considering it gets chipped down too much from rocks

also why are you running encore Assault vest ogerpon

I would make ogerpon boots

because it works well as a pivot

and doesn't take hazard damage each time it switches in

Also a potential option would be to have spikes on ogerpon

which would wear down the opposing team quicker

[true kestrel]

screens regidraco is a weird set

if you really want screens use either grimmsnarl or alolan ninetales

if you really want to use gallade, I would replace aqua cutter for night slash

as water has bad coverage in UU

I would change the tera type on rev to be tera fire or ground

the former gives u a burn immunity + powers up temper flare

the latter gives u an immunity to twave and powers up high horsepower

I would replace blizzard on gren for ice beam, way more consistent and you can't afford to be missing blizzards on a frail mon

I would make slowking boots, better into hazardstack

I would also slot scald over grass knot

and slack off over weather ball

ambipom is just bad in UU

it struggles versus physical walls such as skarm and really doesn't do much in the tier

it was explored a little bit a couple of months ago since it could KO Ogerpon-Cornerstone with triple axel before Cornerstone's ban

but now there really isn't a reason to use it over other mons such as Lokix, who functions similarly as a priority pivot

lokix is just better since ghost-types don't wall your priority

if you were to run ambipom, just replace throat chop with knock off

knock off has more power and removes rocky helmet from Skarmory and Cobalion, both of which are going to switch into you

[wooden finch]

https://pokepast.es/ba1a1cef7a3529a8

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wooden finch]

hey guys, I've been really enjoying uu so far, sitting at like rank 70 rn

wondering if there is any improvements I can make

noticed arcanine-hisui could be a slight issue sometimes

[merry merlin]

ive noticed that a close combat from a zapdos g outspeed and oneshots, or 2 shots.

[wooden finch]

skeledirge and skarmory is enough

[merry merlin]

then why say its an issue

[wooden finch]

acanine-hisui is not the same pokemon as zapdos g

[merry merlin]

i meant to counter arcanine smh

[true kestrel]

I would slot body press on skarm

lets u beat excadrill and sciz

[wooden finch]

Makes sense, I usually have to Tera ghost and chip them down but this works too

Other than that, I get the surprise factor cuz I see not many people run brave bird skarm

Would help pressure other skarmory a bit better too

[tribal laurel]

Even in ss uu it was not good

U lose to everything and fail to keep rocks up

Off

[tribal laurel]

feels ok. But SD tera ghost weavile sounds like it can tear a new one into you. Even then it can feel really annoying with tera ice shenanigans by just burning roost pp or forcing it from ur skarm. I think latios is also scary

ive heard jirachi can be used but u would likely only have thundy t / lokix to break

[dawn light]

https://pokepast.es/37b24a9a9f449a99

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[viral flicker]

https://pokepast.es/2878d93c1fea689a is this good?

[merry merlin]

is this trolling? https://pokepast.es/fc6cca61c95f4009

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rocky glacier]

why would it be ?

it looks fine

you rely a lot on haxorus though

[merry merlin]

he do be one shotting most things tho

[rocky glacier]

indeed

but he's not THAT bulky

and harcanine is in the tier

which invalidates mandibuzz, amoonguss, mamoswine, slither, and resists enamorus

so yeah

like...5/6th of your team

it's fine

[merry merlin]

slither one shots arcanine

and outspeeds

[rocky glacier]

let me check

[wooden finch]

??

you are looking at offensive mandibuzz

most of his team is weak to hazards

[rocky glacier]

ah yeah that too

rocks weakness strikes again

[wooden finch]

and slitherwing doesnt even outspeed

there are also no pivots on the team which is kinda...

[rocky glacier]

ice beam rips pretty bad as well

could honestly use rotom-win

i'd put it in place of enam

pain split volt switch will-o hydropump

252hp/128+def/128spd

would work well

levitate means eq immunity
resists both fire and ice
has volt switch

[merry merlin]

oh shi true...

[merry merlin]

dawg how do all my teams end up weak to rock

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/672cd73ba5c30ad8
@wooden finch this betta?

[wooden finch]

no point in running fake out when you have stab ice shard rght there

no foul play. foul play not as good as knock off, it does less damage and relies on the opponents attack

hone claws is ehhh, run swords dance instead

the tera type should be either dark, ice, or ghost to boost your stabs or defensively to wall and setup on mons like skarm

[merry merlin]

ice shard doesn't flinch ops tho

but your right about hone claws and foul play

[wooden finch]

doesnt matter

it usually barely does any damage in the first place

it also makes contact

for example, stuff like skarm and cobalion are common switch ins, you take more damage for no reason

also most of these sets are pretty bad, if you dont know what you are doing, please use the samples

[tribal laurel]

A lot of the sets are very weird

what reason are they for?

[merry merlin]

idk. i like making sets on my own, and you can't get better without practicing

[true kestrel]

team looks good to me

[true kestrel]

another solid team, just maybe replace poison jab for toxic

[true kestrel]

mandibuzz can hit harc with foul play tbf

[true kestrel]

yeah regarding this team it has a lot of issues

foul play on weavile isn't good

because against a special attacker it doesn't do much

so you instead want to run knock off

hone claws is outclassed by swords dance

also replace fake out with ice shard

ice shard works even after t1

and its stab boosted for weavile

Arcanine hisui shouldn't run choice band

gets worn down way too quickly

make it tera normal

powers up espeed

tera psychic is the worst tera in the game

also make arcanine hisui boots, and replace psychic fangs with stealth rock

replace air slash with roost on empoleon

gives you more longevity

also I would replace flash cannon with surf

I would make fez calm mind

with a set of moonblast, heat wave, roost, and calm mind

tera would be water

and boots as an item

Personally I would replace azumarill with gastrodon

provides you with a spiker, and electric immune to prevent volt switch

something like this:
Gastrodon @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Storm Drain
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 100 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Spikes
• Earth Power
• Ice Beam
• Recover

lastly your team needs a spinner

so I decided on excadrill

Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 32 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpD / 168 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Swords Dance
• Earthquake
• Iron Head
• Rapid Spin

[honest lark]

Is specs tera blast ice thundurus viable

[viral flicker]

really? is the stall matchup good?

[rocky glacier]

bug type fan :

[rocky glacier]

well this isn't weak to rock for starters

[rocky glacier]

harc faster rock head head smash :/

[true kestrel]

Harc is a check

Not a counter

Cause it can’t switch into foul play

Unless you are running morning sun to heal off the damage after switch

[true kestrel]

Poison jab doesn’t do much to skarm, Alolan muk

[rocky glacier]

true

[merry merlin]

if i did this, and replaced flash cannon with surf, wouldn't i not have a single counter to fairy types?

[true kestrel]

UU doesn't have many fairy types

only fairy that you hit with flash cannon is fez

which you can 1v1 with surf

[merry merlin]

ah true.

[merry merlin]

and the same issue for fighting typed: if i replace air slash with roost on empo, and hurricane with calm mind on feza, then i won't have anythign to counter fighting types, of which there is an abundance in UU

[true kestrel]

you hit most of them for neutral damage

which is enough

air slash and hurricane are both non stab

fez also has moonblast

which hits most fighting types for super effective damage

[merry merlin]

smh idk how i forgot about moonblast

[true kestrel]

alternatively you could replace flip turn on empoleon for grass knot

lets you hit keldeo and hits gastrodon harder

[merry merlin]

i probably should, but then no pivot

[true kestrel]

you could, im saying its an option

[merry merlin]

i could replace the excadrill with cyclizar, and have rapid spin + u turn

[true kestrel]

cyclizar also could be better here

since it has a better defensive profile than drill

[merry merlin]

this better: https://pokepast.es/58f4b782f28a51b9

[proven parrot]

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[true kestrel]

I would but heat wave on fez over sludge bomb

hits skarm

[merry merlin]

yeah

[rocky glacier]

leftovers better on gastro

it doesn't take that much from spikes/sr

and you hav fez to absorb tspikes

[merry merlin]

holdup how can fez absorb spikes

[rocky glacier]

it's a little known fact but if you switch in a poison type over tspikes they auto remove it

iirc fez is fairy/poison ?

(this typing is weird)

but it works here

i think it works with tera as well but it's then so situational

[merry merlin]

yeah it is

[true kestrel]

Tbf you don’t really need lefties on Gastro

Since without boots it takes a ton from spikes chip

Which is very hard to remove in UU

[rocky glacier]

i thought spikes factored in ground weakness ?

[true kestrel]

Spikes does damage depending on layers

It does it at a flat rate

It doesn’t factor in ground weakness

Only rocks (and steelsurge) factor in weakness

[merry merlin]

ok new team: https://pokepast.es/c3c2149f4a68198a

it cannot be as bad as the last one

[honest lark]

You forgot 2 moves on kilo

Looks okay

[wooden finch]

@merry merlin which one?

[merry merlin]

latest one

https://pokepast.es/c3c2149f4a68198a

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wooden finch]

lokix 6-0

[merry merlin]

erm. then why did no lokix 6-0 me

[wooden finch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry merlin]

and i fought against a few

[wooden finch]

the only the that doesnt fold instantly is porygon and even then it gets 2hkoed

[merry merlin]

the said porygon who resisted 2x attack salamence until it died :

also stop being a lokix fimp addict

[wooden finch]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tinted Lens Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 412-486 (114.1 - 134.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tinted Lens Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Florges: 374-442 (116.5 - 137.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 756-892 (265.2 - 312.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tinted Lens Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kilowattrel: 412-486 (146.6 - 172.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kleavor: 284-336 (101 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Bug Lokix Leech Life vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 178-210 (47.5 - 56.1%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO

oh also

lokix can knock off the eviolite

[merry merlin]

true

[wooden finch]

what does this even mean

[merry merlin]

what does it not mean. also how tanky do you expect a general team to be

latios get ohko by lokix fimp

[wooden finch]

well yeah bec its super effective

theres plenty of things that can take a hit from lokix well in uu

[merry merlin]

like porygon lmao

and duraludon

[wooden finch]

also you got like

fezandipdi

[merry merlin]

i sincerely hope skarmory gets vaporised

[wooden finch]

revroom

mandibuzz

[merry merlin]

mandibuzz can't

afaik at least, maybe if it runs full hp and defense

[wooden finch]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Bug Lokix First Impression vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Mandibuzz: 192-226 (45.3 - 53.4%) -- 32.4% chance to 2HKO

[wooden finch]

well yeah its the default

what else would it be?

[merry merlin]

idk. speed and attak? defense and attack

[wooden finch]

why would a defensive mon invest in offense

and also

it has stab foul play and toxic

[merry merlin]

shi forgo those existed lmao

[wooden finch]

anyways like

lokix is one of the biggest threats in the tier

you need an answer to it

[merry merlin]

true that

but harcanine

wait shi

wrong tewam

um uh

hurricane from kilowattrel? oh wait, it gets one shot

[wooden finch]

anything that outspeeds it gets ohkoed by first impression, and the only thing that eats the hit cant do enough damage back and gets 2hkoed

[merry merlin]

yrsh true

but anyway why does florges tank it? fairy resists bug no?

[wooden finch]

tinted lens

[merry merlin]

fk

[wooden finch]

basically anything that isnt extremely bulky or 4x resist gets nuked

[merry merlin]

so bawsically you are telling me to get a focus sash or a tank

[wooden finch]

theres plenty of mons that can eat a hit from lokix

like again, skarm is one of the best mons in the tier rn

or fez or something else

[merry merlin]

sigh skarm feels scummy to play lmao

[true kestrel]

Btw CB lokix isn't super good in UU

[merry merlin]

i mean

[true kestrel]

your more likely going to see the boots set

[merry merlin]

its fairly strong tho

[true kestrel]

problem is that CB needs a ton in terms of support

[merry merlin]

i don't see lokix boots much

[true kestrel]

so its not as common

yeah on low ladder ppl don't run boots

[merry merlin]

true

[true kestrel]

you'll see it more on high ladder

[merry merlin]

ah well, by the time i get 1400 elo, lokix will've already been power crept

[wooden finch]

But also like

Even with boots

Still gonna get wrecked

[wooden finch]

It’s one of the top UU mons

If anything you’ll see it more

[true kestrel]

1400 elo is mid laddder for UU

[wooden finch]

But yeah, the band set is rarer due to the prevalence of hazards and the difficulty of removal

Though the boots set will still destroy you

Also the other thing

Isn’t the team extremely weak to hazards?

Excadrill could be blocked pretty easily

[merry merlin]

gen 11 will be out by the time i hit 1700

[wooden finch]

1700 is like top 30 or something

[merry merlin]

by the time i hit high ladder

[true kestrel]

1700 is like top 1

[wooden finch]

Its so dead

Yeah omg it is

[true kestrel]

most lower tier ladders are

[wooden finch]

I just stopped playing after top 100, it makes too long to find a match

😭

[true kestrel]

1700 would make you 2nd in UU, and top 1 in RU, NU, PU

[wooden finch]

Crazy

Anyways, back to the team

https://pokepast.es/c3c2149f4a68198a

This one

Too weak to lokix

Terrible into hazards

Weird Evs

Actually the sets are weird in general

[merry merlin]

wdym, evs are normal for everything except florges

[wooden finch]

Yeah florges

But like the excadrill should prolly be a utility spread

[merry merlin]

mk

[tribal laurel]

a lot of sets are bad..

av florges isnt very good, a big thing of florges is its recovery

x scissor drill doesnt hit anyone, sd is much better

av kleavor cant take hits anyway and ur vulnerable to hazards

and p2 is just bad because its passive

a lot of these mons are just not viable

in the uu meta

[rocky glacier]

agreed

[merry merlin]

lemme guess, weak to rocks: https://pokepast.es/e616d1f10a02c804

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wooden finch]

Pls just use the standard sets

[merry merlin]

hmmm, no

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/89c0e711f1880c97

[true kestrel]

But Tera bug on CB Lokix

Gives you even more power

[wooden finch]

yeah theres no reason not to run tera bug on lokix

80% of the time you are spamming first impression or u-turn

[true kestrel]

Cyclizar is fine

[wooden finch]

think swampert should just be changed to a typical stealth rock pivot set

but then again, you have gastrodon right there

and you get reliable recovery in that

[true kestrel]

Yeah Make pert rocks

Yeah Gastro is better

[wooden finch]

mmm im not sure how much I like iron defense tbh

[true kestrel]

Make dirge boots

Throat spray isn’t all that good

[wooden finch]

yeah

id prolly swap iron defense for whirlwind

you also got dirge right there to fall back on

[true kestrel]

to me whirlwind on skarm is

because it was run to deal with zarude

[wooden finch]

is that good or bad? xD

[true kestrel]

bad

since I don't really see the point of whirlwind

also if you really want to run eggy alola, make it specs

[wooden finch]

stacking up on hazard damage and phasing?

[true kestrel]

its too slow to get cm boosts

[wooden finch]

i was gonna say drop eggy alola all together

[true kestrel]

most of UU runs boots

im saying if they realy want to run eggy

otherwise its outclassed by hyrapple

which has the same typing

[wooden finch]

true

also though

doesnt greninja just get a kill every time it comes in

[true kestrel]

yeah this team has no gren answer

one battle bond boost and its over

[wooden finch]

yup

i mean lokix could come in to revenge kill

but every time greninja comes in you are losing 1 mon

just slap gastrodon on the team ngl

fixes the issue

unless it runs grass knot then its cooked

[tribal laurel]

pls do

[tribal laurel]

cuz there is no way exe-a is a viable uu mon, throat spray skeledirge, and swampert in UU

[merry merlin]

no

[merry merlin]

throat spray is lwk fire

[true kestrel]

you take too much from stealth rocks

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/6b523712621b5f71

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[merry merlin]

yeah, i try to clear stealth rocks as soon as possible with cyclizar

[wooden finch]

look okay, removal is still incredibly inconsistent in sv uu

you generally want to run boots whenever you can, barring certain mons with levitate or resist hazards

[true kestrel]

Also ghost types can spinblock

[merry merlin]

yeah that was the original idea with dragon tail, to remove them if they block

so basically, unless i require it, like for example, lokix, to do maximum damage and potentially avoid taking return damage cuz of ohko, run boots on everything? can i run air baloon on toxtricity though?

[wooden finch]

i mean, the team is still pretty sketchy

toxtricity isnt rlly fast enough, and its pretty frail

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/a51ce0c47f25dca7

[wooden finch]

I still dont get the skeledirge set

I mean, its a defensive wall

why is it modest 0 spatk investment

tera ground is questionable

[merry merlin]

yeah im looking to replace him, but i can't seem to find something thats a fast special attacker i like.

[merry merlin]

tera steel then? but then the weakness to ground remains. tera flying?

[wooden finch]

Skeledirge @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SpD
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Fairy / Poison / Ghost
Bold Nature

• Torch Song
• Hex
• Will-O-Wisp
• Slack Off

this is best

[merry merlin]

hm

[wooden finch]

fairy tera is good defensive tera that lets it beat dark types

toxic is a huge problem for something like skeledirge, which is why tera poison is good

[merry merlin]

the idea with dirge was for it to be a tanky special attacker

[wooden finch]

and tera ghost is just good to remove the weakness and remain a good spinblocker

dirge is built to be a wall

but will o wisp + stab hex still does a ton of damage

it like, ohkos sinistea

[merry merlin]

the sinistea outspeeds and poltergeists

[wooden finch]

after a burn*

[merry merlin]

so that removes ghost tera type

[wooden finch]

0 SpA Sinistcha Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Skeledirge: 176-210 (42.8 - 51%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO

not my point

[merry merlin]

who runs shadow ball on sinistcha

[wooden finch]

for ex if you remove the fire type, excadrill basically cannot break through and spin

[wooden finch]

either shadow ball or hex

[merry merlin]

hex prolly, cuz matcha burns

[merry merlin]

ex is whomst?

[wooden finch]

??

[merry merlin]

i feel like i don't set spikes often enough for spins to be a problem though, smh

ik its prolly dumb

[wooden finch]

well, you should always be setting hazards

[merry merlin]

until your enemy is a shell smash cloyster that nukes everything you have and outspeeds

[wooden finch]

its especially good in uu with the lack of reliable removal

[wooden finch]

thats what priority is for

cloyster isnt even really used in uu, takes a million damage from hazards

[merry merlin]

ppl lead with it, and pray that the enemy doesn't one shot them.

[wooden finch]

average low ladder activities

but it still gets one shot by common priority

[merry merlin]

it works

[wooden finch]

maybe on you 😭

[merry merlin]

somehow i always win when that happens lmao

[wooden finch]

you got like a bunch of diff switch ins that all wall and one shot it back

[merry merlin]

true

[wooden finch]

like keldeo just ohkos it

also it cant beat skeledirge

[merry merlin]

ive never faced it on teams where i had dirge

[merry merlin]

the amount of people who run keldeo in UU is close to 5

though the amount of ppl who play uu is close to 30

[merry merlin]

anything i should replace tox with?

[wooden finch]

even if that is true, that is 1 in 6 which is pretty high

also keldeo is one of the top mons in the tier so

[merry merlin]

must be high in the ladder

[merry merlin]

so is my team more or less okay, now with dirge being fixed

[wooden finch]

https://pokepast.es/be559ca56d7cfa21
something like this would work better

swampert isnt rlly that great in uu

and you still need a greninja answer

[merry merlin]

he isn't bad either.

[merry merlin]

lokix ig, but protean annoying af

[wooden finch]

but you could only come in after something dies

[merry merlin]

why everyone hating on swampert, he is basically gastro but better, no?

[wooden finch]

its not bad, but if its worse than an exact copy, whats the point?

its not

the issue is the lack of recovery

and the ability is kinda useless

[merry merlin]

damn

9gen did really turn everything into stalling and hazards ToT

[wooden finch]

its more just uu not having good answers to it

the spin blockers in uu are strong, and the only defoggers could be knocked off and chipped down pretty easily

[merry merlin]

mandibuzz?

o btw, did you like the names

[wooden finch]

admittedly its pretty good

[merry merlin]

oh, btw, wiuth this team, what do i lead with

[wooden finch]

still could be knocked off, and skarm could come right back to setup spikes

[wooden finch]

leads always depends on the opponents team

[merry merlin]

Hippowdon / Rotom-Wash / Scizor / Iron Jugulis / Skeledirge / Lokix

[wooden finch]

cyclizar is solid though

[wooden finch]

are you playing a match rn? 😭

[merry merlin]

i feel like its start with hippo

[merry merlin]

yeah, gotta test the team lol

[wooden finch]

up to you to figure out, but im talking in general

[merry merlin]

i was indeed correct lol

[wooden finch]

cyclizar is fast, can knock off and u-turn

then regen all its hp

lokix is good too

[merry merlin]

my question to lokix is always: do i start with fimp, or straight up u turn

[wooden finch]

I mean like it depends

thats always the answer, it depends

you cant expect the same thing to work all the time

[merry merlin]

true

[merry merlin]

technically it can

[tribal laurel]

in addition latios crushes this

esp since cyclizar is so bad at dealing with common setters

[wooden finch]

o

hmm

[wooden finch]

wait what actually stops latios aside from strong priority and slowking?

[tribal laurel]

tink, mandi, exca, metagross, jirachi

those can take it muhc better

but when u have several mons who cant do anything to it

it gets dire

[wooden finch]

ahh

[tribal laurel]

u would maybe be able to get away with having a draco switch in and a luster switch in and force it out by making it guess / dont let it in

but u cant do that when ur best option into it is kinda predict and hard lokix

[wooden finch]

hmmm

so I guess just swap cyclizar for excadrill?

no wait

[tribal laurel]

maybe?

[wooden finch]

mandibuzz would make a lot more sense

[tribal laurel]

u become insanely weavile weak

btw

u alr are...

but it becomes way more dire

[wooden finch]

afsgdfadfsgdfdsa

does skarm not handle weavile?

@tribal laurel
https://pokepast.es/9a501018889151c2
would something like this work better?

[tribal laurel]

after knock t axel hurts

and tera ghost sd kinda crumbles it

[wooden finch]

ahh

[tribal laurel]

i think u for sure want slack off and use the mixed spread on slowking. And i think keldeo is a poor switch in cuz its 1. spike weak 2. losing specs hurts

[wooden finch]

👍

gotcha

[tribal laurel]

I remember i got away with it with gastrodon > clod and pickpocket boots tink > slowking

this is how i solved latios + weavileor how i tried to solve it

it still can lose longterm but at least u have outs

[wooden finch]

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Dragon Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Slowking: 390-460 (98.9 - 116.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
im a litttle bit worried about this

[tribal laurel]

mixed spread is 16 sassy

still... tera dragon latios crumbles these teams anyway

[wooden finch]

actually thats a pretty good idea, would need to drop one of the hazard slots, though

[tribal laurel]

i just run encore + t wave

its a pretty shitty rocker anyway

[wooden finch]

then I think theres another problem, thundy-t would be a problem long term I think

I mean thundurus*

https://pokepast.es/d331b6dfbb84953c

[tribal laurel]

252/16+/240 dirge

maybe can solve it

but yes

[wooden finch]

yeah, im just a bit worried though

just gonna volt switch out and the team would be under a lot of pressure rlly fast

and couldnt rlly block it either, grass knot is a viable move

[tribal laurel]

this is gonna pivot to look like my team

https://pokepast.es/0e1eab437e66ccc2

[wooden finch]

xD

[merry merlin]

yeah thats basically what i've been doing smh

[merry merlin]

no rapid spin/defog?

[merry merlin]

what calculator do you use?

[wooden finch]

If the mons are not weak to hazards, no need for hazard control

[tribal laurel]

generally boots spam + a mon who can take rocks cna work

[wooden finch]

It’s just the smogon calc

[wooden finch]

Tbh I don’t even like running hazard control in uu, it’s pretty difficult to remove in the first place and it’s just easier to spam boots, plenty of mons like latios rotom-wash and fighting types don’t mind hazards

[merry merlin]

just have someone on your team run knock off and roar

[rocky glacier]

bootspam in the UU 🥀 😔

why do you run sludge over ep ?

that's my only questions all the other sets make sense

[wooden finch]

dissing the sample team is crazy

[rocky glacier]

what can I say

[wooden finch]

I mean, I would assume to be able to hit stuff like latios

and you could fish for poison

[rocky glacier]

isn't latios psychic type nvm forgot levitate

[rocky glacier]

that makes sense

[tribal laurel]

more so surf > ep

but this is to hit revavroom, skarmory, and tera steel levitate mons

[chrome narwhal]

UU rates is so much less dead

Unlike when I played UU

so peak

[true kestrel]

UU rates is pretty active

its mostly me and H>L providing advice

also nick too

[rocky glacier]

no way surf usage in the big 26

nice

[tribal laurel]

well yeah... not get walled by skarm

fez being a pain hurts

so depends on meta

[tribal laurel]

looks maybe ok but weavile is a huge pain, ice resist scizor is kinda dire and having ur sole other ice resist being dominated by knock off is rough. In addition latios clicks luster purge and claims souls

clod / dirge / skarm teams are gonna have this problem...

also tera fairy / poison > ghost

i think scizor with 0 hazard removal is very very rough

and esp with how bulky this team is

I think sd may work better and trying to figure out how to deal with latios / weavile / sub np hydreigon

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[flint forge]

https://pokepast.es/2b5ab71916afa038

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/0ad986cd2389ba48

[tribal laurel]

LO hydrapple is odd, no electric immune, no hazard setter

kinda odd team

[tribal laurel]

booster slither wing on such a team and set feels odd

I think ice fang and fire fang is bad on donphan

lefties mandi si bad

but its prob usable?

CB wing, boots mandibuzz, standard donphan and u can maybe work it out

[merry merlin]

it does indeed.

[merry merlin]

not really? fire fang kinda cooking the grass and steel types im against

[merry merlin]

imma just replace wing w keldeo ig. and what is standard donphan

https://pokepast.es/eaf02f6c1a8d3d1e

[rocky glacier]

why you put boots on clod

and i honestly slither would be better with specs

even if it would make it redundant with zarude

right now it's just

[proven parrot]

Keldeo-Resolute (Gen 9)

Typing

Water / Fighting

Abilities

0: Justified

Base Stats (BST: 580)

91 / 72 / 90 / 129 / 90 / 108

Weight

48.5 kg (60 BP)

Gender Rate

Genderless

[rocky glacier]

91/90/90 with weakness to grass, psy, fly, elec

torn and tink are good

[merry merlin]

when in doubt, go boots

[merry merlin]

true smh, should i replace wing with infernape (by that i mean an actuall infernape. or emboar)

should i replace zarude, or wing

i feel like zarude just offers a lot more coverage

but wing sweeps hella lot of mons

[merry merlin]

and also smh, my best killers are clod and torn

[flint forge]

been decent

cyc is acc good

but team is clunky w those issues

cuz volt is free

i could add drill

and swap out metagross

but then cyc would be useless welp

[merry merlin]

cyc is honestly underrated

[flint forge]

this

[merry merlin]

js add gastro, or don, or clod

[merry merlin]

metagross is trash smh

[tribal laurel]

ice spinner does better

and fire fang just is so weak

skarm kinda eats it up

[tribal laurel]

im not the biggest fan of double water. Mandi should still be boots

[wooden finch]

its literally the default

again, hazards are hard to remove in uu

kinda hard to justify something like leftovers when you are losing ~30% every switch

[wooden finch]

the other thing is I think he should drop rocks on tinkaton

double rockers are kinda redundant

[flint forge]

its been good and bad

clod water absorb should be good

[true kestrel]

adding on to what hydreigon>Latias said earlier, I would put tera blast on keldeo

lets you beat slowking

thats a potential option if u want that

also this is just general good teambuilding advice, but always have a ground-type on a team

it lets you block volt switch, which is huge in denying the opposing team momentum

[chrome narwhal]

why is eq not enough

besides skarm ig

[rocky glacier]

what doubts give him some lefties

he's ground (so rocks resists) and poison (so tspikes absorption)

[rocky glacier]

zarude has protean but wing hits harder with specs i think

[rocky glacier]

is hazard stacking even that prevalent in UU ? i don't see it that much

[rocky glacier]

something something grassy terrain i guess

just lots of grass type actually

[chrome snow]

It's not probably the right place to ask, but anyone got a gapdos team?

[merry merlin]

i mean, i could make one, but it might not be the best

[chrome snow]

It's fine, i just wanted to use him a bit

But dont know exactly how to do it

[merry merlin]

choice band or scarf afaik

[chrome snow]

Yeah i know, i started playing competitive like 1 month ago i think? and i was playing with a BO pivot apple/gapdos, i enjoyed using gapdos but as i said i dont really know how to teambuild decently rn, and so far i haven't seen a post shift sample using him

[merry merlin]

this might work idk: https://pokepast.es/2fd36646478aeb10

[chrome snow]

Thanks a lot

Btw whats the point of volcanion? I dont really have experience with him

Also toxa, but i guess i understand him a bit

[merry merlin]

volco is a nice fire type, also counters other fire types + poison types

[chrome snow]

What are his checks? T-thund?

[merry merlin]

yeah, along with ground types pretty much

[chrome snow]

Appreciate a lot bro, played 1 game and it was solid, granted its low elo but w/e

Thanks

[merry merlin]

im low elo so like XD procede with caution

[flint forge]

team i made is horrible

nvm

[merry merlin]

at least you realised t yourself

[rocky glacier]

a horrible team is the first step towards a great team

[flint forge]

its got good things but all weak to same thing sucks

[weary jungle]

https://pokepast.es/ef4d73f5c6ee8434

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rocky glacier]

it's fine even though i'm not sure about power gem shocks without herb

[merry merlin]

i assume haxorus is going to be doing haxorus shi, aka 1 shotting everyone, which is fine, i actually don't know if i prefer lokix or haxorus. haxorus for coverage and more damage in general, lokix for momentum gaining.

empoleon is... mid? @wooden finch would tell you better. i would personally run flash cannon and ice beam on it, instead of flip turn and stealth rock

speaking of stealth rock, pls put stealth rock on sandy shocks

mandibuzz is fine

forretress is fine ig, but idk. not that good at anything imo.

gengar is gengar, i've never used him, there are better ghost types imo. but you do you, cant say he is bad

[tribal laurel]

haxorus is just bad... alongside empoleon, forre this is just feeling not up to standard esp with so many mediocre mons

like maybe one or two of them could work but like 4-5?

ur just asking to get run over by power

i think cb haxorus maybe has promise but suffers from so much shit slamming it

[merry merlin]

he isn't that bad. lokix is better tho

[tribal laurel]

if u want a cb mon h-arc, meta, weavile are better

[merry merlin]

metagross???

[weary jungle]

who should i replace them with then

[merry merlin]

haxorus replace with lokix
empoleon replace with gastropod? but ask H>L
forretress with skarm

[daring night]

hi

[weary jungle]

ill make another team with those mons and see

[daring night]

how do u learn the meta

and whats good or not

i havent played showdown in 5 years this is my first day back

[merry merlin]

the /tier command helps @daring night

[daring night]

i see

ive only played gen7 pure hackmon so far

having a bunch of fun

will try to reach top 500 within the next week

im at 1200 rn

[merry merlin]

why are you here in UU rates, go to hackmon rates

[daring night]

where is that? @merry merlin

and sorry to bother u

[proven parrot]

UnderUsed (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• UU updates
• Metagame discussion thread
• Simple questions, simple answers
• Creative and underused sets
• Team bazaar
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/8cf030ceeeb3bf29

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tribal laurel]

sd kix usually is fitting ont hese kind of teams

and take heart no stab manaphy is just super odd

[merry merlin]

yeah i was just trying it out. and idk. i mean, if i have like 2, 3 rounds of setup, after setting up screens, i pretty much sweep everything. if i am against a good team, esp one that has trick, it becomes a pain

[tribal laurel]

gl getting 2-3 rounds of setup

[merry merlin]

i sometimes get them lol

[worthy charm]

https://pokepast.es/8c97b70dea9f3d03

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[worthy charm]

is this good? i stuggle a lot against hisui arcanine and latios

[tribal laurel]

power gem > discharge on s shocks, i think CB ogerpon without removal is bad, av conk runs a lot more sp def, I think manaphy is a bit fast for this kind aof team

Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 228 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Drain Punch
• Knock Off
• Earthquake
• Mach Punch

[molten glacier]

https://pokepast.es/728ae962d1d1497f I tried to make a mono bug team, it feels okay so far but I was wondering if there was anything I could do to improve it

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[molten glacier]

Skarm is rough and it's completely walled by sinistcha but it doesn't seem like there's any other mon in particular it struggles with

[tribal laurel]

well mono bug wont work in uu

but tbh either way working with hat u have is prob the best ur gonna get

[true kestrel]

I would go full HO

[viral flicker]

https://pokepast.es/85c54a664a6dcad4

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[merry merlin]

stun spore is terrible for sinistcha imo, run matcha gotcha, it can burn.
seems like sandy shocks is a setter, so i would recommend running balloon instead of booster.
no pivot? imo CB pivot scizor would work better than SD scizor on this team.
thund-T is fine, even if i don't like the only attacks being a normal and electric ones. yes, you can tera, but what if you alr tera'd?
on azumarill i would replace liquidation with play rough, or alluring voice
haxorus is... mid ig? i would replace it with latios, as you only have 1 SPAttacker on your team, and latios is good overall

[viral flicker]

azu has play rough already tho...

[merry merlin]

im slightly blind it appears lmao

[viral flicker]

you think I can switch tera blast for something consistent like grass knot?

[merry merlin]

then replace liquidation with knock off or trailblaze

[merry merlin]

no im thinking you can switch agillity to something consistent like grass knot

[viral flicker]

actually yea to be fair it will only be able to set up both dances only in screens

[viral flicker]

two special attackers actually..

[merry merlin]

huh. i don't really count sinistcha as a special attacker lol, more like a physical tank with strength sap, and the abillity to burn with matcha gotcha. still though, what role does haxorus play that isn't filled by azumarill?

[viral flicker]

to be honest I wanted to test it

also what's the specfic set for latios?

[merry merlin]

there are multiple? if you want setup, then its cm, luster purge, draco meteor, and recover iirc? elsewise you run specs, trick, flip turn, meteor, and luster

[viral flicker]

oh just asking the specifics, also is psychic noise good for stall

[merry merlin]

i mean, should be? it prevents healing so its more of anti stall

[viral flicker]

so either are good?

[merry merlin]

yeah should be. although you should ask someone more experienced than me tho

[true kestrel]

I would replace iron head with tera blast on Hax

what is iron head for?

most fairy types in UU lose to eq

baring the uncommon enam-t

[true kestrel]

booster shocks is fine

mainly because it can outspeed a lot

this is a HO team so cb pivot scizor doesn't really work

One thing I would do

is make scizor boots

makes you less likely to get into lokix fimp range

I would also replace hax with CM latios

since you would have more special attackers

also don't run choice items on HO

[true kestrel]

trailblaze azu is wayyy to slow

even at +1 you are at 298 speed assuming an adamant nature

you are outsped by neutral natured 100s

you could also swap out liquidation for Knock to beat pex

[tribal laurel]

shocks being complete setup fother for thundy t is rough, and u dont have much once it starts setting up. Haxorus is super bad esp into skarmory, Lokix runs this over way to badly in comparison to other HO teams. I think u need speed

and immediete breaking power

[merry merlin]

ngl its the only one i run. but comfey? and florges? and azumarill? literally every single one except tinkaton is either neutral or resists

[true kestrel]

Florges is in PU

And is unranked on the UU viability rankings

[merry merlin]

stilll see it in UU sometimes

[true kestrel]

Mainly on low ladder

[merry merlin]

true, that would be better

[true kestrel]

Azu and Comfey are only on HO

since they suck on other archetypes

[merry merlin]

true. specifically, i've only seen comfey on sun teams

[true kestrel]

I’ve seen comfey on like HO with CM draining kiss Tera blast

It also has taunt

Problem is that it is a Tera hog

[merry merlin]

yeah

but tbh, HO teams usually have at least 1 tera hog.

[viral flicker]

power gem instead of thunderbolt solves the thundy problem

[merry merlin]

i tried to make a rain team: https://pokepast.es/71ec2c9f9d3efca7

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[merry merlin]

another one: https://pokepast.es/cb76a8afa20217f5

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/b293f5bac5ae56b3

[viral flicker]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-2541570963-6e7t24egs7hont4v7v3waxphr17cwd7pw I tried it and to be honest it was decent, feel like I did some miss-ups a bit while battling

[true kestrel]

I feel like the team needs some more speed

Maybe replace sciz with a scarfer like Gapdos

[true kestrel]

Replace goodra hisui for greninja

Greninja is lethal on rain

Make kilo either boots or specs

Replace drill run for flip turn and make barraskewda choice band

I would make ludicolo weather ball

Over hydro pump

Higher accuracy

And giga drain over Grass knot

Since you hit rotom-w harder

[true kestrel]

Put ice beam on Inteleon

Over air slash

Let’s you shred hydrate

And you can pivot if they go into pex or whatever

Also maybe run a scarf user over Jirachi or Make Jirachi scarf with trick

Your team needs something to deal with Weavile and +1 speed users

[true kestrel]

Duraladon on this team is weird

I would replace cyclizar with excadrill as a hazard lead

Because this looks like a HO team

I would replace duraladon with either tail glow or acid armor/take heart manaphy

[merry merlin]

what the weavile gon do when its up against 4x def deoxys-D tho?

[true kestrel]

That’s if you get deoxys up to x4

All it takes is for a skeledirge to come in and use torch song a bunch to pressure deoxys d

[merry merlin]

true...

[viral flicker]

I need an answer to weavile, gapdos is weak to ice too and scizor gives me guarantee protection also priority isn't any worser then actual speed

[merry merlin]

tera fairy dirge works wonders on weavile.

[merry merlin]

heres what i see you did wrong:
why did you tera type your clod 😭
like it genuinely was a waste of a tera
on turn 15 you should've body pressed lokix, that was an ohko that could've helped you significantly in the future.
good toxic on zapdos
terrible play by scizor trying to go knock off, waste of a sacrifice, imo should've gone thundurus
going skeledirge against slowking who may have went scald is crazy turn 26
and yep, turn 27 you lose most of your hp to a single scald
turn 30, why are we switching into thundurus, when we can switch into ogrepon

so you finally went ogrepon (when it was too late btw, you should've gone thundurus, and ohko'd with sludge bomb) and you went encore instead of knock off.
you should've switched skarm into lokix knock off.
the end play is... okay ig. istg you just forgot that you had sludge bomb on thundurus

[viral flicker]

cut me some slack I panicked my head short-circled about future sight, and generally I was playing safe, on turn 15 did you really except to do the obvious? like literally he can switch skel or slowking again since his lokix can't do much against skarm, I went scizor to make sure I do as much damage as possible to skel, thundy can't even 2hko it, call the turn 27 gamble really seeing the person I'm against is definitely competent they would think I would switch skel out but I didn't, on turn 30 I really didn't want to risk burn bc my rng is bad as hell so I saved up oger, what your saying lacks a bit of critical observation obviously you know what to do now but if you're kinda stressed you won't think the same I did what did, also the encore on last was just to troll the person off a bit, also again I kept oger in I really didn't want to switch it on scald and risk burn, you're right on the last one about switching thundy in at the very end

[merry merlin]

lwk would you like a battle

[viral flicker]

the only decent team I have is this other are...very MEHH and have obvious weakness

[merry merlin]

have yoiu seen my teams?

[viral flicker]

no but definitely better then my hot messes

[viral flicker]

what's your username anyway?

[merry merlin]

ign means in game username

[viral flicker]

oh

[merry merlin]

should i use an old team or make a new one

[viral flicker]

your choice ig

and for god sake PLEASE no stall

[merry merlin]

hmmm k

[merry merlin]

i can't accept friend requests cuz for some reason i am locked

[viral flicker]

how

[merry merlin]

i have no idea. send the challenge

[viral flicker]

let me steal a sample team real quick

[merry merlin]

lmao

sample teams aren't that good imo, cuz i have no clue how to use them, unlike the teams that i make

[viral flicker]

they look from 2023 but at least they look better then mine

[merry merlin]

lmao

[viral flicker]

bro I'm so bad

[merry merlin]

lol how did i win. you have like 200 more elo than me XD

[viral flicker]

it's not even funny

[merry merlin]

i feel like your problem is the same as mine

[viral flicker]

when I was predicting you went the obvious route when I didn't you went the one that I predicted

[merry merlin]

you predict way to much

and i predicted that you would predict so i just went against what would be obvious

[viral flicker]

also that that wisp miss and spd drops really bugged

[merry merlin]

yeah but hey, pokemon battling is gambling

[viral flicker]

this is why I generally don't like playing much and prefer teambuilding I got screwed up by luck WAYY too much it feels like I'm playing a losing game

[viral flicker]

ever got crit+freeze? or got critted on 4 times in a row?

[merry merlin]

ever got frozen on 4 pokemon in a row?

[viral flicker]

3 times in a row actually

but all we're on me, stupid ice beam

https://pokepast.es/f5b982a56d7b4ffe my latest hot mess (it's probably bad)

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[merry merlin]

no sweepers?

[viral flicker]

np hydra

[merry merlin]

not really that good. have you noticed that it mostly gets one shot by lokix if not tera typed? and if tera typed it gets one shot by anyone using close combat?

and its fairly slow, so most other sweepers outspeed it?

[brazen veldt]

Plot hydra is a very good mon

I don’t rate but I’d like to counter that point at least

[merry merlin]

its a good mon, but it is easy to counter

[brazen veldt]

Not necessarily because of its longevity

[viral flicker]

I mean to be fair fairy isn't a bad replacement but steel isn't bad either

also like taka said it's longevity makes it able to live a lot, it doesn't have to sweep everything at once but it can break through by time and switching

[true kestrel]

also that team I was replying to was in reference to the 2nd team you posted

with air slash inteleon

also weavile can just spam SD against deoxys-d

also plot hydra is very good

especially with tera

where it really only has a weakness to psychic

which is not the most common type in UU, with only latios almost always running psychic moves

slowking and metagross (the other 2 UU psychic types only sometimes run psychic moves)

with slowking sometimes using future sight and metagross sometimes using psychic fangs

[merry merlin]

gallade almost always runs psycho cut

[true kestrel]

gallade isn't in UU

its unranked on the VR

its too slow to be a scarfer

[merry merlin]

true... although i have been seeing a lot of it recently

[true kestrel]

its mainly on low ladder

which runs all sorts of goofy stuff

[tribal laurel]

its slow with clod/slowking/mandi/hydrapple

means ur team kinda gets rolled over

Also tera poison dirge runs u over

i would try to make some mons faster

as in swap them with something else

[merry merlin]

tera poison dirge exists?

[viral flicker]

I think but generally fairy is better, although it does depend on the team

it's even less used then tera water but oh well, I don't really like it since it doesn't erase the ground weakness and still can be killed with knock off if it's not healthy

[merry merlin]

i prefer fairy so i can avoid eq

[viral flicker]

also is the speed really that big of deal in a generally really bulky team?

[merry merlin]

https://pokepast.es/c3446e031de0d217

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rocky glacier]

munki seems too frail for leftovers, try specs
slowking could use future sight over slack off for more pressure
lokix is fine

the two others look okay

[wild pine]

https://pokepast.es/70e733b6417b3932 what do i add / remove

[proven parrot]

Hey @wild pine, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9nationaldex team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059714627384115290 instead.

[wild pine]

its uu tho

[rocky glacier]

yeah but NDUU

this is regular UU

try natdexOU as the bot suggested

anyways for starters you have 4 mons

[tribal laurel]

munki wants boots or smth like specs

either way its to frail and weak

and ur team is to slow

donphan + clod is definite overlap

and smth like np drei runs u over

tera poison dirge also runs u over

[true kestrel]

or scarf

[merry merlin]

i frgot i even posted the team there lmao. and yeah, i changed it up a lot. it ended as this :
https://pokepast.es/4a8188a3f8e15455
@true kestrel

[true kestrel]

I think surf is better than hydro pump

on gren specifically

since you cant afford to miss

No rocks on coba?

blizzard on slowking is weird, I would put future sight for some good scenarios involving gren

since it does a lot of damage

[tribal laurel]

BB gren is just not good.. run protean

btw dont run blizzard on slowking

just bad

I think fez gives your team hell

[cinder vine]

https://pokepast.es/5768260e9edcf43d

Hazard stack/semi stall

To counter deofg and rapid spin, i use rocky skarm and defiant zapdos

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[proven parrot]

Heart Swap (Gen 9)

The user swaps all its stat stage changes with the target.

Type

Psychic

Category

Non-Damaging

Power

0

Accuracy

0

PP

10 (16)

Priority

0

Target

Any adjacent

Flags

• Ignores a target's substitute.
• Can be selected by Metronome.
• Can be copied by Mirror Move.
• Blocked by protection moves.

[rocky glacier]

that doesn't seem reliable

also what is hippo doing here

he's just chipping your regenerators

other than that seems good

[merry merlin]

protean just feels mid af on greninja. like even a surf from a gastrodon just deal 50% damage. i'd rather have the extra damage from battle bond, than take protean and have a gimmick ability, who's only use is to give yourself temporary toxic immunity

[merry merlin]

i actually usually run fire blast, no one expects it, and it deals good damage if you predict a switch into a bug, specifically scizor

[merry merlin]

cb donphan,
or coba switch into beat up and let the fez kill itself

[merry merlin]

surf is... lacking ig. pump is basically sometimes the only thing keeps gren afloat, as 50% damage on some neutral tanky mons makes decent work ig

[true kestrel]

Problem is that it does miss, and gren simply can’t afford to miss

If it’s lacking in power maybe make gren either life orb or mystic water

[merry merlin]

nope. its expected to run rocks, so flash cannon is more of a surprise

[merry merlin]

true...welp, if i lose a game because i missed imma switch

[true kestrel]

Flash cannon with no investment hits like a pool noodle

And rocks lets you chip down threats into gren surf range

[true kestrel]

Nah, if you miss hydro pump with gren you die

[merry merlin]

pool noodle for 40% damage on neutral mons

[merry merlin]

i have not spectated that happening. explain what i would have to use pump on and miss to get ohko'd?

[true kestrel]

Like on skarm

252 SpA Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 180 SpD Skarmory: 163-193 (48.9 - 57.9%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO

If you miss once skarm body press is a 2hko

16+ Def Skarmory Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja: 238-282 (83.5 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[true kestrel]

0 SpA Cobalion Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 228 SpD Conkeldurr: 84-100 (20.3 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO

0 SpA Cobalion Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Sinistcha: 96-114 (27.7 - 32.9%) -- 80.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

[merry merlin]

skarm might be the literally only pokemon that you cant hit with something else

[true kestrel]

Also on slither

252 SpA Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Slither Wing: 147-174 (47.2 - 55.9%) -- 77.7% chance to 2HKO

[merry merlin]

does conkeldur even run that much defense? never played it

[true kestrel]

Yes

BU conk does

Flame orb runs less but it’s still only a 3HKO

[merry merlin]

slither wing probably ohko's with first impression, so im switching out anyway

[true kestrel]

UU slithers don’t run first impression lol

[merry merlin]

does sometimes

[true kestrel]

They run BU flame charge

Only on low ladder

Since it’s outclassed by Lokix

[merry merlin]

another thing that i switch gren out to

[true kestrel]

To what, you don’t want to give slither free setup turns

Also switching gives up momentum

[merry merlin]

i would rather give him a setup turn, then get ohko' by close combat

[true kestrel]

Again what are you switching into slither wing

Because it could also use flame charge

And get a+1 speed boost

[merry merlin]

prolly sllowking

[true kestrel]

To outspeed the entire unboosted meta

+1 252 Atk Protosynthesis Slither Wing Leech Life vs. 252 HP / 240 Def Slowking: 482-570 (122.3 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Unless you Tera that’s not an option

[merry merlin]

where did he get the +1

[true kestrel]

From the Bulk up on the switch

[merry merlin]

what SWing runs bulk up??? or booster energy from that matter. its usually pivot

[true kestrel]

That’s slither wing’s main UU set

Been used in tours a lot

Since it’s hard to take down

Bulk up, leech life, eq, flame charge, Tera fire booster energy

[merry merlin]

well if it runs that im absolutely cooked no? booster energy atk + flame charge and it'll wipe the whole team prolly

[true kestrel]

It will

[merry merlin]

• ain't no way in hell, especially if i run surf on greninja, that i am ohkoing slither

[true kestrel]

Just run something like scarf zapdos galar

[merry merlin]

that would replace lokix?

[true kestrel]

It would probably replace gren since you already have a water on your team in Slowking

[merry merlin]

ahh yes. scald + fire blast slowking XD

[true kestrel]

I would personally run ice beam

Since that also hits latios, hydrapple, and water absorb clod

[merry merlin]

oh wait, i forgot that i will need to replace the utility of gren, sigh.

makes sense though

[merry merlin]

why not blizzard though? just setup with chillly reception, and just spam?

[true kestrel]

Blizzard has lower pp

Slowking is going to be alive a lot

You want more PP

[merry merlin]

forgot that pp existed, i rarely run out of it XD

[true kestrel]

Actually it depends on play style, if you want power vs longevity, if you want power go blizzard, if you want longevity go ice beam

[merry merlin]

probably longevity

[true kestrel]

Then go ice beam

[merry merlin]

my current team:
https://pokepast.es/321ba9dc8be07cfd

[tribal laurel]

cb donphan is certainly a choice

i still think lfash cannon coba is just weak

just use heavy slam

and i feel surf > t bolt

walled by exca isnt smth u wanna have

[proven parrot]

New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude bison]

duu goes to smogon double btw

[solar ocean]

oh shoot mb i forgot

[merry merlin]

counterpoint: i need something to hit flying types

[merry merlin]

smh should prolly switch draco meteor for aura sphere

[low summit]

https://pokepast.es/2d7c42b21f78ee9d

how is this team?

im not that exprienced wtih teambuilding in uu

[merry merlin]

i would say run beat up on fezandipiti instead of moonblast

[low summit]

idk shes my gren check

[wooden finch]

if thats your gren check you would need to add a lot more spdef evs

id also like thundurus therian instead of thundurus

[merry merlin]

i think he wantd to run twave prankster?

[wooden finch]

its gonna get shut down pretty quickly by something like clod or other thundurus therians

[merry merlin]

yeah

[chrome narwhal]

the only flying type you need to worry abt is skarm

and surf hits hard enough but why soul dew anyways

change donphan to

utility

should be obvious

but either way

and run specs or smth

draco and luster along with surf is not easy to switch into

btw you have no rocks at all so utility donphan has even more reason to be there

[merry merlin]

fk no

[merry merlin]

mandibuzz doesn't exist? and neither do water types apparently

[chrome narwhal]

draco

you know gen 5 latios yes?

well use it as if it’s gen 5 since it’s UU

[chrome narwhal]

it’s ass tho

bffr