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fast lichen
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yeah i figured lol

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thanks for answering

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open seal
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gterain wants to be ho

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cb meow, non suicide lead exca, and wash tom don’t really work

cinder osprey
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also you don't need terrain extender
even just a few turns of terrain is enough to bring these mons into action

chrome narwhal
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Like Tran and Cobalion.

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Exca needs to be alive most of the time for spin, against hazard stack teams.

open seal
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cb loses momentum

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exca loses momentum

chrome narwhal
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Rotom is a pivot.

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Volt switch into someone.

open seal
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you don’t need a pivot on ho

tribal laurel
open seal
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lmfao

tribal laurel
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sounds less annoyed and more defending why its that wya

chrome narwhal
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Pretty sure I added a Lokix too.

tribal laurel
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i cant visualize it well

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tribal laurel
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what do h-arc do

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idk about terrain extender

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idk if koko ran extended with lucha

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i may run lefites or smth like LO with SD

queen fjord
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tribal laurel
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and i feel lefties / cb

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would be much better

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as u dont need all 8 turns and u just need one to activate th eseed

open seal
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if your running multiple seed guys

sage adder
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I recently subbed out vest Hydrapple for Latios

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Still feels off

dreamy onyx
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sage adder
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Does it work on mobile

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Cause I’m not at my house

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There we go

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I also recently swapped stealth rock for swords dance on terrakion

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Is there anything egregious or is it a skill issue

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I’ve reached like 1350 on ladder so it’s not that bad a team

cinder osprey
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hmm
go boots on harc please
it doesn't need band to do big damage
and put stealth rock instead of wild charge while we're at it

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@sage adder

sage adder
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Anything else

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The reason I had band is cause arc can break through threats with resisted hits over the course of a mid length game

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I’ve done it a few times

cinder osprey
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also the rotom set is weird
change the evs to something more defensive

sage adder
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Physdef or speed

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Spdef*

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Or like a mix of both

cinder osprey
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physdef
use the sample set
it's quite good

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ice beam on latios is questionable
you could run a soul dew set with recover and it would still work well

sage adder
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Some

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Done*

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Ice beam was there for sinistcha

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This team gets kinda blanked if I don’t have arc

cinder osprey
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your offensive mons overlap alot
sinistcha walls all day long

sage adder
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Yeah I know

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Is there anyone I should replace to deal with it better

cinder osprey
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it's gonna be one of the physical attackers

sage adder
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They’ve all served me so well ugh

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At least one of them gets a kill every game

cinder osprey
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well these are all hard hitters

sage adder
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Yeah

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Mmmmmmm metagross might have to be the weak link

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It gets walled by trick room teams

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Which are more common than I thought

cinder osprey
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trick room is a bastard

sage adder
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Who do I replace the former goat with

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Me when I have to kill GDP because he’s not good enough to beat a teacup

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I’m looking at Zarude or Lokix

cinder osprey
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i'm testing rn and meta does not perform very well

sage adder
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Crying about it

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Whatever I add I’m calling it Theseus cause this team started out as a choice band pex team

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Evolved into a metagross team

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And now it’s terrakion

cinder osprey
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you lack speed control

sage adder
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Mmm yeah

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Meowscarada maybe?

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Great speed plus u turn

cinder osprey
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i mean meow looks quite nice here

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considering this struggles against slowking

sage adder
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Meow it is

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So I’m gonna go with max speed max attack

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Jolly

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We go orb or boots

cinder osprey
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scarf

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since this needs speed

sage adder
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Gotcha

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I’ll test this when I can

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Glad it wasn’t too much of a skill issue lol

cinder osprey
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also why tera grass on terra?

sage adder
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Didn’t wanna to Tera flying

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Grass resists ground

cinder osprey
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air balloon and tera ghost
now you wall hawlucha

sage adder
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I haven’t run into any luchas

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But I’ll take your word for it

cinder osprey
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it looks nice now
i'm still a bit bothered because you stack 2 rock types

tribal laurel
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its very very unlikely

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also they do similar things

cinder osprey
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the defensive mons lose to thundy btw

tribal laurel
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and id drop both for cornerstone maybe

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latios should be max speed

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btw with knock mandi u need to deal with drill well

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im not a fan of mandi that is passive asf

sage adder
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That’s fair, it’s basically just been hazard removal and pivot

tribal laurel
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soooo...

Terrka + h-arc -> Ogerpon-C
Max hp latios -> max speed latios with potentially soul dew
ice beam -> recover
Bullet punch -> Stealth rock on metagross
Max sp. atk on rotom-w -> Max Hp and Max Def
Adjusted the spread on meta
Use the last slot to deal with drill

cinder osprey
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mandi does its job well enough for me

sage adder
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Latios is max speed now

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Metagross is gone

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Sample set for rotom

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I can’t test rn cause I’m wiring shit

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New paste

cinder osprey
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i still wanna swap one rock type out for something else tbh

sage adder
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See what works

cinder osprey
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cinder osprey
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you know what i’ll just put heatran in there
works well with rotom

sage adder
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o7

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This team has been super theseused lmao

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Team building was never my strong suit (ranbats blitz ladder player)

cinder osprey
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you could make a version of this team with hydreigon recommendations instead since they’re way better than me

sage adder
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Is that a person or the pokemon

dreamy onyx
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The user #1059743348728004678 message

sage adder
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Oh that one

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Yeah I’m only half paying attention

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Tag me if you need something ig

sage adder
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Did some testing, this new team is performing infinitely worse

tribal laurel
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tbh idk about scarf meow

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feels overkill

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well act id be more concerned about h-arc + terrak

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and ur def core is just rotom-w + mandi

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ur 6-0ed by fez

sage adder
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I haven’t run into a single fez

tribal laurel
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so my solution is to use the standard rotom set

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its a-...

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ladder

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switch one of h-arc and terrak

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and maybe fit in a heatran there

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the thing is cornerstone still clicks cudgel

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and slams the entire team

tribal laurel
# queen fjord https://pokepast.es/2fe4959aa312cec5 it's a balanced team with Meowscarada How c...

looks usabel

  • hydrapple is a bit of a pain , with a lack of av torn-t it kinda smacks every time it gets entry on slowking and u cant really do much about it esp specs
  • I think meow is also a painful MU for u, coba gets low kicked and easily chipped so ur relying a lot on mandi (t axel food) nd slowking (knock food)
  • I would slot heatran > coba with flame body and maybe tera fiary
  • Fez is annoying, but with heatran maybe is more doable
queen fjord
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But I do know how Heatran is played today

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I only know Heatran from gen 7 and 8

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Not 9

round hamlet
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sage adder
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Yeah the new team performs not well

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It really misses priority and can’t do enough damage

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Ugh

cinder osprey
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which one

tribal laurel
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for the kind of team comfey wants to be on

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also slow

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relies on rillaboom for damage and slowking + skarm give u lots of trouble

sage adder
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I swapped Latios for conk and it’s working pretty well

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Guts flame orb

cinder osprey
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well i mean i've said i'm not good at this

sage adder
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Also @tribal laurel I couldn’t find a place for a heatran

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The team needs priority

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Here’s the current paste

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Solid keepers are rotom, buzz, dirge

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Conk is unproven

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Meow can get kills every now and then

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I might sub back in metagross lol

tribal laurel
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scarf meow

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is like blazing fast

sage adder
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It is fast yeah but it gets out sped in Sun by Lilligant

cinder osprey
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you still want priority move you know

sage adder
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Meow gets out sped by most weather sweepers in their weathers

tribal laurel
sage adder
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I’ve run into it more times than cornerstone Ogerpon and fez combined

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Which is to say, 4 times I think

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Fez I still haven’t seen

cinder osprey
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low ladder people don't use fezant alot

sage adder
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Ah

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Why

cinder osprey
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idk maybe they just don't think that this would do much

tribal laurel
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it takes a couple of weeks

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for them to catch up

sage adder
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Gotcha

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Tbf I’ve used fez plenty of times in ranbats and that guy is literal ass

cinder osprey
sage adder
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What about the UU metagame makes it good

sage adder
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And spread poison over the course of a long game?

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Also weather ball with no weather

cinder osprey
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chilly reception summons snow

sage adder
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Oh right

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Didn’t see that

cinder osprey
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basically boltbeam

sage adder
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Pretty good set on the conk

cinder osprey
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but thundy and conk does jackshit to ho so the rest are there to sponge hits

sage adder
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Do you have a physical pivot

cinder osprey
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nah

sage adder
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Hm

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Honestly I can’t see what fez even does here

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Maybe I’m just behind the times but that guy is kinda just sitting there

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I’d recommend some sort of physical pivot

cinder osprey
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again it sponges stuff
lokix kills my team if it weren't for the bird

sage adder
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Is that all it’s there for

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What kind of hits other than like first impression does it take well

cinder osprey
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also taunt shutdown many status moves
no cheeky stuff here

sage adder
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Ah

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Hm

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Cobalion could be better

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Double resists lokix

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Faster taunt

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Thunder wave utility

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Volt switch

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Actually offensively threatening on occasion

cinder osprey
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torn whoops that one

sage adder
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You’ve got 1.5 guys that can take earthquakes

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Does it?

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Could you EV it to live a bleakwind and paralyze it

cinder osprey
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eh
this one lacks recovery
makes lokix matchup worse in long run

sage adder
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Mm yeah

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I forgot about recovery

cinder osprey
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bird walls some stuff all day long
coba is for more aggresive stuff

sage adder
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Yeah

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Never thought I’d see the day fez was useful

cinder osprey
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i have a team that reach top 500 once and it has fez in it

sage adder
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Well yeah

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I’ve been told fez is all over ladder

cinder osprey
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honestly i haven't seen it that much

sage adder
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Weird

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Yeah I can’t really see a weak link from just the paste

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Is there anyone you just never click

cinder osprey
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no i don't think so
my last slot rn is conk but that could change
the previous 5 work very well

tribal laurel
frail burrow
open seal
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at the very least 263

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for base 70s

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that torn ev spread is also bad

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i like Lati, Thund, Torn volt turn tho

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could benifit from spikes

open seal
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azu>washer tbh

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you need a phsydef guy

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washtom is a solid pivot

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issues vrs moldy exca tho

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could go ability sheild mayb

tribal laurel
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whihc is the last thing u want

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no phys def wall

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i would make latios -> slowking

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gives u some defensive answers

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and pivots in stuff like thundy-t + weather ball

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pivots meow in

open seal
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it’s a scarf rude

tribal laurel
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didnt u say scarf rude -> meow

open seal
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😭

sage adder
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Retooled it

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Works MUCH better

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Almost loses to blissey

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Still working on dirge

sage adder
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I think I need something to deal with keldeo

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I’ve been running into more fez’ and thanks to the heatran yall told me to put on it’s been lights out

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But keldeo blanks my team

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I had sinistcha on it for a while but it didn’t really do much aside from deal with keldeo

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Played a role in my 126 turn win

open seal
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gang

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u have a latios

sage adder
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Oh

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Hey man I was just at the dmv

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My brain isn’t exactly on point

open seal
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you also have a spdef washer

sage adder
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Also I adjusted Dirge’s EVs to be like

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Better

open seal
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fire

sage adder
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252 hp 92+ def 164 spider

open seal
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fix heatrans, washer, and conk next

sage adder
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Spdef

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Conk stays how it is

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That guy has been invaluable

open seal
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Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 68 Atk / 220 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Close Combat
  • Knock Off
  • Facade
  • Mach Punch
sage adder
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Takes out torn’s with resisted drain pinches

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Punches

open seal
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k

sage adder
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I’ve run through dual weather gods with him

open seal
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id recomend using the smogdex ecvs

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for tran

sage adder
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Mhm mhm

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I’ll get on that when I’m home

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Red 13 on its way to go 1 for 3 on magma storm every game

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Istg my specific heatran needs glasses

tribal laurel
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feels slow

sage adder
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Blissey replay lol

sage adder
tribal laurel
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the teeam feels slow

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in general

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like fastest mon being latios

sage adder
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Yeah I know

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I don’t usually need the speed

open seal
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me when

sage adder
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I’m right below ladder with this gang

open seal
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no speed control

sage adder
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~1350 elo

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Mach punch usually works

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Plus I have volt switch flip turn u-turn

open seal
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thats not speed control

sage adder
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I know

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Priority usually works in place of a fast mon

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For this team

open seal
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yes i understand that

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i meant the switch moves

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😭

sage adder
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Yeah I use those to maintain momentum

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Meaning if I expect a fast Mon to come in I can switch out to a bulky one to deal with it

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Or I could click drain punch

open seal
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woa

sage adder
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Drain punch is surprisingly good at just obliterating the weather gods

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Fuck it we not very effective

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open seal
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also me when psyshock

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luster purge is right there

cinder osprey
open seal
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wild charge?

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idk

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it’s

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fine

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focus blast keld is ass

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go Aura or Secret

cinder osprey
open seal
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luster purge is right there…

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idk

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psyshock is fine

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to really shit on stall go psy noise

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:3

cinder osprey
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8 pp is not much

open seal
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that’s fair

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but uh

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fb keld

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what it do

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besides miss and eat shit

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@open seal

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@cinder osprey

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i’m too eepy…

cinder osprey
open seal
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fire

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ignore the self ping

tribal laurel
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than u think

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focus blast has been used to snipe stuff like hydrapple

open seal
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!!

tribal laurel
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maybe so

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but aura sphere is non existant

open seal
tribal laurel
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maybe

open seal
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i use aura…

vague fulcrum
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how can i improve tbis team

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this*

open seal
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tribal laurel
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btw

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this feels like smth someone would use in the first month of sv uu

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being out of beta

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the thing is that one of these mons are really good now

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well a good

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tribal laurel
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the team is very very weak defensively

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conk likes to be pivoted in so id run a more defensive team that can take a hit and bring it in

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mons like rotom-w

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fez

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torn-t

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lean monolith
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like i said before the deoxys could be updated, and have it focus sash + hazards to help your team sweep.

Replace mew with revavroom

Have greninja instead of sinistcha

Make Lokix tinted lens black glasses with tera dark swords dance knock off sucker punch and protect

Replace haxorus with salamence

Have thundurus over donphan

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@spring root

spring root
spring root
lean monolith
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but yes lead off with deoxys to set up hazards

spring root
lean monolith
spring root
lean monolith
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just change intimidate for moxie

spring root
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on deoxys?

lean monolith
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personal preference really

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salamence

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the ability

spring root
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ohh okay lowkey i kinda mess with moxie ill try intimidate tho cuz if i do dragon dance im likely to get the first hit off anyway so his sp attack nerf from intimidate wont matter

lean monolith
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it keeps you alive more cause of roost healing you up as well

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but moxie does what it does

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chrome narwhal
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Beartic Rain test. Thoughts?

chrome narwhal
cinder osprey
chrome narwhal
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💔

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So.. With Barra, how about it? In place of either Beartic or Lokix.

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Let’s say in place of Lokix for now since I wanna keep the gimmick of Beartic rain.

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Set of CC, liquidation, flip turn, aqua jet, or potentially remove one of the moves for protect against Lokix.

cinder osprey
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i can tell if a team is good or not but i can't really give advice because i'm not good

chrome narwhal
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Fair enough.

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In all thoughts, this is most definitely a gimmick team. Beartic ain’t exactly great. But y’know, for shits and giggles.

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tribal laurel
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so id prob make thundy-t into a torn-t

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and conk into a coba maybe

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... well the team needs to either be full HO or maybe tone it back and remove reva and figure from there

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Def exca + Slowking > Car can likely fit

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spring root
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yooo where can i post my ou team need opinions

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brisk palm
tribal laurel
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that isnt uu

tribal laurel
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aside from beartic who isnt even that good

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it doesnt do much

brisk palm
tribal laurel
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there is a sneasler

brisk palm
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Yeh and unless showdown is broken it works in uu

pure jasper
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Mister president, the 281982th person who came to the wrong place for doubles rates had shown themselves

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compact bobcat
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i need some advice please

jolly berry
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what advice in specific

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what are you struggling against

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also make Basculegion 0 attack so you get slightly less Foul Play damage (it doesn't help lol you still get 2 tapped)

compact bobcat
jolly berry
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is the extra 2% worth it

jolly berry
compact bobcat
compact bobcat
jolly berry
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u-turn i think
knock off and traxel are too important

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i'd say this is a 4 move slot syndrome moment

compact bobcat
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Kay

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cinder osprey
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half this team gets bodied by meow

chrome narwhal
# cinder osprey half this team gets bodied by meow

I wouldn’t say so. It’s a tie between my Meow and theirs, my Gren can KO w ice beam if I’m not wrong, Arma and Hawlucha can deal w it with endure and unburden cc, and Deoxy is sort of gambling w focus blast, but you always do that.

brisk palm
chrome narwhal
brisk palm
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Maybe take like 60ish from speed because 2x speed from weak armor is already very fast

chrome narwhal
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I’ll do some calcs and see how I can live a few deadly attacks while keeping my power.

cinder osprey
brisk palm
cinder osprey
brisk palm
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Meow

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Slowing srry

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Not meow lol

cinder osprey
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it only needs to tank one hit so meow can go in

brisk palm
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What's meta in uu

compact bobcat
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Stall

tribal laurel
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no

tribal laurel
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idk

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this feels fishy asf

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first add terrain extender on indee

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i would make gren extransensory

marble apex
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I'm not really a great team builder and I'm not expecting any better opinions from more experienced people than mid at best, but can anyone think of a good 6th here, and is there anything somewhat mandatory that I'm missing within the sets or are they actually ok? https://pokepast.es/0438870d03d27047

I feel like Glaceon's set should be better

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and trick meow

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curious

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I like Glaceon to the point I wanna make it at the very least somewhat meta

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Glac and Pex spreadsconcern

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Yea.. 😔 Tera Ground Blast helps with coverage, tho

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https://pokepast.es/870fbd909351732e I was trying to make a team around Regi and sticky webs I think it turned out good but I don't know what to put in the last slot that Greninja is in

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3 Dragon type attacks on Regidrago too...

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I'd also probably use Quiver Dance instead of U-turn on Ribombee

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https://pokepast.es/49ff59211070772c im very new to making teams and comp but have been getting alot of wins with this team i made in uu doubles after alot of adjusting for a few days im just trying to see what i can change to make it better

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Thoughts?

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There’s supposed to be HP ev’s, lemme fix that.

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Ok thx

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cb kix, cb meow, and relying on cyclizar

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sounds like doom

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also toic fez isnt good

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run beat up or heat wave

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or even taunt

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also slowking without slack off or t wave

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kinda sucks

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i think kix should be boots and meow should be boots

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eh it can work but skarm is a pain

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Skarmory -> standard skarm

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you want axel on meow for a torn check

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and a ground type so you don’t get mowed down by double dance thundy

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i personally don’t like using fez but i can understand the appeal in meow meta

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# twilit harbor https://pokepast.es/4fdaba3923775d1f
  • meow without axel feels weak esp ito skarm, u def notice it.
  • This is a np torn t spread on a utility torn t set, looks odd, i would change the spread... Modest tran in such a meta is idk,maybe can work but i run protect on def heatran instead. It can maybe work but i feel vs gastro / skarm teams its gonna be a pain and either u want taunt or you want a more defensive set
  • Meow + Lokix + Torn-t without heat wave feels miserable into skarm + gastro esp since rotom-w is fother into it and u dont really have good long term plans into it
  • u also get ran over by HO

An easy change i feel is making heatran taunt > protect as on offensive sets it can accumulate a lot of damage especially with good reads into gastrodon. I would make the torn a thundy-t to give you a option into electrics and also lokix and meow u turn -> thundy-t which can bully them

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conk feels odd

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like the team def doesnt struggle at breaking stuff

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but also gastrodon shits out spikes and if u cant get enough going with conk then ur kinda owned by hazards and by meow

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Can i drop it for band azu?

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Or metagross

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https://pokepast.es/d6fb7fea819e748b don't mind the latios set, it works trust. other mons need tweaking, hawlucha sucks, and idk what's best for cohesion, any recommendations help.

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sd rude w/ no trailblaze is more breaker than cleaner

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# tribal laurel if ur gonig for smth like this i would full send into HO. Make gren BB, Dirge ma...

https://pokepast.es/15772ec35e758af1 Firstly, thank you, I listened to the advice which was very helpful, though I'm not too familiar with hyper offense teams so I settled a bit for what I'm comfortable with, though it is sorta a fully setup offensive team. I opted for slowking over deo mainly because I don't wanna throw away setup sweepers immediately if the opponent still has teras and hp, and deo is very frail + doesn't switch in/out well. I added cobalion to discourage dark moves (half my team is weak to them), and I'm trying out the dirge set that was recommended, but idk how tf to make it work. I detailed the main problems in the notes for the paste. I agree with the premise behind the changes suggested, but I think dirge is starting to hurt now that I don't have hazard removal, and it is a bit harder to defend against opposing setup sweepers, especially with my limited priority. hopefully this team looks a bit cleaner now, but pls help with dirge.

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i think slowking andcoba are just to slow

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in addition specs gren on such a team is odd

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flame charge dirge i think runs max speed

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and sciz wants max speed to creep stuff such as mandibuzz

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skarm

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also... calm mind + draco

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calm mind > draco*

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this results in you having some form of threat potential when they dont proc it

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After a ton of testing, slowking is working out, cobal not so much, I think cobal really suffers against spatkers, who are almost all faster than him, but slowking can tank like hell and regens out. I do gotta say tho, the dirge set isn't working out for me. It could be a skill issue, but I think I might change it back. I did also try out the calm mind set, but it doesn't combo well with agility as it takes too long to get going, and even with max speed calm mind it still gets outsped by a ton, especially every scarf user and meow. I tried out speedy scizor, though it seems a lil too situational and the slower u-turn seems to synergize well with the rest of the team. I'm gonna play around with the dirge set, but you're completely right about cobal, I'll try to find a diff hazard setter, I just need damage too, so I'll look into arcanine, excadrill, t-tar, and heatran. I just dunno if they'll be about to keep up. I might try out scarf kleavor but idk, he seems a bit outmatched in the UU meta. Oh and life orb greninja is much better, ty for that.

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flamebody tran is a must

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could consider rhyperior so u dont lose to stabs thudy-t

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Or is there a physically defensive excadrill spread

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# restive tusk https://pokepast.es/6da129d225dc7ace

Used some sets I found on an anti-meta thread; as well as a standard SS Lokix and Tornadus.

This team is pretty weak to electric types, especially rotom wash. It feels like Heatran is the weakest link and if anyone should be replaced its him. I think a ground type Pokemon would be good but I'm not sure what; maybe Mamoswine or Flygon

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@trim snow Ima tag you only for this one ig

https://pokepast.es/0354d68d84aa5133

I restructured the team slightly; and didn't max out Flygon's speed for HP's sake. Thought it was pointless that I could outspeed most things after one DD so I made it to the 420 speed stat margin after a dd

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Also gave Lokix axe kick to deal with Ttar and tera steels; they kept popping up

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I'd like to change Tornadus' tera type but I'm not sure what to; might do fire for STAB on heat wave as well as resist bullet punches from scizor. Thats where the matchups I usually end up having get to

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but to fix this is wondering what can i remove

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also torn without u turn isnt good

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# tribal laurel that looks like a DPP empo with SV spread, dd flygon is bad cuz its just not go...

I chose Flygon because I kept coming across t wave and strong electric types; so I just wanted a ground type to be immune :p. You're right it's a bad matchup against Skarm but thats also why Tornadus has heat wave, Flygon's there to just switch in and get one dd off and take care of the tier's offensive threats.

For Lokix yeah I agree with axe kick, I might change it back to swords dance. Idt u turn would work on this set since I this version isn't speedy

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The Empoleon is a set I found on the forums that I tweaked; this guy completely walls Latios and most special attackers

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And aqua jet is there to deal with sash sets

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For Manaphy I also got this set from the forums, take heart being included isn't meant to stat boost, it's meant to heal status, the added bonus of a stat buff is great too. I've come across a few matchups where if Manaphy couldn't raise its sp def it would've lost the match

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For Mandibuzz that makes sense

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I don't get what the point is of u turn on a speedy mon, he's outspeeding most of the tier anyways and other than breaking sash sets and chip damage I don't really get it

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Knock off + Taunt provide way better utility

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Heat wave deals with Skarmory pretty well; and Bleakwind storm's a good STAB move that just gets the job done sometimes

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I would think boots kix works better

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the empo set pretty sure gets walled by latios

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ah nvm it walls latios but flip turn > ice beam

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and helps leep advanatge

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It's been wonderful btw

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I wouldn't have thought of the tt + th combo

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flip turn > aqua jet

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i meant

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im way to tired

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ill check in tomorrow

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thundy-t farms slowking

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or well can switch into t wave

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oh and zarude farms status reliant mons

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@tribal laurel You were so right with Thundurus, I found him really useful. For Lokix I decided on sd for its last move slot. I also got rid of Mandibuzz and replaced her with Scizor, better both offensively and defensively.

I still have Manaphy but I'm looking to replace it as I have scarf Thundurus as a strong special attacker, and Empoleon's actually able to withstand hits while dealing damage.

Manaphy just doesn't have the longevity to tank before setting up, especially with hazards, and even then it's not fast enough to properly sweep.

I'm thinking of a bulky physical attacker, maybe Metagross

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esp with cb tar

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i would make ttar lefties if u wanna keep specs apple

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Conkeldurr is coologerooh

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Ignore the double twave I forgot to change that

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why do u have lead deo-s

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i also feel lokix should be boots

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and have something for keld

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so deo-s -> latios

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sounds fine

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i would make exca here sand rush SD

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btw...

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why do u have 4 rockers

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He got tired of hazard removal

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Changed Golurk to tera ghost cause I want a lil boost in power and still be able to spin block.

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# cunning cipher https://pokepast.es/931143408fa37575 Can some1 rate my teammIm a Beginner I'd l...

the thing is this team is quite out of place.. rotom-h hasnt been good in some time, BD azu doesnt fit on such teams, and LO mamo doesnt really wanna deal with rocks esp when its walled by rotom-wash

I think mamo can be made into a never melt ice set or a boots set with knock off last. Slowking Can use chilly reception > future sight and relaxed > bold.

Azu can likely be dropped since mamo is the breaker and can be something defensive like a boots torn t

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I am thinking scizor can also be a cobalion maybe

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is sr on mamo good

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hard to fit

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i figured

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does cobal get pivoting

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also shoutout portless slowking

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and random ass azu

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it feels like latios wants to be pivoted in but u have a deo s

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i would switch deo s out

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This team folds to gren

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maybe make it a kix

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well i figured it folds to gren

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Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 16 Atk / 72 Def / 252 SpD / 168 Spe
Jolly Nature

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  • Earthquake
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I have an SD drill spread that is way more fat

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It folds to bb gren 😭

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u can keep that SD drill

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spread

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but also make torn av

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helps

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well

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taunt coba then?

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allows u to check some stuff like luster purge latios

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t wave coba is fine

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I just like having taunt

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i was thinking of t wave rotom-w to snipe HO

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the thing is kix allows smth to revnege it

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also make coba timid

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like I tried building a team around deo s

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u need to have quite an aggro team with deo-s

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so id maybe make the latios a hydrapple

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Being triple weak to fighting sucked so I decided to put Torn on the team to cover that

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It doesn't matter too much with Greninja though because protean

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Metagross is there to give my team a second fairy resist and set rocks up (so Ttar can run CB)

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Bullet punch gives my team some priority since I already have two earthquake mons

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Ogerpon-C takes advantage of sandstorm and helps my team with Rotom-W and other water types

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My only concern for this team is that it's weak against Lokix, and it can struggle into opposing Excadrill if it gets a speed boost

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i feel rn u may want to go flame body heatran > coba as it gives u an answer to like lokix and hydrapple + heatran are good

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Hmm

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Ok

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Offensive heatran?

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(Rotom twave)

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ok one of drill or heatran has to be defensive

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i would make heatran defensiv

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and exca lefties

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lefties stil goes a long way

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in the end im unsure how well of a picture i can draw, u have to play pretty aggro with deo s

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also.... id run 234 speed or smth

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outspeeds +1 drill

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and smack it with superpower

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i was also considering tera stellar in my head

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psycho boost often misses a bit of chip

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solves 2 problems in my opinion

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u talked about being triple weak and latios allows u to cover that

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ogerpon-c often times may be able to but going from tar (fat breaker) -> cornerstone (antoher fat breaker) feels anti synergy

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Ooh alrighty

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i would also consider sp def lefties on ttar

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and boots on torn t

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but i think this is alr?

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im unsure, i dont build sand regularly

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I experimented with Coballion > Metagross and Slowking > Cornerstone as well

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Not sure if that'll work

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I'll try out your suggestions too though

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Scarf or soul dew?

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Ooh I like Heatran though, dunno why I didn't try it out

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i think soul dew is nice here

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latios also checks keldeo

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and can stop conk

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i feel it goes ham tho vs it

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exca, heatran, and ttar

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I see

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u have to be careful into it

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Torn should help out against Conk though

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if it can land bleakwind

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Also, who should be my stealth rock setter?

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Heatran and Ttar are both good options, but both don't really have suggested alternatives to their sets

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it can get a bit rough

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I see

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Heya, new here. I recently made a team with all three lake guardians, wondering how it looks. I’ve had modest success thus far.
Klefki (M) @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Light Screen
  • Reflect
  • Dazzling Gleam
  • Thunder Wave

Araquanid @ Muscle Band
Ability: Water Bubble
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature

  • Liquidation
  • Leech Life
  • Protect
  • Sticky Web

Wambu (Chandelure) (M) @ Wiki Berry
Ability: Infiltrator
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Calm Mind
  • Shadow Ball
  • Fire Blast
  • Dark Pulse

Verity (Mesprit) @ Mago Berry
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Calm Mind
  • Mystical Power
  • Draining Kiss
  • Energy Ball

Valor (Azelf) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Mystical Power
  • Dazzling Gleam
  • Flamethrower
  • Shadow Ball

Acuity (Uxie) @ Big Root
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 128 Def / 128 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Mystical Power
  • Tri Attack
  • Shadow Ball
  • Giga Drain
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Also araquanid is OU

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I will also say, stacking three psychic types, none of which are particularly good, is going to lead to it team with significant issues, so don't expect this team to ever really do well above low ladder, at least not without being piloted by an especially good player (only adding that part because I've seen people like poke aim and blunder do surprisingly well with terrible teams on mid or even borderline high ladder, but very few people are that good, and being good at the ladder isn't even exactly the same as being good in tournaments)

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And araq is ou

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Donphan @ Leftovers
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EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature

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maybe this donphan set over clod

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Tried building a HO team around Haxorus as the sweeper

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I think haxorus works much better as a breaker with band and first impression for revenge

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there is a glaceon first of all

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why is there one

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Because I want to use it.

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but...

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or glaceon can work as a wish CM

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and amnesia clod

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and i heard lokix was good

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crude bison
hallow spindle
potent ledge
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tribal laurel
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also team is slow

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smth i would prob do is swap kix for mandibuzz

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and make slowking a rotom-w

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i think making conk a latios in that case could also work quite well

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but that is smth one needs to draft ideas for

potent ledge
potent ledge
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prob will keep slowking too since I like the synergy with lokix

tribal laurel
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hmm ok

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u can go mandi + drill > Slowking and Tink

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u can likely replace thundy t with latios

potent ledge
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honestly I might try wash, drill and latios to see how that works

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lowky I might expieriment with that trip and make another team

crude bison
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and changing rocks from clod to spikes and knock off from tinka to rocks

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chrome narwhal
tribal laurel
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I like AV Tornt because it’s like, the sp. def guy.

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But boots Hydra is an option.

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Just sometimes helmet beats Skarm with +2 draco and after their brave bird recoil stacked with helm damage.

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Very nice for a team that doesn’t like Skarm much.

crude bison
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knock on thunder was just for utility and i wanted to try it out

chrome narwhal
crude bison
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idk what to use as the attacker

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lokix might work

chrome narwhal
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I’d honestly convert to bulky offense or stall.

crude bison
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nvm too weak to fire

chrome narwhal
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Semi stall isn’t really hitting.

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Stall isn’t too hard to build around, just yk.

crude bison
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i mean yeah but what can i use as a full stall

chrome narwhal
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Lots of regen and unaware.

crude bison
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oh wait blissey isn’t OU

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yeah doable

chrome narwhal
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You can use Blissey or Chansey.

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Both are good.

crude bison
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isn’t blissey overall better

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due to boots

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oh last question

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do i run all boots

chrome narwhal
chrome narwhal
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Most people actually.

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But Skarm and other mons like helm/lefties.

crude bison
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what really hold me back with that was knock off

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it’s like most stuff there have knock off

chrome narwhal
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Yeah.

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Some people like Gastrodon.

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Sticky hold.

crude bison
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oh

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that’s a smart thing to play with

chrome narwhal
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Others like Quagsire/Clodsire for unaware.

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Maybe both.

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Water absorb and unaware on one or the other.

crude bison
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oh :)))

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those are my favourite

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ok thanks for the help

chrome narwhal
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Just be careful with balloon Excadrills.

crude bison
chrome narwhal
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I’ve found balloon Excadrill, taunt Heatran, and trick user a problem for stall.

chrome narwhal
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They only run balloon or lefties.

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And sometimes band for sand rush immediate pressure.

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That’s rare though.

crude bison
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thought all of them go offense

chrome narwhal
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Swords dance Excadrill still uses air balloon.

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In fact, that’s my set rn.

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Hard walls Clod and gets a free spin.

crude bison
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does salamance work

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flamethrower

chrome narwhal
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Salamence for stall? I really doubt that.

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Skarmory works most of the time, especially with rocky helmet.

crude bison
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i need a ground immmune

chrome narwhal
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But then watch out for magma storm Heatran.

chrome narwhal
crude bison
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oh shi

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forgot that bird

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perhaps i can run hazard stack

chrome narwhal
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Yeah, stall uses hazards to do damage.

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Hazard stack and toxic.

crude bison
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but there isn’t gholdengo OhNo

chrome narwhal
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Toxic is easy to spam on stall, but again, Excadrill is also a free switch a lot of the time.

chrome narwhal
crude bison
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i can’t really keep hazard up

chrome narwhal
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Some people use Sinsitcha as a blocker.

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I wouldn’t recommend Dirge because ground weakness.

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But again, taunt Heatran is really good against stall.

crude bison
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is stall fun in UU tho

chrome narwhal
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Like, they just tera fairy or grass or something to dodge their ground weakness, magma storm and taunt.

crude bison
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most concerned

chrome narwhal
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And they just beat half of the stall team.

chrome narwhal
crude bison
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so i need a av regen

chrome narwhal
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It’s a popular archetype.

crude bison
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i play that in OU

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but that was a double defog

chrome narwhal
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Then you’ll probably enjoy it.

crude bison
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it was fun due to the mons in OU

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but nor really with the style of the team

chrome narwhal
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Tbh, idk how stall people manage hazards, I never use stall so.

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They probably just boots spam idk.

crude bison
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i get it , stall is slow

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but not very steady

chrome narwhal
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I will say you’re obviously not finding taunt Heatran everywhere.

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But it is a set.

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Idk about AV regen mons on stall, but Slowking is a good counter against Heatran.

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Scald is enough to beat it most of the time.

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You could also try out sample stall teams instead of reading my yap. 🥀

crude bison
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oh right

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nvm

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there is that…(iykyk

chrome narwhal
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I forgot Toxapex existed tbh.

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Toxapex probably beats Heatran.

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Especially pre tera.

crude bison
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av pex🤑

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one of my favourite one

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but ground weakness…

chrome narwhal
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After tera, you can just click sludge bomb.

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Or toxic if they haven’t taunted.

chrome narwhal
crude bison
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yep

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i think i have a better picture now

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tysm

chrome narwhal
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Skarmory beats every ground in the tier imo.

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Like it’s so bad sometimes I run tera blast fire/electric on Exca.

crude bison
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i want to run a knock off absorb or a defogger

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ik there is mandi

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but is she worth using

chrome narwhal
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That’s something you might have to figure out yourself or just thru experience. Mandibuzz is the best defogger but it does defog your own hazards away.

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Mandibuzz is really easy to use.

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U-turn roost toxic foul play/knock.

crude bison
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oh yeah there is that

chrome narwhal
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Literally that’s all.

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Or defog over toxic.

crude bison
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cycleizar is the only thing left

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rapid spin with longevity

chrome narwhal
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Cycleizar isn’t someone I fw in UU.

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Just is way too fragile.

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But people use him well depending on their style.

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I just don’t understand him.

crude bison
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fast support

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but tinka is jsut better

chrome narwhal
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Eh.

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Tinkaton isn’t good on stall because of its lack of recovery and like.

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Stallish moves.

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It’s used for bulky offense and sometimes hyper offense.

crude bison
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uh so i run quagsire clodsire sinischa skamory toxapex

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what do i fill

chrome narwhal
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Want me to try to make you a stall team?

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Never have or will play stall in this tier but I have a decent understanding of it, since I play it too much.

crude bison
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i suck at team building

chrome narwhal
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I’ll brb. ✌️

crude bison
chrome narwhal
crude bison
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random battle just the better format(i main that before) 😦

chrome narwhal
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Aka, Mandibuzz or Skarm?

crude bison
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i prefer defog stall

chrome narwhal
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Alrighty.

crude bison
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yay thanks 🥰🥰

chrome narwhal
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Move sets can be adjusted and whatnot.

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Hazards aren’t your main way of damaging, but they’re there.

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Toxic spam and sand chip makes this team widdle down enemies.

crude bison
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how does av ttar work

chrome narwhal
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Sort of struggles with steels.

chrome narwhal
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Move set can be adjusted to be a mixed set.

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Could help with Skarm.

crude bison
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what does speed with ttar do and protect on blissey

chrome narwhal
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And protect on Blissey to help stall poison turns.

crude bison
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what does it out speed tho

chrome narwhal
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Can use heal bell though.

crude bison
chrome narwhal
crude bison
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to break through ghost type

chrome narwhal
crude bison
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like sinischa