#UU Rates

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open seal
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could go u-turn and tbolt over fb

foggy swallow
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what does thundurus knock off

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i think this could use a fezandipiti

open seal
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ttar

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litterally anything that wants to switch in

open seal
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:<

foggy swallow
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cant you just focus blast them

open seal
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focus miss

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simply knock and spikes

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I think it orginally had Gknot but that kinda sucks

foggy swallow
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i think

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tbolt is quite useful

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and nothing really switches into thund really

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i kinda feel like

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youd rather be killing shit

open seal
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fair

foggy swallow
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which are problems for this atm

open seal
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ic

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also

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Found that team

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it was gknot, volt, u-turn, knock

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Idk what I was cooking

foggy swallow
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thats like

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a sword and shield thundurus set

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wait what

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u had volt switch and u turn

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😭 😭 😭

open seal
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Yeah I have no idea

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I have like

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52 teams

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and only like 5 are useable

foggy swallow
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thats okay teambuilding is hard

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im having a think

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about what to do with this team

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the lati one

open seal
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ic

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Specs lati+Spikes is legit monstrus

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Makes specs gren look weak

foggy swallow
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call me crazy

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but im thinking about fezandipiti over torn and scarf hydreigon over latios

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i think that would be a better team but it does not have a specs latios so ill think some more

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also i think that soul dew is probably better than specs anyways

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ftr

open seal
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Hyd is

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Interesting,,,

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Fez looks cool tho

open seal
foggy swallow
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more flexible

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less reliant on prediction

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and recover is makes it more useful defensively

open seal
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ic ic

foggy swallow
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and its still super fucking strong

strange charm
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Fez does sound interestng

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Could it handle the trio of Weavile, Quaquaval and Lokix?

foggy swallow
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even if you just did fezandipiti over torn kept lati and did like

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Ogerpon (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 192 Atk / 100 Def / 216 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Spikes
  • U-turn
  • Synthesis
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this goofy ogerpon set

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maybe could be good

foggy swallow
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its mainly compressing a hydrapple and greninja check into one

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and lokix

strange charm
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Ah ok
Still it does sound pretty cool

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Fez can also use alluring voice to deal with nasty plot hydrapple
Or a quaquaval +1 speed

foggy swallow
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but taunt dipiti can help into the dirge mu a bit

open seal
strange charm
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@foggy swallow got a question about the fez taking on hydrappale, greninja and lokix
Why not tornadus-T
It might not handle greninja but it can run assault vest and knock off

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Fez can run calm mind to improve its attack and its high special defense
It can be great against other special attackers like Tornadus-T, Latios etc?

foggy swallow
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sometimes fezandipiti fits the team better

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torn has to be assault vest to beat like hydrapple and gren

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which means you need to run hazard removal

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which is hard to come by

strange charm
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Ah I see
So fez could free some slots

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Fez is kinda like a special wall isn't it

foggy swallow
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yeah

strange charm
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And not much great psychic types in UU
That's nice

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Forgot about Latios and Deoxys

strange charm
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Actually now I'm kind of curious about Fezandipiti
It could handle Lokix, Quaquval and Weavile
possible stall out Tornadus-T and Greninja
Taunt and u-turn from Heatran, Can heal with Recover
It does have to deal with Excadrill and Latios tho, and the other steel types

tribal laurel
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I feel u miss lefties a lot

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Esp since bulky drill likes to switch in a lot

tribal laurel
strange charm
lean monolith
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it’s viable

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good into sand

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and regen mons

strange charm
foggy swallow
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is it really though

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you need to run focus blast

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and the combo of excadrill av torn and dirge expecially kinda just

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doesnt let you do much

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its like kinda okay into hydrapple but fears specs grass move still, fears slowking twave

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i feel like it really doesnt abuse trace well

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thund t can sludge bomb

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and i dont think you can get moonblast sweeps as easily as you could in previous metagames

tribal laurel
tribal laurel
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Stuff like Doniphan is uu

strange charm
foggy swallow
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this + ttar is the backbone of standard sand

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which is super common

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and yeah

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torn exca is the like premier core of sv uu

strange charm
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Then again, in the worst case scenario that it gets banned

foggy swallow
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i feel like

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you are thinking too much of how these match up in a vacuum

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like dirge can tera to beat it

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and sand teams dont ngive duck very good in opportunities since tar runs twave

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and it has good ways to revenge it

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with sand drill keldeo vacuum wave

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hydrapple tera

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or whatever

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but yeah duck can sometimes

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have a field day into sand if the conditions are right

strange charm
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Hmmmmm

strange charm
foggy swallow
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im just saying on paper it goobs all these pokemon but in practise it will not happen that commonly

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yeah

strange charm
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Hm
That's fair

broken oar
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broken oar
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bro this little bee is so damn fast its to good

delicate nexus
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foggy swallow
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Sorry guys I'll rate these tomorrow or something I'm camping atm

delicate nexus
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np

delicate nexus
prisma girder
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Does anyone have a team with Regieleki for generation 8 UU?

pure jasper
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Wrong channel

pure jasper
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pure jasper
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Just gonna be spamming HOnfor a while

mossy kernel
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why protect gren

wanton grail
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mesprit or hatterene

hidden monolith
wanton grail
prisma girder
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Does anyone have a team with Regieleki for generation 8 UU?

pure jasper
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It’s a real set on the dex

silver lantern
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pure jasper
lean monolith
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your lucha is limber

pure jasper
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Oof

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Forgor

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Ok, can this work tho

mossy kernel
silver lantern
hidden monolith
mossy kernel
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delicate nexus
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deals better with sinistcha

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I'm thinking maybe Ditto can be an idea as well

delicate nexus
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thinking about salamence as well

delicate nexus
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ended up landing on calm mind coballion, looks better and doesn't make my team super weak to weavile, gonna test it later

foggy swallow
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okay guys

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rating

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im back

foggy swallow
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look bro i dont even know where to start with this

foggy swallow
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to start off with comfey is really a hyper offense mon

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its not that great on other styles

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its like a pretty all in type of mon and a huge tera hog

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hard to get switchin opportunities too

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i like the synergy between lokix thund and rotom

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i think

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donphan is kinda bad and you probably want to make it into a rapid spin quaquaval

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and drop the rotom

foggy swallow
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if you want to keep the pivoting of rotom you can go with aqua step u turn rapid spin roost

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otherwise close combat knock off and triple axel if you really hate hydrapple are your options

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in rotoms place id probably do an assault vest tornadus

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this pairs well with rapid spin quaq and patches up some holes you know

delicate nexus
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makes sense

foggy swallow
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umm also i like the spikes idea

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for a volt turn type thing

delicate nexus
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I did like Comfey as anti lokix and gren tech

foggy swallow
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and it needs stealth rock somewhere

delicate nexus
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but lokix does it as well I guess, just needs something to pivot on

delicate nexus
foggy swallow
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im feeling like clodsire is a bit passive for the style right

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so i think

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perhaps ogerpon grass + arcanine hisui could be good lasts?

delicate nexus
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instead of comfey and clod I'm guessing?

foggy swallow
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yeah

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like torn thund oger harc quaq kix

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heatran is probably a better option than harc actually

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thinking about it

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since latios seemed annoying with harc

delicate nexus
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yeah

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heatran could do the rocks, or do I not want it for that role?

foggy swallow
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yeah youd want rocks tran

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lmk if you have questions about the sets

delicate nexus
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aight

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thx

foggy swallow
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and maybe send it when its done so i can have a check

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no worries

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probably want taunt heatran if you are struggling with sinistcha i wanna say

delicate nexus
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makes sense, the team is quite better at dealing with it now

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in the one I sent, lokix was the best at hitting it

foggy swallow
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since its a pretty bulky mon you might want to just bulk it out and give it like

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red card??

pure jasper
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Hm… I was thinking rocky helmet but sure

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Maybe webs is better for a team like this

foggy swallow
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i think lucha sucks

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unless its on psy terrain

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its a massive tera hog on psy terrain anyway

foggy swallow
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also i think excadrill is probably not the steel type for this team

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i think you might want like

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revavroom since you have a lokix and gren to force tera fairies

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and lokix can beat skarmory for vroom

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you probably still want temper flare though since

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tera steel rotom is very common as an answer

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i think if you want a funny fighting type tera hog sweeper

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do lilligant hisui or slither wing instead

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slither wing revavroom has good synergy

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you probably want a polteagiest since this is hazard stack btw

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id do that in place of either quaquaval or greninja

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or keep both and put one in the lucha slot if you want

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but like hisui lilligant hazard stack sounds kinda heat

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ho

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are you happy with me @tribal laurel

foggy swallow
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but you have double stealth rock

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and i think that heatran set is kinda not it right

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you dont want your heatran to be a grass type

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then it doesnt check shit

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id make it a bit bulkiier and also do like will o wisp taunt or dragon pulse or something in the terablast slot

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get rid of rocks drill aswell by the way

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like in my opinion

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the secret to uu

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is that if you have to run rocks excadrill

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you should rebuild your team

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sd all day

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make it offensive too

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make heatran tera fairy for sure too

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this team is worried about weavile

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probably water tera hydrapple aswell

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and water/fairy on zarude since poison isnt tooo useful anymore

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probably water

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water zarude is really good in my opinion right now

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but people dont run it fsr

delicate nexus
foggy swallow
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and its like almost mandatory with a sd lokix

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buttt i can try

foggy swallow
delicate nexus
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I was thinking so too yeah

pure jasper
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Tysm

tribal laurel
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Uu cord just doesn't know

foggy swallow
pure jasper
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Okies

foggy swallow
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(0$ an hour)

foggy swallow
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hydreigon is a good idea i like that pairing

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i dont think that you want encore on a more bulky maushold team

silver lantern
foggy swallow
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id probably go u turn

tribal laurel
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It looks like a bulk structure a bit with Doniphan, rotom w and clod

foggy swallow
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hl i just gave them like a essay on their team

tribal laurel
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But it also has lo comfey whi h is odd

foggy swallow
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already

tribal laurel
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Well I don't see it

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This requires another essay

foggy swallow
tribal laurel
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Thundy t and rotom w is asking for bad clod problems

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A d zarude is a pain

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I'd prob make comfy a cobalkon so u don't get torn one by a zarude or ogerpin

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I'd also likely either drop thundy t or rotom w. As with one of them you are overlapping less

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Tho I like thundy t and lokix so I feel dropping rotom for quaq and getting smth like ur own scarf zarude can likely help

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Maybe a scarf Shao or another scarfer so ur not reliant on kix for every form of spedd

foggy swallow
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buddy you are wasting your effort i think

delicate nexus
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some changes have been amde already, but I won't say no to more ideas

foggy swallow
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probably use more viable pokemon

foggy swallow
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let me see if i can find it

tribal laurel
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But it's made by bfm

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And I do remember mespirit being ranked in current gen

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At some point as a result of this

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Is this good In tour? Ur likely gambling on smth u don't want to

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Is this as viable as tr gets? Likely

foggy swallow
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@prisma girder

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this teams very out there but its good

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try copying it from the replay if you like

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i dont have the paste unfortunately

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ohhh its trick room

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wait ngl im stupid and just looked at it and decided it was bad before having a closer look

foggy swallow
tribal laurel
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found the team @foggy swallow

foggy swallow
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oh thanks

tribal laurel
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i remember esta i think talking about some form of t spike + thunder cage team

foggy swallow
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well there you go bebo

foggy swallow
tribal laurel
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i scoured everything idk if esta act used it

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i have no idea where to look

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cuz idk when it dropped

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sooo, QOB, if you rate everyone then wdyt of this https://pokepast.es/48f38efd5dc695d8 . Either way unsure if quaq spinner is better than exca and try to work around that instead of stacking 2 mons weak to fighting, drill, and hate water types

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foggy swallow
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oh cool

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i like synergy bgetween deoxys and keldeo

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thats cool

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this team seems quite solid hl

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i think you should be

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rock slide excadrill probably

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and also be more offensive

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and perhaps like tera electric torn

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im just scared about thundurus right

tribal laurel
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i act had a thought of tera dragon torn

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covers 2 things

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  1. water moves
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more specifically quaq aqua step + covers smth like paralysis

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  1. dragon is an intersting def typing
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btw why rock slide drill?

foggy swallow
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thundurus

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thats the only reason

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look you can make the judgement call to keep it iron head

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i might just be being paranoid

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about that matchup

tribal laurel
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i thought about opposing zarude, sinistcha, and hydrapple

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but they sound painful

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hmm maybe

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id need to run more tetss

foggy swallow
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thats your call on that one

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team seems solid

tribal laurel
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either way about the eleki + t spikes i heard be talked about

foggy swallow
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i like the sound of dragon torn kinda

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but it not resisting greninja ice beam is like

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kinda annoying

tribal laurel
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yeah so this is where i heard it from

tribal laurel
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i guess ice beam doe slook scary

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but tera elec takes a crap ton from surf no?

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ill run a couple of tests with tera elec

foggy swallow
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atleast in current ss uu

tribal laurel
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its ranked in c-

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idk about modern SS UU

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id have to ask someone who is

foggy swallow
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its like

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35

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i think

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252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Surf vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Assault Vest Tera Electric Tornadus-Therian: 110-133 (30.3 - 36.7%) -- 54.7% chance to 3HKO

tribal laurel
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hmm alr then

foggy swallow
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+1 252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Surf vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Assault Vest Tera Electric Tornadus-Therian: 165-196 (45.5 - 54.1%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO

tribal laurel
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more scared about aqua step tho

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but i guess at +1 deo-s can come in and clap it

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and keldeo with vacuum wave can threatn it

foggy swallow
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i think quaquaval will probably triple axel your torn anyway

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the sd ones run that alot

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u have revenging options and tera options into it

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water or electric on this team though

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is best i reckon

mossy kernel
foggy swallow
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ngl im not really sure where to go with your team

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i just rated like 5 things im like burnt out of rating for the moment

mossy kernel
foggy swallow
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gotcha

broken oar
prisma girder
foggy swallow
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h>l found the paste for the team

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just incase you didnt see

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scroll down a little from that replay @prisma girder

leaden hound
regal stag
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if this is for doubles rather than UU, then this is the wrong channel

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and even for doubles this team is flawed

leaden hound
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My bad, I should've looked more on the channels and team

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I'll do some editing

frail burrow
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foggy swallow
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I'll rate this when I get gome

foggy swallow
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i quite like the latios weavile pairing

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id consider running some funky weavile set like terablast ground so you can lure steels on this sincce you have a lati

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id probably make lati recover flip turn luster draco with soul dew

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i dont really like specs

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it restricts you alot and the power boost is not that relavent

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im afraid the cornerstone probably wont be able to fit here

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it provides zero defensive utlitiy

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i reckon

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you should swap cornerstone for a spdef rotom wash

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make tinkaton stealth rock over encore

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and make excadrill into zarude

dapper jackal
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Any advice here? I thinkI cooked, if not love to hear feedback

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foggy swallow
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Yeah I'll get to this when I get home

heavy wyvern
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Just wanted to say thanks for rating all of the teams

cobalt yacht
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this isnt really a proper compeditive team, its just pokemon i like, and i would appreciate advice on how to improve it while keeping the pokemon. Thanks

foggy swallow
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yeah this isnt even uu legal

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probably dont post your team in the team rating channel if your goal isnt for it to be competitively viable

foggy swallow
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i normally keep it to 2 maximum

dapper jackal
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The idea is if you hit hard enough you don't need to predict as much, even a resisted hit is going to do a big chunk

foggy swallow
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the teams quite slow i reckon

foggy swallow
dapper jackal
dapper jackal
foggy swallow
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also i think you should have some speed on your mons

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like no speed torn is super bad

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i also think torn should probably be av

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and tera steel

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hydrapple should probably have some speed and tera steel or fairy

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exca should be tera ghost

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whats psychic on torn for?

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this is a fine team though if you just change the teras and put some speed on torn

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192+ speed

dapper jackal
foggy swallow
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that wont do shit to pex

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put knock off on instead

dapper jackal
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Sounds good, thanks so much for the advice

foggy swallow
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no worries

cobalt yacht
oak basin
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Not sure this is the right place, but I can't figure out what pokemon to have for my #6

Lokix @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Tinted Lens
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • U-turn
  • First Impression
  • Knock Off
  • Leech Life

Skeledirge (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Torch Song
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Shadow Ball
  • Slack Off

Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Thunderbolt
  • Recover
  • Draco Meteor
  • Luster Purge

Clodsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Poison Jab
  • Recover
  • Curse

Tyranitar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sand Stream
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Atk / 58 Def
Adamant Nature

  • Knock Off
  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge
  • Focus Punch
tribal laurel
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Personally some sets feel odd like lefties dirge, max def curse clod, av tar (tho I've seen use of it a bit)

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Without exca here I think exca would maybe work but then a lot of weaknesses pop up like an opposing exca weakness

foggy swallow
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this channel is for finished teams i think

tribal laurel
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No idea

mossy kernel
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ye

ember zinc
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can i do doubles uu?

tribal laurel
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i dont see doubles uu but this is sv uu

frail burrow
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tribal laurel
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  1. lack of a good exca switch in. I would likely not use tinkaton on a team that gives such free entry and struggles with exca. one of my main gripes with tink is this.

  2. av azu is really meh, its struggling to switch in on hazards and with skarm just keeping them up you are never really gonna take good advantage of this

  3. You really wanna have some slow pivots for h-arc to come in. This feels like an offensive structure that lacks the stuff for it

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sooo

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one suggestion is maybe phys def slowking > azu, this gives you a better switch in into most exca and can allow you to pivot h-arc in slowly

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another suggestion is running some form of taunt torn-t over tinknaton maybe, while lokix and h-arc can cover offense well they thud into fat

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so taunt torn t can really send a stall team packing if playd well

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i wanna also comment on soul dew > choice specs, this makes it easieer to play around and not have to 50/50 ur way through stuff like fez + slowking

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so

def slowking > av azu
soul dew latios > choice specs latios
taunt torn-t > tinkaton

in my opinion would be positive changes

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@frail burrow

frail burrow
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what exact torn set should i run? hdb and taunt over what?

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@tribal laurel

tribal laurel
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hdb and taunt is either focus or knock

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tribal laurel
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mandi as sole removal with CB kix is asking for dire trouble esp since mons like heatran really hate spikes

fastest mon being keld is troublesome as you can really struggle to apply pressure esp against smth like latios who can just dunk on ur team. I find mandi hard to work around, you can make mandi work but in a meta with taunt torn-t, coba, tinkaton, and tera poisons i feel u turn is jus tbetter

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So my thoughts on it are

u-turn > toxic on mandi
maybe taunt torn-t > tink as i feel keld being fastest mon kinda sucks. I was also thinking potential fez > mandibuzz as well.
Boots kix
Flame body tran

copper hornet
jolly berry
violet mist
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My team got wiped somehow and I couldn’t remember all of it so it is in SHAMBLES but here it is anyway https://pokepast.es/e0b9bd0794396b2c
ttar, Scizor and excadrill were definitely on it and cyclizar definitely wasn’t, not sure about the others

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no ground immune is super rough, the exca MU is is dire. Also a lot of sets are all over the place like scizor, tar, and exca being odd

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# jolly berry I may or may not have burnt the kitchen Had no chance to test it yet as the bot ...

the team looks workable but i feel the defensive backbone is non existant. Lokix comes in and you are sacking a mon basically, or maybe zarude and u gotta trade ur own zarude for it. It feels you are trying to out offense a team with basically nothing to lean back on.

I would make cornerstone a rotom-w and meta a pickpocket tinnk as this allows u to be more reslient. And i think torn-t > Sciz might be a change i like as this gives you some defensive presence or maybe zapdos-g as a scarfer here

If you wanna keep sciz you can make it boots but you have an annoying dirge MU i feel like esp vs a tera one

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# copper hornet Scarf Shao felt crazy on its sample so here I am https://pokepast.es/8308aab46c6...

I think t wave is better on slowking as this preps you against stuff like gren better esp since BB gren kinda runs you over here, esp since you have nothing for it

I would maybe make skarms rocks and give gren spikes as this allows you to keep rocks and allow to set spikes up to pressure stuff like tink more with dark pulse and smack stuff like zarude much more with surf

This also looks annoying into hydrapple but that is more so nitpicky as i feel slowking gives way to much entry to a NP hydrapple and depending ont he tera it can run circles and its bukly enough to force trades

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oop I do get owned by BB Gren, overlooked Twave with such a fast core

will do the changes!

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violet mist
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I literally just got insulted

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lol

abstract basin
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then don’t ask for help because it’s true

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you have no ground resist making the team weak to excadril

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ur zor is max hp sd 3a

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ur tar is running outrage and avalanche

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and crunch > knock

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and that’s just the first 2 mons

tribal laurel
# violet mist I literally just got insulted

trying to say how the team would be better would likely require restructing the team but fine

  • the ev's, set, and moves are all over the place. A more sp. def ttar set in the analysis would likely suit this just fine
  • Scizor is often not ran on such teams because it is a steel that doesnt do much to help here esp to deal with the checks that threatening exca
  • CB exca is very bad, you are locked and you are just gonna be thudding into resists quite often, you want SD to really help you
  • BD azu isnt very good, its weairng itself down by sand and additional chip and often will just result in itself being way to weak, a defensive pokemon like rotom-w is much better
  • Clodsire has no recover which means ist just gonna die, either way this team is to fast paced for clodsire
  • Idk what cyclizar is trying to do
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Yeah I kinda forgot that clod learns recover

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Cyclizar was originally for shed tail but when I realised that can only be used in Ubers it kinda just fell apart

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that is a dire exca MU. I think draco + tbolt latios is way out of date and just not very good anymore esp when there are other forms of countermeasures.

I think tink on a team that cant really let exca come i n often isnt very good... you alr have stealth rock coba so this can be smth like a slowking which gives u a heatran switch that isnt latios

I think sandy shocks is also odd (its wlaled by hydrapple which is painful). SO likely changing it to either be a booster tera ice set or maybe just boots tera ice is better. Esp since this team doesnt like giving turns to a mon like latios, or hydrapple

I think scarf zarude is outdated, u can maybe keep it but would make it tealpon instead as scarf zarue just is very annoyed by skarm, fez, and often is a u turn bot

Sooo

soul dew latios > CM tbolt latios
Slowking or maybe smth else > Tink
Ice beam > Shuriken allows u to hit torn t harder and threaten hydrapple or clodsire more easily
Tealpon > Scarf zarude

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just got into pokemon again but this time battling

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ive only really done this for a few days so any recommendations or fixes for my UU team?

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and also is there any way could i improve my team building and their coordination?

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# twilit prawn https://pokepast.es/778a6e7653c2fcc6

none of the moves correlate with eachother

Physical moves on specs?

Scarf Sandstorm?

Choice band and Swords Dance?

The choices of mons aren’t bad, and I don’t want to be mean, but you need to start from scratch with this

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K

tribal laurel
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ogerpon teal

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pure grass mon

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👍

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on such a team i feel focus blast keld is better @chrome narwhal , i also feel ur very weak to rotom-w with all members getting farmed by it. I would use rotom-w, maybe latios, or some form of deternent against it

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I think heatran > tink as it helps the skarm MU which is also annoying

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i think weavile doesnt fit, ur stacking 3 fighting weaknesses

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i dont really like the sash excadrill

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it should be balloon or something

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i reckon the weavile slot should be a hydrapple and the tink should be a heatran

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this is so you dont lose to excadrill and heatran is just a bit less passive than tink for a sand team

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i also dunno about dd tar, i heard it might be usable and esp with the boot of quaq it might have merit

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not a team rate but is ability shield rotom just a stupid gimmick or a viable strategy

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eternal pike
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Yeah but is it really worth it over longevity

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With lefties

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Or a helmet

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If its really for one mon i think its a dumb gimmick and i just wanna verify that

tribal laurel
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also weavile

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heatran, gren, scizor... u have to make sure u arent just getting kncoekd in the exca mu

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u generally force exca out

eternal pike
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I see u discuss the exca MU so much

tribal laurel
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exca generally can run away with games

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esp without skarm

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and u def dont want to be one flinch away or 50/50 a tera

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sd drill is still scary

eternal pike
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Exca to me feels like a two turn tony

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Sometimes it can win but

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Other times it hits the field and just falls over

tribal laurel
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eh

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idk how often that happens

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u need a skarm to really make it flop

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even then stuff like tera ghost and +2 iron head flinches can really brute force it

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and skram isnt the worst thing to wear down

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thoughts on an azumarill team? please feel free to provide feedback

open seal
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azu kinda sucks

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if i was to use it id probs go drum on ho or like av/boots?

silent lynx
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Or...which is better? With av or drum?

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Hyper offense is my style too but idk which fits best

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assuming drums azu, which team member would help it?

open seal
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hazards

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revaroom

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open seal
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and run sg

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very strong ho mon

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this is what im thinking rn

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excadrill helps with poison types, provide SR and rapid spin, thundurus deal with bulky water, and if god forbid excadrill goes down, becomes electric magnet

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heatran deals with grass and ESPECIALLY lokix

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latios is strong pivot and speed control overall with choice scarf, and coballion debuffs with thunder wave and has rocky helmet

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might switch the hazards around so maybe one of them can do spikes

open seal
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not ho…

silent lynx
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fair...

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how do i make this into HO?

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sobbing

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i'll try this, thx ^^

open seal
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ofc

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bd does have its merits

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its my fav rogue boi

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it’s definetly worse than it was at the beginning at the gen

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in the times we had to use ballon to cope with chomp

open seal
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then it +2 steel iron head through

open seal
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i tried using boots…

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it’s

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a pokemon

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on paper it’s not bad

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bulkyish water with knock and prio

lean monolith
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i’d rather use boots keldeo

open seal
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but it’s just piss weak with no boost

open seal
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that’s what i realized

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speed and flip turn are more important

open seal
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ye

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av is

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useable

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but broken spikes…

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it’s like

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fine

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because it can do a lot better into torn

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and lati

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and opposing keld

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destroys gren

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unless it’s gunk (fake)

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i remember @open seal telling me belly drum might be better for azumarill, but that kinda limits its ability to switch in and out in a less HO playstyle, i was wondering if its better to keep it as a choiced wallbreaker or make it a belly drum with this setup?

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you don’t really switch in and out with ho 😭

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it’s probs best as cb here but it’s kinda

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meh

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open seal
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nuh

abstract basin
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looks like offense to me

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not hyper offense

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band azu scarf lati no presence of a suicide lead defensive tran

silent lynx
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Do i need to change some of yhe members? Add suicide lead?

I meant it to do alot of damage and switch to defensive options when possible, but smth tells me these mons arent meant to tank much save for tran

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even azumarill is kinda ehhh

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maybe assault vest would be better? idk...

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So I had an idea for UU on using eviolite misdreavus as a pseudo exca check with will o wisp and hex, since this thing can be surprisingly bulky and is immune to spin (and earthquake if its the sand mu)

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I think cobalion works well as a knock absorber for the team and ogerpon checks the mold breaker exca

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any suggestions for mons that would round this team out?

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thundurus looks great here too

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tribal laurel
# silent lynx Remade this offense azu team, feedback would be appreciated! https://pokepast.es...

ok this team is somewhat workable but 1. I dont like non focus thundy-t
2. with 2 priority users i may move away from scarf latios as it feels overkill
3. ur defense against things such as trailblaze zarude isnt the best and u def can get smoked by trialblaze -> SD -> tera SD -> going ham

A suggestion i have is to maybe shift from lokix -> Rotom-W as this gives you a water resist that doesnt feel like it crimbles quickly

and Focus on THundy-T

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also dual stabs sd spiky oger is kinda dix

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tbh spiky is only rlly good on ho

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but yeah half of this team gets shit on by cobal

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you have 0 weav awnser outside of kix

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opposing oger-c looks spooky

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weav+polt spikes 6-0s

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you also have no real breaker

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kix ig?

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not even pick pocket tink

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also if tink dies

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you just kinda lose to every dark type+tera

silent lynx
open seal
tribal laurel
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but yes i guess heat wave can work on torn t

open seal
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yeah esp since drill can run over the team if it gets free turns vs thundy-t

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nad a lot of them try to spin vs it

cinder osprey
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so what you’re saying is
swap exca for cobal
use pickpocket tink with air balloon
use stomping on oger

open seal
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something like that

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that looks way more solid

silent lynx
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Should i still change lokix to rotom tho? I didnt encounter a lot of zarude, 2 at max between yesrerday and today

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Of the uu mons i find myself having a lot of trouble with ogerpon c, gastrodon, opposing excadrill and heatrans

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And sometimes this kind of thing happens and idfk what im doing wrong, the ladder just threw me against people way more skilled than me

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I feel like i only win against ppl less skilled than me, as in, ppl who dont rlly know the basics of competetive and is still making a lot of mistakes

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Like this for example

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This is the team i used, how do i improve it?

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Like this, i was dojng fine the first few rounds but got grinded down

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idk what abt it

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but it just

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feels bad

heavy wyvern
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I mean they have an AV torn, Pon, and boots-less Keld with no removal

open seal
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bro it’s like

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1 am

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😭

north lotus
open seal
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?

tribal laurel
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choice scarf ogerpon feels weird at best

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it feels like "why do this"

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Id replace draco on drei with t wave

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rhyperior feels weird to... its not common

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its very outdated it feels like esp into a meta with rotom-w, skarm, and knock everywhere

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and no one to really check

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the skarm and ogerpon def need changing

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boots ogerpon and spikes skarmory > ID

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is def what i would do here

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@cinder osprey

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I have a p successful time with this tean @open seal suggested me a while ago, its rlly good but im having some trouble wirh opposing lokix and stuff like bulky pokemon such as toxapex, any suggestions?

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dont like u-turn cornerstone on such a team, same with boots kix. I would make it SD Corner with maybe trailblaze/superpower last or maybe spiky shield for the abudance of lokix that u are gonna see

Azu should also be BD instead, with quaq gone its an ok mon

I dont like comfey, ithink its a huge tera hog and a big waste. Its fine if u wanna keep it

SD lokix puts a lot more pressure

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I think the sets are super odd but it looks ok...

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although u kinda get clapped by any ground type...

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which is exca and with comfey around this isnt super fun

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act with 1 special attacker ur gonna have problems

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azu -> manaphy

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is a good choice

silent lynx
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Oh...oh wait so thats why i was having so much trouble with lokix

silent lynx
tribal laurel
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hmmm maybe have a flame charge dirge somewhere

silent lynx
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Dirge?

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Why?

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Also this is hyper offense no?

tribal laurel
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yes

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some dirge are HO

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but uh double dance thundy-t maybe

silent lynx
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Ok so which do i drop?

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Azu stays, so what remains?

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Deoxys im assuming for hazards

silent lynx
cinder osprey
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agility nplot

silent lynx
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Thundy keeps dying ehenever i try to set up tho

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A lot of the time i have issues with ppl stopping my sweep due to priority, like with lokix

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So idk how helpful smth like thundy is gonna be

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I modified the team based on tbe advice, but im not sure what to do with the skeledirge, is this moveset ok?

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I feel like im doing worse with this comp

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Also how exactly do u use lokix with swords dance? Im very used to using first impression above all else

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focus blast > sludge bomb as it helps with steels and general grounds like exca. BD azu > AV azu... uh not really, unsure what the spread is rn

I think swapping dirge fo rsmth else since idk the flame charge spread. I think u can replace it with idk revavroom or maybe iron jugulis

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also sd > stomping on cornerstone

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I see

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That will make every pokemon a setup sweeper no?

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Also belly drum sweeper is a bit predictable in my experience

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I miss focus blast twice in a row

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This feels rlly unreliable

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Is there other alternatives to thundy? Or is smth like grass knot acceptable?

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Cuz im not running smth that has what feels like 50% accuracy

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This is how i play my team, its why i have comfey cuz sometimes enemy sweeps is hard to stop and priority is what helps me stop it

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Or just in general prevent enemy from setting up

It does hit a wall against any steel, poison and fire type, which js why revavroom is therr initially

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But idk how else to improve the team, so far the swords dance on ogerpon hasnt done anything yet, belly drum is good i guess but thats only if the enemy has no grass type

My azu was initially only meant to cripple enemy team through surprise factor and come in and out because it has either assault vest or leftovers

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Im so confused with these new changes, thundurus is neat yeah but its rlly damn frail and not fast enough

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Am i doing smth wrong ffs

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I change my team and suddenly i cant win any rounds

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Thundurus-Therian @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 132 HP / 176 SpA / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Agility
  • Thunderbolt
  • Nasty Plot
  • Focus Blast
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here the double dance thundy-t spread btw

silent lynx
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I did tinker with thundurus but i cant seem to make it work

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Its too frail like i said, but i'll try that in a bit

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In the meantime, wb tornadus?

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Its faster and bulkier

open seal
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wb?

silent lynx
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What about

open seal
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oh

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no

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:3

silent lynx
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Why?

open seal
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you think missing fb is bad

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have fun hitting cane

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and fb

silent lynx
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Bleakwind storm

open seal
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still 80%

silent lynx
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Im not running hurricane-

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Yeah but its not 70%

open seal
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having no 100% acc moves

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sucks

silent lynx
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I'll try that then

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This is the team i used rn

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Wait fehk-

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Didnt mean to alert the others

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I still think azu is too predictable and frail tk use belly drum

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Skeledirge @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 8 SpD / 248 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Torch Song
  • Alluring Voice
  • Flame Charge
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this is dirge spread btw

silent lynx
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No slack off?

open seal
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it’s not meant to be bulky

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coverage is more important

silent lynx
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But its not fast either

open seal
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flame charge

silent lynx
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U need 2 flame charge to outspeed faster mons no?

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Wont that make u vulnerable?

open seal
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Thats why i've been using av

open seal
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idt av is good on ho

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but if it works

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shrug

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I might try smth else bur idk...

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Choice band is just too restrictive

silent lynx
open seal
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ye it looks fine

silent lynx
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If i wanna use skeledirge which should i replace?

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Maybe comfey?

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Ckmfey is neat but it gets walled hard by revavroom and heatran

open seal
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no?

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tb ground

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if they have balloon

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just pop it before hand

silent lynx
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Well sometimes i already terra smth else

open seal
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then don’t try and sweep with comfeee

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btw ive seen taunt being dropped

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idt we have hazard removal so people drop taunt on their deo s

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psycho boost allows u to snipe stuff

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i would say CM enamorus > comfey as this allows u to just not die right away

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to zarude

tribal laurel
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better off using smth else

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its a huge tera hog

silent lynx
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some ppl suggest i drop revavroom

gonna use those to add excadrill

silent lynx
tribal laurel
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comfey is very weak priority

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reva is good on ho

tribal laurel
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its very good at pressuring stuff

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exca is kinda meh

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on ho

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ive seen it be used

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not convinced tho

silent lynx
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So im confused cuz im receiving ehat feels like contradictory advice

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I agree that exca is kinda underwhelming in ho

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I will use reva again, but idk what to fill for the last spot

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Thisbis what i had, not sure what to replace comfey with

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Scarf latios?

tribal laurel
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why is torn defensive

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not convinced by non taunt comfey

silent lynx
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Why do u need taunt on comfey?

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The reason comfey is so useful to me is it has 2 variety of priority type

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open seal
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and like

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giga is bad

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ig

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Rilla

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gren is fast

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Hi everyone sorry to bother y’all, but can someone guide me or help me with making a UU team based around Volcanion ?? I would really appreciate it thank you

open seal
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volc is kinda

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mid

ancient lotus
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I know 😢 but he’s my favorite mythical and I like more Pokémon in the UU tier which is why I want to make a team around it

open seal
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i see

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teir shifts make things funky

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but its probs best as a bulky bruiser type mon

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oh ffs

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havent built with meow yet but this looks

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ok

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might be worth dropping exca and and going boots torn

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idrk

ancient lotus
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Btw thank you I love the team

open seal
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i thought hippo

ancient lotus
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I was thinking if you wanted to drop drill maybe adding Hydrapple

open seal
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and then i realized

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that hippo without drill is ass

open seal
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open seal
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your ground options are

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Clod

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still has the same issues as drill if not more

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or Donphan

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(bad)

ancient lotus
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Since ground options are bad how about keeping drill and replacing meow with hydrapple

open seal
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nuh

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you lose speed control

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and spikes

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spikes are broken

ancient lotus
open seal
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esp on a team with volc

ancient lotus
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Instead of Volcanion how would you do a Deoxys team but not spikes

open seal
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where it can just mash steam for burns

ancient lotus
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A nasty plot set

open seal
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np deo is kinda

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eh

ancient lotus
open seal
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mixed lo is what is more often going to get value

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or boots

ancient lotus
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Ok how about a Deoxys lo team?? What do you recommend?? I know I wanna put torn on there

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And Hydrapple

open seal
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ye

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torn apple is a solid core

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probs a scarfer well you have deo so mayb not

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a bulky pivot guy

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rocks

silent lynx
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Guys, whats a common spike stack core?

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Someone mentioned av azu might work in that kind of team i wanna know what fits with it

open seal
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Torn+Apple+Rocks Guy+Bulky Water+Spiker+Speed control

tribal laurel
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U kinda smack everything and u just need to make sure not to give exca free turn

silent lynx
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Alrighty, thx guys

silent lynx
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silent lynx
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this is a bulky balance spikestack team im making, i want to put azumarill as one of the pokemon but i havent tested it yet, anything else im missing?

open seal
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iron press skarm is dog shit

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boots cobal is bad

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why do you have two spikes mons

abstract basin
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what

open seal
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flower trick meow is kinda bad

abstract basin
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explain why iron press is dog shit

open seal
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ghost type

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._.

abstract basin
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no shit

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but everything else

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that’s why it’s used

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it’s still good

open seal
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tera ghost drill is stupid common

abstract basin
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and you just spike on the ghost type

open seal
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no the fuck it isn’t

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😭

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tera ghost drill

abstract basin
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ur telling me iron press skarm has never been good

open seal
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._.

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no

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i’m saying it’s bad in current uu

abstract basin
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bro said uwu

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it’s bad in uu because of its mu vs tera drill?

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just run helmet

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and then it punishes the spin

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and you just spike at that point

open seal
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it’s also dog shit into torn

abstract basin
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what’s torn hitting it with

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and it can’t be good into everything

open seal
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apple

open seal
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the point is

abstract basin
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it still gets that?

open seal
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that you get more value out of a phasing move

open seal
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yes

abstract basin
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which is why i’m asking and not arguing

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but it can’t be good into everything then it would be broken

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should phasing move be used on 100% of teams

open seal
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on hstack yes

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i was about to look through the uu mons to see what iron press skarm is bad into

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but ps died

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so

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yay

abstract basin
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womp womp

open seal
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it’s back now

abstract basin
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but it’s probably like everything except for ghosts torn thundy clod comfey and haze pex

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it gets haze still right

open seal
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slowking

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also yes

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lati

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apple

abstract basin
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it outspeeds apple

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and that body press isn’t feeling good

open seal
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tera fairy

abstract basin
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no way it is

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oh does it now

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well i’ll be

open seal
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._.

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k

abstract basin
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wow there is quite a fighting weakness in the tier

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just give your fighting type knock and it’s running circles

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what switches into conk

open seal
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nothing lmfao

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conk is broken

abstract basin
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looks like it

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what switches into mixed gren

cinder osprey
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would trick meow be a funny way to deal with kix

open seal
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also torn

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rotom-w

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zarude

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pex

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keld

cinder osprey
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mixed gren is absolute dogwater who thought of that

open seal
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💀

cinder osprey
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wow
never cook again

silent lynx
silent lynx
silent lynx
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also keep in mind this is meant to be a bulky balance spike stack team, its why i dont run heatran

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or is sandy shocks better than cobal?

silent lynx
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should i replace meow with torn?

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its a pivot with knock off and fast enough?

silent lynx
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so smth liek this? idk if there's any viable stealth rock setter in uu

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tornadus feels like it opens up a lot of weaknesses

open seal
silent lynx
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Ok whats wrong >_<

silent lynx
open seal
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idk

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i just wanted to haha

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sorry gang

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well

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you did something wrong

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i just

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don’t have the energy to explain

silent lynx
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Is it a big wrong?

open seal
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i’m tired of sugar coating it

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azu is ass

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belly drum is useable

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but av is just bad

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the rest of the team is hugely flawed in its own right

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but azu is bad and if you keep using it your team will never be optimal

silent lynx
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Ok...what is the bad part for the rest of the team?

open seal
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not enough energy

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maybe tmrw

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too sleepy

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it’s 2 am

silent lynx
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Gotcha

tribal laurel
# silent lynx https://pokepast.es/33e1a882126b5310

boots coba is just kinda not what it wants to do.... it gets mroe from lefties or helmet, its just what does boots do against non skarm / HO mu's?

Iron press skarm is just kinda meh now, run WW on it for anti setup as iron press into rotom-w or slowking is not fun. Brave bird is better esp into stuff like hydrapple, tera fairy zarude, fez, latios, etc

Azu feels weird, av hasnt been ood in a while and on a team with no removal it feels even worse, idk what is the goal here

This team really struggles into torn-t and stuff like fez bullying ur coba, sinistcha, and skarm, latios also clicks buttons and claims victims

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the team feels like it doesnt have much synergy

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with a lot of boots mons u kinda get stomped by knock off + hazards

fast lichen
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what’re are some good defogers?

open seal
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Mandibuzz

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Gweez is ok

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Zor Conk and Lucha are horrible at fogging

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Talon is

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a pokemon

tribal laurel
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ur best bet is to removal with drill

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mandi can remove but good god its annnoying to support

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it "beats" exca but none of our rockers really are mons who can really play the long game out